On Being American Enough
But the question isn’t whether the president’s vision of what American can be is different from that of most of the country; the question revolves around that vision’s legitimacy as emanating from deep within the American soul, and whether it fulfills a longing in the American heart for “true” justice and equality.
The Founders were eminently practical men, well read in the classics, believing they had learned the lessons of history about the dangers of concentrated power and the evil of which all men are capable. It’s what historian Page Smith refers to as a “Classical Christian Consciousness,” where recognition of man’s fallen state as well as a dose of public virtue were more likely to keep us free than the alternative. This he described as a “Secular Democratic Consciousness,” heavily influenced by the European enlightenment, saw man as basically good and his faults correctable.
Having faith in the ultimate goodness of mankind and the perfectibility of its institutions was the vision of the Jeffersonians, while the majority of the Founders believed in creating safeguards against the depredations of evil men and guaranteeing the natural rights of citizens. The resulting clash over the centuries of these two visions as the best way to achieve justice and liberty has defined an America that lurches between spurts of progressive reform and conservative restraint and retrenchment.
Barack Obama’s ideas are firmly rooted in the former of these visions. It is a belief that government institutions are perfectable; that the unintended consequences of his massive efforts to tear down the old and build up the new in health care, finance, the free market, and other areas are controllable and indeed, necessary in order to achieve the ultimate goal of creating a “more perfect union.” Whatever huge dislocations arise because of his policies must be accepted so that his notions of “justice” and “equality” can evolve.
If the path to achieve this vision takes America off the rails laid down by the Founders, this is a small price to pay in order to realize a just society. Here he is in a now famous 2001 interview laying down his belief of where the Constitution is deficient in matters of justice and equality:
[A]s radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as it’s been interpreted, and the Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can’t do to you. Says what the federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf.
And that hasn’t shifted and one of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was because the civil rights movement became so court-focused I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change. In some ways we still suffer from that.
There is nothing new in Obama’s pining for “positive rights.” to augment or supersede the more familiar “negative rights” which are the rock-ribbed basis of original intent of the Founders — to proscribe what government could not do to individuals. The positive rights doctrine has picked up support during the last 100 years as a means to “perfect” society and cure the perceived ills of unequal distribution of income and unfair advantages of the white majority.
Obama’s visions and dreams are rooted in the American experience and are therefore as American as the vision and dreams of his opponents. His is not an “alien” vision for America. It is radical. It is extreme. It violates first principles. It stretches the meaning and intent of the Constitution to the breaking point. It is not mindful of the consequences of change, nor is it practical, workable, reasonable, or prudent.
But despite the president’s radical vision, his dreams of what America can become probably aren’t much different than yours or mine. Who wouldn’t want a more just society, a more tolerant society, a society more equal in opportunity? It is not the destination that divides us but rather the road that must be followed to get there that separates us.
In this respect, President Obama is “American enough.” He may lack the emotional touchstones that define heartfelt patriotism, and deny the ultimate specialness of America that gives us all pride and a purpose to achieve and excel. But that doesn’t make him any less an American than anyone else.
And neither you nor I have the competence to make that judgment in the first place. If America is more a state of mind than a country, then certainly it has room for different visions of what it is capable of achieving for its citizens. That doesn’t mean that implementing his vision shouldn’t be opposed with every ounce of energy and every fiber of our being. But we can do it without branding the president as “not American enough.”
America was not founded on the concepts of “justice and equality,” that is what the French revolution was about. America was founded on the notions of “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” Equality before the law is an American concept but equality of outcome (i.e., sameness) is not. Additionally, “redistribution” is also not an American concept, in fact, Samuel Adams specifically stated it was unconstitutional. He said, “The utopian schemes of leveling [redistribution of wealth], and a community of goods, are as visionary and impracticable as those that vest all property in the Crown. [These ideas] are arbitrary, despotic, and, in our government, unconstitutional.”
I will agree that Obama’s ideas and ideology are not new and a minority of Americans have shared them for over the past 100 years. But that does not make those ideas American.
The many on the right need only the patriotic application of the constitution to the “different dreams” of the few for either patriotic or treasonous classification when application and enforcement of said dreams are imposed from any elected or appointed office on the people and publicly described as overthrow to the established government. Chances of any such action passing through the quagmire of quicksand appointed judges is highly unlikely considering risks of the many deeply involved. Would any executive order qualify a lone imposter?
The Redistribution already happened. It was called the Bush years.
“As an intended consequence of the Bush tax cuts, the share of federal taxes paid by the bottom 80% of taxpayers has increased, while the share paid by the top 1% has dropped. And that’s before the elimination of the estate tax scheduled to take effect at the end of the decade, which will further reduce taxes on the wealthiest households. President Bush has repeatedly announced that the main economic priority of his second term will be making his tax cuts permanent. If he realizes this goal, he will have succeeded in passing the most regressive tax program in U.S. history. He will also have chosen tax relief for the rich over strengthening the Social Security system on which low-income workers, disabled workers, widows, and surviving children depend to avoid poverty. The tax code already favors those at the top. High-income households can afford to buy or build larger homes to take advantage of the tax deduction for mortgage interest payments. The top 20% of earners receives more than two-thirds of the benefits from tax deductions for private retirement savings. Most Americans are deeply in debt, and 95% can’t afford to take advantage of such deductions. Yet President Bush wants to make them even more generous.”
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_44/b3906038_mz007.htm
These policies and two wars destroyed the economy.
You would either have to be stupid or evil to vote republican if your not in the top 3%.
Do a little more research. Businessweek is just plain wrong. Approximately 50% of Americans do not pay any federal income tax at all. So I am not sure where it comes up with this 80% figure. Additionally, the percentage that the top 10% of wage earners in the U.S. paid in federal income tax increased significantly subsequent to the Bush tax cuts.
However, in a sense you are correct, redistribution did increase during Bush. The rich paid a higher percentage of federal income tax receipts while those at lower levels paid even less or none at all.
Whether I am stupid or evil is of no matter. What counts are the facts. So, let’s just assume I am both evil and stupid, not to mention sexist, intolerant, xenophopic, homophobic, islamophobic, racist and bigoted. Did I leave anything out?
What Orwellian nonsense to say that a tax system that takes more from the “rich” somehow “favors” the “rich.” If someday the “rich” pay less than the “poor” then you can say the system favors the “rich.” We are not free as long as any man has the fruit of his labor forcibly confiscated and given to another. We, supposedly, put an end to that under Lincoln. When the modern slave masters redistribute slightly less of other peoples’ money than you want redistributed that is a “favor” only inasmuch as giving an old style slave one fewer lashes with the whip could be called a “favor.”
Rick Moran writes, “Having faith in the ultimate goodness of mankind and the perfectibility of its institutions was the vision of the Jeffersonians, while the majority of the Founders believed in creating safeguards against the depredations of evil men and guaranteeing the natural rights of citizens.”
RUBBISH.
Go to the Jefferson Memorial and read just the few quotes on the walls.
It is abundantly clear from these words alone that the above is the opposite of the truth.
Liar!
The only question *I* have is: What reason does Mr. Moran have to set up this strawman/falsehood?!
The answer to your question is found later on in Moran’s screed: Moran wants to promote SOCIALISM as an American value/tradition. THAT IS ANATHEMA TO AMERICA AND EXPOSES MORAN’S THINKING FOR THE PROPAGANDA IT IS!
Moran attempts to LEGITIMIZE “positive rights” vis a vis the U.S. Constitution with fuzzy, comforting words. But this poison is nothing less than a Trojan Horse, AND MORAN KNOWS IT.
He exhibits here nothing less than his MORAL and INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY.
Have you studied Jefferson at all or just read the words on the Jefferson Monument?
Maybe you could give us your view of Jefferson’s embracing of the French Revolution?
I think that Moran’s point that Jefferson represents the “other” side in the views of the Founders is reasonable. It is quaint how many who worship the Founders prefer the Conservative Digest view (twenty cherry-picked quotes including “the tree of liberty being watered with the blood of patriots…(think about that in the context of the guillotine)” of Jefferson. He was a lot more radical, contradictory, and politically pragmatic/treacherous than most of us would be comfortable with.
So, you’ll gladly cherrypick Jefferson to suit a rationalization of infusing America with Socialism?
NO THANKS!
Because Jefferson said a number of things that support the view of human perfectability. Jefferson held a vast, contradictory portfolio of principles.
And Jefferson often applied those contradictory principles whenever they suited his purpose.
Do you wish to be addressed as RUBBISH, or as LIAR?
Moran has it right; but is too mild in his critique of the Traitor-In-Chief.
Obama has an history of flagburning. Thats the kind of “American” he is.
He is a pathological liar. He identifies himself as a Christian to american
audiences, and as a Moslem to islamic audiences. He loves to kill babies and promote homosexual perversion. Thats the kind of guy he is. Birds of a feather flock together. ‘Nuff said.
A: Nope.
But *I* am not the one pushing/rationalizing a Socialist agenda for America by couching it in pseudo-educated trash. Why do *you* seem comfortable with it, if you consider Obama to be Traitor-in-Chief?
Very good point. The Founding Fathers were not utopians. They did not believe in the perfectibility of our institutions, as much as they believed in working to improve them. The thrust of so much of the Constitution is to limiting the power of government in matters not pertaining to the defense of the nation.
You also make a good point that the ideal of equality was not a cornerstone of the Constitution. Now, many Americans, including a disproportionate number of religious Americans(which means many conservatives) give a lot of money to charity and believe in helping the poor to raise themselves. But that is very different than a belief in forced income redistribution and the welfare ethos of statism.
Lastly, I’d recommend a piece Dorothy Rabinowtiz wrote in the WSJ about two months ago. It’s about why Obama is our first alien president- and, no, she doesn’t advance a new and improved birther argument here. She focuses on his foreign policy, namely its tone of guilt, coolness toward traditional allies, and hyper concern for the feelings of our enemies. Aside from Carter- what other president could Rick point to who sees America on such a low moral level(until now, of course, with Obama’s rise)?
Having a different vision does not make him less an American. Provided he loves America and thinks implementing his vision would be good for it.
Jane Fonda has a different vison too but do you really think the woman who aided North Vietnam and the Khmer Rouge, who disn’t lmose a minute of sleep for the genocides she contributed to make possible, loves America and wants the best for it?
The question is: Does Obama love America and wants the best for it?
“…generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can’t do to you. Says what the federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf.”–The Dolt in the White House
That’s because that topic is already covered in the founding document of this country, the Declaration of Independence.
Too bad Obambi, like the rest of the members of his vile political party, have never had the slightest interest in what it says. They’ve always been too busy enslaving people, forcing people into the army to fight some idiotic war in Europe or Asia, packing innocent folks off to concentration camps, inventing tax systems to force the citizenry into de facto slavery, and pursuing their various other tyrannical hobbies to be bothered with actually doing what they’re supposed to do, or even finding out what it is they’re supposed to do.
Governments exist to secure the rights of those it governs, fool. That’s what they MUST do on your behalf.
If you were a real American, you would know that.
‘But we can do it without branding the president as “not American enough.”’
Maybe you can, but I can’t. Culturally, he’s pretty damned Americanized, politically speaking, he belongs in the old Soviet Union.
And because the topic is covered in the Tenth Amendment, which denies to the Federal Government any powers not delegated to it in the Constitution. To insanely contend that, to “promote the general welfare” Congress may do anything they wish, is to ignore/deny all of the specific permissions given within the document. Why not just say, “general welfare” and leave out all the rest; all the specific powers enumerated?
The issue is the same with respect to Scripture. May one do anything not expressly forbidden? Or may one do only that which is authorized? If all things displeasing to God were specifically listed, no man living could tote a Bible. Col.3.17 says that we are to all that we do in the name(authority) of Jesus Christ. Ergo, lacking a scriptural authority a given behavior is anathema. Thats the same way the tenth Amendment works.
The erroneous view that Congress may do as it wishes as long as it intends to “promote the general welfare” has the necessary and unacceptable consequence that Congress is free to ignore all the other restraints imposed upon it by that same constitution. That view emasculates the Constitution and renders it meaningless; as Judge Bork wisely observed.
Mr. Moran you are the last person who has any business or right to judge the competence of anyone. You do not have any business or right speaking for anyone but yourself either. In short you are not god.
If you want to make an accurate assessment about what the American people think that a real American is, including Obama then stick to what they are saying instead of trying to super-infuse your cockamamie logic into the picture as somehow being the truth of the matter.
Loud, disrespectful, boisterous, arrogant, flippant, mocking , insulting, America hating, white race hating, Jewish people hating, dictatorial, tyrannical actions and character are not the kind of things that Americans see as being an American.
But, they are a few of the things that Americans have come to recognize as being Barrack Obama.
This is the most foolish, most completely baseless article I’ve seen on Pajamas Media. Moran has coated the bottom of the PJM barrel for a while, With this unreasoned dithyramb to “the American soul” and Obama’s imputed desire for “a more just society, a more tolerant society, a society more equal in opportunity,” he’s scratched a hole in the bottom.
Let’s try an objective approach to Americanism. What criteria independent of anyone’s intentions or “soul” might we apply?
– Formal considerations: Citizenship or naturalization; place of residence.
– Political considerations: Acceptance of the Constitution of the United States as the Supreme Law of the Land, and the rules and processes it dictates as binding on its governments and their agents.
– Geopolitical considerations: Unflinching support of the American interest in any conflict with other nations, whether diplomatic or martial.
Formally, many persons doubt that Barack Hussein Obama is legitimately president, owing to the uncertainty surrounding his birth and citizenship. However, the hard evidence on this subject has been denied to us, so we must pass it over for future scholars to ponder.
Politically, there is no doubt: Obama does not recognize the Constitution as binding on him or his minions. Neither does he adhere to the processes it dictates that discriminate between legitimate and illegitimate federal action. This is not unprecedented for a federal official, even for an occupant of the White House, but it’s highly significant nonetheless.
Geopolitically, once again there is no doubt: Obama has worked steadfastly to weaken the United States vis-a-vis other nations. He has apologized to other nations for America’s actions in its own interest and defense. He has pandered to America’s sworn enemies while insulting, spurning, and undercutting our allies. Many would say that such actions as he’s taken internationally should be judged on their consequences…but by that standard, Obama’s departure from American allegiance is even clearer.
So, on two out of three objective standards for Americanism, Obama fails miserably; on the third, the verdict has not yet been returned. A fourth perspective, that of diligent attention to one’s duties as an elected official, makes it plain that such a creature as Barack Hussein Obama could not have attained federal office without recourse to subterfuge, intimidation, and violence.
If I am an American — and by the standards I’ve delineated above, I have as good a claim to that status as any man alive — then Barack Hussein Obama is not.
He may be American, just not North American
Poretto, you’re “all that”, and “you’ve got it goin’on!”
Thanks, Francis.
Your response was so good I printed it out to read to my family. I hope you don’t mind.
God bless you and God save the Republic.
Linda
“Having a different vision of what America should be doesn’t make President Obama
less of an American than anyone else.”
But what his vision is as opposed to just being another vision–that makes him unamerican.
Mr. Moran is a squish that needs to go back and read what Jefferson, Paine, De Tocqueville and others had to say about nanny state government.
I’m sorry, Mr. Moran, but Obama is indeed anti-American in his desire to invert the relationship between the citizen and the state. Enablers like Mr. Moran who rationalize those assaulting this nation’s founding principles are a big part of our problems – they are the ratchet action that ensures a one-way path of continued decline.
“In this respect, President Obama is “American enough.” He may lack the emotional touchstones that define heartfelt patriotism, and deny the ultimate specialness of America that gives us all pride and a purpose to achieve and excel. But that doesn’t make him any less an American than anyone else.”
Yes it does.
“And neither you nor I have the competence to make that judgment in the first place.”
Yes we do. It is why we retain arms and why that right is intended to be protected from political interference by the 2nd amendment, because ultimately politics is subsidiary to conscience, because here–in this place at least–it is our job to start shooting long before Niemoller’s lament gets past the second line.
If he had the pull to amend it, he might at least claim he’s obeying the letter of the law, but as it is he’s just a thief with too many thieving friends to lock up right now.
And yes, the view of Jeffersonianism you put forth is so far off as to be comical in any other circumstance.
