Once Again, Islamists Bully Europe on Free Speech
Recently, French Islamists (presumably) firebombed the office of French satirical weekly magazine Charlie Hebdo for its speech. Simultaneously, Charlie Hebdo’s website was also taken down in a cyber-attack by a Turkish hacker. The firebombing and hacking occurred just one day after the magazine, which has a history of equal opportunity offensiveness, cheekily announced that the Islamic Prophet Mohammed was going to be a guest editor for this week’s edition, “(i)n order fittingly to celebrate the Islamist Ennahda’s win in Tunisia and the NTC (National Transitional Council) president’s promise that Sharia would be the main source of law in Libya.”
The weekly’s publisher, Stephane Charbonnier, stated that for this special edition the magazine would be rebaptized “Sharia Hebdo” as a pun on Islamic Sharia law, and would feature on its cover a picture of Mohammed saying: “100 lashes if you don’t die of laughter!” Not surprisingly, Charlie Hebdo’s announcement immediately prompted threats from Islamists in France who oppose any depiction of Mohammed, however benign, as blasphemy. And just a day later, the firebombing followed.
There is really nothing new to see here. Since the Salman Rushdie affair, Islamists have steadily ramped up their pressure against free speech in the West. Any type of speech that offends their delicate Islamist sensibilities is quickly denounced, and the person (or persons) issuing it is then threatened with defamation lawsuits, violence, or even death. Increasingly often, the Islamists follow through on their threats. And just as often, those in the West cave — usually before any violence occurs — and censor themselves or apologize for their own speech.
Remember the Danish cartoons and the resulting Muslim riots? Remember the threats against South Park and Comedy Central? Remember Molly Norris going “ghost” for her suggestion of an “Everybody Draw Mohammed Day”? Remember the slaughter of UN workers in Afghanistan because Terry Jones burned a Koran in Florida? Remember … well, there are just too many examples to remember.
There is also nothing much new to write here. As I have already written:
At some point in the future, the U.S. [and the West in general] is going to have to make a hard choice. We can stand up to Islamist driven bullying, or we can fold our tents and give them the power to dictate what we can say or do (at first only about Islam, but later about everything).
The French get this, at least when it comes to Islamist violence directed against free speech. The publisher of Charlie Hebdo vowed to stand his ground and to publish his magazine with Mohammed on its cover. He did. In fact, he printed an extra 175,000 copies after its first print run of 75,000 sold out. Then, he and his coworkers made plans to further tweak the Islamists, with a new cover for the next week’s edition that features a cartoon of a Muslim man and a man labeled Charlie Hebdo locked in a homosexual kiss. (Some media have reported that this new cover is also a depiction of Mohammed. This does not seem to be the case.) Hundreds of Frenchmen, both ordinary and famous, attended a demonstration in Paris “in defense of the right to blaspheme.” The French prime minister, various other government ministers, the mayor of Paris, and many other prominent Frenchmen all condemned the firebombing attack, and strongly defended Charlie Hebdo’s right to free speech. French supporters of Charlie Hebdo even included Frenchmen who “at one time or another, have threatened the magazine with defamation suits.”
If only the American press were as brave. Paris Time magazine’s bureau chief Bruce Crumley showed nothing but disdain for Charlie Hebdo’s free speech:
Okay, so can we finally stop with the idiotic, divisive, and destructive efforts by “majority sections” of Western nations to bait Muslim members with petulant, futile demonstrations that “they” aren’t going to tell “us” what can and can’t be done in free societies? Because not only are such Islamophobic antics futile and childish, but they also openly beg for the very violent responses from extremists their authors claim to proudly defy in the name of common good.
James Kitfield, National Journal’s security correspondent, echoed Crumley. Christopher Dickey, the Paris bureau editor at Newsweek, tried to deflect the blame to the far right in France, because, he said, it rather than the Islamists had the most to gain from the attack. A major left-wing American website, the Huffington Post, “deplor(ed) the conversation that followed the attack on Charlie Hebdo’s offices” because it did not “sufficiently condemn the ‘disrespectful’ publication, but rather suggested — shockingly — that satire be considered an acceptable ‘part of the French tradition.’” And even the mainstay of U.S. journalism, the New York Times, has been mute on the threat to free speech.
I am shocked to be saying this, but the U.S. needs to emulate the bravery of the “cheese-eating surrender monkeys” when it comes to standing up for free speech against Islamist violence. Otherwise, Islamists will continue to be emboldened and crank out new things Westerners cannot speak about. Just recently, in Switzerland, in America, and in Egypt, some Muslims have declared that another form of speech portraying the Christian cross is also a problem. In Egypt, the Islamists have even threatened and killed Copts for having it. Considering the Islamists’ rabid anti-Semitism, it is also probably safe to say that any Jewish religious symbols are considered even more of a provocation. And now, in something that probably needs to be seen to be believed, the humor-challenged Muslim radicals in the Middle East have discovered that certain toy guns are blasphemous to Islam.
Just wait until this madness spreads to the U.S. Do we really want these kinds of people determining what we can say about anything?






