Ohio Post-Mortem: Glitz, Gimmicks, Sleight-of-Hand, and Witnessing Fraud
Of course we could not prove that he had not pressed the screen to vote for Obama. We cancelled the ballot and he voted again without incident. I reported the problem immediately to the Wayne County Board of Elections (BOE). It was suggested that the voter’s sleeve may have been interfering with the touchscreen, causing him to inadvertently vote for candidates he wasn’t intending to vote for. I was told by the elections official that they “were running into that with a lot of male voters.”
Then a second voter reported a problem with a different machine. The voter said that the machine would not let her vote for Republican candidates. She had chosen Republican candidates on the screen and the machine changed them all to Democrats when she submitted them. I suggested she hit the “back” button to see what would happen if she tried it again. I watched as she again chose Republican candidates and the machine again changed the Republican candidates to Democrats.
I saw it, the voter saw it, and the Democratic poll worker saw it.
Well at least we won’t have to worry about “saving the country for our kids and grandkids” any more. In choosing Obama, the youth of America just stomped on their own future. C’est la vie.
Enjoy the un-ending third-world poverty Millenials, you’ve earned it. I’m spending all my bread before you can get any of it. Hahaha!
Yes this is the beauty of it.They will have, for years to come a taste of their own medicine.Serve them right!Karma will visit them and I will enjoy it every day.Cannot wait!
Let me be the first to welcome them to sunny Zimbabwe.
“hyperbole” means exaggeration not untruth.
It’s looking like the Republican analysts were just dead wrong on a large number of matters, youth vote, black vote, conservative vote, Hispanic vote.
Or maybe just lying because they felt they could not drag Romney across a winning strategy because of weaknesses in the candidate.
Hey maybe they even believed it, as apparently Karl Rove did.
He also wouldn’t have won without depressed white turnout and white working class voting for Obama. Next time, don’t nominate a vulture capitalist and you’ll do better in a state that has been getting decimated by vulture capitalism for decades.
Or ignore my advice — go ahead and nominate a Latino with the Wall Street Journal editorial board’s seal of approval. See how that plays in Ohio and the rest of the midwest.
What’s a “vulture capitalist”? Some vulgar-Marxist term that’s popular among the illiterati?
Go ask Gingrich, or Rick Perry. They can tell you.
If you don’t know what it means just say so.
A vulture capitalist is one that apparently makes a product that others wish to buy. Now what organization can just take your money and do with it as it pleases? That would be a vulture union or government.
A “vulture capitalist” is someone who pours large sums of money from willing investors into companies on the verge of collapse and tries mightily to restructure them so they can be saved. Most of them go on to thrive — like Staples and Dominoes Pizza — and employ many people while producing goods and services that other people want.
Democrats obviously think that’s a bad thing. They prefer that the government take money from unwilling investors (the taxpayers) and pump it into companies run by Democrat bundlers or controlled by spoiled-brat unions, many of which go bankrupt anyway — but no problem, much of that taxpayer money will end up back in Democrat campaign coffers, which was the plan to begin with. Many more will be unemployed, but no problem, they’ve become Democrat clients.
And that pretty well sums up the difference between Republicans and Democrats.
The bigger difference, which no one likes to talk about, is the black-racist block voting.
Do you complain about the vulture capitalists in silicon valley? Or do you just call investors who invest in uncool companies like Staples “vulture capitalists”.
“Despite all of this, I remain hopeful — Ohio is on the move. Governor Kasich and the Republicans here have dropped the unemployment rate to 7.2% despite (as Kasich likes to say) the “headwinds” coming out of Washington.”
And there reward for having stopped the bleeding will come when they are replaced by Democrats promising more goodies. Given a choice between goodies now or possibly more goodies in some wonderful future, a great many will choose the here and now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_gratification#The_Stanford_Marshmallow_Experiment
The under 30s, especially the white male ones, are going to get their wish, good and hard.
Here in Brooklyn I saw what looked like fraud but I think it was in favor of local candidates at the expense of The Working Families Party. The actual polling booths were empty and lines were very long. Election workers were yelling that unless you voted straight party line (straight down the ballot) your vote was being spit out by the machine. If you vote Obama they said you must vote all Democrat. They showed a ballot where Obama was voted for but other candidates than Democrats were picked and they said that the woman wasted her vote.
The line was split up by first letter of last name at one point from about A-L and M-Z and then recombined for no reason. Then the line was stopped and they requested that nurses and pregnant women only come up to vote (this was by now late in the evening). I voted via affidavit………. It was a sickening display that we are not quite the USA.
From the author: “Mitt Romney lost Ohio by 107,241 votes”
Sure he did.
And Philadelphia precincts reported 95-99 percent turnout,
with Romney tallies in the single digits…like 3 to 7 individual votes out of several thousand cast.
I believe that too.
and some bos precincts had over 135% turnouts……sure.
Less Republicans voted this year over 2008. Did the Ron Paul people stay home?
If so, shame
It was ever thus.
You won the election, but I won the count.
Anastasio Somoza, Nicaraguan leader, in 1977.
Every Lib I’ve talked to since has reaffirmed what they said before.
Social conservatives and evangelicals. That’s who they voted against.
Not our fiscal responsibility, small government, lower taxes and liberty. The Libs I talk to don’t have a beef with that.
Libs conveniently view us as the party of Todd Akin. It played because it hits close to home. Our glaring weakness – an inability to separate Church and State – is interpreted as, paradoxically, an infringement on liberty. Something we preach as well.
And after losing the last two elections because this, I am beginning to wonder if social conservatives would be better served by creating their party instead of weakening ours.
