Pamela Geller’s Book Stop the Islamization of America Is a Work of Love, not Hate
Pamela Geller has been a great personal friend and a fan of The People’s Cube since its inception, so I had the pleasure of congratulating her personally on the publication of her second book, Stop the Islamization of America: A Practical Guide for the Resistance (WND Books). But there’s more: the back cover has a photo of Pamela that I took with my own camera at last year’s 9/11 AFDI/SIOA Rally of Remembrance near Ground Zero, and posted on The People’s Cube the following day.
The picture was the publisher’s choice, and I applaud their preference. I don’t mind the added TV-like texture, but I wish they hadn’t superimposed text over her diamond pendant featuring the word LOVE — a nuance that gave the image an additional powerful dimension. This is important, because LOVE is at the heart of everything Pamela Geller does, including her political activism. Despite the demonization of her in the “progressive” media, she is an exceptionally loving and lovable person.
Her activism is inspired by the love of life, this world, and this civilization. She wants to protect us all — even the moral mutants on the political Left who hate this civilization and thus hate Pamela. Every normal loving person expects his or her love to be mutual. But that is not how the world works. Recognition and gratitude are not part of the Universal Declaration of Human Entitlements, and are almost as rare as the baths these spoiled brats take. One just has to accept it and not throw the baby out with the bath water.
The vitriol against Geller is growing exponentially. “I thought they didn’t like me before,” she tells me. “That was all fun and games compared to what they write about me now.”
The only way to stop the Islamization of the west is to discriminate against muslims.
the islamists would just love to slit your throat
I would disagree. We should not “discriminate” against anyone. The way to combat stealth (and overt) Islamization is by dismantling and discrediting multiculturalism and liberalism and re-assertig the American ideal. It is the former that have brought this nation to the state of dissolution that we now face and have let those who seek our destruction gain a foothold. Let the liberals “discriminate,” divide and conquer. We should embrace all who embrace being American. That is our salvation.
This article is immature and bratty, or at best, just way too excited. It reminds me of Bill Maher, or of immature kids who get indoctrinated in college. Mr. Atbashian really needs to cool the rhetoric and to take the high road. Otherwise it is hard to take him seriously.
Discrimination is the hallmark of the civilized mind. Learn it; love it; live it.
Discriminate: to note or observe a difference; distinguish accurately: to discriminate between things. Seems a shame to me that the above definition of discriminate is the #2 definition rather than the #1. To be able to discriminate between two points of view, ie: good vs. bad, seems to me to be a GOOD thing and the fact that the meaning of the word has changed from something good to something bad, ie; the use of discriminate as “to make a distinction in favor of or against a person or thing on the basis of the group, class, or category to which the person or thing belongs rather than according to actual merit; show partiality” is the liberal or rather illiberal use of language to change perception from discrimination as being a good thing to an evil one. As the poster above indicates, learn it, love it, live it. If one forgets to discriminate, one becomes a liberal/progressive who can’t tell the difference between good and evil. But then, that seems to be the mantra of libs everywhere, after all, there is no difference in cultures, right?
Coeurmaeghan in 29 Palms, CA
This horrible, bratty little post got the first comment it deserved.
Birds of a feather flock together.
Refusing to allow any more Islamic infiltration has NOTHING to do with “discrimination” in the sense of disliking or hating someone based on superficial or pointless reasons. Rather, it is based on a solid knowledge of what Islamic doctrine is all about, and what it requires of its believers.
See: Wafa Sultan: ISLAM is the problem!
Agreed. Treating everyone equally under the eyes of the law against stealth warfare by blowing up things and hijacking planes and hostages, and going on Allah Akbar shooting sprees, or Norwegian resort island shooting sprees, is not discrimination. I oppose Bill Ayers and the Weathermen terrorists as much as the Al Qaida wannabees. How is that discrimination?
It is not discrimination to protect yourself from those who want to force their idea of what is right upon you.
I agree it’s not discrimination. I have no respect for a religion that allows distortions or people of the same faith who do not speak out against it.
An honor killing ? There is no such thing. Shariah law is an attempt to undermine our justice system in the name of religious freedom and opress western culture.
The Koran is no different than a gun or any other weapon used where the end justifies the means.
When an honor killing is committed against a homosexual it will make the front pages. Until then the MSM will be hands off. Remember the Tea party are the TERRORISTS and CAIR is a victims rights group
REAL Americans will do what they have to do to save our FREEDOMS & our Country.
Give us Liberty or Death…Beware of awakening the sleeping Giant, I hear movement………..
