New Emails Suggest Eric Holder Perjured Himself
In testimony in front of Congress on May 3, 2011, Holder insisted he’d only heard of Operation Fast and Furious “a few weeks” before he testified; a story he later change to “a few months.” These emails strongly suggest that Holder was aware of Operation Fast and Furious within 48 hours of Brian Terry’s death, if he did not know already about the operation well before then from the memos he began receiving in July of 2010, six months before the firefight that ended Agent Terry’s life.
Holder’s expected appearance before the House Oversight Committee on Thursday, February 2, is further complicated by the actions of Patrick Cunningham, the chief of the Phoenix office’s criminal division within the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Arizona. Cunningham invoked his Fifth Amendment rights in an effort to avoid testifying in front of the Oversight Committee — you can only invoke the Fifth to avoid self-incrimination. The invocation makes it even less plausible for Holder to claim that DOJ was acting lawfully with the Operation. Cunningham resigned from the U.S. Attorney’s Office on Friday, January 27.
Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa reserved the right to call Cunningham before the committee, and also indicated that he has informed Holder that he will seek a new witness to testify, Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Morrissey. Morrissey directly reported to Cunningham.
Previously, the Department of Justice had refused to allow Morrissey or Assistant U.S. Attorney Emory Hurley (who reported to Morrissey) to testify.
Oversight’s renewed focus on the staff of the U.S. Attorney for Arizona’s office indicates that these officials may be the “weak links” in the cover-up. Oversight will apparently continue to focus on Cunningham, Morrissey, and Hurley, even as they grill Holder later this week.
Their former boss, Dennis Burke, is also undergoing renewed scrutiny. Burke’s 23-year career as the architect of anti-gun legislation lends credence to theories that Operation Fast and Furious and other alleged gun-walking operations were imposed by the Obama administration to help support the 90 percent lie. The 90 percent lie was a manipulation of gun trace data restated on numerous occasions by President Obama, Attorney General Holder, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano, and other administration officials as they argued for more restrictions on gun sales. The claims seem particularly vicious and deceptive at this time, as we now know that the ATF was forcing gun dealers to supply cartel straw purchases with weapons.
Attorney General Holder’s stated intent to reimpose the “assault weapon ban” Burke authored during the Clinton presidency makes the connection between Burke’s past, the gun-walking plot, and Holder’s hopes of reinstating the ban even more suspect.
But any investigation is OBVIOUSLY nothing but a Nazi racist witch hunt because AmeriKKKa hates its president and AG of color, right?
What? Your comment makes no sense, and is irrelevant to the conversation at hand.
Your trollfu in extremely weak…
Hang all the traitors to the constitution of the United States of America.
of course he perjured himself. will congress do anything is the question
Sadly I vote, NOPE, they will not do anything…. politicans need to stand up, be counted, and be pushed to to do the right things…. Its up to all of us to do that….and nothing will change as long as the DIMS keep giving the worst among them a free ride… If the left came out today screaming to give Holder the boot he would be gone by Friday. DIMS even defend their perv weiner from NY or a congress man with thousands stashed int he freezer…or HOLDER the liar.
The republicans eat there own. I am happy we kick the failures amongst out, but sommethimes we do not defend our own which irritates me. Like Lott when he made an almost gone Senator feel good on his B-Day and we kicked him out of the speakership… that was sad and we did not stand up for our own…. WRONG.
Nope. The DC blowhards will huff and puff to make us great unwashed feel good, but in the end, they are all in the same bed. Tar and feather the whole scummy lot.
This would be even more ‘horrible’ if it were known outside a very narrow band of websites.
this is true.. and it should be a darned big story!!
It’s all going to be blamed on Bush…and Holder will get a raise and pattedon the back…
there is no justice with this administration
This is going to be a movie someday, I hope it doesn’t end with 2nd Amendment being struck down…
If it is a movie such as the one you describe, expect it to end like “The Wild Bunch”……at least at my house.