“Libs conveniently view us as the party of Todd Akin”
Gee, and why is that so…
When NO ONE will ever associate Liberals with:
Bernadette Dorn and Bill Ayres
Welfare Fraud, Obama Phones, Illegal immigration
Racial Quotas and Repressive Political Correctness
Rampant Drug Usage, the Sexualization of our children, and horrific Partial Birth Abortions
Soft on Crime, Terrorism, National Defense.
Why do we always worry about being “viewed” negatively, when they are a whole lot WORSE.
We cant blame Todd Akin when he’s a smaller pimple on our ASS than the enormous warts they have all over their NOSE.
IF WE DO, THEN WE AGREE ONLY THEY GET TO DEFINE WHAT BEAUTY IS.
And that’s Bullsh*t
If someone LIES about your good character, do you change it to hopefully compensate for, or negate the damage those lies do to your reputation??
Or do you CONFRONT the lies, CALL them liars, and defend yourself without apology.
They are Bullies. Being “nice” will never make them “like us”
We win with THE TRUTH, and when we’re afraid to say it (“Obama’s a nice guy, he’s just in over his head”)
We lose.
Root, I admire that you stick by your principles, fine.
Socially conservative principles lose crucial elections for conservatives.
Call me whatever you want, but I’m sick of losing because my party is associated with social conservatives.
Have your values – fine. Just not in a government we are trying to limit.
“Have your values – fine. Just not in a government we are trying to limit.”
Yes – you DO want it in YOUR government. You insist upon it.
All we’ve ever asked is not to force us to pay for it. But talk of cutting public (read: taxes) funding for Sesame Street and Planned Parenthood – both billion dollar FOR PROFIT companies – gets us labelled as fanatics that want to impose a theocracy.
Even overturning Roe vs Wade would not ban abortions – it would send it back to the states as it should have been decided in the first place. Just like gay marriage is being decided by the states right now.
What, pray tell, is soooooo wrong with that? It is how it was supposed to work.
lolly, if it’s truly as you say – that we are *perceived* as a theocracy, but are far from it – then I’m happy to be wrong.
All they say to me is “Todd Akin”, and the Sesame Street stuff is just window dressing.
I am not going to blame 100% of everything on them because it removes our control of the situation. I disagree that they are ‘evil’. Ignorant and stupid, yes. But that is the context we are given, and the audience we must play to, to win.
So yes, I’m ‘big tent’ and proud of it, because as a businessman I know that perfect is the enemy of good.
In agreement ’til you said,” O is a nice guy”. He’s a nice guy like leprosy is
just another minor skin irritation.
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Oh, don’t worry, sweetie. Your mushy in the middle failures will never get another vote from me – EVER! Put up another McCain or Romney and I will stay home. Just like most of my co-religionists stayed home THIS election.
The problem with you people is you refuse to understand that we generally don’t CARE about social issues so much. As long as we don’t have to pay for them.
But the media will INSIST on ambushing anyone – even if they ask if it is their personal opinion and not a policy issue – and then they will play the clip around the clock for months on end.
lolly you have just stated your pride in having lost us another election.
Sounds like you hate our party. Please start your own, mine needs to win.
You’re operating under a fallacy. They you are losing because of us. The fact is, you CAN’T win without us.
Reagan knew this. Heck, back then I was a registered democrat and he was the first president I ever voted for. And I voted for him twice.
Everytime you people put up a “moderate” or democrat lite, you lose. Everytime a tea party conservative runs against a republican, they win and they are running against both a democrat & the gop establishment.
You say it’s my pride or whatnot that has effected my decision to stay home in the future. Well, I’ve held my nose and voted for the lesser of evil in the last several elections and what has it gotten me? A bunch of name calling by people who want me to stay home anyway. To shut up.
Well, I happen to know a lot of people like me DID stay home both this time and last time. Mostly because you put up a squish who doesn’t know what side he’s on. And you lost. Who needs who here?
When you vote for “the lesser evil,” you get less evil. When you let the more evil side win by sitting out, you get more evil, and unfortunately you inflict it on the rest of us. I just hope all the purist tantrum-throwers are overrepresented among the people being laid off now and the people who don’t get the medical treatment they want in the future.
You are not sending anyone a message that will give you a purer candidate next time. There’s no great nominator in the sky who will answer your prayers for a pure candidate.
The most critical issue before us in this election was to stop Obama. You chose to let him win because it makes you feel pure. I have nothing but contempt for such a childish view. Many people will suffer more than they needed to because of it.
The Communist Party endorsed Obama and cheered his alleged win. At least they’re smarter about how things work in the political process than the peevish conservative purists.
lolly I see your perspective:
You, a social conservative, believe your social values should be federally legislated because they are so good and true.
I, a conservative, believe that those values should be left to the individual.
You contend that we would have won the election if your social values were supported by the GOP. Evangelical fence-sitters viewed Romney as McCain jr. and sat this one out, right? Disgusting, but likely true to an extent.
And I observe that Liberals are united in their hatred of social conservatives, but scattered in every other way.
Like you, I think there is no greater threat to the country than Liberals. But evangelicals such as yourself decided to sit out the election and watch Liberals win.
Sounds like you have decided that your religious principles conflict with our party’s goal of unseating Liberals. If it’s not your way, it’s the highway.
So what value can you bring Republicans? Anything new? Anything to help instead of harm us?
Then why are you a Republican Todd? The Republican Party wasn’t founded on low taxes or a strong national defense, but on the abolition of slavery. Should that moral issue have been left up to individuals?
Actually, the Republican Party was founded on ideals of protctionist foreign policies, superiority of Congress over the Executive, and government supported industrialization. It’s true that they strongly opposed the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which would have expanded slavery northwards, but until the Lincoln election slavery was back-burner issue. And even Lincoln, though known as an abolitionist, stated that he would not act against slavery in the Union – a promise he kept, as the Emancipation Proclamation applied only to states in rebellion. Those slave states that stayed in the Union remained slaveholding until the passage of the 13th Amendment.