“Because not only are such islamophobic antics futile and childish, but they also openly beg for the very violent responses…”
What this idiot fails to realize is that the actions of the magazine clearly demonstrate that they ARE NOT islamophobic. They are not afraid of that islamist threaten to do, hence, no fear of islam.
(note: all references to “islam” are not capitalized…on purpose)
I don’t know which is worse… the knuckle-dragging, chin-whiskered misogynists, or these cowardly, leftist apologists for islam. A pox on both their miserable houses I say. Humiliation of these in-bred barbarians, and poor excuses for journalists, is our last line of defense. Then comes all out war. Satire longtemps de phase ! !
“Hundreds of Frenchmen, both ordinary and famous, attended a demonstration in Paris . . . ”
It’s tough finding even one Frenchman who is both ordinary and famous. My hat is off to the organizers who tracked down hundreds of them.
You couldn’t think of anything better to say than to misread what he’s saying about who attended? Well, that is just pitiful. You must be an islamophobe.
or at least he has a very selectively poor understanding of English, a malady that seems to afflict many on the political left.
he was being facetious methinks
My only is this: Where did they find a Frenchman with a backbone, let alone 100 of them?
Mind was apparently going faster than my fingers typing. That would be, my only QUESTION would be….
Good for the French! I’ve been surprised by French determination and strength in the last year or so. They stepped up and were very active in Libya (for what that is worth) and now they seem quite ready to stand up to the Islamists. If they keep it up I’m going to start singing La Marseillaise on a regular basis. Then again good old Sarkozy called our prime minister a liar, so maybe not.
Hey Diana, you can call my “leader” a liar if you like, and I’ll be in full agreement with you. Anyone who ignores a microphone under the assumption that it’s off these days, is an idiot. Mine is an idiot and a liar.
I am frech, living in France and what i see is when a leftist magazine make an “islamophobic” paper, hundreds of people (hundreds only
attended a demonstration… hundreds of bobos… but… when an ordinary frenchie speaks about islam and islamism and coran the risks are very high to be… at least prosecuted, designed as racist or… nazi unless he is leftist
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Everyone knows that the MSM in the States are just a bunch of wimps & stooges. They make fun & trash everything EXCEPT Islam. These bunch of blind cowards remind me of the people who worked for Pravda in the old USSR. Totally useless. The laugher is that the French press has a HUGE pair while the MSM press here squats to urinate…
Well, your statement is just the most sexist pile of crap I’ve heard in weeks. Women in general are probably braver than men on any given day. You try putting up with squeezing a baby out of your body and see how you like life.
You do know that your response had absolutely nothing to do with Bugaricus’s comment, right?
I was just thinking the same thing. ChrisinCa obviously thinks Bulgaricus was referring to women.
It wouldn’t surprise me to find out that some of our old line MSM types worked for the KBG.
A yes, the Huffington Post. A website whose readers never met a Christian they didn’t despise but will pounce on anyone (like me) who dares to question Islam. Their comment section is populated with intellectuals who hate Christianity but have no opinion whatsoever about Islam. Isn’t that a little strange?
No Hawk, not strange at all. Stupidity is nothing if not predictable….
Ignorance is remediable; stupid is forever!
And there can be nothing more fun than to post a conservative comment on HuffPo, and watch the rabid, drooling response from the mindless, kool aid drinking leftists who post there.
Been there, done that, loved all the names they came up with for someone like me.
well I can think of one place worse than Huffpot’s– post a pro ISrael comment on youtube!
LOL my mailbox is always full- today from a rabid pro-Muslim calling me baby killer
“Just wait until this madness spreads to the U.S. Do we really want these kinds of people determining what we can say about anything?”
What on earth are you talking about here? This “madness” has spread to the U.S.A. already … it’s called being Sharia compliant. Enforcing Sharia compliance via enforcing blasphemy laws is gaining momentum … it’s called “using our own laws against us”; it’s a political jihad tactic and it’s a nasty one. Take a look around and see what CAIR is doing … as just one example.
Can’t say anything bad about Islam … inventing the word “Islamophobia” so as to pummel the West and censor free speech is SO obvious that it’s laughable … c’mon already!!!! We have an administration that is Sharia compliant; we have a military that is trying its damnedest to be Sharia compliant; we have a media that is Sharia compliant … it’s called DHIMMITUDE.
“Can’t say anything bad about Islam … inventing the word “Islamophobia” so as to pummel the West and censor free speech is SO obvious that it’s laughable”
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Let us first understand terms;
phobia n.
Psychiatry: an abnormal intense and irrational fear of a given situation, organism, or object
ab·nor·mal adj.
Not typical, usual, or regular; not normal; deviant.
ir·ra·tion·al adj.
1.
a. Not endowed with reason.
b. Affected by loss of usual or normal mental clarity; incoherent, as from shock.
c. Marked by a lack of accord with reason or sound judgment: an irrational dislike.
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Now let us examine Actions by Islamists;
4/14/1972 USA New York, NY Ten members of a local mosque phone in a false alarm and then ambush responding officers, killing one.
