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Obama Uses ‘Politics of Fear’ He Once Criticized

Goodbye, grim warnings about terrorism. Hello, grim warnings about the economy.

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Ryan Mauro

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April 2, 2009 - 12:00 am
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President Obama frequently railed against the Bush-era “politics of fear” on the campaign trail. In his inaugural address, he said, “We got here because we have chosen hope over fear.” President Obama also earlier made the comment in March 2008 that “we need to break the politics of fear that uses 9/11 to scare up votes.” This offensive, below-the-belt criticism insinuated that his opposition didn’t see 9/11 in the context of blood and misery, but in the context of check marks next to their names on Election Day.

But he has had no trouble issuing fear-inducing warnings himself. President Obama has simply exchanged his predecessor’s fear-inducing rhetoric on national security for fear-inducing rhetoric on the economy. When warning what would happen if his stimulus package was not passed, President Obama said that the economy would suffer a “catastrophe” and that “our nation will sink deeper into a crisis that, at some point, we may not be able to reverse.”

Being lectured by President Obama on rejecting the “politics of fear” is about as valuable as receiving a lecture from Chris Brown on having patience with women. This hypocrisy has transformed his past statements into prepackaged attack ads, examples of the type of doublespeak that The Daily Show and The Colbert Report should (but won’t) lampoon.

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Apparently not viewing political discourse influenced by overseas threats as legitimate, the Obama administration is introducing a new, meaningless, vague lexicon to discuss its equally meaningless and vague foreign policy strategy. The guiding philosophy of the administration appears to be that its primary concern is threat-causing fears and not fear-causing threats.

His statement in May 2008 best illustrates this philosophy: “There are rarely purely ideological movements out there. We can encourage actors to think in practical and not ideological terms. We can strengthen those elements that are making practical calculations.” There’s a part of everyone’s brain that responds to the diplomacy of meeting half way, he seems to believe. In the administration’s mind, the terms “moderate” and “Taliban” are not mutually exclusive.

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62 Comments, 62 Threads

  1. 1. ashok

    You’re absolutely right that words matter, and that the President is using rhetoric which conjures up fear where he shouldn’t be (the economy) and failing to use it appropriately where all of us should concerned (terrorism).

    I do think it is instructive to go back to what Presidential rhetoric once was:

    Analysis of the Gettysburg Address

    The most notable thing about the Gettysburg Address is its length: these words are meant to be taken to heart, to be remembered. That’s not happening with President Obama’s rhetoric. He’s talking too much, and so in order to avoid doublespeak, part of the strategy has to be to change terminology.

    Problem: when discussing issues where reasonable people can differ, and where analysis is necessary to obtain a proper end, changing terms creates a bias in favor of one position. In this case, we’re just going to pretend terrorism doesn’t exist, and call anyone who would pay attention to the fact that people the President released from Guantanamo Bay have already killed Americans “fascists.”

    I submit a lot of this can be fixed if the President talks less, and does his job. His job is to keep us safe, the economy is (*shudder*) more of a Congressional thing.

  2. i think that the case of obama now poses inequality in terms of how the political circle attack him. see, he just serves for a couple months. why not give him a chance?

  3. 3. Die Fledermaus

    Obama’s entire legislative and employment history is consistent with his statements and especially with his actions since his inauguration. He’s an extremely hard-left Chicago politician, whose core philosophies were strongly influenced by parties with a visceral hatred of America and the capitalism that drives it. He’s pushing the nation headlong at breakneck speed down the path to failed collectivism, both because it serves his purposes, and because he knows he won’t be able to do it once the nation awakens to the reality of what he’s attempting to do. Signs of that awakening are numerous.

    To the extent that Obama succeeds in implementing his plans, America will suffer economically and be rendered less capable of protecting and defending itself and its allies. To the extent that Obama succeeds, America treads the road to mediocrity instead of pursuing the greatness that has characterized its history, to the entire world’s detriment given America’s role in advancing democracy, security, and prosperity in it.

    Obama has already done more harm than any other president in that history. The sheer debt his proposals would place on future generations exceeds the combined debt of all of his predecessors in his office. Affording him any chance to do more is foolish beyond words. His efforts to damage the nation further need to be resisted and denounced at every opportunity.

  4. The politics of pragmatic appeasement, yes we have seen all of this before.

    Trying to nail jello to the wall is more satisfying than trying to pin down the Obama Administration on anything: war, economics, peace, enhancing our relations with friends and allies… whatever he wants: the ends justify the means. Just put a smiley face to it, save for the frowny face for those things that are a ‘crisis’, as if we haven’t seen those before, either.

    For such an intelligent guy, he sure isn’t all that smart. But then he can’t bother to learn history either, and so we get the doom of it all over again.

  5. 5. tanstaafl

    Obama’s fear factor was evident in the few months between the nomination and him being sworn in.

