Comments on: Pacifist Spain Abandons NATO Allies in Kosovo

By: anonymouse

anonymouse — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:27:06 +0000

#61
Spaniards aren’t cowards, nevertheless they are soft. Majority of spanish (and european) population is over forty and old people have to take care of themselves. Their feebleness informs their decisions even though they may not notice that.

By: Still Bill

Still Bill — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:50:47 +0000

#62 Marie Claude: Yes, “Big Willie” and “Big Willie Junior” are on my key-board. Do you want me to send you a digital photo?

By: wancow the islamogynist

wancow the islamogynist — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:57:15 +0000

MiamaMan: “As for Monsieur Wancow, please read what I wrote: “It is true, Franco was a tyrant and a fascist remnant of the Europe between the 2 wars.” I know his limitations.”

In that case we don’t disagree :p

By: Marie Claude

Marie Claude — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:34:48 +0000

uh, still Bill, yours are on your key-board I believe

By: Still Bill

Still Bill — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:31:18 +0000

All this back-talking between numbers one, two, and three fools above, doesn’t get to the core problem. Spaniards are “soft”. They like to kill brave bulls, but they don’t have the “you know what” (aka “balls”) to defend themselves. Sorry cowards, but sometimes the truth hurts.

By: Marianne

Marianne — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:38:13 +0000

MiamaMan

“Hitler asked Franco to allow Germans troops through Spain to attack Gibraltar. Franco answer to Hitler was to remember what had happened to Napoleon in Spain.”

hey, one can’t say he was an idiot, But he rather didn’t want to taste the english bombing and their invincible armada

By: Marianne

Marianne — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:24:53 +0000

wancow, right, I read it too quick, I still had his previous post in mind

well poor since Napoleon ? umm, yes we got some Goya painting in Louvre museum, dunno if Napoleon brought them
I think this is more due to the spanish kings that focused on latin America for keeping their richnesses

Spanish throne was vacuant around 1870, that that Bismark wanted to give it to a preussian noble, that France opposed, cuz she didn’t want to be encircled by ennemies, but thus it degenerate into a war in France, not in Spain

By: MiamaMan

MiamaMan — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:16:33 +0000

Ma Cherie Marie Claude!

Hitler asked Franco to allow Germans troops through Spain to attack Gibraltar. Franco answer to Hitler was to remember what had happened to Napoleon in Spain.

As Monsieur Wancow stated, I already agreed that Spain was poor under Franco, but when he started governing, the country was devastated. At that time, there was also large emigration from Portugal with no Franco, and a large one too from Sicily and Calabria to northern Italy.

As for Monsieur Wancow, please read what I wrote: “It is true, Franco was a tyrant and a fascist remnant of the Europe between the 2 wars.” I know his limitations.

Voilà!

By: wancow the islamogynist

wancow the islamogynist — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:01:10 +0000

“If Spain was such a rich country as you advocate, then why as many Spanish emigrated to France, Belgium, Switzerland”

I think he admitted it was not a rich country at the time, and had not been since before the French occupied Spain under Napoleon.

Post Franco Spain boomed somewhere between 1980 and 1992. Madrid was like a different place. I do, however, disagree with MiamaMan on Franco. I happen to think he was the best they could hope for out of the Civil War. He was as benevolent a dictator as there has been, but he was still a dictator.

By: Marianne

Marianne — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:22:34 +0000

“Adolf Hitler’s Germany was one of the foreign countries most involved in the conflict, contributing economic loans as well as several thousand troops to the Nationalist cause. Hitler’s involvement in the Spanish war was consistent with a larger Nazi foreign policy aimed at diverting British and French attention from Central and Eastern Europe so that he would be unhindered in his plans for eastern expansion”

http://www.janus.umd.edu/Feb2002/spanish%20civ%20war%20tom/01.html

Franco was able to keep her out of 2nd World War (Hitler after his meeting with Franco at Hendaye said he would go first to the dentist to get all his teeth pulled that deal with Franco again).

Franco was redevable for his place from Nazy Germany, thus a neutral alliee that provided merchandises, minerals, free harbour accesses to Nazy Germany.

for the economical situation of Francish Spain, I got to get stats back, but hey had one of the poorest life earnings of this era,one of the highest percentage of anaphalbetism… Franco annexed Basque Land which had an autonomy statut for decades, because the industry was mainly situated there. If Spain was such a rich country as you advocate, then why as many Spanish emigrated to France, Belgium, Switzerland… as muslims nowadays ?

we had exactly the same number of spanish immigrants as Maghrebin

agree for the spanish money crisis analyse though

BTW, I’m Marie Claude, just I thought that my nic couldn’t pass trough, it still doesn’t in another topic