What is best in America, is what was best in 1776, and what was best done since, is only what expands and make more universal the application of those best ideals. Positive rights having been around for about 85 years in law does not make them any less unAmerican, and they are unAmerican. Propounding them is UnAmerican. Voting for them is UnAmerican. Paying for them may be prudential, but is it danegeld.
Watch us start getting rid of the Dane.
Rick has to create a straw man “not American enough” to make an irrelevant argument. The fact is that Obama is hostile to American ideals and acts like a hostile foreign agent toward our country and our allies. He’s plenty American when it comes to shooting hoops and eating fast food. But who cares?
What utter crap. Obama’s perception of what ought to be is fundamentally inimical to ALL of the bedrock beliefs held by our founders. You can’t get to where Obama wants us to go without abandoning wholesale America’s defining principles. It’s flatly absurd to state that conflict in Jefferson’s and the other founders’ views of human nature are at the root of a long-standing conflict in American politics. Their perspectives on human nature were congruent on the only dimension that matters: that our political and economic system has to accommodate people’s pursuit of their own self-interest, rather than constrain those pursuits to serve the state’s interests. That is the elemental distinction between capitalism and communism. Capitalism and human nature are consistent with each other. Communism is only practical in insect colonies, and in societies where people can be made to act like insects, like the Soviet Union, where it can be imposed only briefly and at enormous cost.
Obama’s philosophy is plainly un-American in all important respects.
Ant doesn’t look good on me.
The liberals all say “I believe in the Constitution but it is a living document. It must be viewed from the standpoint of the needs of today’s society if it is to be relevant.”
This statement, alone, is a treasonous violation of the Oath. It should be grounds for immediate removal from office.
Needs haven’t changed, just technology, which makes the living document argument absurd.
““And neither you nor I have the competence to make that judgment in the first place.””
yes we keep hearing this over and over ad nauseam from this white house and their media minion…americans are “ignorant”. and if you don’t fall in lock step with every word they say then you are an ignorant racist angry mob
i am really sick and tired of you trying to convince me of this
O’s suppoerts want us to think that the Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakahn and Frank Marshall Davis vision of America is exactly as American as the founders’ vision. Relativistic reasoning strikes again.
Through many incidents people have come to understand that this President was not culturally raised as an American. That he has to actively rehearse the fact that America has 50 states. The bizarre baseball throwing display. (Bet he’s better as kicking a soccer ball.) And at times he seems to display unusual limitations with his mastery of English for a person who gradutated from an Ivy league school. (They say his Arabic accent is beautiful.) He was actively trained to desipse America through growing up, through school and through his so called church.
He is the first Anti-American prsident.
“If the path to achieve this vision takes America off the rails laid down by the Founders, this is a small price to pay in order to realize a just society.”
Sorry, Mr. Moran, but considering the lives laid down to secure our Founders’ dream for America, it is too dear a price to pay. The Constitution says “all men are created equal,” AT BIRTH, with equal opportunity to make something of themselves….not that those who work shall be made to share with those who don’t.
That document has served us well for eleven score and fourteen years as a blueprint for remaining free. Obama, a Constitutional scholar, studied it only with an eye to circumventing it. Obama swore on a Bible — meant nothing to him, I’m sure — to uphold the Constitution of the United States, and he has spent 18 or 19 months destroying that precious document paragraph by paragraph, ideal by ideal. If his “vision of America” had anything to bolster it, he would not have to shove it down our gullets a page at a time.
The Constitution says “all men are created equal,” AT BIRTH.”
OK, this is par for the course around here for what the Constitution says (kind of the creationist version). You guys knock yourselves out so much to attack Obama, that you use (or make up, as exampled here) stuff to bash him.
Hey, I don’t care for the fact that he can’t throw a baseball like GWB, (really) but if you guys are so blinded that you can’t see that Obama is WITHIN the tradition of the Statist side of American political history (don’t forget that the Federalists were derided for being the party of “Big Government”) then you need to read some history. But when you think in black and white and only use broad brush strokes, political and historicial discussions degenerate into “so’s your mother” and “He’s a commie!” Welcome to PJM 2010!
As long as we’re going to talk about destroying the Constitution paragraph by paragraph. We should perhaps note that “all men are created equal” is not found in any of them. You’re an idiot.
Paul, you are absolutely right, and I stand corrected. The phrase “all men are created equal” was indeed not in the Constitution but in the Declaration of Independence. Thank you for pointing that out.
All my other statements stand as written.
And I am not an idiot, and you have no need to call me so.
But despite the president’s radical vision, his dreams of what America can become probably aren’t much different than yours or mine.
Rick Moran would probably enjoy a beer summit with President Obama. From a high enough altitude, Bill Ayers’s dreams of America aren’t much different either.
“But despite the president’s radical vision, his dreams of what America can become probably aren’t much different than yours or mine. Who wouldn’t want a more just society, a more tolerant society, a society more equal in opportunity?”
You are kidding of course? Dear Leader’s dreams of America and mine are 180 degrees out of sync. One of us in not American. Your drivel did not cite one thing Dear Leader said or has done that supports anything that you attribute to him. Using your debate skills, one could say that Louis Farrakan and I share the same dreams and visions of America.
Since when and where did Dear Leader state that he wants a more just, tolerant and seeks equal opportunity in our America. His “justice” is grounded in what Black Liberation Theology propounds. His “tolerance” is forced acceptance of PC because there can be no debate. His “equal opportunity” is equal outcomes, redistribution and the continued denigration of America and white Americans.
Just why does PJM allow you to write here is still a mystery.
There’s the wind-up. He swings! And he misses. Rick Moran strikes out again.
American is NOT more of a “state of mind” than a country. It is a country with a CULTURE. And that culture is expressed in millions of different ways, every day by millions of people. This president doesn’t have America in his DNA. And even some of the most hardened left wingers “get it”. Obama can’t even hate America…like an American. That canard about being a “state of mind” has been pushed by the Marxists for decades now as way of getting more and more Americans to fracture along cultural lines and to accept even more “exotic” immigrants to celebrate our “diversity” and multiculturalism”, two Marxist constructs to sell noxious concepts guaranteed to break us apart even faster. There was a time when we could say we had a common language, common schooling experiences, shared many cultural experiences with others in the country etc. These shared backgrounds were part of the “glue” that kept us feeling part of a whole. To say that all this does not matter and that it can be replaced with a set of abstractions that are a state of mind is a …mind blower. Obama is “unsettling” because people are not stupid and they may not have the right words to describe their visceral reactions to his “Americaness” but they KNOW IT WHEN THEY SEE (FEEL) IT. He does not pass the smell test. Call it whatever you wish. An atavistic primal survival skill? You have set forth some intellectual arguments that will never overcome the EMOTIONAL dimension because people, deep down, know a fraud when they see one. And all your scolding and scorn won’t make a difference. The idea that America is JUST AN IDEA is a load of multicultural bullcrap and to see it peddled by the pen of Rick Moran is an eyeopener. To say the least.
“There was a time when we could say we had a common language, common schooling experiences, shared many cultural experiences with others in the country etc. These shared backgrounds were part of the “glue” that kept us feeling part of a whole. To say that all this does not matter and that it can be replaced with a set of abstractions that are a state of mind is a …mind blower.”
Your own words “there was a time” seem to acknowledge that this time has passed. We have to play the hand that we are dealt, right?
Maybe you should list some of the specifics of your allegedly concrete (as opposed to abstract) view of what America is. Aaron Burr, Alexander Hamilton, Benedict Arnold (one of our greatest generals) Andrew Jackson, Jefferson Davis, Sacco and Vanzetti, Woodrow Wilson, and Jimmy Carter. Bill Clinton, GWB, Newt Gingrich and Harry Reid. That’s America, eh?
Yes they are. No doubt about it. But that STILL DOESN’T MAKE THE 44th PRESIDENT (a QUISLING) an AMERICAN. You obviously “get” what I was communicating because your response was made to provoke. Thank you. You just emphasized my point.
Well, shoot. Then obama may be right after all about not bothering with paperwork for anyone who wants to walk into the country and start taking cash and services out of the system without having put anything in or without actually being an immigrant.
He’s probably right about all the mindless deficit spending as well. Who says our nation has to keep doing things the way those before have (generally) tried to do things? (like preparing a budget and trying to live by it).
He’s probably right as well about the Ft. Hood murderer, too. Who on earth has the right to conclude that the murderer yelling allelu ackbar (if you notice, “ackbar” is barack spelled inside out)…who on earth has the right to conclude that perhaps he was influenced by Islam?
If we can just get past the nausea and learn to think in the elevated manner suggested by the writer here, Vlad Putin is American enough. Actually, come to think of it, with his personal competence in hunting, his charisma in addressing cameras without teleprompters, his ability to go toe-to-toe with international opposition to his nation….crap, I think Putin really IS “American enough.” In fact, if “being American” can be made a zero sum game, then I think we should exchange obama for Putin. Putin is more than “American enough” in my opinion.
PJM wouldn’t be the first site I stopped reading because they went south. This level of clouded, destructive and goofy thinking can be picked up on the networks. It was my understanding that PJM was intended to reflect something extra-MSM. Oh, well. Live and learn.
Keep those ears blocked and eyes closed, especially when you hear or see something which challenges what you FEEL.
Thanks (/s) ‘Dwight’, for showing everybody here what an expert you are in Leftist prattle.
“Keep your mind closed” indeed.
Keep practicing, sonny, and someday…just someday…SOMEONE will call you “smug”!
Won’t YOU be proud then?!
Other than filling in words for an article, who really cares what Obama thinks, feels or how his internal meters point?
Just vote him and the Democrats out of office. Actions, folks, not BS tells you all yo need to know.
“But despite the president’s radical vision, his dreams of what America can become probably aren’t much different than yours or mine. Who wouldn’t want a more just society, a more tolerant society, a society more equal in opportunity?”
If his vision is so wonderfully “American” why did he have to lie about his vision to get elected?
When did he lie, I do wonder?? He’s generally followed his agenda, of course as best as he possibly can being that no president can fully keep their agenda, due to politics being what it is in democracy
Nothing flies without both a left and right wing. It’s more a question of balance and flying in the same direction, isn’t it?
Good line about the need for left and right wings. Alas, that’s news to a lot of people here. And both fly in a similar direction; toward re-election.
Yes, but the heart always beats in the middle.
This article was painful to read. The comments more than made up for it.
Who dropped THIS turd in the PJM punch bowl? If you keep letting crap like this through, I will go elsewhere for my alternate news.
Obubu isn’t an American in the first place. He was born in Kenya and educated in Islamic Indonesia. His continual attemps to hide his foreign birth by giving us questionable info like the Hawaiian birth record is just laughable. He should be impeached for that alone.
His so-called vision of America is himself as King and the remainder of the people as either vassals or serfs. How many vacations has he had already? If America had any balls, we’d have already taken to the streets.
Mr. Moran – Perhaps you need to try writing for the Huffington Post or the Daily Beast. I’m not sure why PJM would even allow this to be on their site. You should be kicked off of PJM! Then you could write an article about not being Conservative enough…
All in all a pretty reasonable and even-handed assessment. Hence the shrieking from the right. It’s utopia that conservatives seek – mythical, narrow, isolated, homogenous, regressive – a trip back to childhood when the tough matters of the day were handled by the adults, leaving them free to play cowboys and Indians.
That’s the problem with conservatives, they never grow up, never gain the wisdom and courage it takes to deal with the challenges of the real world. They “stand on the Constitution” because it gives them an excuse to claim membership in the “real Americans” club, to imbue themselves with a special kind of fervor and virtue that excludes anyone who disagrees with them, to dress up in puffy shirts and three-cornered hats. But when the Constitution gives someone else the right to do something that conservatives don’t like, suddenly the Constitution doesn’t matter.
Conservative principle? It’s JD Hayworth decrying government largess while hawking National Grants – “free money from the government that you never have to pay back!” It’s Fox News hiding the fact that its second largest shareholder is funding Park 51.
Why do conservatives do such things? For same reason Sarah Palin tossed aside her commitments to the people who elected her, the same reason Glenn Beck keeps trotting out books and universities and “you’ll witness a miracle” tent revivals, the same reason conservatives do anything – for the money.
Does Obama love America and want the best for it? Absolutely. And he’s taking the tough steps necessary to save it from the domestic jingoism that flattened its moral standing and financial potential. Sorry, but just because you want to eat corn dogs and cheese popcorn and layer cake for very meal doesn’t mean the government needs to support you in that.
Children.
I absolutely agree, but liberal go nuts in the other direction, get completely caught up in the newest thing, and then have to call in these yahoos to lurch elsewhere. And God bless the United States of America. We are all experts at identify the evil and folly around us, but not so good at figuring out exactly what we should do.
Nice long post saying absolutely zero, but implying alot. That’s what a degree out of the sears catalog will get you. Nice digs though. Quite impressive.
Thank you, Ellie Light.
The best thing that government can do is to let people be as free from regulation and coercion as possible.
I government that heads in that direction, of individual responsibility and liberty, is a government headed in the right direction.
That is why Ronald Reagan was such a success.
Obama is headed in the other direction of state control and collectivist responsibility.
The end of that road is weakness and chaos and has been every time it has been tried.
Whether in Nazi Germany, Facist Italy, Socialist Britain or Marxist Soviet Union.
Individual freedom and individual responsibility is what made America great.
I do not question what is in Mr. Obama’s heart. I do not question his beliefs. However, I will question his speeches, and his actions. Is he a fellow citizen American who believes he’s doing the best he can for this country? There is little doubt on that point. However, that doesn’t mean his views of the Constitution, the role of Government, or the Economy are compatible with what is supposed to be taught in an American Civics class.
I think Moran should ask Soros for a little more in the paycheck this month. The man’s earned a bonus. George could have written this himself.
And perhaps a little extra something for “Betty Knows” @27, even if she is a relative.
That’s the problem with you conservatives – you think everything is about money.
No, Betty, I just want the liberals to READ the bills they pass first, rather than saying “we’ll figure out what’s IN the legislatioin and its cost later.” Our founders were not fulltime politicians; they worked farms or businesses, too. Now we have a bunch of career rule-makers who have NEVER met a payroll, NEVER dealt with the bureaucracy it takes to keep a business running, etc. Too many lawyers running our country with too many professors advising them.
Rick, you, too, need to review your history.
Or maybe he wrote this after smoking a couple of those “funny cigarettes”?
The question is not whether he is American enough rather whether he is American at all!!! When we see his anti-American behavior in everything American, apologizing to Muslims in Muslim countries for American intrusions in the world, forcing his concept of social justice aka communism for spreading wealth, health care bill, immigration bill(open borders)and amnesty to illegals, always against the will of Americans, etc, certainly casts a doubt if He is American at all. He wants to demolish the America that existed until he came on the scene. Americans do not care for nor do they want it.
Right, Rick; There are top level agents in Al Qaeda and the Taliban that are american citizens, too!
They’ll be visiting the United Nations, giving speeches, and praying at the ‘Victory Mosque’ in New York very soon.
They are some of the most prominent Americans, AND THEY HATE US!
ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT WITH THE ‘REPARATIONS’, TOO?
Mr. Moran, You have proven once again what a dimwit you are. You are so confused about America and it’s values that you not even on the same page with half of us.
America IS exceptional. America is a state of mind, fire in a heart and your president has none of it. Equality before the law, not in abilities. All men (and women) are not the same. Taking from John to pay Paul is a Socialist concept. Paul does not create any values, John does. And you and your president need to understand this. Also, I doubt you ever will.
Take this from a first generation immigrant from socialist country. I have been through this before.
I’m terribly sorry, but this has to be one of the worst articles I’ve ever read here. Based on many false suppositions, Mr. Moran shows us that he has no concept of the soul of Americanism, and then proceeds to snidely tell us we have no idea either.
I hope you’ll take this the way it’s intended: I’ve forgotten more about this great country than you or Barack Obama will ever know. I see the efforts to undermine our country every day by his administration, primarily through the mischaracterizations and fairy tales folks like you spin. President Obama’s vision of America was filtered and distorted through his radical family and friends, remember, the radical ones he always sought as friends so he wouldn’t appear to be “sellout”?
Indeed, our founders were quite familiar with the foibles of human nature, particularly when it comes to the intoxicating allure of power over another. They recognized the inherent dangers of government and sought to protect the people from those who would seek not to enforce the basic right of the people to be left alone, but those who would instead seek to engorge their ego with power and stick their nose into situations where it did not belong and certainly wasn’t welcome.