    Over and over and over, he emphasized and re-emphasized dire straits and horrible circumstances…”…all the better to prepare you for my plans”, as the Wolf said to Little Red Riding Hood.

    Yesterday, in London, he spewed a lot of the same old shtick, this time, quite literally, before the world he trotted out the same set of tired old clichés. Embarrassing.

    His administration has told states that refuse TARP money (see esp. South Carolina) that they’d better get on board, or else. This is an assault on federalism and states’ rights.

    A guy who swore to abate lobbying is using lobbyists, as we speak, to intimidate lawmakers who have reservations about his massive spending, and concomitant intrusive growth of government, agenda.

    The President Is ‘Keeping Score’

    Chicago on the Potomac, indeed.

  6. 6. karlstro1

    There is nothing, I mean nothing that Obaama says you can believe. He will lie to the American public and not bat an eyelash.

  7. 7. Войска ПВО

    ..it’s really quite simple: clowns that run their mouth too much do not, as a rule, know what they’re doing.

    This guy’s got the funny suit, oversized shoes, floppy stove-pipe hat, spinning bow tie, and squirting lapel flower; he and his friends are now in center ring exiting the tiny Yugo in droves, hitting each other with slap-sticks..

    ..and this performance will go on until January 2012.

  8. 8. MiamaMan

    Without being cynical, Joseph Marie de Maistre, famous French Diplomat and philosopher once wrote: “Every country has the government it deserves.”

    It was a matter of time before Obama, or an Obama-like, person, would get to power here. The pressure from below was too much, the apathy from above too telling. There is always a moment for the riff-raff (Gesindel), when and upsurge of the ordinary and the dull takes matters by storm.

    Welcome to ACORN Nation, where weird conspiracy theories (Bush caused 9/11; USA invented HIV virus to kill blacks, etc) are the truth and the norm, where a mob glorifies a cop killer, elections are not save anymore, and minorities of any kind, racial and other, threaten, bully, grab, confuse.

    Last time, when Carter came out of the miasma, a Reagan was needed. This time, given the entrenchment of the dark forces, not even that may suffice. The Sans-Culottes are lose, and the Night of Walpurgis is setting in, heralding the coming of Wotan the Berserker.

    Is there a Cromwell in sight?

  9. 9. Middleman

    Miamaman,
    Do these conspiracy theories also included dodgy birth certificates and fears a black president is out to Gary Indianize the nation?

    You complete contradict yourself by railing against conspiracy using conspiracy.

  10. 10. seven

    I am in fear. GM will become rapidly like Yugo a state run car builder. We should have fear. It should be in the right places. we should have fear of socialism. We should be afraid of deficits.

  11. 11. one of my own

    Curve Ball

  12. 12. RE

    karlstro1:

    I have to agree. Obama is 100% untrustworthy. He deserves no benefit in any doubt.

  13. 13. tanstaafl

    I submit a lot of this can be fixed if the President talks less, and does his job. His job is to keep us safe, the economy is (*shudder*) more of a Congressional thing.

    Staying in the Oral Office in DC, in that nasty, backbiting city of political insiders, is so boring…

    Especially for a (self-designated) grand ideas President, who has, literally, a gigantic pack of appointed underlings to handle the details. (“…no, I’m not going to actually read Pelosi’s trillion $ giveaway thing…reading is for peons”)

    (none of the peons read it either,& thus didn’t know that Geithner/Dodd and/or The Devil had slipped in that AIG bonus thing)

    Obama is already planning a lot of trips, including separate trips to China and Russia. On this trip, after London,he continues on to stops in France, Prague & Turkey.

    Bill Clinton was the most travelled President in US history. He may get trumped by the The (wandering) One™

  14. 14. MiamaMan

    Middleman:

    I mentioned, to make my point, 2 conspiracy theories well entrenched in the left, the loony fringe of it; namely, that 9/11 was created by Bush et al to have his war against Islam, and that the US Government created the HIV virus to decimate the blacks, in Africa and here.

    You would be surprised how many people believe this, some here, some abroad.

    However, these 2 conspiracy theories are not supported by any document, prove, research, but stand on their own lunacy.

    But what you mentioned; firstly, doubtful birth certificate from Obama, even though it could classify as a conspiracy theory, was based upon the hesitance to produce it, the back and forth from Hawaii, a certain murkiness during his stay in Indonesia, the other prove-of-birth document instead of a full birth certificate, so yes, it may be a conspiracy theory, but with a plausible background, which I still believe is wrong as I think Obama was born in Hawaii.

    Your second point is not a conspiracy theory, but a prejudice. To classify as conspiracy someone must state that Obama and others were, in Manchurian-candidate fashion, trying to do this, which I do not believe either as the reality is far worse.

    Alles klar?

  15. 15. Dave (the rational Dave)

    Whats sadly amusing is that there are lemmings on the left that either did not see this coming or they are just fine with it as long as there ideological agenda is being fulfilled.

    Soon this country will have 2 groups. Those with the government bureaucrats boot on their necks and government bureaucrats.