I met Ms. Geller in 1981, when she worked for The New York Daily News. She was beautiful and charming, with strong opinions. I was so impressed, I never forgot her, and it’s been 30 years. I’m glad that she has always stayed true to her principles and beliefs, despite the unrighteous animosity directed at her by those on the left. She will always have my support, because this is a battle for the very soul of our civilization. We need Pamela Geller in this fight, a person who is unafraid to speak the truth.
Yes. The way to destroy lies is simply to point out the truth.
Lies are untrue, unreal, and when exposed to reality evaporate as the unreality that they are.
No need to hate or discriminate against lies and liars. Just confront them with the truth. In love.
Good on you Pamela Geller!
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Calling her “effective” when she currently stands accused of inspiring mass murder is certainly a bratty, immature little prank.
You know, it’s not the people who think of themselves as powerful who do the worst damage, it’s the people who think of themselves as powerless so they have no compunction against abusing their power and ignoring all morality who do the damage.
The people who think like children and think they’re clever.
Not so much the banality of evil as the immaturity of it.
When I was a boy in my civics class, I often wondered about all these freedoms in the Bill of Rights. What if a group of people came along who didn’t believe in all these rights and freedoms? Could they use this very system of rights to subvert them and take over?
Apparently, such people do exist. They’re not just Islamists; there are others.
I had always presumed that such people would not be so numerous because most would see the obvious validity of these rights. But as I grew older, I realized that in the presence of a religious fervor this may not be true.
Pamela Geller and others such as Robert Spencer are very strident in their speech, but they are attempting a scholarly debate. The reaction from most on the apologist side is that any speech against a religion is evil. This is strange because they typically argue for a very secular view of the world.
For some reason, perhaps it is the sheer pervasiveness of Islam, people don’t feel right discriminating against so many. Yet, here we are, with a religion whose leaders actively say they discriminate, they hate, they don’t believe in free speech (except where it agrees with them), and so on. They are actively arguing against the very rights our nation was founded upon.
I don’t like the options we’re facing either. I don’t particularly care for Geller and Spencer’s strident approach. But what options do we have?
Would you have your daughter being forced to wear a hijab and burkha? Would you have a theocracy imported here? Would you like to pay a tax to the nearby Imam so that you could practice your religion?
That’s what Pamela Geller is afraid of.
At the very least, I say we ought to restrict immigration from predominantly Islamic countries. Let them practice religion here as they feel they want to.
Also I think we should enact laws prohibiting foreign support of any religious institution. One of the things that has radicalized Islam here in the US is the influx of foreign money that comes with foreign strings attached. If you want to build your own right wing church, that’s OK, but don’t do it with anything but community money.
If this is wrong, I’d really appreciate someone from your position indicating why that may be so.
Ms.Geller is not afraid.
She is outspoken ,tenacious and unapologetic.She has saved lives from honor killings and shamed supporters of female genital mutilation.She stands face to face with cowering apologist,MSM,politicians,terrorists organizations and supremists.She remembers every soldier slaughtered,every muslim girl honor killed and every political deceit on her blog.Does the government?
Her passion and intensity are driven by freedom and human rights.
She and her fellow anti-jihadist are doing more for our Constitutional rights and freedom of speech and religion than our weak,apathetic government.They advocate no violence,retribution or hate.
The real Islamophobes are the government,politicians,media,apologist and historical revisionist who hide and avoid the truth,history,current affairs and hate demonstrated by muslims daily.They quake with fear at ism words and the suggestion of “unfairness.”
Josh ‘Scholar’ wrote:
> Calling her “effective” when she currently stands accused of inspiring mass murder is certainly a bratty, immature little prank.
Stands accused by whom? The very same jihadists and their Western enablers who she exposes on a daily basis for the haters that they are. Geller’s effectiveness can be measured by the extreme fear, hatred and panic of her accusers, who thought they could rely on liberal guilt to shut the mouths of the victims of jihadist violence and those who would avenge them, but did not anticipate that the truth would ultimately prevail.
The truth is that Spenser, Geller, and the entire counter-jihadist movement are guiltless and fearless in their defense of the good, and that they are untouched by the soul-rot of the postmodern left who have chained themselves to the rough beast of self-hatred and nihilism perfectly represented by the suicide bomber with a stick of dynamite in his rectum, symbol of the new order they wish to institute in place of Western Enlightenment values.
But since our hearts are pure, we each have the strength of ten, and the Enlightenment will effectively prevail.
