Obama Sounds the Retreat
President Obama’s Cairo speech had a number of serious shortcomings, including a fixation on moral equivalence among Israel, its neighbors, and the Palestinians who have and continue to reject the Jewish state’s right to exist. But no part of the speech was quite so troublesome, or as dangerous, as the words he devoted to the looming threat posed by Iran — a country bent not only on acquiring nuclear arms but on destroying Israel, in part by aiding and abetting terrorist groups.
Obama had this to say:
It will be hard to overcome decades of mistrust, but we will proceed with courage, rectitude, and resolve. There will be many issues to discuss between our two countries, and we are willing to move forward without preconditions on the basis of mutual respect. But it is clear to all concerned that when it comes to nuclear weapons, we have reached a decisive point. This is not simply about America’s interests. It is about preventing a nuclear arms race in the Middle East that could lead this region and the world down a hugely dangerous path.
I understand those who protest that some countries have weapons that others do not. No single nation should pick and choose which nations hold nuclear weapons. That is why I strongly reaffirmed America’s commitment to seek a world in which no nations hold nuclear weapons. And any nation — including Iran — should have the right to access peaceful nuclear power if it complies with its responsibilities under the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. That commitment is at the core of the Treaty, and it must be kept for all who fully abide by it. And I am hopeful that all countries in the region can share in this goal.
And that’s it. Really.
If you missed the part about America’s resolute commitment to preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear arms, you are not alone. If you missed his castigation of Iran for fomenting violence, killing American servicemen in Iraq, and flouting international agreements on everything from nuclear inspection to genocide, you are not alone.
It is, no doubt, music to the mullahs’ ears to hear that there is no prohibition on proceeding with their program. After all, the president declared himself helpless to tell another country that it lacks the right to acquire nuclear weapons. All he could muster on the subject of preventing Iran from acquiring such weapons? He is “hopeful that all countries in the region can share this goal.”
Well you know how it is, birds of a feather, etc.
Besides, The O has a country to impoverish and I ask you, which is more important?
It’s the perfect policy for an Israel who lies to get away with what she wants.
Report Ties Dubious Iran Nuclear Docs to Israel
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=47081
One of the bloggers or comments I read earlier today (sorry I can’t remember which) made the observation that Hussein Obama says Iran can have nuclear power generation, but Obama and his Dems in thrall won’t let us in the U.S. have it.
Obama is so going to get us conquered…
Obama so wants us to get conquered.
There was an author of an article on this page who said something like:
“People criticize obama’s economic policy and say it won’y work and will destroy our economy.
People criticize obama’s middle east policy and say it won’t work and will lead to nuclear attacks on our allies and the U.S.
What makes you so sure he wants these policies to work ?”
These policies may accomplish exactly what he wants
Obama shows an unfaltering conviction for morally equating the US with Iran and the rest of the world. When given a choice of principles to stand up for, he chooses utter fantasies such as nuclear non-proliferation and a nuclear-free world.
One can only conclude that he will never feel accountable for the consequences of his actions. This is naivete at its best.
I saw the white flag, too. When you tell the muslims you respect the great wisdom of their tradition, you effectively submit to islam, in their books.
Earlier he proclaimed “No preconditions”, pandering to his supporters. Does he understand that in the islamic eschatology, this is basically voluntary dhimmitude?
In order to support his narrative, he postured as “a student of history”, and nobody in his staff stuck his or her neck out enough to delete this false claim, a blatant example arrogance under the pretense of humility!
Neville Obama should not be President any longer plain and simple. The Brits are calling for Brown’s resignation,we should call for Obama’s. Ok I’ll go first. Mr. President hand over the car keys,you’re drunk.
What – give the keys to Biden?
Pelosi??
Reid???
We’re screwed.
Kumbaya, my Lord, Kumbaya.
Kumbaya, my Lord, Kumbaya.
What’s your solution then Ms. Rubin? What neocons have failed to notice is that public direct threats haven’t worked. Look where axis of evil rhetoric and the Iraqi invasion has gotten us. We would be in a much better position with Iran if that Bush guy you voted for twice didn’t mess things up so bad. By taking out Saddam and being scared of taking on North Korea we basically said that having nuclear capabilities prevents the US from attacking. Iran got the message. Now we need some new tactics other than threats but don’t worry Ms. Rubin you really don’t have to think about this after all because no one with any power cares what you think.
The mounting, blatant evidence that Obama does not have our interests at heart, does not put this country and our national security first, does not have any commitment to protect Israel (= Jews) is almost more than I could have imagined would unfold in such short amount of time in office. But, unfold it has. Where are the voices of our elected official speaking out? The gutlessness of them is remarkable.
Hussein Obama said: “…no system of government can or should be imposed upon one nation by any other.”
He meant Iraq of course. But democracy was not “imposed” on Iraq. They were offered democracy and eagerly accepted it. Remember the purple fingers? He lied by implication. He does that a lot.
I always get a laugh when Lefties say Bush should have attacked this place and not that place. As if they really would support an attack anywhere for any defensive purpose. Pull the other one, Whatnow?
“By taking out Saddam and being scared of taking on North Korea we basically said that having nuclear capabilities prevents the US from attacking.”
It looks as though it is up to Israel,a mere little strip of bacon beside the sea,to prevent another hollocaust and a Middle East arms race. Obama has lain down on his laurels when he doesn’t have any. If he calls himself a student of history,he could pass as a dropout.
Whatnow[12],it’s what these policies haven’t gotton us that is important,and what we are about to get.
Okay, everyone repeat after me: The lowest form of stupidity is weakness. Obama is weakness.
I hope and pray the threats of bio-terror never comes to fruition. Dying from smallpox/anthrax etc. is a fear I hope our country never has to realize. The Taliban certainly don’t give a flying crap what 0bama has to say.
