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Obama’s Second, and Continuing, Big Lie

The administration’s 2010 rules were written to undermine employer-provided insurance as well.

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John Rosenberg

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November 6, 2013 - 11:09 pm
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CNN noted that “Senate Democrats” (including many who now act surprised about all the policy cancellations they failed to prevent) “voted unanimously three years ago to support the Obamacare rule that is largely responsible for some of the health insurance cancellation letters” now going out.

The only mentions I have seen of Obama’s second big lie in the press are in two excellent recent contributions to Forbes online. Charles Conover thoroughly analyzed the impact of the June 2010 regulations and estimates:

if Obamacare is fully implemented, at least 129 million (68%) will not be able to keep their previous health care plan either because they already have or will lose that coverage by the end of 2014. This includes:

  • 9.2 to 15.4 million in the non-group market

  • 16.6 million in the small group market

  • 102.7 million in the large group market

“In short,” Conover concludes, “the ‘vast majority’ are not keeping their health plans,” which the administration ensured (pardon the pun) by its June 2010 regulations. “Statements to the contrary are flatly untrue.”

A day later, and independent of Conover’s analysis, Avik Roy reached the same conclusion, noting that the administration’s regulations would and were intended to produce “massive disruption of the private insurance market.” Not just the for those with individual plans, he emphasized, “but also the market for employer-sponsored health insurance.”

Actually, the new regs did keep Obama’s promise to one special interest group of his supporters: unions. “Union plans,” Betsy McCaughey writes, “were ‘grandfathered’ with none of those fine print tricks and exceptions. (Sec. 1251(d)).”

The following is from the Congressional Record, Sept. 29, 2010, p. S7690:

Mr. ENZI. According to the administration, in small businesses, 80 percent of the people — unless this is passed — will lose the insurance they have and like, and in all businesses 69 percent will. Those are not my numbers; those are the administration’s numbers.

Mr. McCAIN . But isn’t it also true that is the case for small business and people and entrepreneurs all over America except the unions? Isn’t that true? Isn’t this a carve-out again, part of this sleaze that went into putting this bill together, part of the “Cornhusker kickback,” the “Louisiana purchase,” the buying of PhRMA…. Part of one of those sweetheart deals was the unions are exempt; is that correct?

Mr. ENZI. That is correct.

The recent attempt to claim, in effect, that Obama broke his promise only to “fewer than 5 percent of Americans,” as the president just claimed in Boston, is as big a lie as his repeated “if you like them you can keep them” assurances.

Unless, that is, your insurance is provided through a union.

It is becoming increasingly clear that when government controls health care, winners and losers are chosen by politicians for political reasons.

 

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Not just that, but you end up being a chump. Just like those of us who didn't buy houses we couldn't afford, do actually live within our means, don't go in to debt to buy the fanciest car. And the people who don't live providently get bailed out. Crazy.
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Greywolf125 - Do you have a point? I'm not sure what you are getting at, you did not make it clear and we can't read your mind.

I was not a supporter of the war in Iraq, but Bush did not "lie". His statements were necessarily based upon the sum of the intelligence available at the time (which, if you are not aware, is not the same as factual knowledge) and based on information from informants and spys and such as was available to American intelligence functions. Further all but one Democrat (if memory serves) agreed with Bush by virtue of their vote to go to war with Iraq.

Obama had and has full and complete access to the actual hard data on Obamacare from day one. No Republicans voted for Obamacare. Further, Obama's had complete and utter control over Obamacare from inception. If Obama does not understand the key aspects, drivers, outcomes and status of his signature endeavor, it's because he doesn't want to know, or is incapable of functioning as an executive manager.. most likely, both.

So again, what is your point?
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Consider the maligned 5% of policyholders in the individual market. These are the people who used their own, after tax dollars to buy what policies they could afford in order to avoid becoming the dreaded "free riders." Those acting responsibly are the first to be punished.