  16. 16. LynnS

    I don’t believe in conspiracies but:

    I think we are being prepared for a world governance.

    Obama was just testing the waters when he campaigned in Berlin.

  17. 17. Paul from Hamburg

    MiddleMan:

    If you are going to comment on the posts made by others, read them first, in their entirety. You accuse MiamaMan of “using conspiracy” but he does nothing of the sort. He didn’t mention birth certificates or threats to “Gary Indianize the nation”. (I don’t even know what that means.)

  18. Obama is mostly true to his word. He said there would be “change” when he was elected. Oh hell, has there been change. He promised a welfare state. Yep, he followed through on that one too. He promised taxing the rich. Well, congress covered that one with the bonus tax to punish companies that give big payouts.

    It’s not that he’s not following through on his promises. It’s that the promises he follows through on scares the holy hell out of everyone. He’s following through with his word…which may destroy us.

  19. 19. bobdog

    Like almost everything else in the Obama political machine, it’s not hope that is important. It’s the appearance of hope.

    Take the rhetoric out of Obama and a darker picture emerges, driven by the petty resentments of leftist radicals and self-absorbed utopians. It’s about imposing the worst of the Liberal ideology of the 1960′s on the rest of the country, whether it likes it or not. And if you don’t like it, you’re the enemy, Republican or Democrat alike. To quote Obama, “We’re keeping score.”

    Carl Rove had an editorial yesterday in the WSJ (see Drudge today) that said that one of his senior White House advisors met regularly with fringe nutjob activists from MoveOn.org and Americas United for Change.

    “Senior presidential adviser Valerie Jarrett and her chief of staff, Michael Strautmanis, are in regular contact with MoveOn.Org, Americans United for Change and other liberal interest groups. Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina has collaborated with Americans United for Change on strategy and even ad copy. Ms. Jarrett invited leaders of the liberal interest groups to a White House social event with the president and first lady to kick off the lobbying campaign.

    “Its targets were initially Republicans, as team Obama ran ads depicting the GOP as the “party of no.” But now the fire is being trained on Democrats worried about runaway spending.”

    You know if the media ever stops treating the Obama like Jesus Christ Superstar, we’re going to get a whole different take on things. I feel like Roddy Piper in “They Live”.

    These damned glasses give me a killer headache.

  20. 20. Middleman

    Paul,
    Vichy Le Pen supporter MiamaMan can barely hide his neo-fascist white nationalist tendencies with his scare mongering of ACORN and minorities in a power grab. Fear of minorities and what they will do has been the longest of conspiracies.
    He may fool some people around here, but considering I have family in France and know people on both sides of the PSG/Marseille rivalry (I’m sure you know how politics plays out with football supporters), then I can smell him a mile away.
    BTW, Miamaman, I don’t buy into either of the two conspiracies you mentioned. Both outside the internet are not very prevalent. Also Obama’s Birth Certificate was revealed by the state of Hawaii so the case is closed.

  21. 21. Tonya

    I agree with you, and I feel his “Hope and Change” speech writers have turned to “Doom and Gloom “ speeches. What happen did he fire the campaign writers? Did he get all new ones for the Presidency?

    I think many of our Politicians are like old tired prostitutes, and many in Hollywood know they are no better than one. They know they are no better, but they want to tell everyone what to do. They want to be Socialist, well they have the money so they should make the move.

    When companies get themselves in dire straights they should get themselves out of the mess they made and not ask the government or the taxpayers for help, it is that simple. You do not see the farmers, mechanics, welders or carpenters standing there with their hands out waiting for money to fuel up their jets. What damn jets?

    I am proud of Ford for trying to get themselves out of the mess, and I sure hope Chrysler does the same thing.

    We own Ford and Chrysler here, and do you know why, because that is what will pull the hay trailers through the wild hog holes out in the pastures. We have an old 65 mustang out in our barn that is proof of what Ford is capable of and it is one great car.

    I love to drive my big four wheel drive Dodge and I love it so much that I had my Harley painted the same new vanilla white color to look feminine. Chrysler and Ford should get themselves out of this mess and not let the government own them. Our trucks were not built by Socialists. Our bikes were not built by a socialist government. They were built by good old American workers. GM I do not know about any old Fiats. All I have to say is anybody who wants it can keep a Fiat.

    Do not tell me we need some little piece of trash car, because we have work to do to pay our governments debts. The calves are ready out in the pasture and we have work to do, and we need American made to do it.

  22. 22. Robert

    This era of poltical correctness has reached the pinnacle of absurdity. This is nothing more than an attempt to present the appearance of change with no substance to back it up. These idiots need to stop fight the semantic war and get to the business of fighting terrorist. I have also railed on the lunacy assocaited with this:http://silentmajority09.blogspot.com/2009/03/political-correctness.html.
    We have got to stop this moronic parsing of words and start strengthening this nation.

