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	<title>Comments on: Pact or No Pact, Teens Shouldn&#8217;t Have Babies</title>
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		<title>By: MommyGirl</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/pact-or-no-pact-teens-shouldnt-be-having-babies/#comment-532948</link>
		<dc:creator>MommyGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 03:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a young mother, I do not think that all teenage parents are neglectful or not worthy of having their children. I became pregnant at 17 and was a mother a week after my 18th birthday. When I was 17 I dressed conservitavely and was with my boyfriend ever since I was 14 and he was 16. We used condoms since I did not have access to pills and only had sex after I turned 17. I became pregnant and chose not to have an abortion because I too felt the urge to become a mother. I continued to make an A-B average throughout my pregnancy and graduated high school on time with my freshman year of college already under my belt. Now at 19, I have an associates of art and I am still with the father of my child. Right now he is the breadwinner while I finish college. We are not married yet because of my scholarships. We are not on welfare, nor are we using food stamps. Our child doesn&#039;t go to daycare because we plan classes and shifts in tandem. At any age, parenting is hard work, but the teenage mom can do it. There are people who adopt children who do not deserve to be parents, but slip through because they have the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a young mother, I do not think that all teenage parents are neglectful or not worthy of having their children. I became pregnant at 17 and was a mother a week after my 18th birthday. When I was 17 I dressed conservitavely and was with my boyfriend ever since I was 14 and he was 16. We used condoms since I did not have access to pills and only had sex after I turned 17. I became pregnant and chose not to have an abortion because I too felt the urge to become a mother. I continued to make an A-B average throughout my pregnancy and graduated high school on time with my freshman year of college already under my belt. Now at 19, I have an associates of art and I am still with the father of my child. Right now he is the breadwinner while I finish college. We are not married yet because of my scholarships. We are not on welfare, nor are we using food stamps. Our child doesn&#8217;t go to daycare because we plan classes and shifts in tandem. At any age, parenting is hard work, but the teenage mom can do it. There are people who adopt children who do not deserve to be parents, but slip through because they have the money.</p>
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		<title>By: whiskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me add, can someone comment on the assertion in the Common Dreams link in the post by Sestambi?

Is the peak years of fertility for women between 17-23? If this is true, it has profound implications for the West and it&#039;s society. If it&#039;s not true, there is less profound implications.

Can anyone cite credible scientific research to either back up or disprove the claim?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me add, can someone comment on the assertion in the Common Dreams link in the post by Sestambi?</p>
<p>Is the peak years of fertility for women between 17-23? If this is true, it has profound implications for the West and it&#8217;s society. If it&#8217;s not true, there is less profound implications.</p>
<p>Can anyone cite credible scientific research to either back up or disprove the claim?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: whiskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WE do have the worst of both worlds. Women, educated and professional, delaying pregnancy until the perfect husband and the perfect time, which either comes in the early forties or not at all.

Meanwhile as noted, teen mothers with no husband and no responsibility or skills have kids that will end up fatherless and/or on welfare. Motherhood is too important a job to be left to the unskilled or immature. It is the most important job there is. I would not trust a 16 year old with it.

I would trust a responsible 26 year old with it, however. We need to change our culture and society, to encourage marriage and children in the twenties, with women choosing carefully responsible men, and being able to re-enter the workforce with no penalty after three-five years. With men expected to fully share in all household and child care chores.

