Olbermann’s Raw Deal
At first blush, the indefinite suspension of Keith Olbermann by MSNBC for donating money to candidates for office might seem the cherry on top of a delectable political week. With the crushing GOP victory, the probable deep-sixing of the radical Obama agenda, and the hysterical spectacle of liberals alternately calling the American people stupid and Democrats cowards, there has been enough crowd-pleasing entertainment to make Barnum and Bailey jealous.
If it were just Olbermann, or just MSNBC, the celebrations would go on far into the night. Certainly, the faux journalist Olbermann, whose “Special Comment” is among the most hyperbolic, exaggerated, and mean-spirited political commentary available, is the least deserving of sympathy of any figure on the left in America. He oozes a sneering, self-righteous superiority that only liberals who feel similarly blessed with outsized notions of transcendence can stomach. Reportedly, he is not a very nice fellow either, but how could he be otherwise given the manner in which he routinely portrays the opposition as a cross between the devil and Hitler?
None of this is news to anyone who has a passing familiarity with political debate in America. Yet the rapidity with which MSNBC bounced Olbermann from the network begs several questions. What did he do that other journalists — including those at Fox News — haven’t done? Why now? And why should MSNBC all of a sudden feign an interest in impartiality?
Alas, Babylon. The press in America have never been “impartial,” and the grandiose proclamations of objectivity and neutrality in covering politics this last century made by sober-minded newspaper editors were always more for purposes of marketing than related to any claim based in reality. “Yellow journalism” aside, the great publishers in the 19th and early 20th century were all house organs for one of the two political parties. Major dailies were political kingmakers, and a word from a Horace Greeley or Robert McCormick could make or break a politician’s career.
What made this arrangement preferable to the insufferable hypocrisy we experience today with the media is that everybody knew which side the press was on. Being forewarned is being forearmed, and at a time when there were a dozen dailies in New York City alone, if you didn’t like Hearst’s take you could always read what the Sulzbergers had to say about politics. There was never a lack of choice as far as the news consumer being exposed to the spin from both parties.
Today, even little children know that MSNBC has a strong, pronounced liberal Democratic bias and a demonstrated animus against conservative Republicans. This is not a secret nor is it necessarily bad. If you don’t like the network’s tiresome promotion of Democratic candidates and causes, you can always switch over to Fox’s equally tiresome boosting of conservatives and the GOP.
This makes the NBC News policy against “journalists” giving money to their favorite candidates inexplicable. Who are they kidding? According to Politico, NBC isn’t alone in this exercise in serio-comic absurdity:
NBC has a rule against employees contributing to political campaigns, and a wide range of news organizations prohibit political contributions — considering it a breach of journalistic independence to contribute to the candidates they cover.
How can you “breach” something that exists only in the minds of arrogant popinjays who think that journalism is a “calling”? One assumes the humanity of reporters — normally — and therefore they cannot be immune from the biases shared by everyone else. Editors, whose job description includes removing as much bias as possible from a story, generally share the point of view of their reporters and are either too lazy or too blinded to their own prejudices to recognize bias when it pops up in someone else’s work. In the end, journalists are about as “independent” as Eastern Europe was during the Cold War. You don’t have to scratch very far below the surface to reveal the nauseating hypocrisy that is contributing to the end of journalism as we know it.
Olbermann’s punishment does not fit the crime. He violated company policy — a policy rooted in fantasy and outmoded notions of journalists as ink-stained cavaliers of fairness and justice. It may be elevating to believe in “independence,” but it isn’t practical.
And this is just cause to kick Olbermann off the air? And why now? William Kristol wonders if NBC’s parent company, General Electric, isn’t trying to curry favor with the new GOP majority in the House. More likely, as Bryan Preston points out, since Olbermann’s ratings have been tanking, his prickly presence in the newsroom has caused enormous friction with both on-air and behind-the-camera staff. MSNBC President Phil Griffin may have taken the opportunity afforded by Olbermann’s transgression to send the Kos-darling packing, ridding himself of this meddlesome high priest of hyperbole.
Beyond that, Griffin cannot be unaware that his new bosses at Comcast have been shaking up NBC’s top brass, and that Olbermann’s ethics problems don’t reflect well on him. Perhaps this was a move to lance a boil before it suppurated and caused his own departure.
It would have been nice to see Olbermann exit the old-fashioned way: driven from his job after trying the patience of America with his ignorant ranting and because nobody could stand listening to his shtick anymore. But the entire affair smacks of overkill. Jonah Goldberg writes:
Whether or not such rules make sense for actual reporters, such rules are silly for someone like Olbermann. Does anybody, and I mean anybody, suddenly trust Olbermann’s opinion less because of this news? I’m waiting. Does anyone think he’s less biased? More biased? Un-biased?
Second, the larger problem with these kinds of rules is that they do little to prevent media bias and a great deal to hide an important form of evidence of it. Banning liberal journalists from giving money doesn’t prevent them from being liberal, it just gives them a bit more plausibility when they deny it.
With MSNBC not even trying to pretend to be impartial anymore, one wonders about the ethics of a company that overtly promotes a political point of view and then punishes an employee when they act on that bias.






Alan Grayson just faxed MSNBC his resume’
Exactly. What really is going on is Soros is trying to stuff Fox with cast off lefties while finding homes for all the Dems that lost their jobs Tuesday.
First there was Juan “Wronged” Williams. Now Fox will hire Keith “Kicked in the ass” Olbermann to sit in with Sean Hannity. Gee, who’s next? Katie?
Along those lines, I think it would be a major coup for Fox News to hire Olbermann, and wouldn’t be surprised if they did. Contrary to the author’s opinion that “you can always switch over to Fox’s equally tiresome boosting of conservatives and the GOP”, I believe that Fox really does make an attempt to be fair and balanced (especially O’Reilly). It’s just that the other so-called news organizations lean so far left, that by comparison, Fox seems to be right leaning. I know a junior high school student whose civics teacher explained to the class that “Fox is the Republican channel”. Anyone that watches Fox News on a regular basis knows that this is liberal dogma.
