Comments on: Obama and Race: Where We Are and How We Got Here http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-and-race-where-we-are-and-how-we-got-here/ Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:35:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Cindy VB http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-and-race-where-we-are-and-how-we-got-here/#comment-191768 Cindy VB Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:12:54 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=44296#comment-191768 the election had nothing to do with race.. it had everything to do with who was the candidate with a better plan.. and who inspires the greater confidence. Unfortunately, this president is coming in at a time of real economic downturn.. not that is a real Bush issue.. economies are so cyclic.. the new president always inherits something they are in the end held accountable for.. I think Obama brings a lot of new thinking to the table.. and that's what we've been missing the election had nothing to do with race.. it had everything to do with who was the candidate with a better plan.. and who inspires the greater confidence.

Unfortunately, this president is coming in at a time of real economic downturn.. not that is a real Bush issue.. economies are so cyclic.. the new president always inherits something they are in the end held accountable for..

I think Obama brings a lot of new thinking to the table.. and that’s what we’ve been missing

]]> By: caleb2510 http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-and-race-where-we-are-and-how-we-got-here/#comment-189971 caleb2510 Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:21:00 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=44296#comment-189971 Obama allows everyone to call him the first "black" and "african-American" president even though he's half white. If being half-white makes a person black, then being half black makes a person white. Underlying the antidiscrimination laws is the presumption that people can't choose their race. But if you are half white and half black, you can choose to be black and take advantage of all the racial preferences and favortism. If Obama had chosen to be white, he would not be president. Obama allows everyone to call him the first “black” and “african-American” president even though he’s half white.

If being half-white makes a person black, then being half black makes a person white. Underlying the antidiscrimination laws is the presumption that people can’t choose their race. But if you are half white and half black, you can choose to be black and take advantage of all the racial preferences and favortism. If Obama had chosen to be white, he would not be president.

]]> By: The Historian http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-and-race-where-we-are-and-how-we-got-here/#comment-189308 The Historian Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:38:34 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=44296#comment-189308 INAUGURATION RENDERS THE RACE CARD MOOT This one was unique in many ways. http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/01/january-20-2009.html INAUGURATION RENDERS THE RACE CARD MOOT
This one was unique in many ways.

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/01/january-20-2009.html

]]> By: H. Coburn http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-and-race-where-we-are-and-how-we-got-here/#comment-189293 H. Coburn Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:51:58 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=44296#comment-189293 Sarah Palin a bimbo? Indeed she was weak on foreign policy, but let's put this in persperctive. We have a new chief executive who is on record as saying there are 57 states in the union and a VP who claims to have watched FDR, on television. What are their excuses? Bad acid or too many hits on the crack pipe? I wonder. One thing for sure we won't get any answers from the new powers that be or the main stream media. Think about the campaign finance. 740 mil, vs. 64, mil. If my dog and I had had the same numbers, we could have probably won the election. I descended from New England Puritans who came here in 1636. My dog, the VP, traces her ancestry to German Immigrants. We're multicultural. Too bad the dog has no birth certificate and is only 21 dog years old. Too young to be 35, the minimum according to the constitution. I look at today's happenings, and cannot but think, why is Dr. MLK not here? And why did my great-great Grandfater rush Little Round Top in '63? Becase they belived in something in which I grew up believing in and do so no more. The American dream. Today's American dream, grab what you can, and screw everyone else. 54 years of believing in my country. What a fool was I. Sarah Palin a bimbo? Indeed she was weak on foreign policy, but let’s put this in persperctive.
We have a new chief executive who is on record as saying there are 57 states in the union and a VP who claims to have watched FDR, on television. What are their excuses? Bad acid or too many hits on the crack pipe? I wonder. One thing for sure we won’t get any answers from the new powers that be or the main stream media.
Think about the campaign finance. 740 mil, vs. 64, mil. If my dog and I had had the same numbers, we could have probably won the election. I descended from New England Puritans who came here in 1636. My dog, the VP, traces her ancestry to German Immigrants. We’re multicultural. Too bad the dog has no birth certificate and is only 21 dog years old. Too young to be 35, the minimum according to the constitution.
I look at today’s happenings, and cannot but think, why is Dr. MLK not here? And why did my great-great Grandfater rush Little Round Top in ’63? Becase they belived in something in which I grew up believing in and do so no more. The American dream. Today’s American dream, grab what you can, and screw everyone else. 54 years of believing in my country. What a fool was I.