While I support the efforts of Pamela Geller, and hope that her book does well, I personally take a somewhat harder line with regard to Muslim immigration than she does. And this is why…
See: Loyalty to Islam Always Means Disloyalty to the US
The title “Loyalty to Islam Always Means Disloyalty to the US” SAYS IT ALL !
anyone
There is only one answer to the Islaminization of America: the Biblical answer. Listen to “The BIBLICAL Answer to the Islaminization of America” at http://www.kingdompromises.org/kingdompromises_audio/islaminization2.mp3.
You or anyone who hasn’t read the Quran has NO PERCEPTION of the HATE towards ALL “infidels” –that is anyone who DOES NOT embrace ISLAM–. The Muslim is directed to KILL us and deceive (as in lie) in order to further “the faith”.
The title of this book “Loyalty to Islam Always Means Disloyalty to the US” says it all! How can the Muslim Congressman take an oath to protect and Defend OUR Constitution in honesty? The Quran gives the Muslim PERMISSION to DECEIVE in the furtherence of ISLAM. This mindset is completely at odds with our value of honesty –or has that been lost in “modernity”?
“The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.” -GK Chesterton, 1911
It’s also receiving negative reviews, in fact a certain website formerly associated with Geller (and PJ) is organizing a negative review campaign. I wonder where they got their copies?
Yeah, I was wondering about that; I was a regular at that place-that-shall-remain-nameless until I complained about the banning of two black conservatives and got the ban stick on the puzzling charge of racism. . .
I’ve heard that the person-and-sock-in-question hates Ms. Gellar because she turned down a sexual advance. Having seen them both, I understand.
All that aside – Ms. Gellar is a blessing to us all because she exposes truths that others fear. Thank God she is around.
The ongoing and intensifying drive by the “progressive” left allied with narrow, intolerant religion to obliterate opposing voices says it all. Their world only can exist in a purified vacuum. An open society is by necessity a bit messy and uncomfortable. Messy frightens them. Behold the current administration’s mountains of new regulations designed to purify the proles. It’s the Inquisition all over again, self-inflicted at the ballot box.
Our generation’s legacy must be to defend the First Amendment, lest our children be marched off to re-education camps for daring to utter disturbing thoughts.
Why is Pamela Geller now frantically editing and changing comments on her web site from years ago to the present?
Because she is in big trouble and her TV, radio and speaking engagements have been canceled– her brand is that of a pariah.
Also–
US Government agencies have now canceled all future appearances by her friend
— Robert Spencer.
We have a 4th Amendment in America
– but that does not apply to incitement to violence against ethnic groups in the US.
Geller and Spencer are now both out of work and facing few prospects .
You and Weiland should get together for tea. I’m sure you could have some interesting conversations.
Victor,
you lie.
Pamela does not implicitly nor explicitly incite to violence against any ethnic group.
She simply denounces the stealth jihad that is being helped by the left and is attacking the West and Freedom.
Her words cannot possibly be construed into “incitement”.
But of course we know the totalitarian technique of associating any dissent with “violence”.
How many times did the left incited to violence in the last 100 years ? Always. So, should I consider every leftist guilty of the Stalin massacres ? of the Pol Pot massacres ? (etc, etc, etc)
And how many times has the left called to “kill Bush” ?
I do not remember any leftist denouncing these things as “incitement”.
Of course, leftist and muslims are ABOVE any judgment….
You lie.
Geller and Spencer will soon have their days in a Court of Law
–the allegations against them are very, very serious indeed.
With the court discovery rules all will be revealed.
Their Testimony will be under oath and penalty for perjury.
It is just a matter of time
Hey, Victor FogBlow, is it cold and damp doing your writing from the White House basement?
Under what charges ? What allegations? Please elucidate.
Will you answer your perjury charges from the falsehoods you post and hate crime charges fron your anti-semitism?
Mr. Victor, are you married? Do you have children? How many wives have you? How many children?
Or, are you just another extra man thrown away by Islamic mores, who can’t have a wife because polygamy didn’t favor you? Is this why you have so much time to blog for Islam? Isn’t having no wife or children the price many Muslim men pay and isn’t that an outrageous bummer? Not to mention a generational recipe for violence and conquest.
I am glad to see that Victor the jihadist came back to answer with more nonsense.
He/she/it is the evidence we need to prove that Pamela’s work is absolutely precious. She is defending the West against a new crop of totalitarians who want to destroy Freedom and want to silence any and every dissent.
The mix of marxist bozos and islamic supremacist that is trying to destroy America dreams of “trials” where the Freedom Fighters will be declared “enemies of the State” and sent to gulags. The new, ridiculous (but dangerous) stalins…
Dream on, bozo, the resistance against YOUR violence is growing. Strong and peaceful.
aaaaah Victor our resident jewhater err I mean Israel criticizer- yup Pamela a beautiful Jewish lady who advocates for American values and dares tell the truth about people like Victor-
that must really burn you up!!!
