No, Abbas Did Not Condemn the Hamas Attacks
For the record: Abbas, unlike Netanyahu and Obama, did not condemn Tuesday night’s attack. He mildly criticized it as inexpedient, generalized it in a way that negates its actual nature, and exploited it to tar Israel and Israelis for something they are not guilty of.
On Wednesday night, the car of another Israeli couple, Rabbi Moshe and Shira Romeno, was hit by terrorist bullets north of Jerusalem. Both of them were injured and evacuated to a Jerusalem hospital.
Speaking at the White House Wednesday, Abbas apparently referred to both attacks in saying:
What happened yesterday and what is happening today is also condemned. We do not want at all that any blood be shed, one drop of blood … from the Israelis or the Palestinians. We want people in the two countries to lead a normal life. We want them to live as neighbors and partners forever. Let us sign an agreement, a final agreement, for peace, and put an end to a very long period of struggle forever.
Again, some of the tonalities may seem pleasant, but an actual condemnation of the two specific, vicious attacks in the kind of strong, direct language that Netanyahu and Obama used is absent.
From the vague “what happened yesterday and what is happening today,” Abbas passes quickly to another Israeli-Palestinian equivalency — again misleadingly evoking generalized, mutual violence when what is at hand is the continuing phenomenon of Palestinian terror against Israelis.
However, culpable as Abbas’s failure to condemn the two attacks is, doing so would also have been blameworthy — on grounds of hypocrisy.
As heavily documented by Palestinian Media Watch and others, under Abbas’s presidency the Palestinian Authority has been little less than a breeding ground for terrorism. The most egregious terrorists have public squares named after them and are glorified — here and here, for instance — by Abbas himself.
At the same White House ceremony Wednesday evening, Netanyahu said: “President Abbas, you are my partner in peace.” Netanyahu is in a delicate position, having to balance relations with Obama against other key Israeli interests. Those less constrained are free to ask why Abbas, if he can’t bring himself to genuinely condemn even the most bloodcurdling acts of terror, is treated as part of a peace equation at all.
In a nutshell this latest charade by the Palestinian leader is the perfect example why the whole peace process has always and will continue to fail.
The Palestinians are not negotiating in good faith towards a fair and agreed upon settlement with the Israelis. The Palestinians are now, always have been, and probably will continue to use these talks as another front in their war to destroy Israel.
Abbas’s “condemnation” was not meant to condemn Hamas for the unprovoked, cold blooded murder of innocent Israeli civilians. For Abbas the murders were wrong because they harm the Palestinian cause by reminding people of the savagery, bloodthirstyness, and untrustworthiness of the Palestinians. That is, it makes it difficult for Abbas to conceal from the international community the real goals of the Palestinians and the peace talks, the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jewish People.
Isn’t it strange that when Palestinians kill Israelis in cold blood you barely hear anything about in the mainstream media. But if some Israelis did the same thing to several Palestinians, you would have resolutions at the United Nations condemning the act, you would have non-stop coverage on arab or Muslim television stations screaming about the act, and you would have Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah threatening a new war or intifada. And yet, all you get is a mild “protest” from the White House and nothing from Hillary Clinton about the brutal murders of some Jews. Strange how that works these days. Seems like the lives of Jews doesn’t mean much when compared to Obama’s and Clinton’s “peace” process, a “process” that never obtains any peace and only guarantees more Israeli deaths.
Well, Mahmoud Abbas did bankroll the 1972 Munich Massacre. A lot of people don’t know that.
And you expect anything better from this horse’s arse?
Terrorists of the same feather flock together.
these damned palestinians. they costantly refuse to say and do what the israelis want them to say and do. shame!
It’s pretty simple, anytime, in any case the followers of Mohammad will adhere to the simple question WWMD? What would Mohammad do? Lie, cheat, murder, rape, plunder, pillage and be a pedophile.
