Comments on: Obama, Lay Off Black Fathers! http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:45:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Patrice http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-571641 Patrice Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:16:06 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-571641 Excuses, excuses. somebody need to say something. Those absentee fathers know who they are. Society needs to stop defending them. I get so sick of that sh*t.Yall need to stop leaving your children and man up! Blaming your absence on the mother! Excuses, excuses. somebody need to say something. Those absentee fathers know who they are. Society needs to stop defending them. I get so sick of that sh*t.Yall need to stop leaving your children and man up! Blaming your absence on the mother!

]]> By: Duke Jones http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-259273 Duke Jones Wed, 13 May 2009 19:53:03 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-259273 Mr. Obama is doing exactly what us white folks want. He is not creating jobs for black men and could care less. Black men have drugs to sell. It's your career model right bros? Mr. Obama is creating jobs only for white folks and illegal aliens. Thanks man. Unless black men are willing to rise up and organize they can forget about work in America. I'll throw a dime in your cup when I se you begging on the street. Black men don't help other black men. So why should Obama and guys like me help/ Mr. Obama is doing exactly what us white folks want. He is not creating jobs for black men and could care less. Black men have drugs to sell. It’s your career model right bros? Mr. Obama is creating jobs only for white folks and illegal aliens. Thanks man. Unless black men are willing to rise up and organize they can forget about work in America. I’ll throw a dime in your cup when I se you begging on the street. Black men don’t help other black men. So why should Obama and guys like me help/

]]> By: JaciUK http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-126728 JaciUK Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:03:59 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-126728 Absent black fathers in the UK is also an issue. There has even been official government research into absent fathers and to sum up the statistics 59% of black families had missing fathers. 55% of mixed families (black fathers) had missing fathers. 22% of white families. Black men in the UK have different cultral experiences than men in the US yet the results are the same. This is now a worldwide problem and to all who contribute to these statistics (and you know who you are!) you are the people that can change this. Absent black fathers in the UK is also an issue. There has even been official government research into absent fathers and to sum up the statistics 59% of black families had missing fathers. 55% of mixed families (black fathers) had missing fathers. 22% of white families.

Black men in the UK have different cultral experiences than men in the US yet the results are the same. This is now a worldwide problem and to all who contribute to these statistics (and you know who you are!) you are the people that can change this.

]]> By: ruddyturnstone http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-83241 ruddyturnstone Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:40:44 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-83241 And where are the "single mothers" in all this, African-American or otherwise? These bad absantee fathers aren't making these babies on their own, and then dumping them in the laps of poor, unsuspecting women, are they? High school girls and young women, of all races, are having unprotected sex with boys and men who are obviously not ready or willing, and often not even able, to be fathers emotionally or economically. The girls and women themselves are often not ready emotionally to be mothers, and are rarely financially able to pay for the baby's needs on their own. Yes, the boys and men are irresponsible too. Both genders of whatever race are irresponsible. Both are to blame for children growing up with only parent, usually the mother, and in poverty. There are numerous forms of contraceptives out there. Often, they are made available free to women and girls. Even if they must be sexually active without being in a stable relationship with a man who at least might be father "material," there is still no excuse for them getting pregnant. Again, this is not to say the boys and men are not without fault too; they too could have, and should have, either abstained or used contraceptives. But Obama, Bill Cosby and all the rest of the lecturers, White and Black, always single out the African American men for their fire and brimstone. Where was Barky on Mothers' Day, and what was he doing? I don't know, but you can bet your bottom dollar that he wasn't in Black church vituperating Black mothers for having babies with men who they know, or should know, aren't going to be around for them emotionally or financially. If Barky, or anyone else, would even gently and softly mention such a thing, he or she would be crucified. "Single mothers," you see, are saints. How could they have known that the 16 year old high school boy they were having sex with would not make as good a father as Bill Cosby on his TV show? No, it's all the big, bad, Black man's fault. It must be. What a win-win situation for Barky. He knows that few to no African Americans are going to oppose him no matter what he says. He knows that many White Americans just love hearing Black people (which is something Barky pretends to be) talk shit about each other. And, in this case, he gets to do that without offending Black Women, or women in general. Yep, Barky says, it's all the Black man's fault. Hear that Mr. and Mrs. Racist White American? Hear that Ms. Full of Shit Feminist? Hear that Black women? It's all "our" fault. All these shiftless black men are just like my shiftless black father. We are to blame. To which a Black man might legitimately respond: Who's "we" white man? And where are the “single mothers” in all this, African-American or otherwise? These bad absantee fathers aren’t making these babies on their own, and then dumping them in the laps of poor, unsuspecting women, are they? High school girls and young women, of all races, are having unprotected sex with boys and men who are obviously not ready or willing, and often not even able, to be fathers emotionally or economically. The girls and women themselves are often not ready emotionally to be mothers, and are rarely financially able to pay for the baby’s needs on their own. Yes, the boys and men are irresponsible too. Both genders of whatever race are irresponsible. Both are to blame for children growing up with only parent, usually the mother, and in poverty. There are numerous forms of contraceptives out there. Often, they are made available free to women and girls. Even if they must be sexually active without being in a stable relationship with a man who at least might be father “material,” there is still no excuse for them getting pregnant. Again, this is not to say the boys and men are not without fault too; they too could have, and should have, either abstained or used contraceptives.

