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Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul: Apologists for Putin

It seems not even Vladimir Putin is as tough on the U.S.A. as Paul and Buchanan are.

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Kim Zigfeld

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August 5, 2014 - 2:17 pm
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As Vladimir Putin’s tanks begin to roll forth from Russia like Sauron’s legions from Mordor, a pair of American villains is working hard to undermine our resolve against the greatest threat from Europe to American values and power, and indeed to world peace, since Adolf Hitler.

Evgeny Feldman, a photographer for the maverick Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta, recently visited a book store in Moscow and tweeted a photograph from amongst its shelves. Among volumes on one topical shelf such as The Crimes of the U.S.A. and The Third World War and Forward to Victory, in which authors offered bloodthirsty attacks on America and her values and called for its obliteration, one tome stood out. Emblazoned on its cover was the Russian title Прокончит с ФРС by an author identified as Рон Пол.

This was a Russian translation of 2009′s End the Fed  by former Texas congressman and presidential primary contender Ron Paul, latched onto by Russian nationalists as an admission by an American that America is a fundamentally evil country leading the world down a path that leads to global ruin.

Days earlier another former U.S. presidential primary contestant, Pat Buchanan of the disgraced Nixon administration, published an opinion column in which he asked, seemingly on behalf of the Russian Kremlin: “How Would We Feel If Putin Told Us What To Do?” Sounding just like Neville Chamberlain, Buchanan viciously attacked Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee, ranking Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, for proposing legislation standing up to Russian aggression in Ukraine and Georgia, and urged the U.S. to simply ignore Putin’s bloodthirsty reign of terror there.

Paul and Buchanan are two individuals who have been decisively repudiated — humiliated, really — at the polls by the people of the United States.  More than two-thirds of the American population currently views Russia as an enemy, precisely as Mitt Romney said during the last presidential campaign, and major magazine covers bluntly and dramatically reflect the nation’s horror at Putin’s aggression. Indeed, signs of it are everywhere.

Yet the likes of Paul and Buchanan continue to beat the drum of appeasement and indeed collaboration with Putin’s evil, neo-Soviet regime.  Time magazine called End the Fed a “curious mix of the sensible and the delusional” and said that it teaches nothing about economics but much about what goes on inside Paul’s skull.  The same can be said of Buchanan.  Both men mix tiny bits of truth with great tidal waves of delusion to come up with policies that obliterate American values and world leadership and leave the field to despotic tyrants like Putin in the belief that nothing can touch Fortress America, which should simply watch the world burn.

Siding with Corker, Republican Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi shows by his deeds that he knows Buchanan and Paul don’t represent sensible American policy.  He recently fired off a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder demanding that he investigate Putin lackey Mikhail Lesin, who has been feverishly buying up U.S. real estate with funds looted via all manner of corruption. Lesin could be viewed as Putin’s Goebbles, deeply tied to the Kremliln’s English-language propaganda apparatus and struggling furiously to divide the U.S. from its allies and blunt American resolve on Ukraine and Georgia.

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While I agree with much that Mr. Buchanan has to say, I really think it is getting old that people like him and Paul and Mr. Rockwell keep on harping about if we did this and did that, we could have avoided the civil war and WWII. And it seems as though Pat has a good reason for every aggression of Nazi Germany. As if any amount of land was going to satisfy those monsters. I really doubt that Hitler invaded any country to "liberate" ethnic Germans. He turned the people of Germany into Automatons, so what favor was he doing for the Germans of the "liberated" regions?
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A somewhat hysterical hit piece on Paul and Buchanan ignoring both the US/EU initiated coup against Ukraine's elected government which precipitated the current chaos and the failure of the US to provide any convincing proof of Russian involvement in the downing of the civilian airliner.

As a footnote, any writer still kicking around Richard Nixon's abused corpse merits little in the way of attention.

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The greatest danger to America and the West isn't Putin. Good or bad his interest is A Unified Russia not invading Paris and London. Speaking of that have you notice who IS invading Paris, London, and soon America?
It's called 'Jihad' and soon they will have nuclear weapons. Putin knows this enemy and wasted no time
Dealing with them in Chechnya. He's got his eyes open unlike the dopes in Europe who are short years away from
Sharia law and Dhimmitude. So would you have Ukraine aligned with the Russian bear or the EU
Islamic vassal state? That's how I see it. Russia, not Europe, is our natural ally against the Jihadist hordes.
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These guys are living in no century that I can see. Their obsessive attempts to rewrite the history of the Civil War and World War II are tiresome, when not just ridiculous revisionism. Alll of us here watched Buchanan and (Ron) Paul during the wars in Yugoslavia and their disgraceful defense of Serbia.

And I say this as someone who's found (Ron) Paul's campaign against the Fed at least useful -- it raises the issue of our system of money and credit and how profoundly screwed up it has become since we left the gold standard. The people in charge now are befuddled witch doctors (Bernanke, Yellen), or more or less acting on behalf of an oversized financial sector that has drained away too much from the rest of the economy (Greenspan).

But now we have Forbes and Ames' new book on the destruction of the dollar, which covers the same plus more (including a ballooning financial sector and growing inequality -- these have a fascinating and unsuspected connection with the abandonment of hard money -- money printing emphatically does NOT help ordinary people). Anway, Forbes and Ames are not trying to tear America down, but rebuild its greatness. They're free of innuendo, conspiracy theories, and the general malice of the paleocons.

