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Alright!!!! This is a great day for America!!!
Blessed, blessed day!!
A few personal thoughts-it was Osama’s terror strike on 9/11/01 which led my brother on his world wide anti-terror journey.It was this day which changed his life forever,as he helped supervise for the NYPD the remains of the dead at the main morgue nearby.It was this attack which led him from one bombing to another throughout Israel, Egypt, Turkey, Spain and Russia,in order to investigate leads, give tactical recommendations which helped secure NYC.He did.
The posters can read his harrowing tale in his Oct 2010 released book, Terrorist Cop, by (NYPD,Homicide Detective First Grade)Dzikansky and Robert Slater.
Also, ALL credit for this RIGHTEOUS kill goes to the US Special OPs forces which secured the hit.Of course, the legwork of all behind the scenes are due the nation’s thanks.The fact that Obama is POTUS when the pieces fell into place to get him is just happenstance.Of course, once Osama’s location was verified, he had NO option but to order the hit.
The same can be said if Bush was POTUS, or anyone else.Again, the heroes are the ones on the front lines.Let’s not forget this important distinction.
Remember when President Obama said that he was going to use a “scalpel” rather than a “hammer” to defeat Al Qaida? Rather than sending in hundreds of thousands of troops to Afghanistan to capture or kill Osama Bin Laden like a “hammer”, he used predator drones and special ops to capture or kill the leader of Al Qaida like a “scalpel”. The predator drones have killed numerous of Al Qaida top officials in these last 2 years. Unbelievers will always cloud their judgments but the facts will always reamain.
Be that as it may, you would have to be a TRUE believer not to notice this little tidbit-what are the chances that Obama’s announcement on this glorious capture would ‘coincidentally’ time with the need to pre-empt Trump’s Apprentice show?
Now, far be it from me to trumpet Trump,as I don’t waste my time watching reality tv-an oxymoron in any case-but come on…..what better way to actually thump Trump than to announce it during his time slot?
Well, either Obama is the luckiest son of a bitch alive, and coincidentally his news interrupted his nemesis’s show, or……
Some ‘conspiracies’ are really just opportunist planning, this one just may happen to be one of mega political news.IF it looks like a duck…..
Yeah…of course. The entire National Security Operation was TIMED to embarrass a carnival barker buffoon with bad hair, bad marriages, broke casinos and bad ideas.
Are you guys TRYING to make yourselves look stupid? Just when I would have thought you couldn’t possibly be any dumber than birthers.
And how many civilians have those predators killed in operation scalpel?
Nato killed Gaddafi’s son and some grandchildren in operation butcher’s knife.
Syria complicit in the insurgency against American troops in Iraq and aider in chief to Iran in supplying I.E.Ds R&Ded in Gaza by Hezbollah operatives, against Israeli tanks. (That’s what the tunnels were for in in those days)
Assad left to his own devices has killed hundreds of innocent civilians and ready to help launch a war against the Israelis with Iran, Lebanon and Turkey when Samantha Power tries out her R2P doctrine for the second time.
So after 10 years, with the scalpel, extirpated a fraction of the metastasized cancer.
Don’t you know that you can throw a scalpel like a bowie knife? That way you don’t get contaminated by any body fluids, by keeping a safe distance from the WORK!!!!
And you can throw and duck, throw and duck, until you finally hit the target. Especially if you’re hiding behind the U.S. Military.
Have you ever heard of the Taliban before? You know, the effective ruling government of Afghanistan? What’s your scalpel solution to dislodging an entire government of Al Qaeda co-conspirators? That makes about as much sense as saying Churchill and Roosevelt should have used a scalpel to destroy the Third Reich.
Thank You to our mighty military for a job well done. GO USA!!
Let’s see how the Republican Party tries to steal this one. It took a Democratic President two and half years to capture target number one, much less than a Republican President. Damn right my President will have my vote in 2012. Just an overjoyed American!
Your an idiot and the comment you made answers the question, “Why is there an idiot Muslim from Kenya that hates America, in the White House?” Because of people like you. He’s nothing more than a used car salesman.
You’re (not your) an idiot for still clinging to the fanatical and absurd beliefs that Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya. I guess you just can’t stand it that your boy W couldn’t get the job done even after more than 7 years, hundreds of thousands of American troops (thousands killed and more wounded), hundreds of billions of US taxpayers dollars spent (including on a ridiculous war in Iraq that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, Al Qaeda or OBL). What were you hoping for? That Obama would lose the election 2012 and one of your tea bagger candidates would capture OBL?
Thank you, Pete, for you see, it’s people like you that makes this triumph so bittersweet. Osama Bin Laden was the biggest example of what the true face of hate and evil was, like Hitler. President Obama, since his inauguration, has consistently been persecuted for everything from being called a muslim to being accused of being born in Kenya. This is so bittersweet because we were the victims of pure hate and evil in September 11, 2001 and good has conquered hate and evil. This is poetic justice. No matter how long it takes, good will always prevail against hate and evil. So thank you, Pete, you have shown that we have a lot more work to do in conquering hate and evil in this world.
You “pinnacles of intelligence” have evidence that it was a conspiracy concocted by Bush that brought down the Twin Towers!
You’re not giving up on that now, are you?
Why don’t you capture Bush and give him a civilian trial after keeping him in Guantanamo for a couple years?
You jihadi’s for Obama get dumber every day.
Hmmm…something in what you wrote suggests that you wouldn’t have been as overjoyed had a Republican president been in office. Nice to know that your sense of belonging is conditional.
Actually this kill should be credited to Trump.