Like it or not, myth buster, there has been a strong “live and let live” component to the right wing tableau. And today there are a lot of us who want small government, low taxes, and fiscal responsibility, while desiring equally that no one arrogate to themselves any right to tell us or anyone else how they should live.
Unsurprisingly, many of us voted for Obama a few days ago. We don’t like his financial policies, but he’s willing to let us be, while the tea party and soc-cons won’t.
@Todd, very astute comments. You might want to google “Dear Red States” to see more about what the Blue staters are saying about you. That email is making the rounds.
The thing about Akin and Marduke is that they are probably only the tip of the iceberg. In the debate Biden’s reply on the abortion question was head and shoulders above Ryan’s reply, even though there were great similarities between their personal beliefs. The difference of course being that Ryan wanted everyone to have the same beliefs as him and Biden wanted everyone to have their own beliefs. Ryan’s statement was so anti-american. Don’t you think?
No Gay marriage. Repeal Roe v Wade. The presidency. Republicans can only have, at most, one.
I think the blog post at top was correct when stating that the young vote was an important factor in the election. Also the hispanic vote.
I don’t like Obama very much and I didn’t vote for him. But really, the republicans got what they deserved. They didn’t put forward a good enough candidate. They are the party of the right wing wackos. Social conservatives are a relatively small percentage of the electorate (even if all your friends fall in that category) and they give normal people the willies. In a few years the tea party won’t seem like such a smart idea.
If it’s really true that a lot of social conservatives stayed home rather than vote for the Republican candidate then they are hardly fit to be called Americans. A schoolchild knows that it’s your responsibility, as an American, to vote.
Things are not looking good for the Republicans.
Biden’s reply was heresy. It is wholly unacceptable for ANY Catholic to say what he said, for ANY reason. That, to me, says he doesn’t believe what the Catholic Church teaches, and it is disgusting that he continues to call himself a Catholic.
Utopia said, “Ryan wanted everyone to have the same beliefs as him and Biden wanted everyone to have their own beliefs.”
And the left doesn’t do this? I could give you a lengthy list, but for now I’ll just say: Obamacare. The difference between liberals and conservatives is that not only do liberals want to force us to believe the same things they do, they want us to PAY for their agenda and they want to enforce speech codes to silence any opposition.
“Obama would not have won without the under-30 demographic”
Because the Progressive liberal schools run by the socialist centeral governement have brain washed them good and proper.
We are doomed and no one seems to care.
49 people keep their jobs…everyone else loses….. Plus, Obama says work together..I went to Mitt and Ann Romney facebook page. I have never seen so much HATE! I am a nurse, I have many doctor and nurse friends they are leaving the country, or moving to states like Texas. I will make sure that the 49 that stay on the job voted Romney.They want war and hate they are fixing to get their wish……….My 18 year old son voted this year for the first time. I told him do not show them photo ID, tell them you have it at home….. they let him vote…unreal. LOL good luck with your Obamacare..it’s not going to work.
For any conservative ‘politics’ now should be about how to make dems’ life a lot harder. After all, this is all they have ever done to conservatives and Republicans. When they get back into power they always ask for cooperation, but they never extend a helping hand to Republicans. Dems are not honorable people. I’m glad Republicans no longer, or rarely, refer to their dems colleagues in Congress as “my friend” such and such; they never were. Dems look upon any American who is not a dem as an enemy in every sense of the word; so, reciprocate and fight them the same way they have fought us—very, very dirty.
I was a pollworker in Cincinnati OH. Discovered a pad of 200+ ballots unsecured in the polling place minutes before we departed after Monday set-up. Add to this that Tuesday evening both ballot bags were discovered to have broken zippers and could not be secured and sealed for transport.
Heard from other pollworkers my story is far from the worst….
Democrats = Voter Fraud.
Period.
Blagh, blagh, blagh. Prove it.
It already exists, but supposedly not in high enough percentages to be dangerous. I say any voter fraud is reason to make the system more secure. If you see one rat, you can be sure there are more hiding.
The arguments against voter ID are absurd!
The reason why Barack Obama will be occupying the White House for the next four years has little to do with malfunctioning ballot machines, bus rides for college students and the GOP’s supposed war on women and minorities; and everything to do with the fact that a majority of our voting neighbors now want a government hand-out more than they want to be free from government intrusion into every corner of their lives.
That is the hard, cold reality of America today. The election of 2012 showed that individualism, self-sufficiency and personal responsibility are now unfamiliar words to a majority of our fellow citizens. The question that apparently occupies their minds when they go to the polling place isn’t whether the incumbent has been a good steward of his office, but whether he is advocating a new government welfare program that will be funded by someone else.
This is where five decades of incremental “progressivism” (which used to be called “creeping socialism”) has led us. Five decades of assault at every level against the fabric of American life. Five decades of the dumbing down of our educational system. Five decades of public-employee unionization. Fifty years of attacks on our moral code. A half-century of growing redistribution of wealth from those who earned it to those who didn’t.
The question we must now answer isn’t so much of “why did we fail?”, but rather, “what do we do now?”
Before the election, I, like many of you, argued that Nov. 6 would be the “most important election of our lives.” We argued that unless we replace Barack Obama with a fiscal conservative, America will fall into the economic abyss. We had to win for the sake of our children and our grandchildren. The future of the world’s last, best hope hangs in the balance.
Well, we failed. The reason why we came up short no longer matters. What matters is how we reverse the damage done by five decades of progressivism. We lost the one chance we had at voting in a solution. We must either rethink the problem, or simply opt out and hope that the roving eye of big government won’t see us as the deluge approaches.
