Obama Will Never Be Bill Clinton (Carter? Maybe)
Yet Bill Clinton is now ubiquitous, and offshoots of the very same mainstream media that spent the 1990s laying cover for Clinton’s liaisons are openly bragging that Obama might be a womanizer as well. Is this how desperate they are to make Obama appear “Clintonesque”? Asylum’s Brian Fairbanks recently wrote a piece that asked: “Bill Clinton vs. Barack Obama — Who Scores the Best Groupies?”
Predictably, the comparison between the quality of “groupies” was just as forced as all the other comparisons of Obama and Clinton. And even if the current reports concerning Obama’s alleged affair with Vera Baker prove true, “getting lucky” with one impressionable campaign aide does not begin to stack up with the many women Clinton secretly met or openly groped.
Although Clinton was impeached, he survived six more years in office beyond 1994 because he bowed (somewhat) to the will of the American people and compromised with Republicans — even to the point of signing off on central portions of their agenda. But the great and powerful Obama saves all his compromises for our military enemies and all his bows for tyrants and figureheads of foreign countries.
Obama and his minions can push the Clinton comparisons all they want, but they’ll only be apt for one day this November.
What? No wonder Americans have this mess on their hands. Some who voted having perhaps even assessed the values of the various candidates, rather than on the air-brushed , siss-boom-bah Media visual/audio profiles. And considered, as far as possible from the public information their backgrounds, personal and political. This love affair with Bill Clinton is symptomatic precursor of suicidal national pathology. HOW did he get a second term of office when it was public knowledge that he is (and his wife a close – second) a pathological liar and sociopath with the prime purpose of display of contempt and subversion of the American System of Government. Egregious even on the standards of politicians. And Americans think he’s the greatest, a “real charmer”. And what are supposedly sensible persons look back nostalgically on his administration. Administration in which the shoots from the seeds planted by the “revolutionaries of the 1960s” of this persent political situation in the US (AND the entire West) were pruned and fertilized for this poisonous blossoming.
I liked the Clinton years, the economy was growing and we had a President who listened to others. A President who loved this country and yes, reportedly loved women. A man who spoke well, with or without notes. A man who worked well with European leaders and who cared about Israel and worked hard to broker a permanent peace deal.
I never think of WJC and BHO together, except how far the Obama people went to paint the former president a racist. When I disagreed with President Clinton I always felt he was still my president. The current guy, no way. He does not share my values and I’m not sure he loves this country.
excellent comment…I agree…
The similarities between Obama and Carter and not striking in detail but in the way both President’s seem overwhelmed by the office itself. Carter failed at trying to avoid politics and lead from his moral conscience, Obama is failing by coming from a background of viewing the world through ethno-centrism. There are just a few more things going on in the world than the position of black Americans. Selecting cabinet positions by gender and race is a bankrupt back massage and nothing else. Allowing his own party and it’s shills such as at MSNBC, where there are no dissenting voices on air, to subvert and circumvent language in order to demonize whites who disaree with him with an argument of ‘it’s just racism’ is straight out of the pages of “1984″ and goes beyond mere moral bankruptcy and into debauchery. The comments of Obama’s wife about her pride in America before the election, Holder’s bludgeoning the public about it’s cowardness avoiding race issues and Obama’s long tenure at the eminently racist Trinity church all speak to Obama’s world views and inability to see the world from the point of view of a pragmatic rationalist; without race as a foundation in which to view a problem, Obama is like a deer in the headlights. Malcolm X once had this problem and solved it by solving his own parochialism.
Clinton & Carter were at the very least, patriots; Obama should be put on trial for treason!
David P – While I understand your point, how can you refer to Clinton or Carter as a patriot? Clinton let those brave men in Somalia die without any problem whatsoever and Carter blamed the American people for every problem he created. Carter has spent the time since his presidency criticizing and then apologizing for America’s greatness.
Jason, you’re wrong. Clinton didn’t “let” soldiers die “without any problem at all”: Somalia was a disaster but there are many, many similar disasters for which other presidents aren’t personally condemned. Carter has become very anti-American, it’s fair to call it that directly, but remember that he served admirably in the navy for many years.