If not for Trump slapping that thin skinned, hypersensitive dilettante around, bin ladin wouldn’t have been killed till just before election day 2012.
All credit and honor to the men who carried this out. They’re heroes.
Your president is a befouled slug, a suppurating pustule. Damn right you’ll vote for him.
I won’t believe it until I see the death certificate.
The long form!
And Usama was lecturing Law students at Harvard via Twitter while taking on line correspondence courses for his Doctorate in Law.
But, don’t ever expect to get any documentation of that, either.
Obama took 2 years and 3 months to accomplish what Bush could not do in his entire presidency, to capture or kill Osama Bin Laden. I forsaw in 2008 that he was going to be the President that would get Osama Bin Laden. I had told friends, co-workers, and family that the future headlines would read – Obama Killed Osama or Obama Caught Osama.
And he only had to unilaterally invade Pakistan to do it. I wonder if Bush would have done the same thing if you would have been overjoyed. Me thinks your hypocritical biases would not allow for such fairness.
No, Dave just thinks that the preparatory work all started in ’08. Of course, I think that would be news to the intelligence agencies involved. As others have noted: Obama has continued the policies and programs begun under Bush with very little modification; this being but one example.
perhaps W and his neo-con chicken hawks could have gotten the job done sooner had they had not invaded iraq
Like everyone involved with counter-terrorism suddenly forgot about OBL? Yeah, right. Whatever you say, Skipper.
Amazing…on one hand Libs have been screaming, “He’s no different than Bush” (ie Guantanamo, the Afghan “surge”, etc.). On the other hand, now that bin Laden is dead, they want to draw a distinction!
Hey whiz-kid! You can’t have it both ways!
I shouldn’t be surprised I guess. Slime will always creep to the lowest corner in the room.
My third predicted headline was – Obama Got Osama.
They tore-a-bore in him!
I forsaw in 2008 that he was going to be the President that would get Osama Bin Laden.
You “forsaw,” eh Criswell? Mind picking some lottery tickets for me?
you libs are really going to stick to this line?
assuming this is all true let us see:
enhanced interrogations of two gitmo detainees (how do you feel about this double whammy?)
led to the couriers and their compound in pakistan (supposedly off limits)
this leads to a counter-terrorism strike force (mitch rapp anyone?) that assassinates bin laden as well as a human shield (how you feel about that?)
nevermind that the supposed ball got rolling under bush policies that the left vehemently opposes
As I had mentioned above, I foresaw that this day would come and the reason is that President Obama had mentioned in his 2008 election campaign that he would use a “scalpel” rather than a “hammer” to defeat Al Qaida. Rather than sending in hundreds of thousands of our troops to Afghanistan to risk their lives and capture or kill Osama Bin Laden like a “hammer”, he opted to use predator drones and special ops to target Osama Bin Laden and his top officials like a “scalpel”. Also, President Obama had removed most of our troops from Iraq and was focusing on Afghanistan/ Pakistan where Osama Bin Laden actually is. This strategy has proven effective since our predator drones have killed numerous of top Al Qaida officials in the past 2 years and now our intelligence and special ops have finally pin-pointed and killed Osama Bin Laden.
I foresaw this since President Obama took office. The reason is that in life, there are always polar opposites like good & evil, right & wrong, truth & lies, etc. Like the Chinese ideology, there is a yin and a yang. If there is a yin, there has to be a yang and vice versa. Osama has an S and it is his first name. Obama has a B and it is his last name. Both names sound similar with the exceptions of one letter and one is a first name but the other one is a last name so they are polar opposites like yin and yang. Since Osama is evil, Obama had to be good and I knew that their path would inter-twined. I foresaw the future headlines reading – Obama Killed Osama, Obama Caught Osama, or Obama Got Osama.
An interesting proposition.
How, then, do you explain the existence of the color gray?
So, now, do you continue licking his boots, or work your way up?
Cybergeezer, you are just an old geezer sitting behind a computer. You are the most digusting human being that I have been reading on this website. You are probably an old geezer full of hate and contempt for anything that is good in this world. I bet the clock is ticking for you so you are spewing out all your last minute hate.
So JL, does that mean the troops can come home now and Guantanamo be closed? I guess there must be no more terrorism anymore since Lord 0 eradicated it from the world.
Obama is best president ever. Was able to follow up on actionable lead in only eight months time. Obama for life.
The US military and intelligence performed superbly in spite of our “commander-in-chief”
Thank you President Obama, it was your decisiveness in choosing the correct approach and strategy that accomplished this mission. The SEALs and CIA also deserve credit but in the end, President Obama decided which approach to take and it was a total success.
“Obama is best president ever”
Yeah. ‘Cuz Lincoln and Washington sucked. FDR, JFK? Losers. Truman, Reagan, Teddy Rex? Wimps.
Anyone ever wonder if we’re too stupid for a democracy?
FANTASTIC!! In the same weekend, Obama has assassinated Ghadfi’s child, three of his grand children and OSL. I pray to Allah that none of our Muslim brothers seek to even the score with our lord Obama!
That strike on Gadhafi was performed by NATO and not the U.S., you ill-informed nitwit!
Ohhhh, so if you get your big stencil out and spray paint NATO on a US warplane, that makes it ok, huh? Or is it just that bombs with (D) on them are o.k. and bombs with (R) on them are verboten? I was in Bosnia; I remember the atrocities of the Clinton administration.
It’s not hard to find a photo of Libyans burning an American flag in response though…not hard for anyone with at least in IQ over 40 that is so perhaps I shouldn’t be so critical of your foolish naivete.
