My Very Own TSA Nightmare
“Pat downs or Full-Body Imaging? TSA Airport Backlash” screams the headline for an article on OpenMarket.org. My only quibble with the piece is that the headline implies there is an either/or choice at the security barrier. I went through the process on Monday and got both the scan and the pat-down — and more.
I was traveling from D.C. to Maine via the Baltimore airport. The line was moving very slowly thanks to a woman who refused to be scanned or groped. This confused the TSA officers to the point that they began chatting about what to do with her.
As usual, I stripped myself of anything metallic except my earring and buttons. I put all of it in a gray bin and pushed my bag through the machine, after having to wait for several people in wheelchairs to cut in front of me and go through the process.
I went through the scanner fully cooperating and followed the instructions. Yet I was still taken aside as I exited the machine. No warning bells went off like with the old metal detectors, so I thought it might be random.
As I was asked to move aside, a TSA woman said to me: “Do you know you look like Ron Jeremy (the porn star)? I guess you get that a lot.” I replied that I also got “Gene Simmons,” which I preferred. Needless to say, I replied to them in a polite manner despite the inappropriate banter.
They took me aside and did the pat-down, feeling all over my body as is their habit. Then the TSA officer proceeded to feel my stomach as if I were a pregnant woman. He explained that I had a hard patch on my stomach and they wanted to check it and make sure it was all me. It was painful and disturbing.
“Why was it necessary to embarrass and humiliate me? What was accomplished by this disgusting display by a power-drunk staff?”
There’s a line in the ancient Jewish ethical text, “Chapters of the Fathers” that goes roughly as follows: “One who humiliates another, even if he has studied Torah and performed good deeds, has no share in the world to come.” That shows how serious is the dignity of one’s fellow man. Perhaps that’s why when one flies through Israel’s Ben Gurion Airport there are no full body scanners, they don’t make you remove your shoes, and only those who raise suspicions are sent aside for closer examination. There are no “power-drunk staff” feeling up grandma or molesting children screaming “Stop touching me!” while the parents stand by helpless, intimidated by government authority.
We’re beyond the point of “security theater”. Let’s start with a little common sense. The enemy is laughing at us as we foster a demoralized public, all to avoid naming and focusing on that enemy.
Amen – I agree with every word.
Can we not learn from the most terrorized nation in the world?
Israel is our ally and especially in this war. They are a democracy and could teach us how to deal with these threats. Our governments have been out of control for some time – we seem to be finally waking up.
Nothing can be learned from Israel while the democrats are in power. Remember that the DEMOCRATS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS.
oh, I understood, read, that the Jews vote Democrat as a virtual block. So..they must think democrats are their friends.
The *Democrats* are the problem you see?
You have GOT to be kidding.
Has it completely slipped your mind — and I say this as a WTC survivor — that these horrific abuses were empowered by the Patriot Act, which was signed into law by George W. Bush II on Occtober 26, 2001?
Israel is our ally?
Tell that to our commander and chief who recently tried to bribe Israel with an offer to reject any UN Security Council resolution that didn’t recognize Israel’s right to existence, for one whole year. With the anti-Israel attitude this president and administration have displayed, it’s doubtful they would even admit to Israel’s overwhelming success at preventing airline related terrorism.
That Israel profiles (looks for the terrorist, not the bomb) is simply out of the question to liberals who would rather violate the entirety of the 4th Amendment and the “right to privacy” they’ve found in the Constitution then to allow profiling. Profiling would be against the Constitution they tell us with great indignation. Sexual assault however is acceptable in the name of security. Can you imagine the outcry from liberals if this new heightened security measure had been implemented under Bush?
Heads would have exploded.
Yet, since this is being done under Obama and his administration the policy of “Hope and Grope” is barely causing an eyebrow raise from the usual suspects on the left.
This is not safety.
This is about compliance.
They say jump… We jump.
The humiliation of the Grab-and-Shake is intentional, and finely calibrated to make the Naked Booth the less offensive option. But the TSA is finding out, quickly, that if you give your employees instructions to routinely humiliate citizens as a matter of procedure, they quickly become inhumane, power-drunk thugs.
This outcome is even worse for the TSA employees than the flying public. A traveller only has to deal with this for a few minutes every now and then. The TSA employee has to live in this nightmare 40 hours a week.
I identify with your experience, Ian. In fact, it gives me pause about traveling by air at all. Three months ago I had abdominal surgery for an intestinal blockage. I have scarring the length of my trunk that is similar to yours, only it is much fresher. Handling it roughly or kneading it could have very serious consequences, including creating adhesions where none existed. Furthermore, the stitches that were made in my intestine can be felt and are visible through my skin. Also, before having surgery I had to have two CAT scans, which employ high dosages of radiation. I have also had some other exams that required high dosages of radiation earlier in my life, so I do not want to go through any more such exposure when I can avoid it. It is outrageous that the TSA hasn’t taken people like you and me into account. I wonder if a letter from a doctor describing our problems would prevent this kind of abuse. Thank you for sharing your experience. I suspect there are many more out there like us who will be put in serious jeopardy if these procedures continue.
Faun, so sorry to hear you were subjected to this. I can guarantee, however, that carrying a letter from your doctor will have NO impact on these TSA fools. I have a knee replacement, with a significant identifying scar, and a card from the hospital to carry in my wallet that identifies me as having a legitimate knee replacement. Ever since my surgery I have been subjected to rude, intrusive examinations when flying. The first time I showed them my card the “inspector” laughed. She said anyone can make up a card or a letter from a “doctor.” I pulled up my pant leg to show her the scar. She said a terrorist wouldn’t hesitate to make themselves a scar to cover up carrying a weapon or a bomb on their person. Even after wanding my body and finding the ONLY place the wand found metal was my KNEE, I still had to submit to the full pat down. In the meantime, all of my possessions, including my purse, wallet, passport, laptop, valuables, etc., had to sit on the conveyor belt in full view (and ACCESS) to everyone walking by. The TSA people didn’t even watch it for me, but I was not allowed to gather it to bring it to the area where I was being searched. Believe me, I don’t fly unless absolutely necessary anymore.
I know what you say.I live in Australia and the airport”pat down ” for metal knees is horrible. Same here with all your stuff left on the conveyor belt for anyone to take. The idiots they employ could not get a real job.Some metal scanning machines will recognise an implant,but older ones wont.Sorry,can’t get away from it here.
So far when traveling I have not been subjected to the humiliation of this situation.
My daughter-in-law has a prosthetic leg (due to a car accident). She has a card to show because she sets off the metal detectors. At least in New Zealand and Australia they do not view that with suspicion.
…. It is outrageous that the TSA hasn’t taken people like you and me into account …
The TSA and its Gangster Government master HAS taken “people like (you)” into account. And like all the rest of us.
We, The People like you and like all of the rest of us, are the bloody target of the Gangster Government and of its tool, the TSA.
Islamanazis get a pass.
I honestly believe that all this examination and harassment, and humiliation ,is part of the overall plan to slowly take the liberty away. This has all been thought out to the last detail.They will slowly take more and more away.MARK MY WORDS
Indeed. In the end it all comes down to the idea that you
had the termidity to vote against us, so now we’ll find
another way to make you life “Hell”.