So, I’m terribly sorry, once again, to say this: Obama isn’t American enough, for me and for most of the country. Ask yourself, what citizen would seek the suffering of his fellow citizen by wanting to implement a policy that would make everyones’ utility bills “necessarily skyrocket”? What would be the point of such a law other than to harm a country and its people? What special kind of contempt would you have for your fellow citizens to dream up something as destructive as that?
Since he wasn’t raised here and his family seemed far more concerned with studying radical political theory than providing a stable and loving home life, he missed out on some of the best years of growing up American. One need look no further than his actions in office to confirm his intentions to fundamentally transform this nation into something it was never intended to be through an abandonment of the principles of its Founders.
We, as a country, see it. It’s a shame you don’t.
I’m sorry Mr. Moran, but you are flat out wrong. The United States of America was founded upon the principle of Natural Rights. President Obama does not believe in that principle. He does not believe in what this country is about.
Caring about the border defined land (which he doesn’t believe in either, “we are not defined by our borders” http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=37131)
is not the measure of what it means to be an American. It is about caring about our founding principles.
No sale, Moran.
By your reasoning, any vision at all would always be “American,” simply because an American citizen espouses it.
I agree. I agree emphatically. It’s just why can’t the President and Democrats talk and write like this? Why can’t they see the commonalities? Why hurl the the Phobia and Neocon labels instead to avoid reasoned argument?
All my life I voted for Democrats from McGovern to Gore, and then when I support Bush on a war Clinton had convinced me must be fought, I find myself charged with blood-for-oil on my hands.
Who’s American-enough didn’t start with Obama. It started with Bush lied. The GOP solidly supports Obama on Af-Pak. There may be reasons to leave now, and it may be a dumb war, but the GOP shows a loyal opposition to Obama the Democrats could never muster for Bush. They did a huge disservice to America, not unAmerican, but dreadful for America. It’s one a lot of us can’t forget. Replay Reid’s The War Lost, or MoveOn’s General BetrayUs for recall.
Obama’s vision of America. I share much of it. It’s the tactics his party used, and he still uses, that damage. It’s what pushing me to think those Tea Party Libertarians may be on to something when they contrast Positive and Negative rights.
I am at a loss for words. I don’t think you understand the mindset of the founding fathers of the US, Rick. They were very skeptical men. I think the debate is usually framed as Jefferson vs. Adams, but it was really Adams vs. Jefferson vs. Jefferson. As a poster above indicated, Jefferson had contradictory ideas about human nature. But in general they wanted to protect citizens from government because they feared human nature. They did not want monarchs.
So, the question is, does BHO see himself as a monarch who knows better than the founders and better than the people in what is supposed to be a constitutional republic? Well, he has said that the Constitution has to be updated in a reparations-oriented way. His actions make clear his socialist intent. His globalism is shown in his desperate attempts to fold Islam into the world community.
Barack Obama is redefining Americanism. Most specifically, he is harbinger and agent of creeping Sharia and the attempt to create an international economic system in which being a jihadist is no bar to entry. Instead, it gives you favored status. I believe he was deeply involved in the GZM attempts. His friends’ fingerprints were all over the flotilla. He demonstrates a strong natural attraction to Chavez, Putin, etc.
The fact that many of the elites agree with them only makes them ‘un-American.’ It does not make him more American.
Say more about Adams vs Jefferson vs Jefferson and spare us your rambling paranoia about Obama. Sharia?
They are openly working on making the financial system ‘compatible’ with Sharia. Since you are simply here to block facts from emerging, you have no other choice than to call names. You’re not even good at it.
Really? So am here to “block facts from emerging?” Nope.
I just happen to be more interested in the elucidation of the Adams vs Jefferson vs Jefferson concept, as you might be able to present it, than in your latest rant about Obama or Sharia. So call me an antiquarian, and I will plead guilty, but for a group of people who, one might imagine, know something about the Founders, the founding principles, and how they were, or were not, put into practice, the talk here tends to lean to bluster, rumor, and Obama bashing. Obama is just another President. He may prove to be a good one…or a bad one, but too many people here would rather talk about the end-time days. Whatever floats your boat, but I find it overblown.
“Overblown”?!
For a so-called antiquarian, you certainly have an allergic reaction to history (oh yes: and to conservatives as well): HORSEBLINDERS.
I haven’t seen your “smug outrage” on Leftist sites, where the ostensible one-sidedness has been de rigeur for decades, so I don’t buy your contempt here and now.
“Overblown” impresses – much less CONVINCES – anyone here, so speak up or shut up.
“Overblown” impresses – much less CONVINCES – anyone here, so speak up or shut up.
I think that you are missing a word or two here, because this makes no sense. Or maybe you mean “no one here.’
And you haven’t seen my “smug outrage on leftist sites.” What are you talking about? You monitor leftist sites for my posts and would recognize them if they appeared? Get a grip.
Sharia, I don’t think Obama’s policies are in express support of any of the many forms of Sharia law. Funny how little you know about Sharia, its not one school of laws but many, and the more fundamentalist versions are actually not the oldest or the largest schools. Some of those systems influenced Western European law. Do some research and learn something new.
Let us get over this thing about culture, idealism, and all of the other “isms.” The subject is about power and the American way of life. Simply, Obama and his league wish to consolidate and centralize power while the constitutional plan was to assure that it stayed decentralized and distributed amongst the many, be they corporation, state, or individuals.
Obama’s apology tour was about taking ownership of America’s faults, hence America and consolidating, in imagination, the responsibility of all of American history.
Again, no matter how sincerely the crocodile crys, his agenda is too eat it all. In God we trust, not secular progressive rock star, flim flam personalities with soothing and authoratative voices and globalists.
‘Being American’ about something seems a bit of a philosophical red herring to me.
It may come to be a question of whether there will be any America left to be American about if Obama takes everything down the collectivist/coercive slope.
The Founding Fathers’ principles to limit the power of the ‘elite’ were simple, effective and sound.
The reasoning in this artcle seems to be touching on the post modern.
Post Modernism reletavism is a luxury of thought built on the freedom and material well being of the society that the Founding Fathers principles helped create.
Ultimately there is no getting away from reality.
In reading this, I was struck that Rick Moran must live his life by the credos “All opinions are of equal value”, “Everything is relative…” and “All roads lead to the same place…”
Sheer foolishness…
Mr. Moran:
“Having a different vision of what America should be doesn’t make President Obama less of an American than anyone else.”
Yes it does.
An America that shops out it’s domestic laws to foreign courts and foreign treaties is not America, and those who promote this transnationalism are not Americans.
An America that is Socialist is not America, and those who support the idea of a government that can take all you own to give you what IT thinks that you are entitled to are not Americans.
An America where Islamic Shari’a law is sanctioned is not America, and those who would even think of contemplating such a thing in the name of “tolerance” or “diversity” or any other such “multi-culti” claptrap are not Americans.
An America that does not secure it’s borders and deport illegal aliens is not America…it is Northern Mexico. And those who do not insist on our zealous enforcement of our national sovereignty are not Americans.
Honestly, Mr. Moran, you must be kept around PJM as some kind of inside joke “pet”.
Were not you among those here just a year ago or so who was lecturing us all about the need for the GOP to reject “conservatives” and to move leftwards in order to remain electoral viability?
Yes, I think you indeed WERE one of those. Boy, THAT meme proved to be about as deep as a puddle of piss on a steel deck plate, huh? But it didn’t stop you and your compatriots from flogging it for about six straight months or so.
What were some of those gems you wrote?
“Splenetic Conservatives”
“Coccooning our way to Irrelevance?”
“Age of Obama”
…uhhhh-huh! Ho-KAY!
Why don’t you go and soak your head, pardner…I think it might be overheating and causing you to write ridiculous rubbish again.
I’m just trying to keep you from once again embarrassing yourself.
After reading the article I intenedto write a strong rebuttal, however many have already adequatly done so. Why were Mr. Moran’s thoughts even published? Seems to me to be basic nonsense.
‘DIVERSITY’ for PJM?
” In truth, it comes down to a difference in vision and dreams. Does anyone have the right to dismiss someone else’s vision of what America should be?”
There you go. This is what i call “Constitutional Relativism”. It is not a merely a difference in vision and dreams. It is about adhering to the basic principle of individual freedom that the Constitution is designed to promote on one hand, and blatantly deliberately acting in ways harmful not only to those principles, but to actual material well-being of people of this country. The latter is called TREASON. A traitor’s vision of america is not, and should not be, made morally equivalent to those of the founding fathers. Only a supremely blind person on the Right would engage in, and promote, such chicanery.
These dummies still can;t figure out the obvious—your communist/fascist enemy whom you claim to have defeated in 1992, has been imported home, and has taken control of your government. ENEMY. No country can survive by promoting the enemy’s ‘viewpoint’ and ‘dream’ of what IT, the country, should become. And only way to survive this hostage situation is —total demolition of the enemy forces. Not by pandering to moral equivalency canard of the enemy.
Well that certainly simplifies things; there is my side and there is TREASON. Got it.
Playing an idiot or being an idiot? You know very well what the poster meant, I hope. If not, then you are one of those, to whom the constitution in nothing but a piece of paper. Rewriting a constitution to suit your needs, is what this president is about. He is not a great American. Nor will he ever be. He does not have soul for that.
Actually, Dwight, there are facts and then there is disinformation.
Americans live by the Constitution. Just as Christians live by the New Testament. Clowns who call themselves american and yet ignore the Constitution are liars, hypocrites and traitors. Clowns who call themselves Christians and kill babies and promote homosexual sin are liars, hypocrites and traitors to Jesus Christ.
It is plain that Obama is in love with evil. He sponsors every evil cause he can find. He will not protect our borders, he will not engage our enemies, he weakens our national defenses, and had has left no stone unturned in his mad rush to communize our economy and empower our islamic enemies.
Prediction: Obama will attempt to surrender US sovereignty to a Global Government and he will one day declare that our current fiat currency no longer has any value. That will probably motivate you and your kind to vote him in again.
Americans live by the Constitution. Just as Christians live by the New Testament. Clowns who call themselves american and yet ignore the Constitution are liars, hypocrites and traitors. Clowns who call themselves Christians and kill babies and promote homosexual sin are liars, hypocrites and traitors to Jesus Christ.
OK, now back to the real world. How long would our list be of every President who “tested” (read “potentially violated’) the limits of his Constitutional powers? It would clearly not be as long as the list of Christians who have NOT lived up to Jesus’s teachings, but both examples clearly demonstrate, that despite the claims for the absolute authority of the Constitution and the New Testament, we actually live in a gray world of choices, flawed human beings pushing the limits, checks and balances etc. Was it Constitutional for Jefferson to make the Louisiana Purchase? No, not with a strict construction of Presidential powers. Was it the right thing to do? Well, it doubled our size, led to the Civil War and made us what we are….or were. Then there is Andrew Jackson and the Indians. Does the Constitution and the general law of contracts apply to the Cherokee? Nah, not if we manifestly want, possibly need their land. This history does not make us bad, just real. Get real.
Dwight,
The question, or even the point is not how long the list, or how many are there but to get the right one. This president was WRONG one from the time he was a candidate. Collective blindness, unwillingness to read and in-ability to understand the material is the cause of this disaster( the presidency and ALL of it that followed). Media and Liberal democrats went completely berserk to white wash this incompetent candidate(if you still think he is American). This man is a liar, His team is a collection of liars/criminals, and ideological demagoguery is absolutely nauseating. He is not an American.
What a pile of relativist GARBAGE, Dwight.
C’mon guys; try to address things in historical context, not just sputter. Can absolutists do context?
I think that we have not only the right but the duty, and maybe even the competence, to decide whether President Obama is “American enough” — to be the president. Ditto whether he is adequately competent, willing to enforce the laws as written instead of ignoring them to further his ideological agenda, and even whether we like the direction he apparently insists upon taking the country; maybe we can even figure out whether he is, indeed “the worst president ever.” The presidency is a big job and, as lots have learned, it does not come with training wheels.
We don’t need a president who is minimally “American,” minimally competent, minimally interested in enforcing and abiding by the laws. Nor do we need one who is excessively prone to apologize for all of our alleged mistakes, while blaming everything bad on others. That may be “good enough” to be a community organizer or even an instructor in constitutional law. For the presidency, we need and should insist on something far better.
We will have an opportunity in November to make and act upon these assessments, and we may have an opportunity in 2010 to vote for or against him, assuming that he runs.
This just in: Fox News estimated the crowd size at Glenn Beck’s Restoring Honor rally at 700 . . . no, 900,000!
What’s that? It hasn’t happened yet? Then what was Fox saying . . . oh, never mind.
LOL. What great satire.
This piece mistakes ought for is. Americans ought to tolerate other points of view, accept differences yada yada yada. What actually is true is that a large majority of Americans are committed to the same set of values and beliefs- Christianity, self-sufficiency, hard work, fair dealing, honesty and freedom via small government. If you want to lead those hundreds of millions of people, it really really helps if you believe in the same things. It has nothing to do with your own dreams for your own life- that isn’t what makes an American American. Shared beliefs are what make Americans American, and that is why those who don’t believe, like people who don’t like hard work and honesty, pay a high price for their un-American beliefs.
Mike Huckabee’s input hits the nail on the head….
No first principles and no traditional understanding of American exceptionalism, says Mike Huckabee:
“He grew up more as a globalist than an American,” Huckabee said. “To deny American exceptionalism is in essence to deny the heart and soul of this nation.”
I think Huckabee understands the core of the issue when he says of Pres. Obama “He grew up more as a globalist than an American,” To deny American exceptionalism is in essence to deny the heart and soul of this nation.”
Obama is circomventing, or ignoring, our laws. That is enough to define him as not being American.
You are correct. It doesn’t make him less of an American. He simply is a member of the ranks of bad ones.
He is an enemy of freedom. He is a tool of Marxism. He is my enemy and the enemy of all who love freedom.
In a joint news conference in Turkey, Obama told the Islamist Turkish Premier that “the U.S. does not consider itself a Christian Nation” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D0A0DVUCaI) .
Said Obama in a 2007 New York Times interview (http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html? ), the Muslim “Call to Prayer” “is one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset,” and Obama then proceeded to chant the opening lines of the “Call” in perfect Arabic for New York Times reporter Nicholas D. Kristof. And what do those opening lines, which are the “Adhan,” the Muslim confession of faith–that renders anyone who says it—willingly or unwillingly—a Muslim in the eyes of the Muslim world—say?
“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet… ”
Can anyone argue that Obama was not sending a message here?
Obama has also said that he agrees with the Rev. Jeremiah “God Damn America” Wright’s diagnosis of America, and that “White greed rules a world in need.”
There are 57 nations in the Organization of the Muslim Conference, but only 50 states in the U.S., yet Obama once talked about how his campaigning had taken him “to all 57 states in the U.S.”
U.S. Presidents do not bow to foreign leaders, yet Obama bent himself in half as he bowed and scraped to the King of Saudi Arabia.
Obama as we have seen, too, considers the Constitution to be “only a charter of negative liberties,” for it only outlines what the Government “cannot do to you,” but doesn’t specify what the Government “can do for you.”
The unemployment rate is nominally 9.7% but is actually more like 17+%, a new report says that 1 of every 10 mortgages in the U.S. is in arrears, sales of new homes and existing home have dropped to 40 year lows, and the new monthly GDP figure is predicted to be less than 1% (last quarter’s GDP figure was just revised downward to 1.7%), 40 million people are now on food stamps, and last month—7 years ahead of schedule—Social Security started to pay out more than it took in, and Obama has tripled the deficit, and we now have a virtually unpayable $13 trillion dollar debt.
Yet, President Obama incessantly and frequently golfs (one count is 40 outings so far), hosts glittering White House parties where he and his guests enjoy the best of food and drink—including $125 per oz. “Wagyu beef” steaks flown in from Australia–and he and Michelle “vacation and relax,” and Michelle takes a reported “40 of her closest friends” and 75 Secret Service agents on a $750,000 vacation to a fabulous luxury hotel in Marbella, Spain, to dine with the King and Queen. This is not love of America and care about her people, or leadership, this is not “governance,” it is “rule,” it is “let them eat cake” and Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette.