“I know a junior high school student whose civics teacher explained to the class that “Fox is the Republican channel”. Anyone that watches Fox News on a regular basis knows that this is liberal dogma.”
And all the other channels are Socialist of American Unite channels children…(but who’s counting, right teach?)
Fox hiring Olbermann – will never happen. Olbermann is too mean spirited and hateful. And people that attribute those qualities to Fox, don’t watch Fox. Not even the “hated” Glenn Beck is hateful. You may or may not like the content of Beck’s shows, but he is not hateful. He does have opinions that the left love to hate, but that does not make Beck hateful, only hated. And Fox, while not a “Republican channel”, they are, I feel, conservative in the political commentary but do balance their commentary with liberal analysts and commentators. Their news reporting, I don’t feel, is slanted in any direction.
Maybe it has something to do with the latest elections. Probably not,though.
Exactly what I was thinking too. Wasn’t the last two years really just Grayson’s audition for “liberal pundit”?
If he hadn’t broken company ethics policy I think the right should stand up for him on principle but apparently he broke the contract. Not shedding any tears. I seriously doubt if he’s the only one at that network.
Yes, he violated his contract, and I think it may have been a serious violation. He gave an unusual amount of airtime to particular candidates in this election cycle, and then it turns out he also supported these specific guys privately.
I don’t think he would have gotten in trouble if he had just given money to the Democratic Party. Also, it might not have bothered MSNBC if he had confined himself to bashing these candidates’ opponents. The difficulty was that giving them so much preferential airtime during an election might actually cause legal problems. There is a fine line between propagandizing for a candidate yourself and giving the candidate a ‘gift in kind’ of free advertising.
Personally I consider this a serious breech
he should be banned from public media. Plus, anyone else that participates in ‘olbermann crap” should be ousted. It is a misuse of the media.
This is great news.I wish he was fired instead of suspended.Olbermann is mentally and emotionally disturbed.Olbermann,Maddow,O’Donnell,Schultz,Matthews,and a new idiot Cenk are all working for the Democratic party as attack dogs against all Republicians and Conservatives.MSNBC is disgraceful and hateful.Don’t waste your time watching MSNBC.
It might have something to do with the fact that this man is in fact certifiably insane and not a journalist at all. He merely make odd liberal comments that he probably gets from Daily KOS or Daily Beast or HuffPo!
I do not watch television very often even though I have most all those channels I just do not turn it on because of all the insanity I see when I do turn it on, if I do it will be the History Channel or Fox News and then only for election results!
Good new that another liberal lost his job, and I hope forever for someone like this goon!
Rick,
Some of us journalists do more than try to pretend to objectivity. In my columns and here I do have a point of view, and make no bones about my conservatism. But in my news writing for my newspapers I try very hard to be as objective as possible.
So do most of the workaday journalists I know.
That’s what makes little worms like Olbermann so odious to us. True impartiality is a fairy tale true enough. But it is an ideal always to be striven for.
That tiny little men like Bathtub Boy have so sullied what to those of us who are true believers is a noble profession is a source of great pain.
I have a hard time summoning up any sympathy for Olbermann. Does MSNBC have ulterior motives for booting the pinhead? Almost certainly. Do I really care what those are? Not really. One less unethical, amoral peabrain in my chosen profession is not something I’m going to lose sleep over, whatever the reason.
Patrick
“…But in my news writing for my newspapers I try very hard to be as objective as possible.
So do most of the workaday journalists I know.”
Are you referring to the “workaday journalists” at CBS in Alaska caught conspiring to invent lies to destroy Joe Miller?
“Workaday journalist” Dan Rather (interestingly, also of CBS) conspiring to destroy George W. Bush with forged documents?
“Workaday journalist” George Stephanopoulos who stepped directly from Chief Propagandist duties in the Clinton White House to ABC “News?”
“Workaday journalist” Chris Matthews of NBC who stated “I want to do everything I can to make this new presidency work. Yeah, that is my job.”
The media has revealed itself to be beyond partisan. They are the enemy.
Sarah nailed it: the media are corrupt bastards.
Your point is well taken, but Patrick obviouusly isn’t referring to these doctrinaire liberals. It’s only the conservatives who make any effort to be “fair and balanced”.
I’m talking two ends of the spectrum here: the heads of MSM news divisions (Rather and Stephanopoulos) and the staff of an insignificant CBS affiliate in Alaska. (Chris Matthews is in his own world, but does speak for NBC.)
The heads of major MSM news divisions should not be considered “doctrinaire” liberals, even by their own standards, yet they are exactly that.
And the staff of an insignificant Alaskan CBS affiliate, who should be Moran’s mythical “workaday journalists,” instead are revealed in their own voices to be conspiratorial shapers of the news, not reporters. How often this happens in America’s “newsrooms” is anybody’s guess. But that it happens at CBS in Alaska gives me an idea that it surely happens in CBS New York and in hundreds of other so-called “news” sources.
The full spectrum of the MSM has proven themselves “doctrinaire” and worse, conspiratorial. From top to bottom they are the exact opposite of “workaday journalists.”
Instead of uncovering conspiracies, they themselves are the conspirators. They are not to be trusted.
First I can’t stand Keith, but he has a right that many have died for to say what he wants within his First Amendment rights. I’d say he has a right, as a private citizen to donate to whom he wants to. I agree that as blatantly left-wing as MSNBC is that it’s ludicrous that they’d do anything at all, especially if he donated to Democrats. I could see them having a problem if he donated to Republicans.
I personally think this is either a publicity stunt to raise his bad ratings, or they have a good excuse to null and void his contract and not have to pay him to sit home until his contract expires.
Time will tell.
Instead of settling for the influence they gave him, Olbermann also decided to contribute financially to his favored without checking with daddy, mommy, and the family Godfather. And he got caught. How dare he go outside the family without approval and use the money they gave him for doing the same thing on MSNBC.