  23. 23. Teleprompter Jesus

    Like…hello? Who needs a messiah if he doesn’t save you from hellfire and damnation? Like Mel Brooks said, “it’s good to be the King”. But not in good times. When people stop wondering where their next meal is coming from, they start claiming I’m dead.

    My poll numbers are slipping. Time for Rush…er…Lucifer to start scaring the bebama out of people some more.

  24. 24. Steve P.

    Please. Being honest with the American people about the gravity of this crisis can hardly be called fearmongering.

    Lying to the Amrican people about a completely fabricated threat of being nuked by Iraq? FEARMONGERING.

    Lying to the American people about a fabricated operational relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda? FEARMONGERING.

    Creating a BS color-coded alert system to tell people that a terrorist attack may be imminent but offering no other helpful details about the attack? FEARMONGERING.

    Advising citizens to “watch what they say” because they might be “emboldening” terrorists? FEARMONGERING.

    When it comes to lying and fearmongering, Bush and Cheney are in a league of their own.

  25. 25. Pee Wee Herman, Community Organizer

    Lying to the Amrican [sic] people about a completely fabricated threat of being nuked by Iraq? FEARMONGERING.

    As my good Community Organizer friend, Krusty the Klown said, “what the hell was THAT???”.

  26. 26. LynnS

    Quoting Gordon Brown: March 31, 2009

    “This old world of the old Washington Consensus is over, and what comes in its place is up to us.”

    Quoting Alain Gresh: editor of Le Monde diplomatique and a specialist on the Middle East.

    http://mondediplo.com/_Alain-Gresh_

    Quote from 2008 article Understanding the Beijing Consensus:

    “The decades of the Washington Consensus and its imposition of a liberal model of world trade and financial good behavior are over. What will replace it and which states will be the power-brokers?”

    Does this mean they still hate us?

  27. 27. Dave (the rational Dave)

    Amazing how when you get the leftists frazzled they trot out the dishonest third grade “Bush Lied” rants.

    I’d feel much more inclined to sympathize with Obama’s take on the gravity of our financial situation if his solution did not consist of the same failed hard left policies that got us here in the first place.

    Obama fear-mongering? Probably. Opportunistic power grab? There should be no doubt.

  28. 28. tanstaafl

    Being honest with the American people about the gravity of this crisis can hardly be called fearmongering.

    Barack Obama has been repeating the exact same phrases about America and “the economy” since Novemeber. I would doubt that, personally, he even understands much about economic realities.

    It is in the interests of growing government dependency and “spreading the wealth around” that he constantly indulges in negativity about America.

    Yesterday, he reiterated his moaning and groaning shtick in London verbatim, and told the assembled world leaders that America (and “lack of [federal gov't] regulation”) largely contributed to worldwide economic troubles.

    (he failed to mention how that selfsame federal gov’t played a huge role in the mortgage débacle, see esp. Fannie & Freddie)

    When the closest you’ve come to doing anything real in your adult life is community organizing, it’s difficult to get out of that mindset into something one might call presidential leadership.

    He clings to his mantra. It’s all he knows how to do.

  29. Dave (the irrational Dave) I guess Bush really was a leftist stooge since what got us here happened under his watch

  30. 30. LynnS

    Shhhh…The President of the World is speaking.

    CNN is calling it “A Plan to Rescue the World.”

    He is telling us what is wrong and what the world will do about it.

    Now he is telling the world how the United States will pay for it.

    Is this change?

    Everything old becomes new again.

  31. 31. Paul from Hamburg

    Middleman:

    “Vichy Le Pen supporter”: So? Black cat gets white stripe, skunk falls in love and pursues cat. What’s wrong with that?

  32. 32. Pee Wee Herman, Community Organizer

    CNN is calling it “A Plan to Rescue the World.”

    Now Francis is trying to steal the world? Never trust the rich.

  33. 33. JED

    My stars and goodness, do you mean to tell us that a politician would lie to us? If I ever learned to lie, I would go straight into politics. When we we ever learn? “Poly” means many and “ticks” are blood sucking creatures, hence “politics” represent many blood sucking creatures. When we we ever learn to not follow the slick talking, mighty promising shill who has all of the answers and a trophy wife?

  34. 34. Sebastian Shaw

    Besides mentioning hope & false optimism during the campaign, Obama has been negative for the most part. Michelle Obama has been negative too. The difference is the masque has been removed to fully reveal President Obama to be the Marxist opportunist he has always has been. Hence, the need to pass his legislation without reading the bills.

    The backlash against Obama’s policies will be total, but it will take years to repeal his Marxist laws. The damage had will been done.

    America will rise from the ashes when the people realize that living in a Socialist Republic is a nightmare. Hopefully, Obama will be persona non-grata after his disasterous 4 year term much like Jimmy Carter’s years as President.

  35. 35. Dave (the rational Dave)

    “I guess Bush really was a leftist stooge since what got us here happened under his watch”

    Cluelessness masquerading as intelligence.