1/19/1973 USA Brooklyn, NY Muslim extremists rob a sporting goods store for weapons, gunning down a police officer who responds to the alarm.
7/1/1973 USA Bethesda, MD An Israeli diplomat is gunned down in his driveway by Palestinian terrorists.
7/18/1973 USA Washington, DC Nation of Islam members shoot seven members of a family to death in cold blood, including four children. A defendant in the case is later murdered in prison on orders from Elijah Muhammad.
10/19/1973 USA Oakland, CA Nation of Islam terrorists kidnap a couple and nearly decapitate the man, while raping and leaving the woman for dead.
10/29/1973 USA Berkeley, CA A woman is shot repeatedly in the face by Nation of Islam terrorists.
11/25/1973 USA Oakland, CA A grocer is killed in his store by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/11/1973 USA Oakland, CA A man is killed by Nation of Islam terrorists while using a phone booth.
12/13/1973 USA Oakland, CA A woman is shot to deah on the sidewalk by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/20/1973 USA Oakland, CA Nation of Islam terrorists gun down an 81-year-old janitor.
12/22/1973 USA Oakland, CA Nation of Islam terrorist kills two people in separate attacks on the same day.
12/24/1973 USA Oakland, CA A man is kidnapped, tortured and decapitated by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1/24/1974 USA Oakland, CA Five vicious shooting attacks by Nation of Islam terrorists leave three people dead and one paralyzed for life. Three of the victims were women.
4/1/1974 USA Oakland, CA A Nation of Islam terrorist shoots at two Salvation Army members, killing a man and injuring a woman.
4/16/1974 USA Ingleside, CA A man is killed while helping a friend move by Nation of Islam terrorists.
3/9/1977 USA Washington, DC Hanifi Muslims storm three buildings including a B’nai B’rith to hold 134 people hostage. At least two innocents were shot and one died.
7/22/1980 USA Bethesda, MD A political dissident is shot and killed in front of his home by an Iranian agent who was an American convert to Islam.
8/31/1980 USA Savou, IL An Iranian student guns down his next-door neighbors, a husband and wife.
11/6/1989 USA St. Louis, MO A 17-year-old girl is stabbed to death by her parents for bringing ‘dishonor’ to their family by dating an ‘infidel’ African-American.
1/31/1990 USA Tuscon, AZ A Sunni cleric is assassinated in front of a Tuscon mosque after declaring that two verses of the Qur’an were invalid.
11/5/1990 USA New York City, NY An Israeli rabbi is shot to death by a Muslim attacker at a hotel.
1/25/1993 USA Langley, VA A Pakistani with Mujahideen ties guns down two CIA agents outside of the headquarters.
2/26/1993 USA New York, NY Islamic terrorists detonate a massive truck bomb under the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring over 1,000 in an effort to collapse the towers.
3/1/1994 USA Brooklyn, NY A Muslim fires on a vanload of Jewish boys, killing one.
3/23/1997 USA New York, NY A Palestinian leaves an anti-Jewish suicide note behind and travels to the top of the Empire State building where he shoot seven people in a Fedayeen attack.
4/3/1997 USA Lompoc, CA A prison guard is stabbed to death by a radical Muslim.
3/17/2000 USA Atlanta, GA A local imam and Muslim spiritual leader guns down a deputy sheriff and injures his partner.
9/11/2001 USA Shanksville, PA Forty passengers are killed after Islamic radicals hijack the plane in an attempt to steer it into the U.S. Capitol building.
9/11/2001 USA New York, NY Islamic hijackers steer two planes packed with fuel and passengers into the World Trade Center, killing hundreds on impact and eventually killing thousands when the towers collapsed. At least 200 are seriously injured.
9/11/2001 USA Washington, DC Nearly 200 people are killed when Islamic hijackers steer a plane full of people into the Pentagon.
3/19/2002 USA Tuscon, AZ A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course.
5/27/2002 USA Denton, TX Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard.
7/4/2002 USA Los Angeles, CA Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people.
9/5/2002 USA Clinton, MD A 55-year-old pizzaria owner is shot six times in the back by Muslims at close range.
9/21/2002 USA Montgomery, AL Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one.
9/23/2002 USA Baton Rouge, LA A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers.
10/2/2002 USA Wheaton, MD Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot.
10/3/2002 USA Montgomery County, MD Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period.
10/9/2002 USA Manassas, VA A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
10/11/2002 USA Fredericksburg, VA Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas.
10/14/2002 USA Arlington, VA A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot.
10/22/2002 USA Aspen Hill, MD A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers.
8/6/2003 USA Houston, TX After undergoing a religious revival, a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4″ butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man.
12/2/2003 USA Chicago, IL A Muslim doctor deliberately allows a Jewish patient to die from an easily treatable condition.
4/13/2004 USA Raleigh, NC A Muslim man runs down five strangers with a car.
4/15/2004 USA Scottsville, NY In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested.
6/16/2006 USA Baltimore, MD A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim gunman in an unprovoked terror attack.
6/25/2006 USA Denver, CO Saying that it was ‘Allah’s choice’, a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
7/28/2006 USA Seattle, WA An ‘angry’ Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.