Don’t you love that this is all happening when people are focusing
on friends and family for the upcoming holiday. Obama and his
minions just had to remind everyone, “We can get to you at any time”.
No one is taking our freedom from us we are handing it over piece by piece. It started when DB Cooper hijacked a plane in Portland 35 years ago. Before that we just got on a plane and flew. No waiting in lines, no TSA, take your revolver if you like. Just arrive 15 minutes before the flight and go. Freedom is not cheap. I say pull all that crap out of the airports and let people bring on what they like. There will be some casualties but Americans will solve the problem up close and personal. We have nothing to fear but fear.
They might have caused some herniation in your abdominal wall. Scars on muscle tissue (or, adhesions) are not very flexible. Poking and prodding is a definate no-no. Get an examination and a lawyer.
This is all about the same old Washington BS. Politically connwected businessess andpolitical whores.
I have felt since the beginning of this nonsense with TSA and body scanners how reminiscent this is of the policy in the camps of Germany. Sure, the technology has changed, and it’s subtle, but the idea of stripping someone down to nothing (even electronically) or copping a feel, even small children, can only be interpreted as dehumanization. There is no other reason to do that to law-abiding citizens of a nation than to reduce people down to a thing as you would a cow or dog.
It’s well past the time we said stop, with a big stick if necessary.
Claviger, thank you for putting into words the very uncomfortable feeling I have about this whole TSA Scanning and feeling up stuff in the name of “Security and Safety” As a matter of fact it’s the same incredulous feeling of disbelief I had when I went to the Holocaust Museum in DC that HOW in the world could someone allowed that to happen? I think we have our answer.
Because I no longer fly because I’d only get into a fight with the first person who touched me or ordered me to take involuntary radiation treatments and wind up in jail, I propose that regular travelers form a plan to simply strip totally naked, place everything in the gray basket, and oblige the TSA staff. “Isn’t this what you want?” should be the retort to any surprise or outrage by TSA employees. Makes sure the press or someone with a video camera is present to record what ensues. Send the video to Janet Napolitano, with salutations. “Your loving subjects, etc.” or “Your obedient servants,” or “Wish you had been here.” I’m certain this kind of incident would be headline news the TSA and DHS would not welcome.
If TSA staffers reply, “We don’t mean THAT!” ask, “Then what do you mean? Isn’t this what you’re leading up to?”
“It’s not for you to judge. We’re going to have you arrested for indecent exposure! And for anything else we can think of, and we can think of plenty.”
“Presuming you can think,” you should reply sotto voca. If you’re a man, you should say to any female TSA staffer, “Come here, darling, and let me give you a big hug so I can pat YOU down.” If you’re a female passenger, you should latch onto a male TSA staffer, saying, “Hey, big boy, mind if I sample the family jewels?” If you’re a homosexual or lesbian passenger, you can invent your own come-on. I wouldn’t know what that might be.
I think consternation would be an inadequate term to describe the TSA response. Panic, flight, whistle-blowing, bring in the tasers, perhaps. Oh, and be one of you carry a placard printed with the text of the Fourth Amendment.
I had the same idea but my wife nixed it. How about a Borat suit(lime green thong suit)? She’s cool with that. So, next time I fly I’ll be ready to be MORE than helpfull with their search.
I think that all men who are patted down with the enhanced method should tell the TSA goons to stroke a certain way or that they liked how they were touched. Make them squirm, for once.
Codpiece with a padlock.
It is the duty of free citizens to resist tyranny, not go along with it. Being cute, or siggestions for overcomplying show just how far we’ve given up on the idea of personal liberty.
I disagree with the fact that “being cute” is going along with them. In fact it is the compliance with them that is the problem.
The TSA is out of control, and there needs to be action to stop this public humiliation and dehumanization.
Throw it back at them…
“Why was it necessary to embarrass and humiliate me?”
No reason except to show you who’s boss. To show you that you can be poked, prodded, and insulted by strangers wielding authority they should never have been granted in the first place.
You now answer to uniformed drones who, at least in places like Detroit, LAX, or Birmingham Alabama, can barely rub six words together to compose a declarative sentence. They strut around in their official, epaulet-decked finery, and are allowed to take liberties with you that even sworn law enforcement officers are not allowed to take.
Why? Because Janet says so.
And you WILL answer and obey that union-protected government official. Or else.
The TSA was not allowed to unionize when it was formed, although I understand there are efforts within the organization to now to unionize.
Yesterday the NLRB cleared the way for the TSA to hold elections for unionization. How much does anyone want to wager that it will pass in a “New York minute”?
The object of the new regs is to teach submission to the proles.
Quite true, in grade school we are conditioned to listen to orders and not question why. In secondary school, we are taught to be productive without means of compensation. In university, we are taught to be productive and listen to orders and be happy about it.
This is just another step in our submissive life.
How very disturbing! I’m so sorry you had to experience the beyond comprehension asinine TSA, Mr. Dodge.
As much as I always disliked the Ben-Gurion security check (and they can be father obnoxious as well), the Israelis at least made sense. We just can’t define the threat and leave law-abiding Americans alone.
Only in America!
At last someone who recognizes that the Israelis are not perfect on the issue.
They do their profiling at other airports than Ben Gaurion. My husband who is a defense contractor was interrogated at Cyprus airport before being allowed to board a flight to Israel… it was a 4 hour interrogation and his staff nearly cracked… even when there was no need to crack.
Compared to Ron Jeremy? Sounds like she was propositioning you.
“…you look like Ron Jeremy.” You should have replied: “Yeah, I get that a lot, but my dick is bigger. Wanna see??”
It’s the TSA, they’ve already seen it.
Now the government can reach not only into our pocketbooks but also into our pants. The answer is laughably obvious. Profile. Let the Israelis train our TSA workers. Hire intelligent people and pay them well instead of hiring thugs and wasting money on faddish technology.
Given the news on Drudge this morning (“HANDS DOWN FLIERS’ PANTS!), politicians who support Janet Napolitano should be asked to have a TSA employee stick his/her hands down their pants in front of a TV camera, just to show us that it’s OK.
I sympathize with you Mr. Dodge and your experience is one more example of why I don’t fly any more unless an emergency requires it. But, my main point is this: why are we not putting the blame where it belongs? The blame should be on the Muslim fanatics that want to kill us by any means possible and are willing to die in the attempt. What do you do to stop killers that put explosives in their anus as actually happened in Saudi Arabia recently? As they get more sophisticated in their attempts so must we in preventing those attempts. Notice I used the word “sophisticated”. The Israelis could teach us some good lessons on how to do it effectively but as yet we can’t learn those lessons because of the left wing political correctness that still rules the day.
AID:
“They took me aside and did the pat-down, feeling all over my body as is their habit. Then the TSA officer proceeded to feel my stomach as if I were a pregnant woman. He explained that I had a hard patch on my stomach and they wanted to check it and make sure it was all me.”
I fly into and out of BWI every month, they ain’t the best TSA cadre in the business, but by no means are they the worst.
I’m sorry to hear that you were forced to submit to a homosexual act. You should have called a TSA supervisor and explained that it is against your religion to have another man who is not a doctor touching you.
