One Nation Under Obama
Ultimately, this allows him to dismiss Christianity’s ethical claims on the life of the believer altogether. This was clear when he spoke about the tensions between his pro-abortion stance and Christianity at the Call to Renewal Conference in 2006: “Democracy demands that … religiously motivated [individuals] translate their concerns into universal rather than religion-specific values.”
This is also how Obama sidestepped the implications of his support for abortion when giving Notre Dame’s commencement address. He made it sound like the pro-abortion and anti-abortion positions are just two viable positions that Christians can hold. While he admitted that these two positions flow from “views … [which] are complex and even contradictory … [and] irreconcilable,” he wisely avoided the use of smaller but more important words such as “right” and “wrong,” and asked that members of the “irreconcilable” factions “honor the consciences” of those with whom they disagree on the abortion issue. Never mind that this tactic allowed him to continue down the path of supporting abortion without having to explain why he supports it or to justify his use of taxpayer dollars to fund the practice.
But how dare we expect the great and powerful Obama to explain himself, as if he too were a mere serf or subject, or even a run-of-the-mill politician from days gone by?
When it comes to economics, Obama’s mode of operation is similar to that which he uses when talking to religious universities and Christian congregations. Therefore, although he’s only been in office since January 20, 2009, he’s been able to move at a speed that disorients those he can’t convert and has succeeded in the quasi-nationalization of many banks, financial institutions, and the American auto industry. He’s openly setting his sights on our health care system now, which means the Latin American communist leaders who asked Obama to join their war against capitalism should feel encouraged that things are going their way here in the United States.
Of course, Obama always says government bailouts (takeovers) are just temporary and that he only resorts to them as a last-ditch effort to save the economy. But the fact that he has that cheese-eating grin on his face every time he announces more government involvement seems dubious.
In fact, in a style which only a two-bit revolutionary could love, the always-grinning Obama acts then explains or at best acts while explaining, so that by the time his explanation comes through it’s too late to do much more than go along with him. This is the epitome of what the late Harvard Professor Crane Brinton communicated in his book The Anatomy of Revolution, when he wrote of how extremists like Vladimir Lenin and Josef Stalin (and Obama) cannot wait until people share their views before acting, but must act and trust that the people will eventually see why the action was necessary to further the revolution.
The bottom line is this: Forget the “one nation under God” stuff and understand that for the foreseeable future we are to consider ourselves “one nation under Obama.” The quicker we figure this out, the easier the adjustment is going to be for us all.
Hmmmm. Now I think I know why he will not produce his birth certificate.
His real name is Nehemiah Scudder Obama.
He expects to be known as The First Prophet Obama.
Old Man Heinlein warned us of his type. An American dictator will NOT be a military man on horseback. If we ever do get such a devilspawn
it will be some mesmerizing preacherman.
We are getting a little too close for comfort.
I’ve heard what he thinks about Jesus Christ. He is *NOT* a Christian. (if everything he actually does (as opposed to says) has left anyone with doubt.)
People with traditional principles are primed to recognize this kind of con man. Leftists and those with incohate principles are not.
“Leftists and those with incohate principles are not.”
One either assents their mind and will to the very concept of eternal principles—or ultimately they will be seduced into nihilism. Human beings are inherently religious. They will either opt for traditional ways to express these needs, or they will choose some sort of “anti-christ.” Barack Obama is taking full advantage of our increasingly secularist culture.
I thought that the media already proclaimed him as the Messiah?
Obama’s days are numbered by how long it takes to crack the spoiled rotten idiots that put him into office.
Already there are signs of hope. Everywhere you go people are helplessly watching their hopes, dreams, lives and future being crushed, pulverized and smashed.
They don’t yet understand why, but they see that the chaos, damage and wreckage extends around the world into every country and nation, large or small.
Such is the influence and power of an American President. Especially one that fancies himself to be as important and untouchable as Obama does.
Today (except for the MSM) the in-your-face loud mouth liberal voices that spit into your face little more than 3 months ago are largely silent.
Instead of demanding that we pray for our President, they’re busy asking God to save what’s left of their sorry asses from him.
And last, in a way the saddest and the worst part of the story of Mr. Obama is the carnage and destruction that he alone has inflicted on the truly gentle and God fearing majority of his own race that trusted him with their entire heritage.
“Barack Obama . . . wants to rule rather than represent and to dictate rather than debate”
And what did Bush and Cheney did? Just that. Always hiding and making stupid decisions.
“The bottom line is this: Forget the “one nation under God” stuff and understand that for the foreseeable future we are to consider ourselves “one nation under Obama.””
We are not “one nation under God”, we are “one nation under many gods”. That’s why religion should be separated from government. They are two different animals.
But the statement “one nation under Obama” is already true: he’s the President. But making it look religious is plain asinine.
damn, hawkins, this is some whiny stuff.
Thank you for bringing this article to our attention.
Oh My Goodness!
Just sharing his message with us on this board have healed my hemorrhoids.
Now if we can just get him to say something from the heart.
Nice job AWR. Now we’re getting down to what’s really going on.
You’re right on. He’s put the country under his spell of constant cognitive dissonance. (Cognitive dissonance–”the feeling of uncomfortable tension which comes from holding two conflicting thoughts in the mind at the same time.”)
Good points:
>O “has been wise enough to war against those values in the name of those values, thus disorienting those whom he can’t intellectually disarm.”
>”But how dare we expect the great and powerful Obama to explain himself, as if he too were a mere serf or subject, or even a run-of-the-mill politician from days gone by?”
>”..he’s been able to move at a speed that disorients those he can’t convert.”
All classic Marxism. Their goal is to change our perception of reality so we can’t come to sensible conclusions in order to defend ourselves and our families. Insidious stuff.
The only principle the Marxist subversive technique holds is that we mustn’t discriminate. About anything. It’s like an acid of valuelessness that corrodes everything. The wicked left, media and PC movement set us up for it and now they’re cashing in.
BTW, when you said,
“Of course, Obama always says government bailouts (takeovers) are just temporary and that he only resorts to them as a last-ditch effort to save the economy. But the fact that he has that cheese-eating grin on his face every time he announces more government involvement seems dubious.”
You forgot to mention that when they offer to pay the money back they won’t take it. But so true about the grin–it’s evil. Not to mention the giggles.
And still no public uproar. THAT’S what’s freaky. A very strange mode of still observation.
The public is numbed like an insect bitten by the spider and now all they have to do is keep spinning their web till we can’t move at all. Then it’s dinner time.
…but not all Americans will “go quietly in the night”….
I hope I am wrong. Since Obama came to the forefront, I have always believed he uses religion as he used Reverend Wright, et al. I see no conviction when he utters: God bless America, and other similar phrases.
I would not want to be in the skin of those who voted for him, and now, understanding their mistake, experience a hangover. A few are honest about it, many do not want to raise the issue.
As for me, I would have voted for Humpty Dumpty if necessary, but never for this fraud.
I am getting real tired of writers who I respect acting like “we better get used to it” or “nothing can be done” about these assaults on our freedoms.
There is plenty we can do and weak sisters like this writer need to grow a pair.
I will never submit, never just go along.
I have always wondered what the Baby Boomers generation would be asked to do. No great war, no Great Depression. Well, ladies and gentlemen this is it, it is our job to educate our countrymen to this assault on their rights, to point out the difference between right and wrong (abortion is a great place to start) and to make the writings of our Founders our new Oprah instead of listening to the MSM.
The fights not over, hell…it’s just begun. what are you afraid of?
Who is he kidding. He is most certainly a Muslim. He just could not say so and get elected
You nailed it, Dave.
TANSTAAFL!
(About time to bring out Simon Jester dontcha think?)
I vote we go back to the days of stoning adulterers. love live conservative christianity.
I don’t want Obama and/or the government:
Controlling my health care.
Telling me what size and kind vehicle to drive.
What low carbon-producing foods to eat.
Adding a national tax to my already-high tax bills.
Assuring me a Latina woman with a experienced background is best for blind justice decisions.
I want a democracy where I control my own health care, drive a vehicle I want, eat what I want, pay reasonable taxes and know the Supreme Court cares about the rich, as well as the poor, hence the oath the justice takes.
Obama is ruining this country, not improving it. He’s silenced the Clintons, naming every minority he can to positions and dictating corporate behavior/dealership closures without letting the economy do it naturally. He’s got his hand into too many pies and those pies will soon rot.
I’m a 60-year-old woman who has worked for a good income. My three white sons are now discriminated against more than anyone else in this country. For the first time in my life, I’m ashamed of my country and fear for any freedom we’ve had. Kathy in Yorktown, Virginia.
Obama needs to bone up on the life and times of Mussolini. Maybe he can avoid the same fate, …..but I doubt it.
“One nation under Obama with acorns and card checks and reeducation for all”
Repeat after me, “Obama is my shepherd …
Welcome to Obamatopia.
Is not “Democracy demands that … religiously motivated [individuals] translate their concerns into universal rather than religion-specific values”, the long translation of, “Go ahead Eve, eat it”?
Obama is correct. People can hold any position or have any opinions they want, some of them totally un-Christian and still claim to be Christian. They can also be Marxists and claim to love liberty. Every guilty man in prison claims innocence. Claims are for the easily duped.