I wish it were true, Chief, it could be a great movie. But guess who owns “the means of [movie] production? Yep, the Marxist movie industry. Their agenda is to defeat the 2nd amendment and the true movie would not fit their meme. They make the movies and truth would not prevail. I would like to be wrong.
Eric Holder is a joke.
His slimy, dissembling lies in support of his administration’s agenda of gun control are pathetic.
As I (vaguely) recall Janet Napolitano also testified she wasn’t informed of Agent Terry’s death at the time it happened, December 2010 with weapons provided to cartels under F&F.
These peoples’ heads are somewhere else, either up their proverbial you know whats or on Mars.
Can you guys viralize this?
“Congressman attempts to transfer Fast and Furious blame onto NRA ‘radicals,’
the Senate — Holder obliges.
By Matthew Boyle – The Daily Caller Published: 12:00 AM 12/09/2011″
http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/09/congressman-attempts-to-transfer-fast-and-furious-blame-onto-nra-radicals-the-senate-holder-obliges/#comment-425694954
Send it to all your friends, asking them to forward it to all their friends,
and asking them to also send comments to the blog.
Is this kosher, webmeister?
I don’t care how we get rid of Holder the incompetent but I’m all for it.
Holder should’ve been fired at his first press conference, when he announced he was the AG for black people and that the DOJ would in the future be a branch of the NAACP. This was not long after the inauguration featuring yazzamatazz poetry and kids in zoot suits playing craps. They should’ve held it a few blocks away for more authenticity. They would’ve needed an infantry division as bodyguards but it would’be been keepin’ it real. It’s the Payback Machine, which is as good a name as any for the Obama administration.
Where is Al D’Amato when you need him?
I don’t understand why no one has been arrested or at least indicted over this project. Oh wait, it was the federal cops running it.
Other than a couple hearings, why is Congress not impeaching these people? An operation that crossed jurisdiction between DOJ, State, DHS, Border Patrol, FBI and God know who else, would have to be at least discussed if not signed off in the Oval office.
This makes Watergate and Iran/Contra look like child’s play. People were killed as a direct result of government activities.
Because impeachment proceedings are done in the currently Democrat controlled Senate. If the House pushed for impeachment they’d go up before the Senate and it would be a circus court to prove them innocent except for a few scapegoats.
The House is holding out until after Jan 2013 in the hope they will gain control of the Senate so we can actually prove these twits guilty without a mis-trial or some other shenanigans occuring.
TrueBlue said, “Because impeachment proceedings are done in the currently Democrat controlled Senate. If the House pushed for impeachment they’d go up before the Senate and it would be a circus court to prove them innocent except for a few scapegoats.”
I generally agree with the thrust of TB’s remark, but the Ds in the senate simply won’t care that Holder and his DOJ accomplices have actually done what they will be accused of doing. Everyone in the senate knew Clinton had lied repeatedly under oath about his conduct with Monica L, but the D senators voted not guilty anyway.
I think we can agree that the President lying about inappropriate but consensual sexual activity is a little different than intentionally trafficking in weapons to a country that is known to have a out-of-control organized criminal gangs that has resulted in the deaths of some 50,000 people. This man is the highest law enforcement officer in the nation, and if this is the standard to which the Democrats hold him to, it says a great deal about who the Democrats are as a party. Everyone should be calling for his resignation, but most especially the Democrats.
You guys forget, they didn’t vote on Clinton’s impeachment until AFTER the election.
Nope, just the opposite. I can’t think of a better way to kill the Obama admin than to impeach the AG. Imagine being July 2012, and you are a Dem senator in a purple state up for reelection and you have to deal with explaining to your constituents why you won’t vote a gun-running AG out of office. They’ll flee the Obama administration faster than an Italian ship captain.
TrueBlue: Not quite right: The House impeaches, the Senate removes. You are, though, ultimately right as to the outcome. The House can impeach all it wants, the Senate will not remove.
