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		<title>By: REB SHLOMO</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/obamas-electoral-problems-transcend-race/#comment-61522</link>
		<dc:creator>REB SHLOMO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come Obama is leading in the polls? Jennifer do you hate or fear shwartzs? Try listening to what Obama has to say - you might be surprised if you reviewed his speeches in FLINT &amp; DETROIT. I watch all speeches diligently, McCain is losing relevance with each new thing he says. What you say can only be correct if you ignore the enthusiasm for Obama-- REB  SHLOMO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come Obama is leading in the polls? Jennifer do you hate or fear shwartzs? Try listening to what Obama has to say &#8211; you might be surprised if you reviewed his speeches in FLINT &amp; DETROIT. I watch all speeches diligently, McCain is losing relevance with each new thing he says. What you say can only be correct if you ignore the enthusiasm for Obama&#8211; REB  SHLOMO</p>
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		<title>By: Commentary &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hey, This Year&#8217;s Electoral Map Looks Just Like 2004</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/obamas-electoral-problems-transcend-race/#comment-58356</link>
		<dc:creator>Commentary &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hey, This Year&#8217;s Electoral Map Looks Just Like 2004</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the base any more effectively than John Kerry and Michael Dukakis could. (Indeed Obama arguably has greater challenges than they did with key demographic groups). Add to that the fact that Americans have efficiently [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John Samford</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/obamas-electoral-problems-transcend-race/#comment-51638</link>
		<dc:creator>John Samford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rubin is simply repeating Hillary’s failed argument. I’m not sure why she even wrote this column.
   Because it&#039;s NOT a failed argument.  You wish it to fail and are projecting.

Party primaries and general elections are two completely different ballgames. There is no valid comparison.
   Actually there is.  Go back to your Pyle and White &quot;Fundamentals of Accounting&quot;.  Turn to the chapter on &#039;Cost accounting&#039; (chapter 7, IIRC.  It has been several decades).  ANY two things can be compared.  On a cost-per-unit (vote) basis if nothing else.  Now using those numbers as a means of projecting future votes is completely bogus.  But that is true of ANY statistical calculation used to predict human actions.  Statistics DON&#039;T predict outcomes, they predict trends.  Look it up, Pyle and White again.
ALL the trends are going against Ohhh...BAMA in the general election.  That is why I hope he can bluff Billery into quitting.  I don&#039;t think he will, but all a paleo-conservative can do in todays environment is hope.
Nobody to give money to, nobody to vote for.  All I can do is vote against a candidate.  That will be either the half black Marxist or the trailer trash in the pink tent suit, depending on which one the democratic party throws up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rubin is simply repeating Hillary’s failed argument. I’m not sure why she even wrote this column.<br />
   Because it&#8217;s NOT a failed argument.  You wish it to fail and are projecting.</p>
<p>Party primaries and general elections are two completely different ballgames. There is no valid comparison.<br />
   Actually there is.  Go back to your Pyle and White &#8220;Fundamentals of Accounting&#8221;.  Turn to the chapter on &#8216;Cost accounting&#8217; (chapter 7, IIRC.  It has been several decades).  ANY two things can be compared.  On a cost-per-unit (vote) basis if nothing else.  Now using those numbers as a means of projecting future votes is completely bogus.  But that is true of ANY statistical calculation used to predict human actions.  Statistics DON&#8217;T predict outcomes, they predict trends.  Look it up, Pyle and White again.<br />
ALL the trends are going against Ohhh&#8230;BAMA in the general election.  That is why I hope he can bluff Billery into quitting.  I don&#8217;t think he will, but all a paleo-conservative can do in todays environment is hope.<br />
Nobody to give money to, nobody to vote for.  All I can do is vote against a candidate.  That will be either the half black Marxist or the trailer trash in the pink tent suit, depending on which one the democratic party throws up.</p>
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		<title>By: John Samford</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Samford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;…we are not only left with the least worst choice.&quot;

Yes we are.  If you think otherwise, you are just as delusional as the Obamamites.  Any vote for a 3rd party candidate is the same as a vote for Ohhhh.....BAMA.  
Remember how we got Billery in the first place.   All those Perot voters did the trick for Slick Willie. I know, I was one of them.  Learn from my error.
You might as well just go ahead and vote for Ohhhh....BAMA as for Barr or any of the other nutbags.  I call it weasel voting.
Be a good American.  Vote against the candidate you hate the most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;…we are not only left with the least worst choice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes we are.  If you think otherwise, you are just as delusional as the Obamamites.  Any vote for a 3rd party candidate is the same as a vote for Ohhhh&#8230;..BAMA.<br />
Remember how we got Billery in the first place.   All those Perot voters did the trick for Slick Willie. I know, I was one of them.  Learn from my error.<br />
You might as well just go ahead and vote for Ohhhh&#8230;.BAMA as for Barr or any of the other nutbags.  I call it weasel voting.<br />
Be a good American.  Vote against the candidate you hate the most.</p>
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		<title>By: OLDPUPPYMAX</title>
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		<dc:creator>OLDPUPPYMAX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Barry Hussein is a Marxist. But that is certainly not going to deter blacks from voting for him at better than a 90% clip in Nov. After all, blacks have been voting for Marxists for a very long time. It is the white vote that will sink the Messiabamas ship. We evil racists are not quite so willing to give up our rights to Big Brother for a monthly check, or a vapid use of the words change and hope. Even the 24/7 campaigning of the MSM will not give the White House to an utterly empty and dangerously incompetent suit like Barry Hussein. The left will just have to wait until they&#039;ve succeeded in doing away with talk radio and the internet. Only the next Cronkite era media monopoly will give them the ammo needed to fool everybody again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Barry Hussein is a Marxist. But that is certainly not going to deter blacks from voting for him at better than a 90% clip in Nov. After all, blacks have been voting for Marxists for a very long time. It is the white vote that will sink the Messiabamas ship. We evil racists are not quite so willing to give up our rights to Big Brother for a monthly check, or a vapid use of the words change and hope. Even the 24/7 campaigning of the MSM will not give the White House to an utterly empty and dangerously incompetent suit like Barry Hussein. The left will just have to wait until they&#8217;ve succeeded in doing away with talk radio and the internet. Only the next Cronkite era media monopoly will give them the ammo needed to fool everybody again.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Rubin is wrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Rubin is wrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ajmalkov: &quot;Are you really trying to suggest that Obama can “win” the states you list?&quot;

