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	<title>Comments on: Obama Hits Neglectful Fathers — And, Of Course, McCain</title>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-hits-neglectful-fathers-and-of-course-mccain/#comment-61956</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no &#039;pivot to the center&#039; there is the just the same verbal BS that has been done in prior campaigns that signifies absolutely nothing. It is insulting in the extreme that the already biased Obamedia take Obama&#039;s self-interested poses as seriousness. It is not.  This abuse of a church pulpit for a political pander is attempting to white-wash if you will the extremist Rev Wright, Rev Pfleger, and the other &#039;faith&#039; connections Obama had. What church was this in? Trinity, the church he attended for 20 years, or another venue found for more suitable PR purposes? hmmmmm. 

Obama has the media 100% on his side, eager to cover his rear on his extremist associations, his left-liberal record, and his thin resume and lack of accomplishments. He is certainly the least qualify nominee for President in a long time. Yet we take his superficial style-over-substance campaign charades as serious; its one thing to observe a bomboozling, it is egregious to not acknowledge it as such.

Obama poses for change. So did Carter.
http://no-bama.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-is-another-jimmy-carter.html

Obama promises middle class tax cut. So did Clinton.  Then again, Obama is openly for multiple tax hikes, including boneheaded windfall profits tax.

Obama preaches against lobbyists - yet uses 527 loopholes that skirt the law. Obama has gotten hundreds of millions from lawyers and elites in these industries, including oil, power co, hedge funds, pharma, and of course big-time Hollywood exec money. Trial lawyers are big Democrat givers, and their payback was a $1.6 billion tax giveaway in the Democrat energy bill.

And so it goes. He preaches to Dads but pursuing an agenda hostile to Fathers and families on many levels, starting with his very hostility to protecting the rights of the unborn.

A vote for Obama is like a second marriage: the triumph of HOPE over EXPERIENCE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no &#8216;pivot to the center&#8217; there is the just the same verbal BS that has been done in prior campaigns that signifies absolutely nothing. It is insulting in the extreme that the already biased Obamedia take Obama&#8217;s self-interested poses as seriousness. It is not.  This abuse of a church pulpit for a political pander is attempting to white-wash if you will the extremist Rev Wright, Rev Pfleger, and the other &#8216;faith&#8217; connections Obama had. What church was this in? Trinity, the church he attended for 20 years, or another venue found for more suitable PR purposes? hmmmmm. </p>
<p>Obama has the media 100% on his side, eager to cover his rear on his extremist associations, his left-liberal record, and his thin resume and lack of accomplishments. He is certainly the least qualify nominee for President in a long time. Yet we take his superficial style-over-substance campaign charades as serious; its one thing to observe a bomboozling, it is egregious to not acknowledge it as such.</p>
<p>Obama poses for change. So did Carter.<br />
<a href="http://no-bama.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-is-another-jimmy-carter.html" rel="nofollow">http://no-bama.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-is-another-jimmy-carter.html</a></p>
<p>Obama promises middle class tax cut. So did Clinton.  Then again, Obama is openly for multiple tax hikes, including boneheaded windfall profits tax.</p>
<p>Obama preaches against lobbyists &#8211; yet uses 527 loopholes that skirt the law. Obama has gotten hundreds of millions from lawyers and elites in these industries, including oil, power co, hedge funds, pharma, and of course big-time Hollywood exec money. Trial lawyers are big Democrat givers, and their payback was a $1.6 billion tax giveaway in the Democrat energy bill.</p>
<p>And so it goes. He preaches to Dads but pursuing an agenda hostile to Fathers and families on many levels, starting with his very hostility to protecting the rights of the unborn.</p>
<p>A vote for Obama is like a second marriage: the triumph of HOPE over EXPERIENCE.</p>
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		<title>By: huxley</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-hits-neglectful-fathers-and-of-course-mccain/#comment-61538</link>
		<dc:creator>huxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Because, my friend, you have posted many times — far more than you let on here — on New West Notes, and I know exactly where you are coming from.