And the deluge is coming. Listening to Obama’s warmed-over post-election speech gives little comfort that he finally sees the light. What we heard is what we heard during his campaign: more taxes on the “millionaires and billionaires.” More “investment” into government programs. Bigger and bigger government.
So, what should we do?
I propose we do nothing.
I propose we tell our party’s representatives in the House to allow the progressive program to play itself out. As long as a majority of Americans support it, the progressive program of ever-bigger government is going to happen. The only question is who will be blamed when it fails, as it surely will fail.
If our party opposes it, at best, only gridlock will result. Of course this would leave the progressive party to charge that it was Republican “obstructionism” that led to the collapse of the house of cards that is the democratic agenda. Thus the progressives will have a built-in argument why Hillary Clinton, rather that a Paul Ryan or a Marco Rubio should be our 46th president. And we would get an additional four to eight years of progressive misrule.
I’m afraid that having failed at the ballot box, the only way to salvage what remains of the tattered American experiment is to allow it to reset. Our neighbors who voted for more free government bling will have to learn the hard way that there really is no free lunch. That “free stuff” carries a pretty stiff price.
I am the first to concede that we of the responsible party will also have to pay that stiff price. That the coming deluge will not respect our party affiliation. We too will be swept along with the takers and the free-riders.
But it’s going to happen, regardless. The only question is who our neighbors will blame? And will they finally discover the true meaning of responsible citizenship.
Regardless of whether we embrace Obama’s program or resist it, the storm is coming. Get ready. We’ve sown the seed of destruction and now we must reap the whirlwind.
Good post Dave. I agree. Whatever Obama wants, give it to him. However, he will NEVER be blamed for any of it. Chrissy Matthews and the rest of the lapdog media won’t every let him take the fall for anything. The fault will always fall on someone or something else, but not him. It was a nice country while it lasted.
…and everything to do with the fact that a majority of our voting neighbors now want a government hand-out more than they want to be free from government intrusion into every corner of their lives.
Ahhh, so you’re better than *they* are, right, otherwise you wouldn’t be pointing out their failures.
If you look at ALL of the data points — we’re talking exit polls where it’s white women who voted Obama over Romney, 59% of all voters favour abortion, homophobic anti-gay ballot attempts failed in FOUR states, pot was legalised in TWO, Akin and Mourdock were both pasted — then these paint a big picture where the electorate rejected social conservative culture warriors and their values. And they not only rejected them, they told you where to put them.
Of course, it’s a great deal simpler for you to have a fantasy where your neighbours are all inferior scumbags looking for handouts than it is to face reality.
And the fact that the non-culture warrior types tend to view your type as hate peddlers never once seems to lend even a whiff of irony to you in your vitriolic post expressing condemnation of your neighbours.
I love this place at times. Entertainment at its best.
Given the evidence of extensive voter fraud in Ohio in 2004 (in that case benefiting the incumbent), I am not surprised to read this report. While there are many issues raised in this post, the most important may be to remove the voting process from the hands of private operators and the political process. Go back back to paper ballots which have a trail.
The longest of treks must start with a baby step.
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Paula,
Of course you didn’t believe it could be true that Obama won, because you’ve spent the last four years in an insulated Fox-Rush bubble of right-wing media that only tells you exactly what you want to hear. When the MSM reported months ago that Obama was well on his way to victory, everyone on the right wing simply said it couldn’t be true, that the mainstream media was simply lying. They weren’t. They were 100% right, down to each and every electoral college prediction. You were duped by Karl Roves and Peggy Noonans.
And this voter fraud stuff? Please, with all due respect, put up or shut up. Either show us verifiable proof, or put it to bed. Part of the reason that the under 30 crowd has divorced itself from the conservative movement is because we’re sick of the constant whining, victimhood, and blaming everyone else for your problems. If you’re not whining about non-provable voter fraud, you’re whining about the Labor statistics, or the War on Christmas, or black people with Obamaphones, or welfare cheats, or abortion-addicted sluts, or illegal immigrants, or the ACLU, or ACORN, or a million other shadowy left wing organizations that are mean and nasty and hate America and are attacking your freedoms, etcetera, etcetera. We’re sick of it. It’s small, it’s petty, and it’s not what we want from a major political party.
Us “kids” are looking forward to a future that you apparently can’t understand. It’s high tech, it runs on new energy sources, it will bring us new jobs, and it will brought to you by a tolerant, diverse America. You folks keep trying to tell us that this vision is evil and wrong and Communist. On Tuesday, we told you exactly what we think of your desperate attempts to keep holding us back. We’re moving forward. Get on the bus or don’t.
Dumkopf. Have it your way. As part of the middle-aged generation, we will un-cheerfully take your future earnings to fund our present consumption and leave your generation holding the worthless iou’s.
It has not worked in four years. It will not work in 40. Physics is against you in the “new energy sources.” Human nature is against you in the “tolerant and diverse America.” There is reality, and there is your imagination. “High tech” fraud is harder to catch; we won’t catch it, but it will catch you. Did anybody ever teach you, child, that you can cheat, but over the long term you can’t cheat and win? Because cheating is spitting in the face of the Creator, and of the reality He created. Enjoy it while you have it. You are so limited that you can’t understand our “complaining” about WRONG is because we LOVE you and want an honorable, good life for you. Love, Granma
Right on, Granma!
I’d like to see them tinker with all their toys when the cost of power necessarily skyrockets and they can’t afford it. Or what they’ll do with themselves when the rolling blackouts start.
Seriously, these people are totally ill equipped to deal with a real world when “things” happen. Just look at New York and New Jersey. All social order collapsed pretty much instantly.
I feel NO pity for them.