Our troops are coming home from war in Afghanistan and Iraq—exhausted, many of them, from multiple, dangerous deployments, and where is President Obama? He is vacationing, or at a glittering White House dinner or entertainment there (over 200 so far), or at the theater–an estimated $250,000 for Obama and Michelle’s recent little NY theater “date” alone–or out on one of his golfing excursions around the country. And who graciously and fondly, humbly and proudly greets them? Well, recently, along with their families, it has been ex-President Bush and his wife Laura, a class act (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNt4J8l5ft4_ .
Obama, too, is the only President I know of who has conspicuously refused to put his hand over his heart when the national anthem has played (http://crushliberalism.com/2007/10/22/osamabama-thinks-national-anthem-is-sooooooooooo-pass/).
We expect our Presidents, I believe, to act within a certain band of “Americanness, of normality,” to hold certain essential principles, to have a fundamental and broad and deep rooted knowledge about America and her peoples, and to love and cherish America and her people. It was to screen out “foreigners,” and to assure that any candidate for President was an American who had those necessary qualifications–and whose only and primary allegiance would be to America and to our values, to our Republican form of government, to our democracy, and to our traditions–that the Founders included the “natural born citizen” requirement in the Constitution; a protective measure to prevent just such a “foreigner” as Obama from attaining the Presidency.
Obama is that “foreigner” and he has, with the active connivance of our political class and the MSM, bypassed that filter, with the results you are increasingly seeing every day.
A correction to my post above. Our 2nd quarter GDP was revised downward to 1.6% not to 1.7% as I stated above.
Soooo, we should stop opposing Obama because his “vision” of America is as valid as ours? Are you going to head over to KOS and DU and tell them they should stop opposing us because our vision is as valid as their’s? No? Well, I’m sitting on the part of my anatomy you can kiss, Mr Moran.
I’m always amused when the Sorosian elitist trolls show up to publicly wallow in their unearned sense of superiority. I believe, it’s actually Betty (picking her) Nose and putting it on your plate. Cos, like, you deserve it, clinger!
How is that any different than conservatives showing up to wallow in their unearned sense of superiority? (I’d add a booger joke, but I just can’t bring myself to do it.)
Obama is just a Progressive – a species that has infested Washington since the 19th century. His basic tenets are that a) the Founders got it wrong and the Constitution still needs work, b) “negative rights” only protect rich people, and c) the government must supply “positive rights” in order for poor people to exercise the freedom provided by “negative rights.”
1) In truth, it comes down to a difference in vision and dreams. Does anyone have the right to dismiss someone else’s vision of what America should be? Or denigrate their dreams of what America can become? Certainly criticism of that vision and of those dreams is perfectly rational and reasonable. Ideally, such criticism should be tolerated by both sides in our republic.
Rick, I like you. Unlike my friends here in the comments, I understand the place from which your basic instincts emanate. You try to sit in the centerfield bleachers and watch the action unfold on each side, making your best effort to see what is there to be seen, without pre-filtering or pre-fabricating a prism through which you might otherwise be forced to view it all.
But, I am going to part ways with you in some respects here. First, your seminal notion in the thesis, is that your audience UNFAIRLY criticizes the foundational attitude toward America of this administration. Secondly, you intimate that “both” sides are EQUALLY to blame. Third, you conflate the desire for justice and equality as a conditio sine qua non of the “other” side’s primal disaffection for “conservatives”. Lastly, you hinge your conclusions on the rather thin gruel of what might be “American enough”. Without defining what being American at all might be.
I like you, Rick. I also like your basic instincts. But you are wrong today. Completely wrong. Take this from a friend, who is about to disagree with you in the very manner you suggest should be done. With every fibre of my being.
Let’s take paragraph 1 above. Does anyone have the right to dismiss someone else’s vision of what America should be? Damn skippy they do. In fact, not only do the citizens of this land have the right, if that vision is antithetical to goodness, righteousness, fairness, and decency…they have an OBLIGATION to do so.
If that vision is one that tears down the fabric of this society and by intent or inadvertance seeks to destroy us from within, we have a fiduciary duty to each other to stand shoulder to shoulder and dismiss the hell out of it.
When one man or one party decrees that THEY AND THEY ALONE can “legislate” themselves and their vision into our nation, against our will and in abrogation of our rules by which we have agreed to self-govern this land of ours, that is a coup that MUST be put down.
To suggest that ALL notions of how we should proceed as a nation are on equal footing, is a moral relativism that does not and cannot fly. The instinct to put in place Van Jones and Charles Freeman and Dawn Johnson didn’t stem from a place where we should be comfortable in a Marques of Queensbury debate on the equality of all notions and ideas.
Some ideas are so destructive to our common good, they MUST be dismissed out of hand. Radical extremism has planted this spider bot into the national consciousness that plays on the instincts for fairness to all in those of us who reside naturally in centerfield. But it’s a trap for the unwary. It’s an infection that needs to be removed.
Not all notions of how we should self-govern are based upon good intent. This is exacerbated by a mass communications infiltration of liars, hypocrites and con men. When we cannot trust our national media empire to tell the truth, when they conspire to hide facts, photoshop pictures, bury stories, refuse to investigate…in order to advance a soft coup against the will of the people, and implant those who will promulgate those ideals…this isn’t fair debate. This isn’t winning over hearts and minds. It is cheating the people out of coming to a fair conclusion on issues integral to self-governing this land of ours.
The co-conspirators in such a ploy are NOT AMERICAN ENOUGH. In fact, they are not American at all. They are anti-American. In every aspect of their criminal enterprise.
2) But despite the president’s radical vision, his dreams of what America can become probably aren’t much different than yours or mine. Who wouldn’t want a more just society, a more tolerant society, a society more equal in opportunity? It is not the destination that divides us but rather the road that must be followed to get there that separates us.
Rick, tell me…what level of tolerance is shown when those who want small government are called a sexual slur? Where is the justice in cramming through legislation against the will of the people, by administrative trickery and deceit? Where is the equality in opportunity likely to come from when you are called a bitter clinger, a homegrown terrorist, a racist or a xenophobe?
The President needs to keep his middle finger down during debates and his instinct to call the police stupid in check. He needs to see his countrymen as not “mean” or “bitter” or bigoted “against people who don’t look like them”.
He needs to be the President of ALL the people, not just some of them.
Nancy Pelosi doesn’t seem poised to look for “equality” and “justice” and “tolerance”. What makes this administration, this President, this Congress different is that they are openly hostile to the people of this land of ours. You are addressing the citizens and asking them to react to that in an open and accepting manner. One major difference, the duty owed by those officials to the people is mandated, not voluntary.
3) In this respect, President Obama is “American enough.” He may lack the emotional touchstones that define heartfelt patriotism, and deny the ultimate specialness of America that gives us all pride and a purpose to achieve and excel. But that doesn’t make him any less an American than anyone else.
President Obama’s worldview and his view of America, come wafting out of his pores each time he apologizes for our existence. Each time he advances a nomination of a person who holds a view of America as evil and craven. This is like getting engaged to a person and then attempting to change everything they do, all that they wear and everything they stand for and against. Then saying you love the person, just as they are. No, you don’t. You may be attracted to the physical shell, the trappings of wealth and attractiveness, but you hate what is inside.
The notion that America needs to be “changed” at its core, means you don’t like America as she is, you only like her as an ATM or for her resources. Sorry, Rick. If someone likes me just because I’m good looking and make a nice living…but can’t stand anything else about me…I’m with the wrong person. And they are not CFBleachers’ ENOUGH.
4) And neither you nor I have the competence to make that judgment in the first place. If America is more a state of mind than a country, then certainly it has room for different visions of what it is capable of achieving for its citizens. That doesn’t mean that implementing his vision shouldn’t be opposed with every ounce of energy and every fiber of our being. But we can do it without branding the president as “not American enough.”
America is neither a state of mind, nor just a country, Rick. It is a commonality among countrymen to be loved and defended against all who mean to harm her. It is the coming together of people who protect her borders from wrongful invasion and advance her beauty and exceptionalism with pride and devotion.
If it is less, then we are less. If she is just here to be slandered and self-loathed, then what are we as a people? Self-reflection is good and healthy. Self-loathing and constant berating is not. The tear down the system types, the very types that the President has surrounded himself the whole of his life…are not “American enough” to join you in the tolerance, justice, fairness game you propose.
And, yes..I have the competence to see and acknowledge their anarchist tendencies. The first order of business, Rick…is to get the “other” side to start playing by the same set of rules you advance for “conservatives”. Tell the truth and don’t conspire to steal it from the people. Stop hurling epithets and slanders at anyone who doesn’t share your extreme radical views. And stop apologizing for who and what America is and stands for and against. They don’t have the right…or the competence to do so. In fact, it isn’t necessary at all. That’s…how they become American “enough”. Hell, for most of them…that’s how they become American for the first time in their miserable lives.
“Does anyone have the right to dismiss someone else’s vision of what America should be? Damn skippy they do. In fact, not only do the citizens of this land have the right, if that vision is antithetical to goodness, righteousness, fairness, and decency…they have an OBLIGATION to do so.”
That’s why we’re so vocal about our rejection of conservatives’ behavior. But you don’t like it when we exercise those rights in our “miserable lives.” It’s a lot like how you view religious freedom . . . “You can practice your faith all you like, as long as you do it where we say you can do it.” OK, cool. You can shoot your guns all you like, as long as you go to Texas to do it.
“Tell the truth and don’t conspire to steal it from the people. Stop hurling epithets and slanders at anyone who doesn’t share your extreme radical views.”
You’re right, conservative politicians/administrations/media outlets operate by that standard. I just can’t think of any. Maybe you can help me out by naming a few.
Deign, won’t you.
Are you assigned by someone to follow me around, Betty?
First, I’m not a “conservative”. So, you need to spew your venom elsewhere. Anyone who is familiar with the things I have written here, know that I am indeed anti-leftist…not anti-liberal.
Second, if you read or listen to Krauthammer, Prager, Thomas Sowell, Jonah Goldberg, Ron Radosh, Roger Simon and Victor Davis Hanson…and you come away with a sense that they are not thoughtful, respectful and fair…you have no objectivity and your dogma won’t hunt.
Third, not sure what your “religious freedom” spew is about, anyone coming in peace to live with us as countrymen can practice their religion in any state in the Union. If you build a shrine to mass murder of our countrymen by your religious fanatics and you want to build it on the ashes of those murdered, breaking ground on the date of that murder, you might find some people here don’t think that’s such a swell idea.
Do you live here, Betty? Or do you just troll sites from afar, hoping find a place to inject your particularly noxious brand of venom?
“Anyone who is familiar with the things I have written here . . .”
I’m familiar. You should think more and write less. There is power in brevity.
“Second, if you read or listen to Krauthammer, Prager, Thomas Sowell, Jonah Goldberg, Ron Radosh, Roger Simon and Victor Davis Hanson…”
I have and do. The fact that you would evoke Goldberg as thoughtful, respectful and fair is proof enough that you don’t recognize those attributes in their true form.
” . . . anyone coming in peace to live with us as countrymen can practice their religion in any state in the Union.”
Just not “there” . . . or Temecula, California, or Murpheysboro, Tennessee, or Texas. You either believe in freedom of religion or you don’t. It’s not the type of negotiable principle that anti-leftists are so fond of.
“If you build a shrine to mass murder of our countrymen by your religious fanatics . . . ”
Is that what’s on the building permit? Oh, that’s your opinion of the Park 52 project? OK, I consider the Catholic church down the street to be a an edifice of perversion built to enable the homosexual abuse of young boys by repressed religious freaks. I guess that means I can demand they tear it down. (That’s OK, right, for me to imbue all Catholic priests with the most despicable behavior of a few. That’s cool, right?)
Frankly, I find the self righteous victimhood of right wing extremists to be the truly noxious venom.
See you at the Restoring Honor rally. Glenn says there will be miracles taking place. I wouldn’t want to miss that.
Miracles? Are you hoping for a brain?
Excellent rebuttal, cf.
So many good posts reprimanding Rick Moran’s despicable essay. The only thing left is to call for his ban from PJM and American Thinker.
Let him take his PC nonsense over to the Huffington Post and see if they want to publish it.
What true American of any color or religion would sit in the congregation of a man who shouts , ” G-d damn America! ” without uttering a word of condemnation? Without even getting up and walking out?
Rather than condemning he brings his own children to be indoctrinated and puts his money in when the collection plate is passed.
Who damns what they love?
Heya Menachem
Apropos of nothing at all, just wanted to let you know that I’d be willing to abide a mosque/community center/blasting cap exchange built at/on/nowhere near Ground Zero if our Muslim friends would meet us halfway and tolerate Israel building the 3rd Temple on the Temple Mount.
…you think they’d accept the deal?
I think it’s a fair enough trade.
What sort of nonsense is PJM publishing these days? Obama does not “have a different vision for America” — he’s anti-American. He does not have “a different vision for America’s freedom” — he’s a Marxist. He’s absolutely the worst man who ever occupied the Oval Office: an anti-American, Marxist, racist egomaniac. (Try to call it “reverse racism if you like, but racism is racism, period.)
Mr. Moran says we are not competent to judge Obama. Ergo, we are not competent to vote for or against him, or anyone else. None of us should ever go to the polls again. Our political system is at an end. That is the necessary consequence of a false assumption. Jn.7.24 says that we are to “judge with right judgment”. God judges us by what we do, 2Cor.5.10, and His judgment is perfect, Mt.5.48. So we must judge others by what they do.
Obama kills babies and promotes homosexual perversion. He inflates the economy and thus steals the savings of retired persons, all the while hypocritically claiming to be a Christian- to american audiences; and to be a Moslem to islamic audiences.He weakens our national defenses, will not secure our borders, and seeks to surrender our sovereignty in every possible manner.
He is a longtime pal of Ayers and Wright, two prominent america-haters and contributed regularly to Wright for over twenty years. Obama is a communist-moslem who hates America and is openly out to betray and destroy us. He has a lot of help from not only the Pelosi-Reid-Clinton-Frank-Rangel crowd, but also from his “brothers” in the Dubya, GHW, Cheyney, McCain, Snow bunch.
These are all people who want a Global Government; totalitarian, all-controlling, with themselves at the head of it. Their religious convictions are pretended; eg; as Obama dumped Wright when Wright’s treason was made public.
They are pathological liars; masters of deception. Why are some fond of them?
“Just, tolerant, equal.”
You use these words to talk about totalitarians.
You have no idea about what you are talking about.
The commies, the filo-jihadists, the elitists cover with their ideologies the sad reality of their nihlist religion, in which there is NO space for any value.
Do you think that Nancy Pelosi is kidding when she asks for the prosecution of dissent ?
Do you think that the administration that does not prosecute the black panther thugs is pursuing equality, tolerance, justice ?
I HAVE ENOUGH OF THIS FABLE THAT THE SO CALLED PROGRESSIVES WOULD HAVE “GOOD INTENTIONS”.
THE WORLD HAS SUFFERED ONE HUNDRED YEARS OF CIVIL WARS, WARS, HORRORS, TORTURES, DEPORTATIONS, GULAGS, RIOTS, VIOLENCE BECAUSE OF THE COMMIES, THE ELITISTS, THE TOTALITARIANS.
THEY ARE NOT IN GOOD FAITH, THEY ARE EVIL.
I have enough of this brainwashing.
They don’t like the Constitution, they can go to Cuba, to North Korea, to China, to hell.
Elections will tell them exactly where to go.
Americans ? Totalitarians are not “American” by definition.
Although I feel for the attitudes of the respondents, I would defend the temperate quality of the misnamed right winged nut’s essay in this sense:
From a tactical point of view, no matter how upset we are about Obama’s failure to appreciate America, it will better convince the unconvinced (voter) to argue factual matters of incompetence, naiveté, and cronyism than the emotional–or ideologically charged “anti American” “unpatriotic” or even secret Marxist Muslim. These are susceptible to negative characterization. Criticizing performance is more objective and brings less suspicion on the critic than questioning motivation. If, in order to keep the candid ear of the voter we would persuade, it is required for us to say ” my friend (wink) Obama loves America (cough) like we all do” in order to continue “but he has no ($#@) idea what he’s doing or what he should do.” Well I think we might better wink, cough and attest away.
Obama’s overreach has set the table for a conservative return to power; but will conservatives (again) overreach in turn? A new congress will have a mandate to cut spending and free business from regulation. Will they also not waste the opportunity to attempt minority supported social conservative legislation? I think Mr. Moran is looking down the road a bit farther than his critics.
