Obama Admin Lobbying Honduras To Allow Zelaya Back In? Are You Kidding?
Although the Obama State Department would like to portray their efforts to return Zelaya to Honduras as an attempt to bring closure and help heal that nation from the wounds it suffered 18 months ago, the reality is the opposite. Zelaya’s return would instead stoke the fires of factionalism and most likely bring more violence to a country that is still struggling to recover from the turmoil it suffered in 2009.
One of the groups leading the charge in Honduras to return and reinstate Zelaya as president is the National Front of Popular Resistance (FNRP). This leftist organization has produced a poster calling for Zelaya’s reinstatement that rivals the pomposity of their deposed leader. It features an artistic silhouette of Zelaya wearing his trademark cowboy hat, and it perfectly captures the leftist use of art to portray tyrants as heroes. The FNRP does not try to hide its Marxist dogma — on its website, it proudly declares that it is:
… carrying out a political and social struggle against a savage capitalism that is transnational, monopolistic, and alienating. This struggle is anti-neoliberal, anti-oligarchic, anti-imperialist, anti-patriarchal, and anti-racism, which seeks the transformation of social, political, economic, and educational structures and cultural domination .…
These are the allies of Zelaya in Honduras; leftists who seek the destruction of democracy and the free market in Honduras in order to install a system of “social justice,” which is newspeak for tyranny and enslavement. A return of Zelaya to Honduras would embolden and inspire the FNRP and other leftist groups, ensuring violence and bringing about another attempt to align with countries such as Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, and Nicaragua, which are all well on their way to a Cuban-style communist dictatorship.
In a country that is still struggling to maintain law and order, where Catholic bishops receive death threats for publicly defending the rule of law and judges recuse themselves from trying the case against Zelaya, the situation is nothing if not volatile. The Obama administration’s insistence on introducing a pretentious despot with a propensity to incite violence into this unpredictable environment goes beyond incompetence and lack of experience; it is blatant recklessness.
One can only surmise what motivation is behind the Obama administration’s decision to continue meddling in Honduran domestic affairs. Whatever the reasons may be, the Obama administration needs to explain itself. If the White House continues pursuing this course, it needs to explain to the American and Honduran people, as well as the rest of the world, why it has decided to put the Honduran people and their democracy in harm’s way.
The Obama administration, stupidity upon stupidity.
I hope you’re right.
I hope nobody is acting stupid to disguise their evil.
I think it is more about greed. Obama will need a place to land after 2012. He needs to garner favors and place to hide the stolen $.
my thoughts are that obama trying to curry favor for a “king of the world’ type office when he leaves the presidency here. He can go on and impress the rest of the world with his useless words.
More like birds of a feather…
Watch this humorous and insightful video of renowned artist Marc Rubin destroying his presidential portrait of Obama in 2009. He speaks about Zelaya.
http://www.marcrubin.com/obama.ivnu
Haha. Thanks for the link.
We can only hope that the Honduran government stands firm and tells the Obama regime to go pound sand.
They will. Hondurans are not that stupid. But the Obama has ensured that the US will forever be despised by all of Hondurans. It’s a typical foot in the mouth moment by the US. The kind that creates eternal hatred from former allies.
OK, let’s surmise what the motive could be. How about this? The political agenda of the President of the Untited States is tactically pragmatic and strategically far-leftist. His political appointees are, in large measure, ideologically compatible. Accordingly, nothwithstanding the patina of pro-American protective coloration deployed by the administration to deceive the gullible, they seek the destruction of America and the West and pursue that wherever and whenever they can.
The policy is only stupid if, as we have always assumed and are loathe to conclude otherwise, the people engaging in it want our country and civilization to survive. That we now have a president who wants the opposite is what gives this historical moment the illogic of a dream, the horror of a nightmare.
Bingo.
Any analysis that minimizes their treachery by calling it stupidity, lack of experience, incompetence, etc., is aiding and abetting the enemy.
One can only wish that our future first female president make a visist to Lobo Diaz and encourage this nation’s democracy. Sarah go there please!
Another in the two-year long string of diplomatic gaffes and missteps under Ms. Clinton’s leadership. Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal, I don’t know how anyone can be impressed with her constant fumbling.
Maybe we need a poke of the old “reset” button, Champ.
Why is the Obama administration supporting Zelaya? Oh come on. You know the answer already.
Obama supports dictators who piss all over their countries’ constitutions because its what he is doing. Socialists like Obama only pay lip service to the rule of law; once their in charge all bets are off.
