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		<title>By: Obama gets the Democratic nomination &#171; Tea and Politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama gets the Democratic nomination &#171; Tea and Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bigotry that deeply divides the public to be elected the first black president?   Pajamas Media has also written about this:  And part of that decision will certainly be questions surrounding the one man in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kaleokualoha</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-vs-mccain-the-gloves-come-off/#comment-60415</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaleokualoha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cliff Kincaid and his colleagues have accused Frank Marshall Davis (1905-1987) of being a Stalinist, a lifetime member of the Communist Party, and “Obama’s Communist Mentor.”  Kincaid heads “Accuracy In Media” (A.I.M.), an organization dedicated to “fairness, balance and accuracy in news reporting.”  Kincaid and his colleagues are all honorable men.

Having asked Kincaid to substantiate some of his accusations, and having received no reply, one can only conclude that Kincaid must be preoccupied with more important questions, because Kincaid is an honorable man.

Although the ironically named “Accuracy In Media” has yet to substantiate that Davis actually mentored Obama (among other claims), such a relationship could have provided a bi-racial teenager with the key to success in mainstream America.  To minimize criticism and maximize their potential, bi-racial African-Americans must walk a narrow identity path between group expectations.  Davis was uniquely qualified to show the way.  He may have significantly facilitated Obama’s vision of an inclusive society.

Davis may have advised Obama that to succeed in mainstream America, African-Americans must consider worst-case scenarios without wearing a chip on their shoulders, even though this normally requires judgment borne through actual experience.  They must learn to give others (such as Cliff Kincaid) the benefit of the doubt.  Success within mainstream America requires that abusive behavior should be attributed to bias only when there is no other plausible explanation.

Davis’ crusty radicalism may have perfectly counterbalanced Hawaii’s laid-back lifestyle for an African-American teenager destined for greatness.   He provided coherent insight on African-American history, politics, and culture vis-à-vis mainstream America.  Obama’s grandfather may not have recognized the true value of his gift.

Davis recognized the folly of cultural nationalism, including Black Separatist movements, long before meeting Obama.  He supported a fully integrated mixed economy, because neither laissez–faire capitalism nor Marxist authoritarianism enable the greatest benefit for the greatest number.  He also had a libertarian streak that may have made Ron Paul proud.

As an honorable man, Kincaid must be unaware that by the 1970’s, the twin forces of Hawaiian and hippie cultures had mellowed Davis to the point that “Stalinist” charges are especially absurd.  By the early 1970’s, Davis had become a virtual teddy bear, a permanent fixture of the Koa Cottages in the “Waikiki Jungle,” noted for its counterculture residents.  Davis was known as a kindly old man, usually sitting on his porch a few steps from Kuhio Avenue, waving at all that passed.  Although he had little money, he was always willing to share with those in deeper need.

While he was justifiably bitter over the Jim Crow racism of his youth, recent decades made Davis quite optimistic regarding race relations.   He strongly supported the nonviolent strategy of Dr. King, and believed that all mankind should be judged by the content of their character.  He rejected militant African-American groups as counterproductive.

Kincaid and his honorable colleagues must also be unaware that although Davis shared King’s opposition to American intervention in Vietnam, he did not oppose his son’s decision to join the Air Force in 1968.  His son eventually retired as an Air Force Intelligence Officer after 24 years of service, with full TS/SCI (SI/TK/G/B) access.  As an honorable man, this fact alone should mitigate any concerns about “Obama’s Marxist Mentor.”