Yeh, yeh, when according to some people I correspond with in other parts of the world NATO=America!
They weren’t too impressed with the killing of the grandchildren.
And in a year or two the Brits and French will have slunk out of the room and the US will still be holding the baby.
Let it be noted that (on PJTV, at least) the first morons to make this political instead of simply a great day for the nation were Liberals trying to make this event sound like a reason to love Obama and hate Bush.
Our intelligence agencies succeed or fail due to the party whose backside warms the chair in the Oval Office? Sure.
G-d bless America, even its idiots.
There were some weird stumbles in the speech, most notably the spot where he says “Today I authorized a mission,” or words to that effect – about four minutes in? “Today” he authorized it? The man’s been a corpse for a week or so.
My husband opines that with the number of stumbles and missteps in that statement, they were not ready to announce this; they were going to sit on it.
Jamie, from what I understood, the military had been pursuing this mission starting a week ago from the intelligence that they received. Obama gave them the go ahead on the mission. He wasn’t killed until today, and of course Obama is trying to take the credit for this all happening. To all the libs who suddenly showed up here, Obama merely answered a phone call from the folks who do all the real work, and gave them the go ahead. The Obama Admin. had nothing to do with Bin Laden being killed.
Except that while Bush lost focus and attacked Iraq for reasons that had little to do with Al Qaeda or bin Laden, Obama refocused on those that had attacked America and should have been taken out years ago. It was this refocus on the real enemies of our country that culminated in today’s successful attack.
Is it coincidence that it happened 8 years to the day after Bush declared “mission accomplished”?
Was it really eight years to the day? That is hilarious!
how does the doctrine “leading from behind” fit into all this
for all you libtards pulling your head out of the sand long enough to drop a line here best you go back– you are not giving your side the illusion of “intellectual superiority” it desperately needs to maintain
I agree with you that Bush was leading from behind and that’s why he never caught Osama. Good observation, daxypoo.
How long until hysterical Arabs start blaming the Zionists?
Good point – I’ve been searching the web for Arab reaction, but haven’t found anything yet. Side note – all these folks celebrating at the White House, please note honest happy cheering and flags, not orchestrated chanting, killing random bystanders, and demands for suicide attacks. Two different cultures, clearly.
Breaking news form Al That Jazzeera: The helicopters where remote controlled from Tel-Aviv by Bibi Netanyahu himself. Honest!
Is ignorance bliss?
OBL being dead is a good thing–unless the reason he’s dead now instead of years ago is, that now Obama decided a bump in the polls was worth more than the intelligence that bird-dogging bin Laden was generating. Which would not be a good reason for it at all.
Especially if his death is a pretext for abandoning AfPak to the enemy.
It is great that OBL is finally caught/killed, but isnt today also the same day Bush gave his ill conceived “Mission Accomplished” speech?
And the Obama team announce this now? Stinks of pure political posturing.
I already doubt that OBL has only been dead a week. Soon a progreesive will call me racist for my doubt…………………..
Tom, the ‘timing’ is indeed suspect, especially on the heels of the release of his COLB.Coincidence?Perhaps….
Recall, this is a man who lies as easily as he breathes.IF character is the measure of a man, the nation certainly has reason to suspect his timing to order the strike.
Needless to say, Osama’s death IS a God send.However, timing IS often everything, and perhaps 6 months ago(if they could have hit him)may not have been the opportune time for Obama politically.Happenstance cannot also be discounted as a factor….
It is remarkable that OBL was whacked on (catholic) Mercy Sunday. It is also remarkable that May 1st is International Labor Day which was instituted because two other terrorists were executed that day, Nicola Sacco and Bartolomeo Vanzetti. John Paul II, arch-enemy of Communism was also beatified on Sunday. Quite a series of coincidences…
Like Joan Baez used to sing: “Here’s to you Nicola and Bart!”
Sorry for the mix up: Sacco and Vanzetti were executed on August 27. The May 1st remembers the Haymarket hangings.
Would it not have made more sense to do it last year during the Health care debate? Think about it. He could have distracted everyone from health care, his numbers were diving at that point. He also could have saved it for next year during the elections. Now is not the most opportune time, and your conspiracy is baseless.
The world should rejoice. Whether it will or not is irrelevant. Let the Muslims have their chains, the burqas, and their Korans. Let them continue to hate us. Free men fear no one. It took us 3,519 days to it, but the U. S. armed forces have helped him to meet his maker.
Great work President Obama! A great day for America.
And thank you for keeping us safe.
Good job President Obama! Now about that five dollar a gallon gasoline, double digit unemployment, rising food prices, tripled federal deficit and weakness in Syria and Libya…….
Most likely a concocted story, as OBL has probably been dead for years. But useful for the Administration to cover for the fact that it is the greatest friend the Muslim Brotherhood has ever had.
15. Larry in the Silicon (Wadi)
“Most likely a concocted story, as OBL has probably been dead for years.”
With Obamas long form birth certificate hidden in his rectum I’m sure. Both were uncovered the same week… …a coincidence? I don’t think so.
God you people are stupid.
If memory serves, Bin Laden was said to have had bodyguards who were sworn to kill him to prevent his being taken alive. Not taking anything away from our people who hit his hideout, suicide or death at the hands of one of his own people is a real possibility. Just saying – we don’t know and may never know the full story. That is fine with me. Despite what the media claims, we don’t need to know all the details on everything that goes down.
One last thought: dollars to donuts, in the week since his death I’ll bet we have garnered some impressive intelligence. The terrorist phone line equivalents will have been burning up as they tried to access the damage.