    While President Bush’s policies were in part the cause of weakness in the dollar, he did not create the risk debacle that destroyed the credit markets, the financial sector, and destroyed confidence. That falls directly at the feet of the creators and protectors of the CRA, Fannie/Freddie, and big finance. Low and behold all of those are institutions and programs run by and for Democrats. The left wing has created this fantasy world of massive deregulation causing the downturn and tries to scape-goat President Bush, but they did all they could to block any reigning in of Freddie/Fannie or correction of CRA. If we had an honest press, the Dems would be right back to where they were in 1994.

    President Bush was not perfect, but laying all this on his administration is ignorant and/or dishonest. And it does not mitigate the fact that the current administration is going in exactly the wrong direction.

  36. 36. MiamaMan

    Middleman:

    No need to be bitter, pally!

    So it seems ACORN is OK with you, so if I am a LePen supported, you must be a fringe lefty loony. Right? Hey, no problem man, it comes with the territory, like Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker, said. There is always light and its shadow.

    As the conspiracies I mentioned, you may want to stop by the Middle East, where the 9/11 one is accepted by many people, surely not an Internet nutjob.

    As for the other one, HIV for blacks, it wasn’t in the Internet either, but extolled by windbag Reverend Wright, right from the pulpit in the “church” Obamin attended for 20 years.

    Why having family in France qualifies you as an expert in this or anything, in psychology too, beats me?

    As for minorities, it is correct that fear of them had been misused in the past by unscrupulous politicians and others. The USA was successful because minorities blended and imitated the majority at high speed. But as soon as you have enclaves where minorities fail to integrate, do not learn the language, become activists, even hate the country that accepted them in the first place, exactly what has happened in many parts of Europe with the Muslims, and is happening in Kalifornia and other states, then you are up for trouble.

    I smell a rat here.

  37. 37. gcblues

    war is peace, poverty is rich, aggressive is passive, impediment is aid, lies are truth, weak is strong, fear is ________.

    fill in the blank. seems i have read this book somewhere before. let me think a minute, ahhhh yes.

  38. 38. malclave

    Since when have the standards Obama wants to apply to other people EVER applied to him?

    This is just more Change We Can Believe In.

  39. 39. Steve P.

    Over 60 % of Americans approve the job the President is doing and approve of the steps he is taking to confront the economic crisis he inherited from the Republican administration. A majority of Americans also agree that the economic crisis is not the current President’s fault.

    And yet, conservatives continue to repeat these totally bogus and unfounded statements that there’s going to be a huge backlash against the President or that Americans are frightened of the direction this country is headed.

    There’s apparently a huge disconnect between how conservatives think Americans feel and how Americans actually feel. It’s clear most Americans support the president and do not believe that returning to the taxation system under Clinton is socialism, or that regulating the salaries of bailed-out CEOs is fascism.

    Conservative Republicans have clearly lost the trust of the American voter and have become the minority, and yet instead of asking yourselves the really tough questions like “what did we do wrong as a movement/party to have alienated so many Americans” and “how can we adapt to the current climate in order to stay relevant”, conservatives have instead adopted the hysterical position that it’s not conservatives who are the problem, but it’s everyone else, i.e., the vast majority of Americans, who must be ignorant sheep for just not realizing that one day soon President Obama is going to take off his mask and reveal himself as a socialist/marxist/totalitarian/cylon/velociraptor/sith lord, leaving all of us to wonder how a nerdy, pragmatic intellectual family man could have possibly bamboozled us and subsequently trampled our democracy under his boot.

    It’s really astounding that this is what conservatives actually believe – that somehow they are blessed with an exceptional intelligence that gives them the unique perspective to understand the evil inherent in our President when no one else can, and further they believe that they have some sort of special calling to be the gun-toting revolutionary heroes who will rise to save America from the marxist/totalitatian/sith empire that will inevitably grip the country now that liberals are in charge. Not only does it sound completely ridiculous to any rational person, but it gives you a really good sense of how conservatives view themselves and their world. They are convinced that their country is being overtaken by satan, that the rest of America (again, the vast majority) is basically satanic-by-association for supporting this administration or at least allowing this to happen, and so therefore they are the only real force for good and must stop the rest of us before “it’s too late”.

    In essence, the conservative movement has become a patchwork of varying conspiracy theories and its members are now not much more than conspiracy theorists, snatching blindly at any shred of information, regardless of its truth or merit, that will support their delusion that there is a legitimate aura of evil and hate surrounding the President, his family, his values and his vision for this country.

  40. 40. Moogie

    The collapse of the mortgage industry started in 1977 with the passage of the Community Reinvestment Act. The catalyst that brought the market down was the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933. This was done in 1999 – under Clinton, with the help of the republicans in congress:

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/nov1999/bank-n01.shtml

    Bush was not the president in 1977 or 1999, so this leaves him out of the “start-up” equation.