]]> By: 2178743 http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-and-race-where-we-are-and-how-we-got-here/#comment-187910 2178743 Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:52:47 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=44296#comment-187910 America's demographics have changed little. Democrats lost the South, but were able to win the swing states. African American voters always support the democratic candidate in droves, which is quite sad if you think about it (seems like there is little independent thinking going on and has produced little for their cause). Why can’t white people be given credit for voting in a black president? White people fight a civil war, threatening to tear the union in two, and then over 150 years later vote in a black president. Still, white people are told they have more work to do. I'm sorry, but I think most of the work at this point needs to be done by African Americans. African Americans need to take a positive role in eliminating the cycle of poverty present in many urban areas, where broken families and crime govern the culture. Without doubt, the systematic racism against the black race began this cycle, but understand, white people are not going to be the ones who are going to break it. African Americans will have to do that on their own. Stop looking to Jessie Jackson and other people to "lead" black rights and start looking out for you [African Americans]. That's how the whites did it. Barack Obama has no magic wand to end the cycle. The people have to take responsibility for their actions. That is how this country became great and the way it has been designed. If you look to the government to solve your problems, then your problems will persist. Government can only remove obstacles, and I believe that has been done in respect to African Americans. America’s demographics have changed little. Democrats lost the South, but were able to win the swing states. African American voters always support the democratic candidate in droves, which is quite sad if you think about it (seems like there is little independent thinking going on and has produced little for their cause). Why can’t white people be given credit for voting in a black president? White people fight a civil war, threatening to tear the union in two, and then over 150 years later vote in a black president. Still, white people are told they have more work to do. I’m sorry, but I think most of the work at this point needs to be done by African Americans. African Americans need to take a positive role in eliminating the cycle of poverty present in many urban areas, where broken families and crime govern the culture. Without doubt, the systematic racism against the black race began this cycle, but understand, white people are not going to be the ones who are going to break it. African Americans will have to do that on their own. Stop looking to Jessie Jackson and other people to “lead” black rights and start looking out for you [African Americans]. That’s how the whites did it. Barack Obama has no magic wand to end the cycle. The people have to take responsibility for their actions. That is how this country became great and the way it has been designed. If you look to the government to solve your problems, then your problems will persist. Government can only remove obstacles, and I believe that has been done in respect to African Americans.

]]> By: David H http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-and-race-where-we-are-and-how-we-got-here/#comment-187819 David H Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:40:28 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=44296#comment-187819 He is the beneficiary of barriers already broken, fact is I find it racist that such a fuss is made that a Black man has made it to the position of the POTUS, does race matter at all, after all Condi Rice and Powell were both black, big deal. In my simple view it does not matter what colour you are, it’s what you think and can do that is important, and the problem is that what Obama may think is deeply worrying, the word ‘may’ is or course deeply worrying in that his background was deliberately obscured, we do not know what he stands for? I personally cannot believe that a man who has so many unknowns and quite frankly many worrying contacts has made POTUS, a man whose church was some sort of Black supremacy church with links to the Nation of Islam, a man who is linked to the Weatherman terrorists leader Bill Ayers, a man who may not be even entitled to be POTUS, but that is another story... However I am supposed to feel secure that Bush is being so supportive and trusting in Obama, a man who looked deep into the eyes of Putin and said that he could trust him and look at where that has got us, thanks President Bush, you make me feel so much better. In France on Sunday 18th January we turn on the news and two days before Obama’s inauguration its already wall to wall cover, about this ‘historic moment’..., my wife and I look at each other in disgust and off goes the news. The morning of the 19th January, cold of course, radio comes on, some Muslim talking about being produced by France, then another load of pap about how wonderful diversity is, followed by a load of simpering Obama love, off goes the radio. My wife heads to work, when she arrives she rings me, all they talked about on teh radio was diversity, we both make a pact not to watch the TV or listen to the radio for the next couple of days. So here we are in Europe, ‘United in diversity’, more like ‘Disunited in diversity!’ In France we even have a President that suggests that the white race should deliberately breed with other races, what next forced marriages to enable this, personally I could not give a damn if people chose to marry a person of another race if that is their choice or if they find each other attractive, but the way this is highlighted smacks of fascism, same as so called positive discrimination, sorry what is positive about choosing someone above a better qualified person based on the colour of their skin or backward belief system, that is negative discrimination... Excuse me LeFascists, Green Fascists and the like, I am not going to sit there celebrating your racist rubbish, “isn’t it great that a black man made POTUS...,” I don’t care, but I do care that a man who is possibly extreme left, a man who went to an openly racist church, a man who says what people want to hear, and lastly a man who mixes up something as important as his religion on TV is POTUS. Hope and change, I prefer openly discussed and debated plans for developing the situation rather than putting my hope in someone like Obama, of course I may be proved wrong, but in 1997 the Labour party were elected on the basis of hope and change, that is hope and change that we can believe in... He is the beneficiary of barriers already broken, fact is I find it racist that such a fuss is made that a Black man has made it to the position of the POTUS, does race matter at all, after all Condi Rice and Powell were both black, big deal.