Constitution is a charter of negative liberties, because positive ones are incompatible with individual freedom. Government has nothing of it’s own. If it’s charged with providing something for you, it must take that something by force from someone else. Thus the more positive rights it promises, the more tyrannical it must become to deliver on this promise.
Old Soviet Union had a constitutional right to work. There weren’t enough dream jobs around, but since they couldn’t have you unemployed, you had to be coerced into accepting whatever job they give you (truancy laws).
So it is with any limited resource if you are “entitled” to it.
This is essentially what I hear from progressives: In the past people were racist ignorant bigots. When in power they acted with malice, and so there was a need to limit government powers. Now times have changed. We have “progressed” into 21st century. Unlike all the humans before us, we are caring enlightened individuals. We want to help others, not abuse them. Constitution must change with the times. These annoying restrictions are no longer necessary, rather they are a hindrance to our ability to help you.
Basically they have rebranded tyranny as “progress” on the grounds that tyrants “care” now.
But does anyone doubt that when charged with redistribution, these “caring” people will “redistribute”
to themselves first? Would they forego a tax hike to fund their pay raises, so that your family
can have a bit more in the tough economic times? Or maybe let you keep a bit more of your tax money
if you lost a job? Some caring.
Rick Moran fails to distinguish between America as a country in which any idea can be freely expressed, and America as an Idea. Sure, American collectivists of all sorts can express their ideas in America. But America is more than a country, and the Idea of America is the idea of individual freedom. When that meaning of “America” is the subject of discussion, those who speak or act against individual liberty – of which freedom of speech is a vital ingredient – are being un-American.
“And neither you nor I have the competence to make that judgment in the first place.”
Frankly, I can’t believe I read that sentence.
It is tantamount to saying the ballot box that put him where he is is not a legitimate means with which to remove him. I expect a great many leftists feel that way.
“Having a different vision of what America should be doesn’t make President Obama less of an American than anyone else.”
Criticizing America, as President, while in a foreign country and speaking to a foreign audience, is a problem, however.
Many good comments here, particularly cfbleachers @ 56.
I would add that Moran’s appeal really doesn’t rise above Rodney King’s plaintive “Why can’t we all just get along?”
Moran would make sense if Obama were this weird neighbor down the street, a half-black/half-white, half-American/half-Kenyan, half-Muslim/half-Christian academic always lecturing everyone about everything, bad-rapping America, advocating that NASA’s primary objective should be Muslim outreach, and advertising himself as a “citizen of the world,” while in response the local folks were grumbling that they weren’t sure how American he was. As long as that Obama weren’t building bombs in the basement like his childhood friend, Billy Ayers, Rick Moran’s lecture on accepting Prof. Obama would have its place.
However, Obama is not our weird neighbor down the street whom it behooves us to accept in the name of American tolerance. Obama is President of the United States. He is above all else the defender of our Constitution, our commander-in-chief, and our advocate in the world. It is his job to ensure that his American-ness is unquestionable, not our job to accept him as American no matter what he says or does because deep down his intentions are (we hope) similar to ours.
Interesting apologist article. Im sorry that you are so torn and poorly informed that you would write a piece like this. Anyway, the problem which Mr. Obama has is so profound that you arent willing or able to see or acknowledge it. His occupancy of the White House is a violation of the Constitution Art II. There is no ifs ands or buts. He knows it as well. An “American” would not knowingly violate the Consitution! He admits to being a “dual citizen” and knows that he is not “natural born” as he was in on the investigation of McCains eligibility in Mar-Apr 08 which resulted in SR 511 which defines “natural born citizen” as “born to American citizens”.
What just about everyone above misses is feeling estranged from America is a very American tradition. Many examples to lengthy to list here, but one every junior high kid should know is Thoreau. It’s varied too and includes Evangelicals and Catholics, not just the free thinkers.
If progressives had a better sense of American History instead of the phoney class struggles reduced to good-guys vs bad-guys, they’d have a much better go of it this November and honestly proclaim their part of American heritage.
Progressives deal with abstract principles though, and have a tough time with traditions, and when reality comes crashing down on the abstractions, people steeped with a sense of tradition have a better time enduring the times.
Instead Progs ought to put on those Tri Cornered Hats and leggings along with the Tea Parties and drink deep from American History to reconnect and reorient themselves.
I doubt they will or can, but Rick is certainly right they can lay claim to tradition as American and as long as any Tea Partiers.
Obama is as American as the Rev. Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. Not to mention John Kerry and Jane Fonda.
“Does anyone have the right to dismiss someone else’s vision of what America should be?”
Yes, Rick, that’s called “judgment”. Such judgment may be good, may be bad, but do you really want a world without judgment, Rick?
i hate starting my rant on personal attacks;but mr. moran,sounds more like a moron’;he is obviously seeking the liberal talking points,which states their is no right,or wrong,their is no good or evil;gray area concerning humanity;except of course if you dis-agree;then it’s you,or them that is evil,and should not have the right to exist,in their perverted,lawless world view,utopia;just wait until they have their world view realized,and those bible believing christians,are no longer around to crucify anymore;whose going to guarantee them,that their newest best friends;”sharia compliant islamist”you know the one’s who are demanding to build a shrine to the 9/11 hijackers,on top of the burial site,of innocent americans,in n.y.c.and their ideaological icon hero’s fidel castro,hugo chavez,vladimir putin,mao se tung etc;which are every progressive marxist liberals,dream team,of their ideal utopian paradise with of course their beliefs having exalted dominion,over every other belief,and people;to understand liberals is to understand all self-serving,lawless,pathological liars,and socio-paths;liberals are so insecure with themselves,and have vile hatred,and contempt against anyone that is more, has more, or does more, than them; they use the strong arm of satan’s government,to force people against their will,and their god given rights to like who they are, to agree, with every thing they believe,and do;to submit to their will,bow to their alter,and surrender everything they want to them,or to be redistributed to others likewise to them;progessives,can never be satisfied,mostly because the only thing that makes them happy,is to suffer,obstruct,deny,and destroy all that,is seen honorable,truthful,self-sacrificial,and holy in the eyes of god;progressives demand, as their god;”lucifer;to enact lucifer,s law;”to exalt their will above god,and his laws;”the ten commandmends”proof;from abortion,illegal immigration,gay marraige,denying parental rights,stopping oil exploration,all self reliant,personal responsibility,and independence,assimilaton policies,proclaimations and laws,have been stripped from the constitution bill of rights,and the declaration,for independence;and redistributed,to a constituency,of self-serving,lawless,deadbeats,misfits,and predatorial,deciples,of lucifer;oh’if anyone is confused as to how progressives would be dumb enough to align themselves with those most of us call evil;one; remember liberals believe that its ok;to force people to agree with them so,in their ignorance they believe if they except pedophiles, terrorist,rapist,murderers,for who they are; find justification for what they do,make victims out of them as they do themselves;they have as well exonerated,any wrong,or evil they have committed;and progressives have always believed their ways,are better,speedier,and more effective than god’s way;finally;what to watch for in your leaders;if they claim they will be able to cross the aisle,and bring back civility to government;thats code word for,enough power,celebrity,prestege,money,and perks,for themselves,they would sell,their souls,and america’s dream,down the drain;or say we need a bigger party,and not a purer party;that means they; like their progressive friends want status quo corruption,to continue;they want to cater to,deadbeats misfits,lawbreakers,and society predators;to try,and outbid,the progressives for votes,and power,for themselves;caring nothing for truth,justce,honor,ethics,integrity,human life,liberty,nor happiness;all about themselves,and their special interest that bought their souls;same philosophy,as their progressive colleagues,just different,winners,and losers,outcomes,and visionary utopian paradise,that only includes them,and those who believe like them;like progressives their only loyalty,is to their own agenda’s and power.both seek to keep the god of the holy bible,his laws;”the ten commandments,out of sight,and out of mind,or at least on the back burner;as god just gets in the way of their agendas,and the”ten commandments”shines a bright light on their true character,and they can’t allow that to happen;they will say what they feel they have to say to gain,or remain in power;but if they are defeated they immediately jump to the other side;examples;benedict arlin specter,and ;my soul’s for sell christ,of florida.the bible said of them their is no light in them;and know them by their fruits;anyone who wants you to put your creator on the back burner,is telling you to put your life,loved ones,liberties,opportunities,property,and happiness,on the back burner while they try to play god themselves;god endowed all these things for each of us to decide our own destiny;to give them away for empty promises,to a people,or power that can’t even govern their own lives,i believe,is either selfishness,ignorance,foolish pride, insanity insecurity, or desperation,;one final note; sharia law,and political correctness,are identical in this aspect;do what you are told;or you don’t have the right to exist;the good news is;in the end they lose;and front burner bible believing conservative christians,win;its time to choose america.”pick-a-team”luke warmers,or moderates;choose,or god will spit you out,onto lucifer’s side.and fate.you’re all in, or you’re all out;jimmy joe;”the liarfryer”
Paragraphs are a beautiful thing. Try them some time, and I guarantee that more people will read your rant.
What a BS article.
We have a guy who doesn’t recognize our laws or traditions, a guy who runs roughshod over anyone who disagrees with him, a guy who is trashing an economic system based on freedom for one based on socialism, a guy who goes out of his way to create division in the country, and a guy who doesn’t have a single good word to say for our country.
And out of that the conclustion is he just has a different vision? Huh??
Moran must be going senile.
Oh Rick to you I grant the sympathy that the weak do so deserve . . . Yet I warn you . . . Do not fall to the dark power . .
Heed thee these words of Gandalf the White . . .
“The wise speak only of what they know, Gríma son of Gálmód. A witless worm have you become. Therefore be silent, and keep your forked tongue behind your teeth. I have not passed through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man till the lightning falls.”
Ah, but to see the self destruction of a man . . . the pen is again more powerful than the sword.
Mr Moran has set up a fly trap for the right wing morons. It is amazing how willing these nuts are to expose their ignorance for all to see. Keep it up!
What an amazingly fabulous comment. I haven’t read or heard of anything this profound since “OBAMA WILL PAY MY MORTGAGE AND GAS BILLS!”
Thanks – I was looking for an example of a non sequitur to use when tutoring some kids
Kos or CAP chose you well. You seem to be studied in Jefferson. Good for you-you have a job. As long as Soros continues to pay you, you are happier than a hog in sh!t. I bet you feel real good about yourself using a great American as the point of reference from which you then denigrate America; to take what was done in our past to show everyone that America is not really that good or exceptional at all. In fact we are evil. Source of pride for you, eh? BMOC I bet.
Your ability to conflate what America did to become the America it is today as something that is bad or in contradiction to the Constitution reflects the debate tactic of someone desparately trying to score points. Next I suppose you will say dropping the A-bombs on Japan shows we are even more evil than Islamic jihadists.
Why I bet you think living in Iran would be preferable to living here. With all the good things they have done for the world. Oh, and living under sharia law and “voluntarily” becoming a Muslim is just oh so wonderful compared to living in a nation, which you despise, that allows you to choose freedom of religion or the freedom to practice religion.
You know what skippy. If you feel so good about yourself and what you believe about America, drive over to Walter Reed hospital or any VAMC and tell those brave warriors what you think of America.
Blotto wrote to an un-named person (who had talked about Jefferson, so it sounds like me):
“I bet you feel real good about yourself using a great American as the point of reference from which you then denigrate America; to take what was done in our past to show everyone that America is not really that good or exceptional at all. In fact we are evil.”
Grow up. Did I use the word evil? The fact that we have done what we have done is (more or less) public record. If you can’t take the facts, then go back to your book of Founding Fairy Tales. Can you get it through your thick skull-thin skin that we can be the greatest country AND have done some sketchy things, or more relevant here, had “great” Presidents” who did NOT strictly abide by the Constitution? (which was the point).
I have no problem with our having dropped the A-bomb on Japan, nor do I wish to live in Iran, OR want to defend the mullahs. It is amazing the crap that you can throw out there, eh? But since you have no answer about Jefferson and Jackson, and probably don’t know squat about either man beyond your Founder’s Fairy Tales, by all means, mutter about who pays me for my brilliant commentary.
No one would pay anything for yours, that’s for sure.
I think Sir Walter Scott sums up Obama perfectly:
Breathes There The Man
By Sir Walter Scott
Breathes there the man with soul so dead
Who never to himself hath said,
This is my own, my native land!
Whose heart hath ne’er within him burned,
As home his footsteps he hath turned
From wandering on a foreign strand?
If such there breathe, go, mark him well;
For him no minstrel raptures swell;
High though his titles, proud his name,
Boundless his wealth as wish can claim,
Despite those titles, power, and pelf,
The wretch, concentred all in self,
Living, shall forfeit fair renown,
And, doubly dying, shall go down
To the vile dust from whence he sprung,
Unwept, unhonored, and unsung.
Rick,
It’s less about Obama’s vision and more about his intention to transform America into something which doesn’t reflect, personal freedom, property rights, ten amendment rights and the rest of the United States Constitution. Obama’s belief system prevents him from fulfiling the duties of the President vis-a-vie his oath of office. In effect, Obama is a mole who become President. His oath of office was a lie. He is a lie. By definition, he has no vision for America as the President because he doesn’t believe in the ideals on which this nation is founded. He lacks a reasonable ability to execute the office of President of the United States.
A desire and intent to turn the United States into a political construct that does not allow for the individual freedom envisioned by the founders.
Obama is like someone elected Pope who doesn’t believe in the teachings of Catholicism.
Consequently the question becomes how to unseat Obama.
Do we dare wait for 2012 to fix this broken administration. How does forty-five days sound?
The question for me is not what’s going to happen if we let the Presidential hand play out. The question for me is what action to take to change the course of human events and preserve freedom and the Constitution and this sovereign nation.
Frightened, confused and flustered, we cannot stand still and wait to be destroyed. We need to know what to do now. The answer I can no longer fail to address.
My heart asks the bravest of American spirits to provide to all appropriate government authorities who share this earth’s oxygen a courage and commitment of the highest order to do not only what is right, but what is required to preserve this nation.
Twenty-fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution
United States of America
The Twenty-fifth Amendment (Amendment XXV) to the United States Constitution deals with succession to the Presidency and establishes procedures both for filling a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, as well as responding to Presidential disabilities. It supersedes the ambiguous wording of Article II, Section 1, Clause 6 of the Constitution, which does not expressly state whether the Vice President becomes the President, as opposed to an Acting President, if the President dies, resigns, is removed from office or is otherwise unable to discharge the powers of the presidency.[1] The Twenty-fifth Amendment was ratified in 1967.
“Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.
Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.
Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.”
The courage and bravery demonstrated on the battlefields of war is no less than that which men and woman of well intention must find within themselves to remove the man, Barack Obama, from office because he is not mentally or emotionally or morally fit to continue as President of the United States. On the basis of most every behavior since he was given the oath of office, he has, by the reasonable man test, committed a series and pattern of deeds designed to destroy the fabric of this nation. He has undermined the ideals on which the United States of America was founded. He has sought to drastically weaken our military. Drastically weaken our system of free enterprise. Our entire economy. He has sought to replace and transform it from a system of freedom and liberty; economically, socially, spiritually, morally, legally and militarily into one that is wed to the ideals of socialism, marxism, communism and totalitarianism. He has demonstrated a prima facie treasonous intention to subvert the system of government that has guided this nation for more than two centuries. He seeks to destroy that which the governed hold dear, and undeniably unchangeable.
A reasonable reading of the result of allowing Barack Obama to remain in the office of President of the United States is national catastrophe, including the likelihood of any one or all, but not limited to: national bankruptcy, economic insolvency, civil riot, terrorist attack using weapons of mass destruction, starvation, and or biological attack resulting in the death of United States Citizens in the tens of millions or more; arising from a reckless and or intentional dereliction of duty.
Fully do I realize that I am asking the members of the United States government which the 25th Amendment speaks to perform an enormous task. However, with their position goes enormous duty and steely responsibility. The enormous trust that the American people place into each and every member of government demands that you take unthinkable action when the unthinkable is the correct action to take.
As a citizen of the United States from which the power of government is derived, I give you, the appropriate governmental bodies, forty five days to respond.
Rachael:
I see you are off your meds again. Better not let any of your clients see these post; they might think you are nuts!
Comments by Hal Lindsey
Two recent polls have discovered that as many as one-quarter of all Americans believe that President Obama is actually a Muslim. This is despite the fact that during his campaign he put enormous effort into convincing the voters that he was a Christian.