Well done, David, with one note and one link…
When Abbas refers to “Israeli civilians”, he is only using language acceptable to the English-speaking West. His actual belief (and that of all in FATAH, the PLO, HAMAS, etc.) is that since Israelis are required to serve in our military, not only for the initial 2 years for girls and 3 years for boys, but continuing in the reservist units, then NO Israeli is actually a citizen. Thus, in the minds and hearts of Abbas, Fayad, Erakat, etc. etc. etc., ALL Israelis are soldiers (even babies, who will grow up to be soldiers) and thus legitimate targets of the “armed struggle”.
Second – for your readers to better understand the context of all this, I suggest a link to David Bedein’s website “Israel Behind the News” – http://www.israelbehindthenews.com/ – click on “Special Reports” and then click on any/all of files called “The Incitement Report” which are all well-researched and posted regularly.
suzanne
You’re exactly right, Suzanne (no. 8), including about the fact that Bedein’s site is an excellent source of information not available in the MSM, much recommended.
When the big “O” is finally gone, it will be very interesting to hear from BiBi what really went down.
sdraio – You seem a little skeptical of the comment in the forum. Care to tell us why?
sorry, I am not sure I understand your question correctly (not an English mothertongue). You mean that I seem to be a costantly skeptical voice here in the forum? your impression is correct. I follow this and other right-wing websites in an effort to understand America’s conservatives feelings, policies, aims, etc. but I personally am no conservative, so sometimes I can’t help but to write some critical posts. I guess a little opposition is no harm for anyone…
I have yet to understand why people put much stock in hearing arabs “condemn” terrorist attacks, anyway. They don’t mean it, and, quite frankly, I don’t care if they condemn them or not. All I care about is that they stop trying to destabilize the world and destroy Israel. They can say all the words they want, but their actions are all that matter.
That said, it’s pathetically funny that they won’t even play the stupid game and condemn many of the savage attacks by their side (since, we know, they support them, as they always have).
I for one, though, don’t even care to ask them to condemn anything, since their words are untrustworthy and useless. Then again, we call these dances “Israeli-Palestinian negotiations” but I have yet to have anyone explain what it is the Palestinians have to negotiate? It’s like we are letting the Pals bargain over the price of a car using monopoly money. It is a farce of the worst kind, and a transparent one, at that.
Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas is a liar. First, the war between the Arabs and Israel would end instantly if the Arabs stopped waging war on Israel. Second, since the Soviet Union and Nasser invented the “Palestine Liberation Organization” in Cairo in 1964, the Soviet propaganda of calling Arabs “Palestinian” has been so effective that even Israelis call Arabs “Palestinians.” But “Palestine” has meant “land of the Jews” or ” the Holy Land” (Jesus having been a Jew) since 135 A.D. when the Roman Emperor Hadrian changed the name of Judea to “Palestina” after having defeated the last of the Jewish rebellions under Bar Kochba. That is why the Zionists wanted the “Palestine Mandate,” and Great Britain was awarded the “Palestine Mandate” to be “homeland of the Jews.”
Abbas is another Arab, opposed to the existence of Israel on religious grounds. He and his gang do not deserve yet another state, as in the “two-state solution,” in Judea and Samaria (with the propaganda name of “West Bank”).
The shame in all of this is that most humans possess neither the intellect nor the perspective to see things like this for what they are. Although the circumstance in this case is the Israel-Palestine conflict, the circumstance is quite irrelevant.
The incident is in fact representative of the larger problem that is born of a time in history in which the entire world has already been politically organized. Those humans who have not the capacity to achieve their ends by force, and have not the responsibility to ensure the safety of a parcel of land somewhere, are by definition both impotent and unrestricted. That is why they may intentionally target non-combatants with relative impunity.
Until civilizations wake up and diagnose this for what it is — and until media outlets cease conspiratorial reporting that helps to conceal its true nature — these things will sadly repeat time and time again.
All who would intentionally target civilians deserve universal condemnation and swift death. Those who live in civilized societies are obliged to support and facilitate this.