2/13/2007 USA Salt Lake City, UT A Muslim immigrant goes on a shooting rampage at a mall, targeting people buying Valentine’s Day cards at a gift shop and killing five.
1/1/2008 USA Irving, TX A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their ‘Western’ lifestyle.
7/6/2008 USA Jonesboro, GA A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
2/12/2009 USA Buffalo, NY The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
6/1/2009 USA Little Rock, AR A Muslim shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center explicitly in the name of Allah.
11/2/2009 USA Glendale, AZ A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too ‘Westernized.’ (10-20-09)
11/5/2009 USA Ft. Hood, TX A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers while yelling praises to Allah.
12/4/2009 USA Binghamton, NY A non-Muslim Islamic studies professor is stabbed to death by a Muslim grad student in revenge for ‘persecuted’ Muslims.
4/14/2010 USA Marquette Park, IL After quarrelling with his wife over Islamic dress, a Muslim convert shoots his family members to ‘take them back to Allah’ and out of the ‘world of sinners’.
4/30/2011 USA Warren, MI A 20-year-old woman is shot in the head by her stepfather for not adhering to Islamic practices.
The tally: Killed 3076 Injured 1421
Fear is a normal response to these kinds of actions, it is not Abnormal, nor is it Irrational.
Islamophobia is definately NOT a Phobia
That’s not fear you’re smelling. It’s not even the scent of contempt. It’s the overwhelming fragrant aroma of pure, unadulterated hatred for a belief system that is completely, absolutely, and forever incompatible with the foundational values of America, most specifically, the individual’s rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, freedom of religion, of thought, and speech. Born of hate, islam is, and will be, consumed by the same. There’s not enough love on this planet to deter a couple of billion jihadis committed to making the rest of us submit or die. We can only hope to beat it back into the cave of horrors from which it sprang, and pray for Divine intervention. Unfortunately for America, the mindless drones in control of government have imported millions of non-assimilating muslims in some self-hating, PC, multicultural program forcing this nation of Christians, Jews, and Others to allow an unresisted invasion into the very heart of our founding fathers’ reasons for seeking these shores.
tonight my wife and myself went out to have a Fudd berger, at a burb in atl. area….I was armed with 2 hand guns…One small 22 mag., i always carry in my front pocket, the larger “Tail Kicker” a 40 cal GLOCK, in an inner holster inside my belt, that is just what every “silent” American will have to do, after all your life may depend on you being armed….All perfectly legal, here in Ga. USA…
I generally carry my Ruger Security Six in a shoulder rig, if not that my Daewo DP52 in a hip-hugger rig.
Got a good friend who has a fanny pcak rig that he carries his .50 action express in.
This is all rather moot, since France will be majority Muslim by 2050 to 2055. The Islamists can bide their time until about 2035 or so, and then try to seize control of France – by then, at least the majority of “youths” will be Muslim, and they will be the ones taking to the streets to seize power, while elderly native Europeans cower in fear.
What makes you think there will be any muslims in europe by 2055?
“What makes you think there will be any muslims in europe by 2055?”
What makes you think there will be any NON-Muslims?
Nothing like a good fire bombing from the religion of peace. The next thing you know someone will be murdered for being a Christian in Iran.
ROPMA!
I also think that the French are beginning to understand that there is no place to run to anymore. Gone are the colonies where people could go if they didn’t like what was going on in France itself. Today, if the French don’t defend what France stands for, then all is really lost.
If I were the Islamists, I would not push the French too far on this. The French are very, very, capable of lashing out against the Muslims and have done so in the past. The Muslims are pushing their luck if they think France will bend to their every demand. If you don’t believe me, just look at how they behaved during World War II. While occupied by Germany, the French Vichy fascists had no problems AT ALL rounding up and killing jews. In fact, the French embraced the Vichy government and actively supported it. They certainly did not rebel against it that much. So there is no reason to believe that the same thing couldn’t happen with French outrage against Muslims. When Europeans are confronted with a serious threat to their own country, they do what they do best, and that is destroy the threat. If I were a Muslim in France, I’d start keeping my mouth shut.
The French are still 90% French. Americans haven’t the same demographic as during WW2. The US is becoming less European and more dark and dark races haven’t shown much interest in standing up to the Big Man. See South Africa and the former Rhodesia. Or, for that matter, look at the USA. Wherever non-Europeans gain power central authority expands and corruption increases. Blacks in the USA vote around 90% socialist, as do Muslims in France. MesoAmericans vote about 65% socialist as do highly educated women.
Women are already shifting away from the idea of monogamy to serial husbands or fathers of their children. Black women now give birth to children 70% of whom do not have a father (59% of black women have children with more than one father). Non-elite white women are trending in the same direction. They would be attracted to the idea of polygamy as found in Islam. In an poorer America, alpha males rich enough to afford several wives would flourish while beta males become gay. This trend can be observed today in liberal enclaves as seen in the so-called metrosexual man who is actuality bisexual, if not in deed, in his lack of manly qualities.
Be careful: reality is racist.