Bill Bradley -- You&#039;ve got me mixed up with someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Because, my friend, you have posted many times — far more than you let on here — on New West Notes, and I know exactly where you are coming from.</p>
<p>Bill Bradley &#8212; You&#8217;ve got me mixed up with someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: huxley</title>
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		<dc:creator>huxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&quot;Well, and let me put this politely, you are totally wrong.&quot;

Well, that&#039;s sure tellng me off. Considering at least two things I said are verifiably true, we can leave it at this, politely of course:

Bill Bradley is disingenuous and lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&#8221;Well, and let me put this politely, you are totally wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s sure tellng me off. Considering at least two things I said are verifiably true, we can leave it at this, politely of course:</p>
<p>Bill Bradley is disingenuous and lame.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, and let me put this politely, you are totally wrong.

&gt;huxley:

Bill Bradley is quite a disingenuous fellow.

A. Note that he makes no substantive response to my reasonable and cited post above. It’s true that Obama has been leading McCain by six or seven points for a week on Rasmussen, as I said. It’s true that Obama’s lead has shrunk to two points on Gallup, as I said.

B. I posted about five times on NWN in the space of a week two or three weeks ago. In my estimation I gave as good as I got. I stopped because I found the discussions rather breezy, superficial, and sometimes abusive. And because Bradley is, well, a disingenuous fellow who usually dismisses challenges rather than meeting them.

C. Enough time wasted on that … :)
Jun 16, 2008 - 3:11 pm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, and let me put this politely, you are totally wrong.</p>
<p>&gt;huxley:</p>
<p>Bill Bradley is quite a disingenuous fellow.</p>
<p>A. Note that he makes no substantive response to my reasonable and cited post above. It’s true that Obama has been leading McCain by six or seven points for a week on Rasmussen, as I said. It’s true that Obama’s lead has shrunk to two points on Gallup, as I said.</p>
<p>B. I posted about five times on NWN in the space of a week two or three weeks ago. In my estimation I gave as good as I got. I stopped because I found the discussions rather breezy, superficial, and sometimes abusive. And because Bradley is, well, a disingenuous fellow who usually dismisses challenges rather than meeting them.</p>
<p>C. Enough time wasted on that … <img src='http://pjmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Jun 16, 2008 &#8211; 3:11 pm</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because, my friend, you have posted many times  -- far more than you let on here  -- on New West Notes, and I know exactly where you are coming from.

&gt;huxley:

&gt;“Especially among blacks.”

Bill Bradley — Yes, that’s what I said.

It’s pretty close to what you said: “…which he called out absentee fathers, especially in the black community” and to what Obama said: “We know that more than half of all black children live in single-parent households, a number that has doubled — doubled — since we were children.”

So why do you repeat my words back in scare quotes as though those three were particularly significant?
Jun 16, 2008 - 4:49 pm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because, my friend, you have posted many times  &#8212; far more than you let on here  &#8212; on New West Notes, and I know exactly where you are coming from.</p>
<p>&gt;huxley:</p>
<p>&gt;“Especially among blacks.”</p>
<p>Bill Bradley — Yes, that’s what I said.</p>
<p>It’s pretty close to what you said: “…which he called out absentee fathers, especially in the black community” and to what Obama said: “We know that more than half of all black children live in single-parent households, a number that has doubled — doubled — since we were children.”</p>
<p>So why do you repeat my words back in scare quotes as though those three were particularly significant?<br />
Jun 16, 2008 &#8211; 4:49 pm</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I thought Obama was too black re wacko Rev. Wright. Now he&#039;s not black enough  ...

I actually don&#039;t consider Obama as a black guy, as I think him and Mac re serious presidential issues, which we might get to some day or another, maybe.

&gt;Olivia:

Sorry if I was unclear and didn’t end my quote but it was one of Chris Rock’s funnier rants from his second HBO special. I think nestled in his la-di-da of his recycled speech were some weird ideas about how government should take care of people who are doing what they are supposed to do.