I thought it was a pretty good speech actually. I liked that part about electing governments democratically and publicly noticing how the weaker parties all seem to, once elected, follow the one vote one time route. I wasn’t expecting even this much, so I’m sort of pleased.
To whatnow?:
Ms. Rubin is not required to have a complete plan of action at any given moment to substitute for the plan (or lack thereof) of the current White House occupant. Ms. Rubin is ‘speaking to power,’ in the parlance of the left. The reason you don’t recognize it is because you on the left don’t actually speak TO power, you speak FOR power.
Personally, I would much prefer that the rogue nations of the world feared us rather than liked us as the POTUS seems to think is appropriate.
By the way, How many wars is it possible to fight at any given time? GWB was winning (yes, that’s right) the war in Irag, keeping the Afghanistan front frozen and keeping the Iranian mullahs wondering. How much could he do about NK with all that going on?
Anyone notice how the invertebrate co-signed on just about every fallacious narrative possible while claiming not to? His weakness makes me sick.
Obama is a threat to our national security.
God bless America.
We don’t even rank in the top 50 countries with the highest muslim population. Another Obama lie.
I can’t understand how people who remember Jimmuh Idiot Carter could have ever voted for a carbon copy of him with less experience and fewer reliable people to call on. I know three people who voted for this idiot and yet, they’re now worried about what he might do. They don’t yet realize he’s a died in the wool socialist and globalist who wants to cripple this country, but they’re sitting around and crying over “his lack of good advisers”, and “his lack of understanding on several major issues”.
These same folks are just positive that Congress will act as a buffer between Obama and the public so that he doesn’t tax their health benefits or get the cap and trade system he wants.
Someone please explain to me how people can vote for someone with no experience whatsoever and then think that his screwing up isn’t his own damn fault or why on earth they think Congress isn’t just as anxious to socialize everything and raise their taxes just like Obama is? It makes no sense that people can be this stupid and still hold down reasonably cognitive jobs as they do. I just don’t get it.
Regards
Fred #15:
Excellent point about the hypocrisy of Leftist dweebs like “whatnow #12″.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for a civil response…heh.
Will someone please remind Obama that he is the President of the UNITED STATES. Nice to know he’s overseas propping up Muslim relations while we’re here on US soil being threatened by Muslim extremists. Did he even mention the US soldier killed in Little Rock by a MUSLIM EXTREMIST? Too busy reading his teleprompters in Cairo and chatting up the Saudi royal family. Is he visiting Israel on his overseas tour? Nope. Can’t imagine why not.
TO: Jennifer Ruben
RE: Bad Graphics
The ‘white flag’ signals ‘surrender’. Not ‘retreat’.
But maybe that’s what you were thinking when you selected it.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
I don’t find anything “naive” in a politician who succeeds in weakening America as much as this president has done…in five months.
I find him extremely effective instead.
And I find extremely ineffective the dissent that until now has not been able to stop the damages.
The subversives must be proud. Not only they are weakening America, but the opposition is fascinated by the eyes of the snake and is unable to make any significant move.
I repeat my advice to the GOP,
read Rikki-Tikki-Tavi.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
TO: AThinkingPerson
RE: Well….
….actually, we’re being gunned-down in the streets by Muslim extremists.
There’s a bit of a difference.
Hadn’t been much of that since that sniper team of Muslims were captured YEARS ago.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. I ‘hope’ everybody is enjoying the ‘change’…..
Iran is actually one of the most pro-American states in the Middle East despite their leadership, and that crazy Bob Denver lookalike they currently have as president is probably soon going to be shown the door, to be placed by a moderate. Right now I won’t blame Obama for playing what’s probably a wait-and-see game.
And not a word from Obama regarding our defense of Muslims. The no fly zones that protected Shia in the south of Iraq, or the Kurds in the north. No scholar here, but doesn’t Obama have an obligation to defend the humanitarian nature of our servemen and women? How many were injured or died while trying to avoid civilian casualties? The Iraqis initially saw this as weakness, but grew to respect OUR values, not those of the jihad. And no mention of democracy,even as Kuwait’s historic elections have finally given women a role in the government. Student of history?
Makes you wonder if he is a sleeper cell AlQueda oerative in the United states, doesn’t it? Every decision from comments that push GM to bankruptcy, earlier doom and gloom acceleration of the dropping stock market, Skyrocketing debt, health care destruction (yes he calls it reform).
“The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belong to one category.” Adolf Hitler
This guy is creepin’ me out. He’s doing things no American President should EVER do…unless we’re just another stepping stone for the “King of the World”. Makes him even more creepy.
Obama has just shown the Islamists of the world that we as a nation are weak.
They can respect a strong enemy, but a weak and cowardly opportunist must be dealt with severely.
Expect 9/11 part II to arrive in a theater soon.
Are you still glad that you voted for Obama?
Barry better hope none of his Muslim buddies blow anything up in the next 4 years.
Sherab — hear-hear. An illustration of this hypnotic state is Middleman. Watch the hystrionic president, don’t mind the Shura ayatollahs and the precepts they are guided by!
All this talk about Obama being “naïve” is laughable. He may slip about the number of US vs Islamic states (57) or not know what they speak in Austria but he and his handlers are moving forward with the program as efficiently as they can.
And please, before another comment on the Jews who voted Obama or Jews among his entourage — Jews are and have been one of the more disunited tribes, especially when not under pressure. From Babylon to Moscow, there have been plenty among them willing to throw their tribe under the bus.
Re #28 Chuck Pelto: Good point!
TO: Muddleman, and his ilk
RE: Wait and See?
And who will you blame if a nuke, courtesy of Iran or Hezzbolah, goes off in some largish American city?
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Inquiring minds want to know.....]
Middleman:…”Right now I won’t blame Obama for playing what’s probably a wait-and-see game.”