The order would have been to kill on site. So as to avoid a lengthy and messy aftermath with a public trial, human rights groups, muslim fanatics etc. Also it’s easier to transport a corpse across enemy lines than a live body. And why take chances that he might escape alive during exfiltration.
Maybe they debriefed him first:
- “Where is Bin Ladin?”
- “I’m Bin Ladin”
Fair is fair, o fellow libertarians and conservatives!
If it happens on your watch, it belongs to you, good or bad, fair or foul.
That is the iron rule.
Obama gave the go order to clip that no good %^&%*(^*&(.
So he gets the credit when the no good ^&&()%(%(*(( finally got clipped.
I didn’t vote for him either, but the rule is the rule.
Agreed. Mumbling about the “timing” of all this (wag the dog, etc) is conspiracy-minded crapola. We already have a black eye due to the birther ‘tards. What’s more likely, that the intelligence service finally ran the bastard to ground and the sitting Prez gave the obvious order, or that this is an elaborately timed conspiracy designed to boost Obama’s rating? Man up, folks. The President and the military did what they were supposed to do. Let’s not turn this into a lot of silly-ass foolishness. There is no conspiracy here, and anyone seeking to impose one (especially when the story is 5 minutes old and we know NOTHING in the way of detail) looks like a twit.
Thank you for the rational comments. Now hopefully we on the center left and those of you on the center right can work together to pull this country out of the morass. After all, it was a rather famous Republican that said “A house divided against itself cannot stand”.
Once the left has been crushed like the roaches they are.
Obambi gets some credit for pulling the trigger on Bin Laden, same as Stalin and the Red Army gets credit for offing the Nazis.
Doesn’t make us pals though.
It is refreshing to hear the voice of reason from conservatives on this site.
I agree. I will give him credit gladly. This is exactly what he said during the campaign about actionable intelligence. As long as we have quiet agreements with Pakistan regarding such an action, I celebrate this. I have no problem giving him an attaboy for this.
I do not like him. I do not like what he is doing to our country. However, when he does something right, I fully support the President. I will not hold back out of partisanship. Good on him.
How will we get him to act more like President of the whole country, if we do not give him credit when he does things we like? Let your praise be full-throated. Totally good on him.
Believe it or not, you aren’t going to find anyone much closer to the political center than Obama. The health care situation has made him appear socialist to some, but in reality he was/is just trying to solve an economic problem that the private sector has been unable to address, and that the Republicans refused to address when they were in power.
Another factor that makes him seem more liberal is the disproportionate amount of noise coming from the hate mongers on the fringe right. Fortunately noise and hate speech don’t necessarily translate into votes and in fact may be counterproductive for the Republicans.
Anybody look at the Google Earth picture of Abbottabad, where they got him? It looks like a college town in rural Arizona, or something. I always pictured him hiding in a cave. Kinda stinks to know he was living in comfort, not in fear.
Time to declare victory and bring our troops home
Time to end the handouts to ME nations
Bibi should cancel his trip and his tin cup begging to the US Congress–
His mission is now toast–
We will end the $20 Billion handout to various leeches and parasites in ME
We need that investment at home in America–time have changed
No more handouts to the ME
Enough is is enough
Hear, hear. Right on to that. Let’s start with the UN and the PA. It’s about time Israel was given a free hand to deal with murderers, thugs, and thieves.
Best part about it is they got him in his house, which means they probably got his laptops and any papers he had.
God Bless our Service Men and Women, their Commanders, and our Command in Chief. Wonderful news!
If O was going to have something go right for him for once, this is a good one…
The honor goes not to our President, but to our fabulous military and their persistence despite liberal’s lies, distortions, twisting truth, calling our military mercenaries, comparable to gulag goons (Dick Durbin), torturers, killers of innocents, and thugs.
And for you libs trying to score political points while making standard fare asses of yourselves as usual, here’s a guarantee you’re going to learn the hard way with the fickle American public.
When gas hits $5.00 a gallon, UBL’s death will be an afterthought.
The murdering Bin Laden is dead! Thank you American servicemen, our military.
Based on the fact that everyone was under 25 years old, I think the crowd that showed up around the White House was contrived on Facebook and the other social media by Obama campaign operatives. Nice job, Dems. Politics is everything, I guess.
Now we just need his old friend and mentor, Dr. Z.
And this shows how the Paki’s have been against us the whole time. Can we PLEASE stop pretending that they are our allies now?
Agreed. Construction on his mansion in Abbottabad began in 2005, but Pakistani ISI had NO IDEA where he was hiding? I find that hard to believe.
It sends a powerful message: To those who would take innocent American lives, know that your actions arouse and summon their countrymen who will pursue you unceasingly and tear down you and yours even unto death.
Today is to great a day to argue petty politics. I should be a national holiday. This isn’t about Bush or Obama. It is about America, the people that animal killed, the sacrifices made by our service men and women and justice finally served.
I will not get in the mud and bicker about the small hates that passes for political discourse today. Today I just celebrate.
Right on. Dem or GOPer, if you can’t be happy about THIS, please just move to Canada or something. This is about loving your country, not pushing your petty political agenda.
OBL’s head in a jar should be kept in the White house for now on. You know, like on the mantle over the fireplace.
Gee, if working for intelligence wasn’t such a secret thing and all that, I would have for sure guessed you were part of the intelligence dept.
This comment was directed to the obnoxious jharp. Like,Ed mentioned, jharp was given a time out.OK.
Who is “you people”, jharp? Strong words from a “useful idiot”.