Turkish troll eat your heart out wishin’ and a hopin’ she will go away or that your beloved totalitarian buddies can duct tape her mouth shut.
Nope not in this USA- maybe in YOUR Islamic dictatorship you can torture and imprison and kill dissenters, especially those damn uppity women (no Jews left to torture in your honmelands) – your dream of making that reality happen here has as much chance of happening as Mohammed flying on a horse. It never happened and will not EVER.
sleep perchance to dream Victor-your Nazi fantasy of Judenhass and Stormtroopers dancing in your fevered brain
Victor
Please stop pretending to be representing a “law and order” position. You clearly lack the knowledge as well as the dedication.
FYI, free speech is in the 1st Amendment, the 4th deals with search and seizure, warrants, etc.
Also, charges, lawsuits, etc. are hardly appropriate to an exercise of free speech. Perhaps these “legal actions” are in a Russian or Iranian court?
Yes, people on the Left are moral mutants, some of them on the verge of insanity, so it puzzles me why anyone would care what these people said about them. Should anyone, beyond those in the psychiatric profession, care about what people in a mental institution have to say about anything?
For the time being Leftists are free to wander about unperturbed until their dementia becomes too obvious and they have to be institutionalized. Because these people are Barak Obama’s biggest cheerleaders and believe that he is doing a good job as president many of them already have one foot over the line. Thus, they are to be pitied and ignored…until they turn dangerous.
Little Green Footballs are right at the forefront of the Geller hate campaign. A week or two ago, like half of their front page was from the same person and was dedicated to hating on her.
The only people Johnson despises more than Geller and Spenser is Glenn Beck! Johnson and his ilk have turned so leftist I hardly recognize the site now and only check to see whom they are hating this month.
LGF has hated Pamela Geller for years. since I don’t read that dreck I don’t know if he hates her more now. the idea that she’s responsible for the Norway massacre is just beyond stupid, but I guess it doesn’t surprise me.
Charles Johnson is a self-hating, steaming pile of monkey cr@p who would sell his own mother down the river if he suspected her of not loving Radical Islam as much as he does.
The guy was always a self-righteous prick and he is a sh*tty guitar player too.
My guess is that many of Pamela’s critics in the mainstream media wish they could write as forcefully as she does. She is one extraordinary wordsmith. I have started collecting quotes from her various writings. Here’s one that is appropriate to the subject of her new book. “Can someone point me to the plus side of this equation? What is the upside to the Islamization of the West? Name one thing.”
@ 14. exdem
“Can someone point me to the plus side of this equation? What is the upside to the Islamization of the West? Name one thing.”
THEIR BACKSIDES!
Apologies for the flippancy. Islamic = unAmerican.
I have been doing my part to fight Islamic extremism (or “Islamofascism” as I usually call it) long, long before 9/11. I did it mostly in my own newsletter, but also in letters-to-the-editor and newspaper and blog comments sections.
I have always had zero tolerance for these groups. I think there is no negotiating with them, no accommodation with them, no understanding of their claimed grievances. I simply want to see them destroyed. By force. By their blood. That is as politely as I can say it here.
With any large group, there are outliers. So there are a few people who feel the same way I do about Islamic extremists, who are on my side, who are also over the top. Just plain nutty. It’s a bell-curve phenomenon. And Pamela Geller is one of them.
When I read the blog post and came to the part that Geller was an “exceptionally loving and lovable person” I actually wondered if the post was parody, like Frank J. Fleming’s posts. That is the last thing Geller is.
Those who wonder what I mean can probably quickly understand by Googling something like: Pamela Geller quotes
People like Geller make people like me, our jobs harder. Those who have sympathy for Islamofascism, who don’t like the US, who don’t like Israel, who don’t like conservatives, etc. point to people like Geller to try to paint all of us who oppose them with the same dirty brush.
Let me try an analogy. My politics are on the far right. The Klu Klux Klan and Pat Buchanan are also on the far right, but I don’t want anything to do with them. I don’t want to be associated with them. I don’t want to have to defend myself from accusations of association with them. They make my job harder. Geller makes my job of fighting Islamic extremists harder.
For what it’s worth – as I said earlier, all groups have their nutty fringe. About an hour ago, on another blog, I *defended* Geller from accusations that she is somehow responsible for the killings in Norway. She may be off the mark, but she is not evil.