Wait and see if they fire a nuke or provide one to Hamas, that is not a good policy it is insanity. Plan for the worst and take appropriate action such as destruction of the threat even if it means military force.
Oh by the way my brother in law is an Iranian and has been here since 1979 but can not retorn to his country due to the turmoil in that crappy country.
TO: Houdini
RE: BRO!!!!
Mine’s been here since before that. He married my sister in ’79. Bright guy. Had equipment he designed and built sent up to the Skylab….while it was still in orbit.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[It's a small world....affffter aaaaalllll....]
Obama has always been about retreat: He was against the Iraq surge which turned out to be winner for the USA & our allies. But Obama still refused to acknowledge the Surge worked. He is capitulating to North Korea, Iran, & Russia. It’s all linked for his hatred for America. Most Leftists think this way. The dictators have turned up the volume & the intensity precisely due to the fact they sense & know President Obama is a wimp. Massage his malformed ego & he’ll give away the keys to the kingdom…
The speech was a boring load of sonorious overtones with that typical touch of breaking into the jive talk of the preacher man. We have heard the veiled threats and pandering before.
If you want to have some fun with this world speech to Mecca, try and pretend that you are a mullah,sheik, king, or president for life listening to this president in training. My first conjured thought from that position is that Obama is the temporary president of a democracy that can change out the face every four years. I, the king or whomever, am the power for life. Why would I want to implement his tempory and glorious revisions against the play of thousands of years to his quick fix and kiss my check book solutions? Then I would watch what he does to the US economy when fiscal reality catches up to idealogy before the next election cycle. My job is certain, and how is yours?
Paul – Indiana – I am delighted I voted for Obama. The only people who say they are not never really voted for him in the first place. This is place where the vast majority who come here are wingnuts and the rest of us come here for comic relief
Houdini,
Iran, for as crazy as they are, would not be stupid enough to provide Hamas a nuke or try to fire a nuke off themselves because they are probably well aware that the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction comes into play.
Hamas sets off a nuke, the Palestinians get to all die nice and slowly from fallout and radiation poisoning. Iran fires a nuke, they lose all their cities in return.
For all the martyr chest thumping, neither group is that suicidal because at the end of the day their elites are concerned with their own self-preservation. They don’t send their own kids to go suicide bomb.
My biggest fear with Iran’s nuclear program isn’t Iran launching a nuke, but the Arabs following suit and starting up a nuclear arms race in the Middle East. That most certainly will mean nuclear material ending up in the hands of someone who IS suicidal and willing to use it.
And where does Obama go after his Middle East fiasco en route home? Germany and France. It figures.
obama seems long on guile and gall and short on courage and patriotism.
who and where are they( the 60% that are giving him high marks)?
The mullahs can sleep well tonight. They now know for sure they have a friend in the White House.
Can someone produce any evidence that any of our elected officials (Democrat or Republican) actually have a point where they will publicly say that hussein obama is failing to uphold his oath to protect and defend the United States and the Constitution?
Do any of them actually have a point where they will say, “this is not acceptable”?
I am actually beginning to consciously try to formulate in my understanding–the ACTUAL CONDITIONS under which they would think (and take action) that he has to be stopped.
Where is it? Will it be when the lights in Washington go out due to terrorists at the power station?
Where is that point? When 14 Senators’ dead bodies are lined up on the mall, with grenades tied to them?
When IED’s start going off in Tampa?
When 5 American mullahs take over a TV station?
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME EXACTLY WHERE AND WHEN OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS WILL ACTUALLY INDICATE THAT THEY GIVE A DAMN????? (Ok. Something’s gotta give. I only allow myself 2 “damns” a year…and I think I’ve used up the 2009 supply now)
And I am not intending these to be rhetorical questions. I really want to know. What will it take? I’ll even accept shades of gray. Doesn’t have to be “all or nothing”. Can SOME of them actually SAY something publicly that indicates that the butterflies in THEIR stomachs are beginning to fly in formation as well?
Anyone?
TO: Muddleman
RE: Dork!
Care to bet your life on that one?
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. I see you didn’t answer my question about who you’d blame….
Why is that?
Hussein Obama will be remember as conquering the greatest nation on earth, the United States of America.
Just as Meryl(48) asked, where do we draw the line. Just how far does the Constitution allow this guy to go. There has to be someone on this forum who knows the answer.
TO: mayanpiper
RE: Well….
….if it happens….
….it will the the quintessential self-inflicted wound as all the stupid, idiots who put him in the Oval Office will have all that blood on THEIR hands.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. -- John Adams]
To Bibi:
build, baby, build!
Elections have consequences and it’s about time that the two youngest generations of Americans learn that lesson. Let’s hope they can, because if they can’t we are finished. Some days I think we’ll survive this and move in a different direction in January of 2013. Some days, like today, I feel much more glum and note hopeful at all.
44. The Shadow writes:
“..I am delighted I voted for Obama. The only people who say they are not never really voted for him in the first place. This is place where the vast majority who come here are wingnuts and the rest of us come here for comic relief.”
..enoy the ride while you can, clown, because there will ultimately be a backlash against this jerk and his cronies that will make the Reagan Revolution look like a hiccup.
The Shadow,
You and Pat J use that word “wingnut” a lot. Just as I suggested to him, I so request from you: you guys pay me $1 for every time you revert to that word “wingnut.” You already owe me a lot of dollars.
And if you don’t like our opinions, why do you come here and comment? The vast majority of us have at least the wisdom and decency to not post what we think over in your world on the other side.
Unless you are paid to come here…
Best Middle East peace speech ever!
Nuclear power in Iran? These countries have nuclear reactors:
Argentina Armenia Belgium Brazil Bulgaria Canada People’s Republic of China Czech Republic Finland France Germany Hungary India Iran Japan Lithuania Mexico Netherlands Pakistan Poland Portugal Romania Russia S Africa South Korea Slovakia Slovenia Spain Sweden Switzerland Taiwan United Kingdom Ukraine United States
Maybe the GOP should start their own World Nuclear Police Patrol.