LibertyShip, are you really using the French treatment of Jews, specifically aiding and supporting their Nazi occupiers’ genocide of the Jews, as an example of the French showing backbone and defending freedom and their country?
If so, you are therefore stating that Jews somehow posed a threat to the French. Indeed, what you are saying is that the Jews were more of a threat than the occupying Nazis and at least as threatening to French society as islam is today. Ridiculous.
PLEASE tell me that I’m reading you wrong!
ps – While most of us just see the French as arrogant cowards, the truth is that they are just pricks. As such, I agree with you that the islamists should be careful not to push the French too far – like the Jews did.
Don’t get your panties in a wad. LibertyShip is saying, in a round about way, that the French are capable of being ruthless in dealing with enemies of France, whether real or imaginary.
I hate to say this but I think the Americans will cave on Islam. They have a history with affirmative action. The French have never gone down that slippery slope. Maybe there will be a Christian revival in the States. The French are less feminized than the Americans and may be able to throw out their Muslims as the elites begin to understand Islam’s affect on them. Why would American elites care if they are Muslim or not? We’ll see how the elite American women respond. So far they don’t seem to mind.
Elite American women appear to realize that having one father for their children is important for their success in life. But why would they care if non-elite women resort to polygamy?
I believe that on closer inspection you will discover that the far left elites are not indicative of Americans. Also, the sentiment in the reaction to the latest Islamist outrage in France has been building for quite some time. Do you recall the riots, by islamic youth, in response to the police violating their neighborhood’s sovereignty? When we speak of the French, there are the people, and then, there is the government, there is a quite a difference. The people have made a statement to the islamists and the government this nonsense will stop, or else! Power to them!!
“the far left elites are not indicative of Americans”
I used to think that until they elected Obama. Okay, so he’s black but still the country has moved consistently left for years and the demographics don’t look good.
I was living in Paris during the 2005 riots. In another comment I made at PJ I said it was sparked by a police shooting similar to Rodney King. I now remember it as a muslim kid being chased by cops. He hid in some sort of high-voltage station and electrocuted himself. Wasn’t touched by the flicks.
It doesn’t matter much that elites aren’t the same as the people. Upper caste Hindus have ruled lower caste Hindus for centuries. To me, having also lived in India, the current “protected groups” setup looks awfully caste-like. People are now born into certain racial and sexual groups protected by hate crime laws. This is a caste system. It may seem upside down but women and homosexuals (semi-lesbians and lesbians) seem to be coming out on top with white heterosexual men at bottom.
You’ve got it exactly right: in the realm of the politically correct liberal Left, the food chained is inversed, rewarding weakness and failure and demonizing strength and success.
This is enabled by technology and lack of outside threats to a society.
If you had, for example, a disastrous asteroid strike, this illusion would be shattered as the silly veneer atop reality it is. Reality never takes a day off; only our stupid conceits about ourselves do.
Political correctness is essentially a feminine concept.
You have it exactly right. Half of human life is self delusion and fantasy. If something catastrophic were to happen, like an asteroid or nuclear war, although it would be tragic for those of us living through it, it would, in reality, be cathartic–purgitive for the human race. The survivors would be more intelligent, more physically fit, and reoriented to reality for generations after. This presupposes, of course, that the calamity wouldn’t be fatal for all of mankind.
I started to develop some respect for the French when they sank that Greenpeace boat in the south Pacific a few years back.
A lot is going on in France, with its 700 odd zones urbaines sensibles (ZUS) around cities where cops no longer enter to enforce French law to its sometimes mass Islamic public prayers in the streets of Paris, in open defiance of law banning such displays. And re-affirmation of French law banning religious dress and symbols in public bldgs.
I imagine the smart guys at Charlie Hebdo (there was a TV documentary of an earlier case that CH won) are intensely frustrated at the relentless attempts to alter French society. However, blatant provocations (such as the new cover you link) seem way over the top.
Maybe the situation in France is such that you have to go way over the top to touch the truth.
One thing that differentiates radical Muslims from normal human beings is their willingness to firebomb a bldg., and, even more extreme, to perform acts like the London, Madrid, Indonesian bombings, just the tip of that iceberg.
I imagine some hugely destructive act for Paris has been an Islamist goal for some time.
I have a deep antipathy for all these brain dead adherents of the religion of perpetual outrage. Why don’t Islamists go home to their hellholes and leave civilized societies alone ?
Here in NYC, at the Brooklyn Museum, we have an exhibit featuring ants crawling over Jesus. This is the same museum that had an art exhibit ten years ago showing Virgin Mary covered in dung and a crucifix immersed in urine. The curators and assorted liberals congratulate themselves in “standing up to the religious right” and “fighting right-wing censorship and extremism”. The hypocrisy is astounding. Do you think these liberals would ever show a Koran immersed in urine, bugs coming out of Mohammad’s mouth, or a picture of Muhammad covered in crap? For that you would lose your job or be charged with a hate crime! This country is slowly becoming shariah compliant where you can insult Christian symbols with impunity, but Islam is above criticism.
Agreed. However, the world will love it’s own. Islam, a pagan religion worshiping a false moon god, is of the world. While Christianity is no of this world system, and hated for it.
