Comments on: Pat Buchanan: Knave and Fool http://pjmedia.com/blog/pat-buchanan-knave-and-fool/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:45:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: tiger tim http://pjmedia.com/blog/pat-buchanan-knave-and-fool/#comment-545957 tiger tim Sun, 30 May 2010 02:03:27 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=65922#comment-545957 --Haven't ANY of you caught on to what Buchanan's 'pacifist revsionism' is REALLY about? FACT IS 'Populist/America Firster/Right Winger' Pat is very, very much acting the 'Conservative' frontman, blindside and apologist for our disastrous, decades long biz-nihilist sellout and suck-up to history's --MOST-- awesomely genocidal regime -bar none! --ACROSS the Pacific. In this, he's reading from exactly the same playbook as the lowest mercenary sleaze in our PC franchise slum Hollywood and media. "The Americans came just like a whore, all dressed up and knocking at our back door--" -Chou En Lai Nixon/MAO Summit ---PAT was on board! ---and NEVER stepped off! MEANWHILE, millions continue to suffer and die in SILENCE; the staggeringly vast 'peacetime' genocide done decades AFTER WWII in our 'fave' mass market regime continues to be avoided; and the 60th Anniversary of the astoundingly relevant ---indeed, STILL unfolding, KOREAN WAR is once again 'mysteriously overlooked' by one and all. -NEED WE SAY MORE? –Haven’t ANY of you caught on to what Buchanan’s ‘pacifist revsionism’
is REALLY about?

FACT IS ‘Populist/America Firster/Right Winger’ Pat is very, very
much acting the ‘Conservative’ frontman, blindside and apologist
for our disastrous, decades long biz-nihilist sellout and suck-up
to history’s –MOST– awesomely genocidal regime -bar none!
–ACROSS the Pacific.

In this, he’s reading from exactly the same playbook as the lowest
mercenary sleaze in our PC franchise slum Hollywood and media.

“The Americans came just like a whore,
all dressed up and knocking at our back door–”
-Chou En Lai
Nixon/MAO Summit

—PAT was on board! —and NEVER stepped off!

MEANWHILE, millions continue to suffer and die in SILENCE;
the staggeringly vast ‘peacetime’ genocide done decades AFTER WWII
in our ‘fave’ mass market regime continues to be avoided;
and the 60th Anniversary of the astoundingly relevant
—indeed, STILL unfolding, KOREAN WAR
is once again ‘mysteriously overlooked’ by one and all.

-NEED WE SAY MORE?

]]> By: Marie Claude http://pjmedia.com/blog/pat-buchanan-knave-and-fool/#comment-393424 Marie Claude Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:58:04 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=65922#comment-393424 JFM if you can get the DVD of these six documents series about the WW2 global conflict, with no partisan eye, but original documents, it is very instructive (comments in french, but it's not a problem so far for you). They are from Daniel Costelle, an historian, and Isabelle Clarke, who directed the mise en scene of the documents. They appear with the label,"Dossiers", program under the responsability of the journalist, Marie Drucker http://tinyurl.com/nu8ugg today, was 1940, the collapse of France, somethings I knew, somethings you could also tell, and somethings we both ignored http://tinyurl.com/l2ap85 JFM

if you can get the DVD of these six documents series about the WW2 global conflict, with no partisan eye, but original documents, it is very instructive (comments in french, but it’s not a problem so far for you). They are from Daniel Costelle, an historian, and Isabelle Clarke, who directed the mise en scene of the documents. They appear with the label,”Dossiers”, program under the responsability of the journalist, Marie Drucker

http://tinyurl.com/nu8ugg

today, was 1940, the collapse of France, somethings I knew, somethings you could also tell, and somethings we both ignored

http://tinyurl.com/l2ap85

]]> By: Lynn http://pjmedia.com/blog/pat-buchanan-knave-and-fool/#comment-393305 Lynn Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:48:44 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=65922#comment-393305 Yes, caestal, I am glad you have noticed that too. The far lefties will march with just about anyone to pretend they have a large group of supporters. They will often look around in a daze if this is pointed out to them, shrug their shoulders and continue with their comrades. To them it doesn't matter what you are for, it matters just that you are against the same thing they are and even that becomes unclear when in a discussions with them. Yes, caestal, I am glad you have noticed that too. The far lefties will march with just about anyone to pretend they have a large group of supporters. They will often look around in a daze if this is pointed out to them, shrug their shoulders and continue with their comrades.

To them it doesn’t matter what you are for, it matters just that you are against the same thing they are and even that becomes unclear when in a discussions with them.