Middleman,
Human beings can’t bear too much reality. The thought of a crude nuke going off in an american (or european) city is so horrifying that you don’t want to accept it.
Hitler made it perfectly clear in Mein Kampf that the outbreak of war would mean the destruction of European jewry. He said it, literally. No one wanted to believe it.
Osama Bin Laden has said – explicitly – that it is a religious duty of every muslim to acquire nuclear weapons and use them against the United States.
If you think the Iranians will not give the most serious consideration to whether they can slip a nuke to a terrorist group and get away with it, you are deluding yourself. The Iranian leadership is wickedly amoral. Sure, perhaps they will conclude that it’s too risky. But don’t bet on it. These people, especially Ahmadinejad, are apocalyptic and brutal.
I’ve heard that the Arab street was extremely happy with Obama’s speech.
48. Meryl:
Can someone produce any evidence that any of our elected officials (Democrat or Republican) actually have a point where they will publicly say that hussein obama is failing to uphold his oath to protect and defend the United States and the Constitution?
Where is it? Will it be when the lights in Washington go out due to terrorists at the power station?
Where is that point? When 14 Senators’ dead bodies are lined up on the mall, with grenades tied to them?
When IED’s start going off in Tampa?
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When IED’s start going of on the Hill and pieces of marble fall to the ground. lib’s don’t care about Tampa. As for the Seantor’s with grenades locked on their bodies, only if they are ultra-liberal senators.
Vivo,
Most of these countries are compliant signatories of the non-proliferation treaty. They submit to inspections. Iran does not. Most of them have no weapons programs. Iran does, and do you really, in your heart of hearts, believe that Iran is NOT developing nukes? Of course you don’t, though I wonder whether you would admit it here.
But the most obvious point is that those that do have nukes mostly have them under proper regulation. That’s the difference. Iran is a rogue state – it had thumbed its nose at the IAEA and refuses to let its facilities be inspected. Blind freddie can see that, but you choose not to.
Who was it – TS Eliot? – who said that humans can’t bear too much reality? You’re a good example!
Chuck Pelto,
Yes, I would bet on that, and if someone attempted to detonate a nuclear device in the US, it would most likely be a right-wing extremist. Check Turner Diaries, and James G. Cummings.
Re Fred’s comment to “The Shadow” and Pat J about why they bother to come here since they use the term “wingnut” and basically contribute nothing to the conversation…
If I might offer up a reason they do the above, have you ever read any of the comments on the Huffington Post or the Daily Kos (both liberal bastians of group-thought)? One quick peek will tell you EXACTLY why they come here. Here there is intelligent conversation and the back and forth of ideas and commentary. There it’s all “we won so suck it dudes” postings. Trust me. It’s ugliness personified.
Vivo:
Wonderful example of moral equivalence. South Korea = Iran or North Korea right. Look at South Korea and North Korea on a satellite map sometime. South Korea is brightly lit the North is dark. Why because South Korea is a Democracy where the political leadership answers to the will of the people and North Korea is a dictatorship where the people are now so brainwashed they worship their political leadership as gods, in Iran they aren’t gods themselves just his spokesman. Somehow I don’t think S. Korea is a threat to the rest of the world. N. Korea I am not so sure about. NEVER EVER EVER COMPARE THE US TO THOSE REGIMES AGAIN. You on the left may believe that we are an evil country or that Israel or S. Korea are oppressive but you know absolutely nothing about what a really evil regime is like. God willing we will never find out.
Pull back! Pull back from far mongering and religious bigotry. Pull back from pre-emptive wear. Pull back from colonialism. Pull back from torture. Pullback from narcissistic foreign policy. Pull back!
If politics were sex Obama would make a great lover. He always says the right words to make a woman’s heart skip a beat. Sooner or later love becomes mundane as substance overtakes even the sweetest words. It might work with desperate naive Americans who are like google eyed teenagers worshipping a matinee idol not with wordly ancient people’s like the Moslem crowd he addressed. Some might be impressed with Obama’s speech but what he said is really nothing new. Basically he used common sense but common sense doesn’t work here. Those factions made it clear even before the speech to nullify anything Obama might offer. The Iranians and the representatives of post Osama Al Qaeda will never board the Obama express. The question is whether his words will change the current status quo. It won’t. First of all Israel is being thrown under the bus. It will be asked to compromise in the name of peace yet again while asking nothing from their enemies. Their enemies as I noted before will never yield until Israel is annihilated and America is inconsequential. No matter how sweet the look of this tart its taste leaves much to be desired.
If the agents of Iran/Nork/Al-Q crew does manage a non-fizzle detonation in a largish city, and if the Nuclear Emergency Response folks do figure out where the U-235 came from, Obama won’t do anything. I’m sure glad I bought a house on the other side of the hill from a largish city. The gamma flash won’t hit us directly… and we just might have time to duck and cover before the shock wave rolls over.
I heard that the arabs were impressed with boobama quoting the quran. Otherwise they asked where is the plan, where is the substance.
Here we knew he could quote the quran and we’ve been asking where’s the plan and where’s the substance ever since he started talking.