Give TSA a headache in trying to reconcile religiously sensitive security policy with their sexual discrimination personnel policies.
One of my beefs with TSA is that I hold a government-mandated TWIC card, (Transportation Workers Identity Credential), which means I have been background-checked and have access to the secure areas of transportation facilities. You would think that they would have a separate line for those of us who have been found trustworthy so that they could focus on the general public.
A few airports have this, and allow TWIC holders to use the “Employees and Crew” line, (Tampa does), but BWI does not.
“I’m sorry to hear that you were forced to submit to a homosexual act. ”
Not sure what this means. What homosexual act?
“Not sure what this means. What homosexual act?”
Is it customary on your planet for a stranger of the same gender as yourself to,uninvited,introduce himself to you by manually manipulating your reproductive organs?
Are you mentally retarded?
I thought it was a security act. It’s not like a bomb in someone’s crotch is unprecedented. And no, I aren’t retarded.
“It’s not like a bomb in someone’s crotch is unprecedented.”
Neither is a pound of C-4 up somebody’s poop-chute.
(Happened last year in Saudi Arabia).
“I thought it was a security act.”
Then you won’t mind soon getting “fisted” as a “security act”.
“And no, I aren’t retarded.”
Aren’t you now?
Then follow the TSA agent into the locked room where he will administer the “Phallic Breathalyzer” to you.
Just close your eyes and tell yourself:
“It’s a security act!”
Bilgeman:
Gracious! “poop-chute . . . fisted . . . locked room . . . Phallic Breathalyzer”
Glory be! Your fear – and your knowledge – seem . . . outsized. If I didn’t know better, I’d swear you were in one of those photos in Zombie’s Frisco piece.
Just close your eyes and tell yourself, “It wasn’t my fault. He was my uncle. Why shouldn’t I do what he says?”
this is worse than any homosexual act— this is “man-rape” and the difference is all about domination and control and needs to be left for the prisons and armageddon scenarios not on our law abiding citizens
Is it customary on your planet for your stomach to be a sexual organ?
Well, here we go…
Our full-time blog troller, part-time stuffed animal molester and sometime savior of the working class non-sensy can’t resist a non-sequitur or three when it comes to something that smacks of his own bizarre ‘affectional preferences’.
How’d that old Gilbert and Sullivan tune go?
“He is the very model of an internet degenerate…”
I believe your comment should be directed at Bilgeman.
“You would think that they would have a separate line for those of us who have been found trustworthy ”
How about the thousands of us that have Top Secret clearances? I’ve had one for over two decades, re-investigated every 5-yrs, but yet I am still poked, prodded and groped by some TSA mouth-breather that would have no chance of ever getting a Secret clearance, let alone a Top Secret clearance.
This is madness.
I was pulled out simply for the crime of wearing an ankle brace, so I sympathize. The brace is part of my normal life now, due to the damage I did when I shattered my amkle a few years ago. I never set off any detectors and it has never been a problem before. But in July, even before this circus, it was.
The brace was in full view, in the open, and it was painfully OBVIOUS that nothing could be “hidden” in it, as it is basically a splint with bands. The only thing I could hide in it without it being seen or the brace bulging suspiciously would be a few coins or folded paper.
I was asked, nicely, if I could take it off, which I could not. So, I was pulled out, into a clear room, in the middle of everything, people starring, my stuff out of my site. My leg was swabbed (which I ended up getting a burn from, believe it or not. And I’m NOT allergic to gauze so I don’t buy that their swabs are “dry”),then released.
I came right out and asked if I was pulled out only because of the brace, and the TSA person said it was. Now with all of this going on now, I will NOT fly untill security theatre is over. And if they go to iris scans or prints, as I’ve heard discussed, then driving will be my main mode of transport.
I do want to say, however, that the 2 TSA people were VERY nice. The one guy was asking me how I ended up in the brace, and we actually had a nice conversation. Same with the second, who was appoligizing left and right to me for being pulled out. She actually felt it was foolish as well, but this was the “new proceedure”. She was also quite helpful and got my shoes for me and both asked if I needed any assistance getting to my gate.
However, I still won’t fly any longer. It’s not terrorists that lead me to this decision….It’s abuse by my own government.
BTW…Kudos to the woman who refused to be molested. Everyone needs to do the same. Think what THAT would do.
The problem with refusing to fly anymore is that we imagine that it will save us from the indignities of having strangers grope us and the health risks of x-ray over-exposure. Fewer of us, then, will be around to complain, and the TSA will have a freer hand to do its job; and the administration will call it a great success. They’ll then begin to impose similar measures at other venues, until the American people are harassed on a daily basis, everywhere they go.
And when we complain, they’ll say we’re being unreasonable because we did nothing to stop them from stripping us of our 4th Amendment protections — from the beginning of the enhanced procedures — which necessarily means (and this is a valid legal argument) that we gave our consent long ago to becoming sheep for the sake of our safety.
Fight now when you can or you will not be able to later. I’m not kidding. This bodes very ill for our freedoms. If they can get us to “calm” down and get with the program, there is no end to the tyranny in store for us later on. For they will have pegged us for the wimps we are, and smelling blood, will swoop down for the kill in a blink of the eye.
They will understand that liberal indoctrination into anti-discrimination and multiculturalism and tolerance have at last subdued a once-free people.
Did she say which part of you resembled Ron Jeremy?
Lets compare the ethnicity/religious preference of those being harassed to the ethnicity/religious preferences of suicide bombers over the past decade.
This is political correctness at the pinnacle. The founding fathers would be screaming at us for putting up with this BS.
Ol’ Benji would be one of the first to strip completely in protest.
“Time for an air bath!”
You know, I was thinking about what bothered me most about these searches at the airport. I couldn’t put my finger on it, but there was something about it that not only bothered me, but it also reminded me about something sinister. Then it dawned on me. All of those old, grainy, black and white films of German SS troops ordering women and children to be searched and stripped before taking them away. I know, I know, you can’t compare the two, but still, this image of people in uniform pulling other people out of a line and almost stripping them while searching for contraband just sends a chill down my spine. I think of those Jews who were searched going into and out of the Warsaw Ghetto and I just get mad. Are we now doing the same thing? Of course not, but you just can’t help thinking, “what’s next?” When these searches fail to stop the next terrorist (and you just know one of them will get through with some other creative way of sneaking weapons on board the plane), what will the TSA do to us then? Allow an extra two hours on to your flight for a full body/cavity search? I guess I’ll be taking a lot more driving trips from now on. What a shame it has come to this and I’m sure it’s not going to do the airline industry any good.
Well, the solution to the SS problem in Europe was that very few SS personnel ended up as POW’s.
Just sayin’!
LibertyShip:
Not only that, if taken to the extreme and some quit flying then what does that do? It limits your mobility, does it not? One more police state feature to the mix. Submit or be limited in your associations.
The terrorists win as do the Fascisti in DC.
I stopped flying about 5 years ago due to the security requirements. It hasn’t bothered me at all. Try it. You just might find that America is a very beautiful country.
America is a very beautiful country. Why that does that mean it’s cool to force Americans with friends and family in overseas to choose between being violated, and never seeing them again?
Yes, and one way is to travel by train but the trains are not frequent enough, and problems do develop when traveling on them. However, it is a pleasant way to see America.