I mean, how could anyone worship the G-d of creation that loved his creation so much, his word was made flesh, lived a perfect life, died, and rose from the grave as atonement for human sin. Saving the human creation from damnation. The nerve of those unwashed Americans cling to their weapons, Bible, and not being abart of this world system ruled by Lucifer.
You’re absolutely right, and the same can be said for the annual gay “Hunky Jesus” contest in San Francisco. Even though Christian countries allow gay parades and all but one Islamic country forbid them, it is Christians the gays attack.
The Rainbow coalition sides with the hapless victims of “Islamophobia” but are afraid of them as well.
What we need are the old underground comix like the 60s that conspicuously and assertively go after any entity that thinks it’s too big for free speech.
I was in Munich in 1972 when the muslims took the israeli Olympic team hostage. I quickly learned to hate muslims. On 9/11 I had never heard of Osama bin Laden and quickly renewed my hatred strengths. With the Middle East wars almostover we are now bracing for an Iranian bomb. And I hope we bomb first. But along this path something happened, like a “funny thing happened on the way to..” in the joke. But it was not a joke. The Lord sometimes brings people together to show them that all are not evil and hate must be focused. In 2008, I had a heart attack, the ambulance took me to an ER and the cardiologist who administered to me, spoke in a strong loud voice, “No more smoking!” I had tried for decades
to quit, on that morning I quit! No craving, nothing, it was like a miracle. My cardiologist is a big man, a strong figure, from Egypt, a muslim. With all the hate I had from earlier I was faced with realizing not to focus it everywhere. There are those who threaten us and there are those who try to save our lives. Know when anger is justified and for whom.
I don’t condemn Muslims categorically.
But the insane, violent radical contingent of Islam is definitely giving the stable contingent a bad name.
There is one idea in Islam I really like, that there is no intermediary between the worshipper and Allah.
So what’s with all these self-important, power hungry religious leaders, the grand Muftis, the imams, ayatollahs, mullahs, ad nauseam, calling the shots ?
Unfortunately you have discovered the phenomenon called “One on One”. In those instances you generally find the normal or human side of any person based on a need that you have at that moment. The same could be said of NAZI’s or any other group that displayed, as a group, traits that as an individual would be considered barbaric. The problem is that when there is an underlying dogma or religion that requires strong compliance with it’s laws the individual can never be trusted to do the right thing if a conflict between their religion and a momentary issue arises. I cannot foresee an issue that would cause me to fear any other religion that I am aware of except Islam in any situation. Just think about all of the restrictions Islam places on it’s followers. No seeing eye dogs, no alcohol, no other religions, no borrowing of money, food issues, misogyny issues and many many more that in this country may not be a threat but in a Muslim country you would be in peril if you violated any one of these. Just remember one thing; Muslims are like the dripping water in an underground cave. At any one time it is not very impressive but over the ages the turn out some pretty huge stalactites. This is the threat they impose on Western society. They will chip away at our laws and culture until they become the majority and then we all KNOW what will happen then under the religion of peace!
“They will chip away at our laws and culture until they become the majority and then we all KNOW what will happen then under the religion of peace!”
For this all of them should be looked upon as potential enemies. Their code of silence, dhimmitude among Western leaders just add to the threat.
For these one-on-one situations with Muslims, it is not hatred that I feel, but a deep mistrust. You may have had a good experience with a Muslim doctor, but just scroll up to another post and you see how a Muslim doctor let a Jewish patient die from an easily treated condition. It was also a group of Muslim doctors that tried to blow up Heathrow airport. Even that Fort Hood Muslim psychiatrist treated his soldier patients well until he decided to murder thirteen of them.
I remember an article a few years back of a Muslim in Israel who was a “good friend” to his Jewish neighbor. He confided in him that if his imam demanded it, he would have no qualms about killing “his Jew” and the Jew’s kids too.
You never know when one of these Muslims will become radicalized by a killer imam or suddenly “go jihad”. The sad, tragic thing in our society is that the politicians and legal system in western countries will more likely charge you with Islamophobia and excuse the acts of violent jihad as having “….nothing to do with Islam, a religion of peace.”
That’s about where it is, Trainwreck.
And the Army’s handling of Mjr. Hasan, given (at the very least) his known correspondences with the guy the US drone just blasted out of the Yemeni desert, is nothing short of shameful.
Does this imbecile realize that he’s making an equivalent argument, point for point, to that of the Australian imam who claimed that women who get raped by Muslim men are asking for it by dressing in a provocative fashion — I believe his phrase was “uncovered meat” — ?
Truly, there is no limit to the cowardice of the “journalist” class.
“…that satire be considered an acceptable ‘part of the French tradition.’”
So, Voltaire was either not part of the French tradition or he was unacceptable.
Lance–I had the same thought. the answer is, of course, none of these maroons has any idea who the heck Voltaire is!
Wait ?