]]> By: caestal http://pjmedia.com/blog/pat-buchanan-knave-and-fool/#comment-393117 caestal Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:32:15 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=65922#comment-393117 I am happy to see that very few actual conservatives even attempt to support Buchanan's nonsense just because he has some conservative beliefs... This is one of the things that differentiates conservatives from liberals. "Now And Then" 141, while I realize it is your job to troll here, that was less comprehensible than usual. Other than "blah blah blah... conservative bad" I couldn't seem to relate it to -- well, anything. I am happy to see that very few actual conservatives even attempt to support Buchanan’s nonsense just because he has some conservative beliefs… This is one of the things that differentiates conservatives from liberals.
“Now And Then” 141, while I realize it is your job to troll here, that was less comprehensible than usual. Other than “blah blah blah… conservative bad” I couldn’t seem to relate it to — well, anything.

]]> By: Greying Wanderer http://pjmedia.com/blog/pat-buchanan-knave-and-fool/#comment-392960 Greying Wanderer Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:11:15 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=65922#comment-392960 137 "What Paddy is saying is, if only Dolfie had been more like me, things would have been different." Agree. He's prohecting, without realising it, what he would have done in Hitler's place i.e aim to destroy Bloshevism without doing the rest. He's missing out that Hitler equated Bolshevism and Jews and also that, for strategic reasons, it made sense for Hitler to want to try and secure his western flank first before attacking the Soviets. The reason it's on his mind, and also why he blanks out some of the logic that doesn't fit, is he can see his version of America being deliberately destroyed by stealth marxists and how for 60 years they've used the "Nazis = white original sin" theme as a tool to achieve this destruction. 137 “What Paddy is saying is, if only Dolfie had been more like me, things would have been different.”

Agree. He’s prohecting, without realising it, what he would have done in Hitler’s place i.e aim to destroy Bloshevism without doing the rest.

He’s missing out that Hitler equated Bolshevism and Jews and also that, for strategic reasons, it made sense for Hitler to want to try and secure his western flank first before attacking the Soviets.

The reason it’s on his mind, and also why he blanks out some of the logic that doesn’t fit, is he can see his version of America being deliberately destroyed by stealth marxists and how for 60 years they’ve used the “Nazis = white original sin” theme as a tool to achieve this destruction.

]]> By: Laura http://pjmedia.com/blog/pat-buchanan-knave-and-fool/#comment-392956 Laura Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:02:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=65922#comment-392956 According to Buchanan WW2 was the allies fault. In other words hitler should just have been allowed to conquer countries and slaughter millions at will. This is the same mindset of those who defend muslims today. Those who fight back against muslim aggression are the ones accused of waging war, not the jihadists. This is a perverse way of looking at the world. According to Buchanan WW2 was the allies fault. In other words hitler should just have been allowed to conquer countries and slaughter millions at will. This is the same mindset of those who defend muslims today. Those who fight back against muslim aggression are the ones accused of waging war, not the jihadists. This is a perverse way of looking at the world.

]]> By: Marie Claude http://pjmedia.com/blog/pat-buchanan-knave-and-fool/#comment-392911 Marie Claude Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:39:35 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=65922#comment-392911 JFM what an Israeli net friend told about Mitterand in a discussion I had with him, and where I was also doubting about Mitterand opportunism and his apparently "late" adherance to the resistance official organisation : <i>A former Vichy man and sympathizer… amazing. Mitterrand was one of the French resistance’s spymasters. He was Vichysto-résistant, having formed a vast network with other former POW’s who had actually went out to fight the German invasion and survived the captivity - you never heard of the ORA? The Germans knew Mitterand by his cover name - François Morland. He’s actually famous for refusing to hand over his network to De Gaulle’s direct control, which infuriated De Gaulle to no end. Mitterand kept control of his already formed spy hierarchy as the war progressed. And he had a plan to liberate the POW and concentration camps - Operation Viacarage His war activities were secret, so when his past in the Vichy government structure was revealed it stirred up quite a controversy in the 50’s. And then there’s the fact that he arranged for wreaths to be placed on Pétain’s grave… but then, this was something De Gaulle did as well. Pétain was once France’s great hero of WWI, even if he did betray the nation later down the line. To name a couple of examples, Franz-Olivier Giesbert’s and Pierre Péan’s historic works tend to cover Mitterrand in great detail - they don’t give him a “heroic aura” or something of the sort, but they do show that he was a very important man in his time and position for the French resistance. Again, I am not entirely sure how his good will matters one way or another. Compared to his contemporaries, at least he was doing something useful for his country, and risking his life for it. If it had an ulterior motive, so be it - the world is full of useless idealists who talk a lot fail miserably when the time is for action, sometimes making matters a whole lot worse in the long run. So Mitterrand was a sneaky bastard? Good for him. That’s the kind of person you need as a spy and spymaster. It’s not the kind of person you need to *like*, on the personal level, but without people like him France might have been quite a lot deeper in Germany’s pocket, and possibly would have been lost altogether. Spies are never appreciated by honorable men - that’s because spies are not honorable. Spies are sneaky and treacherous bastards who’d sell their own mother if given half a chance </i> well Monclar was a "Legionnaire, this has a lot of positive qualities for you JFM

what an Israeli net friend told about Mitterand in a discussion I had with him, and where I was also doubting about Mitterand opportunism and his apparently “late” adherance to the resistance official organisation :