Jharp has been given a time-out.
I hope you don’t deprive him of his ‘binky’.
This was a reply to 56. Ed Driscoll.
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“He was on dialysis for Gods sake. A dialysis machine in a cave?”
There are portable Dialysers using batteries or any old line voltage, and tanks of R.O. water. They’re quite common, thanks.
Well, well, well. So vadju know ’bout dat?
Go Navy! Let’s all do push ups to go along with their big touchdown!
Clinton, Bush, and Obama and our amazing military deserve the credit. Any American including Trump has the right to question the credentials of ANY official and should not be demeaned for doing so. I voted for George H. Bush and Obama. George W. acted very presidential on 911 and made the committment for justice by targeting Bin Laden. Obama picked up the ball and closed the deal. It was teamwork. We are ALL on the same team. We need to lean to stick together as Americans so we can compete globablly. Please STOP listening to the political rhetoric of the media and treat ALL of our leaders with the respect they deserve.
I’d like to teach the world to sing…
I’m conservative. I’m not an Obama fan.
But Osama Bin Laden was killed on Obamas watch. End of story.
Obama send McCrystal to Afghanistan, he send Petreus to Afghanistan. He gave the go ahead for the final mission. Something Clinton wasn’t able to do.
And don’t forget that Obama gave the go ahead for SEAL team snipers to take out 3 Somalian pirates. No other president has had the cojones to do something like that with the hole world watching before. Not even Reagan (Achille Lauro).
Give the man his credit. Even if the liberals wouldn’t do the same for a republican President.
I’m a liberal and I cheered W when he carpet bombed Afghanistan in 2001. But then he dropped the ball in Afghanistan and focused all military action in Iraq instead.
Iraq turned out to be a good way get al-Qaeda, because they made the strategic mistake, choosing to fight us there. In the end, we killed LOTS of them. We got lots of prisoners for interrogation, too. The Iraq war may have turned out to be the key to this key intel.
If al-Qaeda had attacked us in Afghanistan while we were busy in Iraq, then it would have been a serious mistake. Wars are not won by the most competent army. They are won by the least incompetent army. Bush made a mistake, but it worked out, because the enemy made an even bigger mistake.
These are not isolated things. It takes a lot of events to lead to this, including the very effective water-boarding. We would not have had this key intel without water-boarding. It forced KSM and others to give it up. It is never just one thing. It is a chain of events and decisions. We have been working on this for a looong time.
Was Iraq really a mistake?
Looking back, battling in Iraq was much more productive for the U.S. Military, than battling in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
It looks to me that Bush suckered many high level Al Qaeda and Taliban warriors out of Afghanistan to fight in an area that was easier to command and traverse.
I don’t know, Marc. I’m hearing that the initial “intelligence” may have come from Gitmo detainees pulled out of Afghanistan and/or Pakistan NOT Iraq. Although these detainees include KSM and others who were water boarded, it sounds like KSM would NOT give up the name of OBL’s trusted courier. Rather, KSM (and other Gitmo detainees?) apparently downplayed the significance of this one individual who turned out to be the key to tracking OBL to the compound in Abbottabad. If this is true, then it would tend to refute your hypotheses that the war in Iraq and water boarding were essential for finding and killing OBL.
Let’s just be thankful he is finally dead since we can all agree on that. And let’s start asking the all important questions about Pakistan’s role in helping find him or helping to hide him from us.
That a SEAL sniper need go any further up the chain of command than his Platoon commander is already an endemic problem of political micromanagement of the military. Something that wasn’t nearly as prevalent in Reagan’s time. It also doesn’t take “cajones’ to order the killing of 3 barely trained thugs with automatic weapons. It’s literally like shooting fish in a barrel.
However, a Republican president immediately has to face a hostile press corp the second the military chips the paint off some mosque in an engagement, while the same press slavishly genuflects to his majesty King Obama’s courageous acts, even though he is sending troops unilaterally into a Pakistan. This is no different than when I was in Bosnia. All the civilians murdered by US planes was of no consequence to the biased media; and the wars in the Middle East were quickly regulated to the back page the second the O was in in office.
The bastard should be buried according to American tradition–in a vat of bacon grease.
With a cross made of pork chops on his chest.
When Osama’s soul meets his Maker, he will be in for the shock of his existence… it will not be allah, instead it is the God of Israel and Christ. The next shock Osama will get is when his soul is consigned to hell for eternity.
I’ve been waiting many years for this day.
Good job by President Obama and the members of our military who finally sent this rat to hell where he belongs.
May many more terrorists and state sponsors of terrorism die at our hands in the years to come.
Crying shame we didn’t take him alive. THAT would’ve been quite a trial. Welcome to Florence, Colorado. You’ll be staring at these 10×10 walls for the next 30 years, 23 hours a day. You can come out at 3am every night to play basketball with a narcobaron from Bogota. Plus, we’ll be serving you pork 3 meals a day. We’ll INVENT new medicine to keep you alive, and there’ll be a free TV feed to every family member of a 9/11 victim.
Or would the ACLU call that cruel and unusual? How about we let him go for a walk through lower Manhattan and put it on pay-per-view? Or, we could have just put him in a room with Rudy Giuliani and, y’know – see what happens.
Do you suppose Satan will put him on the same bowling team as Hitler and Judas?
I was kind of hoping for a US tour of his formaldehyde fixed corpse so we could all see the bullet hole in his head. Who wouldn’t pay a $10 admission fee to see that? And the proceeds could be used to decrease the deficit.
Can I get a senior annual pass?