Hey how come he got one and I didn’t? We must all show up at the gate and DEMAND OUR HAND JOB!
Terrorists are planting explosives inside people, for instance like a breast implant, and possibly in children. There is no end to their evil. The full scan is the only way to fight this with technology, but Israel has a better way. Dump political correctness and target our true enemies.
The full scan does nothing to stop terrorists with implanted/inserted bombs from getting through. The scan only penetrates 1/10th of an inch, the terrorist who desires to put a bomb up his butt will pass right through the scan. So much for that technology. What will we do when butt bomber succeeds?
We’ll hunt down the people who funded the bomb, trained the guy, and set the whole thing up, and then we’ll kill them. We’ll kill anyone who helped them, or even stood nearby and did nothing about it. Then it will stop.
There will always be crazies willing to put C4 up their ass and blow themselves and an airliner to Kingdom Come. But they’re not the point, and trying to stop them is insane. A crazy can’t BY HIMSELF get the explosives, design the bomb and detonator, research the security theatre, pick the target — or pay for all this. That takes non-crazy people with an agenda. The crazy is just their weapon of choice. THEY are who we should be targeting.
I mean, if someone has a gun on you, you don’t fire AT THE GUN. You fire at the person, because the person is the dangerous thing. Our security theater is the same as firing at the gun. We need to re-target, fire at the organization and people behind the “gun” — the crazy terrorist.
Carl,
“I mean, if someone has a gun on you, you don’t fire AT THE GUN. You fire at the person, because the person is the dangerous thing.”
Brilliant! Simple, accurate and clear. Applicable to SO many conversational scenarios….I’ve advanced similar in a round about way, but not quite so “neatly” as that (and I’m a frigging FIREARMS instructor!)
I WILL have to steal this line in the future (and probably wont give you credit for it! LOL!!)
Even stupid people cant argue with it!
Carl, that’s perfect and to the point! I’ve been saying that we need to find the bad GUYS, not the bad THINGS.
You have said it better than any I have heard or read. I hope you don’t mind be using it?
Before entering the terminal, everyone will be given a double-shot of “Castor-oil”. Everything should be revealed prior to arrival at the jetway. However, they will need to expand the toilet facilities.
Quite so, Waitin-4-2012. But instead of Americans waking up and smelling the coffee, we’re all sitting around lamenting the deplorable situation and not a one of us wants to tackle what’s really going on.
Liberals and the left — drip, drip, drip — have so brainwashed Americans that most of them don’t know that our government has crafted immigration policy to deliberately dilute and eventually marginalize what remains of Western civilization and its Judeo-Christian underpinnings in our country. It’s been a long time coming, but slowly, by decreasing immigration from Europe and increasing immigration from non-Western societies — many of whom have birthrates higher than ours, and many of whom will not assimmilate — our nation is taking on a character very different from the America of our Founders. And if you think I’m batty or paranoid, then you haven’t been paying attention to what’s happening in Europe.
This problem must be faced and addressed. To ignore is to give your silent consent to the ongoing dismantling of America. It’s this dismantling and the weakness it projects that has the armies of Islam on the move again.
This is just part of the new Obamacare. (It was on page 2024 of the bill.) When you go to the airport you get both a security check and a health screening!
Some enterprising libertarian organization should setup a full body scanner and a dozen TSA-looking-acting examiners on the steps of the Capitol. The press can watch the attitudes as our various Congress(wo)men pass through the system – and we can broadcast the nudie pictures to boot.
Next time be the flaming transvestite who would just love the touch of a big strong man in uniform.
“We hire the best, so you don’t have to worry about the rest!”
TSA motto.
They advertise TSA jobs on pizza boxes, so it’s unlikely the candidates are of a caliber much higher than the deliverey boy himself. With apologies to pizza delivery boys.
I am beginning to think this is all an Obama plot to force everyone to go back to AMTRAK and to end reasonably priced and reasonably scheduled travel altogether. Back to the ox-cart for the peasants!
That will be foolish, as it was bleedin oxcarts such as ours what carried the Aristocrats of France to their appointment. Upended, they make a fine barricade, over which strip-titted Liberty may lead the blunderbussed and top-hatted People. My culottes are off to you.
Time to ramp up profiling and CAIR can kass my iss.
Every terrorist we have captured has had warning signs. Been to Yemen – no fly. Attended certain Mosques – no fly. Send email to certain foreign Countries – no fly.
Now, if she had said you looked like Ron Jeremy _after_ you went through the scanner…
You know, these idiots at the TSA and their enablers seem to be the only ones not getting the point that randomly giving 5% of travelers the full prison treatment while 95% breeze by just doesn’t make a lick of sense. If its really critical to security as they claim, everybody should be required, right? If they’re worried about a random 5%er carrying a bomb in his stomach… well what about the other million people that just strolled through a metal detector unchallenged? Only a government bureaucrat could possibly believe they have identified a legitimate threat through the efficiency of random selection.
Exactly right, there is no statistical sampling formula that makes sense here. Its not truly “random” and its not by “suspicion” or heaaven forbid “profile” so its less than useless
Mark,
You are exactly right, there is no statistical sampling formula that makes sense here. Its not truly “random” and its not by “suspicion” or heaaven forbid “profile”, so its less than useless.
Just like most Goverment make work jobs, it doesnt do anything useful (union bums, public schools, arts funding?) but it keeps a constutuancy on the dole, and in the voting booth, to cancel us out as much as possible.
I work in the Pentagon where everyone has security clearance up to “Ridiculous” requiring multiple background checks, has to show a Building Pass to a security guard outside before accessing the entrance where you then “swipe” that Building Pass to get through the turnstiles. All around are numerous well-armed intimidating guards. Yet…yet…they still pull people out of the turnstile queues for additional screening, metal detector scanning, searching through your briefcase, etc…
As if the people who work inside the Pentagon, dedicated to protecting this country and our troops around the world are a threat to one another! When I challenged them on this they merely responded “Oh, just trying to keep you safe”…”From whom?”…”From an attack”…”By whom?”…”By anyone”. And therein lies the problem – Everyone is suspect, we’re all a threat and should all be treated as potential terrorists. Drives me insane and there’s nothing the individual can do about it. Some faceless omnipotent bureaucracy decides that this is how people will be treated.
I have decided that with the TSA it is humiliate or be humiliated. The proper response is to make them despise themselves and fill them with self loathing. I wasn’t xray scanned or searched when I travelled the other day but as I went through metal scanner I noticed that the attendant had a diamond stud so I bent my wrist and in my best queen voice I complimented him on his “accethories”. I suppose that if I am ever patted down I will ask that they put on some lipstick and get down on their knees. I will tell them my “safe” word and ask them to be gentle and when the touching starts I will moan audibly.
Quit whining. A lot of us are not keen on getting on a plane with a guy or a gal carrying a bomb. Would you be willing to send your children across country to a summer camp knowing there would be no searches made on their fellow passengers? How about your parents? Your wife or fiance? Lets spend more time figuring out how to detect bombs INSIDE a (the M-word that can not be said aloud) and less time sniveling.
“Lets spend more time figuring out how to detect bombs INSIDE a (the M-word that can not be said aloud) and less time sniveling.”