But Obama, Bill Cosby and all the rest of the lecturers, White and Black, always single out the African American men for their fire and brimstone. Where was Barky on Mothers’ Day, and what was he doing? I don’t know, but you can bet your bottom dollar that he wasn’t in Black church vituperating Black mothers for having babies with men who they know, or should know, aren’t going to be around for them emotionally or financially. If Barky, or anyone else, would even gently and softly mention such a thing, he or she would be crucified.

“Single mothers,” you see, are saints. How could they have known that the 16 year old high school boy they were having sex with would not make as good a father as Bill Cosby on his TV show? No, it’s all the big, bad, Black man’s fault. It must be. What a win-win situation for Barky. He knows that few to no African Americans are going to oppose him no matter what he says. He knows that many White Americans just love hearing Black people (which is something Barky pretends to be) talk shit about each other. And, in this case, he gets to do that without offending Black Women, or women in general.

Yep, Barky says, it’s all the Black man’s fault. Hear that Mr. and Mrs. Racist White American? Hear that Ms. Full of Shit Feminist? Hear that Black women? It’s all “our” fault. All these shiftless black men are just like my shiftless black father. We are to blame.

To which a Black man might legitimately respond: Who’s “we” white man?

]]> By: Percy http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-75152 Percy Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:42:14 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-75152 I am sick of tired of Obama slamming black fathers to get political brownie points with mainstream white America and black women. Last time I had checked, half or more of white American house holds are raised by single women. I am a 37 year old college educated black male and this is so bad that I may not vote for Obama in the fall. How dare Obama attack black fathers for the last couple of Father Days. Why doesn't Obama lecture white churches about personal responsibility when 50% or more of their households are raised by single or divorce white women? This just shows how out of touch Obama is with the black community. Obama's black African dad divorce or left his mom and so did is Asian step dad. Black men do not have monopolies on dead beat dads, domestic violence, and crime. Tell me which is worse: A black man that has 5-6 kids by 5-6 women or a black woman that has 5-6 kids by 5-6 men? The main reason that black men are not in the households is that young black men and women between ages 15-40 fight like hell over every least little thing. Most black men are tired of working 8-12 hours days and some times even 2 jobs and coming home fighting and arguing with a black woman over everything. You have 3 choses: 1)You can sit there and take it and die of a stroke or heart attack at one of those premature ages. 2)You can continue to fight and argue, with may lead to violence. 3)You can leave and find another woman that you have more peace or get along with. You will not read this in neither Ebony nor Esscence Magazine, and definitely not see this on Oprah! I understand completely what Rev. Jackson was saying about Obama. In fact, some one needs to punch Obama in the mouth. Obama has more in common with the white immigrant experience than he does with the black American experience. This guy is not one of us. I love and care about the black community, but I am tired of black women, politicians, and the mainstream white media united in attacking blackmen for the last 25-30 years. Some one needs to call these people out for this nonsense. In the bigger picture, both black men and black women have a lot of cleaning up to do in our black communities, but this myth that black men are soley responsible for the demise of the black family and community needs to stop. I am sick of tired of Obama slamming black fathers to get political brownie points with mainstream white America and black women. Last time I had checked, half or more of white American house holds are raised by single women. I am a 37 year old college educated black male and this is so bad that I may not vote for Obama in the fall. How dare Obama attack black fathers for the last couple of Father Days. Why doesn’t Obama lecture white churches about personal responsibility when 50% or more of their households are raised by single or divorce white women? This just shows how out of touch Obama is with the black community. Obama’s black African dad divorce or left his mom and so did is Asian step dad. Black men do not have monopolies on dead beat dads, domestic violence, and crime. Tell me which is worse: A black man that has 5-6 kids by 5-6 women or a black woman that has 5-6 kids by 5-6 men? The main reason that black men are not in the households is that young black men and women between ages 15-40 fight like hell over every least little thing. Most black men are tired of working 8-12 hours days and some times even 2 jobs and coming home fighting and arguing with a black woman over everything. You have 3 choses: 1)You can sit there and take it and die of a stroke or heart attack at one of those premature ages. 2)You can continue to fight and argue, with may lead to violence. 3)You can leave and find another woman that you have more peace or get along with. You will not read this in neither Ebony nor Esscence Magazine, and definitely not see this on Oprah! I understand completely what Rev. Jackson was saying about Obama. In fact, some one needs to punch Obama in the mouth. Obama has more in common with the white immigrant experience than he does with the black American experience. This guy is not one of us. I love and care about the black community, but I am tired of black women, politicians, and the mainstream white media united in attacking blackmen for the last 25-30 years. Some one needs to call these people out for this nonsense. In the bigger picture, both black men and black women have a lot of cleaning up to do in our black communities, but this myth that black men are soley responsible for the demise of the black family and community needs to stop.