It will be interesting to see how Rand Paul negotiates his way around his father's weirdo politics.
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Really, are these guys representatives of "limited government," "free markets," and "international peace"? Pay no attention to what they say they say, but with whom they associate, over and over ....
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You should realize, these guys are living in the 19th Century...they think if we isolate ourselves we will not attract trouble...they are not really pro-Putin. If the US was considering siding with Putin against Ukraine, Paul and Buchanan would be attacking Putin...
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'Paul and Buchanan are two individuals who have been decisively repudiated — humiliated, really — at the polls by the people of the United States.'

The same people who elected Obama, twice.

What we have here is Realpolitik and Kriegspiel, an imploding power vacuum caused by US withdrawal from the world stage; Get used to the new normal.

NO! It will not get better, there is no going back; The world is headed for
an economic collapse followed by global shifts in the balance of power;
What is going on now is just the Fat Lady clearing her throat before
bursting into song, something about Fimbulwinter and Götterdämmerung.

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Why was my comment deleted?
All it had was
1) a correction for the mangled Russian title of Paul Sr.'s book
2) a statement about none of the sides in the Ukrainian conflict, including our government, being trustworthy
3) a call to release the evidence we say we have about the plane being shot down by the pro-Russians in order to minimize the number of conspiracy theories
4) an example of one such conspiracy theory, claiming that we are behind everything, so that we can control Ukraine's top soil

How does any of that justify deleting a comment?
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Quote: "America is a fundamentally evil country leading the world down a path that leads to global ruin."

Correction. Should say "America is a country that has been --since the presidency of Woodrow Wilson-- increasingly controled by a dual BIG BUSINESS-BIG GOVERNMENT coalition of evil bent on enslaving and debilitating the US population and using the military might of the US to bully and enslave other peoples leading them to ruin." These last 100 years the power of Liberalism has grown to such extent that they are about to finish the obstacles between them and world domination: A Conservative US, Israel, and the Christian religion. Voices like Mr Buchanan's have been sounding the alarm about the suicide of the West for decades. But small minded experts prefer to dismiss them as kooks.
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Kim, you're a one trick pony.

OCSE (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe) monitor Michael Bociurkiw mentions bullet holes in MH17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ze9BNGDyk4

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malaysia-airlines-mh17-michael-bociurkiw-talks-about-being-first-at-the-crash-site-1.2721007?cmp=rss&partner=skygrid

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I can't believe people are defending someone who claims Israel created Hamas, and someone who plays down the Holocaust and has defended Nazis captured in this nation.
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Why was that reported? Was it done accidentally when someone meant to click "Like"? Or, was it because I dinged the great and powerful Paul?


I can't believe people are defending someone who claims Israel created Hamas, and someone who plays down the Holocaust and has defended Nazis captured in this nation.

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Oh, I'm afraid I can believe it.
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It's easy to wrongly click "report" instead of "like" or "reply." It has happened to many here. Unfortunately there is no "do you really want to do this?" option in the middle.

Quote: 'I can't believe people are defending someone who claims Israel created Hamas, and someone who plays down the Holocaust and has defended Nazis captured in this nation.'

It would be quite a job. If Israel was able to infiltrate Arab society to the point of creating and financing a false movement to divide their enemies ... they would be the masters of the universe by now...

I have heard the same before when someone told me that the Nazi Party was actually conceived and supported by the US to have an excuse to join WWII. Some people would do better not thinking at all.
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I have heard the same before when someone told me that the Nazi Party was actually conceived and supported by the US to have an excuse to join WWII. Some people would do better not thinking at all. SNIP

That boggles my mind. I've read and heard over the years that the US knew Japan would bomb Pearl Harbor and that we allowed it in order to give us a reason to join the war. However, to create an organization so that we would one day go to war against it would require a level of planning that I think is beyond even the most intelligent and leak-proof conspiracy imaginable.
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You see, when one uses common sense to attack a conspiracy theorist, one immediately falls under the suspicion of being "one of them." :o)
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Oh, are you trying to tell her that, "the eighties called and want their foreign policy back?" Too late, Obama has already taken that line.
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The tell is the grave violation of Godwin's Law in the first paragraph.
This is one overwrought journo-chick. Move on.
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Sorry to disagree about your, "Godwin's law" comment, but the author did not make a comparison.
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OK, so you're sorry. I'm not, though let's try to retain a sense of humor since I've never been big on clubbing baby seals to death.

No comparison, hey? That lede is a lousy sentence, near gibberish. If there's not a badly structured comparison anywhere in sight, what would you call it? Just a drive-by smear, maybe, of 'a pair of American villains' damned by association? Or perhaps, in reality, it should be obvious to slow folks like me that the as-yet-unnamed gruesome twosome is a little better than Hitler and that the reference to 'the greatest threat since...' is to be read disjunctively, an irrelevancy that belongs out in left field, a mere unhappy coincidence because good old Uncle Adolf just happened to be parked nearby for a snooze under the shade of a friendly Ent?

Put another way: All that's missing from the cretinous lede is a visit from the proverbial jackbooted octopus of fascism, a nasty bastard who (which?) struts (slithers?) around more like Putin than Sauron on a bad day. Took a wrong turn, maybe, just like you.

BTW, it's far from clear that you (a/k/a the author? -- a doppelganger?) know that there are two Pauls. Oh, and it would help to get Herr Goebbels' name right if you're going to use it, not that it has anything to do with Mr Godwin, natch. I confess I gave up there.
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oops double post? acting weird...
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In general: There is a case to be made for isolationism. I consider it mistaken, but it's a legitimate difference of opinion. Some people, however, are so fanatically against any foreign interventionism that they end up seeking to minimize and even whitewash the most evil of countries, while blaming America for any problems.
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There _was_ a good case to be made for isolationism, before it became clear
that it is only a matter of time, a decade at most, before do-it-yourself Bio-
Weapons of mass destruction become available to terrorists.
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