Obama’s Electoral Problems Transcend Race
It is no secret: Barack Obama’s near-nomination rests largely on a coalition of African Americans, high income voters, young people and self-described “very liberal” Democrats. These voters have consistently turned out in primary races, giving him a majority of the pledged delegates (if you don’t count Michigan and Florida). Many pundits, joined by Hillary Clinton, have focused on the absence of white voters in Obama’s coalition.
The numbers are striking. Since the heady primary days of Maryland, Virginia and Wisconsin, white Democratic voters have in essence abandoned Obama, even after the mainstream media declared the race over. In Kentucky, for example, he received a paltry 23% of the white vote. In Pennsylvania he garnered 37% of the white vote. In West Virginia the margin with these voters was 71-23%. Even in Indiana where Obama lost by only two percentage points, he lost the white vote by twenty points. And in North Carolina where he cruised to a double digit win he still lost white voters 61-37%. (But, yes, in Oregon with 57% of the voters identified as liberal he managed to win whites — the first time since Vermont’s primary back on March 4.)
And although it is true that both John Kerry (41-58%) and Al Gore (42-54%) lost the white vote, it may be hard for Obama to slip below their levels of support and still win. John Pitney, professor of political science at Claremont College, reminds us that going back to 1972 the Republican share of the white vote has never fallen below 54% in winning years. To keep McCain below that figure Obama will need to improve substantially among white voters.
But this is not Obama’s only problem. There are several others that have gained less attention, but may be equally serious.
The first is an electoral puzzle. A handy map by Karl Rove’s firm lets us all in on the most underreported story of the election: Blue states are still Blue, Red states are still Red and there are not that many still left in play. At least not now. Put differently, the country’s population has largely divided itself by states that divide quite evenly between the parties.
And for all the hype about his ability to transcend historic differences, Obama’s obvious problems with Appalachian states and the South’s conversion to Republicanism limit his ability to make inroads beyond traditional Blue states. Whether using Rove’s map or other tabulations, John McCain may start out with over 200 electoral votes and enjoy some openings in Ohio and Florida. Given that, the road to 270 electoral votes is not yet clear for Obama.
The second issue for Obama is age. Now McCain supposedly was the one with the “age problem,” but the one that counts is the age of the voters. There are lots of seniors who vote and so far they have been wary of Obama. In state after state, even while winning in Oregon, he has lost the senior vote to Clinton. Perhaps they don’t “get” and don’t much approve of Obama-mania, or perhaps they have seen enough to be skeptical of someone peddling “change” as if it were a new shirt one can easily slip on.
As one report noted:
“In the Pennsylvania and Ohio primaries, Obama lost older whites by 30 percentage points, while Clinton split white voters under age 30 in both critical contests. Obama’s senior problem is even greater among Hispanics. The Illinois senator lost older Latinos by 40 to 60 percentage points in Texas, New Mexico and California. . , Even in Wisconsin, where the white working class moved to Obama, he lost whites age 60 and older by 9 percentage points. . . In Pennsylvania and Ohio, Clinton won a stunning seven in ten white voters age 60 and older primarily because the gender gap diminishes to Clinton’s favor with older voters.”
The degree to which seniors make up a significant portion of the electorate in key swing states that already are problematic for Obama (e.g. Ohio and Florida) only multiplies the problem.
The third problem for Obama is economic class. Working class voters have not embraced him, despite his new found affection for protectionism and his efforts to highlight his background as a “community organizer.” (Perhaps most working class voters have never been “organized” in their communities and have not a clue what that means.) In Ohio, voters making less than $50,000 selected Clinton by a margin of 56-42%. Obama lost that same segment of the electorate in Texas, Kentucky, West Virginia and even California (the latter by a margin of 59-35%).
For Democrats, these voters are key to victory. Kerry was able to win downscale voters convincingly (55-44%) as was Gore, albeit less dramatically in the $30,000-$50,000 income range. And again, these voters make up a significant bloc of the voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania and the rest of the Rust Belt as well as potential swing states like Nevada and New Mexico.
And then there are Catholic voters. Once again, Obama has been unsuccessful to date in luring them. Pew polling analysis found that in Pennsylvania Clinton carried 72% of the Catholic vote, despite support for Obama from prominent Catholics like Bob Casey, Jr. But his problem is not limited to one state.