And I like her Superwoman costume.
“I have been doing my part to fight Islamic extremism (or “Islamofascism” as I usually call it) long, long before 9/11.
“I have always had zero tolerance for these groups. I think there is no negotiating with them, no accommodation with them, no understanding of their claimed grievances. I simply want to see them destroyed. By force. By their blood. That is as politely as I can say it here.
With any large group, there are outliers. So there are a few people who feel the same way I do about Islamic extremists, who are on my side, who are also over the top. Just plain nutty. It’s a bell-curve phenomenon. And Pamela Geller is one of them.”
Maybe i am misunderstanding your post.You want to see muslim’s destroyed and their blood but say Ms.Geller is nutty?
Got bats in your bell-curve or did i miss the point?
If you thought that I wrote that I want to see Muslims destroyed, you didn’t miss something. In your own mind, you added something. Something that I didn’t say (or believe).
The Left has no delusions about sharia law. They are allied with Mohammedans right now (just as they allied with Hitler in 1939) because Islam is the strongest enemy of Western/Christian civilization at the moment. As the destruction of this civilization is the ultimate goal of all Leftists, they’re content to stand back and watch Allah’s followers do the hard work of demolition.
The relationship the left has with Islam is best explained with the axiom; the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
She is certainly an “inspiration” to some…
18. TomD – Heh, yeah. I may be old but I’m not dead.
As an “Atlas Shrugs ” regular and Pamela Geller SUPPORTER,I’m here to tell you that Pamela Geller is as COURAGEOUS & PRINCIPLED a person as humanly possible.
Her BRAVERY in STANDING UP for OUR FREEDOM makes her a HEROINE of our times
Not only does Pamela do thorough investigative REAL Journalism and publishes NEWS that the MSM IGNORES,but she is a TRUE LEADER in the fight to keep the USA and the Western World FREE.
She has created organizations that ACT.
She has CONFRONTED major cities on 1st Amendement issues such as bus & taxi signs.
She has done her best to protect possible future female victims of Honor Killing.
She’s in there fighting,ALL DAY,EVERY DAY for OUR FUTURE(S).
I COMMEND & THANK Oleg Atbashian for writing this GREAT post in SUPPORT of a Wonderful woman and 21st Century Heroine,Pamela Geller.
If Pamela Geller is a loving person, she may want to try to express it better. Everything she writes and says publicly simmers with hatred for anyone who disagrees with her in any way. Express an opinion she does not share and you are a ‘dhimmi’, a ‘traitor’, a ‘terorist’…the list goes on.
Reality check–Geller is not a very nice person. Neither is she a very informed person, or someone with a realistic world view.
is this the same Pam Geller who willingly served as Milosovic’s token useful idiot?
How’s your slug bait working, Kalegore?
The market has determined the fate of Geller and Spencer–their brand is now that of pariah.
You will not see either of them on my favorite channel–Fox News.
Spencer has even been fired by Pat Robertsons 700 club
No more briefing with PD departments, DHS agents–their books have been taken of the recommended reading lists for the US Militarily
No more paid trips to Europe or anywhere else.
The right and the Tea Party treat them as something you would scrape of the sole of your shoe
They are finished–kaput–toast and are a tiny footnote to the KnowNothings
Victor lies again!
Hey, FogBlow, how many posts do you need to make it obvious that you are a leftist, a multiculturalist, and an America-hater?
Victor is a poster boy for every sick twisted Leftie Jihadi Enabler out there..
What a pack of delusional lies Victor posted about Pamela & Robert !
WHEW!
Victor is so wanting for his Anti-Pamaela & Robert fantasy to come true that he actually “believes” it’s “already happened”.
WOW!
These delusions of Victor go beyond “Cognitive Dissonance.
Victor: Check youself into a hospital,you’re not in reality.
Wrong Victor, I clicked into this link because I wanted to learn more about Geller and her views. I am sure I am not alone.
Dear Victor, you seem to ignore the fact that many of us have actually read Spencer or Geller’s work and know more about islam than you do. For myself, 1/3 of my father’s family was murdered by muslims in what is now Pakistan. Their crime: being non=muslim (hindu). Hindus have lived in ‘Pakistan’ for thousands of year and are virtually ethnically cleansed now. Hindu women are raped all the time by muslim men and their hindu families can’t even see them because they are infidels. That is reality.
Perhaps you don’t care about the little black and brown people subject to islamic slavery, genocide, rape, jizya, etc. for 1400 years.
You are either a muslim or a left winger. Grow up. You don’t know who your audience is.