Seniors get discounts. Alas – they already dumped his body in the ocean somewhere. I hope they were shark infested waters.
Comforting to know his bones are being picked clean by Hogfish and crabs.
I hope that doesn’t spawn any terrorist sea creatures!
Congrats also to Petraeus, who was in command of the theater at the time, just before his reassignment. He gave us the Surge (victory in Iraq), and now he has given us bin Laden. I hope folks choke on their “Betray Us” ad.
The death of OBL needs a proof even if people don’t seem to ask for it. He died before or now? But prove it! Is it too much to ask in the world of today?
Sorry to rain on the parade but I’m calling “bullshit propaganda” on this one, folks. Something reeks of effery here (burial at sea? for cryin’ out loud)?
No. Just no.
Buried at sea? We got to see Saddam Hussein arrested and then hanging from a rope. What the heck? And since when do college kids show up at the White House after waiting breathlessly to hear what the President has to say? With signs!? Obama has had one of the worst weeks of his presidency this past week. And at the end information about his crazy alcoholic woman chasing father comes out. Come on. If there was a body it was probably sitting in formaldehyde for a year – waiting for 2012-he just had to use it a little early. Can’t wait to see what the P.R man extraordinaire Axelrod comes up with next.
Curious and curioser that his face was unrecognizable and that the body is so quickly unfindable. Gun battles don’t usually obliterate faces. I know trolls will attack this statement, but then libs have no intellectual curiosity and view Obama through rose-colored glasses. I am NOT a right-wing nut and believe this probably happened as said, but a few nagging and logical doubts are needling at me.
That having been said, it is definite that All about Me Obama took credit with at least 2 of his “I determined we had enough intelligence to go in” and “At my order…” Perhaps I didn’t hear his entire Me Me Me speech but I only heard him toss off one brief allusion to the brave men who actually risked and achieved this wonderful victory.
Whatever all the facts we don’t yet know, the arrogance and “self-centered-ness” of this President are undeniable.
THE SEALS ARE HEROES BEYOND WORDS WE CAN EXPRESS.
Odd that you mention logic, as you have at least three fallacies here – namely two Red Herrings and an Appeal to Ignorance. Your post could (and in fact WILL) be used in my writing class next semester when we cover fallacies.
If you want to defend the modern upholders of Western civ, you might want to EXHIBIT some of it.
Care to mention the fallacies?
Gosh, I’ve taught critical thinking for two decades and the ‘red herrings’ are irrelevant to his argument (I’ll leave you to point them out, and your ‘appeal to ignorance’ is ambiguous, which is in itself a fallacy.
There are indeed logical and empirical problems with Obama’s declaration of Bin Laden’s death. Of course, there is the obvious self-aggrendizement strategy of his taking credit for the will, the action and the result. That’s directly due to Obama’s narcissistic need to control others, and there’s plenty, whew, pleny of evidence of this psychological pathology already in his words and behavior.
But, the logical and empirical problems of believing Obama remain – apart from the FACT that we know that Obama is a pathological liar (lots of empirical evidence on that already).
First – there’s the body. It’s now gone. Gone.
Second – photographs? Well, I’ve seen one..of an ambiguous face with black hair and black beard. Obama was grey.
Third – DNA evidence? heh. What proof is there that the sample came from his body and not from ten years ago? Hmmm?
Fourth – evidence that Bin Laden was alive over the past ten years. None.
We have still photos, all the same, of Bin Laden, with a voice over reading some text. That’s all. Absolutely no photos, even by his devoted followers. Just the same old one. No videos. Nothing. No evidence of him in meetings, sending orders, being involved. Nothing. Not for ten years.
And then, suddenly, the Messiah declares that he’s killed Bin Laden. But there’s no evidence. None. Other than His Words.
Obama operates solely and totally within words. Within a virtual reality; not the real world of facts and evidence and hard data. So, Obama says Bin Laden is dead…and expects us to believe him. Obama, a pathological liar.
I submit that Bin Laden has been dead for at least 8 years. Evidence? The total lack of new photos, videos, reports of involvement in plans.
Logic: If Bin Laden were alive, then, his followers would have deliberately shown us NEW photos, live videos (even in a hidden room) and reports of planning involvement. Instead – nothing. Plans and agendas all come from others. Never from Bin Laden.
My conclusion? This is a cynical, unprincipled and manipulative tactic of Obama…to ‘bring back the adulation’ of the masses. To him..to Him. The Savior, the Messiah, the One.
But it sure isn’t truth.
Oh – will Obama claim the millions for getting Bin Laden? Hmmm?
What would be the American people’s reaction if it came out that Bin S0n of a 8!tc# was either still alive, or dead for many years, and 0 knew it?
The furor over Watergate would be nothing. We might have a revolution in this country.
Ask yourself – is 0 willing to do this?
(I don’t want to have an opinion —-> coward)
I am deeply sceptical of this as ‘fact’. I consider it fiction, a cynical election tactic. Obama is a pathological liar and has no ethical principles; his only agenda is about himself. As Himself.
I believe Bin Laden died of natural causes at least 8 years ago. He hasn’t been SEEN for 10 years; he hasn’t been photographed for 10 years. All that has emerged has been copies of old photographs (with hair sometimes black and sometimes grey)..and a voice-over. But has he been seen alive? Photographed? No.
It’s an election tactic. The Seals kill him..and then, without providing proof to the world, they ‘bury him at sea’? Really? What about photos of Bin Laden as dead? What about evidence..now…of him as dead.
All we have as evidence, is, get this: Obama’s rhetoric. And Obama’s rhetoric has been shown, again and again and again, as totally false. And as having only one agenda: to turn you into swooning followers of: Obama.