He made them look biased and, which is worse, like they didn’t have control over their won house (how embarrassing, the horror).
These are no-no’s in libland. Contrary to what they would have you think about their tolerance in all things, appearances are important in libland. Keithy will get a hand slap and be told daddy and mommy (and the family Godfather) will not tolerate such behavior in the future.
Hired guns have freedom of speech, but he gets to exercise that freedom outside of their studio. He can stand on the corner and drone on until somebody takes him away for medication. However, I would believe this is more about shaking up a newsroom which has poor ratings. Any chance Fox will hire him to help them with their “fair and balanced” approach?
Fox has plenty of liberal regulars – but they have to be capable of a civil debate. That disqualifies big Keith and his colossal ego.
Who, Pat Cadell?
…and Juan Williams, Lanny Davis, Geraldo, etc., etc., and etc.
Comparing Fox to MSNBC is dishonest, Rick, in that Fox is an anomaly by offering a conservative perspective. Liberal and leftist opinions dominate ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC. Also, much of what those networks broadcast as objective newscasting is severely biased and omits much of the real news because such news would place Dimocrats and the left in bad light. I actually watch MSNBC for comedy relief, as much of their commentary is pathetic to the point it becomes humerous.
Still masturbating?
Too bad your parents didn’t
Who and WHAT is this person, “Bat,” referring to with his comment about a sexual act? And why, Rick, would you leave this up here especially given it’s complete lack of context?
We are supposed to read this guy’s mind? I mean, I take it the gentleman is criticizing one of the previous comments — but for the life of me, I have no idea what that criticism is.
Normally I wouldn’t care, and please don’t call me “Victorian,” but what, am I now allowed to just put up a comment saying “still F**king yourself?” or some such nonsense as that with absolutely no context? Let’s not let PJM get into that kind of business where utterly inane comments like this are allowed… pretty please?
I think BAT is Christine O’Donnell.
In a word, Comcast. They want something left after the Tuesday night ratings disaster. This way they can cut him loose and not have to pay him as much. In an ironic twist, the free market got Olbermann.
You are absolutely right. Comcast is in the business of generating profits unlike the former owner GE who is headed by the execrable Jeffery Immelt who eschewed profits for ideology (wake up GE shareholders you are getting the royal shaft). MSNBC is a disaster as a profit center and I am sure that Comcast is looking for ways to get rid of the likes of Keith Olberdunce without having to honor his contract. I’ll bet Matthews and Maddow are very nervous about their jobs. Let them collect unemployment like the rest of the “unwashed” masses.
Badda Booommmm….Badda Bing! Bullseye! Now Keith…fuggeddaboudit.
“… you can always switch over to Fox’s equally tiresome boosting of conservatives and the GOP.”
Which apparently, the new ownership of NBC considers — for some strange reason — undesirable. Since Comrade Olbermann does not fund the soapbox from which his inane rants fly, he must produce ratings. The idiotic claim that this is a straightforward First Amendment case that principled conservatives should line up behind is preposterous. Comcast’s CEO can get numbers comparable to Olbermann’s with a test pattern; why continue to pay his salary?
I always thought Olby was a closet cross-dresser. Maybe he showed up for work “strapped” and they found that out, and fired him before it became public. But I could be wrong…
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All I can say is that if this woman (oddly named “Keith,” but never mind) wants to live his life as a man, I’m going to back his choice 100%.
I think you got Olberman mixes up with that drug addict, pill popping, pedophile.
Rush Limbaugh.
This editorial is very boring because it pretends to be naive. Of course they fired Olbermann for a variety of reasons, some of which are current, and some of which go back for months.
As far as the publically stated reason, MSNBC merely needed an excuse that would give Olbermann the least grounds to sue them. Also, I imagine that “ethical breach” is one of the things that are specifically listed in his contract as a fireable offence.
Regarding MSNBC personalities, Olbermann and the rest are nothing like reporters, and they never have been. They are merely hate-filled, nearly insane, shouting attack dogs who viciously insult and smear innocent people, because it gets ratings, and because MSNBC does not know what else to do to get similar ratings. They are all just extremely angry and mean versions of Jerry Springer.
This editorial is very boring because it pretends to be naive.
No pretending with Rick Moran.
Careful, Wil; Too much truth in one comment
can reach critical mass, and explode.
The MSM have no morals, let alone principles;
They are all about the money, and will do
whatever attracts an audience for their advertisers.
If, as seems likely, the country runs off the road to the Right,
they will be advocating ‘Hard choices in Hard Times’ in support
of our newly elected authoritarian administration.
Mainstream media coverts to ‘hard right’ for profit? That statement is more humerous than watching Olbermann, Matthews and Maddow dissecting what happend last Tuesday.
Are you suggesting that Jerry Springer is not mean?
“If he hadn’t broken company ethics policy I think the right should stand up for him on principle but apparently he broke the contract.”
Yep. Exactly. There seems to be this weird meme emerging today, with some conservatives deciding they should pretend to be in high dudgeon about this. It’s like this “noble stance” that, frankly, looks kind of forced and funny. I can’t help but thinking it’s being done to stealthily stash away some ammo for later — to be able to whip this out when there’s some scandal on the right and using it against liberals: “Why aren’t you speaking out like I did with Olbermann, hmmmm?”
MSNBC has violated no principle here. It has made a personnel decision that it wished to make, based on a violation of its employment terms. Olbermann is a jerk. Celebrate his demise (however temporary it may be). It’s not like this is some infringement of his rights, for God’s sake. Unlike Juan Williams, nothing about this is colored by government funding, or by ideological disagreements over the semantics of “analysis” and “opinion.”
Acting as if Olbermann has been wronged is tilting at windmills. If he wants to donate to politicians, he can quit this particular job, or wait until they change the policy. It’s really none of our business.
And Patrick Richardson is right, by the way: I know plenty of journalists, and every single one of them is as fair as they can be in their work. Like he says, it IS a noble profession, and impartiality is a solid ideal.