FYI Unless you have negotiated with your employer for benefits, you cannot call it "your" plan. The question is not whether you can keep your plan but whether your employer will be able to afford to offer you any plan.
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You cant blame republicrats for this one. The repubs did everything they could to prevent this from passing, and to kill or mediate it afterwards. So this time it is not republicrats, it is just democrats.
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So basically, not only was obamas "you can keep it" a known baldfaced lie, but it has been replaced with yet another baldfaced lie, that only 5% are affected. When the truth is once the business mandate kicks in next year that 5% will rise well above 50%. Its getting pretty bad when we not only get lies, but lies about the lies.
I just thought of another thing. Considering that some of these cancelled plans are resulting in cancer victims not getting treatment, eventually some of those people are going to end up dying. Dems beat us over the head for years with "Bush lied, people died" even thugh Bush did not actually lie. Now is it our turn to be constantly saying "Obama lied, people died".
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You may be an Obama supporter, but are you really willing to support others who will be given your tax money to provide them with health insurance? Your rates go up to support them and your annual deductible amount goes up, too. This isn’t for a single year, but will go on forever if obamacare is not repealed. Since the Democrats will not join the effort, join with us in voting Republican to get enough people in office who want to repeal the law. Vote your pocketbook, not some ideology you have accepted. Remember, it’s your money. This situation is hardly different from being assigned to support an illegal alien.
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I seem to recall the Dems whining about "Cadillac" health care plans while ramming the ACA down our throats way back in 2009. Apparently, a plan that provided gold-plated coverage was evil, sort of like Hitler or leprosy.

Now, people are losing their bare bones policies and forced to buy more expensive policies that cover things like breast exams and pap smears for me, and prostate exams and hair regeneration therapy for women.

Ignorance is strength. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Obamacare is Affordable Care.
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But the union cadallac plans are immune, as are federal workers and politicians. Obama and the dems always take care of their cronies.
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Where can we go to receive relief from bad-apple government?
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The voting booth.
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Obama's intention is to dismantle and destroy the entire insurance industry. Think about that. Maybe health insurance is just the first step, but that is still a lot of people who will find themselves unemployed in a few years. So, if he can dismantle that so easily (no one was outraged when his first action in office was to take over the auto industry and take peoples car lots from them to give to their competitors) why not auto and home insurance?

This IS big C communism.
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RE: Union Insurance Plans being exempt. My Individual HIPPA Plan that I CHOSE, (from United Healthcare), will be LONG GONE after 12/31/13, so I have started calling insurance companies to see what is out there (& to avoid both the non-functioning Obamacare website AND the equally non-functioning NV Silver State Exchange). Here in Las Vegas I have seen T.V. Commercials for a NEW insurance company that is a "co-op", so I thought I would check it out. "Nevada Health Co-op" is run by the "Culinary Union" it turns out. Their plans look good, & their commercials mention that this is insurance that is equalivalent to the quality of the insurance provided by the Culinary Union. I said to the CSR "This must be good insurance, because the Culinary Union gets what the Culinary Union wants". She EMPHATICALLY agreed with my statement, which I floated as a "test balloon"...HUM. So...I have NO IDEA YET which Insurance Company I will buy from yet, but I found it MOST INTRIGUING that Unions can now go into the Insurance biz, offering Insurance to everyone...NOT JUST Union Members!! On a side note, ANY PLAN I purchase will include "Maternity Care" for this 61 year-old woman whose had a hysterectomy...WTF????
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Yes... And where were/are the Republicans to tell America that Obama, his Weathmen Communists and their pocket protector media...we're/are INTENTIONALLY lying to us?

Who is protecting the Constition? Who is protecting our liberties? Who is protecting our information stream?

They are all under assault...and the Republicans are cowering in a corner...and only come out to snarl at Ted Cruz.
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"Who is protecting the Constitution?...". WE ARE...welcome to the Libertarian Party!! Now if you "Republi-crats" will STOP bellyaching about YOUR PET rights & ignoring the rights of others & agree with us that ALL our Constitutionally guaranteed rights are worth saving, then and ONLY THEN will we make our voices heard. In the meantime, expect your "Individual Rights" to be trampled on...perhaps your neighbors faves today & your faves won't be affected until tomorrow, but in the end, we will ALL LOSE EVERYTHING, UNLESS YOU ALL WAKE UP!!
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