Good luck on that bus kiddo. Boy are you going to need it. Wait until the bill comes do. You certainely won’t be moving forward. Reality is going to hit and it’s not going to be pretty. There have never been any “desperate attempts to keep holding us back. We’re moving forward. Get on the bus or don’t”. This comment is almost comical. Nothing is free. You’ll find out soon enough.
I’m a member of your generation and I’d much prefer driving my own car to riding you bus. Try and force me on the bus and I’ll slash the tires.
When I meet people I know who are unemployed living in their parent’s basement I ask if they voted for Obama. When they say yes I just laugh. Our generation is getting what it voted for, good and hard.
Ain’t just you kids. Who do you think invented this stuff?
(oldster now preens)
One thing though, most of us in management are republicans although not of the absurd variety seen in this cesspool. We’re more into capitalist pig-ism and profits and doing it while changing the world. This came about because most of us were young Reagan republicans back in the day, and Reagan was the man where it concerned support of the high tech sector. As a rule it tends to be republican administrations who gather the more knowledgeable tech types and tech companies (not dot coms, but tech creators) benefit greatly. On the surface the dem adminstrations say the right things but their policies are crap (how do you think it is that the majority of what used to be Silicon Valley sits in Thailand these days, anyway?)
GOP = more security, better profits, better law. Bottom line.
The people here are the **minority** of republican voters, but being the stupidest and the loudest, they make it seem like they’re typical. They ain’t.
hokay. we all want a prosperous, happy future. we are just really disagreeing with how to get there.
Let’s start small’n'obvious. You have to be there for it, to enjoy it. Drugs, abortion, the pill, and not-getting married pretty much give you the lifespan of a fruit-fly. Drugs- that’s obvious, I hope. Abortion has a death-rate, fairly high, for the mother. For the baby, it’s 99.9%. Google Gianna Jensen for that last 0.01%. The pill causes strokes. And heart attacks. In young women. My mother had a series of strokes in her twenties. She’s fifty-something. She has brain-scans that look like swiss-cheese. There’s the abortion-birth control-cancer link that gets published overseas, but not in American research journals.
Not married- statisticians are still fighting over these numbers. But in general- getting married, having children, raising them in a stable home, enough so that they have children,too- is protective. The safest living arrangement for a woman is married to the father of her children. For a man- having a sister, and a conservative, religious wife, is the ticket to a healthy, long, happy life. That’s about five different studies I’ve referenced, in one sentence. You can google away.
Second, abortion. Married women really don’t get them. White married women really don’t get them. Single women get them. Black women get them. Urban black women get them most of all. Google the stats on New York City abortions: a “river of blood” is the description- there are more abortions than live births for black women. When you get upset about a suburban, white, married Republican woman opposed to abortion- she’s trying to save the life of an illegitimate, black baby born in a city. Mississippi- governed by Haley Barbour, a white, Republican old guy? Has no abortion clinics. It’s the safest state in the union for black infants.
Third off: children in general. Cities with concrete- aka highways for cars- and sprawl, aka houses with yards- have more room for children. So women have more children. Cities with apartments and public transportation- have less. Eventually, these places have to import people to fund the retirement of the fabulous condo-dwellers. You know how people talk about running out of “other people’s money”? Well, you can plain run out of “other people.” Google Mark Steyn for all the numbers.
Conservative families have more kids. They also have more conservative values. This protects against mental illness. No one knows how or why, but liberals suffer from major psychiatric disorders at about a 400% higher rate than conservatives. It’s hard to get married, stay married, have children, or live a long time, with major mental illness. It’s hard to hold a job, or not end up on the street. Nobody wishes that on anyone.
And plain diversity. Dude. The Republican Party was founded to destroy slavery. It’s what it does, it’s what it did, it’s what it will continue to do. Lincoln was a Republican. Eisenhower was a Republican. Reagan was a Republican. Bush was a Republican. Lincoln- I’m pretty sure you’ve heard of him. He was opposed by Democrats. Eisenhower presided over an integrated, internationally deployed, military. He came home to America, and sent troops to Arkansas to integrate the public schools. Reagan and Bush- knock yourself out on reading- they are within living memory. Bush appointed Condeleezza Rice to be Secretary of State. Democrats called her racist names, drew racist cartoons, sneered at her.
Wilson, a Democrat, banned blacks from federal employment.
The first black senators were from the South, and Republican.
And energy. yeah. v-3 rockets were going to conquer england, too.
Do you and the other idiot above have any idea how stupid you sound? Any at all??
“And this voter fraud stuff? Please, with all due respect, put up or shut up. Either show us verifiable proof, or put it to bed.”
You believe there is no voter/election fraud because you are mind-numbed into believing there is none, and because the LSM does not make an issue of it. Your smuggness of this topic and others is only so because the left owns the media.
“Part of the reason that the under 30 crowd has divorced itself from the conservative movement is because we’re sick of the constant whining, victimhood, and blaming everyone else for your problems. If you’re not whining about non-provable voter fraud, you’re whining about the Labor statistics, or the War on Christmas, or black people with Obamaphones, or welfare cheats, or abortion-addicted sluts, or illegal immigrants, or the ACLU, or ACORN, or a million other shadowy left wing organizations that are mean and nasty and hate America and are attacking your freedoms, etcetera, etcetera. We’re sick of it. It’s small, it’s petty, and it’s not what we want from a major political party.”
So you are comfortable with the America that believes there are no problems like the ones you state above? Really? Okay white boy. When the sh$t hits the fan, I hope you will be wearing your saggy pants and hat on backwards to look cool or you are flaming gay because that is the only way the left will keep you.
“Us “kids” are looking forward to a future that you apparently can’t understand. It’s high tech, it runs on new energy sources, it will bring us new jobs, and it will brought to you by a tolerant, diverse America.”