Olby is off because soon msnbc will be sold by g e to comcast, and the current gm of msnbc wants to prove himself… So he can keep the job under new mngmt… Olby has been a loss leader for years and comcast doesnt like losses… Its bottom line, but they needed a good excuse and olby gave em one…
I yield to nobody in toe-tapping delight when any discomfiture is visited upon a being as vicious, pompous and frankly dumb as Messr. Olbermann. (Cut to me dancing with Fred Astaire in the “Put a Shine on Your Shoes” number from “The Bandwagon.”) Having said that however we must also acknowledge that this is a genuine “What the Hell!” moment.
We are expected to believe that MSNBC canned Olbermann for financially contributing (less than ten grand) to Democrats? What about all of the free, nightly in-kind contribution that the Big Empty Suit has been contributing to the Democratic Party ever since he got the gig? Ever since he moved from sports (a happy day for sports) to political commentary Olbermann has used his eminence to equate conservatives and Republicans with murderers, Nazis, racists, rapists, racists, facists, racists and racists. He was also instrumental in coming up with the truly loathsome “tea-bagging” metaphor when the Tea Party movement emerged. Like most of America, I didn’t know what “tea-bagging” was but eventually was strangely impressed by Olbermann’s instantaneous and firm grasp of the term. (Sorry!)
This was a business decision made by panicky, every-man-for-himself managers at MSNBC who suddenly realize that COMCAST isn’t in the business of low ratings or losing money. No need to worry about Keith though. Whoever hired Van Jones probably has a spot waiting for him.
I’m guessing that he knew the rules and chose to ignore them. Just as he chose to fly in the face of management and disparage his own boss, whom I’m sure still remembers the insult. If we’ve learned anything it’s that Liberals are vindictive and never forget. And with ratings in the toilet and Olby becoming an increasingly out-of-control loose canon, it was time to cut him loose.
If this were an issue similar to the firing of Juan Williams, I would swallow my disgust for the man and say MSNBC had dealt unfairly. However, since it was only the digging of Politico that brought the issue to attention of Olbermann’s employer, then this is a non-issue.
MsNBC is MSFT money; Oby boy must have said something on Tusday night that made Melinda upset. Just a suggestion, never watch the moron.
I live in the Puget Sound region and the Gates pack is as hard left as Obongo.
I foolishly started reading this piece via a link from instapundit without checking the author. A few paragraphs in, I began to wonder who was writing this bilge. Next time, I’ll check the author first – because I’ve made a practice of avoiding this Frum wannabe.
#9 — Bingo.
Fox is biased. MSNBC is slanted, and makes no bones about it.
Fox makes money. MSNBC hemorrhages the stuff.
The problem with a leftoid slant nowadays is that it’s a ratings disaster — look at Air America. Righties won’t pay for it — and yes, sitting through the Depends® commercials are a form of payment. Lefties don’t have to pay for it; they can get it, free, from any number of places. There is no business plan there, and nobody at Comcast is going to tolerate that.
A leftoid equivalent of Fox, that played actual news fairly straight and confined its overt bias to the opinion pieces, might well make money — but you couldn’t fit Keith Olberman into that structure with a pile-driver.
Regards,
Ric
Memo to Vivian Schiller:
After the election letdown, the Left needs a principled demonstration of strength and commitment.
You took heat for firing Juan Williams from NPR. It’s time to show everybody who’s boss.
Do you have the brass to hire Olbermann as Williams’ replacement?
Come onnnn…you know you want to!
Couldn’t happen to a better guy, Keith is a Oberdouche
I don’t think it has much to do with ratings. While low, they were probably higher than anything else on that network, and about the only reason people ever paid attention to it. Now they are just going to slip into obscurity altogether…
Yeah – get the box of hankies cuz I’m cryin’ me a river for this POS. Whatever it takes. What are we supposed to do? Contemplate the UNFAIRNESS of it all? He should have been kicked in his big white flabby arse a long time ago and given the heave-ho. It’s hysterical that they would suspend him for this???? and not the fact that he is a flaming neon-lit phosphorescent incandescent A-HOLE ?
Maybe the execs watched some of the Tuesday night coverage. I flipped over there a few times – it was beyond bias. Actual DNC Headquarters footage would have been less tilted. All pretense of reporting was gone. I’m pretty jaded and I was shocked.
Hey people–understand this. Its not doing the sin, its being exposed for it without having sufficient plausible deniability.
Yep, it’s like the term “screwing the pooch”, which comes to us courtesy of the novel “The Right Stuff”. It OK to screw the pooch … as long as you don’t get caught. Olby got caught.
I would place a real money bet that this ‘outrage’ is just cover for something far more fire-worthy, and soon we will find out that Olbermann did something ( perhaps a la’ Letterman) that is a real risk to the bottom line. Saying as much, however, would be confessing and thus bring the lawyers that much closer. Better to trump something up and cover all asses… ooops… I mean bases.
Mr. Moran:
“And this is just cause to kick Olbermann off the air?”
You need a “reason”? How about…”mercy”? “Public decency”? “Improving their image?”, and the always-popular: “He’s an effin’ ass-hole!”
“And why now?”
Because “Purge a Liberal” season just opened. And let’s be honest here, among the wild moonbat herd, Queef Olbermann is a sixteen-point “Boone and Crockett” buck.
His stuffed and mounted head will make a FINE trophy in someone’s den.
“With MSNBC not even trying to pretend to be impartial anymore, one wonders about the ethics of a company that overtly promotes a political point of view and then punishes an employee when they act on that bias.”
I think that you need to consult with your therapist about upping your medication levels.
I am certain that he will be alarmed that you are apparently suffering from the delusion that MSNBC ever was even remotely within hailing distance of “impartial”.
The bilge pump is working! LOL!
“Impartial” . . . is that anything like “fair and balanced?” And if it is, who is?