“The bottom line is this: Forget the ‘one nation under God’ stuff and understand that for the foreseeable future we are to consider ourselves ‘one nation under Obama.’ The quicker we figure this out, the easier the adjustment is going to be for us all.”
DH and I have absolutely no intention of adjusting:)
“The president is co-opting whatever he needs to remake this country. Why not religion too?”
He’s working his way down the list! Be patient! Just hasn’t gotten there yet.
Expect to see details emerging regarding favorable and unfavorable lists within the larger list of “religions”. Islam will be fine. Wicca will be fine. Even liberal Protestantism (within which Wicca and Islam are considered fine) will be fine.
What will NOT be fine will be Biblical Christianity which adheres to John 14:6 in which Jesus Christ said, “I am the way, the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father but by me.”
So the rule of thumb will be this: if there is NOT room in your religion for including him as one more god (at the top), then there will be no room for your religion (in this “one nation under God”).
We live in interesting times.
Remember when Alberto Gonzales fired a few lawyers in the justice department and the press and the democrats forced him to resign eventually?
Remember when Trent Lott complimented Strom Thurmond at one of old Strom Thurmond’s last birthday parties and the Press and Democrats twisted the remarks to be racial and forced Trent to give up his leadership of the Senate?
Remember when the press and the Democrats were outraged that Bush was wiretapping Terrorist conversations – where BOTH ENDS of the conversation were overseas and only the communication line between the two passed through the U.S.???
And we’ve gone from that – TO REAL ABUSES OF POWER. Government in the Auto business – rewarding it’s political allies. Government in the Financial business – rewarding it’s political allies. A Nation Bankrupt – the fruits of our progeny spent before they are even born. A White House that threatens to use the press to DESTROY it’s enemies. A White House with an “enemies list” – that attacks private citizens for their political views.
What’s just amazing to me is the way the press has helped to facilitate this – and excuse this – and they aren’t even on the government payroll like pravda is.
We are sunk folks. Sunk – unless someone stands up before it’s too late.
Not likely – since now the GOP elites are turning on the Conservatives who are willing to fight – like Limbaugh, Tancredo – and others.
They turned their back on Sarah Palin long ago.
Depressing.
Don’t be fooled for one second. Obama may say he’s a Christian, but his actions against our country say something very different.
This guy is a clear and present danger to our country and our way of life.
President Obama is a true Cult of Personality just like the Reverend Jim Jones, Charles Manson, Adolph Hitler, Mussolini, etc al; however, like all cults, they eventually crash & burn. President Obama’s cult will be no different.
“Though this be madness, yet there is a method in’t” William Shakespeare.
Obama wants to be worshipped – there’s no doubt about that. And he does demand unflinching loyalty. We are in big trouble if we don’t find a way to wake people up on this.
mejor pedir perdon, que permiso. better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission. oops my bad. co opting is his forte and so is handing over the bag for someone else to hold. i wondered what he meant when he spoke of the lipstick on a pig. whats the difference between ham and eggs? the chicken is involved and the pig is committed. we are out of money and we need to spend more, democracy demands you give up your voice, infanticide is a moral choice, this is what i’m hearing coming from the big O. these are sweet words spilling out, but they just don’t pass the smell test.
Well said, njcommuter.
“Obama the most merciful,” as Rush likes to say. Good article AWR. He has no problem co-opting religion. Whatever it takes to be sure we look to him as much as he looks to himself.
All DohBama needs is the sleazy sharkskin suit to complete his livin’ large and in charge look. I still don’t understand why people have been bowled over with the supposed ‘charisma’ of DohBama. I’ve always been completely skeeved out by this one way ticket charlatan.
What brought us the big DOH?
Insanity?
Stupidity?
White guilt?
Black pride?
Ignorance?
The MSM?
Fraud?
AOTA?
Allah be praised, Allah Akbar !!! It has been prophesied: “And a false messiah shall lead them, and the multitudes will follow blindly into damnation, and there will be much weeping and crying out.” Allah Akbar !!!
As Pharaoh used to say – “So let it be written, so let it be done.” Substitute the word Pharaoh with Obama (or “Dear leader”, your choice) and you have it all here. The irony of all this is that all of this was visible before the election. All it required was an intelligent electorate who could read and understand the issues, and take appropriate action. Alas, that was a miserable failure. There is plenty of blame to spread around in all directions so no one person or group has to take it all, but the primary failure was the failure of the American public to set aside their daily pablum they receive from the big three television networks, or their local newspapers, and exercise their gray matter to think and ask, who is this guy, what does he represent, and is his style of government good for the country. This is another wake up call in a long line of wake up calls that have already been written since the election. Remember – all it takes for failure is for enough good men to do nothing !!!
Great piece. It annoys me to no end that he takes anti-Christian positions while talking about his “faith” – what is his faith if not self-worship?
Yes, our hypnotic president has been very diligent in the pursuit of his utopian convictions, but let’s not forget he has been equally swift and effective in provoking an unprecedented wave a protest. On the decibel scale, the tea partiers are no match for the advocates of sublime social justice, but they have reason, patience and integrity, all rooted in solid values. They know a fake when they see one.
“Barack Obama has long been known for his socialistic convictions and messianic tendencies.”
So much stupidity in the first sentence.
“And while he may not come right out and say it, he expects us to pledge allegiance to him.”
Miss Cleo, is that you?
“Therefore, it was as easy for him to skip the National Day of Prayer on May 7, 2009″
Just like those atheists Bush, Reagan, and Bush.
“and open the door to the legalized killing of “days-old unborn children”"
Those unborn children who are currently in freezers awaiting disposal? They are clearly children because you freeze and thaw them just like you can a toddler. QED.
But how dare we expect the great and powerful Obama to explain himself, as if he too were a mere serf or subject, or even a run-of-the-mill politician from days gone by?
Unfortunately, the position Barack Obama holds is feeding his megalomania, day in and day out.
Edmund Burke had Obama pegged in the 18th century
The One is a malignant narcissist who is fueled by the adoration of others and his own joy in manipulating others. When we the people, including his true believers, finally stop adoring and we refuse to be further manipulated, we shall see the One exhibit incredible narcissistic rage as the One attempts to throw all of us under the bus. For men and women like the One, once a person’s or a people’s utility and pliability is lost, he or they must either be destroyed or discarded.
Co-opting religion for power . . . co-opting religion for power . . . why hasn’t anybody else thought of this before?
Let’s say that “I am not worried” by all this, because I know that socialism will fail.
What worries me is what this kind of person will do when he will meet real opposition.
Until now he has governed by ukase, without THE NEED to face any opposition.
What happens if the GOP wakes up ?
What happens if some Democrats begin understanding where we are going ?
What happens if the tea parties grow to a real political size ?
Will we all be labeled “enemies of the people” ?
What will be the role of the inner cities ?
What will be the role of the mass of the illegals ?
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
HWR Hawkins,I wish I had said that. You are right or we both are wrong.
SATIRE
Notre Dame may have the last laugh. The Catholic University gave President Obama an honorary degree when he gave the commencement address there. It reads Barak Obama,DDB. It is not some kind of doctor of divinity or doctor of denistry degree. It means Doctor of Dead Babies.
His O-liness.
Obama’s Chicago church was a perfect fit for him, a black supremacy club that lapped up hatred against other races and promoted America’s enemies. He is said to have attended there to gain credibility. No, he was right at home. Christian in name only. He’s Marxist to the core, which not only means atheist, but an avowed enemy to all religion and anyone who might obstruct the emerging dictatorship.
We were warned that false christs and false christians would arise. Well, right now they are everywhere. The fastest growing cult in this country puts ‘Jesus Christ’ right in their overly long name. St. John gave us the test of a true Christian. It is not complex. As well Christ told us we would know men by their fruit, their product. There is no mystery here really.
I regularly run into seeming nice people who will openly tell me how much they despised Sarah Palin. What disguised blackness must lurk in such a heart. And they believe they are justified in making such statements about this very good woman. To look upon such honest goodness and loving openness as exemplified by Sarah and hate it. Surely the separation of the sheep from the goats to come will be a wonder and an awful awakening.
Obama is a symptom. Our land, our nation, is very ill. The cancer has now reached that point where it is rapidly overwhelming the country’s immune system. We are staring death in the face and we must hang unto our faith with all our strength and believe in our personal salvation. It is after all … all there is.
Mr. Hawkins, thanks for a very good summary of the orientation of our Dear Leader. The only point I take exception to is your reference several times to his ability to “disorient.” As #3, says, those paying attention are not fooled. It is safe to say that if you filter everything he says 180 degrees out of phase, then you will be in the neighborhood of understanding what this clown is really up to.
What really saddens me is so many in our country’s leadership who have sold out our country for a liberal orientation that is going to cost us all, and the world, a whole lot of pain before anything gets better.
Great article. It seems history shows that Totalitarians slowly take over every aspect of society which means eventually the Church as well. In only 5 months President Obama is influencing the banks, auto industry and housing market. Once he has control over the economy it is natural that he will go after the only institution that can appeal to an objective truth beyond his Administration. This is even more troubling since the Religious Left are already calling him our Pastor in Chief. God help us.
Beatitude gone awry.
Who in their right mind would have thought that the USA would end up being p0wned by China? CHINA?! WTF? Melanin in the baby formula China? Toxic wheat China? Poisoned wheat gluten pet food CHINA?
