Comments on: Final Face-Off: Clinton, Obama Spar in Ohio http://pjmedia.com/blog/ohio_debate/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:47:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: independant http://pjmedia.com/blog/ohio_debate/#comment-126175 independant Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:41:32 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-face-off-clinton-obama-spar-in-ohio/#comment-126175 Some good points. This guy here made some good points on what both candidates should do. <a href="http://politcsandworldwidenews.blogspot.com/2008/10/what-mccain-needs-to-do-to-win.html#links" rel="nofollow">The Matter at Hand: What McCain and Obama need to do to win...</a> Some good points. This guy here made some good points on what both candidates should do.

The Matter at Hand: What McCain and Obama need to do to win…

]]> By: Fat Jolly Penguin http://pjmedia.com/blog/ohio_debate/#comment-24052 Fat Jolly Penguin Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:28:24 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-face-off-clinton-obama-spar-in-ohio/#comment-24052 It wasn't a debate -- it was a polite little press conference in which Hillary proved to us all yet again just how shrill she can be, and Obama proved just how dangerous his "insubstantial" socialist rhetoric really is. Debating over whose healthcare plan is more mandatory? How did politics come to this? The Chinese food analogy is a good one, but I'd like to add one thing to it. In addition to us eating the astoundingly insubstantial fare, Obama and Hillary weren't so much debating as throwing the food at each other. Maybe that's why they put so much on the table to begin with. It wasn’t a debate — it was a polite little press conference in which Hillary proved to us all yet again just how shrill she can be, and Obama proved just how dangerous his “insubstantial” socialist rhetoric really is. Debating over whose healthcare plan is more mandatory? How did politics come to this?

The Chinese food analogy is a good one, but I’d like to add one thing to it. In addition to us eating the astoundingly insubstantial fare, Obama and Hillary weren’t so much debating as throwing the food at each other. Maybe that’s why they put so much on the table to begin with.

]]> By: Fred Dickey http://pjmedia.com/blog/ohio_debate/#comment-24051 Fred Dickey Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:48:56 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-face-off-clinton-obama-spar-in-ohio/#comment-24051 Pardon me: "harridan." But I wiil take the opportunity to add harpy. Pardon me: “harridan.” But I wiil take the opportunity to add harpy.

]]> By: Fred Dickey http://pjmedia.com/blog/ohio_debate/#comment-24050 Fred Dickey Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:45:15 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-face-off-clinton-obama-spar-in-ohio/#comment-24050 Every commentator overlooks the fact that Hillary came across as a haridan, a common scold. But I don't think the viewers did. Every commentator overlooks the fact that Hillary came across as a haridan, a common scold. But I don’t think the viewers did.

]]> By: Marc http://pjmedia.com/blog/ohio_debate/#comment-24049 Marc Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:11:48 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-face-off-clinton-obama-spar-in-ohio/#comment-24049 Coming from a conservative's perspective, I'd say Obama was better... at not answering the question. HRC was unlikable. Was she looking at the camera, or the audience? I am still in awe of how 90 minutes flew by without me knowing more about the true thoughts of these candidates. As for Obama or HRC "tearing McCain up", I'd say your drunkblog has clouded your judgment. You are not a senator for as long as McCain has been without having strong debating skills. Time will tell. Coming from a conservative’s perspective, I’d say Obama was better… at not answering the question. HRC was unlikable. Was she looking at the camera, or the audience? I am still in awe of how 90 minutes flew by without me knowing more about the true thoughts of these candidates. As for Obama or HRC “tearing McCain up”, I’d say your drunkblog has clouded your judgment. You are not a senator for as long as McCain has been without having strong debating skills. Time will tell.

]]> By: Paul B http://pjmedia.com/blog/ohio_debate/#comment-24048 Paul B Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:41:02 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-face-off-clinton-obama-spar-in-ohio/#comment-24048 "But the name left virtually unmentioned was John McCain. One of these two potential nominees will almost certainly be squaring off against McCain next fall. Was their failure to frame themselves against him a sign of confidence or weakness?" I don't have a transcript in front of me, but I know Obama mentioned McCain during the Iraq portion of the debate and I believe Hillary mentioned him at some point as well. I remember thinking in the case of Obama how smart it was of him to go after McCain, it made him look like the nominee and Hillary's attacks seem small. “But the name left virtually unmentioned was John McCain. One of these two potential nominees will almost certainly be squaring off against McCain next fall. Was their failure to frame themselves against him a sign of confidence or weakness?”

I don’t have a transcript in front of me, but I know Obama mentioned McCain during the Iraq portion of the debate and I believe Hillary mentioned him at some point as well. I remember thinking in the case of Obama how smart it was of him to go after McCain, it made him look like the nominee and Hillary’s attacks seem small.