“He oozes a sneering, self-righteous superiority that only liberals who feel similarly blessed with outsized notions of transcendence can stomach.”
I have to say this may be the best single sentence ever written about the Olbermann phenomenon. I have to say I am not familiar with your writing, Mr. Moran, but I will be looking forward to reading you in the future. Best.
Patrick1 is absolutely right. Comcast is culling through their property and they will leave no stone unturned. Mr. O and his show was low hanging fruit and it made market sense to dump him quickly. Comcast executive’s needed a reason to dump him and they found a reason to hang him.
The free market does work in mysterious ways.
The fact MSNBC has an ethics policy is beyond shocking.
Every broadcast is an in-kind donation to the Democrats.
So, basically youre saying:
The abrasive arrogant workplace asshole, that nobody in the LUNCHROOM can even stand, is driving away customers with his shitty selling technique, costing the company untold amounts of revenue, AND a loss of reputation in the marketplace…
He then gets CAUGHT violating explicit company POLICY which will FURTHER discredit the company even AFTER he’s gone, and youre saying he shouldnt get FIRED?
HAVE YOU EVER HAD A JOB BEFORE?!?
Seriously?
The men who run MSNBC are influential. My view is that Olberman was banging one of their boy friends and he retaliated. Or, maybe, he was banging one of their goats or, whatever.
To me, it is unimaginable that thousands of individuals and hundreds or organization are not protesting the use of the words “journalist” and “Olberman” in the same sentence. We are approaching the point where “journalist” and “prostitute” are synonyms.
Approaching?
“We are approaching the point where “journalist” and “prostitute” are synonyms.”
I am not ashamed to admit that I have patronized prostitutes.
Are you ashamed to admit being one?
Your mother wasn’t.
What is it with conservative men attacking women? Maybe you’d like to stomp on my mother’s neck. Might take your mind off that Pluto in your pants.
I don’t know about you, but I am an “at will” employee. I can be terminated without cause at any time. Should I choose to break a published company policy, I would be fired. Are some workplace rules silly? Yes. Does that mean you can ignore them? No. Next case.
It is a bit weird. I can’t imagine fox firing somebody for donating to political interests they were covering.
That would depend on their policy. If Fox News has a provision in their boilerplate employment contract that prohibits their pundits from giving political donations, then their pundits could (and should) be fired for doing so. It doesn’t appear that Fox News has that policy.
If someone doesn’t want to be restricted in their political donations, then they shouldn’t sign an employment contract that contains that restriction.
Conservatives should support MSNBC in this (not oppose it, as Moran suggests), because respecting private contracts (supporting a company and an individual’s right to make them and enforce them) is a tenet of Conservatism.
It doesn’t matter if there were ALSO other reasons to fire Olbermann and MSNBC used this as an excuse. If MSNBC does have this policy, and Olbermann didn’t have this portion struck from his employment contract, then they were within their rights to can him. End of story. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Olberman gets canned?
W.G.A.S.?
‘We are approaching the point where “journalist” and “prostitute” are synonyms.’
If I was a prostitute, I’d be hella pissed.
At least now David Vitter can claim he went down to Bourbon Street to get diapered by a journalist.
After Tuesday night that felt that had to trim some of their more egregious violators to appease the lynch mob that was coming for them, Olbermann is an easy choice. It’s not a raw deal. It’s just desserts.
Feeling sorry for him? Then Watch this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/02/rick-sanchez-firing-mocke_n_748044.html
Because HE is such an empathetic person.
“Feeling sorry for him?”
Are you kidding?
If Olbermann got run over by a bus, all I’d be worried about is tire damage.
Good way to grease a bus though.
What about Chrissy Matthews? His tingle up his leg turned to tinkle down his leg on election night. Did you see him ranting at Michelle Bachman. Would have done Olby proud, but then she smoked him. The whole MSNBC crowd are morons. And that’s being kind and generous. Olby is Class A in the moron department. Good riddance.
Smoked him? She was smoking something, but it wasn’t Matthews. He made her look like the botoxian transvestite she is. Matthews asked her some simple straightforward questions and she thought he said, “Tell me all your bland, vague disingenuous intentions.”
She got what she deserved. And tea baggers and other Republicans can expect to get a lot more of it. I hear Bachmann spends $200 million a day on makeup and KY. I read it in the Sri Lankan Post Gazette.
aww, someone got a touch of sore loser, now, has he?
Not to worry, it will go away in a millenium or so, maybe.
“I hear Bachmann spends $200 million a day on makeup and KY.”
Well, I would not have guessed that, but the good folks of Kentucky are no doubt glad for the boost to their state’s economy.
The main thing is that Olby embarrassed Griffin. Remember that Griffin, the top network exec, made a big deal out of News Corp’s donations and Fox’s having on O’Donnell and a lot of other conservative candidates in the elections run-up. Johnny Dollar blew that apart rather handily: http://johnnydollar.us/files/101024challenge.php
So, Griffin, of whom Keith has said, he “thinks he’s my boss,” was put in a pretty untenable situation when it became public knowledge that Olby had made those donations against policy.
Mind you, nobody at NBC or MSNBC was talking about donations made to candidates or organizations by parent company GE. You’ve talked about Comcast here, at least. Malkin’s got a good piece on that.
I’m not saying that the motivations may not be multiple. I’m just saying that the thoughtless way that he put the guy who turns out to be his boss after all is the proximate cause.
Not too long ago I let it slip where NSNBC could find out about it, that I would never watch their channel so long as Keith Olbermann was drawing a paycheck from them.
They must really want me to watch. Unfortunately I’ve had to tell them that a mere suspension without pay won’t cut it. And besides, they still have Rachel Maddow and Tingly-Legs.
Kief is not a journalist. NBC pretends to have an ethics code. The fool put his money where his mouth is. NBC is too chicken—- to give the real reason. Which means speculation rules and spoils NBC’s little game. Of course I didn’t read the article, it’s by Rick Moran.