Impeachment is always done by the House of Representatives. An already impeached AG would then stand trial in the Senate with the House of Representatives acting as the prosecution, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court as the Judge, and the Senate as the jury. Even then, the result of a conviction is just the loss of the AG job. There is no sentencing phase in this proceeding. But the result does place the convicted AG back into private civilian status where he supposedly can be tried and punished for his crimes. So, this post is probably accurate in that there is probably no point to impeachment unless the Senate is controlled by the Republicans as well. This procedure cost the Republican party dearly when they tried to impeach Clinton for perjury, and they don’t want to go through that scenario again. The only way to get rid of Holder, will be to vote out his boss. We had better get working on that scenario right away!
General PM is coooo-rect: of course he perjured himself. Using cover from the media, his Senate pals, and what few House pals are left, he’ll remain on the SS Barack until it sinks in November. Any investigation would likely last beyond Jan 20, 2013, so for him to abandon ship now while the gettin’ is good would be against his self-interests.
One could opine that Holder has more honor (barely) than Schettino – at least Holder is remaining on the ship until it completely sinks. Both, however, caused some of their crew to be killed.
Prosecute them all.
“Suggests?” “Suggests?”
If I recall correctly, Holder evaded being sworn in at the last hearing, with Democrats in high dudgeon ta the thought, saying something like–”how dare you subject our Attorney General to this indignity, are you insinuating that he might be a liar–all, I suppose, so that Holder, when eventually caught in his bald-faced lies, might be able to argue that “technically” he did not commit perjury.
Well, this time, I’d swear him in on a stack of Bibles, relentlessly grill the hell out of him, and accept no evasions by him or attempts by Democrats to try to shield him from questioning, obstruct the hearing by a lot of histrionics, or divert the hearing onto other matters.
Since the media is overwhelmingly for Obama nothing will come of this. If you’re not really interested in what your government is doing and you get your information from the regular media you will think this is some technical tit-for-tat partisan bickering and not the wicked affront to the rule of law that it is.
Undocumented from Mexico = good. Three hundred dead from American guns in Mexico is also good? Border Patrol agents don’t count becuase there’s only one of them? Did he not pay his union dues? The Democrats need to work on their message.
Yes, Holder perjured himself. The House needs to impeach him. If they won’t uphold the law, they need to go.
Will this happen? No. I predict a pardon for Holder on the last day of the Obama administration. On the bright side, we are unlikely to face another monologue on race.
This is only slightly related, but another possible DoJ screw up came out in the Slimes a few days ago.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/28/us/politics/issa-voices-concerns-that-dea-operation-needs-oversight.html
These two pilots were stuck in a Panamanian prison for seven months and still can’t leave the country.
Geez… He perjured himself to get the nomination…
The law that was broke is called the “Kingpin Act,” and it was crafted especially for entities that were running guns to the narcotic cartels of Mexico, it is unfortunate that all those who are thought to be criminal under this law are Democrats and very high ones at that. With all the stonewalling by the Democrats on this ‘false flag’ operation don’t they realize yet that this isn’t going away and that someone who was instrumental in formulating the plan that got so many cops murdered has to be thrown under the bus for the good of the Democrat Party; to bad for those miscreants in the DOJ that this couldn’t “be held under the radar” but the murder of over 250 Police Officers in Mexico and the United States was just to much. Cunningham will be given immunity and the game is over then, the first to sing is out of it but rest will get 50 years and millions in fines and if RICO is brought in with the “Kingpin Act” whole departments will fall. “Fast and Furious” was a murderous conspiracy and there has to be justice for those killed like dogs for marxist politics.
If only what you say were so. But sadly it is not. With reference to “Ken C.” the #13 commenter above whereby Ken states, “Since the media is overwhelmingly for Obama nothing will come of this. If you’re not really interested in what your government is doing and you get your information from the regular media you will think this is some technical tit-for-tat partisan bickering and not the wicked affront to the rule of law that it is.”
Ken has it right. The MSM decided to kill this story long ago. This behavior on the part of a Republican administration would bring it down. Since the MSM is nothing more than the propoganda arm of the Democrat party it will nowhere.