]]> By: On Not Getting It. | SOHH Over It! http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-65153 On Not Getting It. | SOHH Over It! Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:03:24 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-65153 [...] Ooops: [...] [...] Ooops: [...]

]]> By: Are you Kidding??? http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-64169 Are you Kidding??? Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:38:41 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-64169 "Words, words, words. They don't reach me." The famous words in Remarque’s All Quiet on the Western Front can be interpreted many different ways, unless of course you have read the book. Not so here. After reading this piece, which I am surprised as hell was actually printed because it is so off-base and so poorly researched, I believe the following would suffice for the author (clearly blind and deaf to the conditions that exist around him): Reality, reality, reality. I just don't get it. Shame on PJM for allowing such a distorted view to find light. I am not sure what result the editors were looking for, but then again, neither did the author, and that is clear to all who read the piece. “Words, words, words. They don’t reach me.” The famous words in Remarque’s All Quiet on the Western Front can be interpreted many different ways, unless of course you have read the book. Not so here. After reading this piece, which I am surprised as hell was actually printed because it is so off-base and so poorly researched, I believe the following would suffice for the author (clearly blind and deaf to the conditions that exist around him): Reality, reality, reality. I just don’t get it. Shame on PJM for allowing such a distorted view to find light. I am not sure what result the editors were looking for, but then again, neither did the author, and that is clear to all who read the piece.

]]> By: kam http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-63923 kam Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:58:44 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-63923 dumb as hell. so poverty is the reason black men leave their families? so why is it that when black people were worse off economically - post slavery, pre-civil rights - black men STAYED and did WHATEVER to keep their families together. lame ass excuse. 75-85% of black children lived in two parent homes in the earlier decades of the 1900's - black people had much less wealth. we are now looking at the fruit of a 70% illegitimacy rate during a time when blacks are multimillionaires and billionaires. CAN WE ALL JUST GET A CLUE! dumb as hell. so poverty is the reason black men leave their families? so why is it that when black people were worse off economically
- post slavery, pre-civil rights – black men STAYED and did WHATEVER to keep their families together. lame ass excuse. 75-85% of black children lived in two parent homes in the earlier decades of the 1900′s – black people had much less wealth. we are now looking at the fruit of a 70% illegitimacy rate during a time when blacks are multimillionaires and billionaires. CAN WE ALL JUST GET A CLUE!