As is typical with this writer – this piece misses the simple fundamental point which is:
What does Olbermann’s contract say on this issue? If contributing to any political campaign is prohibited in the verbiage of his contract with MSNBC and Olbermann did it anyway, then guess who is responsible?
Olbermann.
The simple fact that MSNBC decided to execute that particular section of their contract is nobody else’s business. Olbermann knew (or should have known) when he wrote the checks that he was handing the powers that be the sword to sever their business relationship because of his dismal ratings. So be it.
I think it is particularly fitting since Mr. Olbermann, apparently, supports “representatives” who do not believe it is their business to read the legislation that they propose.
It’s the CONTRACT stupid! The ability to make contracts is fundamental to a free market “Capitalist” economy.
Furthermore, the contract is the central theme of the Federal Constitution.
From Webster’s 1828 American Dictionary: FED’ERAL, a. [from L. faedus, a league, allied perhaps to Eng. wed. L. vas, vadis, vador, vadimonium. See Heb. to pledge.]
1. Pertaining to a league or contract; derived from an agreement or covenant between parties, particularly between nations.
The Romans, contrary to federal right, compelled them to part with Sardinia.
2. Consisting in a compact between parties, particularly and chiefly between states or nations; founded on alliance by contract or mutual agreement; as a federal government, such as that of the United States.
3. Friendly to the constitution of the United States. [See the Noun.]
These are all fundamental things that Mr. Moran, apparently, does not comprehend.
BTW – The simple fact that Olbermann was suspended “without pay” tells me that the MSNBC exec thinks that he is standing on very firm legal ground
“It’s the CONTRACT stupid! The ability to make contracts is fundamental to a free market ‘Capitalist’ economy.”
Hear! Hear!
Liberals always need a victim and someone to blame. To think that they fired Olberman because HE made them look biased is hysterical to me. The man is a bona fide idiot for sure. But come on, Maddow, Olberman, Matthews giving election commentary on 11/2? I though I would die laughing
Keith has his right to blather idiotically standing in front of Prometheus. He doesn’t have any right to do it on the air. Free speech applies to government intervention, not a private company. Olbermann has a contract and is expected to adhere to the specifications of the contract he signed and agreed to. They can fire him for any d*mn reason they want, and if his contributing to some dopey pols is the reason, however flimsy it may be perceived to be, this is still a free country and NBC can employ anyone they like or don’t like. Let him sue for unlawful dismissal. It has no “chilling effect” on free speech. It was more of a public service.
Olbermann is detestable and a buffoon, but I don’t think he should have been taken off the air. He served a useful purpose by demonstrating how nutty the Left really is.
Then again, this could be an opportunity for MSNBC to show how much they value diversity – by hiring an African American to host one of their opinion shows. And if they really want to show how much they value diversity, the could hire a conservative African American…
Who is this guy you are talking about? and why?
“a move to lance a boil” . . .
We have a winner, folks, because there is no better analogy!
“Special” Ed Shultz should be next to find his paperweight and desk set in a box in the lobby after coming back from lunch.
I think MSNBC is trying to save itself, now that the powers that be there have been smacked in the face by reality (the midterm election). Olbermann’s political contribution was just the excuse for getting rid of him, but doing it that way smacks of the usual cowardice.
2. Jack
Not shedding any tears.
4. Steve DeMarcus
Good new that another liberal lost his job, and I hope forever for someone like this goon!
5. Patrick Richardson
One less unethical, amoral peabrain in my chosen profession is not something I’m going to lose sleep over, whatever the reason.
10. jdog
I always thought Olby was a closet cross-dresser. Maybe he showed up for work “strapped” and they found that out, and fired him before it became public.
11. Wil
Olbermann and the rest are nothing like reporters, and they never have been. They are merely hate-filled, nearly insane, shouting attack dogs who viciously insult and smear innocent people, because it gets ratings,
20. Clobber9
Couldn’t happen to a better guy, Keith is a Oberdouche
22. scythe
Yeah – get the box of hankies cuz I’m cryin’ me a river for this POS.
25. Annie B
I would place a real money bet that this ‘outrage’ is just cover for something far more fire-worthy
26. Bilgeman
You need a “reason”? How about…”mercy”? “Public decency”? “Improving their image?”, and the always-popular: “He’s an effin’ ass-hole!”
Dave Surls
If Olbermann got run over by a bus, all I’d be worried about is tire damage.
And you wonder why we hold you people in such low regard. It’s because you hold yourselves in such low regard. Don’t ask me, ask Juan Williams.
And yet these posts were much kinder and compassionate than you ever heard out of Olberman’s mouth.
“And you wonder why we hold you people in such low regard.”
Nah, it’s not worth wastng time wondering about that.
You don’t waste time worrying about what cockroaches think about, you just eradicate them.
Same thing for lefties.
Born Senseless the Liar goes “you people” and suddenly becomes the epitome of Political Correctness.
The constant identifying refrain. “You People”. Used to express the Cesspool Experience to those who will not mire themselves in raw sewage. Must be lonely. Hence Persons Galore.
You like this, don’t you…people?
49. Your Sensei
And you wonder why we hold you people in such low regard.
November 6, 2010 – 7:20 am
Wow Really
It’s stunning how uninformed, arbitrary and gullible you people are.
October 20, 2010 – 4:14 pm
Betty Knows
You people are precisely what’s wrong with this country.
Carl
I swear, you people are beyond help.
August 14, 2010 – 12:39 pm
Praetorian
But the Constitution is a bit inconvenient for you people right?
July 29, 2010 – 6:18 pm
Praetorian
It’s gonna be a rough eight-years for you people (i.e. fascists).
July 3, 2010 – 8:46 pm
119. miriam rove
you people are mind bugling…
June 22, 2010 – 2:05 pm
There are so many more. Archives are wonderful truth tellers.
Indeed, the personalities come and go, but song remains the same. An inability to come to terms with its essence being a lie.