NK nukin’ it up. Iran too? Giving up on Israel? Apologist in Chump?
Gallows guffaws? New ‘cyber czar’? Where’s the money to get that idiotic crap off the ground going to come from?
We are in big mutha f*cking trouble!
Off the charts and off the rails INSANITY.
39. Sherab Zangpo,
Yes, but how many people will suffer because of that failure? We are talking generations beyond our own lifetimes here. Not cool.
Oh, and lest I forget…
TOXIC painted TOYS from CHINA.
-And, the hilarity of it all is that China has no intention of ‘going green’.
What a sad, sad, sad idiocracy we are living in.
As long as words have the meaning that the perfidious and nefarious mountebank in the Oval Office wants them to have,
watch out for devastation.
Thank God I have a Canadian passport.
Obama most merciful, please save us from the ravages of socialism and communism, from the threats of dictatorship and tyranny. Obama most merciful, please spare us, your people, the burden of high taxes and gun confiscation. Most merciful Obama, as a means of upholding your oath of office please provide us with supreme court justices who honor the Constitution of this great nation. Great and powerful Obama, why do I feel my supplications to you are falling on deaf ears?
Keep in mind nearly half the people who voted in the 2008 election voted against Obama, and he is steadily losing supporters. He is not as popular as the Democrat News Media wants to make people believe he is.
Obama frightens me, plan and simple. But the people who allow him to carry on unchecked frighten me even more – their ignorance frightens me. For Obama is a fraud and a nation-wrecker, but the masses seem overwhelmed by words and that “cheese-eating grin.”
#50 Bonner
You lack the necessary faith.
Back to re-education camp (a.k.a.: watching TV newscasts).
Thank you for the opportunity to comment
30. Delia: “What brought us the big DOH?’
IMHO, white guilt, influence by the MSM, and a small cadre of very wealthy, influential libs, including George Soros.
Well I see us going towards more communism than Socialism. How many CZARS does he have now? 14 or 15? do people understand what the problem with this is? This is all a power grab. These CZARS do not answer to the people, they are not elected officials, it has expanded Government, and they do not have to answer to Congress. If there is a Scam that is caused, or someone does something illegal, they do NOT HAVE TO ANSWER TO CONGRESS, because they only answer to the White House. This is scarie business. He has a CZAR for Flowers. What is that? now he wants a CyberSecurity CZAR. Personally why do we have Homeland Security. That should all follow under there.
Also too with regard to the Census. Under the Constitution you are to be counted. There has always been a long form, that wasn’t mandatory to fill out. Now it is mandatory to fill out and if you don’t there is a 5,000 dollar fine, plus possible jail time. This form asks how many times you flush to what kind of car you drive and if you were in the military. The military question bothers me because of the National Security Memo she says she retracted, about Military being Right Wing Extrmists Terrorists. If you Falsify an answer it is a 500 dollar fine.
Also too with the Census being in the control of the White House, under Emmanuel, does any one understand that ramifications of this problem? It is to make sure he stays in power when the districts are realigned. Using ACORN to help count, can skew the count towards minorities, like Hispanics, Muslims, and so forth. Which then can cause the districts to be realigned differently. This then would cause another power grab to make sure he stays put. Then if after this Census a Constitutional Convention is called to recall the part of the President being under term limits, to let him serve as often as he wants, then where will we be?
None of this is speculation in my eyes. This is all serious business. This is a Man, who is NOT A CHRISTIAN. A CHRISTIAN, WOULD NOT KILL INNOCENT BABIES AND ADVOCATE SO HIGHLY FOR IT, and WOULD NOT SUPPORT LGBT, and advocate for everything that goes against God and what HE stands for.
People you are witnessing the beginnings of a possible Dictatorship.
vivo:
You Castro-lover, go troll somewhere else. You are a Huffington post kind of guy. I could not post a single line on that shameful post, but you can come here and sow dissent because this is a decent outfit.
Shove your Obama. The US is One Nation under God, you idol-worshiper, there is only one God: Brahman Ekam Eva Advitiyam: God is One without a Second.
Let me quote, with a twist, J. Fenimore Cooper in “The Last of the Mohicans”: Obama is your president, I am not subject to much at all.
Why don’t you get together with your pal Sean Penn and emigrate to Cuba, to the Cuban paradise of Fidel.
“You Castro-lover, go troll somewhere else.”
It is better to ignore vivo. This individual is similar to the spoiled three year old trying to attract attention. You have unwittingly rewarded him/her by your response.
#56 MiamaMan
“there is only one God: Brahman Ekam Eva Advitiyam: God is One without a Second”
And I would comment:
Shema Yisrael Adonai Eloheinu Adonai Echad.
One Teaching, One Tradition, many languages.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
54. bobbcat:
“IMHO, white guilt, influence by the MSM, and a small cadre of very wealthy, influential libs, including George Soros.”
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True dat. -And, the way DohBama is living large and party hardying like it’s 1999 is a clear indication that he’s far removed from reality. Orchids anyone?
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55. Karen,
Excellent post. How many times do we have to repeat the truth to get the truth out though? I’m willing to be a repeater if it helps. I’m sickened by the gall of this current administration…absolute GALL. People are falling apart financially and DohBama appoints a new ‘cyber czar’? Punch drunk indeed! WTF? We need to tackle the BIG issues right now, dipwad! NOT cyber whatever, tardo.
I seriously want to throw a shoe at DohBama. I bet he would’t be as deft at ducking as Bush was. he-he
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Wow, paranoia to the extreme! So tell me, when do you resort to violence? Soon probably. Those of you judging his Christianity, you’d best look to your own walk. God will judge, not you.
60. A Dave,
Nice skirting of the issues at hand.
Are you actually HAPPY with the way our country is heading? ARE YOU?
The President gives no evidence that he espouses Christian belief other than his “say so.” Rather aetheism or agnosticism appears to be his position. No one claiming to accept Cristian values could have been a regular attendant at the so called “Reverend” Wright’s church. Indeed there is nothing about the conduct of Reverend Wright which demonstrates that he is a Christian. To the contrary his emphasis is on political action, something which Jesus Christ avoided at all cost. When asked by Jewish leaders if it was lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, Christ used a coin with the image of Caesar. He asked those present whose image was on the coin? They responded “Caesar’s”. Christ’s reply: “Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and to God the things that are God’s.”
vivo:
“We are not ‘one nation under God’, we are ‘one nation under many gods’.”
As a matter of fact, because of people like you leftists and your identity politics, we are now actually “many nations under many gods” who just happen to live in geographical proximity. And we need to include in those many gods and religions the ones you worship too – like Karl Marx, the environment, atheism, feminism, and many more, including Obama himself now.
We are no longer the United States of America, where we all are Americans first. Illegals wave the Mexican flag, Muslims want to marry children and impose Shariah law, Harold Koh wants international law to trump our Constitution, Hollywood claims that they will move overseas if Republicans win (but never follow through unfortunately), “journalists” play “blame America first”, etc. This is madness.
Maybe Obama was actually right when he said we have 57 states, the original 50 plus the other de facto nations that partly overlap the various state boundaries.
There is some really nasty confrontation coming between left and right.
Idolatry and pagan rituals have been fused with Christianity of all odd things.
Christ and the Easter Bunny?
Christ and Santa Claus?
Works and deeds instead of humility and acceptance?
There is no such thing as a ‘perfect’ Christian to be sure but there are also plenty of false prophets who have nothing to do with humility or God.
60. Dave: “God will judge, not you.”
He will judge BO as well. I can hardly wait.
And no, that doesn’t mean I wish him dead, because I do not. So don’t even go there!
“And what did Bush and Cheney did? Just that. Always hiding and making stupid decisions.”
The actions of Bush and Cheney in no way excuse the actions of Obama. Typical leftist tactic, changing the subject to “Bush and Cheney” instead of actually trying to defend your great leader.
“Those of you judging his Christianity, you’d best look to your own walk. God will judge, not you.”
You can’t call yourself a Christian if you don’t follow the Dogma of Christianity, just like you can’t call yourself a Muslim if you don’t accept Muhammed as the last prophet and pray to the east 5 times a day, and just like you can’t call yourself a supporter of free markets if you follow Obama.
Well, that’s not completely accurate. You can call yourself whatever you want. It’s just not true.
Pride comes before the fall. And this one is going to be spectacular.
43. Scott: “We are staring death in the face and we must hang unto our faith with all our strength and believe in our personal salvation. It is after all … all there is.”
Faith is all good, of course, but for it to have any real significance towards saving our hides while we walk God’s good earth, that faith must be channelled through actions. Ways must be devised to achieve towards the goal of having as few as possible of this man’s policies ever seeing the light of day. This means a regular pattern of communicating with one’s particular Senators and Representatives on the subject of just which policies are wrong and why. This means getting into the face of the MSM to as a great a degree as possible (write and/or talk to the talking heads, go to tea parties, etc.) to have your voice heard. Many people don’t pay attention. It’s imperative to shake them awake……………
Barry Soetoro clearly is no fool and he pursues with much cunningness his designs – yet there is a curious component in his psychology, that is, a large amount of naivity.