I remember thinking at the time, “Why is no one on the Left howling about Senator Obama’s claims of faith in God and His Son Jesus Christ?” When George W. Bush, early in his campaign, told reporters that the person who had most profoundly affected his life was Jesus Christ, it almost derailed his campaign! Even during his presidency, I don’t remember White House spokespersons having to reassure reporters that President Bush was really a Christian. The press took his faith at face value and constantly threw it back at him.
And remember how the Left ridiculed him for appointing John Ashcroft, a devout and open evangelical Christian, as his Attorney-General? When it was discovered that Mr. Ashcroft held personal Bible studies in his DOJ office, the Left and the press demanded his resignation. Yet, when Mr. Obama’s deputy press secretary insisted to reporters aboard Air Force One last week that, indeed, the President is “obviously a Christian [because] he prays every day,” every member of the Mainstream Media was as quiet as a church mouse!
As Mister Rogers might have put it, “Can you say ‘double standard’?” But, then, that’s the modus operandi for practitioners of political correctness, social Marxism, and thought-control.
But trust our old friend, Reality, to break up the party. Because of all the controversy over the Ground Zero Mosque (Formerly called “Cordoba House,” then “Park 51 Mosque”, and now we learn it’s not really a mosque, but a community center with a small prayer space!), ‘Happy Ramadan’ dinners at the White House, and the growing suspicion that our President may be a ‘closet’ Muslim, we’ve recently heard a lot of folks give Islam some wonderful reviews. Unfortunately, the truth about Islam doesn’t quite measure up to the good press that Islam has been getting lately. On this week’s program, I’ll examine some of the gaps between ‘reality’ and the politically correct view of Islam.
Also, if you’re a fan of that time-honored literary tradition known as “irony,” you’ll be in high clover this week. A group of ‘interfaith’ leaders gave a press conference in Washington recently in support of The Cordoba Initiative. You will never believe the examples and parallels they cited in their efforts to shame us into going along with the idea. Either these guys are ignorant of Islamic history, they’re blatantly duplicitous (which is my bet), or they’re just plain stupid. Frankly, I wouldn’t want to have to claim any of these options to describe myself, but they’re spoiled for choice.
“In truth, it comes down to a difference in vision and dreams. Does anyone have the right to dismiss someone else’s vision of what America should be?’
Yeah, I think I have the right to dismiss Jefferson Davis’ dream of what America ought to be.
Ditto for Barack Obama’s strange visions.
I am my college professor’s favorite pupil. He calls himself a “philosophical progressive” (whatever that means) and he tells wonderful stories about Mao Zedong and how deeply spirtual it is to become a Progressive. He told us not to pay any attention to those horrible rumors that the Conservatives preach to us about Brother Mao’s murder of 60 million. I know it’s a lie, that’s what a girl on Facebook said. After all, President Obama had a Mao ornamate hanging fron the White House Christmas tree, right on cool. After learning all of these new political ideas, I went out and got the latest Che Guevara t-shirt. It is so rad. My professor went to Harvard like Obama did so I know he loves Che too. My professor said Hollywood helped to revive another leftist martyr but my uncle (who was in the Army) said Hollywood has dutifully churned out yet another cinematic agitprop paean and that I should read to try to discern why many supposedly democratic, civil libertarian liberals still swoon over this Stalinist mass-murderer. What ever that means, later dude.
Look people, the “Anointed One” makes his chess move’s and us babbling humans need to realize that the unbelieving conspiracy “heathen” understate the issues when they say that Obama is a radical. Alas, they know not the secrets we are all going to witness. The “Anointed One” is amazing, he takes the people at the highly efficient Post Office and sends them right over to the Student Loan Program. The “Anointed One” knows all. Twitter messages were machine-gunned to cell phones at mach speed. Facebook and MySpace groups spread across the Internet like digital fire. YouTube videos featuring celebrities ricocheted across the globe and into college students’ in-boxes with devastating regularity. All the while, the Obama mega-money-raising engine whirred on at high speed, until the result became inevitable: an unthinking mass of young voters marched forward to elect the “Anointed One.”
I am not surprised to hear these stinking lies about our “Anointed One,” it should be apparent to anyone that this was coming down the pike. I do have a couple questions about future process steps concerning these developments? When the “Annointed One” decides to start bar-coding everyone, will we get to decide if the mark is on our hand or forehead? Allot of people will prefer the hand, (especially women of course), unless your a porn actress or something along those lines. Also, my girlfriend was wondering if the Administration will be getting fashion advice from Hollyweird or the New York City crowd? We are both agree that the Administration “Maoies” as the “Anointed One ” so lovingly calls them,will be getting uniforms similar to the SS uniforms in Germany in WW2. With big letters abreviating “Barack’s Socialists.” So shall we start calling them the BS?
The Progressives’ Transformation of the 10 Commandments
President Barack Obama promised during his campaign and inaugural speeches that we would witness a fundamental transformation of America. To be sure, his idea of a transformation is more akin to Karl Marx or Hugo Chavez than to Jesus Christ and the Holy Trinity.
Perhaps we should be grateful that, so far, President Obama and his progressive cabal are fixated on health care, cap & trade, climate change and other big government projects. With so much on his plate, Obama hasn’t had time to fundamentally charge the very basis of our legal system — the 10 Commandments, as given to the prophet Moses by Yahweh on Mount Sinai.
But rest assured, there will be many — gay activists, atheists, hard-core leftists, etc. — who will eventually get around to fundamentally transforming God’s 10 Commandments.
I. I am your leader, Obama. When I and my minions are around, who needs God?
II. Obama, Pelosi and Reid must be exalted with carved images throughout the nation.
III. Prayer will be banned in public, but praise, song and poetry honoring Obama will be constant.
IV. Remember the Sabbath Day. Don’t observe it, simply remember it.
V. Honor thy mother and thy father if they love Obama; otherwise, call child protection services and claim they’ve abused you.
VI. Thou shall not kill or abuse terrorists or criminals, but unborn babies may be killed right up to the moment of their birth.
VII. Thou shall marry anyone or any creature you wish with the full protection of Obama.
VIII. Thou shall steal from those who work and save and give such bounty to those who are slothful, irresponsible and non-productive.
IX. Thou shall not bear false witness against your neighbor, unless they refuse to accept Obama as their god and their leader.
X. You shall covet your neighbor’s house. When Obama is done transforming America you will have it.
Why Liberals Teach in Universities
“The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive.”
Dr. Thomas Sowell
It’s hard to figure out what Rick Moran’s game is.
I used to read him at his Confederate Yankee blog and he seemed to be a straight-up, center-right kinda guy who did a dynamite job of covering the loathsome “Shock Troops” scandal in which “The New Republic” published Scott Beauchamp’s fraudulent diaries that made our brave soldiers in the Middle East sound like sick puppies.
Some time after that Moran tried to turn pro as a journalist/commentator and it was then he started writing this more-centrist-than-thou pap lecturing the right on being too right. Maybe this is how he thinks he has to write to become a “real” journalist.
Rick: If we want to be lectured, we just have to listen to Obama. If we want to be lectured by someone theoretically on the right, Peggy Noonan and David Brooks have that base covered, and they know more people and more stuff than you do.
I suggest you find your way as a Confederate Yankee.
John Aman / Coral Ridge Ministries
When critics said that this remark to Joe the Plumber displayed his socialist leanings, Obama justified it by citing Scripture:
“My Bible tells me there is nothing wrong with helping other people,” said then-Sen. Obama. “That we want to treat others like we want to be treated. That I am my brother’s keeper, and I am my sister’s keeper. I believe that.”
But Obama, who once dismissed the Bible’s relevance to politics, saying, “People haven’t been reading their Bibles lately,” may need to go reread his Engels. Co-author with Karl Marx of The Communist Manifesto, Friedrich Engels knew better than Obama about collectivism’s clash with Christianity, stating, “… if some few passages of the Bible may be favourable to Communism, the general spirit of its doctrines is, nevertheless, totally opposed to it ….”
Despite Engels and Marx (who dismissed religion as the “opium of the people”) Obama and many others still manage to see socialism in the Bible. They point to the early church which, at first glance, seems like a model socialist community. The New Testament reports that these first believers “had all things in common” (Acts 4:32) and “all who were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, and laid them at the apostles’ feet; and they distributed to each as anyone had need” (Acts 4:34-35).
But unlike socialism, the sharing was voluntary, not coerced, and the money was given not to the state, but the church. As Southern Baptist leader Richard Land puts it on the new Coral Ridge Ministries documentary, Socialism: A Clear and Present Danger, “It’s one thing for you to give out of compassion to someone who’s less fortunate. It’s an entirely different thing for the government to confiscate your property and give it to someone else.”
While the Bible asserts property rights and the rights of inheritance, socialism assaults them. Marx and Engels put the “abolition of property” first in a 10-step program for implementing communism. That’s not exactly a Christian thing to do. The eighth commandment, “You shall not steal” (Exodus 20:15) applies every bit as much to the men and women who hold the reins of political power as it does to everyone else.
So does the 10th commandment, “You shall not covet” (Exodus 20:17). Coveting, or envy, is a powerful driver of socialism, which is in a perpetual snit that some people have more than others. So when President Obama castigates “Fats Cats” on Wall Street, decries “economic inequality,” and warns, as he did in his 2009 budget statement that a “disproportionate share of the Nation’s wealth has been accumulated by the very wealthy,” he stokes a destructive impulse that is condemned by Scripture.
Socialism also runs afoul of the first commandment, “You shall have no other gods before Me” (Exodus 20:3). Socialist governments seek to play God — to take His place as the ultimate sovereign. Consider the veneration that Russians once gave to the embalmed remains of Lenin and Stalin, the Nazi prescribed prayer to Hitler (“Thy Reich [kingdom] comes, thy will alone is law upon the earth”), and the personality cult surrounding North Korea’s “Dear Leader,” Kim Jong-il.
The sixth commandment, “You shall not murder,” is also widely ignored by Marxist regimes. Marx and Engels proclaimed that their aims could be “attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.” Their disciples, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and other communist henchmen, killed 100 million people, a “tragedy of planetary dimensions,” as the French publisher of The Black Book of Communism put it.
Barack Obama may say that the Bible tells him to be his brother’s keeper (his youngest half-brother reportedly lived in a shack in Kenya on $1 a day at the time he said this) but he ought to go back and reread what God’s Word actually says. Engels was right. Socialism has nothing in common with Scripture.
Barack Obama’s Radical Left connections and his relation to the Cloward Piven strategy are inexorably linked Obama is related to too many radical individuals and organizations to include them all here, but this paper lists perhaps the most significant.
Barack Obama at the epicenter of an incestuous stew of American radical leftism. Not only are his connections significant, they practically define who he is. Taken together, they constitute a who’s who of the American radical left, and guiding all is the Cloward-Piven strategy. Obama’s associates are all radicals, firmly bedded in the anti-American, communist, socialist, radical leftist mesh. Obama is associated with black separatist liberation ideologues, domestic terrorists, Palestinian radicals, Kenyan mass murderers of Christians, and both Moist and Marxist communist radicals. Although Obama now tries to distance himself from them, now that he is running for president, they were all his mentors, allies, friends, contributors, associates and supporters. They befriended him… and he befriended and socialized with them back.
The public knows next to nothing about them, and this is quite alarming considering that the Media is not doing the necessary work to expose them. To examine these relationships is not smearing, it speaks to his true intentions and ideological perspectives. Barack Obama, the Cloward-Piven candidate, no matter how he describes himself, has been a radical activist for most of his political career. That activism has been in support of organizations and initiatives that at their heart seek to tear the pillars of this nation asunder in order to replace them with their demented socialist vision. Their influence has spread so far and so wide that despite their blatant culpability in the current financial crisis, Capital Hill politicians now claim to be able to fix the problem with HOPE AND CHANGE.
Anyone see a pattern developing here?
Obama waives ethics rules for eligibility lawyer White House: Restrictions on top attorney ‘not in public interest’. President Obama has waived ethics rules for White House counsel Robert Bauer, his personal and campaign lawyer – and the same attorney who has defended Obama in lawsuits challenging his eligibility to be president.
Next, Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama says America is one of the largest Muslim countries in the world. In an interview with France’s Canal Plus, Obama suggested that the United States might be a Muslim country. “And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world. Obama said in Turkey that Americans “do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation”.
Next, Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama Freezes Budget for Program Designed to Stop Terrorists from Getting U.S. Visas
“The visa security process is our first line of defense against terrorists and others who wish to do us harm,” Rep. Lamar Smith (Texas), the lead sponsor of the Secure Visas Act, told CNSNews.com. “But under President Obama, new Visa Security Units ground to a halt.” “If the Obama administration will not exercise its authority to develop new VSUs (Visa Security Units) at the highest risk posts identified by its own Department of Homeland Security, Congress must step in,” said Smith.
Anyone see a pattern developing here? #2
Next, Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama’s Envoy “Rashad Hussain” to Islamic Bloc Admits Controversial Statements About Supporter of Terror Group.
Next, the Barry Hussein Obama controlled Pentagon had three Navy SEALs who faced assault charges for capturing one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq. Why?
Next, President Obama appointed Ron Bloom, “Manufacturing Czar” who cites Chairman Mao as a political guide.
Next, President Obama appointed Anita Dunn, White House Communications Director. She stated in an address to high school students this past June that Chairman Mao Tse-tung was one of the two “philosophers” she most often turns to.
Next, WASHINGTON, Dec. 23 /Christian Newswire/ — Christian faith leaders stunned by reports that President Obama would have an ornament of the image of Mao Zedong hanging on the White House Christmas tree.
Next, Valerie Jarrett helped to hire Van Jones, the self admitted Communist.
Anyone see a pattern developing here? #3
Next, it’s John Brennan, President Obama’s national security deputy, thinks Gitmo jihadi recidivism is “not that bad.”
Next, Obama’s relationship with Anti-Israel activism people like Rob Malley (Foreign Policy Advisor). Malley is the Director of the Middle East/North Africa Program at the International Crisis Group (ICG). Malley’s Camp David propaganda has also become fodder for Palestinians, Arab rejectionists, and anti-Israel activists across the world.
Next, Obama had met the leaders of a collection of Jewish groups, ostensibly to quell their concerns about his approach towards Israel. Barely two weeks later, he gives The Medal of Freedom to Mary Robinson, an enemy of Israel AND the host and mastermind of the Durban Conference (anti-Semitic, anti-Israel). By bestowing of the Medal of Freedom on Mary Robinson it is a slap in the face to the pro-Israel community.
Next, George Soros a man who has made clear his goal is to break the close bonds between America and Israel; a man who has also been a key financial backer of President Obama’s; Soros is a funder of the ICG through his Open Society Institute; Other members of the Board include Zbigniew Brzezinski (whose anti-Israel credentials are impeccable) and Wesley Clark (who called US support for Israel during the Hezbollah War a “serious mistake”.
Anyone see a pattern developing here? #4
Next, Daniel Kurtzer another State Department official, blamed the Israeli response to terror attacks for “the radicalization of those Palestinians to violence”. He does not characterize the perpetrators as terrorists but as “guerillas”. accepts a false premise: that the Palestinian problem is the core of the conflict in the Middle East.
Next, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano. Beginning with her embrace of the impotent euphemism “man-caused disasters” to the hit job on conservatives and veterans that she was forced to apologize for, to her assertion that crossing the border illegally, “isn’t a crime per se”, to her claim that 9/11 terrorists came in through the Canadian border. The latest is the Times Square bomber, with reassuring a frazzled nation that the failed bombing appeared to be an isolated incident — a “one-off” — and avoided the notion of (much less the word) “terrorism.”
Next, Wednesday, April 15, 2009. Georgetown University says it covered over the monogram “IHS”–symbolizing the name of Jesus Christ—because it was inscribed on a pediment on the stage where President Obama spoke at the university on Tuesday and the White House had asked Georgetown to cover up all signs and symbols there.
Next, Eric Holder has been busy. H.R. 2159, the Disarming American Citizens Act allowing anti-gun Attorney General Eric Holder to revoke the Second Amendment rights of ANY American he chooses based on pure “suspicion”; A new so-called “Assault Weapons” Ban, H.R. 45, the “Catch-All” Obama Gun Control Bill, and The U.N.’s so-called “Small Arms Treaty,” which would confiscate and destroy ALL “unauthorized” civilian firearms and set the stage for INTERNATIONAL gun confiscation.