That same 16 year old, if she does not get pregnant, continues her education, becomes skilled, and marries a responsible and mature young man, can be a fine mother at 26.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WE do have the worst of both worlds. Women, educated and professional, delaying pregnancy until the perfect husband and the perfect time, which either comes in the early forties or not at all.</p>
<p>Meanwhile as noted, teen mothers with no husband and no responsibility or skills have kids that will end up fatherless and/or on welfare. Motherhood is too important a job to be left to the unskilled or immature. It is the most important job there is. I would not trust a 16 year old with it.</p>
<p>I would trust a responsible 26 year old with it, however. We need to change our culture and society, to encourage marriage and children in the twenties, with women choosing carefully responsible men, and being able to re-enter the workforce with no penalty after three-five years. With men expected to fully share in all household and child care chores.</p>
<p>That same 16 year old, if she does not get pregnant, continues her education, becomes skilled, and marries a responsible and mature young man, can be a fine mother at 26.</p>
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		<title>By: TalkinKamel</title>
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		<dc:creator>TalkinKamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A young married woman who wants to start a family isn&#039;t putting her life on hold if she has a baby.  The key here being &quot;married&quot;.  A teenager who has a kid by a 20-something father, who dumps her for somebody else, isn&#039;t just putting her life on hold, she&#039;s mortgaging her entire future, and that of her kid.  

For one thing, as Richard of Oregon points out, these teen mommies are usually too young and inexperienced to raise a kid by themselves.  Let&#039;s face it; a lot of them aren&#039;t going to finish school or train for a career.  Too many of them just wait around for the next &quot;boyfriend&quot; to come along, meanwhile dumping their kid on their grandparents, while they go party.  Even by their mid-twenties, they won&#039;t have had the experience of supporting themselves, or possess any really useful skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A young married woman who wants to start a family isn&#8217;t putting her life on hold if she has a baby.  The key here being &#8220;married&#8221;.  A teenager who has a kid by a 20-something father, who dumps her for somebody else, isn&#8217;t just putting her life on hold, she&#8217;s mortgaging her entire future, and that of her kid.  </p>
<p>For one thing, as Richard of Oregon points out, these teen mommies are usually too young and inexperienced to raise a kid by themselves.  Let&#8217;s face it; a lot of them aren&#8217;t going to finish school or train for a career.  Too many of them just wait around for the next &#8220;boyfriend&#8221; to come along, meanwhile dumping their kid on their grandparents, while they go party.  Even by their mid-twenties, they won&#8217;t have had the experience of supporting themselves, or possess any really useful skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard of Oregon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard of Oregon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is something about this that I don&#039;t understand. Why are thirteen year old children allowed to make vital life decisions for another child? All the important decesions about abortion, prenatal care, infant care and onward are being decided not by an adult, but by a child. It&#039;s true that the government attempts to undertake a massive role as surragate father, but where is suragate dad at 3 a.m. when the 3 week old baby is a screaming, vomiting pain in the neck. It seems like common sense that adults should be raising children, not children. 
How would the teen pregancy situation be affected if pregnant girls below a certain age, say 16, did not make these vital decesions for themselves, but a parent/guardian had that power?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something about this that I don&#8217;t understand. Why are thirteen year old children allowed to make vital life decisions for another child? All the important decesions about abortion, prenatal care, infant care and onward are being decided not by an adult, but by a child. It&#8217;s true that the government attempts to undertake a massive role as surragate father, but where is suragate dad at 3 a.m. when the 3 week old baby is a screaming, vomiting pain in the neck. It seems like common sense that adults should be raising children, not children.<br />
How would the teen pregancy situation be affected if pregnant girls below a certain age, say 16, did not make these vital decesions for themselves, but a parent/guardian had that power?</p>
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		<title>By: G Farmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>G Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are we not giving our children information on BOTH sides of the equation...abstinence and birth control? 

Both of my daughters supplemented the abstinence only sex education at school with a healthy dose of reality (see the comments by Sally)and serious birth control information when the children came home and asked WHY they should not have sex. Imagine a sex ed class that does not teach WHY abstaining is important as it relates to what the life of a teenage parent is.  

Their answers included disease, teen pregnancy, no college, no dates, friends, football games, no new clothes, welfare, food stamps and all of the other drawbacks of being an unwed parent. 