The Obama campaign has made a strong effort to deal with this lack of support among Catholics but has had only limited success so far. Could this problem persist in the general election if Obama is the Democratic nominee? It might, and, if so, it would pose a challenge for Obama in battleground states like Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan. We should keep in mind, however, that many of the Democratic Catholics who did not vote for Obama in the primaries might well support him in the fall against John McCain. But on the other hand, not all white Catholics are Democrats — many are independents or Republicans. If nothing else, this means that white Catholics are a key group to watch.
So while it is true that the electorate in the Democratic primary polarized along racial lines it remains an open question whether that will persist in the general election and whether other groups — seniors, downscale voters and Catholics — pose equal or greater challenges for Obama.
Hispanic voters also remain a question mark. In a recent Gallup poll McCain drew 37% of the Hispanic vote, midway between George W. Bush’s share of this segment of the electorate in his successful runs against Kerry (44%) and Gore (35%). Despite conservatives’ misgivings about McCain’s stance on immigration, Pitney says that “it does seem to help him among Hispanic voters. In particular, it could help him hold key Western states in the GOP column: New Mexico, Colorado, and Nevada.”
What is certain: the same coalition of ultra-liberals, African Americans, young voters and high income elites whom Obama has come to rely more heavily upon as the primaries wore on will not be sufficient to carry him to victory in November. There are, quite frankly, not enough of these voters in enough states for him to win without expanding his appeal.
Could he expand his base to encompass seniors, working class voters and Catholics and could he boost his share of Hispanics? Of course. Indeed, the general election will be determined largely by how effectively each of the candidates is in luring those voters into his fold.






Well written. Only one observation:
“Since the heady primary days of Maryland, Virginia ….”
Also please note that, as A) these were “open” primaries and B) McCain had long been settled upon on the other side of the aisle, there were more than a few Republicans who chose to – ahem – “have their say” about the Democratic Party candidate, though they had no interest in voting Democratic in November.
Also on this subject:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/are_conservatives_cutting_off.html
I also thought your piece was well written and the analysis of the “white Catholic” vote is surely on the mark.
Obama is squarely Pro-Choice, Most Catholics are firmly Pro-Life. Many Dems with their liberal outlook miss that point by a mile, that there is a whole segment of our society which is fervently anti-abortion, this may also help explain Obama’s poor showing among predominately Catholic Hispanic voters.
And then there is the issue of Obama’s Church, I think too much has been made of the “Black Liberation Theology” taught at Obama’s Church, and I think it offends most Catholics’ sensibilities. Most of us like to vote for someone whom we believe *thinks* the same way we do, any glimpse into the workings of the TUCC reveals a world most of us don’t fathom.
Just a thought.
Non-Ivy League white voters would be foolish to vote for Barack “Barry” Obama. He and his guilt tripped white “elite” allies will almost certainly hurt them. The latter will be forced to pay for the “past injustices of the white majorities.” Never forget that the white elites some forty years ago sent their own children to private schools—while the progeny of the common folk were bused across the other side of town. There is tacit agreement between Obama and elite whites: “Go along with the politically correct agenda and you will be amply rewarded. The price tag will be paid by the hoi polloi.” At the end of the day, voting for Obama is inadvertently benefitting racist David Duke. The Chicago U.S. senator will set back race relations in the United States minimally twenty years.
The military delivered my absentee ballot too late to allow my vote against Jimmy Carter to count. I look forward to the opportunity to correct that problem.
You say Carter’s not running? I say he is. Obama has the same naive policies that didn’t work then and won’t work now. Elect this guy and we could be praying for the Bush “recession” to come back.
Ed Wallis,
I don’t know what you mean by Maryland being an open primary. I’m independent and could not vote in the MD primary. It looks like I will be writing-in Hillary’s name in the GE, whether she throws her support to Obama or not.
tgr,
mea culpa…perhaps only VA in our area…but, if I may add, it certainly applied to many other states.
Thanks for the info.
Nice and concise JR. Denver will provide an interesting peak inside the “progressive” machine. Looking sort of forward to it.
In November I will be voting AGAINST Obama not for McCain.
In November I will vote for the best democrat, which is John McCain.
As far as Ohhhh……BAMA being half black, that won’t matter nearly as much as him being all Marxist. He won’t do as well as Dukisis, Mondale, or Kerry for the same reason. Socialism had it’s day in America in the 30′s and it won’t come roaring back, no matter how much those tired old 60′s radicals want it to.
When you go at it by voting block, things look pretty grim for Ohhhh…..BAMA. Which is why Billery is still in the hunt.