So we’re basically on the same page
Post 44 The Shadow:
Unfortunately, one who is totally in the dark, your words will be long forgotten before we can dredge it up when America has gone down the drain thanks to Obama’s and the Democrat’s policies. I didn’t and couldn’t vote for any Democrat at this time much less one who has zero experience. Even Palin had more experience than Obama and she was running for VP, a back-up position. Senators make laws. Governors make state laws and act as executives too, therefore, are more able to govern an entire nation. We are witnessing how ignorant and simple Obama’s foreign policies are. It’s as if he had no prior history of worldly affairs because if he had his words would have been far different. Obama just says words people want to hear. Obama sees things a certain way but I don’t think he’s using deductive reasoning. How could he when he asks Israel to endanger its sovereignty without guaranteeing its safety? How can he demand Israel accept a two state solution when Palestinians are bent on Israel’s destruction? The entire Moslem world is so one dimensional. Either you are a Moslem, and even more a certain Moslem, or you are non-existant. They are like current domestic liberals. Either you think like us or you are meaningless. How could a name like Barack Hussein Obama become President so soon? Could you imagine a name like Heshel Schmuel Rabinowitz as President of Saudi Arabia? A person with a name like Obama’s would be President in some bizarre future out of a science fiction novel but people like you made it happen. Congratulations.
fred said “And if you don’t like our opinions, why do you come here and comment? The vast majority of us have at least the wisdom and decency to not post what we think over in your world on the other side.
Unless you are paid to come here…”
Why? Alternative media like Pajamas Media makes a difference. They come here because they must try and refute that which the leftist controlled mainstream will not touch. The fact that they are here is proof.
@65. sheesh:
When you suggest to expunge religious “bigotry” you meant Christianity – and I am sure about it. Your demigod, the Kenyan Boy praised Allah and the Islamic religion just one day ago – a truly doctrinaire, brutal and merciless cult – yet you find it majestic and elevating, undisturbed by the fact that Islam is a political system which is not separated from the State and Sharia is supreme. The doctrinaire theocracy is OK if it targets the Western civilization what you and the Marxists hate.
I am Eastern European, well acquainted with your ideology for we lived over 70 years under the rule similar scumbags than your Messiah until we kicked them out.
It’s interesting to behold that Americans voluntarily worship this Kenyan nobody whose head spinning left to right and back like a whether vane – to read the teleprompter written by some unknown person.
Personality cult at it best – for no reason since he achieved nothing in his life, did he?
And never look into your eyes…haven’t you noticed yet?
Not even Stalin was adored that much, only the fear made the people joyful at his sighting … only Hitler speeches could elicit such a torrent of enthusiasm – I am referring to his oratorical skill and charisma, not to his policy.
#65 Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh, too bad your daddy didn’t “pull out” in time when you were a gleam in his eye!
Obama is on a clear mission. To Islamitize the USA and destroy Israel.
How is this a surprise to anyone other then the most delusional of his most liberal followers?
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i just wondered if the big O said we are a muslim nation with 7 million some count 3 million. shouldn’t he say we are an illegal Hispanic nation with over 12 million illegals? just being morally equivalent.how many god fearing people in the United States of dhimmitude?
There can be only one explanation for a President who is so clearly working to;
1, Weaken America
2, Strengthen her enemies
3, Betray her allies
4, Destroy Israel.
Obama is a Muslim.
#48 Where is the tipping point? We need a majority in the senate to impeach?? Or a super-majority. What if every republican who would like to be re-elected would start a list of treasons and start yelling about them every day. (Probably too much to hope they might do it as their patriotic duty, or even for love of country.)
Are they doing anything useful now? Raising money and trying to shut the barn door? Horses are gone now. If they were getting their heads and their arguments together, they wouldn’t have to campaign next time. They would have to be honest. But that’s not a bad way to live. When we are as bad as the dems, and there’s no choice, who can blame the people who choose the bad penny. Sometimes they are both bad.
We the voters who think need to start expressing a Christian world view. I’m not here to sell Christianity. But the Christian world view is the opposite of the post-modern world view that we are now fighting. Things like real truth. A nation of, by, and for the people. Small government. Privacy isn’t just about abortions. Such a world view cannot stand very long without the absolute rock of Christianity behind it.
We also need to sell it. We need to yell our heads off about the violations of the Constitution. Otherwise, some muslim will cut them off. With a dull knife. We can’t expect the polititians to do it all.
Don’t be a gentleman!! Be an ass. Get the word out. If your spouse or your kids were in danger, you wouldn’t be polite to the killer!! WELL THEY ARE IN DANGER!!!!!
Does Teleprompter Guy EVER go into ANY detail in these grandiose speeches? Ever?
He loves hearing his own voice, you think he’d be specific at some point.
Smoke and mirrors. He’s the quintessential ‘I’ll lay it out you play it out’ empty suit of modern time. There is not 1 original, endearing or provoking thought this guy has said off the cuff.. teleprompter free so to speak! Believe me, I WANT to hear it, heck it’s inevitable. Right? Sigh..
TO: Muddleman
RE: You TRULY ARE….
….a ‘jackass’.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. Do you live in a rather largish, metropolitan target area?
TO: cheryl, et al.
RE: I’ve Heard….
….pretty much the same.
And, thinking upon history, I’m reminded of Neville Chamberlain.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Qui desiderat pacem — praeparat bellum. -- Vegetius]
“Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh, too bad your daddy didn’t “pull out” in time when you were a gleam in his eye!”
Actually whyimnotsurprised, he did. But you remember that goat his mum kept in the yard….
Furthermore, that wasn’t a “gleam”. That was the dull glint of stupidity.
“Pull back! Pull back from far mongering and religious bigotry. Pull back from pre-emptive wear.”
Ha ha hasheeeesh, which is what this doofus must be smoking in Obamic quantities. But I do love the imagery.
“far mongering”. Is that like a knew hip term for telling people to get lost, dude? If so then I’m a far-mongerer as far as sheeesh is concerned.
And what to make of “pre-emptive wear” is anybody’s guess. A tin hat and a condom maybe? Or maybe it means those frumpy clothes mummy makes him/her wear to school that pre-empt him/her from ever getting a date.
If anybody is paying this illitate Obameramous to pen these pathetic screeds, they’re wasting their money bigtime.
At this point I have to wonder: What will become of the faithful when the Holy Land is turned into radioactive toast.