We could cut them all open.
Or how about we put them in a full size airplane simulator, properly equipped to minimize blast effects, and try and fool them into thinking that they’re actually airborne.
This is rather how we kill Medfly larvae in South African produce in the containerized trades. we vary the temperature during the voyage so that the little bugs think that it’s spring and then hey all hatch before we plunge the temperature back down to just above freezing and kille them all off.
6 hours in the simulator, and if no bombs go off, then they get board the real plane.
- this also is in response to #38 (who should read more, since it’s possible to get ceramic on a plane in other ways, the scanners and luggage xrays are only as good as the people manning them, and there’s always a possibility of the ground crew being compromised- that’s probably more of a danger than a passenger smuggling something on)
@ImHappynBP
Would you be happy knowing that someone is looking at your kid naked on a monitor, or possibly touching them in places that usually send others to jail? Where’s the age limit drawn? 18? so a 16 yr old ‘i hate the world’ depressed kid could get through? Who do you think terrorists will start recruiting? It wouldn’t be that hard.
Is the age limit younger? 12 maybe? Where’s the line drawn? Or heaven forbid, we get some parents here like the Palestinians that are in favor of strapping bombs to (or perhaps, in) kids? Then what? Pat down 6 yr olds? Toddlers? I’m not joking- where’s the line? If it’s such a ‘real possibility’, then you can bet that at some point, some ‘dedicated terrorist’ is going to use a child, and will go younger and younger.
Are you happy knowing that otherwise decent people (I don’t think all TSA are bad, I’ve met some very nice ones in my few travels) are being forced to get, ahem, personal with your genitals, or your wife’s breasts? Or your sister’s? Or your mothers’s? Are you happy that some really messed up people who slipped under the radar might, in fact, legally be able to get their jollies now?
Will you still be happy when someone smuggles a bomb on inside their person, and the TSA demands the right to perform deep scan xrays, or perhaps full body searches, including cavity checks?
Are you happy giving up your 4th amendment rights? Should we just allow police to randomly barge into the homes and businesses of 5% of the general population (including hospitals and clinics) and search, or randomly stop 5% of whoever they see on the street, or pull over anyone on the road, without probable cause? This is exactly what the TSA is doing. Ex -ing -actly.
Terrorists (this includes drug gangs, in my opinion) live in the general population, drive the same roads, eat at the same restaraunts, and hell, might just work in our offices or take classes with us. The last few acts have even been on the ground, such as at Times -ing square. So, the logic of the TSA should apply at all public and private spaces. You give up your rights against unreasonable search and seizure just by participating in a public place. At least, that’s what the TSA claims. Might as well really be sure and check the private places too.
And you know, I do want security. I do want to know that the bags are scanned, and the airport personnelle checked, and I do want technology that might help prevent weapons getting on planes. I even want gate agents to be trained in reading body language, and more money for air marshals and non-visible security forces. I don’t mind a watch list (if they actually watched the right -ing people…hello, DHS- he -ing traveled to Yemen and his dad said he was dangerous???)
But I don’t want theater. I don’t want bullies. I don’t want money wasted on measures every body else on the -ing planet says are a waste. I don’t want a non-elected official, whom I have no chance of affecting as she is also outside of congressional oversight, doing a song and dance routine about how necessary it is while hypocritically not enforcing the same measures on other areas that need as much, or more, security.
I don’t want strangers checking out any of my relatives, let alone female or minors, either in the electronic nude, or by pat down. And I do NOT want to compromise my rights as an individual of the United States of America, garunteed under the Constitution. I do NOT want to trade my personal freedom and liberty for false security. I do NOT want to waste my tax dollars on ineffective equipment and schemes when we have so many other problems that need the money.
And I refuse to be conditioned to live in fear.
Can you point to one occasion when a non-Muslim brought down an aircraft via a bomb?
I thought not.
Please do not mention the atheist Tim McVeigh. He did not build the bomb that was set off in the Murrah building – that was built by Hussein al Husseini who has never faced justice over his actions.
They see you naked then say, in effect, hey, that’s a big dick you got there! You’re gonna take that from these creeps? They felt they needed to compliment their physical abuse with some from the verbal variety, just for good measure, just in case there was any doubt about what really going on. Sue the shit out these thugs!
It’s been disclosed that we have bedbugs at Lindbergh Field here in San Diego, just to add to the mix. We are advised to place all of our belongings in plastic bags some time between leaving the airport and arriving home and washing, disinfecting, or vacuuming all items before taking them into our home. If the security checks don’t keep me from flying, the bedbugs certainly will.
It was post-scan the Ron Jeremy remark. And the guy had touched my junk before the scar grope.
In that case, Mr. Dodge, you have the full sympathy and support of your fellow tragically-overendowed Americans. I get to decide who I share those gifts with, thank you. We seem to be the last minority who’s openly preyed upon by the little people. And I mean little.
Obviously, the posters here are good, patriotic, god-fearing Christians who live a quiet life of service to God and community. I’m honored to be amidst people who hold themselves to the highest moral standards, and by doing so contribute to the creation of real American communities defined by the Bible and the Constitution and not by the whims and vagaries of our demented culture, which is being further destroyed by the the onanists on the left.
But I do have one question – Who’s Ron Jeremy, and why does everybody here seem to know who he is but me?
Thanks – I needed that laugh!
That’s weird. You got it? Would you be kind enough to explain it to me?
Simple, the state with the most Christians per capita consumes the most porn. (Utah)
It’s just one of the many contradictions of principle that define today’s radical conservative malcontents. More? Filibuster, election recounts, signing statements, freedom of speech, invasion of privacy, use of the Constitution, abuse of the Constitution, support of small businesses, support of our military, transparency, budget cutting, lobbyists, concern about the deficit, executive privilege . . . well, pretty much anything you can name the conservatives will use to club somebody one day and the next flip flop to play the victim. Go figure.
actually the arab and islamic countries (if not blocked by the government ) are the biggest viewers of porn. the numbers would be much higher if there was more internet access.
just go to a internet cafe and look at the history. you will be answered.
too bad you are such a prog. you seem to be able to think ..just not critically.
good luck
Perhaps you should try refudiating something I wrote. Ii wrote about Christians in America, not Muslims around the world. Are they a bunch of hypocritical perverts? Absolutely. I’ve seen it with my very own eyes. That’s something they have very much in common with Christians. The common denominator? Religious guilt leading to a life of sexual repression. Your point?
Grasshopper, the faults of a stupid person are like the sun and the moon – everyone sees them. So spake Confusius.
thumbs up
Born sleazits – Is Onan the Wannabe Jihadist up next?
It was good to go to the vet and get fixed too. When did this happen? Some of Persons Galore are positively mellow these days. Behavior modification, who would think that Skinner wouldn’t be enough. Oh well.
I’m sure the Funhouse Mirror will rev it up in a bit. Some of the Matthew stuff was classic. Multiple posts, bowing out and crawling back, lots of “you guys” and some very careful self censorship. Good dog, the surgery is paying off.
Where the hell is the Neutered Goldstein Galore? Is the Funhouse Mirror promoting it to permanent Kick Me class soon?