Clinton was a true centrist who took difficult stands on social issues that he could have left alone — stands that alienated him deeply from the progressive base. Whatever else he was, he was the only president in recent memory who took on the third rail of welfare entitlement (something even conservatives prefer to avoid) and in the process unambiguously improved the lives of millions of children by asking more of their mothers (it would have been nice to demand something of the fathers, but, oh well, nobody in Washington would have permitted THAT).
Obama is, among other things, no Bill Clinton.
The only reason why Clinton took “stands” on the social issues and welfare reform was because the Republicans in congress kept sending him bills. When it became obvious that the political damage from vetoing these bills was greater then the damage from signing them, he stoped vetoing them, and started signing them.
In any other country but the USA Carter could have been locked up for some of the boneheaded actions he took as POTUS. Failing to back the Shah of Iran brought about the birth of the first islamic nation with a hostage crisis hot on it’s heels that he couldn’t seem to fathom a way out of. Not that he could fathom his way out of a wet paper bag. His clandestine actions (CIA) in Afghanistan caused great concern with the USSR – their response was to invade that country – Carter’s response? Ban the US from the Moscow Olympics in 1980. Those two actions on their own are what has caused most of the trouble in the middle east today. What would have happened if the Ayatollah Khomeini had never left Paris? Or what would have happened had Carter never been elected? A better world methinks. Carter certainly could have asked the French not to let him go. Instead he did nothing. My guess is he welcomed Khomeini’s going to Iran.
Obama has a long way to go to match Carter’s record – but he is well on his way. Carter was and still is as feckless as any president we’ve ever had.
As for Clinton – I voted for him – twice. Big mistake? Maybe. I was not enthralled by the elderly Bush but wasn’t exactly happy over Clinton – and don’t get me started on Dole – he’s never impressed me. As it turns out Clinton’s hands were tied by the Republican Congress and for the most part things turned out pretty good.
Vote for the lessor of two evils? I guess thats what I did. I’ve since repented – I voted for Bush – twice.
My political Karma is once again in balance.
Well at least they are making progress, the Obama worshipping media was comparing him to Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy, Jesus Christ and God almighty when he had barely served a day in office. But the comparison to Clinton falls short, Bill Clinton governed a center-right state and at least was able to deal with Republicans when he needed to. Obama shows no such political savvy, he is an ultra-far left ideologue who has spent his entire life in a bubble surrounded by like-minded radicals. He has no more experience outside his little hard left world than a fish has out of water.
Clinton was mafioso-esque, while Obama is just stupid. That means he is Carters mirror image.
I didn’t like Clinton in any way, but he was one of the smoothest politicians ever. And the threat he posed to our country consisted in what he didn’t do, whereas the threat Obama poses consists in what he will do.
Obama is a talk, no game. He’ll never be Bill Clinton but he’ll always believe he was.
Obama to be an even worse president than Carter, which is something I didn’t think possible. And I never thought I’d say it, but I miss Bill Clinton.
Newt Gingrich has been making a habit of giving detailed descriptions of the Obama/Carter comparison – albeit with openly selfish motives. Policy wise it’s easy to digest but it only goes so far.
For one, Obama remains ‘popular.’ Despite falling quickly from his 70% approvial perch, he’s landed at the lower end of respectable for some time – 45% -50%. While Newt points out that Jimmy Carter was likewise ‘ok but just ok’ as far as his first two years of office, there are striking differences.
(Personally I think one thing accounts for this w/Obama – the stock market rebound. Once 401K’s stopped evaporating & some financial order was restored it became a lot easier for most to stop wanting his scalp)
For one, Jimmy Carter was always grating – what popularity he ever enjoyed was in direct contrast with the tumult following Nixon & Watergate. Following the evil Richard the Jemmie seemed relatively harmless. Secondly are the cronies Carter brought with him. While selling themselves as ultimate outsiders – many southerner’s as well – by the ’78 midterms they had completely discredited themselves as bumbling amateurs. For years Carter apolgists have insisted his was a presidency victimized by circumstances; the ravages of inflation; Three Mile Island; the Hostage crises – all viewed as tragic episodes outside of his or anyone’s control.