61. lefroy:
“Most of these countries are compliant signatories of the non-proliferation treaty. They submit to inspections. Iran does not.”
I understand that. All I’m trying to say is that with all those countries having nuclear technology, anything goes.
64. Uriel: ditto.
76.ReB
Yes.
I do NOT understand how our elected officials can look themselves in the mirror today.
They apparently do not understand (even if they are only interested in their own re-election)that they could make headlines and win polls (since that since to be important to those drinking from the Potomac) by simply asserting their support for the Constitution.
Are they so afraid?
If they are, they need to resign and let someone who is not so afraid take their place.
DR. T
#31
Curiously, I’ve often wondered the same thing, myself. It would help serve to explain why he defends the release of his certificate of live birth, and college records so tenaciously. Hmmmm……….
S.M.
#37 BobNWeave:
And please, before another comment on the Jews who voted Obama or Jews among his entourage — Jews are and have been one of the more disunited tribes, especially when not under pressure. From Babylon to Moscow, there have been plenty among them willing to throw their tribe under the bus.
Sigh. Too true. These are the same morons who, after seeing what the Nazis did to Jews in Europe, support gun control.
Your Messiah is kissing the ass of those who want to kill all Jews! When are you going to wait the f up? When the sword is hovering above your neck or the shrapnel from the suicide bomber is hurling in your direction, it will be too late!!
Om…..om……
I read in one of the English papers that if the Muslims want to destroy the US they better hurry or Obama is going to beat them to it.The Russians are saying we are moving toward Marxism as a rapid rate of speed,and that idiot in Venezuela says Obama is farther to the left then he is. Wake up America.
Chuckle,
Yes, I live right smack dab near the middle of a large metropolitian area, but I grew up living within 5 miles of a Soviet primary target so the nuke business is nothing new.
To Meryl (48):
It seems Obozo has an approval rating of 65%, so don’t expect any action to be taken anytime soon. The American people have more serious concerns, like who the next American Idol is, what celebrity will break down next, and how they can get their hands on some government bailout money or entitlement. To most Americans, the threat from Islamofascism is as remote as the threat of British troops marching through their towns and taking quarter in their houses.
Our educational system is spitting out self-entitled morons at an alarming rate imbibing left wing PC multiculti non-judgmental garbage. College is no more than a high priced day care center/brothel and left wing indoctrination center. When you ask young people what they are concerned about, the #1 answer is global warming/climate change, followed by (not in order): abortion, racial/social “justice” and gay marriage.
It will take a lot to get anyone in government to act. When the 1st Islamic attack on American soil occurred in 1993, “only” 6 were killed, so no effective anti-terrorist response was initiated. The 9/11 attack had a 3-figure death toll, so the government was forced to do something, even the democrats, who approved Gitmo and enhanced interrogation. HOwever, BUsh did not have much of a spine, and gradually lost whatever spine he had by his second term. His response was to declare Islam a religion of peace, and change the name of the Afghan op to avoid offending Muslims.His rules of engagement were so wimpy that soldiers were court-martialed for actions deemed too offensive or at the behest of enemy propaganda.
We will have to see a five or six figure death toll before anything will happen. “Lone jihadists” that kill several people will not suffice. It will take a mushroom cloud in an American city, an electromagnetic pulse, and over 100,000 dead civilians. UNfortunately, the government is prepared to sacrifice us to appease our enemies and avoid being seen as racist or islamophobic. Those who see this should brace for impact when the train hits the wall with Obozo as the engineer. Our politicians could care less since we who see this have no power or “victim/ethnic grievance points” to sway Washington. Don’t count on republicans to help us either. THey are cowards at heart and more interested in the money and power and the vote of some special interest group. They do not defend conservative values once they are in power, and will run for cover as soon as they are lobbed with verbal hand grenades (“racist,” “mean-spirited,” etc) by the demonrats.
TO: Thomas, et al
RE: sheesh ‘Logic’
Isn’t it interesting that sheesh’s ‘logic’, along with his fellow idiots, David S, vivo, et al., require christians to ‘behave’. And NEVER for the other side to.
Sounds like another candidate to go spread the ‘good word’ of ‘peace’ to Al Qaeda….
…..and end up with a ‘special’ just for them on YouTube.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out......sheesh is a shill for militant Islam.....]
TO: eurobitopian, et al.
RE: Indeed….
….he is. And he even admitted to it via a freudian slip-up to Stephanopolis on one of those Sunday Morning news shows.
But, as you stated in your list, the truth REALLY comes out in his actions.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out.....Obama plays Neville Chamberlain to the militant Islam....]
TO: Muddleman
RE: What’s This???!?!
You lived in Belleview, Nebraska?!??!!!
HOMIE!!!!
RE: BUT…..
So you grew up outside of Offutt Air Force Base, Strategic Air Command headquarters. I grew up, partially, ON the #1 target for Soviet attack. And I was there during the Cuban thingie. Dad was a combat crew commander in the ICBM squadron there. Bags were packed BY THE DOOR.
If he got the call, we all hit the door running. He to his battle position, we to the family stomping grounds in northern Wisconsin.
…..BUT….
The Sovs were rational beings. Not like these Islamic idiots.
So the probability of a nuke going off where YOU live today if significantly higher than it was back in the Cold War (c. 50s-80s).
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. Sleep tight…..
The Holocaust shouldn’t have given the jewish people the right to remove people off their land.
A lot of people died durning WW2, yet they get the Arabs land and keep expanding ,soon Palistine will be no more.
Go back to the origial borders.
And there may be peace some day.
TO: Clay
RE: Obviously….
….you didn’t learn much from history classes.
Palestine was a state CREATED by the Romans after they crushed the Jewish rebellion of 66 AD and slaughtered, enslaved or otherwise dispersed the Jews from Israel.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. The re-establishment of the state of Israel is just fulfillment of prophecy….whether you like it or not….