You kids just bought the farm. Dummy. You will be paying huge taxes for me and the preceeding generations for our Medicare and SS and other retirements. Sucker. Plus when China and the other nations stop covering our debts, inflation will hit YOU and your take-home pay will be zip. Yeah I hope your diverse job will pay you well for my sake. Mutt
“You folks keep trying to tell us that this vision is evil and wrong and Communist. On Tuesday, we told you exactly what we think of your desperate attempts to keep holding us back. We’re moving forward. Get on the bus or don’t.”
I’m not holding you back, Mutt. I hope you get out of your mom’s basement someday. Then and only then will you feel Odummers hands around you neck. And I’ll be laughing while on the beach, reading books knowing idiots like you will be paying for my lifestyle.
This has bugged me for days. Okay, we both want a prosperous, free, abundant future. Other empires have rotted. Some empires have built prosperity. They have writing- we have the records of both.
What gets innovation going is- usually- dissenters, free-thinkers and independent creators. A great dose of ADD helps. America has ADD free-thinkers in spades- usually not the people who have good names and real estate going back to the founding-
England built the Industrial Revolution out of icky poor people laboring to provide thread and yarn for weaving and knitting. The innovators were usually dissenting, non-CofE, tinkerers who tested out their machines. They were eccentric as bats under bridges. They figured out steel, they talked to foreigners, they ventured. The German states were not centralized at all- they were competitive small city-states. Both of them emphasized literacy. Not big college sophisticated literacy- Biblical, elementary literacy. But the Bible is a big book, with some strange ideas in it. People had room to imagine and debate. Nearly everyone had some functional literacy. This meant they read things like- how to dig coal out of the ground, how this farmer used a plow, how to breed excellent sheep, shoddy romance and mystery novels, newspapers. There was a raft of information.
France had a centralized state. The king’s court picked investment winners and losers. They wanted a steel industry- why shouldn’t they have one- petty Germans had steel, stuffy dull British had steel. But.and.however. The man who claimed to have solved steel for the French- didn’t know all the little bits and pieces of steel. So for 150 years France did not have a viable steel industry- for one and half centuries did not even have the ability to have a good Industrial Revolution. America is only a bit past 2 centuries. Do we have nearly all our existence to sit on the sideline while other nations innovate away?
Mr Chu and Mr Obama and Mr Czar haven’t the humillty or sense of a regular investor. They haven’t even a sense of history, or econocmics, or anything. The cheapest way to innovate is to have young, well-educated-ish, tinkering sorts, and let them create. and then, far, far later, acquire or back their company, or simply enjoy the taxes from the people they employ.
That’s how Silicon Valley big companies operate- someone opens a ten-man fir. It fails, they get other jobs. It succeeds- they get bought, or ride the whirlwind. The big company hasn’t paid for the failures, only the successes.
They don’t know they are being played. They don’t know they are the sucker at the table. They don’t know that they are trying the failed states method- Russia did this, France did this. Nobody in charge of anything should wish for 1789, or 1917.
“The red states are going to continue to show the way to govern responsibly.” Yes, but the feds will just take the hard-earned savings and give it to the irresponsible blue states in order to secure them in the next election, and the election after that, etc. After all, we couldn’t actually let them reap what they sow; that would be heartless. Frankly, I don’t see this ending until the feds have bankrupted the entire country (at some point it seems we will be down to one taxpayer, who will eventually wake up and quit too).
I don’t know where you get this from. Blue states consistently subsidize red states with federal tax dollars. The ten states that give more to the federal government in taxes than they get in return are: New Jersey, Nevada, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Illinois, Delaware, California, New York, Colorado.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_reckoning/2012/10/25/blue_state_red_face_guess_who_benefits_more_from_your_taxes.html
Well, Sport, that’s because in the your cute little graphic you self abuse yourself to the vast majority of your “Red States” have a large military presence. So, say it after me, that means lotso federal money going there. Also, have you checked which Red States are actually Red States lately? Try using some recent data, m’kay?
Umm, you’re aware of what the balance of payments actually is in the United States, as far as Red States vs Blue states, right?
I’ll give you a clue: The red states, on bulk, receive a giant subsidy courtesy of those blue states.
When I voted in Ohio on election day, I know that I pressed the area on the voting machine for Romney/Ryan, and the only thing that touched that screen was my finger, but the machine then indicated that my vote was for Gary Johnson.
At least the poll workers came over and cancelled that preliminary vote, and let me make my actual vote for Romney/Ryan, or at least I think so, but something was definitely screwy with that machine.
And lolly, I apologize if I got your hopes up about Ohio. Before the election, I swallowed the Barone-Morris-Fox News Kool-Aid like some others did. And it also seemed like the enthusiasm was on the side of the GOP in Ohio and elsewhere. I think I’ll be at least a tad more cynical next time.
Egil, please call and report this to the OH SOS and your county BOE (and follow up with a letter or email so there is a paper trail). I’m seeing many reports of this exact problem and it needs to be documented. Tell them which precinct you voted in and, if possible, which unit it was. These machines need to be examined. Today I emailed the SOS and my county BOE to formally request an inspection of the machines in my precinct and an investigation into what’s happening with these machines. I CC’d the RNC and the Ohio Republican Party Chairman.
Thank you Paula, I will do that. And I’m sure glad to know about kindred spirits in Ohio such as yourself!
Don’t apologize, Egil. My hopes were up because I really thought people had more common sense. I was wrong.
But, I have to say I’m oddly at peace. I really think I’m done and I really have given up. It’s kind of liberating. My life will be spent in service to the Lord and I KNOW He’ll take care of me.
I should be more upset at the grief that will afflict my fellow Americans but I honestly don’t care. They’ve made their choice and they have free will to change that choice. It’s all on them. I’m free!