WEll if you buy that then the leap of faith on O is an easy fall off a cliff.
After all – the Reagan years right through Bush’s 1st term – (YES INCLUDING Clinton!) – on the whole produced resounding & uplifting growth by any measure. And those succesful years completley repudiates any defense of Carters Statist bunk.
I agree w/3. James May – the revelation between the former Gov & the momentary prior Senator – is that both were/are overwhelmed by the responsiblities & obligations of the office.
Newt is certainly right, and the Tea Party movement has zeroed in on as much; Obama’s policies are disaster in the making – every bit a revanchist march back in time to Carterism.
But the cast Obama has compiled – from his Ivy League days right through to his Chicago confidants – is very different from the bumbling hillbillies Carter brought to Washington. Arnie Duncan, Valerie Jarret, Rahm, Gibbs, Larry Summers, Hillary…name whoever you like…these ARE CONSUMATE INSIDERS…even the most incompetent such as Napolitano, Duncan & Holder ….are seasoned bureaucrates.
They as a crew are much more dangerous in their progressive intentions than anything Carter assembled; dedicated to managing America’s decline in the name of world peace & saving the planet.
Worse is that O-man has had Pelosi running a congressional majority – something Carter never had. And while Obama remains convinced he has Clinton’s touch as far as charmer in cheif, the Health Care debacle refutes that misnomer completely. Increasingly – be it the BP oil disaster or the Arizona immigration insurgency – even when he’s placed in the friendly confines of a planted audience full of admirers – he’s resorting to lecturing while hectoring. In this regard he started out a close second to Clinton as a brilliant campaigner, but has fallen in Carters direction as an overmatched leader once in the House.
It remains to be seen if he will grow into the ultimate annoying clown that Jimmy was after 3 Mile fiasco.
In any event, no mid-term elections have ever been more important in my lifetime. If conservatives can’t at least take back the house (and hopefully the Senate as well) – then the chances this rube gets re-elected shoots up dramatically.
And if he gets two terms? American capitalism will be a ravaged empty refelction of it’s former greatness at least for a lifetime – if not forever.
Carter never had congressional majorities? That’s not the way I remember it.
He came into office with some of the biggest majorities seen to that time.
Clinton’s presidency was very likely saved by Newt Gingrich. If this November we actually have a replay of 1994, you would never hear Obama say: the era of big government is over. He doesn’t have the capacity to change. Rather than accept the will of the people, he will blame us for not supporting him. Be prepared for at least two more years of scolding from the preacher in chief. Then the American people will get to decide if they like being yelled at and told how to eat and sleep and when they’ve earned “enough” money. If they do, then they deserve four more years of BHO.
It would be more accurate to say that Clinton’s presidency was saved by the MSM.
Remember the “Gingrich that stole Christmas” cover?
Just heard Dr. Hawkins on the G. Gordan Liddy show discussing this article. Good article, good interview.
Obama couldn’t tie Clinton’s shoe – period.
I’m not sure he can tie his own shoe.
Would you really want to put yourself physically in that position?
I wonder if Obama is already preparing a post-presidential anti-Israel screed like Carter’s “Peace not Apartheid.” Obama has proven himself to be a slick politician, but his policy of “change” and “hope” is just more of the same statist endless butter churning that never produces the wealth and equality it promises.
Humorous cartoon showing our “Founding, Fondling, and Fumbling Fathers” at http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/presidential-quiz/ Hint: Both Obama and Carter belong in the Fumbling section.
President Carter and his Fed Chef (or was it Chief?) Volker had us all afraid of what would happen the next day. Ultra high interest rates, increasing unemployment, falling investments, the drum beat that we were no longer worthy of being a world leading country and to reinforce that a tiny country took our embassy and we froze like a deer in the headlights. Now we have President Obama bowing and apologizing to everyone he meets, playing the race card everytime you turn around with cops, states and a huge majority that disapprove, unemployment rising, investments falling, and interest rates? Well laddy, that is the big surprise coming soon.