Yup. They can’t help it. Their heroes are Che, Castro, Mao etc. They feel deep in their hearts solidarity with communist revolutionaries like Zelaya and Chavez. Though as President and Head of state they won’t admit it publicly.
This is a perfect candidate for a congressional investigation.
Our policy in honduras is so utterly lacking in merit that it astonishes me. There’s no idealist or realist case to be made whatsoever for what we’re doing there.
At least our mis-steps in Russia, eastern europe, Britain, and Israel have at least a bad rationale behind them. NO ONE has managed to mount a defense of what we’re doing in Honduras.
I’ve been asking around for more than a year now: everyone I know who has any knowledge at all of US foreign policy– including a lefty friend who is a 60′s era communist who did his dissertation on Capitalist Imperialism in latin america. Even he can’t give any reasons at all (even bad ones).
Is this just a case of chronic, persistent stupidity? Could someone in the administration please at least explain why they think they should be doing this?
This may be a bone that Obama is throwing to pacify the Left which is angry at his compromises. I don’t like it, but it’s better that he should promote communism in the Honduras than here in America.
Not surprising at all, although cunning.
for those who question whether obama is a marxist here is more proof that he is a marxist.
Obama continues to proclaim “Amateur Hour” at the White House in Foreign Policy. It is impossible to see what possible US interest their could be in trying to Zelaya back into Honduras. Hopefully, Zelaya would never be in a position to offer the US any support, while putting pressure on Honduras to readmit Zelaya would not endear us to them. So where do these amateurs see an upside?
Well let’s see, “these amateurs” are communists, Zelaya is a communist. Hmmmm?
Not amateur, communist. Just because it is unthinkable that the American president is actually a communist, doesn’t mean he isn’t one.
No one knows what Obama hides in he’s heart. But all evidence points to that he’s a convinced Marxist. And when seen in that light all of his policies are completely logical.
I love Ros-Lehtinen, but she screwed up her letter big time.
“…ask, within all applicable rules and guidelines, that … the State Department immediately cease exerting such undue influence …”
WHADAYA MEAN? “applicable rules and guidelines”
WHADAYA MEAN? “undue influence”
All State has to do is say (1) we are following the rules, and (2) we don’t do undue influence.
JUST TELL’EM YOU WANT THEM TO STOP! dammit. Stop the wannabe RINO Country Clubber talk and talk turkey to the collectivist bolshis destroying our country!
Obama is and always will be nothing more than a feeble minded pawn in the weakening of the West and our values. Is there another person in Western politics today that is as dangerous as this street corner hustler? I think not.
Rise up America, Rise, before it’s too late. Put this evil socialist bastard and his comrades in their political graves.
I so hope using the word graves doesn’t offend someone as I would be upset for days and probably wouldn’t sleep at nights.
Perhaps Honduras should lecture Obama on how they shouldn’t have prosecuted Tom DeLay.
In case the main stream media hasn’t notice, Obama and Hillary are far left radicals and always have been. Lets cozy up to Chavez and other latin Ameican leftists and subvert democracies accordingly. Lets face it democracy is over rated and it is much better to have elites just dictate what people should have and so on. See a pattern here in the USA yet? Who cares what the Ameircan people want anyway?
In addition the state department is full of leftists at all levels and subvert our policies according to their invidivual views. We cannot get rid of this administration quickly enough and undoing the damage they are doing all over the world on almost every level will be a huge job.
Tommy Gunn
The explanation for Obama’s motive is likely the obvious (disappointingly) – it is consistent with his political philosophy.
Not to worry, they’ll never get away with it. I’m sure our mainstream media will start asking the hard questions and run with this any day now. Any day now…
LOL!!!
Good one
The Obama administration is more at home with nations run by dictators then in nations run by the citizens. Their goal is to destroy the Constitution and turn this country into a dictatorship. With luck our country and Honduras will tell him and Hillary to pound sand.
Forget about this freak. Exactly what fund is billions of dollars coming from that we are giving out all over the world? Couldn’t we have this money applied to our own infrastructure or thought of thoughts – have our Fed taxes reduced by the exact amount spent at the U.N., Israel, Egypt, bribing the Maldives on global warming, or funding Kenyan elections which is just a drop in the bucket compared to what else, Nepal, Guatemala?
No wonder people cheat on their taxes. Why the hell should I have to pay for a sewer system in Belize? The Feds are operating a deficit for this? Unbelievable. Gee whiz, couldn’t we exert a measure of tough love and let Kenyans finance their own elections? 215 million dollars to Honduras? Really?
I suspect there is some leftie idealog in charge of the Honduras desk at state. Somebody who actually likes Chavez, and was dissapointed when his marxist ally in Honduras was ousted. So we are now actively favoring a corrupt Marxist dictator, against a freely elected, free market supporting, government.