Eric Holder lost any authority to be AG of these United States when he referred to Blacks as “my people” in congressional testimony. Mr Holder all Americans are “your people” when you hold such a high office to state otherwise turns your sworn duty completely upside down. The only way to rectify this situation is immediate resignation.
Lay off Eric Holder. He is one of “my people”. He walks upright; and he is able to speak incoherently.
Whoever the GOP nominates, they should make Rudy Giuliani their Attorney General, and John Bolton Secretary of State. These 2 could clean house in the 2 most CORRUPT Departments of this most CORRUPT Administration.
The voters themselves can clean house in the most CORRUPT Legislative Branch.
The bozos in the White House are about throw away the US tradition of peaceful transfers of power (42 of 43 so far). One of the big reasons for peaceful transitions of power it the tradition that administrations will “self-police” and in exchange, incoming administrations will not “go after” members of previous administrations.
As the Chicago machine thugs now occupying the WH are about to find out, refusal to self police abrogates that tradition, and that is the beginning of the end as far as peaceful transition of power goes.
I keep hoping that Congressman Issa will be able to get the courts to try and convict AG Holder of of perjury, but I would like to see more in Agent Terry’s death. Nothing would make me happier than to see Holder in chrome bracelets during the perp walk on the capitol steps. I am not holding my breath though.
Eric Holder needs to go.
In addition to orchestrating F&F, he also is obstructing justice on MBS Fraud.
Holder and his top DOJ lieutenants are all alumnae of Covington & Burling. Holder and Breuer were senior partners at the firm in 2004, when the firm issued legal opinion justifying MERS business model to the lending and title industries.
MERS is the electronic registry that juiced the issuance of MBS – and violated 400 years of settled property law. MERS is being sued by DE and counties across the US for clouding title on 60-100 million homes.
We now know there are no mortgages to back MBS. Investors are holding nothing more than pools of unsecured debt.
Investors were fleeced $11 trillion.MERS was the energizer bunny for the MBS fraud.
MERS is also responsible for breaking the chain of title and destroying private property values.To date, homeowners have lost $7 trillion in equity.
MERS was also a tax avoidance scheme and allowed banks to avoid paying state and county recording fees and transfer taxes.We calculated TBTF owes NJ $87 million in unpaid land recording fees and $90 billion in unpaid transfer taxes.
To date, not one CEO who committed this massive control fraud has been investigated, no less prosecuted.
Holder & Breuer are covering for Covington Burling,and their client MERS. They clearly have a conflict of interest and should be forced to resign.
Holder must go.
…know why these cases seem so weird to us? It’s the new disconnect between their importance and their seeming unserious treatment by the legal system. It’s new, and we-the-people are not used to it. Here’s the story:
Here’s the story –with the nut graf excerpted here:
The issue of direct payments to the justice department by offending US corporations is a worrying trend. It is one that has risen sharply under the Bush administration and was first championed by former attorney general John Ashcroft. In lieu of a trial, companies are allowed to pay a fine directly to the justice department. These agreements are readily accepted by companies, as they are cost effective, avoid the stigma of public trial and don’t set precedents. None of the money paid goes to affected individuals or communities, which leaves any sense of justice wanting. There is also valid concern that abuse of this system may lead to companies being less scrupulous.
No trial, no testimony, no news!
Obama will pardon Holder on his way out of the Oval Office door in 2013.