Thank you lolly. I feel at peace too! It might sound strange to some, but the events of this campaign and election have helped me get closer to God too.
I often think of Lech Walesa, a humble man in Poland who had to suffer under the powerful Communist regime for several years. Yet one day he climbed up on a wall and helped spark freedom for millions of people.
The future might be dark in this country, but God will look out for us.
Obama’s fellators over at the Comedy Channel were able to get out the moronic youth vote. I heard on this video that Obama fellator Stephen Colbert sent e-mails to all of them and they responded in herds.http://www.theblaze.com/stories/category/politics/
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thank you for writing what you wrote. I woke up not particularly happy about Ohio. Your votes last time cost our family mid-five figures every year for the last few years. My friend, who works, and her husband, who works on commission- nice job, good degrees, have had to go to foodbanks to feed their kids.
This means my husband has to go to dinner with his family and have them ask why he’s not doing well. He has a job. 398 of the men he started working with do not. So, he’s king of his hill, and they don’t get it.
This means I’ve had to wash dishes by hand for the last three years. The dishwasher broke. We can have food on the table, or automatically clean dishes. I have three kids. That’s 1 1/2 to 2 hours every day of my day b/c you can’t root out corruption in your state.
That’s a round of visits to the reproductive endocrinologist. I’ve got three Republican, conservative, religious children. I would have had five- because your state can’t get it’s act together.
I don’t think it’s the donkey party- it’s the Jack-@&& party, as far as I’m concerned. Economically illiterate, morally depraved, squalid, dependent jerks.
Paula, Alan Vera (who has trained over a million poll watchers) is attempting to gather information and recruit GOP insiders to investigate this BEFORE the vote is certified in December. Would you please contact me at the CONTACT page on my website – http://www.PolitiJim.com?
The Univ of Boulder – CO has NEVER been more than 1% off in ANY election since 1980. It is THE MOST ACCURATE polling entity in the country. The numbers for OH, WI, VA and PA are wildly different from the predictions only a week ago – and we think it is enough to get a judge to COUNT BALLOTS to confirm OBama’s win.
This is only the beginning of this massive vote fraud attempt and likely was how Sharon Angle went from a 5 pt lead the day BEFORE the election to a 7 pt loss against Harry Reid. It’s inexplicable until you learn that SEIU owns the contract to courier and count the votes.
We HAVE to draw the line here. The cost of being wrong is to severe and we could loose the HOUSE in 2014 if this isn’t fixed NOW.
^^^^^ This.
Quite likely.
Several cycles ago, it was common for the big urban counties in a given state to report their results first, and the rural counties would come straggling in all night. This is why AlGore claimed victory in 2000, only to have it go down to the wire, as the late arriving votes trended GOP. It’s been that way for a long time.
This all changed in 2004, when Washington State went into recount over the governor’s race. The recount recounted the rural counties first, and then King County took their sweet time, and – oh, btw – “found” some boxes of uncounted ballots in a closet.
The fix was in. The donkeys got away with it, and this became the new way things are done. Now, the big urban counties sit on their results, see how many ballots they need to “find”, and “find” them. It’s all a little too convenient.
I’m not sure if it’s that they are “sitting” on them. I live in a rural county and we use the DRE voting machines, which can be reported fairly quickly because the results are on a memory card that is uploaded at the county BOE. Cuyahoga County, with the state’s largest voting population still uses optical scanners. All those ballots have to be fed into the machine, which takes longer. Several other cities use those as well.
The voting machines are the easiest of all to “fix”. A machine that is delibrately rigged to fix the election will not show the flipped vote to the voter. The algorithm for how many votes to flip is utterly simple and would be in the source code. It would not be detected or fixed by a “recalibration”.
No surprise about the youth vote. Kids in government schools haven’t been taught serious civics or economics in years so little wonder they don’t understand someone has to pay for those free parties, free college and freeloading on their parent’s insurance, etc. Most are too oblivious to understand that Obama has pushed up their share of the national debt to over $200K each, and the more free stuff he hands them the higher it will go. Heck, they probably don’t even understand how much it will jump the next time (and times to come) that the US credit rating is cut.
Oh man, my generation is retarded. I apologize on behalf of them to the rest of the nation. This is a generation that for the most part reveals the most intimate details of their lives on sites like facebook for all to see. They can’t even understand why I would have a problem with the government tracking people through their cellphones, after all they happily broadcast their business willingly. Many are of the mindset that privacy is only for those with “something to hide.” They’re reflexively suspicious of those like me who don’t join in. They are going to be the most easily manipulated and controlled generation in history, the brainwashing has worked well. They’ve also drunk the feminist, global warming, and “diversity” cool-aid so deeply since birth that they’ll reflexively vote against anybody who can be painted as not on board with these agendas, regardless of the harm to themselves. Many who I know personally have gone into debt to attend $50k/yr schools and get a degree in art history, dance, etc without stopping to think that 50×4=200 and they will never repay 200k + interest on the salaries they can make with those degrees, if they can even find a job. Mostly economically illiterate who will happily trade their job prospects for “free” birth control. All together too many are of the “positive rights” mindset that freedom=free shit. They will happily trade their real freedoms for such. They see no problem with the TSA body scanners and most probably wouldn’t object to seeing them spread throughout civic life in the name of “safety”. As long as a Dem did it. I could go on, but unless they wake up the future under their control looks awfully bleak indeed.
This is my own generation I’m ripping on here.
Actually, it is quite simple when you look at it. This is a neo-commie regime; communist regimes own the “press” (the LSM in this case), make up the “facts” (ala Pravda of the USSR era – just consider the official “unemployment rate” or the “inflation rate”), and they “count the votes” (ala Hugo Chavez). They never give up power through fair and free elections.