It is impossible not to remark his sincerity when he comes with “The Europeans see in me…” type-of assessments… it is impossible not to see this in his accepting otherwise trappings and decorum (remember the Oppossum thing?)…
it is impossible not see this in his propensity to physically surround himself with prestige enhancers like the absurd line of admirals and ministers who lined up behind him listen to his pronouncements…
it is impossible not to see this in his countless, camel-like neighing photos when he reacts to flattery – and obviously, such a narcissistic type wouldn’t be shocked if some dilligent cohorts would decree him a true god.
Once I came upon an older photo of him being enthroned (on a, well, real throne) in a facy garb, wearing crown in that church he used to attend in Chicago – beaming he was and I couldn’t detect on his face any sign of being even slightly embarrassed by that absurdity.
Since then, I associate his trajectory with Caligula’s career.
“You Castro-lover, go troll somewhere else. You are a Huffington post kind of guy. I could not post a single line on that shameful post, but you can come here and sow dissent because this is a decent outfit.”
Please ask an adult before using the internet.
we are all adults here, instead, your diapers smell bad, time to call the nanny
Ya know what I think is really funny? Obambi is talking about and making every effort to bring about change to our country and the liberals are cheering him on with every step. Yee haw they chant in unison…more government, more handouts, more taxes, squash conservative talk radio and on and on the liberals just can’t get enough of Obambi, pushing and jostling each other to get closer to him, drooling slavishly and mesmerized by his greatness. What’s really funny is that after Obambi is done screwing the conservatives and rearranging the country the liberals are next on the hit list. Now that freakin funny. And what’s even funnier is that the liberals don’t get it.
68. Frank – Yes exactly and as to your last statement, that kind of newspeak spreads to all areas of life until nothing means what it used to mean, if it means anything at all. As far as politics go, propagandists, spin doctors and strategists from all parties are to blame for these distortions of reality. Obama has merely mastered the process. Of course, now we are guilty of thought crime.
Delia–I agree, cyber czar? I want a teleprompter czar.
Obama has been good for religion–I pray every day that he will either go away or get better ideas. I pray for the people who are being harmed by his lousy economic (non)plan. I pray for the people who are invisible to him. I pray that he will care about something other than himself. Mostly, I pray for our country. For our safety. For our future.
For the sake of correct definitions, Socialism is the government seizure of ownership of private businesses., i.e. nationalization.
Facism is government seizure of control of private property, i.e., thoroughgoing bureaucratic regulation of business which retains on a Potemkin-like facade of private ownership.
Fascism is the authoritarian imposition of raw,naked government power – guns and prisons – to control people’s economic lives.
From these definitions, Obama doesn’t have too much left to do to put the full weight of the power of the White House into his fascism plans. He is well on his way.
Once we have determined where he wants to take us, we have to decide if we are willing to go along with him.
Our Founders rallied under the cry of, “Give me liberty or give me death.” The motto served us well once. I believe it will serve us well again. We started giving up control of our lives under Woodrow Wilson and we now see the fulfillment of the Progressive Manifesto unfolding before our very eyes.
My advice is not to be distracted by the intentional “distractions” put out by Washington, D.C. They are meant to keep our eyes away from Obama’s real purpose.
For him, it is about power and control. The distractions are many and will keep coming. Although they are too numerous to list here, just about every event happening today is designed to cause confusion and disharmony in the public square.
Obama did not think up everything he is doing. He was carefully prepared for his presidency and knows what he wants to do. His biggest job is keeping us from doing what we know we should do. So far, he has succeeded in that aspect of his job.
“And what did Bush and Cheney did? Just that. Always hiding and making stupid decisions.”
Even if that caricature were true, Bush and Cheney proved their democratic bonafides by leaving office peacefull when their term was up. We have yet to see how our shepherd Obama and his unelected flock of Czars will behave when their term ends.
57. David Thomson:
[“You Castro-lover, go troll somewhere else.”
It is better to ignore vivo. This individual is similar to the spoiled three year old trying to attract attention. You have unwittingly rewarded him/her by your response.]
David, I know thanks, but I enjoy it anyhow, besides my suspicion that we have several things in common.
#42 Gary Ogletree
You stated it exactly as I see it. I have some training in Catholic theology, which means I can wrap my mind around concepts and doctrines beyond stale, vapid platitudes. Obama is a heretic who belongs to a heretic church. It takes someone like ME, who used to be a heretic (a Pelagian who used to fawn over Liberation Theology)to know one.
I am very angry with the way he has been manipulating my Church and all the others as well. The president of the University of Notre Dame may have a Master of Divinity degree from the Jesuit school of theology at U. Cal Berkeley, but I know a thing or two about that place (from those who attended)and had I stayed a Jesuit I would have begged my provincial to not have me study theology there. It is clear that Obama is cynically trying to co-opt religion in order to marginalize his critics.
I would be more than happy to debate Obama on theology, and whip his ass into the bargain.
HEY EVERYBODY! Aren’t you glad you have a brain and can think for yourselves. For those who voted for this dipstick, I’d like to say “thanks for ruining my children’s future”….it’s going to take decades to repeal the ruin this jackass has already inflicted on us. By the way, for those of you who still want to “Buy American”–Nissan is made in TN, Hondas are made in OH, Toyotas in TX, etc….get with the program, and Go Galt!
[72. Boris:
“You Castro-lover, go troll somewhere else. You are a Huffington post kind of guy. I could not post a single line on that shameful post, but you can come here and sow dissent because this is a decent outfit.”
Please ask an adult before using the internet.]
Благодаря “Tovarish” Борис! Я вижу, ты любишь Ленина.
Next time I will ask your permission, Cheka-NKVD-GPU-KGB, Putin Man.
Well said Hawkins. However, I think a more appropriate phrase for “…cheese eating grin…” would be “grinning like a ‘possum eating sh*t through a picket fence.” It’s a perfect characterization of the man, his methods and morals and his demeanor.
77. Sonny: “His biggest job is keeping us from doing what we know we should do.”
And what would that be? (Not wanting to leave anything to the imagination).
What has Lenin got to do with you being stupid on the internets?
In any case, please continue. The stupidity from the right is far more entertaining now that you are out of power and ideas.
TO: All
RE: Speaking of ‘Schitzie’…
….I’ve been kicked/banned at The Volohk Conspiracy for opposing Sotomayor for joining the Supremes.
My last post about that matter, at TO: All
RE: Another Spastic Moment
“Chuck: Please tell me what court exists between the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit and the Supreme Court of the United States?” — SpasticBlue
The article cites that 3 of the 5 opinions written by Sotomayer as she sat on the Federal Court of Appeals were overturned by the Supremes.
That’s a 60% failure rate. By anyone who’s math skills are better than a 3d grader.
But, if she had THAT kind of failure rate at THAT level, I have to wonder what her lower-level decisions were ‘rated’ as.
Maybe you could fill US all in.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Go fig…..
But it looks to me like THAT site has been co-opted by ‘The One’.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out....]
WASTE, FRAUD & ABUSE
What Obama big government is about.
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/05/why-bigger-government-is-bad-thing.html
TO: All
RE: If….
…they’ve suborned The Volohk Conspiracy, I suspect places like Instapundit and Pajamas Media, can’t be very far behind.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Things ARE moving VERY quickly. But The One only has until Summer of 2010 in order to lock in 'control'. After that the Election will throw the Democrats out of power in Congress.]
Never forget that The One is one extremely disturbed individual.
Imagine what your psychological profile would be like if your white mother had numerous one night stands with black men. How your hatred for both black men and white women would confuse and anger you . . . and then look in the mirror and see a black face.
Toss in a huge dose of communist indoctrination from the time you started to learn until you graduate from law school, and what have you got?
A maniac in the White House.
RE #86/88 Chuck Pelto: [...] I’ve been kicked/banned at The Volohk Conspiracy for opposing Sotomayor for joining the Supremes. [...]
Surprised, I used to see Eugene Volokh as a libertarian not a liberal enforcer – anyway, bellow is a consolation piece from Washington Times, via Town Hall, which began a SCOTUS Sotomayor Watch blog:
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“The franchise for felons/Sotomayor would let prisoners vote” Editorial, Friday, May 29, 2009
Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor wants to give jailbirds the right to vote. It’s her opinion that the federal Voting Rights Act can be used to force states to allow voting by currently imprisoned felons. Ms. Sotomayor’s dissenting opinion in a 2006 felon-voting case should make senators extremely wary of confirming her for the high court.
In Hayden v. Pataki, a number of inmates in New York state filed suit claiming that because blacks and Latinos make up a disproportionate share of the prison population, the state’s refusal to allow them ballot access amounts to an unlawful, race-based denial of their right to vote. Eight of 13 judges on the liberal-leaning Second Circuit dismissed their arguments, and the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled likewise in a similar case.
Yet, operating on a dubious and extremely broad reading of the Voting Rights Act, Ms. Sotomayor dissented from the decision. In a remarkably dismissive, four-paragraph opinion, she alleged that the “plain terms” of the Voting Rights Act would allow such race-based claims to go forward.
Judge Jose Cabranes, who like Ms. Sotomayor was appointed by President Bill Clinton, didn’t find the matter to be so clear. His majority decision against the criminal felons, in favor of the state, comprised 36 tightly reasoned pages. Particularly compelling is the fact that the Voting Rights Act was passed to help further the aims of the Constitution’s 14th and 15th Amendments. The 14th Amendment specifically allows states to deny the vote to those convicted of crimes.