And from some of the mindless, uncritical posts on this thread, such a tactic works. Again – think of it. Some people, who must be aware that the speaker, Obama, has been publicly and frequently shown to lie, accept – without any evidence – a statement of Obama’s.
No evidence. No photos. No first-hand reports. Nothing. Just the Word of the Messiah, Obama.
The Special Ops unit that did the deed has been identified in various reports. I believe a member of that unit would come forward if it was all a fantasy; somebody in the unit or chain of command would break ranks over a matter of this importance.
Also, I believe the timing of the thing works if either: 1) little lenin was looking forward to having bin Laden in lockup for the next 18 months, or 2) he patriotically realized that a quick death would be best for the country. I’m going with door #1. If the goal had been to shoot him in the head, they would have done it in late summer 2011.
So, my question is whether the Seals followed orders or not. Al Jazeera’s initial report is that the goal was to capture him alive, which fits. Note: Al Jazeera is backing away from that now. Surprised? Now, the seals are combat gods. I have a hard time believing 20 to 25 of them couldn’t subdue a sickly 53 year old man who has been cooped up for at least 10 years. I suspect they took matters into their own hands and executed him to limit little lenin’s propaganda victory.
Both of us are hypothesizing.
I’m stating that there is no current evidence of Obama’s death. There’s no body. No viewing of the body by non-military press. No photos.
I can’t accept the DNA because I don’t know when the sample was taken. Samples can be taken years ago and kept – as they would have to be, to match up the so-called ‘current’ sample with its stored reference.
And there are no photos, no hard evidence of his body. And- he’s been physically absent for over 8 years. No videos, no new photos, no reports of his planning orders. Nothing. Just same-old grainy photos of him with a voice-over. And the new guys making the plans, who were not Bin Laden, were shown in actual video, in actual new recent photos. But not Bin Laden. Not for a decade.
As for the Seals, a top military order to only be in the attack group if you take a vow of silence and remain silent; that this venture is to strengthen the US and weaken the Al Qaeda – and a lecture that any breach of such a vow will greatly harm the US and strengthen Al Qaeda..well..
That’s my hypothesis and my questions about evidence.
I’m siding with the military on this one. I know there is a chance that several dozen people directly involved might remain silent, and the several hundred friends and family might not come forward. I just dont think that would happen. Somebody would talk.
If they were all CIA guys, I would be more sceptical.
Even so, I agree with you and others that there are mysteries about this that raise doubts.
We’ll probably both evolve on the matter in the days ahead.
Proreason, your points are reasonable and persuasive, but I still have the nagging doubt concerning the immediate burial at sea. I would like to hear your thoughts on that. It makes me think of the spouse who rushes his/her beloved to a crematorium before questions can be asked.
I think the burial at sea is additional evidence that the Seals acted against orders.
The reports make the event sound ragged, which it would have been if the intent had been to take Osama alive. A hasty ditching of the body sounds like something little lenin would have ordered to try to put the matter to rest, and cut of inquiries. Bury the evidence. Now it will be harder for the opposition to demand an inquiry; all they will have will be hero Seals, which won’t make for good theatre. If they had Osama’s body, they could make a stong play that it was a potus-ordered assassination.
There are also reports now about the debate whether or not to release pictures. I don’t think there will be any, unless they have shots that make it look like he was taken out in a firefight.
The double tap is a big problem for the Liar in Chief. If somebody in the mainstream catches onto that, either the LIC ordered it or he has to blame America’s greatest heros.
I expect to see the double tap story discredited today by the LIC’s minions, if it hasn’t already been so.
We’ll just have to wait to get the truth from Colbert, or Saturday Night Live.
Maybe we can goad Trump to get the death certificate?
Agreed – the burial at sea bothers me. I can understand a sea burial AFTER a video and photo recording; that could all have taken place in one day. But – we have nothing. No evidence. As I said, the DNA samples aren’t evidence for we have no evidence of the time and place of the sampling.
Who benefits most from this ‘death-announcement’? Obama.
As I said – I consider Osama (whew, the b and s are quite something)..has been dead for quite a number of years, based on the lack of any evidence of his being alive – video, photos, evidence of leadership.
But, I take as a given, that Obama is a manipulative pathological liar, focused only on Himself and his control over You. That means You, the Electorate. Obama is in deep electoral trouble; his domestic and foreign policies are disastrous; the economy is sinking; gas prices, jobs..all disastrous. His foreign dithering and running and insults..yet another disaster.
So, a number of us here and elsewhere did comment and wonder: what crisis would Obama come up with to EMOTIONALLY awake the electorate, bind them to him as Him, the Messiah? Obama’s recent rhetoric has been ignored, not merely his hopeandchange, but his WTF Winning The Future.
Ahhh…but now, we have the perfect emotional tactic. Obama the Messiah. He kills Bin Laden. Obama being Obama has claimed all credit; his use of ‘I, my, me’..are tripping over themselves to be included in his self-glorification. So, now, he’s got the limelight. Removing it from anyone else..including Trump.
And, now, comes the retaliation…of the Al Qaeda against Americans. Does Obama care? No. That’s the price you people, the electorate, must pay to set up an emotional electoral strategy…to Elect Obama the Savior.
I remain sceptical, cynical…I’ve never, ever seen Obama give an honest speech, an honest report, take an ethical action, work within principles and integrity. Never.
Obama is pure manipulation..and I can’t see that this Crisis-For-Obama’s-Re-election is anything but: Pure Manipulation.