The US has been “fundamentally transformed” already into a Third World banana republic (just take a look at the half Kenyan “leader” we’ve got in the WH, with the anti-colonial, pro-islamic traits beneath his well polished veneer). In banana republics elections are tantamount to fraud.
Any close look at the “election results” in Ohio and elsewhere (with special attention paid to the inner city precincts in a bunch of States) reveals beyond a shadow of a doubt that these elections were also the product of fraud.
The tragedy of all this is that the “establishment GOP” won’t even consider accepting this simple facts (as if Chicago elections don’t exist, dead people never vote, and ACORN was just a bad dream).
“these simple facts”…mea culpa
Actually, Randomengineer, if you read my comment a bit more carefully, you’ll see I wasn’t pointing out the failure of the majority of my neighbors who put Obama back in office, I was pointing out the failure of those of us who wanted to see him fired.
The majority of my neighbors knew exactly what they wanted. They wanted more government baubles. How else can you explain their vote?
What, they voted for another four years of 8%-plus unemployment? Maybe a 2% GDP looks good to them? Or perhaps they wanted to see more dead Mexican nationals and American border patrol agents slain by high powered assault weapons illegally sold by our government to the drug cartels south of the border? Maybe it was the refusal to turn over to Congress records that would explain these weapon sales by the “most transparent administration” in history?”
If it wasn’t the promise of more government handouts, what was it? Why did they vote for Obama? Maybe it was the sight of our embassies on fire across the Islamic world? Or maybe they just appreciated Obama’s two-weeks of creative explanations as to why four American diplomats were murdered in our Benghazi consulate? Perhaps they like the fact that pleas for help for these men went unanswered as the White House looked on? Or maybe they voted for Obama because he showed such care for the dead diplomats while boarding Air Force One for that all-important fund-raiser in Las Vegas?
If they didn’t vote for an ever-expanding gravy train, Randomengineer, then you tell us why they voted for him?
A black man was ahead of me and my wife in line for voting. He told the poll worker that he had no I.D. He said he had a social security number and nothing else. Nevertheless, he was given a paper provisional ballot by one of the board of elections staff. I’m sure he put his X next to Obama, if indeed he could print an X. I wonder if he was being driven around the city or state by some Democrat official or sheet metal worker with nothing else to do (four of them were caught removing Romney signs from people’s yards in Perrysburg) to cast multiple votes for Obama. That wouldn’t surprise me. I have to wonder how many of these people voted for 0bama in the entire nation, not just in Ohio.
The answer to your question is: more than 3.5 million votes were cast that way and up to 2 million votes were taken away from Romney. And this large scale fraud took also place during 2008, and the “press” simply won’t report it.
Notice that polls carried out by the regime use D+x samples; that x factor is the extent of fraud, expected or having occurred.
Also notice, all inner city precincts that usually decide battleground (like Florida and Ohio) or even “blue” States (like NY or CA) always come in late and in overwhelming numbers:
http://articles.philly.com/2012-11-09/news/34995157_1_voter-turnout-president-obama-gop-voters
In this country, about 54% of the eligible voters cast their votes on the average; but somehow, the various ethnic minorities don’t – they vote by margins reminiscent of communist regimes and Third World countries, margins that approach the 90-100% ranges. Amazing !
ToledoJim: The last 4 digits of you SS are all you need to vote a provisional ballot in Ohio. No ID required. True story.
Paula: that’s a sad commentary about what it takes to vote in Ohio. You barely need a shred of proof who you are and they give you a ballot.
What a strangely bipolar article. First she explains why Romney could never win ohio no matter what.
Then she explains why Obama could not have won without massive ELECTION fraud.
I wont share that kind of mental instability.
You want real America and the fight against clear and present Election Fraud? See Florida and the Allen West recount. He is now winning. You can fight this in your own state too OHIO. Raise hell. DEMAND RECOUNTS
If you are not willing, then put the ring in your nose and let the progressives lead you by the nose. Because if Chavez and Putin can keep power from those people. So can the progressives in this country.
And if you don’t fight it this time, prepare for a Hillary run in 2016. And she will win, no matter how you vote. Mark my words.
Nothing “bipolar” about it: Romney (or ANY Republican) couldn’t win Ohio no matter what, BECAUSE of the extensive electoral fraud committed by the DemocRATS in Ohio. The GOP couldn’t win Florida, or any battleground State with the margins of fraud these people are capable of committing as of November 6th. They lost North Carolina simply because the margin of Romney’s win there was far above the margin of the fraud committed in NC.
BTW, the face of that fraud is young liberal (mostly minority) women – I saw that in the precinct I voted at.
Kinda disconcerting that the “has sex in puddles of vomit/beer” demographic has such a say in our government. Who’s for raising the voting age to 28?
Study the hypocrisy of the left and you will come to only one conclusion:
They have one concern and one concern only: big government liberalism. Anything goes in support of it.
They call conservatives racist, yet they are absolutely vicious to black conservatives (Mia Love, Allen West, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas,…).
They correct you to say “differently-abled” as opposed to “handicapped” yet it’s ok to laugh and make fun of a paraplegic during a national broadcast (Bashir of MSNBC).
Sandra Fluke speaks at the Democratic national convention, decrying the “War against Women”, and behind her on the giant screen she is flanked by Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton. If you cannot see the irony in that, you must be younger than 30 and should look up Chappaquiddick and Christopher Hitchens’ book about Clinton, “No One Left to Lie To.” The title was mistaken, unfortunately: old Billy got to wag that finger again to the whole nation. A new generation of folks to lie to listened.
Continue this exercise and there is only one conclusion: Liberals have no principles and care not about anything but one thing: liberalism itself.