No, Persons Galore much like Mr. President, cannot stand sharing the “Hey lookie” at me neon light. So, looks like another case of Modern Liberal Use and Discard. And “hey lookie”…how lame. You know like Jaaaaavvvvvvelllllin. But then again, lameness is a major virtue in the Cesspool.
Whatever.
“Where the hell is the Neutered Goldstein Galore?”
Who among us has not asked this very thing before? Brilliance, everyone. Bow to him.
The cause –
Kick Me sign riveted to Born sleazit ass. Self Kick. Clang.
The effect –
Modern Liberal Liar Circus act = Tangible productive enterprise.
Tangible productive enterprise = Mr. President target.
Mr. President target = Used and discarded Born sleazit ass.
Used and discarded Born sleazit ass. = “My Very Own Taken Sleazits Ass Nightmare”
Where the hell is the Neutered Goldstein Galore?
Whatever.
Seriously, does anyone understand what this guy is talking about? He keeps using the same old bizarre expressions monotonously, tediously and incessantly which don’t make any sense to me. It’s weird, very weird.
Ron Jeremy is you father…..
Ron Jeremy is me father?
Oh please – this little exercise in self-satisfaction (loved your Freudian slip about onanism btw) makes no sense unless the concluding statement is false (and it would have to be intentionally so, which is what those of us who’ve admittedly heard of Ron Jeremy might call a lie…) Otherwise what’s the point of that carefully constructed opening paragraph?
So my question for you, O Transparent One, is are you
a) intellectually dishonest
b) more puritanical than the people you’re trying to caricature
c) a self-righteous bore
d) all of the above
Shame on me for feeding the troll – sometimes a girl just wants to have fun
If you had a sense of humor, irony or me, you’d know right off that I don’t believe anything in the carefully constructed opening paragraph.
I’m not trying to hide my disdain for the hypocrisy of the right. It’s why I come here. The fact that I’m able to artfully construct that point is a source of great frustration for folks around here. That’s why they typically resort to some reference to scat or basements or Cheetos. You see, they can’t handle the truth.
Others, the self-congratulating half-minds like yourself who fancy themselves logicians or linguists embark on a chase for the meaningless nuance, thinking it unveils some deep contradiction or oversight when in fact they’ve missed the point entirely. Here, I’ll put it in terms you can track . . . John Wayne wasn’t really a cowboy.
If I had you?!? Perish the thought.
Tear yourself away from the mirror, nitwit – you’re the one who’s missed the point.
You got called out, deservedly so, for your haughty and ignorant analysis – pedantic, unimaginative, egotistical. But don’t feel too bad, you’re just like every other rabid right wing conservative extremists. Tell me, how do you feel about stomping on women’s heads? How do you feel about Obama spending $200 million per day to fly to India? How do you feel about oxycontin-induced deafness? Married men getting diapered by Bourbon Street hookers?
Wait, never mind, let me stay in the zone you created and just say, “Nuh-uh . . . nanny nanny boo boo . . . I know you ware but what am I?”
Child.
I live in MD. Between parking, check-in and security, it takes less time to drive to Maine than to fly there. And it costs less. And I have a car when I get there.
Hey, does anyone know how much a pat-down technician makes?
What the hell is the TSA (is that an acronym for The Stupid A******s) going to accuse me of secreting in my right knee when they see my knee implant?
All of this invasion of privacy lays at the feet of Barack Obama and the unelected stooges that work for him. Impeachment for violation of the constituion of the United States of America is the only way we shall stop these fools now. Don’t say it can’t be done; because a Communist is in the White House and that couldn’t be done either. We the people are being lied to, abused and fleeced all at once. These events are not just over reaching or over reaction to terrorism, this is oppression and humiliation of a free people by their own elected and unelected government. It won’t stop here; with a destructive economic policy or body scanning invasion at the airport the oppression will continue until we all say enough and that won’t ever be registered until these people are literally thrown out of power for good. The wicked (commies, marxists, socialists and any other form of evil that can be imagined) are all coming out of the woodwork now and while they are exposed they must be removed to a place where they can oppress and humiliate no one but themselves.
Three cheers for Jeffrey. Amen, and amen, and amen.
This is another reason we need an Infidel airline. Pigskin seat covers, meals give you a choice of pork chops or pigcicles. Pork rinds instead of peanuts.
Then the only people flying will be infidels. No self respecting muslim would dare sit on a pig skin covered seat next to someone munching pork skins & and hot sauce.
Then the only screening needed would be to make sure every adult was packing a handgun in case someone gets crazy.
And the liberals that object to flying with guns on board would be more than welcome to fly Delta and subject themselves to standard TSA screening.
Everyone wins.
Which is the lesser evil: having some TSA jerk look at your ugly middle aged body, or having another Richard Reid sneak an explosive or ceramic knife onto a plane? When Israel has to deal with as many airports and passengers as we do then they can run the TSA for us. In the meantime, I say scan everyone who wants to fly on a commercial flight. If you don’t like it – drive.
The TSA has never caught a terrorist – passengers have. This is just kabuki theater.
I’ve heard this before, and each time it sounds like more and more rubbish.
So the Israelis have less to deal with- so what? If you can run one security line, you can run another. If you can run security for one terminal, you can run security for TWO terminals, and if you can do that, you can run it for an entire airport.
If you can run that kind of security for ONE airport, you can do it for ANY airport- it’s a matter of scale. Will it take more people? Heck yes it will. There’ some jobs that someone can brag about, then, and they won’t be useless.
But the claim that the Israeli model won’t work because we’re ‘too big’ is fallacious- if you can properly screen the passengers for an airport like Ben Gurion, you can screen the passengers for each terminal of Atlanta, Chicago, Denver, and anywhere else you can think of. The only matter is cost, and if you stop buying stupid hulking machines (and the maintenance contracts, let’s not forget those!), you can hire and train a lot more people.
The truly sad thing is that you are too ignorant to know that you’re a bootlicker.
Richard Reid was a Muslim convert.
Once again I ask: do you know of any terrorist threat that was not by someone who is a Muslim?
I think this explains why Nan Pelosi wants to keep her Air Force airplane. Squeeze anything on her and she might explode and get silicone everywhere.
Five miles away from the airport, all outbound air passengers and crew shall pass through a screening facility where they will be required to completely disrobe in private changing rooms and then donn a comfortable, discreet, disposable standardized flight gowns of their fashion or religious choice. NO EXCEPTIONS! All baggage will be screened and certified with check baggage forwarded to airport baggage handling. The passengers and their carry-ons will then be transported to the aircraft boarding area.
And once you’ve had your oral exam, your pelvic exam and your rectal exam, you may board the flight!
Follow the money. Who’s benefitting from this harassment in airports (besides the TSA, obviously)? Body-scan manufacturers? Businesses that want a piece of the action in building high-speed railroads? Which lobbyists have Janet Napolitano’s (and Obama’s) ear? So a few million airline jobs disappear, so what? How many political brib… er, contributions have they made lately?
Two names: George Soros and Michael Chertoff. I just followed the money
When I followed the money, two names crop up: Michael Chertoff and George Soros… both have made a killing from the sale of those machines.
We also learned today that George Soros eats unborn fetuses for lunch. It’s true!