    However, under Bush, the Democratic congress in power from 2006-2008 was able to spend recklessly. He had the power to veto, but didn’t.

    In the backgound of much of the financial shenanigans is the name George Soros. The bulk of his political contributions go the Democratic party, although there are also Republicans who have accepted his support.

    It should also be noted that while Saddam Hussein was not technically a nuclear weapon, he was surely a Weapon of Mass Destruction, given the millions of people he murdered, thereby making the pre-emptive strike against Iraq justifiable. Remember, the world powers had tried for years to get Hussein to reveal his arsenal, which he refused to do. He had been warned repeatedly. He bragged continuously about the warfare material he had.

    Now, onto the crux of this article. Obama’s words do not mean “things.” One of the first “Rules for Radicals” is to use a lot of words, strung together in such a way as to sound like insightful rhetoric, but which, when closely examined, have no meaning whatsover. Outright lying is deployed as needed, and when called on the contradiction by others, the speaker must then deflect and distract with more rhetoric about other people’s faults.

  41. 41. Moogie

    For those who don’t believe in conspiracies, I’d recommend looking up the Cloward-Piven Strategy. I read about this recently, thanks to a tip from another commenter.

    Keep in mind while reading this that nearly everyone involved with Cloward and Piven throughout their careers were also associates of Obama’s at some point or another throughout his career and academic life.

  42. 42. MiamaMan

    Steve P

    Come on bro, you serious? Obama has 60% approval now, Bush had that too after 2 months. Give Obama some time, man.

    You seem to be the one that thinks himself very intelligent, espousing several brainy theories.

    About Satan, ask that nutjob Reverend Wright, and may be the other windbag Father Flaegler.

    Great vision for this country, man, leave Disneyland and come back down from the clouds.

    I am conservative, but I seat in the political spectrum to the left of Hitler, so? now, but a little to the right of Genghis Khan. You must maintain your balance.

  43. 43. one of my own

    39 Moogie . . . Moogie, Moogie, Moogie . . . “However, under Bush, the Democratic congress in power from 2006-2008 was able to spend recklessly. He had the power to veto, but didn’t.”

    You might want to check that one out. Bush vetoed 12 bills while president. The first was July 19, 2006. Every spending/appropriations/supplemental bill put forth by the Republican Congress from 2000-2006 sailed through without a veto.

    You really need to watch something other than Fox. Sounds like you’ve been relying on donttreadonme’s empirical data.

  44. 44. Tonya

    Steve P.

    Do you realize how absurd you sound rambling on about such things when you say ” one day soon President Obama is going to take off his mask and reveal himself as a socialist/marxist/totalitarian/cylon/velociraptor/sith lord, leaving all of us to wonder how a nerdy, pragmatic intellectual family man could have possibly bamboozled us and subsequently trampled our democracy under his boot.”

    You are the only person that I have heard call him a Velociraptor or a Sith Lord.
    You sound like one of the Presidents speech writers on crack.

    I am conservative and I know for sure that he is not a ” socialist/marxist/totalitarian/cylon/velociraptor/sith lord”, and I must say you are the only person here that seems to bring his whole family into your statement. Your statement sounds like a college geek with a crack monkey on his back.
    A Velociraptor dinosaur would not be borrowing 3.6 Trillion on a stimulus budget.

  45. 45. John B

    I’m still waiting for all the free stuff Obama promised.

  46. 46. Fantom

    “…2. Despina Ang:
    i think that the case of obama now poses inequality in terms of how the political circle attack him. see, he just serves for a couple months. why not give him a chance?….”

    Shirley you jest? Remember how an honest President was treated? That would be Dubya… now you want a stinking marxist liar treated better? That stinks, much like B.O. does.

  47. 47. Bilgeman

    #38 Steve P:
    “And yet, conservatives continue to repeat these totally bogus and unfounded statements that there’s going to be a huge backlash against the President or that Americans are frightened of the direction this country is headed.”

    Buddy, your head is so far up your +ss that you are in dire need of a periscope to walk about unaided in broad daylight.

    You posted your BS on April 2nd…do you know what happened yesterday buddy?

    Your beloved %60 Alleged Hawaiian slapped every smoker in America with a 62 cents a pack tax increase on cigarettes.

    $1.01 a pack is the new amount in taxes paid on a pack. Obama has put his hands in every smokers’ pocket for just over a nickel a butt.

    This is on top of that spurious Attorneys General Settlement…go sniff out where all THAT money went…we know where it came from.

    And you SERIOUSLY think that there ain’t going to be a backlash against this corrupt and egotitistical little faux-Marxist buffoon?

    Quite the statesman, your precious “One”…threatens the Rich, but beats up the smokers.

  48. 48. Fantom

    “44. John B:
    I’m still waiting for all the free stuff Obama promised.”

    Man, talk about wanting it all. Has not B.O. cured cancer, caught his bro Osama Bin, filled your gas tank, saved the DoDo bird and brought about world peace?