No.  I did not suggest that.  I stated that Rubin&#039;s understanding of Obama&#039;s base is limited to his primary performance and can&#039;t be used to measure his potential in the general election.

In fact the point of my post was that many of Obama&#039;s states are NOT dominated by members of his supposed young, black &quot;elitist&quot; base.  

Rubin is simply repeating Hillary&#039;s failed argument.  I&#039;m not sure why she even wrote this column. 

Party primaries and general elections are two completely different ballgames.  There is no valid comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ajmalkov: &#8220;Are you really trying to suggest that Obama can “win” the states you list?&#8221;</p>
<p>No.  I did not suggest that.  I stated that Rubin&#8217;s understanding of Obama&#8217;s base is limited to his primary performance and can&#8217;t be used to measure his potential in the general election.</p>
<p>In fact the point of my post was that many of Obama&#8217;s states are NOT dominated by members of his supposed young, black &#8220;elitist&#8221; base.  </p>
<p>Rubin is simply repeating Hillary&#8217;s failed argument.  I&#8217;m not sure why she even wrote this column. </p>
<p>Party primaries and general elections are two completely different ballgames.  There is no valid comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: ajmalkov</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajmalkov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 20:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer Rubin Is Wrong:

Are you really trying to suggest that Obama can &quot;win&quot; the states you list?

Of non &quot;blue&quot; states, in a general election he MIGHT win Illinois, Hawaii and &quot;Americans Abroad.&quot;

And as an Illinoisan, I wouldn&#039;t even give him Illinois. He&#039;s giving this state a black eye with his racist associations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer Rubin Is Wrong:</p>
<p>Are you really trying to suggest that Obama can &#8220;win&#8221; the states you list?</p>
<p>Of non &#8220;blue&#8221; states, in a general election he MIGHT win Illinois, Hawaii and &#8220;Americans Abroad.&#8221;</p>
<p>And as an Illinoisan, I wouldn&#8217;t even give him Illinois. He&#8217;s giving this state a black eye with his racist associations.</p>
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		<title>By: Moultrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moultrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 15:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s chicago gang as well as their candidate are seeing dead people all over again...but only a few willbw able to vote!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s chicago gang as well as their candidate are seeing dead people all over again&#8230;but only a few willbw able to vote!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Rubin is wrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Rubin is wrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 14:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer Rubin is wrong.

She is comparing Obama&#039;s performance in 2008 Democratic primaries to Kerry and Gore&#039;s general election results against a Republican.

This is apples and oranges.

The white Democrats who didn&#039;t vote for Obama in the primaries are still Democrats.  To suggest that he has a &quot;white problem&quot; by cherry-picking states that Clinton won is just silly.

 Iowa, South Carolina, Alabama, Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, North Dakota, Utah, Louisiana, Nebraska, Washington, Maine, Washington, D.C., Maryland, Virginia, Hawaii, Wisconsin, Vermont, U.S. Virgin Islands, Democrats Abroad, Wyoming and Mississippi. 

Those are the states won by Obama so far.  Would any serious person suggest that these states are represented primarily by blacks, &quot;ultra-liberals&quot; and college students?

This article reminds me of electoral college analysis from May 2004 that showed solid evidence of a John Kerry blowout.  Democrats wanted to believe this so badly that they ignored all evidence to the contrary.  We all know how that worked out.

People see what they want to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer Rubin is wrong.</p>
<p>She is comparing Obama&#8217;s performance in 2008 Democratic primaries to Kerry and Gore&#8217;s general election results against a Republican.</p>
<p>This is apples and oranges.</p>
<p>The white Democrats who didn&#8217;t vote for Obama in the primaries are still Democrats.  To suggest that he has a &#8220;white problem&#8221; by cherry-picking states that Clinton won is just silly.</p>
<p> Iowa, South Carolina, Alabama, Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, North Dakota, Utah, Louisiana, Nebraska, Washington, Maine, Washington, D.C., Maryland, Virginia, Hawaii, Wisconsin, Vermont, U.S. Virgin Islands, Democrats Abroad, Wyoming and Mississippi. </p>
<p>Those are the states won by Obama so far.  Would any serious person suggest that these states are represented primarily by blacks, &#8220;ultra-liberals&#8221; and college students?</p>
<p>This article reminds me of electoral college analysis from May 2004 that showed solid evidence of a John Kerry blowout.  Democrats wanted to believe this so badly that they ignored all evidence to the contrary.  We all know how that worked out.</p>
<p>People see what they want to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Believer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Believer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 03:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, with the release today of the tape of Pfleger ranting at TUCC, those seniors, Catholics and working class folks will be pretty hard to come by.

In fact, he&#039;ll be lucky to get the vote of Anyone With A Brain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, with the release today of the tape of Pfleger ranting at TUCC, those seniors, Catholics and working class folks will be pretty hard to come by.</p>
<p>In fact, he&#8217;ll be lucky to get the vote of Anyone With A Brain.</p>
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