BTW, We in Canada have Sun TV now which is exposing that in Toronto (yes folks we are at 5% muslim population so that means ….jewish synagogue defaced, photographer punched by muslim woman in park, muslim prayers in a secular, publicly funded school, yet another honour killing). 5% and this is the result. wow, can’t wait for it to be 15% like India. Sarc on.
Pamela Geller is one fantastic lady. And very brave.
Jihad is an obligation in the Koran. The Koran commands Muslims to conquer all nations and peoples and subjugate hated, despised infidels under extremely cruel Islamic sharia law where females are regarded as inferior and defenseless non-Muslims have no human rights.
Islam seeks to destroy our Western civilization of justice, mercy, freedom and human rights.
What kind of people attack Pamela and others who courageously defend freedom and Western civilization?
Is treating one’s political opposition as a monolith lacking character a rhetorical devise or a fallacy?
Hint: Trick question
I wanted to put a comment on Pamela’s website but was unable to. I’m not on Facebook, Twitter, etc.
Thank you, Pajamas Media, that I’m able to comment on your website!
I am quite a fan of both Ms. Geller and Mr. Spenser, they were standing in the breach before 9/11 and many didn’t even know there was a Islamic threat. I became aware of the problem through Iranian friends in 1979 when they lost everything but their lives to our, actually lame brained Carter’s betrayal of the modernists in Iran.
Since its founding America has been imbued with the 5 unalienable rights, freedoms set forth in the Bill of Rights, the 1st ten amendments to the Constitution; freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom to peacefully assemble, freedom to petition the Government for a redress of grievances, and, last but not least, freedom of religion. It is that last, coupled with the dual obsession with political correctness and multiculturalism that is the root cause of the world’s inability to deal with a problem that it refuses to recognize exists.
Islam is considered by most to be a religion but what is largely ignored, willfully or more likely due to just plain ignorance, is that it is much, much more than an individual’s personal belief in an almighty God. It is a complete system that dictates and directs every aspect of behavior for a devout Muslim; religion, worship, politics, jurisprudence (Sharia Law), the treatment of women the subjugation of the unbelievers, Christians et. al., and the annihilation of the Jews.
Those who attempt to educate and elucidate on the true nature concerning the tenets of Islam, which guide the “true believer,” the orthodox Muslim who is taught from infancy that their prophet Muhammad was the “perfect man,” one whose every behavioral quirk, if emulated by a Muslim, will guarantee his entrance to paradise, are routinely ridiculed, disparaged and reviled by Muslim and non-Muslim alike.
The immediate response from the uninitiated unbeliever, every non Muslim, is, “so what?” All religions have their guiding principles of morality and behavior, pious or sinful, pleasing to their God or incurring his wrath and divine retribution and when Muhammad is revealed as a pedophile, a misogynist, a sexual deviant and a bellicose killer the revealer is immediately tagged as an extreme, right wing, racist, bigoted fanatic unworthy of any consideration whatsoever. How could this about Muhammad possibly be true?
What none of these “intellectually enlightened,” politically correct naysayers seem to recognize, what literally is staring them in the face, is that the tolerance, respect and abject supplication they confer on Muslims is never reciprocated. For Muslims, Jews are anathema and must be eliminated. Christians are harassed, persecuted and murdered in every country where Islam dominates and those who dare to criticize Islam, write critical books or draw cartoons of Muhammad are haunted by death threats, fatwas issued by a Mufti, an Islamic scholar. This is not fantasy or idle speculation, this is fact. Google Salman Rushdie, Theo Van Gogh, Aayan Hirsi Ali and Geert Wilders for current examples.
Burn a bible? No problem; not even worthy of mention. Freedom of speech don’t you know. Burn a Quran? Bedlam; demonstrations and riots in the streets, loud proclamations declaring the risk of violence that will likely result if this criticism is allowed to persist and no one questions how violence can be perpetrated or even threatened by a so called “religion of peace.” No, we non believers had all better just shut up and behave, get used to how it will be when Islam becomes the dominant “religion” in America and on the planet as ordained by Islam’s evil version of God, Allah. After all, Islam is a religion is it not and, in America, everyone is free to practice their faith and those who staunchly and blindly stand with the “persecuted” Muslims no doubt feel very good about their magnanimity and adherence to the Bill of Rights.
Pamela Geller has been at the forefront of the vital effort to expose orthodox Islam for the violent, virulent system it is but she is far from being alone. Google Robert Spencer, Raymond Ibrahim, Walid Phares, Walid Shoebat, Geert Wilders, Aayan Hirsi Ali, Bat Ye’or, Mark Steyn, Brigitte Gabriel and there are many others.