Ms. Sotomayor is thus in the position of asserting that Congress can prohibit New York from doing something the Constitution itself specifically endorses. It’s as if she thinks black and Hispanic felons are convicted in order to deny them the vote, rather than that they are denied the vote as a result of being duly convicted. Her position ignores the fact that it is the convicts’ own actions, their crimes – not any state-based racial discrimination – that make those felons ineligible to vote.
As almost every state has done since the United States was founded, New York forbids currently incarcerated or paroled prisoners from voting. Some states go even farther by prohibiting some felons from voting even after they have served their sentences. New York’s law is not so stringent. It only applies to felons still under criminal sentences. It equally applies to all felons, black or white.
There is growing evidence that Judge Sotomayor believes some races are more equal than others. She said in a 2001 speech that she would expect a Latina judge to reach the right decision more often than would a white male judge. Her dissenting opinion in Hayden v. Pataki is another example of her taking racial grievance-mongering to absurd new depths. They are depths unbefitting a Supreme Court justice.
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Can you check with Volokh’s editors what is their position on this matter?
Bobbcat,
The religious right has been hard at it to influence government for more than a few decades now and what has it gotten us? A sop from Bush here and there while the banks heisted the world’s wealth. Right now I warrant prayer is the only possible thing that might influence events in this land. My prayer however is “Thy Kingdom come Lord ….
The heart of man is wicked beyond understanding.
Great piece. I hate to ruin Obama’s day, but I refuse to worship or adore him. He is a dangerous and wicked man.
Timothy Treadwell got eaten by his beloved ‘bears’.
People who lose their ability to be instinctual on a core level, a ‘primitive’ level if you will, to save their own lives has threatened the ‘new world’ of ‘green’.
What frightens me more than any nuke or dirty bomb is the fact that just one case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy can render many of us infected.
Mad cow is no joke.
And, for the germ-phobes out there…
Check your milk/cream containers for punctures before you buy.
Just sayin’
And Obama spake all these words, saying,
“I am the Blessed One, thy President, which have brought thee out of the Era of Dubya, out of the days of undignified presidential gaffes and cocktail party embarrassment.”
I. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
II. Thou shalt not make unto thee any parody image, or any uncomplimentary portrayal of me that is in the television and radio airwaves above, or that is in cyberspace beneath.
Thou shalt not laugh at them: for I, Obama thy President, am a humourless President, visiting the wrath of my Internet Trolls upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
And showing mercy unto the multitude of journalists, Hollywood celebrities, and late night comics that love me, and fawn over me as befits my Name.
III. Thou shalt not take the name of Obama thy President in vain; for the Administration of Obama shall brand him a “right wing radical” that renders not proper allegiance to his Name.
IV. Remember the Tax Day, to keep it holy.
Throughout the year shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
But the Tax Day is the sabbath to thy Government: in it thou shalt gladly and cheerfully give over the fruit of thy labor to the IRS, and shalt acknowledge that it is for thine own good:
For it is the State, not the free, industrious effort and ingenuity of the people, that hath made America great: wherefore the Government blessed the Tax Day, and hallowed it.
V. Honour thy Government: that thy prosperity may be adequate upon the land which Obama thy President permit thee.
VI. Thou shalt not Smoke.
VII. Thou shalt not listen to Conservative Talk Radio.
VIII. Thou shalt not drive SUV’s.
IX. Thou shalt be Politically Correct, and shalt train thy mind to believe that Free Expression is Hate Speech, Conscience is Intolerance, Uniformity is Diversity, Two and Two make Five, War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength.
X. Thou shalt not covet wealth or prosperity for thyself, or seek to improve thy lot in life: but shalt instead feel guilty for taking pleasure in good food and drink, air conditioning, the driving of non-hybrid vehicles, and all other things that bring joy, save watching the Government stick it to CEO’s and other fat cats.
Let’s hug it out.
I hafta warn ya’ll, I’m a blue-ribbon, bone crushin’ hugger. Oh yes I yammmmm.
Not to be confused with my husband who is an a-hole, rib breaking fat arse. Bless his heart though, I still love that sorry sap.
Obama and his handlers are all Communists. Congratulations to all you government ‘educated’ morons who elected him.
In military terms, he’s inside of our OODA (Observe, Orient, Decide, Act) loop. Bad news.
“…meet it is I set it down
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain—”
- Hamlet
There is nothing new under the sun. Obama’s actions mirror the behaviour of another “great leader”. For more, read here:
http://hyphenatedamericans.blogspot.com/2009/01/game-we-all-can-play-name-that.html
“What has Lenin got to do with you being stupid on the internets?”
lenin talked about the useful idiots, but you don’t know because you are one example.
Too bad when stupidity and ideology prevent you to know the basics of hystory.
Did you graduate at harvard? because you are surely as stupid as obama
btw, boorish, if you are here it means that your level of stupidity is even higher than ours. There is no other reason.
Thanks for unwillingly admitting your subpar brain. You leftists are so dense you don’t even realize how much
56. MiamaMan (MiamiMan?):
“You are a Huffington post kind of guy. I could not post a single line on that shameful post, but you can come here and sow dissent because this is a decent outfit. ”
Believe it or not, I have never been to the Huffington thing you mention. I’m not sowing dissent, just opening minds. And, yes, this is a decent outfit.
“The US is One Nation under God, you idol-worshiper,”
There is no god, it’s a human invention, so the idol worshiper is YOU. And I never heard of Brahman Kam Yam. Sounds like a cow’s name.
“Why don’t you get together with your pal Sean Penn and emigrate to Cuba, to the Cuban paradise of Fidel.”
I’m a citizen of the World, so my choice of “countries” and paradises is vast. Not the Miamian hellhole.
63. geokstr:
“. . . because of people like you leftists and your identity politics, we are now actually “many nations under many gods” who just happen to live in geographical proximity.”
You make it sound like it just happened. Read US history. Remember the Pilgrims? Many Europeans migrated because of religious persecution. The Protestants hated the Catholics. Now they accept their differences. How about the Jewish? And the list goes on and on until the current migration of Muslims, more Catholics, and a million other sects and atheists. The USA has been like this ALL THE TIME. So this is not “because of people like you leftists”, it’s because of people like YOU TOO!
79. MiamaMan:
“but I enjoy it anyhow, besides my suspicion that we have several things in common.”
I’m sure we have things in common: we have cojones, speak Spanish, like politics, like Latin food, probably dance well, love morenas, pero hermano tu cabeza necesita que le pongan un par de tornillos!!
TO: misanthropicus
RE: Checking with the VC
I can’t but maybe YOU could.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out....]
P.S. An interesting report about Sotomayor. Thanks…..
P.P.S. I’m wondering if someone has done some tracking on Sotomayor’s ‘opinions’ as correlated with ethnicity.
vivo, the mentally challenged
“Believe it or not, I have never been to the Huffington thing you mention. I’m not sowing dissent, just opening minds. ”
your percentage of success here is 0%, and it’s not going to improve anytime soon.
To change someone’s opinion, you need intelligence and facts. You lack both.
“I’m a citizen of the World, so my choice of “countries” and paradises is vast. ”
but most of the time is either your mother’s basement or a mental institution.
I’m not sowing dissent, just opening minds.
Oh, of course you are.
Anyone notice the arrogance that liberals always carry with themselves? Vivo is here to “open minds,” because, y’see, we’re closed-minded. If we were open minded, we’d agree with Vivo. After all, he’s a “citizen of the world.”
Maybe there is some hope:
http://theillustratedconservative.blogspot.com/2009/05/obama-is-useless.html
It’s already starting to turn. Ignore parrots like The OPM (Obama Propaganda Machine; no longer the MSM), vivo, Boris, Pastor of Muppets, sheesh, etc. They are petulant children and will never get it.
The Emperor has not clothes.
vivo:
Who give ya permission to include me in your retrograde tribe?
You say: “I’m sure we have things in common: we have cojones, speak Spanish, like politics, like Latin food, probably dance well, love morenas..”
Comuniston, ñangara, Che-Guevara-lover…I don’t like so-called “Latin food” (am vegetarian), never dance, like blondes. You little-head “cubiche”.
Moreover: “There is no god, it’s a human invention”
Really? Ateo estupido. God is everything, there is not one thing that is not God. Now I see why you can’t think straight.
85. Boris:
[What has Lenin got to do with you being stupid on the internets?]
Everything Spetznats man, syphilitic, 1/4 Jew, Lenin is the father of all commies and socialist, and we have many around here.
And you continue:
[In any case, please continue. The stupidity from the right is far more entertaining now that you are out of power and ideas.]
Thanks Putin-Man, I am learning a lot from you, ha, ha.
All these people around here crying that Obama isn’t a christian, or christian enough.. who should he be more like? Ted Haggard? Paul Crouch? Parker Bena? Ken Calvert? Need I go on…
Yep.. what roll models they are for a true conservative christian.
Tom, does your roll models come with yeast, rise, & taste good with melted butter?
TO: tom
RE: Try NOT….
….to demonstrate you raving ignorance about Christianity so blatantly.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. The answer to your question is that he should be more like Christ.
There…now….did THAT ‘help’? Or did it, as I suspect, actually offend?