As a result the children have decided to remain celibate until marriage. Time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are we not giving our children information on BOTH sides of the equation&#8230;abstinence and birth control? </p>
<p>Both of my daughters supplemented the abstinence only sex education at school with a healthy dose of reality (see the comments by Sally)and serious birth control information when the children came home and asked WHY they should not have sex. Imagine a sex ed class that does not teach WHY abstaining is important as it relates to what the life of a teenage parent is.  </p>
<p>Their answers included disease, teen pregnancy, no college, no dates, friends, football games, no new clothes, welfare, food stamps and all of the other drawbacks of being an unwed parent. </p>
<p>As a result the children have decided to remain celibate until marriage. Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do you think your parents put their life on hold by having and raising you?&lt;/i&gt;

No, but they didn&#039;t have me at 16. And again, at that time, there weren&#039;t many career options for women besides housewife/mother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do you think your parents put their life on hold by having and raising you?</i></p>
<p>No, but they didn&#8217;t have me at 16. And again, at that time, there weren&#8217;t many career options for women besides housewife/mother.</p>
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		<title>By: SGT Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>SGT Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it odd that getting married and having a baby is viewed as &quot;putting ones life on hold&quot;, but only for the woman.

Having a family is a very fulfilling life. Not that silly-girl random teen pregnancy is the equivalent of an intact family nor do I argue that it is s good thing. But the equate having a family while young with putting your &quot;life on hold&quot; is ridiculous. Not everyone needs to go to college before they settle down with a family. If it&#039;s about being a responsable parent, one might want to defer a career in order to raise ones children.

Do you think your parents put their life on hold by having and raising you?

Barring irresponsible behavior, isn&#039;t the operative word and idea &quot;choice&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it odd that getting married and having a baby is viewed as &#8220;putting ones life on hold&#8221;, but only for the woman.</p>
<p>Having a family is a very fulfilling life. Not that silly-girl random teen pregnancy is the equivalent of an intact family nor do I argue that it is s good thing. But the equate having a family while young with putting your &#8220;life on hold&#8221; is ridiculous. Not everyone needs to go to college before they settle down with a family. If it&#8217;s about being a responsable parent, one might want to defer a career in order to raise ones children.</p>
<p>Do you think your parents put their life on hold by having and raising you?</p>
<p>Barring irresponsible behavior, isn&#8217;t the operative word and idea &#8220;choice&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That NRO article uses the subject of teen pregnancy to launch into a Pollyanna view of young marriage - a view in which she assumes that everyone has the love and support of a nearby family. She also seems to forget that long ago when women had babies and married young, there were very few other options for them. Women go to college now. Have careers. That an 18 year old is the perfect physical specimen for babymaking is no reason for a girl to put her life on hold and have one.

The Common Dreams article is a mish mash of sexism, perversity and some diatribe about an Australian child care law I don&#039;t care to read about at the moment. I can&#039;t quite decide if his praise of badly behaved, lewdly dressed girls is farce, or if he is just an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That NRO article uses the subject of teen pregnancy to launch into a Pollyanna view of young marriage &#8211; a view in which she assumes that everyone has the love and support of a nearby family. She also seems to forget that long ago when women had babies and married young, there were very few other options for them. Women go to college now. Have careers. That an 18 year old is the perfect physical specimen for babymaking is no reason for a girl to put her life on hold and have one.</p>
<p>The Common Dreams article is a mish mash of sexism, perversity and some diatribe about an Australian child care law I don&#8217;t care to read about at the moment. I can&#8217;t quite decide if his praise of badly behaved, lewdly dressed girls is farce, or if he is just an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wife and I are 19 and 22, respectively. We married when she turned 18 and decided to have a baby, which we did 7 months ago. She&#039;s a great mother and we both love our son.

I don&#039;t see why we&#039;re any less qualified to be parents than some irresponsible 35 year old whose career takes precedence over family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wife and I are 19 and 22, respectively. We married when she turned 18 and decided to have a baby, which we did 7 months ago. She&#8217;s a great mother and we both love our son.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see why we&#8217;re any less qualified to be parents than some irresponsible 35 year old whose career takes precedence over family.</p>
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