America and the world have yet to recognize that freedom of religion was never intended to apply to a religion that does not offer full reciprocation of that right to all other faiths and belief systems. Islam is not a religion of peace, it is a religion of violence, intolerance and is actively seeking global hegemony accompanied by the subjugation or murder of all who resist or refuse conversion to Islam. The world had better wake up, begin paying attention, recognize the true nature of a very real existential threat and prepare for battle. These fanatics will not go quietly in the night,
The only reason people claim that Islam is not a religion is so that they might be able to condemn Islam while at the same time trying to protect the polytheistic-promoting First Amendment. Islam IS a religion. It just takes its religion more seriously than does modern Christianity. The same argument used against Islam being a religion is also used to keep what is today merely Christianity from once again becoming Christendom, as it previously was in 17th-century America.
The answer is not to eliminate Islam, but to eliminate the First Amendment’s provision for *all* First Commandment violations and, with it, the rest of the Constitution, which in nearly every article and amendment is antagonistic to Yahweh’s morality as found codified in His Commandments, statutes and judgments. See “Bible Law vs. The United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective” at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/articles.php.
Geppetto-
BRAVO! Your explanation of the “religion” of Islam is spot-on!
Pamela- Keep up the fight! You are right in your cause!
Oleg- (I know you have a crush on Pamela) wink!wink!
We like Mark Steyn at least he is articulate and literate
–the other goons were trying to make money by inflaming religious hatred and violence–they are history–the party is over–yet the band plays on.
Walid Shoebat has been totally discredited and revealed as a fraud–he has lost all his contracts with DHS, local PD departments etc and you will not see him on my favorite channel–Fox News any more.
Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are, in fact, the favorites of the Neo-Nazis in Europe and the new Kach Kahane thugs–that is , in part, why they are in very, very, serious trouble.
We will continue to read Mark Steyn at the National Review and the Orange County Register.
The Nation Review see Pamela Geller and Roberts Spencer as bottom feeding trash and will have nothing to do with them–good judgment.
Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer will have to rely on their European Neo Nazi friends–Oh wait a minute–even they are running for the hills from these race baiting scam artists–that tells you something.
Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer have lost their brand and lost their market in the free market capitalist world.
They are still sucking up to and brown nosing the Euro- National Socialist–but now even those thugs have thrown them out.
They are a tiny footnote in the history of the Know Nothings and nobody wants to be seen near them.
Their future is playing three card monty and shell games on 42 Avenue–wait–even that era is over.
They are too old and wrinkled for porn
Maybe rehab? too little too late
Victor, wake up. You’re having that recurring wet dream again.
I have read all of Robert Spencer’s books. They are well-researched, scholarly even. He has a good sense of humour, is calm and articulate AND HAS NEVER INCITED VIOLENCE against muslims.
You obviously are a troll.
Did Victor Mortis say something? When I see his name I just scroll on by. He has nothing to sell besides Troll Bait and Mobyisms.
The International Left is smearing all of the Anti-Fascists/Anti-Jihadists because of Oslo. The level of enmity makes one wonder if there may not be some elements wagging the dog here.
The Fascists are back on the march around the world after 60+ years relegated to the shadows.
Islam is a counterfeit religion, a fraud, an imposter. It should not be given religion status because it is an invasion ideology. Please see my article, “Demoting Islam’s Religion Status” linked below:
http://www.newmediajournal.us/staff/sobieskey/2009/03192009.htm
I always say “I want to be just like Pamela when I grow up”… (even though I’m older than she is). Pamela is a brave ROCK STAR.
Islam is a totality, not a religion. Islamists do not acknowledge any other “way” to God. Therefore, they are antagonistic to freedom of choice in religion or “government by the people” who are not, themselves, muslims. When we decide that it is they who have marginalized themselves the game will be up and we can deal with it realistically.
Look, folks, I’m an Israeli (though I have lived a long time in the USA), so, God knows, I know quite a bit about the threat political Islam poses. But Geller — I am judging by her web site — constantly hurts her own case by going down conspiracy theory alley.
She find in the ground zero mosque’s ugly zig-zag lines a “secret message” to show the “star of David breaking down and falling”. Also, the decision to create a memorial for flight 93 in the shape of a broken circle is seen by her as “really” being an Islamic crescent and therefore “really” part of the conspiracy to make America Muslim.
Need I say more?
I might as well take an aerial photograph of a new intersection, find out it looks like a cross, and declare this is proof of a coming theocratic Christian dictatorship. Hey, if finding a star of David and a crescent are evidence, why not a cross?