- Student, Beck University
I suspect that full-body scanning and intrusive pat downs will continue.
Why?
Because most citizens (including conservatives) are not interested in defending their sovereignty over their own body if it means getting to a destination late. Andrew’s article is a de facto admission of this.
Face it: we are unhappy about it, but as individuals we are not willing to go to the mat over it. Until we do, nothing will change. We don’t want it badly enough. That’s the bottom line.
I don’t exempt myself from this charge. I’m still deciding the extent to which I’m personally willing to go to war over it.
Sadly, this is true. I live in Massachusetts and the rest of my family is in Illinois. If I want to see them, I have to get on a plane. I struggle with this situation every time I fly. I completely resent being treated like a criminal and subjected to all but a body cavity search, but if I want to see my parents, what are my choices? An 18 hour drive? Not likely. And so we continue to compromise ourselves…….
Remaining free is hard.
@Your Sensei #33
Many here have learned to use the search function of the particular browser they use, a unknown name or organization must be explored to follow along, but then you know that. So you either felled to turn sarc on and off or your a lefty troll.
Sensei, Matthem, BC and Dwight aren’t any loonier than the rest of you loonies are.
They’re just more conspicuous ’cause there are fewer of them than there are of you.
If that rationale doesn’t makes sense to you, you just might be sane. Maybe.
That’s the good news. The bad news is that you won’t be for long if you keep reading.
Why did you comply? Why didn’t you assert your 4th Amendment rights?
Help me out here. Has any terrorist attempt been thwarted by the TSA’s ever-more intrusive methods?
Discouraged from flying due to the hassle. Energy resources locked away and energy production throttled by regulatory fiat. Good thing I’m not a conspiracy nut or I’d think reduced mobility of the proles was the whole idea.
I haven’t flown since 9/11 – not because I am afraid of terrorists (I know driving is a lot more dangerous that flying) but because I have a low tolerance for bs. Ignoring what is done to prdinary citizens, subjecting pilots to these invasive procedures exemplifies the insane uselessness of much government activity.
I cannot help but wonder whether Congress Critters and bureaucrats like Napolitano have exempted themselves from so much of what the peasantry is subjected to. (Yeah, I know, passengers on private jets are probably exempt, but surely Congress Critters andhigh-ranking bureaucrats can’t all travel that way.) So do Congress critters get a formal or an informal exemption from this nonsense? I’d be prepared to bet they do. After all, when one of rulers in Congress got upset because a guard did not recognize her and subjected her to the inspection intended for peasants, we heard all about it. The lack of complaints from our rulers strongly suggests they are avoiding security.
John Boehner says he flies commercial, and will continue to fly commercial. How many times has he, and his staff, been screened and groped?
When is Janet going to show us how harmless this all is, maybe she should get the full monty on Fox News, she should show by example and stand before a peeking tom machine so that everyone can see her fat business. All these political type, most are liars and cheats, they perfect ones to get shook down every time they fly instead of going through the VIP line. When Pelosi goes through one, maybe I’ll consider it.
Because there isn’t enough eye-bleach to remove the foul picture?
The Israelis have the best system of security for air travel. They actually look for suspicious people . Such as outhouse crazy Mohammedans . Imagine that . Ron Jeremy pushes those wang expansion vitamins on late night cable infomercials . Pig skin is good , as diety X is too beggardly to cleanse his people of it’s filth .
There is a simple way to end this nonsence, It will inconvience some of us but will end this very quickly. All of us that travel in the Air pick a week that NO one gets on a plane the Airlines might be strong enough to tell the FEDS STOP, can you imagine not one person gets on a plane for a week what would that do to their bottom line, Bummer Obama will come to their rescue with OUR money to help them out if that happens we’ll do it again and again.
Let’s take a train it takes longer but you can actually do work they’ll have to add Wi-FI to the trains
Andrew,
I am a colon cancer survivor myself so I’m not looking forward to my next (and last) flight. I made a promise to the wife to fly before all this crap came along so I’m kind of stuck. Now at least I know that either way (images or pat down) I’m in for a rough time.
Boy I miss the Constitution…
Is your wife not willing to reconsider based on the information available? My husband is just recovering from complete hip replacement surgery. I certainly would not expect him to fulfill some travel plan “just because he promised me” if it were going to expose him to potential pain, discomfort or harm. Sir, you are not “stuck.” You are indecisive about taking a stand for your own wellbeing. Please don’t take that flight.
Emma,
In 99% of cases I’d be with you but this has to do with seeing a new grandchild… that is about the only thing that will get me on a plane
This is payback guys. Ever hear stories of people pulled over for “driving while Black”? Well now you are going to see what that feels like. Welcome to “Flying While White.” Payback is a ….
Don’t be stupid, I am neither white nor black, I was body-scanned.
The scanner didn’t work, they shut it down after a couple of tries.
I bet the scanners will be discontinued. The civil liberty activists would believe it was stopped by their protests. The fact is the scanners don’t work. The scanners never worked but installed in hundreds of airports as a payback from our politicians to their “contributors”. In the old days we had hundred dollars toilet seats, now we have million dollars scanning boxes. The politicians and the connected are getting awfully greedy.
A reminder of why the scanners are installed: to combat potential undie-bombers. But remember the ubdie-bomber’s dad personally went to a US embassy to warn about his son? The undie-bomber’s name was in various govt data bases, yet he was issued visa, and allowed to fly. There might not be a conspiracy, but the politicians surely able to use the incident to enrich themselves and their sugar daddies.
I was body-scanned a couple of weeks ago on my way to Maui. I was standing in the booth with my hands up in the surrendering position. They beeped, then radioed someone to see if the image took. It didn’t, it didn’t for those ahead of me either. They shut down the damn thing after me.
Are you all aware that CAIR (Congress of American Islamic Relations) has demanded that all Muslims (especially females wearing burkhas or even just headscarves) be exempted from both scanning AND patdowns — and that Napolitano has promised this will be given serious consideration? Not turned them down out of hand, not reminded them that all of this insane security theater is their fault 100% to begin with … she actually said she’d consider letting them all on planes without any searches at all? And before you doubt me, go to CAIR’s website and check out the triumphalism. They know they have this one in the bag.
So let’s all wear hijabs(sp?) and breaze on through…
Leftist fascism and Pandora’s box.
This seems to have very little to do with airport security and more to do with a “teachable” moment in the leftist fascism classroom.
The New Party formerly known as Democrats, want you to “feel” the invasion of privacy, the intrusion, the helplessness, powerlessness, sense of frustration, anger….victimhood…at the hands of the state…and in the name of “law enforcement”, “homeland security”, “border crossing”.
Get it? This is all about “how would you feel if this was done to you”, a sort of moral equivalency exam.
It serves little or no other purpose. It is the leftists in power, exercising that power, in your face. As well as other parts of your anatomy.
They may not be able to “kill some cracker babies”, but they sure can grope a few, right in front of mommy and daddy. They can take naked pictures of you and keep them. They can pinch and squeeze and fondle.
And, you can’t do a damn thing about it…except stay home.
You see, they don’t just want your money, they want your dignity. They want your pride. They want to crush your spirit. Browbeat you into submission. They have their hands in your pockets, but they are not satisfied with just jingling change.