In my simple view it does not matter what colour you are, it’s what you think and can do that is important, and the problem is that what Obama may think is deeply worrying, the word ‘may’ is or course deeply worrying in that his background was deliberately obscured, we do not know what he stands for?

I personally cannot believe that a man who has so many unknowns and quite frankly many worrying contacts has made POTUS, a man whose church was some sort of Black supremacy church with links to the Nation of Islam, a man who is linked to the Weatherman terrorists leader Bill Ayers, a man who may not be even entitled to be POTUS, but that is another story…

However I am supposed to feel secure that Bush is being so supportive and trusting in Obama, a man who looked deep into the eyes of Putin and said that he could trust him and look at where that has got us, thanks President Bush, you make me feel so much better.

In France on Sunday 18th January we turn on the news and two days before Obama’s inauguration its already wall to wall cover, about this ‘historic moment’…, my wife and I look at each other in disgust and off goes the news.

The morning of the 19th January, cold of course, radio comes on, some Muslim talking about being produced by France, then another load of pap about how wonderful diversity is, followed by a load of simpering Obama love, off goes the radio. My wife heads to work, when she arrives she rings me, all they talked about on teh radio was diversity, we both make a pact not to watch the TV or listen to the radio for the next couple of days.

So here we are in Europe, ‘United in diversity’, more like ‘Disunited in diversity!’

In France we even have a President that suggests that the white race should deliberately breed with other races, what next forced marriages to enable this, personally I could not give a damn if people chose to marry a person of another race if that is their choice or if they find each other attractive, but the way this is highlighted smacks of fascism, same as so called positive discrimination, sorry what is positive about choosing someone above a better qualified person based on the colour of their skin or backward belief system, that is negative discrimination…

Excuse me LeFascists, Green Fascists and the like, I am not going to sit there celebrating your racist rubbish, “isn’t it great that a black man made POTUS…,” I don’t care, but I do care that a man who is possibly extreme left, a man who went to an openly racist church, a man who says what people want to hear, and lastly a man who mixes up something as important as his religion on TV is POTUS.

Hope and change, I prefer openly discussed and debated plans for developing the situation rather than putting my hope in someone like Obama, of course I may be proved wrong, but in 1997 the Labour party were elected on the basis of hope and change, that is hope and change that we can believe in…

]]> By: Liberty http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-and-race-where-we-are-and-how-we-got-here/#comment-187798 Liberty Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:15:38 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=44296#comment-187798 It's forgotten that Eisenhower opened doors for minorities: Before 1953, the rare blacks who worked in government service generally held either foreign policy assignments in African countries or a few specified posts in domestic affairs that dealt with "Negro matters." Eisenhower continued such appointments by naming African Americans as ambassador to Liberia and as an alternate delegate to the United Nations. At home, he named an African American as an assistant in the Housing and Home Finance Administration. However, Eisenhower also appointed blacks to positions that in no way concerned racial matters and that previously had been held only by whites. J. Ernest Wilkins, a lawyer from Chicago, for example, was appointed assistant secretary of labor. In that capacity, he made history when, on August 18, 1954, he became the first African American to represent his department at a Cabinet meeting. Another high post in the Labor Department, the assistant to the secretary, went to Samuel R. Pierce Jr. Eisenhower also appointed Samuel Richardson to be chief of the Parole Board, a position Richardson held until the president elevated him to the federal bench. Archibald Carey became chairman of the President's Employment Policy Committee and also served as an alternate delegate to the United Nations. Louis B. Toomer took over as registrar of the Treasury, and Cora M. Brown joined the Post Office Department as associate general counsel. Eisenhower even brought his considerable powers of presidential persuasion to bear to convince his irascible and racially unenlightened secretary of agriculture, Ezra Taft Benson, that at least one African American should be given a position of responsibility in the Department of Agriculture. One measure of an expanded black presence--and of the intense restrictions of the past--is that, in january 1953, Lois Lippman of Boston became the first African-American secretary to join the White House staff. ... But it was the selection of E. Frederic Morrow as the first African American to hold an executive position in the White House that best underscores both the administration's genuine efforts to open federal employment to blacks and the ambiguous attitude of the president and the administration toward African Americans. Ike in office American Visions, Feb-March, 1995 http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1546/is_n1_v10/ai_16769674 It’s forgotten that Eisenhower opened doors for minorities:

Before 1953, the rare blacks who worked in government service generally held either foreign policy assignments in African countries or a few specified posts in domestic affairs that dealt with “Negro matters.” Eisenhower continued such appointments by naming African Americans as ambassador to Liberia and as an alternate delegate to the United Nations. At home, he named an African American as an assistant in the Housing and Home Finance Administration.