I am not certain yet that Obama actually endorses this idiotic and destructive Honduras policy, but if he does not clean house soon, and purge the leftie idiots promoting this policy, he will not be able to claim ignorance for long.
Wikileaks, we need you!
This fits the same pattern of helping leftist dictators. This week Obama threw Castro a life-line, because the dictatorship was running out of money. In the long run, these actions only reinforce Latin Americans’ view that the U.S. is the enemy, as Enrique Krauze’s book and articles expose.
I really can’t believe this. It seems only a few months ago we were decrying State’s treatment of Honduras over this same felon, Zelaya. What the hell is going on at State? Let’s keep this firmly in mind in the improbable but possible event that Hillary wins out over Obama The Unpopular for the Dem nomination for the 2012 Presidency.
One can almost admire this Obama administration loyalty to its political kin.
Perhaps Honduras should lecture Obama on how he prosecuted Rangel, Geitner, cold-cash Jefferson, Waters, the new black panthers, et al. Or maybe not.
Thank you for this update. I appreciated getting this information. The Honduran government has walked tall and proud under tremendous outside pressures. It has been clear from the start that the US State Department and the White House are on the wrong side.
Honduras should invite Zelaya back for trial, and kick the present American
ambassador out of the country. I for one apologize for the blindness of
the current Dept. of State, and the idiocy of my president. VIVA HONDURAS!
I seem to remember an otherwise wise international relations professor (a Russian-ist, and very sound on Russia) telling me that the election of Obama would mark a return of “adults.”
Democrats, it is things like this that make real adults despise you. Clean your house.
Every time I try to dismiss notions that Obama & Co. are conspiring to undermine America, those WH clowns pull a stunt like this.
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL).
Why doesn’t anyone nominate this woman for VP or Secty of State?? — she has been a consistent voice for people who despise communism and an out front tell-it-like-it-is non nonsense supporter of Israel
gravitas, experince, longer record- would love to see her on the ballot
oops not sure she was born here
but most certainly a loyal AMERICAn patriot
“The Obama White House seemed oblivious to the Honduran constitution”
To be fair, that’s not the only constitution they are oblivious to. Birds of a feather.
I could make this list MUCH longer, but not everyone is as fascinated with history as I am. So I’ll just take a slice out of the middle to demonstrate how busy we are in Geopolitical politics…and to say that we VERY often back the wrong guys. I left a few of the more well known facts out. This list, even this part of the list, is not comprehensive.
I’m just hoping some will find it interesting.
1953 The US and UK worked to overthrow the democratically elected leader of Iran(replacing him with the a tyrant)
1954 The US participated in an overthrow of the democratically elected leader of Guatemala
1960 The US and Belgium work to overthrow the democratically elected leader of the Congo
1963 The US worked to overthrow the leader of Iraq, making way for the rule of the Ba’ath Party
1964 The US successfully backed a coup to overthrow the democratically elected leader of Brazil
1966 The US backed a successful coup to overthrow the leader of Ghana
1968 The US successfully back a coup bringing the Ba’ath party back to power, ushering in the rule of Saddam Hussein
1973 The US was involved in the assassination of the head of the military in Chile by providing weapons to his assailants
1974 The US began providing assistance to radical Islamist rebels in Afghanistan
1975 The US colludes with the Shah of Iran to arm Kurdish rebells in overthrowing the government of Iraq. Iraq and Iran signed a treaty later that year, and the support ceased. Many Kurds were slaughtered, and the Shaw denied refuge to the Kurds in Iran.
1976 The US aids in a coup to overthrow the democratically elected leader of Argentina.
1978 – The US provide Islamist rebels in Afghanistan with $2-$20 billion in aid.
1980 The US provides billions in aid to the leadership of Iraq to aid them in their war against Iran.
Whew…
You list a lot of debatable events, yet you don’t list the most horrendous sponsorship of evil that America ever enacted, which was engineered by Carter, which put Islamic radicals in charge of Iran. 40 years later we are still struggling to contain this cancer on earth that is more potent than German nazism, because their religion backs the freaking evil.
Second to that is Clinton giving Kosovo and Albania our protection, enabling the conduit of slavery, human trafficking and heroin into Europe. And third is Sandy Berger leaving a laptop in a Chinese hotel with telemetry formulas in them.
Seems to me that Democrats historically promote an earth desecrated by Sharia law, mafia and military treason on behalf of of enemies and promotion of fascism.