The Funhouse Mirror has been warping out Person Galore Cesspool offerings at quite a rate lately. This indicates frustration. And every one of the tidbits contains a lie at its core. The question has never been about it’s so-called political viewpoints or attempts at admonishing those who do not agree with it’s Cesspoolview, but the need to present itself as being so much more, so much more than it could ever be without the constant lie that it puts forth. Who’ll it be next?
Born Senseless illustrates that Modern Liberal trait of being a liar, knowing it, and then using that as a source of self-love.
Does the self censoring necessary to post damage your self esteem? Poor thing.
11. sleazits
BTW, Ron, you apparently didn’t get the memo. You’re supposed to ban my posts. I’m down to about 1 in 100 seeing the light of day.
April 21, 2010 – 7:04 am
Van Jones drop by lately? Where is Kyber? Where is Liar Levine? The Kick Me sign riveted to your ass is due for a tune up. A little bit of spray paint over a rusted out husk will do fine in the Cesspool. The many Persons Galore will all applaud in unison as Mr. President awards his Hollow Nobel Peace prize to you as compensation for you being his Whipping Thing.
The Tingler has burned you big time and is now in the process of ripping you off once again. Watch Mr. President self preserve, feeding on the Born Senseless carcass support.
Interesting how Modern Liberals are so easily used, and then discarded. And they like it.
This is not a First Amendment issue. Olbermann works for a private company. However, I am on crazy Keith’s side on this. It is an act of hyprocracy to suspend/fire him. MSNBC is one 24 hour informercial for the Democratic Party so why are they disciplining Olbermann? If they decided to fire him for ratings reasons they could have just bought out his contract. I think the real reason is that management is so out of touch with reality that they are unaware of how they are perceived by the viewing public.
“MSNBC is one 24 hour informercial for the Democratic Party so why are they disciplining Olbermann?”
All levity aside, you DO have a point.
Would it be a salve on your anxiety if MSNBC suspended all the rest of their cast?
Because I’m okay with that.
As far as it goes, I’d opine that as long as Queef was abkle to get folks to glue their eyeballs to the screen so that network could pump commercials into their brainstem, he could pretty much do what he pleased.
But after the ratings debacle of their election coverage, added to their already tanking ratings overall, methinks the corporate guys finally figured out that “ranting honkie moonbat” is an act that won’t even play in the Borscht Belt anymore…so over the side with a link from the anchor chain tied to his neck goes Olberman.
Truly, does one think had the DPUSA maintained control of the House that Dobermann would be gone? Au contraire. MSNBC is, first and foremost, a business seeking to generate income by selling advertising. Dobermann may be a thoroughly despicable human being, difficult to get along with, a prima dona “star”, but this is a bloke who couldn’t get a second date with the same woman. That tells me all I need to know about this John Thomas.
MSNBC took the opening Dobermann served up to put this dog down. Whether he stays down is quite another question entirely. Dobermann’s dismissal may be a balloon flight, and just as temporary. But, if this is the real deal, I hope FOX hires him just as Newscorp hired Juan Williams. Dobermann would great in the flashy uniform of a men’s room attendant. “Would you like to try this cologne, sir?”
looks to me like the winds of change are just starting to blow off the low hanging fruits.
we need to keep it blowing and pick up the velocity if we are to detach the higher hanging,
more plump specimens.
bring anyone to mind?
MSNBC, Ethics, and Keith Olbermann?
It takes a hell of a lot for MSNBC, the cable news station of NBC established in partnership with Microsoft, to suspend someone for violating its ethics policy. It’s a challenge to try to determine whether MSNBC, dubbed PMSNBC by Rush Limbaugh, has any ethics at all considering its programming and commentators.
As the left’s response to Fox News, MSNBC has been beyond lame. As the left’s entry into the ethics sweepstakes, MSNBC finished as an also-ran.
However, someone has been suspended, indefinitely and without pay, for violating that vague policy. None other than Keith Olbermann, former sports maven and now former political pundit in MSNBC’s 8 pm slot, the man who proved that one host was able to sink a cable network almost single-handedly, has, possibly, been handed his pink slip.
Actually, that’s hyperbolic since Olbermann had a lot of help in that regard from such people as the raving, leftist lesbian, Rachel Maddow. As of today, though, Rachel is still in and Keith’s “Countdown with Keith Olbermann” is being counted out. It remains to be seen if Maddow survives longer than MSNBC. . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=2521)
“As of today, though, Rachel is still in and Keith’s “Countdown with Keith Olbermann” is being counted out.”
Of course HE’s out…do you think they’d get rid a lesbian?
Poor, poor, Queef…the occupational curse of being born with white skin and male genitalia finally came around sat upon his head.
Spoken like a real man’s man. Or a man’s boy. Or a boy’s man. Or a boy’s boy. Im not sure which one it is, but this much is clear, you’re flamingly guy. Did I ever mention that you sound like a guy who spent 20 years with seamen?
And you sound like a guy who really wishes that he had…
Give a man enough rope and he’ll hang himself.
Give a man enough hang and he’ll rope himself.
Just a Rahm thought, MSNBC gives KO a Time Out to try to rev-up ratings. You know get his supporters rioting in the street? If there is enough excitement they put him back on the air. Of course that requires thinking outside the tank.
On their 2003 album Say You Will, Fleetwood Mac recorded a song called “Murrow Turning Over in His Grave”, referring to him as an icon of responsible journalism.
The objective of journalism is to inform, not influence. Where can you find that anymore, especially in televised news?
I tend to watch Fox News for stories that generally get ignored by the other networks, the DOJ/NBPP controversy for instance. I learned about PJM when Megyn Kelly interviewed J. Christian Adams. I prefer Fox to other networks when it comes to national and international news but is it “just the facts, mam”? No.
At least when the folks at Fox News criticize the left, they do it without the seething hatred Olbermann has demonstrated.
There’s a learn at home televised program on the educational channel called Logic and Critical Thinking. The instructor uses printed and televised journalism as examples of how language is used to manipulate the public toward an opinion. Some are quite subtle, some are not.