And why is he always so damn patronizing when he’s around black people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I thought Obama was too black re wacko Rev. Wright. Now he&#8217;s not black enough  &#8230;</p>
<p>I actually don&#8217;t consider Obama as a black guy, as I think him and Mac re serious presidential issues, which we might get to some day or another, maybe.</p>
<p>&gt;Olivia:</p>
<p>Sorry if I was unclear and didn’t end my quote but it was one of Chris Rock’s funnier rants from his second HBO special. I think nestled in his la-di-da of his recycled speech were some weird ideas about how government should take care of people who are doing what they are supposed to do.</p>
<p>And why is he always so damn patronizing when he’s around black people.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ehh  ...  no.

&gt;Jabba the Tutt:

To me, everyone’s missing the point of Obama’s speech. He’s going after the Hillary vote. He’s going after the embittered liberal women with a “Men are bums” message.

On the weekend, a Minnesote Hillary delegate came out and said she was going to vote for McCain. Then Obama comes out with his “men are bums” message. That’s all what this is about and nothing more.
Jun 17, 2008 - 4:49 am</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ehh  &#8230;  no.</p>
<p>&gt;Jabba the Tutt:</p>
<p>To me, everyone’s missing the point of Obama’s speech. He’s going after the Hillary vote. He’s going after the embittered liberal women with a “Men are bums” message.</p>
<p>On the weekend, a Minnesote Hillary delegate came out and said she was going to vote for McCain. Then Obama comes out with his “men are bums” message. That’s all what this is about and nothing more.<br />
Jun 17, 2008 &#8211; 4:49 am</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh?</p>
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		<title>By: BDevil38</title>
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		<dc:creator>BDevil38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading through &quot;replies&quot; from Bill Bradley, what I see is a copy of the post he is replying to with no substantive reply.

Stallywood:
 
&quot;Obama chooses Fathers day to denigrate Black men. When That same someone chooses to castigate Black Women for their part in Black Society being in the crapper, I will give a Sh**. As a black man, I am tired of taking the blame for the short sightedness and stupidness of the black woman. When they stop choosing thugs, and choose the “white acting” good black man who works to get ahead, we as a race will have come a long way.&quot;

Very well said, Stallywood, but as we learned from the Dem infighting, part of Hillary&#039;s base was the &quot;lesser-educated&quot; blue collar worker, your use of the word &quot;denigrate&quot; might &quot;confuse&quot; some of the &quot;lesser-educated&quot; base because of its &quot;similarity&quot; to the &quot;N&quot; word.  No offense meant.  Just an observation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading through &#8220;replies&#8221; from Bill Bradley, what I see is a copy of the post he is replying to with no substantive reply.</p>
<p>Stallywood:</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama chooses Fathers day to denigrate Black men. When That same someone chooses to castigate Black Women for their part in Black Society being in the crapper, I will give a Sh**. As a black man, I am tired of taking the blame for the short sightedness and stupidness of the black woman. When they stop choosing thugs, and choose the “white acting” good black man who works to get ahead, we as a race will have come a long way.&#8221;</p>
<p>Very well said, Stallywood, but as we learned from the Dem infighting, part of Hillary&#8217;s base was the &#8220;lesser-educated&#8221; blue collar worker, your use of the word &#8220;denigrate&#8221; might &#8220;confuse&#8221; some of the &#8220;lesser-educated&#8221; base because of its &#8220;similarity&#8221; to the &#8220;N&#8221; word.  No offense meant.  Just an observation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jabba the Tutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jabba the Tutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, everyone&#039;s missing the point of Obama&#039;s speech.  He&#039;s going after the Hillary vote.  He&#039;s going after the embittered liberal women with a &quot;Men are bums&quot; message.

On the weekend, a Minnesote Hillary delegate came out and said she was going to vote for McCain.  Then Obama comes out with his &quot;men are bums&quot; message.  That&#039;s all what this is about and nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, everyone&#8217;s missing the point of Obama&#8217;s speech.  He&#8217;s going after the Hillary vote.  He&#8217;s going after the embittered liberal women with a &#8220;Men are bums&#8221; message.</p>
<p>On the weekend, a Minnesote Hillary delegate came out and said she was going to vote for McCain.  Then Obama comes out with his &#8220;men are bums&#8221; message.  That&#8217;s all what this is about and nothing more.</p>
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