    John B. … all I can say is some people are never satisfied.

  49. 49. tanstaafl

    The funniest thing about the huge increase in taxes on tobacco products is that the purpose of this tax is to fund new health care coverage …Cough…

    Most specifically, the CHIP or SCHIP for children.

    (“children” may be those little kiddies up to age 30 still living with mommy & daddy)

    Anyway, wheredidjacopythatthing, Steve P ?

  50. 50. Pee Wee Herman, Community Organizer

    Goodbye, grim warnings about terrorism. Hello, grim warnings about the economy.

    The grim warnings about the sea level rising didn’t quite have the desired effect, did they? Algore’s just plain dull. Maybe Teh One needs to make a climate hellfire-and-damnation flik. Better yet, get Rev. Wright to do it. Something like “God damn Amerikka for warming up the globe with this CO2 that sterilizes black folk”…

  51. 51. ms ramamurthy

    abe lincoln lived and breathed patriotism.And died a martyr to the cause. a not well publicised fact is that the Gettysburg address was a labour of love, for the country and the cause he believed in. And it might have landed in the archives of anonymity if the editors of national newspapers had been napping. The occasional phrase and word sent by the field reporters who thought the President’s speech was lacklustre compared to the fire and brimstone style oration of general grant in the same function alerted them to the message universal aspect. And they managed to get the text of speech. the rest is history.
    times change, mores change but the imperatives of the day remain the same.One must concede the fact that President Obama is yet to get his bearings right.

  52. 52. Delia

    For some comedy relief:

    Q: Who can look better in a dress than the current first lady?

    A: Dennis Rodman

    Ba-dump bump! Ching! You’re welcome.

  53. 53. Moogie

    #42 One of Not My Own: First, did I say he never vetoed anything? No I did not say that. He vetoed, yes, but didn’t veto everything. Second, did I not say he, along with the Republicans did quite a bit of spending? Yes, I did say that. Third, I saw that same statistic you quote on Wikipedia.

    So now let’s knock of the same old tired crap of “Bush did it.” Yes, he did. He spent way too much, with the approval of Congress, both Republicans and Democrats. His last two years – when the Dems were in power – marked increased spending. I’m sure there’s some kind of statistical data on Wikipedia that you can look up.

    Now, go look up George Soros. Go look up the Cloward-Piven Strategy. Go look up Saul Alinsky. Go look up Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Go look up Tony Rezko. Go look up Bill Ayers. Go look up Frank Marshall Davis. Go look up Rashid Khalidi. Go look up Hatem El-Hady. Don’t use Wikipedia this time. Use multiple objective sources, as it’s obvious you get all of your information from NPR.

  54. 54. john from cinncinatti

    steve p: the velocirapator sith lord is extinct/hollywood. Marxist totalitarian is real, don’t let your fantasy world overlap. somebody call Michele a trophy wife? wtf? i thought trophy wives were supposed to be good looking. ok it was sarcasm i get it.

  55. 55. Class Clown

    Oh please. Conspiracy theories abound in the world these days. However, the Right can’t even hold a candle to the Left. Case in point, you cite the “birth certificate” canard. Those people are fringe lunatics, and even Conservatives don’t believe them or care, and Republicans I know mock them.

    However, the Left has totally mainstreamed their conspiracy theories. They have allowed 9/11 theories to flourish without condemning them (Rosie O’Donnell is a far more mainstream Progressive than any of the birth certificate crowd are mainstream Conservatives). There have even been Democratic 9/11 conspiracy believers IN CONGRESS!

    And there are other conspiracy theories that are so deeply entrenched on the Left that they have entered the popular consciousness and aren’t even being questioned at all. For example: the “Bush Lied” crowd. He most certainly did not. Every western intelligence agency and the United Nations itself had concluded that Saddam had WMD again (need I stress the word AGAIN? the fact that he had used them before was its own evidence). On this one I will refer you to a very good article from Norman Podhoretz. http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007540

    And yet the chorus continues, and some of these people are going to come back and attack me for even saying that at all here. I myself always had reservations about Bush, but truth matters to me far more than politics.

    The Left introduced to the world the very roots of the modern conspiracy theory: It was they that succumbed to the Marxist interpretations of culture, who elevated feelings above reason, and who embraced the post-modern conceit that truth is whatever you want it to be.

    Any right-wing conspiracy theory is just stupid people imitating the true masters of the art. The Leftists are so far gone they don’t know night from day anymore.

  56. 56. Войска ПВО

    39. Steve P. writes:

    “Over 60 % of Americans approve the job the President is doing and approve of the steps he is taking to confront the economic crisis..”

    I would not hang onto that raft too long, Stevie Pee, it’s sinking faster than a lead Mae West. Down 18 points in two months; shortest new prez honeymoon in history. Check RCP and Rasmussen and note how your golden boy’s favorability rating and spread has evaporated because people realize he is the leader of the gang that couldn’t shoot straight.