Anyone see a pattern developing here? #5
Next, Barry Hussein Barack Obama’s ties with the highly corrupt ACORN organization have been extensive over the years, a fact almost entirely unreported by the liberal mainstream news media. The Obama campaign, according to the “Times,” paid ACORN $800,000 to register voters and do other work. Obama, when serving on the board of the Woods Fund in Chicago, gave ACORN money. “Investor’s Business Daily” has called Barack Obama “ACORN’s Senator.” And the Obama administration got up to $2 billion of taxpayer funding in Obama’s first 60 days for organizations such as ACORN.
Next, Obama administration official, speaking to a group of reporters, characterized the Fort Hood shooting as “an act of terrorism,” the first time an administration official has used that term in describing the massacre. Asked repeatedly about the relationship between Hasan and extremists in Yemen, the administration official declined to make that direct link.
Next, Barry Barak Hussein Soetoro Obama has consistently shown himself to be a liberal elitist who looks down on “ordinary” Americans. Asked while campaigning for the Pennsylvania primary to explain why small-town Democrats did not support him, Obama replied “it’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” When Obama made this remark he was alluding to small-town people who had experienced long periods of joblessness. In response to predictable outrage when his remarks were unexpectedly publicized, Obama did not recant his statement but instead replied, I “didn’t say it as well as I should have.”
Anyone see a pattern developing here? #6
Next, Martin Indyk, a former U.S. Ambassador to Israel and current foreign policy advisor to Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, continued the Administration’s arrogant handling of our ally. He told Israel Army Radio that the tiny nation needs to fall in line with American foreign policy or suffer the consequences. Among other threats, he said, “If you need the United States, then you need to take account of America’s interests.” He said that Mr. Netanyahu has a very simple choice: “Take on the President of the United States, or take on his right wing.” Indyk knows that if Netanyahu heeds the President’s demands, the right wing parties in his fragile coalition will walk. If they walk, the Israeli government will collapse — which is precisely what Obama and Clinton want. That way, Netanyahu will be forced to accept the Kadima party into his coalition and give the chronic appeaser, Tzipi Livni, a major role in the government. Goodbye, Israeli sovereignty. Hello, national suicide.
Update about Barry, Billy, and Franklin. Franklin Graham (like his father) is a courageous man who is stating the obvious to millions of Americans – that Islam is not a peaceful religion. But his words fall like a hammer to those on the politically-correct Left who don’t even believe there is such a thing as right and wrong, good and evil. To them, all things are shades of gray, especially when it comes to religion. But all you have to do is look at what Islam produces in a society where it is the dominant religion. Where on earth is there a place that Islam is dominant where you also find respect for human rights, freedom of religion, and an absence of terrorist jihadist activity? A few days later Barry took an afternoon relaxing drive to go see Billy and Franklin Graham. Of course it was just coincidence that just days before the Pentagon disinvited Franklin from speaking at the National Day of Prayer observance at the Pentagon because Franklin had said Islam was evil. On Islam, Graham stood by his past remarks when he was asked by Campbell Brown if Islam is an “evil religion.” Graham responded: “Well, Campbell, if you take just the way they treat women, I have a real problem with Islam – I do. The way they treat women – it is horrid. It is not a peaceful religion that President Bush and President Obama tried to tell the American people it is – it is not that at all.” Franklin Graham said he and Obama spoke briefly about the Pentagon spat, with the younger Graham saying that activists with an agenda were trying to pull all religion out of the military. “I wanted to make him aware of that,” Franklin Graham said. “He said he would look into it.” Franklin Graham’s mesaage is exactly why Barry Hussen Obama visited the Grahams.
Anyone see a pattern developing here? #7
Next, Arab-American Activist Says Barry Barak Hussein Obama Hiding Anti-Israel Stance / 16 Adar Bet 5768, 23 March 08 10:03by Gil Ronen (IsraelNN.com) Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama is currently hiding his anti-Israel views in order to get elected, according to a well-known anti-Israel activist. The activist, Ali Abunimah, claimed to know Obama well and to have met him on numerous occasions at pro-Palestinian events in Chicago. In an article he penned for the anti-Israeli website Electronic Intifada, Abunimah wrote: “The last time I spoke to Obama was in the winter of 2004 at a gathering in Chicago’s Hyde Park neighborhood. He was in the midst of a primary campaign to secure the Democratic nomination for the United States Senate seat he now occupies. But at that time polls showed him trailing. “As he came in from the cold and took off his coat, I went up to greet him. He responded warmly, and volunteered, ‘Hey, I’m sorry I haven’t said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race. I’m hoping when things calm down I can be more up front.’ He referred to my activism, including columns I was contributing to the The Chicago Tribune critical of Israeli and US policy [and said:] ‘Keep up the good work!”
Next, ever wonder why our “lame-stream” press never has any further news about the White House gate-crashers Tareq and Michaele Salahi? Party Crashers’ had a five-year relationship with Obama before State Dinner, why didn’t the White House just say so? This is why: Obama Met Gatecrashers in 2005: According to Discover the Networks, ATFP’s former vice president is Rashid Khalidi, the Columbia University Middle East Studies professor and militant Palestinian rights activist. Khalidi cites the late Edward Said as his major influence, and according to the entry cited, “As with Said before him, Khalidi’s involvement with the Palestinian cause goes beyond mere support.” And, “Khalidi so strongly identified with the aims of the PLO, which was designated as a terrorist group by the State Department during Khalidi’s affiliation with it in the 1980s, that he repeatedly referred to himself as ‘we’ when expounding on the PLO’s agenda.” Also, according to Campus Watch, ATFP remains in full support of Kha lidi, for example, during charges of academic misconduct in 2005, at the time of Senator Barack Obama’s meeting with Tareq Salahi.
Anyone see a pattern developing here? #8
Next, Barry Barak Hussein Soetoro Obama wants to be president of these 57 United States? / May 9, 2008 | 1:42 pm Ah, Oregon. The beautiful Northwest. Rain. Trees. Clouds. Rain. Friendly territory for Sen. Barry Barack Hussen Obama, the leading contender for the Democratic Party’s long-disputed presidential nomination. Illinois Senator and leading Democratic presidential candidate Obama speaking to a friendly crowd.”It is wonderful to be back in Oregon,” Obama said. “Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it.” Coincidently, comprising 57 states, the Organization of the Islamic Conference is the second-largest intergovernmental institution in the world after the UN. It is a unique body. A political organization, it pursues a religious mission. The charter of the OIC makes clear that it exists, not only to promote the economic and humanitarian goals of member states, but also to “defend” and “disseminate” Islam itself.
Next, Unemployment in America is hovering at just below 10 percent, so President Barry Barack Hussein Obama hosts a “Summit on Entrepreneurship” in Washington, D.C., in an effort to boost economic development … in Muslim nations? The president thinks more U.S. investment in Muslim lands and exchange programs that will bring Muslim women to America so they can work as interns will enhance U.S. prosperity and, thus, change Muslim attitudes about the United States. Egypt receives about $2 billion of American taxpayer dollars every year, yet it still votes against American interests at the U.N. 79 percent of the time. Jordan, a “moderate” Muslim nation, receives nearly $200 million annually in U.S. foreign aid, but votes against America at the U.N. 71 percent of the time. Pakistan votes 75 percent of the time against the U.S. at the U.N. while pocketing nearly $7 million annually in foreign aid (in addition to the money it gets to supposedly fight al-Qaida). Since 2007, U.S. foreign aid to the Palestinian Authority and to PA-controlled (nongovernmental organizations) reached nearly $2 billion, in addition to $3.7 billion contributed by the U.S. to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East. Has this aid produced jobs?
Anyone see a pattern developing here? #9
Next, Barry Barack Hussein Obama Tries to Eradicate Radical Islam / April 9, 2010. The Obama administration has just announced its intent to ban all words that allude to Islam from important national security documents. Put differently, the Obama administration has just announced its intent to ban all knowledge and context necessary to confront and defeat radical Islam (news much welcomed by Islamist organizations like CAIR).
Next, From Sunday’s 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, Televised “Meet the Press” THE THEN Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag. General Bill Ginn’ USAF (ret.) asked Barry Barak Hussen Obama to explain WHY he doesn’t follow protocol when the National Anthem is played. The General stated to Obama that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171…During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Or, at the very least, “Stand and Face It”. ‘Senator’ Obama replied: “As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides”. “There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression..” “The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all that sort of thing.”
Next, President Barry Barack Hussein Obama spoke to the graduating class at Hampton University in Hampton, Virginia. The man who made the internet a cornerstone of his campaign, tweeted (or twitted?) constantly to hundreds of thousands, if not millions of young fans, and used Facebook and other social media to great advantage, told the graduates that they were facing a new world in which they would be bombarded by too much unfiltered information. Further, the man who won election on the promise of ‘change’, told them that, unfortunately, the breathtaking change caused by this overload of information couldn’t be stopped. His speech seemed to imply that being exposed to all kinds of arguments is a BAD thing. That it might even threaten democracy. It’s a far cry from the time Americans treasured a ‘multiplicity of voices.’ That expansive variety of thought and expression guaranteed that somehow, some way, the truth would be heard. Apparently, that’s not what the Obama administration has in mind. In fact, in the financial reform bill, they’re seeking to put control of the internet in the hands of the Federal Trade Commission. Think about the almost total control of every aspect of our lives the government has gained through the misapplication of interstate commerce laws!
Anyone see a pattern developing here? #10
Next, Jon Huntsman (former Republican governor of Utah, and current ambassador to the People’s Republic of China) has not addressed the recent ridiculousness over our State Department apologizing to the People’s Republic of China for Arizona’s enforcement of the government’s own illegal immigration policy. Because it’s now officially part of the national discussion: The absolute low point of Barry Barak Hussen’s diplomatic escapades came last Friday, when a U.S. State Department delegation met with Chinese negotiators to discuss human rights. Apparently, our State Department felt it necessary to make their Chinese guests feel less bad about their own record of human rights abuses by repeatedly atoning for American “sins” – including, it seems, the Arizona immigration/pro-border security law. Instead of grilling the Chinese about their appalling record on human rights, the State Department continued the unbelievable apology tour by raising “early and often” Arizona’s decision to secure our border. Who’s side is this Administration on?
Next, Rep. Pete Hoekstra of Michigan, the ranking member on the House intelligence committee, says the resignation of Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair “is the result of the Obama administration’s rampant politicization of national security and outright disregard for congressional intelligence oversight.” Hoekstra, who formerly served as chairman of the intelligence committee, issued a written statement saying that Blair’s readiness to step down, considering his record of service to the country, was “a disturbing sign of the stranglehold the Obama White House has placed on America’s intelligence agencies.” Clearly, and understandably, Director Blair was frustrated by the White House’s micromanagement and sidelining of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence on national security issues. “Blair’s resignation is the result of the Obama administration’s rampant politicization of national security and outright disregard for congressional intelligence oversight. Blair’s resignation is disturbing and unfortunate. The concerns I have come from how the Obama administration conducts national security, not over the director of national intelligence, who they never allowed to do it.
“Congressional Republicans we will be watching closely who the president plans to name as a successor. Right now, the Obama administration’s national security apparatus is broken, dysfunctional and in disarray. Dennis Blair was the one person you could count on for rationality among Holder, Napolitano and Brennan—and he’s the one the president let go.”
Anyone see a pattern developing here? #12
Next, May 2010: President Barry Barak Hussen Obama is trying to allay the fears of American Jewish voters as we approach the mid-term elections. Some of his advisers are making conciliatory statements to the press; he’s told Middle East envoy George Mitchell to ease up on the arm-twisting; and he even approved $200 million to assist Israel in building a defensive weapons system. That’s all fine, but this is one of those situations where you have to be careful about watching the one hand while the other picks your pocket. The President may seem to be trying to make nice with Israel, but, at the same time, he has approved America’s formal membership in the Alliance of Civilizations. This UN organization was founded in 2006 to bridge “the gaps between Muslim and Western civilizations.” President Bush refused to join because he recognized that it would be used by hostile nations to bludgeon Israel. Sure enough, in the last four years the Alliance of Civilizations has promoted the idea that the main reason for the Muslim-Western rift is Israel, its settlement activity, and its very existence. Sounds like just the kind of organization President Obama would love. So, sign us up! Oh, that’s right, he already has.
Next, May 2010: think the previous story is the worst that it can get? Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri visited the White House this week. His nation plays amiable host to Iran’s creation and proxy, Hezbollah. In fact, Hariri has invited members of Hezbollah into his government. Though Mr. Obama pressed Hariri about the transfer of long-range missiles to Hezbollah, the Prime Minister seemed undeterred. Maybe this is why. Apparently, the real purpose for his visit was to threaten our President. He said that Mr. Obama was running out of time. If he didn’t force an Israeli-Palestinian peace deal that satisfied Arab demands soon, the result will be increased violence and extremism in the Middle East. What is it with these foreign heads of state coming into ‘the people’s house’ and knocking the U.S. or giving us ultimatums?
Next, Barry Hussein Obama’s Nominee for Deputy Attorney General Says 9/11 Attacks Not Acts of War, Likens Them to Domestic Crimes of Murder, Rape
Monday, June 14, 2010. Despite a resolution by Congress authorizing war against those responsible for the 9/11 terrorist attacks, President Obama’s nominee to be the number two official at the Justice Department, James Cole, wrote an op-ed in 2002 likening the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon to the domestic crimes of murder, rape and child abuse, while arguing that the attackers ought to be treated like domestic criminals. “But the attorney general is not a member of the military fighting a war–he is a prosecutor fighting crime,” Cole wrote in a Sept. 9, 2002 article in Legal Times that critiqued the way then-Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft was handling the 9/11 case. “For all the rhetoric about war, the Sept. 11 attacks were criminal acts of terrorism against a civilian population, much like the terrorist acts of Timothy McVeigh in blowing up the federal building in Oklahoma City, or of Omar Abdel-Rahman in the first effort to blow up the World Trade Center,” said Cole. “The criminals responsible for these horrible acts were successfully tried and convicted under our criminal justice system, without the need for special procedures that altered traditional due process rights.
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Next, “Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barry Barack Hussein Obama’s pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group’s Commission for a Sustainable World Society [Socialist International], which calls for ‘global governance’ and says rich countries must shrink their economies. “Democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal, rather than religion-specific, values. Now this is going to be difficult for some who believe in the inerrancy of the Bible as many evangelicals do.”
Next, Barry Hussein gets NASA to reach out and make Arabs feel good about their history? I thought they were supposed to be involved in Space research?
Next, Unbelievable. You’re not going to guess what our tax dollars are subsidizing. Actually, in this ObamaNation, maybe you will guess it. It turns out that you and I are funding the State Department to purchase and distribute copies of Feisal Abdul Rauf’s book, What’s Right With Islam: A New Vision for Muslims and the West.
Rauf is the imam behind the Ground Zero mosque and is the same imam who won’t condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization; the same imam who said on “60 Minutes” that America was an “accessory” to September 11; and, as we reported at Human Events, the same imam who told a college audience overseas that the United States is worse than al Qaeda.
Yep, that dude. And not only has the State Department anointed him as our ad hoc ambassador to the Muslim world, but now they are acting as his personal Barnes & Noble to boot. Good grief! Buried in a recent New York Times article on Imam Rauf’s global hopscotch, the paper casually referenced that our government buys his tome in an effort “to lecture about tolerance” and pursue “interfaith dialogue” with Islamic nations.
Only in the left’s strange world does it make sense to support Imam Rauf as a goodwill spokesman for the United States while he’s busy trashing the United States. But that aside, did the bureaucrats at the State Department ever take the time to read Rauf’s What’s Right with Islam? If so, they’ll have to justify why they’re promoting a book that faults America for stirring up conflict with Muslims, brags that America is “Sharia compliant,” and makes excuses for suicide bombings.
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Next, Barry Barack Hussein Obama’s first presidential meeting with a foreign leader was not with that of Great Britain — one of our two closest allies, whose prime minister stood down opposition within his own party to join the effort in Iraq. Obama met with Palestinian National Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of the Fatah party, to stress the importance of restarting the Israeli-Palestinian “peace process” — which Obama considered essential to moderate Arab and Muslim views.