]]> By: Bacchus http://pjmedia.com/blog/ohio_debate/#comment-24047 Bacchus Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:34:19 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-face-off-clinton-obama-spar-in-ohio/#comment-24047 Who won? Hillary's negatives. Who won? Hillary’s negatives.

]]> By: Edmund Jenks (MAXINE) http://pjmedia.com/blog/ohio_debate/#comment-24046 Edmund Jenks (MAXINE) Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:10:17 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-face-off-clinton-obama-spar-in-ohio/#comment-24046 In order for the debate to be deemed a Chinese food debate ... there would first have to be some food ... any food. No entitlements discussion (where was Social Security and Medi-Care?), no real immigration discussion, no discussion on the fact that there are six Supreme Court justices past the age of 68. Did anyone notice Barack Obama's answer on how he would handle a hypothetical, but plausible situation where Russia's Vladimir Putin builds up his armies and decides to station them in Serbia ... <i>"As president, what would you do?"</i>, queried Tim Russert. <i>"Well, first, I would contact the international community, many of whom have recognized Kosovo ... "</i> When do the citizens of the United States get to hear a debate, and vote for the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?! I do not know about the rest of you all here, who read Pajamas Media, but we, at MAXINE, are tired of watching discussions between politicians & potential leaders who believe they are doing the best job they can at running for Student Body President. On this issue alone (Russia's build-up), the sound of <b>"President John McCain"</b> is beginning to have a nice ring to it! In order for the debate to be deemed a Chinese food debate … there would first have to be some food … any food.

No entitlements discussion (where was Social Security and Medi-Care?), no real immigration discussion, no discussion on the fact that there are six Supreme Court justices past the age of 68.

Did anyone notice Barack Obama’s answer on how he would handle a hypothetical, but plausible situation where Russia’s Vladimir Putin builds up his armies and decides to station them in Serbia … “As president, what would you do?”, queried Tim Russert.

“Well, first, I would contact the international community, many of whom have recognized Kosovo … “

When do the citizens of the United States get to hear a debate, and vote for the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?! I do not know about the rest of you all here, who read Pajamas Media, but we, at MAXINE, are tired of watching discussions between politicians & potential leaders who believe they are doing the best job they can at running for Student Body President.

On this issue alone (Russia’s build-up), the sound of “President John McCain” is beginning to have a nice ring to it!

]]> By: mw http://pjmedia.com/blog/ohio_debate/#comment-24045 mw Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:52:28 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-face-off-clinton-obama-spar-in-ohio/#comment-24045 <blockquote><i>"Twin losses in Texas and Ohio next week might just put her out of her misery - but don't count on it. The Clinton we saw tonight might not have fought well, but she certainly showed that, at long last, she's willing to fight."</i> - VP</blockquote> If she loses either one it is over. She should take Ohio. So it's all about Texas. If she takes Texas and Ohio, she'll take Pennsylvania. If she finishes with all three, the super delegates will give her the nomination regardless of the pledged delegate count. The price for the nomination, will be to make Obama VP. With that ticket Dems win in a landslide, because either can chew up and spit out McCain on TV. Think Kennedy vs. Nixon. Great drunkblog tonight.

“Twin losses in Texas and Ohio next week might just put her out of her misery – but don’t count on it. The Clinton we saw tonight might not have fought well, but she certainly showed that, at long last, she’s willing to fight.” – VP

If she loses either one it is over. She should take Ohio. So it’s all about Texas. If she takes Texas and Ohio, she’ll take Pennsylvania. If she finishes with all three, the super delegates will give her the nomination regardless of the pledged delegate count. The price for the nomination, will be to make Obama VP. With that ticket Dems win in a landslide, because either can chew up and spit out McCain on TV. Think Kennedy vs. Nixon.

Great drunkblog tonight.

]]> By: mixxedup http://pjmedia.com/blog/ohio_debate/#comment-24044 mixxedup Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:58:38 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-face-off-clinton-obama-spar-in-ohio/#comment-24044 Obama did look "Presidential" though. I thought he did well to push back against her attack stance. But, the debate was a downer. I am not sure she should be "fighting" with Obama. I think she needs to fight with herself and her crappy campaign people. Some soul searching may be in order. I hate the bipolar persona she was displaying. Obama did look “Presidential” though. I thought he did well to push back against her attack stance. But, the debate was a downer.

I am not sure she should be “fighting” with Obama. I think she needs to fight with herself and her crappy campaign people. Some soul searching may be in order. I hate the bipolar persona she was displaying.

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