Not showing pictures is a humongous mistake. Now Osama will become a legend. It cannot be stated too strongly how stupid that is.
The POTUS can’t have it both ways. I blame Bush. Thanks GW.
I have mixed emotions,………I heard Jerry Rivers say ‘Obama is dead’, and I started crying,…….tears of joy, obviously. Oh well, second best is plenty good.
i noticed that freudian slip as well
I’m saving that clip on a flash drive to publish during the 2012 campaigning.
Thank you Seals !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Honor to the Heroes !
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curious how all the lefties come here to celebrate, albeit in their universal bush sucks fashion, the lefty blogs must be condemning the “attack” as unjust american imperialism that did not follow the “rules”
To all of those who are pushing Obozo’s success: Give us a break. The “Anointed One” had nothing whatsoever to do with the end result, although every politician in the country will be claiming a share of the success. 10 years of technological development and perserverance by our great military are the ONLY reason the criminal was found. He was in Afghanistan protected by the Taliban when we went in and ran to Pakistan when we got close with those troops many of you say were unnecessary but were at the time because we didn’t have all of the new tech stuff. But I guess this just proves P.T. Barnum was right those many years ago.
is there anything to the rumor that bin Laden had recently started demanding that little lenin publish his college transcripts?
does anybody know where Donald Trump is today?
This report says bin Laden was done in by a double tap to the head:
That’s not death in a fire fight, that’s an execution.
If true, doesn’t it mean one of two things:
1. obama ordered an assasination
2. The Seals didn’t follow orders
Surely, the Make Believe Media will be clearing that up for us very soon.
All Americans should be saying a prayer of thanksgiving for President Obama and our incredible military personnel. At last, Bin Laden is gone.
SIGNS OF OBAMA KILLING OSAMA
Click my name to read my piece on the signs that prefigured bin Laden’s death under Obama.
You are just a vile and disgusting human being!
The “reply” link doesn’t seem to be working at this time.
Here’s a comment from another blog: I think he’s got some very good points.
1. We send Commandos into a friendly country without their knowledge and stage a 40+ minute firefight in a compound less than an hour from Pakistan’s capitol city.Three Choppers, including a Chinook flew
undetected (As reported) nearly 200 miles through Pakistani airspace ending up 35 miles from the Capitol.
2. This action comes on the heels of Donald Trump announcing he will run for President in 2012
3. Complete details of the raid, including SPECIFIC military units,details on every single casualty without a SINGLE U.S casualty?
4. Commandos have time during an intense 40+ firefight to pinpoint their specific target,and get close enough for a “Double tap” then move his body from inside a room in a fortified compound to choppers during a sandstorm? Also, have time to verify the identities of EVERY person killed or injured during this “intense firefight”?
5. Quickly exit the country, once again, flying undetected another 200 miles AFTER the Pakistani command MUST have been alerted to military action happening 35 miles from the capitol using Choppers which do NOT possess “stealth capabilities”
6. Extract DNA,verify the results against prior cell samples,take photos then fly his body hundreds of miles and toss his body into the ocean, all within 24 hours????????????
7. I’m NOT saying this couldnt happen or didnt happen but if something smells fishy, it usually is.
There HAS to be more to this than meets the eye (or,in this case,ears
Going with the scenario given, It seems to me that the man killed could be a “patsy” (Lord I hope not), but only under one critical condition. 0 would have to know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the bin son of a 8!tc# was dead.
The first video that popped up with him on it would be slightly problematic.
I think a long time ago bin Ladin lost his right to have any type of “proper” Muslim ceremony or prayers of any type over his body. Toss him out like trash. Still better than the terrorists’ time-honored propensity to drag dead American bodies through the streets, hold up their severed heads, etc.
To hell with Muslim requirements to bury him within 24 hours. None of his victims on Sept. 11, 2001 were granted their religious druthers.
I liked someone’s suggestion soon after 9/11 that bin Laden be dropped alive and tied to a pig from a plane flying over Ground Zero. I must admit, I would feel sorry for the pig, having to die with Satan’s Spawn. Maybe a football would have done the trick.
A necklace of pickled pigs feet would be apropos.
Reading these comments just makes me dumber and dumberer. You people are all crazy. The US made a committment to capture and kill this SOB and WE did it. Obama didnt do it by himself and Bush didnt fail by himself. I promise myself not to read these anymore. Ohhhh and now I am soooooo convinced to vote for Obama because he killed Osama. NOT.
Good article here on Osama bin Laden killing and possible photo of Navy Seal Team 6 photo here: Navy Seals kill Osama bin Laden
It’s difficult to believe that Obama would be stupid enough to take credit for Osama’s death unless he has absolute knowledge of Osama’s demise or he has total control over him in a secret place of detention. Nonetheless, it doesn’t take a genius to realize that the whole thing was a farce. Either Osama was already on a slab waiting to be picked up by our guys, or he was really shot and killed in his bedroom, is actually irrelevant. The fact is that nine years ago Osama fled Afghanistan into Pakistan and has been hiding there successfully ever since. The Pakistani government and Osama’s rival faction leaders gave him up. The DNA bubbamises is a feeble attempt to divert attention from the real story that Osama’s people fingered him. But Obama needed the drama because his approval ratings have been in the toilet. Getting rid of the body, claiming to have DNA verification, classified video footage and photographs and then refusing to show this so-called evidence leads me to conclude that if they had Osama’s body it was already decomposed to the extent that everyone could see that Osama had been dead for much more than a couple of hours.
I hope they wrapped him in pig fat before consigning him to the deep.
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