A former Vichy man and sympathizer… amazing. Mitterrand was one of the French resistance’s spymasters. He was Vichysto-résistant, having formed a vast network with other former POW’s who had actually went out to fight the German invasion and survived the captivity – you never heard of the ORA? The Germans knew Mitterand by his cover name – François Morland.

He’s actually famous for refusing to hand over his network to De Gaulle’s direct control, which infuriated De Gaulle to no end. Mitterand kept control of his already formed spy hierarchy as the war progressed.

And he had a plan to liberate the POW and concentration camps – Operation Viacarage

His war activities were secret, so when his past in the Vichy government structure was revealed it stirred up quite a controversy in the 50’s. And then there’s the fact that he arranged for wreaths to be placed on Pétain’s grave… but then, this was something De Gaulle did as well. Pétain was once France’s great hero of WWI, even if he did betray the nation later down the line.

To name a couple of examples, Franz-Olivier Giesbert’s and Pierre Péan’s historic works tend to cover Mitterrand in great detail – they don’t give him a “heroic aura” or something of the sort, but they do show that he was a very important man in his time and position for the French resistance.

Again, I am not entirely sure how his good will matters one way or another. Compared to his contemporaries, at least he was doing something useful for his country, and risking his life for it. If it had an ulterior motive, so be it – the world is full of useless idealists who talk a lot fail miserably when the time is for action, sometimes making matters a whole lot worse in the long run.

So Mitterrand was a sneaky bastard? Good for him. That’s the kind of person you need as a spy and spymaster. It’s not the kind of person you need to *like*, on the personal level, but without people like him France might have been quite a lot deeper in Germany’s pocket, and possibly would have been lost altogether.

Spies are never appreciated by honorable men – that’s because spies are not honorable. Spies are sneaky and treacherous bastards who’d sell their own mother if given half a chance

well Monclar was a “Legionnaire, this has a lot of positive qualities for you

]]> By: Now and Then http://pjmedia.com/blog/pat-buchanan-knave-and-fool/#comment-392779 Now and Then Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:15:39 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=65922#comment-392779 Whether it's the racist thing or the sexist thing or the fascist thing, you conservatives just can't help yourselves. You've lost blacks and Hispanics, most of the Jews, young people, and most of the women. You do a great job of riling up the hard-core right wing extremist base. Hope that's enough, because that's all you got. Whether it’s the racist thing or the sexist thing or the fascist thing, you conservatives just can’t help yourselves. You’ve lost blacks and Hispanics, most of the Jews, young people, and most of the women. You do a great job of riling up the hard-core right wing extremist base. Hope that’s enough, because that’s all you got.

]]> By: JFM http://pjmedia.com/blog/pat-buchanan-knave-and-fool/#comment-392773 JFM Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:00:52 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=65922#comment-392773 <i>you can’t label Mitterand as antisemit, he brother in law is Jew</i> So what? Goebbels had a Jewish girl friend. OK, this is off topic, let's return to Mitterrand I wasn't telling Mitterrand was an antisemite only that he was one of those resistants who joined the Resistance only when it was evident that Germany was going to lose the war. Now there were others who were still slower. But Monclar saw the light June 17th, 1940 and it wasn't an isolated feat: all his life reads like an arturian legend. you can’t label Mitterand as antisemit, he brother in law is Jew

So what? Goebbels had a Jewish girl friend. OK, this is off topic, let’s return to Mitterrand I wasn’t telling Mitterrand was an antisemite only that he was one of those resistants who joined the Resistance only when it was evident that Germany was going to lose the war. Now there were others who were still slower. But Monclar saw the light June 17th, 1940 and it wasn’t an isolated feat: all his life reads like an arturian legend.

]]> By: Lynn http://pjmedia.com/blog/pat-buchanan-knave-and-fool/#comment-392740 Lynn Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:48:59 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=65922#comment-392740 No Paddy is saying that the United States forced Hitler to kill all those people. No Paddy is saying that the United States forced Hitler to kill all those people.

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