As an honorable man, Cliff Kincaid must also be unaware that his portrayal of a raving Stalinist could not be further from the truth.  Davis deeply loved the United States, despite his occasional flirtation with radical ideology.  He recognized, perhaps belatedly, that the United States offers a unique combination of economic opportunity and personal freedom, thus providing sufficient strength and moral authority to champion human rights worldwide.  If he HAD been so lucky, Barack Obama could not have found a finer mentor anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cliff Kincaid and his colleagues have accused Frank Marshall Davis (1905-1987) of being a Stalinist, a lifetime member of the Communist Party, and “Obama’s Communist Mentor.”  Kincaid heads “Accuracy In Media” (A.I.M.), an organization dedicated to “fairness, balance and accuracy in news reporting.”  Kincaid and his colleagues are all honorable men.</p>
<p>Having asked Kincaid to substantiate some of his accusations, and having received no reply, one can only conclude that Kincaid must be preoccupied with more important questions, because Kincaid is an honorable man.</p>
<p>Although the ironically named “Accuracy In Media” has yet to substantiate that Davis actually mentored Obama (among other claims), such a relationship could have provided a bi-racial teenager with the key to success in mainstream America.  To minimize criticism and maximize their potential, bi-racial African-Americans must walk a narrow identity path between group expectations.  Davis was uniquely qualified to show the way.  He may have significantly facilitated Obama’s vision of an inclusive society.</p>
<p>Davis may have advised Obama that to succeed in mainstream America, African-Americans must consider worst-case scenarios without wearing a chip on their shoulders, even though this normally requires judgment borne through actual experience.  They must learn to give others (such as Cliff Kincaid) the benefit of the doubt.  Success within mainstream America requires that abusive behavior should be attributed to bias only when there is no other plausible explanation.</p>
<p>Davis’ crusty radicalism may have perfectly counterbalanced Hawaii’s laid-back lifestyle for an African-American teenager destined for greatness.   He provided coherent insight on African-American history, politics, and culture vis-à-vis mainstream America.  Obama’s grandfather may not have recognized the true value of his gift.</p>
<p>Davis recognized the folly of cultural nationalism, including Black Separatist movements, long before meeting Obama.  He supported a fully integrated mixed economy, because neither laissez–faire capitalism nor Marxist authoritarianism enable the greatest benefit for the greatest number.  He also had a libertarian streak that may have made Ron Paul proud.</p>
<p>As an honorable man, Kincaid must be unaware that by the 1970’s, the twin forces of Hawaiian and hippie cultures had mellowed Davis to the point that “Stalinist” charges are especially absurd.  By the early 1970’s, Davis had become a virtual teddy bear, a permanent fixture of the Koa Cottages in the “Waikiki Jungle,” noted for its counterculture residents.  Davis was known as a kindly old man, usually sitting on his porch a few steps from Kuhio Avenue, waving at all that passed.  Although he had little money, he was always willing to share with those in deeper need.</p>
<p>While he was justifiably bitter over the Jim Crow racism of his youth, recent decades made Davis quite optimistic regarding race relations.   He strongly supported the nonviolent strategy of Dr. King, and believed that all mankind should be judged by the content of their character.  He rejected militant African-American groups as counterproductive.</p>
<p>Kincaid and his honorable colleagues must also be unaware that although Davis shared King’s opposition to American intervention in Vietnam, he did not oppose his son’s decision to join the Air Force in 1968.  His son eventually retired as an Air Force Intelligence Officer after 24 years of service, with full TS/SCI (SI/TK/G/B) access.  As an honorable man, this fact alone should mitigate any concerns about “Obama’s Marxist Mentor.”</p>
<p>As an honorable man, Cliff Kincaid must also be unaware that his portrayal of a raving Stalinist could not be further from the truth.  Davis deeply loved the United States, despite his occasional flirtation with radical ideology.  He recognized, perhaps belatedly, that the United States offers a unique combination of economic opportunity and personal freedom, thus providing sufficient strength and moral authority to champion human rights worldwide.  If he HAD been so lucky, Barack Obama could not have found a finer mentor anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-vs-mccain-the-gloves-come-off/#comment-57308</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DEAN,like the blog i was  undecided but  when i read your  blog  very  good info made  my  choice  on who to  vote  for MCcain
need  to spread it  around</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DEAN,like the blog i was  undecided but  when i read your  blog  very  good info made  my  choice  on who to  vote  for MCcain<br />
need  to spread it  around</p>
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		<title>By: John Samford</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-vs-mccain-the-gloves-come-off/#comment-55028</link>
		<dc:creator>John Samford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 06:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean, in my 16 years surfing the web, I have never read a better post.  If there was a Hall of Fame for Bloggers, that post would make you a shoe-in.  First ballot candidate.
I&#039;m going to steal it and spread it as far and as wide as I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean, in my 16 years surfing the web, I have never read a better post.  If there was a Hall of Fame for Bloggers, that post would make you a shoe-in.  First ballot candidate.<br />
I&#8217;m going to steal it and spread it as far and as wide as I can.</p>
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		<title>By: John Samford</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-vs-mccain-the-gloves-come-off/#comment-54934</link>
		<dc:creator>John Samford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;McCain will seek to define Obama as a man of pretty words but a frightening far left agenda. He will be helped in this by his surrogates constantly alluding to the radicals that dot Obama’s past. Jeremiah Wright, Father Pfleger, William Ayers and others will become very familiar to Americans before election day.&quot;