We are way beyond those follies: the islamist imperialists are DEMANDING that we stop anti-terror investigations IN NEW YORK
See this column, see the pictures of the muslims’ signs:
NYC: Hamas-Linked CAIR, Muslim Brotherhood Groups Demand, “Pray” For End to Law Enforcement Measures to Fight Islamic Terrorism
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/11/hamas-linked-cair-abd-muslim-brotherhood-groups-demand-.html
Ann Barnhardt has the right idea. Say what you will and if threatened, personally invite them over for confrontation, while returning their cowardly threats.
Bruce Crumley is redundant, while trying to pass himself off as sophisticated.
All he had to say is “I’m a kitten”.
Exactly, Ann has more balls then the French and the US government combined.
By the way Islamists, I David J Kramer will never submit to your theories or your dhimmitude. Being that I live in the City of Eau Claire Wisconsin, Republic of Wisconsin, in the US of A, I would appreciate that you come here and make me submit to your dhimmitude. I appreciate a religion that attempts to push their idiocy, especially when you begin to look into the actual writings of Islam. Hmmmmm, a wacked out individual begins seeing some dark figure that states that raping young children is fine.
In any other religion, that would be described as a devil or progeny of the devil, but NOT islam,since it is the dung of the world religion. Sorry, am I supposed to be afraid because there is 1.8 billion of you? Well, there are a bunch of liberals and communists in the USA that think they too are the majority. Funny thing, they seem to agree with you. That communism and Islam have the same order or outcome.
Islamophobia Rampant in the United States;
For anyone keeping score
People killed by radical Muslims on 9/11: 2,996
Muslim-Americans killed “in revenge”: 1
I’m thinking of opening a chain of sandwich shops called “Mohammed’s Pulled Pork Sandwiches”. Maybe the first one should be in Dearborn. Or Paris.
If you are going to be a bear, be a Grizzly bear!
I know another Internet fellow who named his dog Muhammad. Poor dog.
Don’t be surprised when you government comes to shut you down. They are NOT here to protect you, even though that is what is written in the Constitution, they are to protect the funding that they receive, if the future is Islamophication, they will prosecute you to the furthest reaches of islamaphobia.
If anyone wants to argue the point, just look at FDR.
Crowley shows he’s in contention for the coveted Walter Duranty Award for Journalistic Toadying to Totalitarians.
Here’s a pretty good link. We need someone in the White House and Congress who will defend the civilization, here and there. And will disabuse these stupid media folks of their stupidity. http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2011/11/whitewashing-islam-20-errors-on-2020.html
Here’s a pretty good link. We need someone in the White House and Congress who will defend the civilization, here and there. And will disabuse these stupid media folks of their stupidity. http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2011/11/whitewashing-islam-20-errors-on-2020.html
What seems obvious to me that others may have missed is that liberals embrace is-lame because they think it’ll be a great idea if the muslims do the heavy lifting and dirty work and then when there is sufficient upheaval in our Western society, the liberals come in and clean up the town and make it remarkably better and can more easily reconstruct it in their utopian vision.
Naturally, and as always the liberals have not accounted for the laws of unintended consequences such as the birthrate of the sand-people and they’re overwhelming desire to consistently exceed the abilities of the food supply. The liberals also (perhaps) don’t realize that muslims do not think anything like Westerners in any way. Westerners have for generations gotten away from tribal loyalty-type thinking which is a way of life for muslims.
So this welcoming of islame attribute of the liberals is a blueprint that’s bound to fail. It will never end up the way they think it will, as with all liberal ideas. Think worst case scenario where the muslims simply fire off several nukes to get their way and don’t care about radioactive places that they can’t live in.
Their “leadership” is both patient and arrogant. They don’t care if the world ends up with everyone dead and no one having anything at all. So much the better for them, except that they are cowards and rather than make the trip to the land of virgins on their own, they recruit the blindly angry youth to do it for them. They are secret capitalists, these mullahs and imams who pretty much dig being mortal and having loads of cash. They have the laundry-list of weird sexual habits and preferences, palettes and choices of conveyance. I would submit that most if not all are mentally ill and this may be due to inbreeding, similar to what many Western royal families suffered.
But it will all come to a head and I tend to agree that Europeans will get pretty fed up with the local muslims who refuse to assimilate. Tolerance is proving to be a fool’s errand though the intentions were good (as they always seem to be) but when the people cry “uncle” it will hopefully happen when there is a conservative government in power that will find a way to deport them and prevent them from returning.
Outside of Paris, the French are extraordinarily patient and friendly. They are also largely conservative and religious. I think that part of France will rise up and be heard.
The “cheese-eating surrender monkeys” have been pushing back against Islamism far more strenuously and for a far longer time than we in the US have done. We should be embarrassed and ashamed.
Where is Marie Claude when you need her?
This being Europe, this whole thing can only end in one of two ways. Either they end up bending knee to Islam, or they freak out and go way overboard as Europeans are want to do, with a new Final Solution for Islam.
I suspect it will be the later, and I suspect it will start with the Germans……it’s always the Germans.
Given that muhammedans envision a “final solution” where everyone who’s not one of them is killed, the only viable way to end the threat they pose is indeed to kill them all.