“President Abbas, you are my partner in peace.” Netanyahu is in a delicate position, having to balance relations with Obama against other key Israeli interests. Those less constrained are free to ask why Abbas, if he can’t bring himself to genuinely condemn even the most bloodcurdling acts of terror, is treated as part of a peace equation at all.
in similar fashion White House praises Abbass for participation in the peace farce – Isarel receives not one bitof credit
This propganda campaign—>you are paying for it
http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/u-s-taxpayers-fund-absurd-palestinian-ad-campaign/
as Gaza sends killers—> you are funding them
http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2010/06/11/obama-pledges-another-400-million-for-hamas-run-gaza/
Keep telling a lie often enough, and people will think it is true.
There is no such thing as Palestinian. They are from Jordan, and Egypt. They got kicked out of Jordan for being like Mohammad. Abbas did a Dr. level paper on the Jews. If we could show it here, it might shed light on how he really feeeeeelllls.
The symbol of their god is on top of their Mosques. It is not the G-d of Moses.
Sadly for Benjamin,he is and Israel will always be outnumbered at any “peace”negotiations. Israel will always be the bad guy,will always be blamed for anything and everything that goes wrong in the mideast(and pretty much anywhere else in the world). By saying what he said,Abbas has proven at least to me that he is not someone looking for peace, but for a bigger slice of the Israeli pie. I will be,as I always try to do,be praying for the safety and security of Israel and it’s people,both in the country and around the world.
The most disturbing comment made by Abbas in his speech at the White House on Aug 31, 2010 was not translated in the official White House transcript nor was it noted in by the CNN commentators during and after the speeches. Abbas said: “We want a peace that will correct the historical injustice caused by the (inaudible) of 1948, and one that brings security to our people and the Israeli people.” I distincly heard the translator use the “inaudible: word, “Nakba”, the Catastrophe, which Abbas, Arafat, Hamas, many Israeli Arabs including Members of the Knesset call the War of Independence that created the State of Israel. If there is any doubt about the bias of the media reporting the words of so-called “Arab moderates” as “partners for peace” and the real intentions of Abbas, the Palestinian Authority, Hamas, Hizbollah, Saudi Arabia, and the rest of the Muslim leadership, the use of the word “Nakba” for the creation of the State of Israel makes clear their true intent–the destruction of the State of Israel.
“Well, Mahmoud Abbas did bankroll the 1972 Munich Massacre. A lot of people don’t know that.
Don’t forget the Achilles Lauro and wheelchair bound Leon Klinghoffer.
“Well, Mahmoud Abbas did bankroll the 1972 Munich Massacre. A lot of people don’t know that.
Don’t forget the Achilles Lauro and wheelchair bound Leon Klinghoffer.
“Well, Mahmoud Abbas did bankroll the 1972 Munich Massacre. A lot of people don’t know that.
Don’t forget the Achilles Lauro and wheelchair bound Leon Klinghoffer. “http://www.specialoperations.com/Images_Folder/library2/achille.html”>
How long as this been going on? Do you ever think Muslims will accept Israel or indeed, any other religion and live together in peace? I fear as long as Islam teaches hate that cannot happen. Time after time they have proven they are unworthily of trust and utterly incapable of living in harmony with even their own tribe or sect. The world is a dangerous place and growing more dangerous by the day as the Jihadists acquire even more powerful weapons. When you see an insane religious fanatic reach for a machine gun and point it at your family the course of action is clear. Mad dogs must not be given the chance to murder others; they must be put out of our misery. A hard choice but the necessary one. With that in mind why wait as their population swells even more in this imaginary land called Palestine? This city becoming a country. Give them one more chance, even though you all know they cannot be trusted and when they stab you in the back again, bulldoze the whole damn place down. Displace them all to another Islamic state and build a very big wall and man it well. The world will twitch and boil until the next crises, which the Muslims will create, but you will have removed the festering boil on your neck. Will it solve the problem? No, only the worldwide outlawing of the Islamic cult will do that but it will roll back the border and maybe dissolve the corrupted UN once and for all. Of course, you can just wait until they nuke you first and poison the rest of the world.