No need to &quot;define&quot;.  Just point out the facts.
Rick it looks like you swallowed.
Another wanna-be journalist genuflects to the wanna-be President.
So tell me a fable.  You being an editor and all.  Is PJ media joining the MSM in the tank?  Are you all going to be happy little sycophants together, basking in your shared moments of syncope?  
I suppose that is only natural, since you and Chris Matthews share the great hair, you should share the leg tingle thingie also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;McCain will seek to define Obama as a man of pretty words but a frightening far left agenda. He will be helped in this by his surrogates constantly alluding to the radicals that dot Obama’s past. Jeremiah Wright, Father Pfleger, William Ayers and others will become very familiar to Americans before election day.&#8221;</p>
<p>No need to &#8220;define&#8221;.  Just point out the facts.<br />
Rick it looks like you swallowed.<br />
Another wanna-be journalist genuflects to the wanna-be President.<br />
So tell me a fable.  You being an editor and all.  Is PJ media joining the MSM in the tank?  Are you all going to be happy little sycophants together, basking in your shared moments of syncope?<br />
I suppose that is only natural, since you and Chris Matthews share the great hair, you should share the leg tingle thingie also.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Kean</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-vs-mccain-the-gloves-come-off/#comment-54455</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Kean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20 years.  20 years.  And he says he didn&#039;t hear anything too weird, but lately some remarks surprised him?  It wasn&#039;t the pastor he knew?  

Who the heck did he know?  Who the heck is he kidding?

He lied.  Barry lied.  $20,000 one year, $26,000 the next. 

When his mentor was damning my country, Barry was shaking his fist above his head saying, &#039;Right on, brother!&#039;.  Or maybe he was just thinking it.  Or maybe he was just enjoying it.  

I think he&#039;s lying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20 years.  20 years.  And he says he didn&#8217;t hear anything too weird, but lately some remarks surprised him?  It wasn&#8217;t the pastor he knew?  </p>
<p>Who the heck did he know?  Who the heck is he kidding?</p>
<p>He lied.  Barry lied.  $20,000 one year, $26,000 the next. </p>
<p>When his mentor was damning my country, Barry was shaking his fist above his head saying, &#8216;Right on, brother!&#8217;.  Or maybe he was just thinking it.  Or maybe he was just enjoying it.  </p>
<p>I think he&#8217;s lying.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra M</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-vs-mccain-the-gloves-come-off/#comment-54366</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandra M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean. Thank you for all the background on Obama and his lies.  I will send to my online friends and tell them to do likewise.

Soooooo, Obama&#039;s almost half Arab, has an Arab name -- not swahili as he says and did study in a madrassa. 