Well written and don’t forget those of us who feel we have been either taken for granted by the Dems or even asked to leave if we are not prepared to become Obama-ites.
http://strictlyanecdotal.com
This is all well and good, and very interesting. But it is overthinking a very basic problem that Obama has. The population of the United States is not nearly ready to elect an unreconstructed, unapologetic, angry, envious and vengeful far-left radical to the presidency. It has nothing to do with his race, or his age. It has to do with what he stands for, what he says, what he thinks, who his friends are.
Dead man walking. Forget him. He will never come close to being elected. Ever.
I like the comment about voting for the best Democrat in the race: John McCain…conservatives are really feeling left out this year. In my neck of the woods(red part of a blue state) I am beginning to see Ron Paul and Tax Payer (Consitution Party) Party bumper stickers. There are many people here who think highly of Bob Barr…
…we are not only left with the least worst choice.
Increase Mather:
(sigh) So while Chicago Machine Messiah and his band of merrymen drive the place into the ground, they’ll be driving around (if you will still be able to afford the gas) with a sticker “Don’t blame me, I voted Libertarian!”? Why not go all the way and write in Ayn Rand or Ronald Reagan?!
There is protest voting, and then there is political masturbation. Sometimes one doubles as the other. If this were France (perish the thought), what these people want to do might actually make sense: a protest vote for during the first round, then vote for the lesser evil during the runoff 14 days later. Right here they’ll just make B-HO laugh all the way to the bank.
Increase Mather:
There are protest votes, and then there is political self-abuse. WHat these people propose to do might make sense in France: a protest vote in the first round, then vote for the “lesser evil” 14 days later in the runoff. In the USA all it will achieve is make Chicago Machine Messiah laugh all the way to the bank.
“we are not only left with the least worst choice.”
Ummm, actually in REALITY you are. It’s only in Fantasy World that a vote wasted counts for anything whatosever.
If McCain is less ‘bad’ in your view than the usual suspect dressed up in all new spiffy attire, and you proceed to vote for Barr who is a nobody running for a nothing Party, then you have objectively cast a REAL vote for the worst possible outcome.
Subjectively you get to feel all righteous about your choice but if the ‘worst’ candidate of the REAL candidates then goes on to win, you have objectively allowed and indeed enabled that to happen.
So essentially you really are “left with the least worst choice ” scenario. You just don’t want to accept it.
Huge difference there.
Huge.
bo has a purported 90% backing of black voters. The question is what % of that 90% is rasict? Or what % of that 90% ever thought about the causal equation of bo as president?
bo is a socialist, and the black voting block may not realize what that actually means. The entire US electorate hates socialism, and considers it as anti thwetical to being American. Now, the truth lies somewhere in the space betyween blacks voting as a block, for reasons of blackness…..or, that blacks dont care that the working class including both sexes, does not want socialism…
the problem is clear….and its not a situation that will be negotiated and compromised by those of us whose economics are more important than race gender or religion.
go ahead now and do the math.
Attention black voters; here is the historical sum of socialists running for president…..
Here is what the American people thought of socialists when they had the opportunity to vote for someone brave enough to identify themselves for what they really are.
1936 Total vote cast 45.6 million Socialist Candidate Norman thomas 188,000
1940 Total Vote Cast 49.9 million Socialist candidate Norman Thomas 116,000.
1944 Total vote cast for President 47.99 vote cast for socialist candidate Norman Thomas 79,000.
1948 Total Vote cast for President 48.8 million vote cast for *progressive candidate henry Wallace 1,157,000
*reflects name change to broaden appeal.
1952 total Vote cast for President 61.6 million
Vote cast for progressive party Vincent Hailinan 140,000
1956 Total Vote cast for President 62 million vote cast for *progressive candidate socialist labor Eric Hass 44,000
*reflects name change to broaden appeal.
1960 Total Vote cast for President 68.8 million vote cast for socialist labor candidate eric hass 48,000
*reflects 3rd name change in 40 years to broaden appeal.
1964 Total Vote cast for President 70.6 million vote cast for *progressive candidate socialist labor Eric Hass 45,000
*reflects name change to broaden appeal.
1968 Total Vote cast for President 73.2 million vote cast for *progressive candidate socialist labor henning bloman 53,000
*reflects name change to broaden appeal.
Well, with the release today of the tape of Pfleger ranting at TUCC, those seniors, Catholics and working class folks will be pretty hard to come by.
In fact, he’ll be lucky to get the vote of Anyone With A Brain.