Sad but true, anything short of that will only be a delaying action in the ongoing war between muhammedanism and civilisation that’s been going on for 700 years now.
I don’t promote killing anyone, but logic tells me it will eventually (not now, maybe not in a hundred years, but eventually) come down to either bowing to the inevitable and being killed, or killing yourself.
In response to the spineless turd Bruce Crumley’s reply, what IS an Islamist ‘extremist’? Those who create and encourage destruction or the ‘moderate’ Islamists who haven’t done jack s hit EVER whereas Western nations have to clean up their mess for said ‘moderate’ Islamists.
Seriously, how and whenhow has the ‘modern/progressive Islamist’ combated let alone deterred/passed sound punishment on said ‘extremist’ without the West leading/spoon-feeding them how to act? The West has dolled out more justice in a mere 8 + YEARS than the ‘moderate’ Islamists have in the nearly 2,000 years they’ve infected the weak minded.
To reason with and give undue respect to those who blindly follow a nomadic despicable and hateful religion which hasn’t contributed to society as a whole in 1,300 + years is asinine.
Something lost on the Crumley’s and like ‘minded’ boobs in the West and other PC gone amuck areas.
I used to have a muhammedan coworker who considered himself extremely moderate.
In his view, that meant he only beat his wife a few times a week (his own admission, in his words to beat her meant to keep her happy as it was a gentle reminder of what disobedience would bring).
It meant checking our female muslim employees several times a day to make sure they were properly dressed in their hijabs and niqabs.
It meant being away from the office every friday afternoon to attend prayer.
It meant refusing to be in the same room with our Jewish employees.
All this in Amsterdam, not Casablanca or Ankara…
1) Beware of overgeneralizations:
- many minorities in Islam are brutally persecuted by Sunni or Shia majorities in their respective countries of origin: Ahamaddiyas (Pakistan), Bahai & Ismailis (Iran), Sufis (Saudi Arabia), etc.;
- such minorities, as well as most mainstream Muslims, have shown extraordinary adaptative skills in democractic societies where they have thrived (often as professionals) and become productive and dedicated citizens (for ex. the mayor of Calgary, Naheed Nenshi: http://www.nenshi.ca/new/about).
2) Two excellent a contrario arguments:
- the disastrous consequences of the expulsion of Ismaelis from Uganda by Idi Amin;
- the Shafia case, in Kingston (Ontario): the father is suspected to have murdered his 3 daughters precisely because they were adapting too well to Canadian customs, for example by their clothes and behavior with non-family males. As a Muslim friend of mine said: this is a crime of DIShonor as well as folly. No man of sound mind would propose to sh… on the graves of his own daughters.
3) The French language legends on Charlie Hebdo’s famous front page (reproduced besides the title on PJM’s front page; see also at http://www.upjf.org/fr/4441-le-siege-parisien-de-) is: “Mohammed left behind by fundamentalists”(Mahomet débordé par les intégristes) and “It is tough to be loved by idiots” (C’est dur d’être aimé par des cons). A much more subtle message than some critics would like us to believe …
Hey Sojourners – let’s start really thinking about how to handle this Islamic mess that is engulfing our country and heating up blog sites across the land
For a start – I invite you all to read Dr. Peter Hammond’s book:
“Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.
Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table.
And one of the first is Shari a Law!”
These people have been creeping out of their sand traps for years – and early on they just took over neighboring sand traps – killed a lot of other sand people and rounded up more slaves and converts. They also make a lot of baby sand people – most infant Musses are rather thin and many die of malnutrition – many that survive the early years are trained in the art of bomb making – advancing to the sought after position of ‘bomb wearer’ and then reaching the warrior mode of ‘the big bang’!
Proud Muslim parents visit bus stations and shopping malls looking for bits of little Abdu that may still be imbedded on the twisted buses and shattered restaurant ceilings.
The removal of the jerks that postulate from towers to their followers should be the first step in cleaning up the neighborhood – no more towers – no more Mosques and no more Shari a Law!
Stop the infestation of the United States by this scourge that has but one goal – ‘to destroy us’.
Where is the left when men are being tortured and executed for being gay? Where are the feminists when women are being stoned to death for the crime of being raped?
They are silent because they don’t give a damn about gays or women. They only care about their power.
“cheese-eating surrender monkeys”?! Isn’t that offensive to the French? Do you think maybe they should protest and firebomb springfield? Or any other office/publication/person that has used it since that first time on the “Simpsons”?
“cheese-eating surrender monkeys”?! Isn’t that offensive to the French? Do you think maybe they should protest and firebomb springfield? Or any other office/publication/person that has used it since that first time on the “Simpsons”?
Professional liberal do-gooders like Crumley, Kitfield, and their ilk are a cowardly lot and are the reason why the West is losing the war to Islam. They are to be shunned, tarred, and feathered for bending over backward to Muslim fanatics and killing free speech/freedom of expression in the name of political correctness and multiculturalism.
Thankfully …the Canadian Parliament….
Ezra Levant & Mark Steyn: Section 13 & Obama
http://www.youtube.com/user/sdamatt2#p/u/5/KPQtwoUc4Zw