> I might as well take an aerial photograph of a new intersection, find out it looks like a cross, and declare this is proof of a coming theocratic Christian dictatorship.
Bad analogy. The intersection is designed on the requirement that form follow function. If the roads cross there will be a cross. But the form of a traditional cathedral will deliberately be on a cross-shaped floor plan without a functional necessity to be thus. The form of a postmodern facade, as that on the Ground Zero mosque, will inevitably be designed not on the basis of form follows function, but on the basis of conscious or subconscious whim, for that is what postmodernism is, and therefore it is perfectly legitimate to read any symbols one finds therein to be intentional.
The same is true for the broken circle as crescent, except that it is more likely to have been unintentional or subconscious initially, and the real offense came with the refusal of the committee to scrap the plan when all those curious Islamic symbols (including the Mecca orientation) were brought to their attention. I’ve seen apartment complexes laid out on a swastika floor plan simply because it made the best use of the space. Use the same plan to build a Holocaust memorial hospital, regardless of a lack of symbolic intent, and you would be thought quite mad to claim it was appropriate, wouldn’t you?
You shrink from what you think of as conspiracy theories, but they are no more than sensible semiotics.
>>>>>The form of a postmodern facade, as that on the Ground Zero mosque, will inevitably be designed not on the basis of form follows function, but on the basis of conscious or subconscious whim, for that is what postmodernism is, and therefore it is perfectly legitimate to read any symbols one finds therein to be intentional.
No, it isn’t — because it is *certain* that you will find stars of Davids, triangles, “American” (five-pointed) stars, “Satanic” symbols (the pentagram, or “revesed” five-pointed star), crosses, and just about any sort of more-or-less simple shape you look for in a large collection of jagged lines. What’s more, since you can give it any interpretation you wish, that multiplies the “hidden meaning” of the “symbols” infinitely.
Let’s take Geller’s claim that it see the “star of David” being broken. Well, she sees a star of David at the top of the building, and messy triangles at the bottom. But there are messy triangles *everywhere* in the building. So her entire interpretation is based on finding a star of David somewhere near the top of it.
But a star of David — especially when you allow for somewhat distorted or imperfect ones — is almost certain to have been found SOMEWHERE in such a collection of lines. What’s more, suppose it were the opposite? Suppose the star of David were to be found at the bottom? Would it then prove to Geller the broken star of David (the triangles at the top) are becoming “healed” as the jagged traingles begin to go down the building, becoming a “whole” star of David, and the building is “pro-Jewish”? Doubtful! She would then probably say the “real message” is that the the Jews are inferior, on the bottom — or the the six sided star is being “blown up” (like in a terrorist attack, you know!).
You see there is no end to this. When you look for ANY sort of collection of simple shapes and allow yourself to give them ANY sort of interpretation you like, it is certain you will be able to “prove” any large collection of jagged lines is sending a nefarious secret message or any sort you choose.
I will tell you all a little story:
One Day, there was a huge Rain and there was flooding everywhere, the water was slowly rising, and one the banks of the river sat both a dog and a scorpion.
They both knew that if they made it to the other side they would be safe, so the Scorpion pleaded with the dog to let him ride on his back to the other side and the dog kept saying “No because I know that you’ll bite me” and after continuious pleading the dog finally relented.
the scorpion promised not to bite him but as they got within reach of the other side the scorpion bit him, as the dog lay there dying on the road on the other side he looked at the scorpion and asked him “You promised that you wouldn’t bite me, why did you bite me?”
the scorpion smurked and said “You should’ve thought of that before you gave me a ride for this is who I am and I always will be” now for the benefit of all you “dumbed-down, the world is Mister Rodgers neighbor, ignorant types, the Dog represents us, and the Scorpion represents muslims
For anyone who has read the koran should know that it preaches hatred of the westerns and that women are second-class citizens and properity nothing more, and that muslim men can sexually, physically and mental abuse women without any repercusions
so therefore she’s got it right!!!!…oh and one other thing if a muslim man wants your wife or girlfriend or daughter, they can take them legally and there’s nothing you could do about it…just food for thought!!!!
>>>>For anyone who has read the koran should know that it preaches hatred of the westerns…
Er, the Koran could not possibly teach to “hate westerners” (as opposed to “infidels” in general), considering “the west” as a concept did not exist for at least another few centuries, depending on how you define “westerner”.
@crewchieff
In reality it is a very old fable and is about a frog and scorpion-it has been around for 3000 years
Get some form of education
–if you can afford it while blogging from your mothers basement
Or just do the decent thing