Jennifer Rubin is wrong.
She is comparing Obama’s performance in 2008 Democratic primaries to Kerry and Gore’s general election results against a Republican.
This is apples and oranges.
The white Democrats who didn’t vote for Obama in the primaries are still Democrats. To suggest that he has a “white problem” by cherry-picking states that Clinton won is just silly.
Iowa, South Carolina, Alabama, Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, North Dakota, Utah, Louisiana, Nebraska, Washington, Maine, Washington, D.C., Maryland, Virginia, Hawaii, Wisconsin, Vermont, U.S. Virgin Islands, Democrats Abroad, Wyoming and Mississippi.
Those are the states won by Obama so far. Would any serious person suggest that these states are represented primarily by blacks, “ultra-liberals” and college students?
This article reminds me of electoral college analysis from May 2004 that showed solid evidence of a John Kerry blowout. Democrats wanted to believe this so badly that they ignored all evidence to the contrary. We all know how that worked out.
People see what they want to see.
Obama’s chicago gang as well as their candidate are seeing dead people all over again…but only a few willbw able to vote!
Jennifer Rubin Is Wrong:
Are you really trying to suggest that Obama can “win” the states you list?
Of non “blue” states, in a general election he MIGHT win Illinois, Hawaii and “Americans Abroad.”
And as an Illinoisan, I wouldn’t even give him Illinois. He’s giving this state a black eye with his racist associations.
ajmalkov: “Are you really trying to suggest that Obama can “win” the states you list?”
No. I did not suggest that. I stated that Rubin’s understanding of Obama’s base is limited to his primary performance and can’t be used to measure his potential in the general election.
In fact the point of my post was that many of Obama’s states are NOT dominated by members of his supposed young, black “elitist” base.
Rubin is simply repeating Hillary’s failed argument. I’m not sure why she even wrote this column.
Party primaries and general elections are two completely different ballgames. There is no valid comparison.
Of course Barry Hussein is a Marxist. But that is certainly not going to deter blacks from voting for him at better than a 90% clip in Nov. After all, blacks have been voting for Marxists for a very long time. It is the white vote that will sink the Messiabamas ship. We evil racists are not quite so willing to give up our rights to Big Brother for a monthly check, or a vapid use of the words change and hope. Even the 24/7 campaigning of the MSM will not give the White House to an utterly empty and dangerously incompetent suit like Barry Hussein. The left will just have to wait until they’ve succeeded in doing away with talk radio and the internet. Only the next Cronkite era media monopoly will give them the ammo needed to fool everybody again.
“…we are not only left with the least worst choice.”
Yes we are. If you think otherwise, you are just as delusional as the Obamamites. Any vote for a 3rd party candidate is the same as a vote for Ohhhh…..BAMA.
Remember how we got Billery in the first place. All those Perot voters did the trick for Slick Willie. I know, I was one of them. Learn from my error.
You might as well just go ahead and vote for Ohhhh….BAMA as for Barr or any of the other nutbags. I call it weasel voting.
Be a good American. Vote against the candidate you hate the most.
Rubin is simply repeating Hillary’s failed argument. I’m not sure why she even wrote this column.
Because it’s NOT a failed argument. You wish it to fail and are projecting.
Party primaries and general elections are two completely different ballgames. There is no valid comparison.
Actually there is. Go back to your Pyle and White “Fundamentals of Accounting”. Turn to the chapter on ‘Cost accounting’ (chapter 7, IIRC. It has been several decades). ANY two things can be compared. On a cost-per-unit (vote) basis if nothing else. Now using those numbers as a means of projecting future votes is completely bogus. But that is true of ANY statistical calculation used to predict human actions. Statistics DON’T predict outcomes, they predict trends. Look it up, Pyle and White again.
ALL the trends are going against Ohhh…BAMA in the general election. That is why I hope he can bluff Billery into quitting. I don’t think he will, but all a paleo-conservative can do in todays environment is hope.
Nobody to give money to, nobody to vote for. All I can do is vote against a candidate. That will be either the half black Marxist or the trailer trash in the pink tent suit, depending on which one the democratic party throws up.
How come Obama is leading in the polls? Jennifer do you hate or fear shwartzs? Try listening to what Obama has to say – you might be surprised if you reviewed his speeches in FLINT & DETROIT. I watch all speeches diligently, McCain is losing relevance with each new thing he says. What you say can only be correct if you ignore the enthusiasm for Obama– REB SHLOMO