That’s OK. Once pardoned, he can’t plead the 5th. Once a R AG and Congress takes over, Holder can be brought before Congress and the courts and compelled to testify under oath w/o benefit of the 5th to shield him from testifying (the pardon simply immunizes him from criminal liability for acts committed up to the pardon date). If he fails or refuses to testify, he can be indicted, convicted, and imprisoned on those charges. Holder’s goose is cooked either way – if there’s someone with cojones in the next Administration.
obammy can’t let holder go. there is still lots o’ justice left to do before the honest demorats multivote in nov. no telling how he will need to act to save his accomplice from the states and the people before fraud, er i mean election time. besides, wouldn’t the kenyan just pardon holder in jan. ’13? but then, who is going to pardon him. he!!, nixon’s breakin looks like small potatoes compared to this crowd’s antics.
i agree holder needs to be under oath when testifying. these slick con men all have free aa law degrees and know how to slither around the law. odumbo sealing all the murder files is just what el stupido does (sop) when he gets in a bind. it is amazing ANY emails about this got released.
this is not going away. as a matter of fact, we the people can make it like a boil on bho’s behind, ready to come to a head around vote time.
if they make a movie about all this crooked crap later, too bad the 3 stooges are not around anymore to play the lead roles.
One thing for sure if Obama can silence CBS News, like they have Susan Atkinson, who was on this story from the beginning and started to unravel some things but then she went quiet. Think Obama had her silenced or asked CBS News to stop the investigation into this corrupt, criminal operation? I’m just asking…..
assume?
yes we can assume you are a liar and a pathetic idiot!
How much evidence do we need that Holder is lying through his teeth? When you have people working for him who are taking the Fifth, something is very, very, wrong. And when are you going to see this plastered all over the mainstream media? When is the New York Times and the Washington Post going to take a BIG interest in this case? Oh, never, of course, so long as Obama is in the White House. Pathetic.
Considering the Obama Administrations attitude towards the rule of law, it is not all that surprising.
We have a third world economy because we have a third world president.
At this stage of development, the interesting question is why now? In the age of email, Congress continuously engages in a discovery process against the Executive branch, “for all documents”. The response is a truck load, copies of all government lunch menus for the last two years, with the best desserts redacted, and various old phone directories. Over a year later, we just learn that the personal assistant to the AG got a hot email about a murdered BP agent, and would brief the boss ASAP. That is his job. We know that last week, the highest DoJ prosecutor in the state of Arizona plead the fifth and left his government career.
It is obvious that crimes have been committed: thousands of weapons were knowingly facilitated to drug lords by US federal employees, and the weapons have been used in hundreds of murders. There are a finite number of people who obviously committed serious crimes. Most are skilled attorneys. What did they hope to achieve by releasing documents which put the lie to some previous testimonies?
From prior job shuffles, it appears to be a game of musical chairs, and the music stops when some preselected Judas goat is offered up. There doesn’t appear to be volunteers. If and when one knowledgeable player cracks, and sings to save his own hide, the truth will tumble out. It is inevitable that this will be swept into the Presidential campaign. Since the population of voters who ever heard of Fast & Furious is almost zero, it will be considered as just one more partisan smear job, particularly by the MSM. The prize is the White House.
It may work.
What is going to happen first: Will Holder be forced to resign as a result of the Fast and Furious scandal or will the “mainstream” media actually start covering the scandal?
Ol Scoot and Martha Stew. did time over much less than what Eric has wrought but it is required that we hold conservatives and rich people responsible for their transgressions.
Time to play hardball with Holder. Fess up, resign, or be charged.
Hold the presses, the Democrats specifically the honorable E.E. Cummings has just released a report indicating that former POTUS Bush and the state of Arizona are responsible for this failed program:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/31/in-new-report-two-justice-officials-call-fast-and-furious-criticism-absurd/#content
I remember when Clinton denied playing with cigars. Boy he sure got punished, didn’t he? The attitude is that politicians lie. And we all know even if caught a few rough words will be said and then the pol can move on to the next level. Featured speaker at dinner raising money to help save the dolphins for an honorarium of 60 thousand dollars.
Holder was born with a lie in his mouth. The chip on his shoulder is bigger than K2. Enough already, impeach and evict.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/cloward-piven-the-ultimate-goal-of-gunwalker/
This is a few months old but it is foundational (Owens does some head-scratchin’ & chin rubbin’) and worth a re-read as it augments all the current day to day events in the scandal.
Also, the comments are extremely good.