Moogie: “Did I say he never vetoed anything? No I did not say that.”

OOMO: Actually, yes you did say that, here it is . . . “However, under Bush, the Democratic congress in power from 2006-2008 was able to spend recklessly. He had the power to veto, but didn’t.”

Moogie: “Second, did I not say he, along with the Republicans did quite a bit of spending? Yes, I did say that.”

OOMO: Actually, no, you didn’t say that. You made only one reference to Republicans. Here it is . . . “The bulk of (George Soros’s) political contributions go the Democratic party, although there are also Republicans who have accepted his support.” No mention whatsoever of Republicans contributing to profligate spending.

Moogie: “Third, I saw that same statistic you quote on Wikipedia.”

OOMO: That may be. I didn’t go there to get my information, but apparently you did. That’s fine by me. But if as you imply you distrust Wikipedia, you should consider using some other source.

Now, here’s the really important part for you to understand, Moogie . . . your behavior in your posts is precisely the reason the Republicans and conservatives have lost all respect in this country. You’re unwilling to accept responsibility and unable to identify any connection between principle and action. And when confronted with these truths, you just make sh*t up. Don’t get me wrong, I love it when you people behave this way . . . it’s like watching a chain gang trading shovels and picks . . . shunned from decent society for your shameful and illicit deeds . . . shackled together and swinging picks and shovels you keep on digging even though you have nothing to find and nowhere to go.

That’s how it is and that’s how it’s done, Moogie.

Hey, it’s understandable. The Big Lie works because it’s so….Big. It’s very outrageousness is what make it hard to give any credence to.

What got me into it, was that I had to get a DMV ID card for my child, whose birth cert looks a lot like a car title in my state.

While I was getting my child’s, I saw my own, from the mid-1960′s, and it looks nothing like the PC word-processor generated document image that Obama has bruited as being his own.

MY Vault Birth Cert is a photographic reproduction of the original, with a raised seal, and you can tell that some clerk rolled the original into a typewriter and manually entered the particulars.

Like I said, it would be no big deal for the One to produce his vault copy…the rest of us have to do it occasionally, but the way he’s playing lawyer games is what keeps us all barking up that particular tree.

Will Obama bring back the Misery Index? I think it’s only a matter of time before Obama starts blaming the public for his own mistakes when things don’t go quite as the little dictator plans.

The Democrats will eventually repudiate Obama for fear of not getting re-elected save for the extreme liberal Socialists who want absolute power…

I just can’t agree with you on the birth certificate question. I’ve read all the websites, and I just can’t find anything in it that doesn’t smell like classic conspiracy theory boilerplate.

Ah, yes…the dynamiting of the levees in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina, and lest we forget:

“George Bush doesn’t care about Black people”

Which was Mike Moore’s finest on-camera moment…ever.(And all he had to do was stand there looking mortified).

One quibble:

“(Rosie O’Donnell is a far more mainstream Progressive than any of the birth certificate crowd are mainstream Conservatives).”

I would dearly like to see the vault copy of Barak Obama’s Birth Certificate, and not the computer-generated abstract he posted on his website.

It would be such a small thing for him, the fee is apparently nominal…like $12.00 bucks, which I’m SURE he can borrow from his White Master George Soros.

Unless of course, he’s hiding something…in which case all his obfuscatory lawyer machinations make perfect sense.

Such a simple solution, but he refuses to do what millions of Americans who apply for a lousy state driver’s license or US passport have to comply with.

“Over 60 % of Americans approve the job the President is doing and approve of the steps he is taking to confront the economic crisis..”

I would not hang onto that raft too long, Stevie Pee, it’s sinking faster than a lead Mae West. Down 18 points in two months; shortest new prez honeymoon in history. Check RCP and Rasmussen and note how your golden boy’s favorability rating and spread has evaporated because people realize he is the leader of the gang that couldn’t shoot straight.

However, the Left has totally mainstreamed their conspiracy theories. They have allowed 9/11 theories to flourish without condemning them (Rosie O’Donnell is a far more mainstream Progressive than any of the birth certificate crowd are mainstream Conservatives). There have even been Democratic 9/11 conspiracy believers IN CONGRESS!

And there are other conspiracy theories that are so deeply entrenched on the Left that they have entered the popular consciousness and aren’t even being questioned at all. For example: the “Bush Lied” crowd. He most certainly did not. Every western intelligence agency and the United Nations itself had concluded that Saddam had WMD again (need I stress the word AGAIN? the fact that he had used them before was its own evidence). On this one I will refer you to a very good article from Norman Podhoretz. http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007540

And yet the chorus continues, and some of these people are going to come back and attack me for even saying that at all here. I myself always had reservations about Bush, but truth matters to me far more than politics.

The Left introduced to the world the very roots of the modern conspiracy theory: It was they that succumbed to the Marxist interpretations of culture, who elevated feelings above reason, and who embraced the post-modern conceit that truth is whatever you want it to be.

Any right-wing conspiracy theory is just stupid people imitating the true masters of the art. The Leftists are so far gone they don’t know night from day anymore.

So now let’s knock of the same old tired crap of “Bush did it.” Yes, he did. He spent way too much, with the approval of Congress, both Republicans and Democrats. His last two years – when the Dems were in power – marked increased spending. I’m sure there’s some kind of statistical data on Wikipedia that you can look up.

Now, go look up George Soros. Go look up the Cloward-Piven Strategy. Go look up Saul Alinsky. Go look up Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Go look up Tony Rezko. Go look up Bill Ayers. Go look up Frank Marshall Davis. Go look up Rashid Khalidi. Go look up Hatem El-Hady. Don’t use Wikipedia this time. Use multiple objective sources, as it’s obvious you get all of your information from NPR.