P.P.S. And as for ‘peace’? There will be no such thing until He returns. That too, whether you like it or not…..
Clay, the Palestinians were not interested in Israel’s land until the Jews created the country; this is about Palestine’s wish to destroy the rest of the Jews Hitler’s Holocaust did not kill. It’s not about the land.
To – 89. Trainwreck:
“It seems Obozo has an approval rating of 65%, so don’t expect any action to be taken anytime soon.”
I’ve decided that number is as fake as HussO himself. There are a ton of liberals where I live, mostly college students and academics, and many of them are regretting their vote already. Just like anything else, there’s a way to corrupt the polls and you can bet your bottom dollar that the current crop knows how to manipulate them.
Regards
To – 90. Chuck Pelto:
“Isn’t it interesting that sheesh’s ‘logic’, along with his fellow idiots, David S, vivo, et al., require christians to ‘behave’. And NEVER for the other side to.”
It’ll be even more interesting what kind of short bus thinking he has when the equal and opposite reaction to this idiot and his crowd comes about.
Regards
TO: Rashputin
RE: Heh
Woe to them who call ‘evil’ good and ‘good’ evil.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[If you've got your priorities bass-ackward, nothing in Life will go right.]
Retreat or a bold step forward? I guess it depends on what you might be stepping in (on.)
TO: Pat J
RE: History….
….thought the same of Neville Chamberlain’s ‘bold step forward’.
And as a result….
….how many MILLIONS died in the next five years?
Show me an historical reference of where Obama’s approach HAS worked?
By the way….
Russia and China are both gearing up for war with US. Have been since September 1999, when Bill Clinton broke the last of all HIS ‘bridge-building’ promises to Russia over Kosovo.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Qui deserat pacem?]
Clay Clay Clay…the Nation of Israel is such a tiny percentage of the available land in the Middle East, such a small amount, what could possibly justify the Arab insistence that Israel be destroyed. Could it be that Israel is inhabited by Jews?? Yep, I’ll bet that’s it. It matters not at all what borders are set, what boundaries are used to define Israel. The Arabs will never settle for a Jewish state. Never. Not until the next or some generation of Arab children are taught that Israeli’s are their neighbors and have the right to exist will there be peace. Not until that time. Now my proposal is to establish a Palestinian state. That, of course, will not be enough to satisfy the Arabs and they will continue to attack and murder Israeli’s, however with the establishment of a Palestinian state the Israeli’s now have the means to destroy the Palestinian infrastructure and push the survivors in to Jordan where the true Palestinian state is, anyway.
“….thought the same of Neville Chamberlain’s ‘bold step forward’.”
So did I. You want to go get a burger and then shoot something?
98. Rashputin . . . “Isn’t it interesting that sheesh’s ‘logic’, along with his fellow idiots, David S, vivo, et al., require christians to ‘behave’. And NEVER for the other side to.”
Sorry Czarina, you have me confused with a Republican. I’m not into forbidding things, that’s a conservative’s job. You’re fine as long as you get to tell people what to do. The minute you can’t do that, you start to whine. Christians are incapable of behaving. I believe that’s one of the tenets of the faith.
TO: Pat J
RE: Yeah….
….but as I pointed out, and you apparently don’t quite ‘understand’, Neville, the ‘liberals/progressives’ of his time and you were dead wrong. To the tune of 73 million dead, civilian and military.
Care to roll those dice again?
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Those who do not remember their history are DOOMED to relive it.]
P.S. Besides….
…..I’m too busy preparing supper and making raspberry frozen yogurt to go get a burger and then ‘shoot’ something.
89.trainwreck
“Our politicians could care less since we who see this have no power or “victim/ethnic grievance points” to sway Washington. Don’t count on republicans to help us either. THey are cowards at heart and more interested in the money and power and the vote of some special interest group. They do not defend conservative values once they are in power, and will run for cover as soon as they are lobbed with verbal hand grenades (”racist,” “mean-spirited,” etc) by the demonrats.”……..
I agree with your take on the repubs here, which is why I’m tossing a big net and looking for ANY elected official to start making some simple observations.
Appreciate your comments and fear that you are right–we’ll need 5 figure losses before they take action.
Right now I’d like to see that Capitol steps singalong of “God Bless America” from 9-12 blown up, distributed to every congressional office and ask them to reassert that they have the same concern today. Of course they don’t. I know that.
I just wish there was some way to force verbal accountability for what is being said by King Fraud and what is NOT being said and done by our elected representatives.
It’ll play out. It always does. At what cost? With what remaining? With what potential for recovery?
to 104. sheesh:
I see you’re still channeling retarded dead people, so knock yourself out. I understand that you project your own faults onto others, so it’s good that you tried to interact with the rational folks here.
have a nice day
@106. Chuck Pelto:
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Only kidding about the burger stuff. The thing about Chamberlain was he meant well, but he was so totally wrong. I don’t even think he deserves to be called a “liberal/progessive” as you put it. If anything he was a dupe. Hitler played him for a fool. And 73 million people died.
And I very much understand. My late mother was out on the streets of Bristol when the blitz hit. A stranger pulled her into an alley as a bomb hit and then disappeared. to this day I believe as she believed that she was saved by her guardian angel.
So, I did roll those dice with the first presidential candidate I felt truly comfortable with in voting for since I was old enough to vote. There is something about Obama that gives me great hope for the future of this country and this world. He’s not a messiah. He’s a man. I think we should all give him a chance.
108 Czarina . . . “projection?” . . . Wow, had to dig all the way down to the bottom of the conservative “barrel of non-responsive responses” for that one, eh? That’s OK. Trop out the old irrelevant favorites as you feel the need. I didn’t expect anything of substance, and you delivered.
Keep up the good work. There’s a merit badge coming your way, my little Webelo. Hey, that’s got a nice ring to it . . . Czarina Webelo . . . enjoy your new name.