I can’t help but wonder what Edward R. Murrow would have to say about journalism were he alive today.
It’s hard to feel sorry for Keith. He is such an incendiary personality. Though there are many reasons to want him gone, I believe in the bottom line. Money. He made an awful lot of money for a show with low ratings.
Cry all the crocodile tears you want over Olbermann being fired for doing what everyone else is doing. Personally, the thrill of the tingle his compatriot Chris Matthews felt running up his leg over Obama is the same feeling I had when I heard the news. I have no sympathy for the vilest, nastiest, and unprincipled excuse for a political commentator I have ever been exposed to. The only person I think is worse is the FORMER congressman from Florida, Grayson. And, some of you may be correct without intending to be so. Grayson just may be the one to replace the excreable Olbermann.
Maybe he can go to his Manhattan home and cry on mommie’s shoulder about how bad the mean ol’ network and conservatives, and Republicans, and and and and and, everybody else treated him. No one likes me momma!!! I did nufin to make them mad at me.
Think Eugene Robinson will take his calls now?
Here’s a thought: Could it be that MSNBC simply doesn’t want to give Olbermann a platform to blast their viewers? He’s always raged on Republicans and conservatives, but he’s got to be particularly ticced off at the independents who’ve deserted the liberal cause and those ‘unserious’ liberals who stayed home for this election, and how would you better define MSNBC’s audience than “unserious liberals”? Could it be that MSNBC has decided their ratings are low enough without Olbermann turning the raging, over-the-top bull goose loonie routine directly on their viewers?
58. Swen Swenson
“…….Could it be that MSNBC has decided their ratings are low enough without Olbermann turning the raging, over-the-top bull goose loonie routine directly on all FORTY SEVEN OF their viewers?”
There, fixed it for you. You’re welcome.
“Today, even little children know that MSNBC has a strong, pronounced liberal Democratic bias and a demonstrated animus against conservative Republicans. This is not a secret nor is it necessarily bad.”
Wrong on both counts, most unfortunately. I know people who “know” all kinds of things that never happened. And it’s influenced the way they vote.
Rachel Maddow probably told the truth when she said about MSNBC “we are not a political organization.”
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/11/hilarious-rachel-maddow-defends-msnbc-we-are-not-a-political-operation-video/
She probably thinks that telling outright lies so that people will properly interpret the news is the norm. For pundits, that is ok to some extent. That is, where the lie is actually mistaken opinion instead of unchecked or made-up fact.
Reporters are supposed to stick to the facts, and at least attempt to avoid adding or subtracting imaginative elements to the story. And, news organizations are supposed to distinguish between opinion articles and factual articles.
OMG. A woman who’s a republican.
You ever hear of the Lilly Ledbetter act.
I’m willing to bet you haven’t.
Otherwise you would know why no woman should ever vote republican.
“You ever hear of the Lilly Ledbetter act.”
Sure have. Moves the United States one step closer to full-blown communism. Hopefully, it will be repealed, along with other communistic laws before we have to have a blood drenched revolution against the tyrannical rule of the Slaveowner/Neo-Marxist Party (aka the Democrats).
Although, it might be kind of fun to hit the NOW with a barrage of Title VII sexual discrimination lawsuits before we repeal that particular abomination of a law.
I suspect he went nuts the day after election and became a pest at head quarters. Lets not forget the bizarre behavior of the entire MSNBC team on election night. While no one watched except a few Kosters and stoners, choice moments were replayed everywhere and are garnering big hits on conservative blogs. It is also the talk of media blogs everywhere. And let me tell you not one has a kind word to say about MSNBC. There is even talk of collapse. Everyone except the election night 5 thinks the cable station jumped the shark. I don’t know what audience management targeted when it put these nuts together, but anyone with an job or a serious perspective on life was over at Fox, while the older folks and more reasonable liberals went to CNN. Olbermann has never been easy to work with. He has had his own work boycotts, has come close to revealing bizarre personal conduct, is impossible to produce or direct, and there have been hints of scandal in and out of work. I suspect he did not take the post-election criticism well. He should have booked a plane to India like his hero.
“Olbermann has never been easy to work with.”
Give me a cattle prod and I’ll work with him all day long.
Happily.
“you can always switch over to Fox’s equally tiresome boosting of conservatives and the GOP.”
As a somewhat impartial observer – I believe there is an important difference. Fox presents a great deal more logic, rational argument and facts to bolster their support of what turns out to be primarily conservative ideas. MSNBC and others trade primarily in emotion and self-righteousness and instead of offering technical discussions seem happy just to position anyone who opposes their views in a variety of unflattering ways.
Believe it or not there are good arguments against things like Keynesian stimulus, high taxes, over-regulation, etc. and a lot of evidence that government cannot be trusted with more than a few essential tasks. Fox and other conservative organizations make such arguments while liberal organizations seem more like system antibodies that watch and attack when something challenges their ideology.
There is a useful test for meaningfulness when listening to any discussion or debate: Take the exact opposite of a person’s statement and then ask – is it nonsensical? – or does it make a potentially valid point also? You will find that most politicians and liberal media pundits deliver only statements (“we should not let people starve”) that in reverse (“we should let people starve”) are absurd.
On the other hand to say that “Obamacare will increase wait times for critical care because it removes any cost to the consumers while putting price controls on the providers” can be (and should be) dissected and examined by anyone proposing to inform and educate the population.
Good point, the MSNBC ethics model apparently is its OK to tout a brothel and accept it’s services, provided you don’t donate to any of the girls.
You’re right, at least the Republicans paid for their night of lesbian bondage fetishism. of course, they paid for it with your money. Hope you’re OK with that.
I miss Olberman on the air, I followed him since Sportscenter days. How can Fox continue to get away with their BS?
What has happened to Keith since this exit?
Did anyone else see the ‘bubble’ skit on Bill Maher’s HBO show with Olberman? Classic!