However, Eisenhower also appointed blacks to positions that in no way concerned racial matters and that previously had been held only by whites. J. Ernest Wilkins, a lawyer from Chicago, for example, was appointed assistant secretary of labor. In that capacity, he made history when, on August 18, 1954, he became the first African American to represent his department at a Cabinet meeting. Another high post in the Labor Department, the assistant to the secretary, went to Samuel R. Pierce Jr. Eisenhower also appointed Samuel Richardson to be chief of the Parole Board, a position Richardson held until the president elevated him to the federal bench. Archibald Carey became chairman of the President’s Employment Policy Committee and also served as an alternate delegate to the United Nations. Louis B. Toomer took over as registrar of the Treasury, and Cora M. Brown joined the Post Office Department as associate general counsel. Eisenhower even brought his considerable powers of presidential persuasion to bear to convince his irascible and racially unenlightened secretary of agriculture, Ezra Taft Benson, that at least one African American should be given a position of responsibility in the Department of Agriculture.

One measure of an expanded black presence–and of the intense restrictions of the past–is that, in january 1953, Lois Lippman of Boston became the first African-American secretary to join the White House staff.
…
But it was the selection of E. Frederic Morrow as the first African American to hold an executive position in the White House that best underscores both the administration’s genuine efforts to open federal employment to blacks and the ambiguous attitude of the president and the administration toward African Americans.

Ike in office
American Visions, Feb-March, 1995

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1546/is_n1_v10/ai_16769674

]]> By: baldilocks http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-and-race-where-we-are-and-how-we-got-here/#comment-187003 baldilocks Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:44:49 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=44296#comment-187003 "Is the president-elect more a breaker of barriers or the beneficiary of barriers already broken?" He is more the latter, but, ultimately, he will be the rebuilder of said barriers. Or new ones. “Is the president-elect more a breaker of barriers or the beneficiary of barriers already broken?”

He is more the latter, but, ultimately, he will be the rebuilder of said barriers. Or new ones.

]]> By: Roberta http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-and-race-where-we-are-and-how-we-got-here/#comment-186952 Roberta Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:13:16 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=44296#comment-186952 Instead of Obama providing a legitimate copy of his birth certificate he retained an attny: Joseph Sandler of the Washington law firm Sandler, Reif, & Young. Who is Sandler? He is a lawyer who has represented CAIR - the Council on American Islamic Relations and MoveOn.org. CAIR is a terrorist supporting front organization that is partially funded by terrorists, founded by terrorists, and wishes nothing more than the implementation of Sharia Law. Ingrid Mattson is the first woman pres of the Islamic Society of North America which has ties to CAIR ... she was chosen to offer a prayer at the Nat'l Cathedral on Inauguration Day - Jan 20th ... how sweet it is, they won't have to look far for terrorists. Keep your eyes up front, center stage ... Who the hell is Barak Hussein Obama? Instead of Obama providing a legitimate copy of his birth certificate he retained an attny: Joseph Sandler of the Washington law firm Sandler, Reif, & Young. Who is Sandler? He is a lawyer who has represented CAIR – the Council on American Islamic Relations and MoveOn.org. CAIR is a terrorist supporting front organization that is partially funded by terrorists, founded by terrorists, and wishes nothing more than the implementation of Sharia Law.

Ingrid Mattson is the first woman pres of the Islamic Society of North America which has ties to CAIR … she was chosen to offer a prayer at the Nat’l Cathedral on Inauguration Day – Jan 20th … how sweet it is, they won’t have to look far for terrorists. Keep your eyes up front, center stage … Who the hell is Barak Hussein Obama?

]]> By: Gilligan http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-and-race-where-we-are-and-how-we-got-here/#comment-186825 Gilligan Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:30:32 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=44296#comment-186825 Although I did not vote for him, I really do hope that Obama is a successful President despite his near total lack of experience and extremely troubling associations. While we will have to see how things actually work out, the early indications seem to be that Barak Obama is an extremely ambitious man who made use of the people around him and spent almost all of his political career voting "present" and running for the next position up the greasy pole. Now that he is at the top, he will have to throw his most devoted left wing supporters over the side in order to have a successful term as President. Whenever I hear one of our President-Elect's content-free speeches I am powerfully reminded of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHzM8XhNZ64 Although I did not vote for him, I really do hope that Obama is a successful President despite his near total lack of experience and extremely troubling associations.

While we will have to see how things actually work out, the early indications seem to be that Barak Obama is an extremely ambitious man who made use of the people around him and spent almost all of his political career voting “present” and running for the next position up the greasy pole. Now that he is at the top, he will have to throw his most devoted left wing supporters over the side in order to have a successful term as President.

Whenever I hear one of our President-Elect’s content-free speeches I am powerfully reminded of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHzM8XhNZ64

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