Obama chastised Israel, the other of our two closest allies, for building “settlements” in east Jerusalem — even though, pre-Obama, the Palestinian leadership had already accepted construction in that area as part of any future deal. Obama gave his first presidential sit-down interview to Al-Arabiya television network, where he asked “countries like Iran … to unclench their fist.” He hoped to deter Iran from obtaining a nuclear bomb, something candidate Obama called a “game changer” and “unacceptable.”
Next, Obama expects us to believe that he sat through twenty years of Rev. Wright’s anti-American, anti-white rants but never once heard or internalized any of that negative and racial propaganda! It’s as though someone had attended Communist Party political meetings for twenty years and then claimed that since no one had ever publicly uttered the word “Communist” in one of the meetings they couldn’t possibly have been Communist meetings. Obama has yet to learn that American citizens are overly forgiving, but they are not stupid.
If President Obma were serving in the U.S. Military and the military discovered that for the last twenty years he’d been attending weekly meetings where the leader of the meetings was spewing hate filled anti-American, anti-white rhetoric, the military would immediately cancel his security clearance and unceremoniously kick him out of the service because such a man could never be trusted with the nation’s defense secrets.
Did Obama’s up-bringing, influences, indoctrination, environment and education adequately prepare him to loyally and faithfully perform the duties that are required of America’s Commander-in-Chief? In short, can he be trusted?
So tell me Mr. Moran, do you see a pattern here?
>He may lack the emotional touchstones that define heartfelt patriotism, and deny the ultimate specialness of America that gives us all pride and a purpose to achieve and excel. But that doesn’t make him any less an American than anyone else.
Yeah, it does.
Call me kooky, but I like my Presidents to think America is the best thing since the wheel.
Obama doesn’t. He is a self-centered jackanape.
“But that doesn’t make him any less an American than anyone else. And neither you nor I have the competence to make that judgment in the first place.”
I don’t have to be “competent” in plumbing the depths of Obama’s situational psyche. I’m over 18, an American citizen, and I can vote–based on any reason and whim that pleases me at the moment. Currently, I consider Obama an unexceptional transnational European post American president, which I gather means less of an American, just as he considers most Americans to be unexceptional, a little people, a silly people, mean, cruel, and ruthless.
And yet our compact has each of us seek to the more perfect Union with our fellow man: we are not angels, therefore perfection is denied us and our highest aspiration is to be better than we were.
There is no ‘just a little bit’ of being absolutely perfect, and the systems that grow up around these two visions are starkly different. One seeks the equality of treatment under the law, and the other the equality of results as dictated from government.
The difference between societies that recognize this and those that see man as perfectable is a vast ocean… of blood spilled seeking utter perfection at any cost. The price is human liberty as the former allows you to seek your own movement to be more perfect and the other seeks to impose perfection upon you. That is not a gulf that can be bridged, or two sides to a coin – it is a difference that spells liberty on one side and slavery to government on the other. There is no fence to sit on between these two, no ‘side’ that allows both to co-exist fully. In those lands where liberty resides you are to take care of yourself in the knowledge that all are judged equally without favor or fervor for any… and in the other you expect to be taken care of and submit yourself to the dictates of the rulers above you who will make you perfect, no matter how painful that is to you.
In wandering from the path of liberty to the siren’s song of sweet expediency in letting government do things for us as individuals, we slowly release our grip on our very lives… until you see the dark face of the siren, the rocks before the creature, and the deadliness of the seas about you. The song of perfection is ever so sweet, ever so misleading, and can only be avoided by setting one course and chaining yourself to the ship until it is past the sirens. Our ship heads towards the rocky shores in search of the sirens song, and there is no course you can set that both gets you to them and that avoids them completely. The choice for personal liberty, personal responsibility and doing for yourself is in your hands… do you wish to uphold your part of our compact to make yourself more perfect? Or do you wish our government to make us perfect in the vision of those in charge?
Your choice of being free or indentured permanently to government is coming because of our ill-founded choices. Will you pass on our debts to our children and grandchildren, or sacrifice the pleasant things government does so as to set our children free? Accepting the candy of government, now, ensures our children will not escape from its grasp. Sacrificing a comfortable life, now, will start you on a path towards accepting your burden you bring with you to this earth. It is not a pleasant choice, that, but such is life until you give your life to others to decide… your health, your welfare, your retirement, your death…
One route is to liberty.
The other to tyranny.
And only you can decide which you will take for yourself and for our posterity.
Rick you’re more of a moron than your last name implies. Wise up.
Relapse Summer 2010
As thousands of mortgagors, many of whom wouldn’t qualify for mortgages in the real world, line up to be bailed out by the feds, as the nation’s recession birth rate falls to 2.7%, the lowest in a century, as Joint Chief of Staffs Chairman Mike Mullen warns that the national debt is endangering national security, President Nero Obama fiddles away, chows down on shrimp and lobster, golfs, parties with the other rich and famous on Martha’s Vineyard, and generally enjoys the hell out of his sixth vacation this year.
Is anyone minding the ranch? It certainly isn’t our vice president who revels in his own non-existent, Nirvana.
It can’t yet be termed a double dipper, it certainly isn’t the Big Dipper, but VP Joe Biden’s sanguine reference some weeks ago to the summer of 2010 as “recovery summer” is turning out to be one of the dumbest and most presumptuous remarks our dumb and presumptuous vice president has made to date.
Even if Biden’s July mantra was only part of the administration’s campaign to convince the American people not to believe their lying eyes and those lying economic numbers and it wasn’t one his very original observations such as, “This is a f***ing big deal!” the term “Recovery Summer” has been hung around the VP’s neck like a dead economic albatross.
And, not only is Recovery Summer 2010 collapsing into Relapse Summer 2010 but the administration doesn’t seem to much care or notice any more than they notice former rabid supporters turning on them as if they had a terminal dose of the plague.
When the CBO announces that Obama’s stimulus “may” have added 3.1 million jobs and lowered the unemployment rate by up to 1.7% in the second quarter and is unable to substantiate either of those bizarre claims and no one is able to locate any of those phantom jobs and the Commerce Department reports a paltry 1.7% GDP increase in that same quarter, people begin to wonder as should the Obamians.
When staunch Obamian from day one, David Letterman, begins cracking jokes about the sorry state of America’s financial affairs and refers to his former hero as a one-term president, which Letterman has been doing of late, Obamians might want to consider sitting up and taking notice even if, by force of habit, Dave and his writers still reserve their most scathing rips for George W. Bush.
However, when the media mogul, gazillionaire, highly-influential Mortimer B. Zuckerman . . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1867)
This is the final straw…. There is no evidence whatsoever in any of this twaddle
that enables one to arrive at a rational conclusion similar to the author’s.
This is impossibly stupid. If someone in the old Soviet Union had a vision of the USSR as a republic of free men, then he was definitely ‘less Soviet’ than Brezhnev.
Obama’s view of things, had it prevailed at our founding, would have made the very Idea of the US moot.
We live – lived – in the only truly free country in history. Now we live in a bureaucratic dictatorship that is only going to get worse.
It’s not just un-American, Moran, it’s anti-American. Just like Obama himself.
Call Him Roy suffers from volumitis, AKA “Bleacher’s Syndrome,” marked by the narcissistic conviction that the more he writes the smarter he sounds.
Oh, goodie…I have my very own deranged stalker. A guy who takes a woman’s name as his handle, and wakes up every morning to come to a site dedicated to discussion, to which he is the “thorn” in the side.
What kind of mental defective wakes up every day and goes to call other people names? Apparently, the kind that has decided to stalk me. Is there a medication for these types or are we simply left to ponder why they have one green wire crossed with one yellow wire an pity their pathetic lives?
“What kind of mental defective wakes up every day and goes to call other people names?”
That much pretty much covers it. Sixteen little words that reveal the blind hypocrisy of the right.
(You guys really need to get off that 16 word thing. That’s not a good number for you.)
But hey, 16 is better 1600. You’re making progress. Next up for ya, the thinking part.
Now quit stalking me.
Wassamatta, ‘BK’? Couldn’t meet the IQ requirements to post at DailyKossack? Please consider why to bother at all posting here if you have nothing to add. Most of us here enjoy a decent discussion – without such childish distractors.
My main gripe with Obama is that he doesn’t like America or Americans. That doesn’t make him less an American it just makes him non-presidential mjaterial unfit for higher office.
Most of the comments are totally over the top. Rick’s just pointing out the ABC of democracy. Half of the time team A wins and half of the time team B. As a conservative I want the Republicans to win most of the time but if the Democrats are in power, life goes on. And no, President Obama is neither a Marxist, wants to bring Sharia law and all the other nonsense. According to that logic Germany is a socialist county with, what?, socialist companies like Mercedes Benz, T- Mobile, and Siemens. Come on, get real.
But you obviously don’t understand; the sky IS falling!
On a more serious note, an underlying phenomenon on the left and right fringes of American politics is that many do not trust democracy, or at least mutter and sputter to that effect. A question; should internet commenters lose their credibility when they talk as if “tyrannical majority rule” will call for blood in the streets? Anyway, your point is well taken that you win some elections, you lose some, and we go back and forth between center left and center right.
However, a view from the other side: in “Civil Disobedience” Thoreau excoriated his countrymen for settling for voting only; he said that it was a kind of gaming; that people would vote, accept the decision of the majority, and move on, whereas he thought (particularly in the context of slavery) that a citizen was obligated to do more. However, history tells me that it was only when the votes were finally there to elect a Lincoln, that we were almost ready to fight. Our current (and, yes, continual) movement toward Big Government and “Socialism” does not strike me as Civil War material.
yes, I agree, nothing wrong with civil disobedience, demonstrations, fund raising, getting engaged. However, the founders loved debating on a high intellectual level. That includes the correct use of words. I actually read “das Kapital” from Karl Marx where he basically calls for the ever growing working class to take over the factories from the capitalists. Kind of an inevitable event in his mind. You can rightly disagree with Obama on many things, he is just not a Marxist because I haven’t heard him calling for a take over by the working class.
You may be right. You may be EXACTLY right. But sorry, that kind of level headed insight just isn’t histrionic enough. In fact, it dampens the marketability of our conservative zealotry. Please, keep your common sense to yourself.
Betty knows which way the political winds are blowing…..nearly hysterical the girly man screeches out and lashes out and alas, the flighty Betty STRIKES OUT. There’s no
joy in leftland tonight. As for me the center field view suits me just fine, thank you.
Your post overflowing with relativism displays – with ELAN! – both Leftist’ contempt (see also pathetic droppings of Dwight and Betty Knows) and an ignorance of Europe.
Having experienced Communism, National Socialism, and now slowly bailing out Democratic Socialism, Germany still is no comparison to the United States. But see what it has done to the people as a culture: envy, selfishness that can only be likened to your posts in its bitterness.
Bitter? He’s pragmatic; YOU are bitter.
Stick to sarcasm, Dwight; it seems the only thing you do well.
I have to apologize, Ed, but I don’t understand your comment. Are you saying you understand Germany better than me? Leftist contempt? where?
@ odd,queer guy 2:53pm
Having lived there 6 years, YES. But that is secondary to my point; I’m sure you’re aware of that.
Ed,
it’s just you throw around a lot of words that are somewhat difficult to connect. Regarding Germany; hm quite a statement. However, I’m a 100% sure my German is better than yours. Natuerlich koennte ich mich hier auch irren, nun denn. Maybe my English is not as well crafted as yours, just excuse my unsuccessful attempts to localize the “bitterness” you are detecting in my comments. If I’m not mistaken West Germany was part of the “free” West and has prospered ever since with the usual ups and downs. Where in the world is the problem here?
From my limited experience with Ed, his responses are 90% snark and 10% content. When he has little of substance to say, which is apparently most of the time, he just goes goes into insult mode. He evidently believes that he is in possession of absolute truth, hence his violent allergy to “relativism.” It just does not seem to extend very far out into the world as we know it.
Enjoy your serfdom or, more probably, you hoped-for future position as a minor appartchik.
Rhetoric aside, anybody who fails to see the very substantial difference between this crew and every other crew the country has ever had simply can’t be persuaded.
Look at it from dozens of perspectives:
- background
- allies
- appointees
- his words
- the agenda
- has “promises” (lol)
- the legislation
- illegality of his actions
- refusal to even acknowledge the will of the people
- government interventions with private enterprise
- bowing and scraping to enemies
- snubbing allies
- thuggary
- the incessant slurs and lies
- demonization of every group that don’t agree with him
- his own boastful and deceptive assertion of “fundamental transforamation”
- etc., etc., etc.,
It isn’t a set of minor adjustments to the government. It’s a wholesale and radical “transformation” from a set of long-established governing principles and traditions to a way of doing business that is alien to everything that has ever happened in this country. Its quantitative, qualitative and philosophical. Even Carter, the most liberal prior administration, wasn’t even close. Wilson is probably the only reasonable antecedent and so little was known about progressivism / Marxism at the time, and the engagement of the public was so much less than now that even Wilson can’t really be compared to the current “tranformationists”.
It is so blatant and abvious that your phrase “As a conservative” is either a lie, you are willfully blind, or you are incapable of understanding what is going on. My bet is the first, since we know the marxists spend huge sums sending operatives out to try to mitigate the people’s anger with the regime.
so according to your ‘hunch’, I’m a Marxist operative. Are you sure I’m not an Islamist Alynski lover, or something?
Let me tell you something, I’m a Conservative who has had enough of people like you telling me what I am, what to think and what to understand. If you have something besides paranoid nonsense, let me know.
C’mon, odd/queerMan, you can do *better*.
What we’re all talking about here is the classic AXELROD ASTROTURF “Concern Troll.”
You don’t have to play coy with us any further, darling….
Until then, just skip the diversionary tactics and stay on topic…or stay on HuffPo.
If you want to sell me your lack of coherent thought as “conservative”, I’m not buying it.
Moran is using the classic socialist apologist approach to how Americans view THEIR political leadership. No, America isn’t a ‘relativistic’ nation. We know what our nation is supposed to be. We know what our leaders are supposed to believe and represent. We aren’t supposed to abandon our values just because we change leaders. And, yes, we can disapprove of their actions, beliefs, positions, policies and opinions. “We” are the governed, the place from which our leaders derive their authority. Without ‘our’ support they can not be effective leaders. Without their understanding of both their constituency AND leadership they become ipso facto defunct as functionaries of the position they hold. Arrogance and elitism are deeply corrosive influences even against strong leaders. This president has no understanding of either reading people or how to lead them. Coupled with the corrosive influences of his arrogance and elitism he becomes a reckless and feckless figure head. Even a blind man can see a failure if this magnitude.
Just out of curiosity: socialist apologist approach? When did Karl Marx ever “apologize”? What book did I miss?
Since when did we conservatives start having a problem with an elite? I don’t. Just like you wouldn’t want Joe Sixpack as your surgeon, I don’t want him as President. That would be egalitarian leftist nonsense nothing remotely conservative.
No one here suggested here that Karl Marx did this ir that here.
Das ist deine blöde Ablenkungsmanöver, du Depp.
No one is buying your distractions. Enjoy HuffPo.
I’m just trying to have a conversation with rational conservatives. Ok, so you stayed in Bavaria judging from Ja san mir jetzt die Deppen; anyway; have fun. Dwight seems to be right though
Wow: a not-so-funny-guy and a guy named Dwight:
Tag Teaming Trolls.
I’m so NOT persuaded.
(Try staying on topic without diversions. But that would thwart your purpose, eh?!)
Everyone should read the ‘Manchurian President’… the problem with BHO and his entire White house… and a goodly number of Congressmen… is that they are ALL COMMUNISTS… members of the ‘New Party’, CPUSA(Communist Party USA), DSA and many more alphabet soup Communist organizations.. these people are EVIL incarnate… and will ENSLAVE us all if we allow it.
For some time now, Mr. Moran has declared the Constitution to be out of date and needful of reform. He cites the archaic language, the fact that America of 2010 is not the America of 1776, and that we need to delve deeply into the psychology of the founding fathers to find the way to a new Constitution, or else to listen to the sirens of the Left whem composing this new day for America.
This is nonsense. What we need is not a new Constitution, but Judges, Legislators and Politicos that not only know in detail and respect the Constitution we have, but defend it properly as their pledge says they should. It is theirs to make work for a time, so they should not abuse their priveleges, and believe they have the right new approach, while neglecting or trying to extend their primary functions and powers.
Meanwhile it is up to us, the public, to pay attention to what these modernizers are trying to implement, and to throw them out of office at the first opportunity.
Hi Manning
good to see you
funny man! LTNS