  57. 57. Bilgeman

    #55 Class Clown:
    “However, the Left has totally mainstreamed their conspiracy theories. They have allowed 9/11 theories to flourish without condemning them.”

    Ah, yes…the dynamiting of the levees in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina, and lest we forget:

    “George Bush doesn’t care about Black people”

    Which was Mike Moore’s finest on-camera moment…ever.(And all he had to do was stand there looking mortified).

    One quibble:

    “(Rosie O’Donnell is a far more mainstream Progressive than any of the birth certificate crowd are mainstream Conservatives).”

    I would dearly like to see the vault copy of Barak Obama’s Birth Certificate, and not the computer-generated abstract he posted on his website.

    It would be such a small thing for him, the fee is apparently nominal…like $12.00 bucks, which I’m SURE he can borrow from his White Master George Soros.

    Unless of course, he’s hiding something…in which case all his obfuscatory lawyer machinations make perfect sense.

    Such a simple solution, but he refuses to do what millions of Americans who apply for a lousy state driver’s license or US passport have to comply with.

  58. 58. Class Clown

    Bilgeman,

    I just can’t agree with you on the birth certificate question. I’ve read all the websites, and I just can’t find anything in it that doesn’t smell like classic conspiracy theory boilerplate.

  59. 59. Sebastian Shaw

    President Obama’s ratings continue to drop like a turd; therefore, I would not be counting his popularity as a guide. President Jimmy Carter once had a 70% approval rating in the beginning of his disastrous term. I believe President Obama is following in the footsteps of Jimmy Carter the longer his Marxist plans come in place.

    Will Obama bring back the Misery Index? I think it’s only a matter of time before Obama starts blaming the public for his own mistakes when things don’t go quite as the little dictator plans.

    The Democrats will eventually repudiate Obama for fear of not getting re-elected save for the extreme liberal Socialists who want absolute power…

  60. 60. Bilgeman

    #58 Class Clown;
    “I just can’t agree with you on the birth certificate question. I’ve read all the websites, and I just can’t find anything in it that doesn’t smell like classic conspiracy theory boilerplate.”

    Hey, it’s understandable. The Big Lie works because it’s so….Big. It’s very outrageousness is what make it hard to give any credence to.

    What got me into it, was that I had to get a DMV ID card for my child, whose birth cert looks a lot like a car title in my state.

    While I was getting my child’s, I saw my own, from the mid-1960′s, and it looks nothing like the PC word-processor generated document image that Obama has bruited as being his own.

    MY Vault Birth Cert is a photographic reproduction of the original, with a raised seal, and you can tell that some clerk rolled the original into a typewriter and manually entered the particulars.

    Like I said, it would be no big deal for the One to produce his vault copy…the rest of us have to do it occasionally, but the way he’s playing lawyer games is what keeps us all barking up that particular tree.

  61. 61. annnort

    Someone needs to find out which judge sealed Obama’s records, including his birth certificate. Judge’s in Chicago can be bought cheaply. Perhaps other judges can be bought. The IRS could go back and see if a judge was paid by Obama. I just do not understand why a man is allowed to be pres. and is not checked out. All the sites that confirm his sayings are sites that can be linked to Soros or another Obama supporter.

  62. 62. one of my own

    53. Moogie . . . allow me this teachable moment . . . all specific to your #40 post, my rebuttal #43 post followed up by your shameless and transparent cover-my-ass #53 post. Enjoy.

    Moogie: “Did I say he never vetoed anything? No I did not say that.”

    OOMO: Actually, yes you did say that, here it is . . . “However, under Bush, the Democratic congress in power from 2006-2008 was able to spend recklessly. He had the power to veto, but didn’t.”

    Moogie: “Second, did I not say he, along with the Republicans did quite a bit of spending? Yes, I did say that.”

    OOMO: Actually, no, you didn’t say that. You made only one reference to Republicans. Here it is . . . “The bulk of (George Soros’s) political contributions go the Democratic party, although there are also Republicans who have accepted his support.” No mention whatsoever of Republicans contributing to profligate spending.

    Moogie: “Third, I saw that same statistic you quote on Wikipedia.”

    OOMO: That may be. I didn’t go there to get my information, but apparently you did. That’s fine by me. But if as you imply you distrust Wikipedia, you should consider using some other source.

    Now, here’s the really important part for you to understand, Moogie . . . your behavior in your posts is precisely the reason the Republicans and conservatives have lost all respect in this country. You’re unwilling to accept responsibility and unable to identify any connection between principle and action. And when confronted with these truths, you just make sh*t up. Don’t get me wrong, I love it when you people behave this way . . . it’s like watching a chain gang trading shovels and picks . . . shunned from decent society for your shameful and illicit deeds . . . shackled together and swinging picks and shovels you keep on digging even though you have nothing to find and nowhere to go.

    That’s how it is and that’s how it’s done, Moogie.

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