How little we know about this man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean. Thank you for all the background on Obama and his lies.  I will send to my online friends and tell them to do likewise.</p>
<p>Soooooo, Obama&#8217;s almost half Arab, has an Arab name &#8212; not swahili as he says and did study in a madrassa. </p>
<p>How little we know about this man.</p>
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		<title>By: Misanthropicus</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-vs-mccain-the-gloves-come-off/#comment-54236</link>
		<dc:creator>Misanthropicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick Moran: &quot;[...] the victory of this talented, passionate, brilliant man whose life story is perhaps even more incredible than his singular achievement in winning the nomination should be a source of enormous pride for all Americans. [...]&quot;

Ricky, I take this as a very subtle irony - otherwise you halucinate and you need medical attention. &quot;Brilliant?&quot; Wow! Hussein&#039;s an empty jacket, my friend - and you had the opportunity to see this during the debates with Hillary. Hope, we&#039;re the ones we&#039;ve been waiting for, change in which we can believe (as opposite to change in which we can&#039;t believe in?)
What else? Even the liberals contend that it&#039;s the time for him to come with something more substantial!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick Moran: &#8220;[...] the victory of this talented, passionate, brilliant man whose life story is perhaps even more incredible than his singular achievement in winning the nomination should be a source of enormous pride for all Americans. [...]&#8221;</p>
<p>Ricky, I take this as a very subtle irony &#8211; otherwise you halucinate and you need medical attention. &#8220;Brilliant?&#8221; Wow! Hussein&#8217;s an empty jacket, my friend &#8211; and you had the opportunity to see this during the debates with Hillary. Hope, we&#8217;re the ones we&#8217;ve been waiting for, change in which we can believe (as opposite to change in which we can&#8217;t believe in?)<br />
What else? Even the liberals contend that it&#8217;s the time for him to come with something more substantial!</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mccain is an ok speaker, George Bush was certainly worse. Obama is ceraintly more charismatic than Kerry, but we&#039;ve all seen how Clinton used it against him. 

Can John Mccain play the more knowldegeable elder whose measured, &quot;boring&quot; reasoning counters Obama&#039;s impassioned rhetoric in the debate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mccain is an ok speaker, George Bush was certainly worse. Obama is ceraintly more charismatic than Kerry, but we&#8217;ve all seen how Clinton used it against him. </p>
<p>Can John Mccain play the more knowldegeable elder whose measured, &#8220;boring&#8221; reasoning counters Obama&#8217;s impassioned rhetoric in the debate?</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I wonder if all the harping and snide comments about McCain&#039;s age won&#039;t backfire.

I&#039;m  only 2 years older than Obama, but I am finding myself becoming offended by young Dems who breezily call McCain &quot;an old coot&quot; &quot;senile&quot; and so on.

Those young people are forgetting that there are an awful lot of &quot;senile old coots&quot; out there and they vote in larger numbers than the under 25&#039;s do. Yes, this country worships youth, but the truth is we ain&#039;t a nation of spring chickens anymore. An arrogant display of contempt for McCain&#039;s age and experience by cocky brats might seriously begin rubbing seniors the wrong way. If you&#039;re a fit and active 68 year old, do you want to hear that 70 year old McCain is ready for the glue factory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I wonder if all the harping and snide comments about McCain&#8217;s age won&#8217;t backfire.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m  only 2 years older than Obama, but I am finding myself becoming offended by young Dems who breezily call McCain &#8220;an old coot&#8221; &#8220;senile&#8221; and so on.</p>
<p>Those young people are forgetting that there are an awful lot of &#8220;senile old coots&#8221; out there and they vote in larger numbers than the under 25&#8242;s do. Yes, this country worships youth, but the truth is we ain&#8217;t a nation of spring chickens anymore. An arrogant display of contempt for McCain&#8217;s age and experience by cocky brats might seriously begin rubbing seniors the wrong way. If you&#8217;re a fit and active 68 year old, do you want to hear that 70 year old McCain is ready for the glue factory?</p>
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