110. tom,
One name response for you:
Jeremiah Wright
tom,
Point taken. However our actual role models are to be Jesus The Messiah and His Apostles. It IS unfortunate that so many Christians take fallen contemporary men as role models. If they simply read St. Paul’s, Peter’s and James writings they would not have this problem. Sinfulness is rooted so very deep in our natures and it can take The Word most of a lifetime to get to the root of it in us and extricate it.
TO: tom
RE: Out of Curiosity….
….how can a Muslim be more like Christ?
Muslims hate the idea that any ‘Man’ could claim to be the Son of God.
And Obama has admitted to being a Muslim. In a CLASSIC Freudian slip on a Sunday morning news show last Fall, before the election.
Here’s the ‘killer’ citation from that report…
Sooooooo…..
….again I ask you, how does a Muslim become more like Christ?
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out.....]
TO: All
RE: ERRATA!
Bad link, in that previous comment from me…..
HERE’S the REAL link.
My apologies….
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The only Guy I know Who was 'perfect' got nailed to a tree.....]
P.S. Please notice that it wasn’t Obama who caught and corrected himself about the basis of his ‘faith’. Rather it was the interviewer who heard the words, “….my Muslim faith.” At which point Mr. Stephanopoulos interrupted with, “Christian faith.”
@88. Chuck Pelto:
Your paranoia is showing, Chuck. I’m willing to bet that you weren’t banned for your political views. You were most likely banned because you are a schmuck who can’t take a hint, and keeps repeating untenable talking points and spamming discussion threads with your nonsense, while personally attacking any and all who call you out.
Your hopes for a GOP landslide in 2010 are misguided. The party has to have voters to win. Where will you get them after losing ground in every demographic group? Maybe you should put your Mensa certified mind to that task. The numbers don’t look good for your guys, and they are getting worse by the day.
Peace.
DS
PS – Your stat on Sotomayor has already been worn through. We all know that she has been overturned around 2% of the time – and that her reversal rate for cases granted certiorari is lower than average. But facts won’t help you – that’s why you don’t use them.
TO: All
RE: David S[tupid] and…
…self-contradiction.
Getting this?
I’m supposed to be ‘paranoid’. And yet David S recognizes that people can be banned from political discussion based on their views.
’nuff said.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out....]
Great comments 55 and 81.
When the revolution begins, I will be with you, my fellow conservatives and patriots.
As for now, I just bought a new Honda, built in Marysville OH, paying cash, so that Obama can’t get his hands on that money with his confiscatory tax policies.
TO: All
RE: ADDENDUM!
So….
….pointing out that the Sotomayor ‘opinions’ were more often overruled by the Supremes than not is I “can’t take a ‘hint’”?
If THAT isn’t for ‘political views’, what is?
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out....]
#112 — P.S. The answer to your question is that he should be more like Christ.
Just like the christ-like individual who killed Dr. Tiller today?
According to CNN he was one of the few US physicians who perfomed late term abortions. As I suspected late term abortion doesn’t seem to be common.
Yeah, I know… the killer must have been a leftist.
#118 — Your hopes for a GOP landslide in 2010 are misguided. The party has to have voters to win. Where will you get them after losing ground in every demographic group?
If the economy doesn’t pick up Obama could get voted out; it’s not like voters have another viable party to choose from. The problem of course is that most of the posters in this place would misinterpret this as something else entirely. And if this thread is any indicator, that something would be a theocracy. [shudder]
P.S. The ‘hint’ David S alludes to is the idea that people who think ‘differently’ from him should…
…Shut up!
#120 G. Alston:
“If the economy doesn’t pick up Obama could get voted out; it’s not like voters have another viable party to choose from. The problem of course is that most of the posters in this place would misinterpret this as something else entirely. And if this thread is any indicator, that something would be a theocracy. [shudder]”
Yet more kabuki terror and fake shudders from yet another poseur who whispers “theocracy” in his neighbor’s ear whenever the prospect of–or even just idle speculation about–a Republican victory is brought up.
I’ve been hearing this bul**hit from drama queens like G. Alston for the last 30 years, and where was the “theocracy?” Guess I missed it.
Meanwhile, most of these same people insist that we grovel and kowtow before ACTUAL dictators and ACTUAL theocrats, and they finally have a president who puts their shameful attitudes into practice.
TO: G Alston, et al.
RE: Fool
Show me where He called for the murder of people.
Go on….
…I defy you.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. The perp will not only face temporal judgment, but eternal Judgment as well.
Which do you think is more ‘damning’?
P.P.S. Just to give you—G Alston—the proper ‘perspective’ on the murder of babies….you baby-killer advocate, you—let me state this…
I do not fear so much for the babies murdered by their mothers and the abortionists.
Why?
Because I am perfectly confident that He can take care of them: these the most innocent of us all.
Likewise…..
….I am perfectly confident that He can ‘take care of‘ those who murdered them and those who countenance their murder as well.
Beginning to get a ‘clue’ here?
P.P.P.S. So he went to the ‘Reformed’ Lutheran Church?
Glad I got away from the Lutherans so long ago and became a REAL christian.
I can’t imagine how Christ would consider the selfish murder of babies as a form of ‘Reform’.
But what do YOU ‘think’ on that?
Keep looking up and keep speaking up. Declare before God and all around your beliefs. We cannot hide from His face and His ears are not plugged, He hears us all. There is no place to hide. The faithless will be faithless until the end but all will see the glory of God whether they want to or not. Everything is now in place and what a fortunate generation we are to be here at this time.
The wicked will bite and devour each another as they always do. Yes the wicked inflate themselves and look mighty impressive but there is no substance, there is no foundation, there is no truth in them. They will perish in their ignorance.
So if you have faith, keep it strong. Put on the whole amour of God. He would not have provided it if it was not needed. Be kind and do not be arrogant, pray for those who treat you badly for their souls are in jeopardy and you might save a few. You might even save yourself.
#126 — Beginning to get a ‘clue’ here?
The heaven/hell (cosmic justice) belief is a comfort for many people. I think there are some christian demoninations who don’t go for the whole brimstome thing, claiming that heaven and hell is what you make of the here and now. Do you know what denominations believe this? I no longer recall.
#124– Yet more kabuki terror and fake shudders from yet another poseur who whispers “theocracy” in his neighbor’s ear whenever the prospect of–or even just idle speculation about–a Republican victory is brought up.
Reading comprehension much? I was referring to the posters in this thread. Try again.
It’s possible to be a republican and not a wild-eyed evangelist. In fact, most aren’t.
One thing to note about BLT a la TUCC – they claim that Jesus was black. It follows from that that 2000 years ago, they believe that Palestine was populated by Blacks, and the modern Jews are impostors as Hebrews.
This is one variation on a group of religious variants known as Replacement Theology, whereby the Jews are replaced by various other groups. One of the more ludicrous variants of RT is British Israelism, believed by the Aryan Nations.
So Obama sat in a Church for 20 years, that not only was odious and objectionable for many other reasons, but shares the antisemitic Replacement Theology with the Ayran Nations gang.
Liberal Jews, try to defend that. Obama’s church believes that all (not just Ashkenazi) Jews are impostors.
Self Hating Boomer at 130,
The Church has long declared Replacement Theology a heresy and condemned it. Obama is quite comfortable with heresies, heretics, and reprobates. It was for a variety of reasons that I consider the president of the University of Notre Dame a menace to the Church for inviting this evil man in to speak and to be awarded an honorary doctorate.
One of the truly sad facts of modern America is the fact that so many of its people are theologically illiterate. Ideas have consequences, and that especially applies to theology.
All heresies are a mixture of both truths and falsehoods. Some have only the thinnest of any truth ensconced within it, and Jeremiah Wright’s “church” (I call it a cult, like Islam)advocates a ton of falsehoods. Barack Obama was raised as a Red Diaper Baby. His reference was the worldview of Marxism, and he admits it in his first autobiography, because he cites his most important influences: both were Marxists, and one was a CPUSA member, Frank Marshall Davis. Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was a kind of revisionist Marxist. At Occidental College he made sure to sign up for courses taught by Marxists and chose only to associate with radicals. Barack Obama had no Christian training or background when he was growing up. When he went to Chicago after he had graduated from Columbia University he took up with Rev. Wright, I believe, because the theology of that cult fit his worldview and values.
TO: G Alston
RE: Still Totally ‘Clueless’….
….eh?
Well…..not that I didn’t expect that.
Well….
….are they REALLY ‘christians’? Or do they think they know better than ‘God’?
Something to do with ‘pride’, perhaps?
How about:
• Episcopalians
• Presbyterians
• Lutherans (of various sorts)
• Mormons
• Jehovah’s Witnesses
• Methodists
I could go on and on.
I’ll even wager dollars against ‘donuts’ that the Obamists fall into those groups of thought as well.
But, still and all, you don’t seem willing to answer questions…..
….why IS that? You baby-killer, you.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out.....]
Scott, if those are your role models then why so concerned with electing hypocrites such as into political positions? You should be happy with anyone. Jesus would be.
Either the GOP is the party of the evangelicals or it’s not. However, those elected to represent those evangelicals are miserable failures themselves when it comes to following a jesus like path.
Except the Ethiopian Jews, of course.
Who, BTW, are treated as full equals in Israel.
@125. Chuck Pelto:
In the Gnostic Gospels: “At one point Christ advocates killing someone with a sword.”
That seems pretty straightforward.