DrBukk
You’re right, and left a few others out that I consider important as well. I just didn’t feel like I should list everything…
I assure you the incidents you mention weren’t skipped for reasons of bias.
I agree with your feelings…Given my interest in history and time in in intelligence, more than I will go into here.
“After their amateurish and myopic miscalculation, which exposed the Obama State Department’s lack of experience and incompetence, ”
It’s not incompetence. It’s not lack of experience. It’s not stupidity. And it’s not greed, either.
It’s the Marxism, stupid!
It is sooo plain to see. The reason Obama wants Zelaya back in is to form a society of dictators all up through South America, through Argentina,Mexico with dictatorship being the only thing you could call that Gov,and then….Obama.He wants to rein for twenty years and have his flocks that adore him everywhere.He does not care about the constitution of any country(thats what got Zelaya kicked out),especially America.It would just surround him with friends or dogs of the same colour.
Let no one forget…the entire cabal of Sorosian groups have promised global riots starting March 2nd as a part of their crusade to bring about a socialist revolution.
Having the Obamians force Honduras to allow a viscous wannabe-dictator like Zelaya in place along with infiltrated Bolivarian commando unit’s and paramilitaries from Chavez, Castro, Correa, Ortega, and the rest of the League of Atzalan would be an optimal situation for putting a Marxist flame to the rest of central America as a part of their real final goal: putting a Marxist flag on the US border.
Imagine them getting a Marxist solidarity of all of the countries south of Mexico. Couple that with the insane drug war going on there (any thoughts about who outside might be instigating this?). If the League of Atzalan takes the south how long do you think it will be until they take Mexico?
We have a Marxist-sympathizer in the White House to keep the borders open and any resistance by us gringos suppressed by a combination of media misdirection and police suppression. Add latin nationalist gangs allied with Islamists and Panthers causing terrorism over the country.
Throw in outside economic chaos from the Communist Chinese, Russia, maybe an Iranian-induced oil crisis.
In the middle all of the trouble Obama could very quickly do a coup (NOT LETTING A CRISIS GO TO WASTE) and we could find ourselves waking up in a Marxist dictatorship with the streets manned by people who see every American – especially certain racial groups – as targets to be eliminated / revenged against.
Guess what the dropped security on messican trucks and drivers in the US is all about.
We have a president who doesn’t seem to have
time for anything because he is playing golf
or going on vacation. YET HE HAS TIME TO STICK
HIS NOSE IN OTHER COUNTRIES BUSINESS…?
OBAMA – you are well paid and getting remarkable
perks while in that Whitehouse. NOW START
EARNING THEM BY SOLVING THE PROBLEMS YOU HAVE
CREATED IN THESE UNITED STATES.
With obamacare and legislated pharmaceutical products planned consumption at risk Honduras presents more opportunity for expansion of Monsanto’s world wide monopoly of pest resistant GMO food seed and carcinogen weed killer that has yet to be exposed on MSM. When Bill Gates and Warren Buffet invest $22 billion in population control they must require some “friends” in the operation. Just what would you guess to be the theme of the $215 million farm technology aid program? No problemo. Monsanto will gladly pick up the tab. Catastrophic events anywhere are only seen as opportunities for further expansion of a greed based agenda. They are all both financial and power gain driven.
Zelaya is only a fellow traveler in another scheme.paid by debt added to that of the next generation of Americans or a philanthropic supremacist like the Petrobra’ deep water “investment”.
this election was observed by those of us watching things develop nightly, via the web. the people of Honduras were on the web sites every night pleading with americans to come to their aid. what i saw and was able to glean follows:
the poeple of Honduras, via their courts and legislatures, saw zelaya trying to sidestep their Constitution (modeled on the u.s. Constitution, mostly) and illegally run for an extra term. they acted by immediatley activating the Army to overpower his personal guards and ousted him from their country, as per instructed by their Constitution.
side bar-their gov. is different from ours in that they luckily have term limits. it was later rumored that the election machines were found to had been rigged.
almost immediately obummer started applying pressure to allow zelaya back on the ballot. he somehow got back into the country and planted himself in the chavez embassy. obummer and company (remember how popular he was back then?) got the whole world, with the exception of one or two small countries, to not recognize Honduras, thereby applying even more pressure. the brave people of Honduras were under the gun (literally) while awaiting their pending election the following month. the tension could have been cut with a knife.
what happened next is fuzzy, as the truth can become. it is said that they finally agreed that if obummer would let up on the pressure, they would let zelaya leave the embassy and get back into the game. what they didn’t agree to was a date. so after the free election, and the new president seated, they let him go. it is said that obummer was livid.
the only reason i can imagine for our african jackass to want to try to reinject this corrupt marxist back into Honduras is to either
1. try to get even because he was made to look stupid, or
2. try to start a war there so chavez can invade and ‘save’ the Honduran people, thereby giving marxism/communism/socialism an even stronger foothold in the Americas.
btw – it was also said that the u.s. (cia) seized the corrupt voting mechanisms that were in place. so, guess who is rumored to have that technology now?