TO: Pat J
RE: Yeah….
….and a lot of people felt that way about Jimmy Carter, too.
I learned from MY mistake. But it only cost 52 people 444 days held hostage.
With YOUR ‘gamble’, it may cost a LOT MORE.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. The big difference between Carter and Obama is that Carter was just naive. Obama’s naive AND a liar AND, apparently, bent on bring this country ‘down’.
104. sheesh:
90. Chuck Pelto:
98. Rashputin ”
“Christians are incapable of behaving. I believe that’s one of the tenets of the faith.”
Peltito and Rash are good examples. Xtians deserve criticism because they brake their rules all the time. As for Pelto’s “other side” (whatever that means), we are free to not follow the Xtians rules. (I wrote this just to stir the wasp nest).
TO: vivo
RE: [OT]And….
….which rules are those? Furthermore, if the rules are ‘broken’, as in the murder of Tiller, was that a REAL christian that did it?
I look forward to wonderful demonstrations of your ignorance.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. Please cite your reference to these ‘rules’….Book/Chapter/Verse….
TO: All
RE: [OT] Additionally….
…..’progressives’ have no rules. Therefore there are not rules for them to ‘break’. So it’s anything goes, as long as they can ‘justify’ it. That includes murder, e.g., abortion.
And, coming soon…..
….euthanasia of the elderly or ‘not quite up to their standard’ newborns….
….under the proposed government-’managed’ health care system.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out.....]
Obama’s shrewd hypocrisy, masquerading with Elie Wiesel at Buchenwald death camp in Germany 24 hours after placing no growth quota’s on Jewish suburbs in Israel. It’s inherent of this administration to verbally reassure skeptical Jews who may feel somewhat threatened by it’s worrisome actions. The intention is to quell protest and stymie concern with symbolic gestures such as a passover meal, or a visit to a concentration camp. For those of us not fooled, it stokes a familiar tenor & entertains our greatest fears.
My guess is Obama’s not really Kenyan- he’s obviously French…..
A great read that compliments this piece:
http://www.carolineglick.com/e/
CAIRO SPEECH REVEALS THE INNER OBAMA
The world sees a self-centered Utopian, hears some Bush speak and gets no new information. Lots of hope, no change.
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/06/common-sense-review-of-obamas-cairo.html
113. Chuck Pelto:
“as in the murder of Tiller, was that a REAL christian that did it?”
Of course, you know that very well, are you playing the spin game? How Xtian.
“P.S. Please cite your reference to these ‘rules’….Book/Chapter/Verse….”
I don’t read bibles or korans or whatever you read.
TO: All
RE: vivo….
….admits to being one of the most ignorant people on planet Earth.
All of his knowledge of his ‘enemy’ is dreamed up in his head, as he never reads books about them.
Additionally, I suspect vivo is proud of his ignorance, as he certainly sounds like it in his comment.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Stupid, adj., Ignorant and proud of it.]
120. Chuck Pelto:
Why should I read lies?
Of course I have read some of it before and was totally disgusted by the farce. You still enjoy it because you are more moronic than you care to accept. You style of writing is so pedantic it reveals the squirming bug trying to look like a butterfly. Try to be more honest and people would see the deranged mensaholic mind, or maybe the little cuddly bear . . .
TO: All
RE: Confirmation….
….of my earlier comment regarding vivo’s stupidity.
The Soviet Union was based on a totality of ‘lies’, but we in the military studied them extensively.
And where is the Soviet Union now?
Defunct.
Then again, let’s see if vivo can explain away an almost 2000 year old series of prophecies that have come true in the last 24 years.
I mean…..
….we’re talking REAL ‘stupid’ in vivo.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out....and vivo's stupidity is going to be VERY apparent to even the most casual observer.....]
122. Chuck Pelto:
“let’s see if vivo can explain away an almost 2000 year old series of prophecies that have come true in the last 24 years.”
And they will come true again in the next 24 years, and the next 24, and the next 24 as long as people keep reading all that nonsense.
You know, there is a good Tarot, hand reader in your neighborhood.
It seems clear that Obama doesn’t really mind or care whether or not Iran gets nuclear weapons. He’s already floating the idea of letting them have nuclear power, even though there’s just a small leap from having nuclear power to having nuclear weapons. Obama reminds me of a story Krushev once said during the Cuban Missile Crisis. He said there once was a poor farmer who did not have a barn and, during an especially cold winter, was forced to bring the farm animals into his house so they’d survive. The farmer didn’t like the smell, but in time he got used to it. Krushev said that the Americans wouldn’t like the idea of missiles in Cuba but, in time, would get used to it. I really think Obama believes the same thing about the Iranians. People (especially the Israelis) don’t like the idea of Iran having nuclear weapons, but, in time, they will get “used to it.” Problem is, will people still accept this idea once the Iranians actually start using these weapons?
TO: All
RE: vivo & Stupidity
Yeah….
….we’ll have another run-away nuclear reactor at Chernobyl.
This character is truly ‘stupid’ in the most classic sense.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out.....]
Chuck Pelto (125)
I posted a detailed but non-profane suggestion of what will hopefully be the fate of those like vivo, but apparently it was too tart, specific, or just considered tacky and unruly.
Essentially, I doubt those like vivo are prepared for the consequences of supporting the current politically correct policies because they refuse to think things through, even if they may occasionlly be capable of doing so.
When they’re being told that it’s not economical to treat their own children, or being told that due to their age they are to be placed on the, “lives not worth living” list, I wonder who or what they will be blaming for the dire results?
Regards
TO: Rashputin
RE: They….
“….I wonder who or what they will be blaming for the dire results?” — Rashputin
….won’t be around to ‘blame’ anyone. If I understand the new and improve ‘health care’ program.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. And neither will we…..