Jesus said, “Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war. For there will be five in a house: three will be against two, and two against three, the father against the son, and the son against the father.”
Yeah, that sounds like a pretty clear indication of advocacy for violence. Fire, sword and war pretty much covers the bases.
And they will stand solitary.”
An army of one?
Peace.
DS
TO: misanthropicus
RE: Thoughts on Volohk Conspiracy
It might be that Ilya Somin is overly sensitive to being pointed out in gross error about something like Sotomayor.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
#132 — But, still and all, you don’t seem willing to answer questions…
What questions might you have, Torquemada?
And what’s with the baby killer thing? I’m afraid I don’t quite get that. On another thread you called me an atheist; now I’m a baby killer. Both perhaps? Got a third one? I could go for the hat trick. Help me out.
I’ll even wager dollars against ‘donuts’ that the Obamists fall into those groups of thought as well.
Seems to me that there are plenty of your list of denominations who are posters here. Why go out of your way to offend them? Aren’t you supposed to be smart?
#129 G. Alston:
[i]Reading comprehension much? I was referring to the posters in this thread. Try again.[/i]
What? Rehashing a dumb argument for the millionth time (that was disingenuous the first time it was made) by trying to extend it to the opinions of the posters here doesn’t make one bit of difference. I read the point you made, and responded to it in a manner that it deserved. You ought to grow some stones and do the same, rather than pretending that your pathetic excuse for discourse is somehow my fault.
#135 David S.:
I’m sorry, I can’t take your link seriously. After the 10th citation of the Da Vinci Code as if it were an authoritative source of anything, I had to stop because I was laughing too hard.
Surely you can do better.
David S.:
I’m sorry. My reading comprehension IS off on the reply I made to you.
The source you provide is in no way citing the Da Vinci Code as authoritative.
It is actually arguing for the authoritative nature of the four canonical gospels and against putting any stock in the Gospel of Thomas.
So, that source that quotes the Gospel of Thomas is actually arguing against your position. Perhaps you read it too quickly too?
The secret sayings of Jesus, eh? One troll flew over the cuckoo’s nest…
141. Self-hating Boomer:
“The secret sayings of Jesus, eh? One troll flew over the cuckoo’s nest…”
LMFAO! Nurse Ratched wanted on ward 13! We have another Lib Loon!
Sometimes you guys-n-dolls crack me up goooood! You da best! he-he-he!
The mystery of iniquity. The eternal costs to, and rewards for, a soul are so great when evaluating our position in the universe. The price of choosing wrong eternal suffering perhaps. The reward of choosing The Way, The Truth and The Life immeasurable and reportedly beyond description or price. And yet we hedge. We lie to ourselves. We want it both ways. Its not like Our Lord asks some awful price of us. Simply healthy living and to put Him first. This is so hard? Why? Because we are so very stiff necked and proud. So proud so willful.
And the fool says, “But there is no God. You want me to live thus and so because of a foolish notion you cannot prove.” Well, do as you wish. I’m not taking that bet.
The Da Vinci Code as serious theology???? LMAO!!
It’s a work of fiction. By the way, I enjoy Dan Brown’s novels, but I don’t take them as serious theological discovery or discussion.
The Gospel of Thomas was considered representative of a Gnostic Christian community. Gnosticism was declared a heresy for a very good reason: gnosticism despairs of earth, creation, the body, history, etc. It is a radical dualism that holds that creation is a fallen order. That’s at odds with the Old Testament’s Jewish view of creation as essentially good.
We are saved through a body. Grace comes to us through creation, sacrament, community, and the very earthiness of food, wine, and all that is good that God created. God took a human form to live with us and bring salvation to us.
For gnostics, salvation is literally in our heads. The body gets in the way. It is not surprising that down through the centuries those who inhabit academia are tempted by the heresy of gnosticism.
BTW, I consider myself a former and reformed Pelagian heretic. In my Marxist days, I was really into Liberation Theology. But at least my kind of heresy had proper respect for the body. Just that I was a bit too optimistic about the perfectability of history. We are always going to struggle against evil. There are no perfect, utopian “structures” that will rid us of it.
This article is hilarious and full of idiocy.
Hawkins ridicules Obama for “when he discusses any of his personal positions that go against the Christian faith, such as his pro-abortion stance, he always makes certain to mention that he’s a Christian in the process.” From this statement it seems the author is bashing Obama for trying to sneak in that he is Christian every time he says he supports abortion.
However the author says in the same article that “Obama wants his judgments and convictions to be our guide in all spheres of life, even when his judgments run 180 degrees counter to the natural law that guided our Founders or the Bibles that guided the Puritans.”
It seems to me Mr. Hawkins that you, ooh so conveniently, put the founders and the Bible in the same sentence and to top it off right next to each other. You seem quick to ridicule Obama for sneaking in a Christian label for himself, but when it comes to sneaking in Christianity with the founding fathers (who were deists, some strongly against Christianity, AND agreed that America is NOT a Christian nation or being found upon Christian values) you do it quickly and happily.
Mr.Hawkins you are a professor and I do not think it is my place to try to tell you are wrong, because I am sure you are much smarter than me, but when you say “Forget the “one nation under God” stuff and” I must remind you that under god was not part of the pledge until we had our hustle with the Soviets. Just a piece of history for you. I would suggest you not claim the long, deeply rooted, and high importance of Christianity and then end your opinion piece with a phrase that made its way into our lives very recently in comparison with Christianity’s time span.
By the way Mr.Hawkins people who claim issues are black and white usually love to tell others what is moral and then in the same step do completely the opposite. Just telling you that from personal experience.
More handouts,more handcuffs
106. susan:
“your percentage of success here is 0%, and it’s not going to improve anytime soon.”
I’m not talking about you, your syphilitic mind doesn’t count, and your liberal mother doesn’t want you. How’s your ulcer?
107. Evil Otto:
“Vivo is here to “open minds,” because, y’see, we’re closed-minded. If we were open minded, we’d agree with Vivo. After all, he’s a “citizen of the world.” ”
Bravo! I couldn’t have said it better.
109. MiamaMan:
“Who give ya permission to include me in your retrograde tribe?”
I’m SO GLAD we have nothing in common. You have no class, lost in a fog, idolizing imaginary witchcraft beings, vegetarian mulching cow and part of political troglodytes. Sorry to tell you this, low life. Te faltan mas de dos tornillos.
Obama reminds me of Saul, and what did Smauel say to Saul..Arrogance is just as evil as idolatry
TO: G Alston
RE: Silly Woman
Having trouble with (1) reading, (2) remembering, (3) using your browsers ‘Find Text’ function in this thread or (4) equivocation? I suspect all 4.
[1] Where did Christ advocate killing people? See item #125 of this thread.
[2] Where does Christ call for the murder of babies in thew womb? See item #127 of this thread.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. David S ‘thinks’ he has an answer by pulling text from a source other than the Holy Bible. But he’s a recognized ‘jackass’.
TO: G Alston
RE: My Error
Replace the word “kill” with “murder”. As in what happened to that abortionist yesterday.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The only Guy who was 'perfect' got nailed to a tree.]
Obama is a capitalist. Who wouldn’t want a 60% stake in a company (GM) that failed? Isn’t that the same as taking over oil rich Iraq after a failed regime?
The healthcare industry hasn’t worked as it should using profit as its willing force. Teachers that have been given healthcare contracts for 10 years have bankrupt the taxpayer and are robbing students fo a better education. The unions have experienced the same situation-contracts are made ahead of time, and the price of healthcare cost more than the steal to make a car. Healthcare HMO’s are shaking in their boots-GOOD! Because that is the next industry to fail under capitalistic greed.
The financial mess was inherited by the past administration. Our deficit peaked in 2007-largest in history-thanks to a war in which Bush made as a dictator. Before the election the bottom dropped out and Obama has had a big pile of elephant poop to clean up.
As far as religion, it is better for a Christian to live by the example of Christ, than be a Christian hypocrite like George Bush!!!!
Obama’s most dangerous characteristic is that he really believes all the bunk he says of himself, his goals, and his party. It is as if he is completely out of touch with reality – or maybe part of AWR’s point is that Obama plans on remaking reality. Either way, Obama is bad man.
@149. Chuck Pelto:
How charming.
Calling me a ‘jackass’ is all you have to say when confronted with evidence?
Again, prima facie proof that you can’t refute my position. ’nuff said.
Peace.
DS
Co-opting religion or not, even saints like Soetoro can have really, really bad days – here’s the latest installement from Soetero’s Malheures (Vivo, Jack, POM, Sheeshkebob & cie will sure love this):
The White House has just opened a mighty “Open Government Dialogue” website, asking for suggestions and views, the top slot being the “Government Transparency”, and guess what – the vast majority of the questions received by this noble initiative were… Where is the birth certificate? Can’t you show the birth certificate? etc.
Bellow is Misanthopicus’ respectful post on this Open Government Dialogue/ Transparency issues:
“Madam/ Sir,
It is essential for mister Obama’s credibility and further governing this country to provide proof that he was/ is eligible to be a US president.
Otherwise, any of his public acts (signing laws home, or treaties with foreign powers) can be at any time challenged at great expense, peril or loss of American lives.
In addition to this potential misery, he and his associates can be at any time called in an American court of law to answer criminal charges for raising $700 million dollars in electoral campaign funds from the public under a false pretense of electoral eligibility.