This is a good summary, but people need to know that Zelaya tried to hold an illegal vote to let him change the Honduran constitution and run for another term. This after gutting the treasury and having Chavez print the ballots. Jim DeMint went down there after a battle to be funded, and said the only person he met in the country who supported Zelaya was the American ambassador.
The legislature voted and supreme court had signed off and ordered the military to evict Zelaya. He was legally replaced by the next in command, and a fair election was held within months. This was the first blatant foreign policy decision which enameled Obama as a true communist.
Issa needs to implement an oversight investigation of the entire Honduras affair and our government’s role in the reinsertion of Zelaya into the country after his ouster together with the connivance of the Brazilians.
Why would Obama be kidding? He know what he admires and who his friends are.
Too few people use Obama’s efforts to destroy democracy in Honduras as proof that this man is a Communist. Add this to his arch leftist appointments, his efforts to undermine personal freedom by forcing people to buy something they do not want in Obamacare, the unethical means he used to get passed, the indifference to the will of the people, his preference for tyrants and disdain for democratic activists in Iran and the Arab world, his stated desire for an army of the interior that he mentioned during his campaign (which no one questioned about though it seemed odd) and round it out with an over-sized ego that is irreconcilable with democratic attitudes then what other conclusion is possible.
Why would the Obama administration be concerned about the Honduran Constitution, when they aren’t concerned about the U.S. Constitution?
The scariest, most gut-wrenching movie I have ever seen is “Red Dawn,” in which the US is invaded and defeated by a coalition of forces much like the ones described here. Obama is the stereotypical charismatic leader who seduces a free people into voting for totalitarian slavery. What a great start he has made in “softening up” this country. A few more years of economic decline and statist re-education and we should be ready for the kill.
I am not a leftist, I am not a rightist. I am not for or against Obama because I am a Honduran who tries to stay out of other country’s political affairs. I think we need alot of changes to make Honduras a better country, but I know for sure that Zelaya wasn’t the answer. He had 7 months to go and we just hoped it would end soon, until he decided he wanted to stay. That’s when the trouble began.
About 10 days before Zelaya’s ouster, the Honduran High Military Command went to see Mr. Hugo Llorens, US Ambassador to Honduras. (This came out in a wikileak that was released by the French newspaper “Le Monde”) They told him they had a moral dilemma: (a) to follow a rogue leader giving them illegal orders or (b) to support the rule of law in Honduras. (Llorens reports this) Llorens told them to hang on, he would talk to everyone. He says “They will not act without our approval.”
In effect, Llorens was talking to everyone to follow (a) the rogue leader. Fortunately for the Honduran people who would have had to support 30 years of Zelayan dictatorship, they didn’t heed his advice.
What is truly incredible is that the US Ambassador was supporting Zelaya while in the same letter he talks about Zelaya as ineffective, that he has done nothing to help the poor, health, education, crime, drug trafficking, etc.
To me, the US effort to return Zelaya is nothing more than CYA after they joined the OAS in the Honduran bashing party two days after Zelaya’s ouster.
We demand that the OAS release the reports that the OAS Emissary to Honduras sent at least 15 days before Zelaya’s ouster, wrote describing the situation. In it he must clearly specify that Zelaya’s actions were illegal. We demand to see the objectives of the OAS “Accompaniment Mission” that was being sent the day AFTER Zelaya held his illegal referendum. Did they pretend to support Zelaya, knowing his actions were illegal?
I know that Representatives Ileana Ros-Lehtinem and Jim DeMint will help the Honduran people so that pressure is taken away from our government to let Zelaya in without facing the trials for his corrupt acts. We have videotapes of them taking out cartloads of money from the Central Bank and many of those bills (the numbers were recorded) have been recovered in very important places.
In order to stop corruption in our country, we need to get this guy in jail. The struggle isn’t about Zelaya returning. He can come back whenever he pleases. The struggle is so that he faces the trials for all the corruption he is responsible for. Our true struggle is against an irresponsible political class who doesn’t want to put one of their own in jail and are using foreign aid and foreign pressures as an excuse to drop the cases against him.
Where is the Wikileaks reports on this? Obama and the state dept. equal , the dumb leading the dumb.