]]> By: chris http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-63222 chris Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:03:01 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-63222 Here’s the key graph of the foregoing piece: "A month before Obama made this stereotypical and plainly false assertion, Boston University professor Rebekah Levine Coley, in a comprehensive study on the black family, found that black fathers who aren’t in the home are much more likely to sustain regular contact with their children than absentee white fathers, or for that matter, fathers of any other ethnic group. The study is not an obscure study buried in the thick pages of a musty academic journal. It was widely cited in a feature article on black fathers in the May 19, 2008 issue of Newsweek. There was no excuse then to spout this myth. The facts are totally contrary to Obama’s knock." Excuse me? How is this plainly false, apart from your saying so? What makes the BU study comprehensive, apart from you and Newsweek saying so? Google "Rebekah Coley + black + study" and you end up with the Newsweek article and Hutchison’s editorial. Hmmm. Is this an unpublished study, or one soon to be published? But oh no, this is no “obscure study buried in the thick pages of a musty academic journal obscure study.” That sort of study might be available for all of us to read! “The facts are totally contrary to Obama’s knock.” How is that exactly? The ONLY fact you cite, Mr. Hutchison, is: “black fathers who aren’t in the home are much more likely to sustain regular contact with their children than absentee white fathers.” Uh, but isn’t the issue whether black fathers are more likely to be in the home in the first place? And you gotta admit, “contact” is a pretty neutral word. In my and your minds, I’m sure it connotes a doting father who re-arranges his weekend to make time for a baseball game with his son. But it probably also includes the dad who calls his kid to ask what mommy’s been up to and did she just get paid, or can you drive daddy to work today? And it would be useful to know the ages of the children, by race, when daddy left the home. Older kids are less likely to have regular contacts with their absent fathers than younger kids. Oh my bad, I forgot that the last fact I just wrote is just my opinion. I wouldn’t want you to mix up my facts with my prejudices. Here’s the key graph of the foregoing piece:

“A month before Obama made this stereotypical and plainly false assertion, Boston University professor Rebekah Levine Coley, in a comprehensive study on the black family, found that black fathers who aren’t in the home are much more likely to sustain regular contact with their children than absentee white fathers, or for that matter, fathers of any other ethnic group. The study is not an obscure study buried in the thick pages of a musty academic journal. It was widely cited in a feature article on black fathers in the May 19, 2008 issue of Newsweek. There was no excuse then to spout this myth. The facts are totally contrary to Obama’s knock.”

Excuse me? How is this plainly false, apart from your saying so? What makes the BU study comprehensive, apart from you and Newsweek saying so? Google “Rebekah Coley + black + study” and you end up with the Newsweek article and Hutchison’s editorial. Hmmm. Is this an unpublished study, or one soon to be published? But oh no, this is no “obscure study buried in the thick pages of a musty academic journal obscure study.” That sort of study might be available for all of us to read!

“The facts are totally contrary to Obama’s knock.” How is that exactly? The ONLY fact you cite, Mr. Hutchison, is: “black fathers who aren’t in the home are much more likely to sustain regular contact with their children than absentee white fathers.” Uh, but isn’t the issue whether black fathers are more likely to be in the home in the first place? And you gotta admit, “contact” is a pretty neutral word. In my and your minds, I’m sure it connotes a doting father who re-arranges his weekend to make time for a baseball game with his son. But it probably also includes the dad who calls his kid to ask what mommy’s been up to and did she just get paid, or can you drive daddy to work today? And it would be useful to know the ages of the children, by race, when daddy left the home. Older kids are less likely to have regular contacts with their absent fathers than younger kids. Oh my bad, I forgot that the last fact I just wrote is just my opinion. I wouldn’t want you to mix up my facts with my prejudices.

]]> By: Truth http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-63071 Truth Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:50:59 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-lay-off-black-fathers/#comment-63071 Ben It's true in some Black communities and I mean Ghetto types. There is a lot off pressure. But that is weak to fall victim to. I also went to a inner city school. I was cool, got dates played sports, got the grades, went to college, ect. I am doing fine. Didn't you "crack" back (dozens). When the fools played that game with me. I told them they were "idiots" and then told them "I'm gonna be the man screw you". And if we hung out and things didn't seem right I left. Peer pressure isn't new. Now I live in a town that is 70% Black( The price was right). And guess what the Majority of kids go on to college, technical school and or the military. The big difference is This a town of homeowners. Not that that makes them any better I just want to point out the economic difference. Ben
It’s true in some Black communities and I mean Ghetto types. There is a lot off pressure. But that is weak to fall victim to. I also went to a inner city school. I was cool, got dates played sports, got the grades, went to college, ect. I am doing fine. Didn’t you “crack” back (dozens). When the fools played that game with me. I told them they were “idiots” and then told them “I’m gonna be the man screw you”. And if we hung out and things didn’t seem right I left. Peer pressure isn’t new.

Now I live in a town that is 70% Black( The price was right). And guess what the Majority of kids go on to college, technical school and or the military. The big difference is This a town of homeowners. Not that that makes them any better I just want to point out the economic difference.

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