The country needs a closure in this matter – and adressing this matter expeditiously would show true statemanship -
Hope to hear about this soon -”
Hawkins is right about Obama trying any trick to perpetuate himself, including cultivating his Messianic image – yet, looks like even a saint can’t escape the predicament of painting himself in the corner of government transparency.
TO: All
RE: Refuting David S’s ‘position’
A position based on The Da Vinci Code? On the Gnostic gospels?
That position is under a pile of s—. I could kick it to pieces, if I didn’t mind the stench on my shoes afterwards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. TO: David S….
….my point with G Alston was about ‘murder’, which I mis-applied ‘killing’ to. So, you have NO ‘position’ here, except one under so much s—…..
And now the One is going to save Detroit! Whatta guy!
So let me get this straight. A giant failed corporation is going to be revived with – a little bit of public ownership.
I would fall down and laugh helplessly, but it would be more appropriate to weep.
Oh give me a break
He’s not only a jihadists, Communist, fascist and Nazi rolled into one. now he is a another John Calvin. Sounds like jealousyor even projection to me, cause the right thought they had a monopoly on God and religion
This crackpot describes himslef as some sort of historian, at some redneck community college no less.
Most of the redneck religious right, like this so called writer, acted like God’s emissary was running the country when Bush was elected. Now these same crackpots are claiming Obama is going to do what they once hoped to do?
#157: “He’s not only a jihadists, Communist, fascist and Nazi rolled into one.”
No, not at all. He’s not any of those things. He’s a very unremarkable left-of-center American, like tens of millions of others. It’s just that he demonstrably, patently lacks the abilities needed to run the USA.
TO: Horace Wells
RE: Heh
“Now these same crackpots are claiming Obama is going to do what they once hoped to do?” — Horace Wells
The only ‘crackpot’ here is YOU. And, according to the DSM-V your ‘pathological bias’ COULD be an indication of clinical insanity. And, if the new ‘Hate Crimes’ bill passes. I think someone should look into your comportment here as ‘qualifying’.
[Note: See http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-05-28/8-new-ways-you-might-be-insane/?cid=hp:originalslist4 for details.]
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Psycho-Ceramics: The study of crackpots.]
154. misanthropicus:
“Bellow is Misanthopicus’ respectful post on this Open Government Dialogue/ Transparency issues:”
And their answer was . . . ?
RE # 161/vivo RE #/154. misanthropicus: [...] “Bellow is Misanthopicus’ respectful post on this Open Government Dialogue/ Transparency issues:” – And their answer was . . . ? [...]
Is this in any form a pertinent comment?
Vivo, you’re really exhausted, buddy, I can see you how, bleary eyes, you fumble at the keyboard, trying to camouflage with chunks of dung the dents on Soetoro’s statue – go ahead, your priming with dung Soetoro’s statue is a lovely spectacle, keep doing it, keep doing it!
Obama is going to be one of the most intelligent leaders we have had in a very long time. Republicans remain clueless and full of rhetoric for which direction the new president wants to accomplish.
Republicans must produce a fog of misinformation, because that is the only way they look better. Lies and BS.
I really feel sorry for those that are being mislead; They will be stuck like a broken record, just as we come out of the ice age, they will still be wearing fur coats-hahahahaha.
RE #163/acj: [...] Obama is going to be one of the most intelligent leaders we have had in a very long time. [...]
asj, you Cro-Magnon – what I got from your attempt at phrasing is that Soetoro IS NOT ACTUALLY INTELLIGENT, and that you HOPE THAT HE MIGHT BECOME ONE DAY SO.
Guess what – I agree with you.
And now get lost in your cave, you fur loincloth wearer!
TO: All
RE: Heh
They white washed our brains with hope and change and all we can say is what a shame. — inspired by Mark S on another thread
By the time this is over, Obama is going to make Bill Clinton look like a ‘Saint’.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Politics is a deleterious profession, like some poisonous handicrafts. Men in power have no opinions, but may be had cheap for any opinion, for any purpose. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson]
161. vivo:
mulato asqueroso, tu madre maricon…
Oye schweinehunde, hold your tongue, it is bad for religious people like you, you will be prevented from going to Heaven, ha, ha.
RE #161/ vivo: “Bellow is Misanthopicus’ respectful post on this Open Government Dialogue/ Transparency issues:”
And their answer was . . . ? [..]
Bellow is my updated post there, and it already got 56 approvals:
“Mister Obama’s expenses for the NY City trip
I find very disturbing that the White House is not willing to reveal the costs of this excursion. Of course, the pressures of the job are great, and the president sure deserves a respite – however, the expenses of this trip (five helicopters, dozens of WH salaried workers doing overtime, cars moved to New York, Secret Service, other security measures, other logistics, then the deployment on the NY streets of hundred of cops, action which must be re-imbursed by the WH) sure goes significantly beyond $25.000 – and this in times of dire economics, with millions of people unemployed, with millions of families that live on $40 a week, and with no sign of relief anywhere in sight.
Much fuss and deservedly so, is around the British MPs’ expenses accounts (cleaning a moat, a fancy bra or tampons for a mistress, refurbishing a windvane, sausages, onions & ale for the honorables, etc.) but those expenses are minuscule in comparison with mister Obama’s Pharaonic-type of leisure expenses.
Very expensive folly as this act was, the arrogant witholding of the numbers is just adding insult to injury.
The US is not Haiti, US is a democracy, and not who-knows-what despotic polity whose coffers are also the ruler’s pockets –
Why Is This Idea Important?
For a democracy to exist and not fall in a primitive political state of other despotical regimes in the world, the American executive personnel, part of which temporarily mister Obama is, must be financially and otherwise fully accountable – this situation MUST be immediately addressed, the amount of money spent must be revealed and rapidly recovered.”
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In 8 hours more than 50 approving/ re-posting is not that bad – definitely more effective than your, POM’s, Sheesh’s and acj’s slobbering around here -
#81 CO Defender – Amen Brother!
You mention foreign car brands made in the USA. That would naturally be the consumer’s way to vote with their wallets. But Our Dear Leader knows this. That is why the EPA has new CAFE standards. They apply to the Honda’s, Toyota’s, etc. also. Face it, government motors will not want a level playing field. They have to “coerce” the public to buy their cars and so we can expect more developments which will penalize/punish them for their quality and innovativeness while rewarding union movements at these companies. It just wouldn’t look good for government motors to have product sitting in inventory while foreign brands are flying out of showrooms. Nope, that is not what this administration will allow to happen. Bet on it.
162. misanthropicus:
“Is this in any form a pertinent comment?”
You said you wrote to the WH (misspellings and everything), but did not say what they responded. Now in your ulcerated madness, you make a mess out of a simple question. Your brain connectors are overloaded and cracking. We all can see that.
167. misanthropicus:
Still no answer? Feel rejected? What’s a million $ weekend compared with the Iraqui billions? Maybe the Pres is sending a message to revive the economy: spend.
If unemployment is at 12%, employment is at 88% . . . That’s a lot of disposable income.
Barack Hussein Obama was elected because of the ignorance and naivety of those who never bothered to investigate the basic core underlying ideologies that motivate him.
He will eventually fail, but not until the masses are hurt enough to figure out that the majority of his policies are terribly flawed.
The hurt will come in the form of economic stress and possibly in the form of a war that he will help create through ideological pandering and through a process of neglect that will take shape in the form of a proprietary default.
So, be part of the solution…
Resist Obama in any way you possibly can because he does not represent what is best for the common man in this country.
Have you noticed that what he says and what he does are usually totally opposite?
Obama is an elitist through and through.
RE 169/Vivo RE 161/167. misanthropicus/Vivo (about the Government Transparency site) : “And their answer was? [..]”
Vivo, coleric little creature:
1) The WH didn’t answer, obviously – and this is an answer.
2) The thread initiated by me, got by this time over 100 appprovals & re-posts, number which you Soeterotrolls sure dread (and envy).
As far as your activities on PJM, my previous post 162 perfectly describes ‘em: “Vivo … your priming with dung Soetoro’s statue is a lovely spectacle, keep doing it, keep doing it!”
RE #169/vivo (vis-avis Soetoro’s excellent $3 millions junket to NYC): [...] What’s a million $ weekend compared with the Iraqui billions? Maybe the Pres is sending a message to revive the economy: spend.
If unemployment is at 12%, employment is at 88% . . . That’s a lot of disposable income.”
“If unemployment is at 12%, employment is at 88%. That’s a lot of disposable income.” – what your notion of an economic recovery is, is beyond any normal human’s comprehension. But you made it, buddy again, I’m certain that PJM has moved your bust on their “shelf of imbecilic posts” in a top position.
Obama is a puppet and his strings are being pulled by the Bilderberg Group. He and HRC met with them on June 5, 2008. Their goal is to collapse the dollar.
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/6807/53/
You are whithout a dbout the dumbest, self provicating people on the planet. that article if you can call it such a thing is pure 100% dog shit and you would have to be a true hollywood movie style ‘inbread’ ‘white trash’ ‘skank’ to agree whith anything like the bulk of that shit.
and you wonder why most of the world conciders you retarded
peace
xx
This article is just awful. I guess they don’t teach you how to write when you get your doctorate these days, do they?