Allow the leftists to seize power and they will call you stupid to your face. Tell them you don’t like their policies and they will scoff at you and tell you that you are too thick to understand. Vote them out and they will circumvent your rules.
They used to hide in the shadows. No longer. They are in your face.
And, you can’t stop them. They own the media. They own Hollywood. They own academia. And with all that…they still can’t get their message through your heads. Maybe grabbing your junk will get the message through to you.
You don’t have a representative self-governance, you are being ruled.
Live with that.
Well said.
You see, they don’t just want your money, they want your dignity. They want your pride. They want to crush your spirit. Browbeat you into submission.
At the end of the day, it’s all about power. The power to harm others without consequence. The power to dictate the terms of existence to everyone else. It was the dominant theme of Orwell’s 1984. Orwell (Eric Blair) knew this type all too well.
It’s the road to to the subjugation – and eventual extermination of that which makes us human. The venerable Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn lived and wrote about precisely that.
This is what makes these monsters – the monsters who put these procedures in place, that is – so profoundly evil. So you are correct – it is our inner freedom that they wish to destroy. That they must destroy in order to achieve their ends.
There is only one way this can end.
Marilyn Manson’s latest hit – “We’re All Stars Now In The Grope Show”
Not too long ago I read an interview with a retired security chief from El Al.
They do not strip, pat-down or otherwise molest travelers. They do, however profile. Not so much racially, but by travel patterns.
Terrorists, drug dealers, and other criminals do not travel the same way as tourists and those traveling on business.
They have a computer record of origin, destination, duration of stay, anything out of the ordinary and they pull that person out of line for some questioning.
And don’t tell me it’s racist either, they’ve caught drug dealers and folks smuggling contraband with these techniques of different racial backgrounds.
El Al security is more efficient without harassing innocent people. Let’s insist we adopt their techniques and scrap the peep-’n-grope.
This is one reason why, at present, I choose not to visit the US for any reason. The “Security” procedures are ridiculously over egged, deliberately intimidating and, frankly, offensive. They were bad enough on my last visit four years ago, now they seem to be completely out of control.
I have travelled to some really dangerous parts of the world and the US is the only place I have so far felt threatened by the airport security staff. As someone else has remarked here, the Israeli security is much less intrusive and far more effective – primarily because they don’t try to pretend that everyone is a potential terrorist.
THIS IS RIDICULOUS, THE TERRORIST ALL ONE RELIGION AND RACIAL PROFILE. WHY NOT JUST PROFILE THOSE, INSTEAD OF ALL AMERICANS. STOP THE BEING SO STUPID AND PROFILE LIKE ENGLAND AND ISREAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree. TSA needs to profile the ones committing the terrorist acts. How many terrorists has the TSA caught in the USA to date? All the screening and pat downs should be done on people flying INTO the USA from foreign airports.
I am 80 years old, a Korean vet. I went through the “x-ray” machine at Charlotte, N.C. just the other day. I had 1 carry on bag that contained only clothing. I was told I had not passed the screening and was instructed to stand still at another place to wait for an agent to interview me. Finally a uniformed thug arrived. I asked why I had been detained. His response-”If you don’t follow my instructions, you will be subjected to a full body search.” As he did’nt explain what this threat meant, I kept my mouth shut. He swabbed my hands and tested them at some machine, and finally released me.
One woman described how the TSA agent put her hand down the back of her pants, inside her panties, and then pushed her fingers forward to the woman’s vaginal area and pushed up. The agent then repeated the process from the front.
Question: Apart from the thrill the lesbo TSA agent got, was the next female passenger given the same “treatment” with the same pair of gloves? Herpes anyone?
Change gloves? the Gloves are to protect them, not us…
If they gave a hoot about our safety, they would profile
Wow…I discovered a much better way to intrude into people’s lives almost 10 years ago. It’s called the BOSS chair…BOSS for Body Orifice Security Scanner. Check it out on Google. This will fix everybody’s issues and really cover down on TSA security issues. Now you can’t get anything on the plane, in any crack, tunnel, shoe, panty, bra…you name it.
Did you ever think that if you left your earring at home they wouldn’t have thought you were a porn star.
I am a physician.
If I were to make a “Ron Jeremy” or similar statement prior to undertaking an exam on a patient I would expect to lose my license and become a defendant in a lawsuit.
If you were my patient, I’d be inquiring after your mental and physical well-being following your search. If I found evidence of harm, I’d detail my findings and suggest you contact an attorney.
There’s a boundary between what might be termed a “reasonable” search and a search causing intentional and potentially long-lasting distress to a cancer survivor (or a rape victim or a child.) Apparently the TSA feels this is an insignificant issue. They need to learn through experience that certain lines can’t be crossed without consequences.
Perhaps a few civil suits would be illustrative.
The hilarity in all of this is that Muslims are now demanding special treatment or exemption from being groped because they find it offensive to their religious beliefs! Let’s see….weren’t Muslim fanatics the ones who have blown up airplanes and committed acts of terror against innocent civilians? I think Presbyterians, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Jews and members of any other legitimate religious group should also apply for exemptions from the grabby feely inspection from our government overlords who seem to delight in running roughshod over our rights. Is there no limit to their intrusion into our personal lives?
Systemwide refusal. Maybe then, we’ll profile Muslim men, ages 12 to 60, and a number of muslim women. Separate line, separate gate, earlier arrival at point of departure to comply with screening. Leave the rest of us alone to weed out what the TSA misses, like that guy who got fired at NPR, Juan Williams. Just a suggestion, Muslim garb means you go Greyhound…..
Relax and enjoy it Andrew. You’re being shown your place in the new world order. You’ll do as you’re told, when you are told, and like it. As Bruno Napalitano said “…everyone has a role to play.” So you’d better learn yours.
And for those who say “It’s for our own safety”, yeah…so how about the ‘full strip search’ and be REALLY SAFE!
Someone with common sense needs to contact El Al and see how they do passenger screening. Faster, easier, cheaper…..and they haven’t had a shoe or diaper bomber. How many times have we read of ‘evacuated airports’? Again, contact the Israeli’s. They deal with the item, not the whole freaking airport.
This entire administration and the clowns running it NEED TO GO!
I am close to a person who is a sexual abuse survivor. He also suffers from PTSD, and I have seen him melt down in a public place during a bad episode. I guess flying is out of the question for him now. If he reacted badly to being groped by some idiot, he’d probably wind up in jail. Whatever happened to our Constitution? We have to stand up and refuse to submit to this dehumanizing treatment. I stopped flying a while ago because I refuse to submit to it.
I would second #62 above. The lawsuits are starting to be filed.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/tsa-hit-with-lawsuits-as-revolt-explodes.html
and at least some cops in Las Vegas are charging TSA agents with sexual assault [they groped Penn Gillette of Penn & Teller], and the DA of San Mateo County has announced that if TSA agents grope [his jurisdiction covers SFO] they WILL be charged with felony sexual assault if there is skin to skin contact and misdemeanor charges if it is over clothes and inappropriate.
And may I offer an interesting question to ask as part of the discovery process in any suit? There are reports that TSA will hire convicted felons so long as they are off parole. It would be interesting if the court ordered the TSA to produce lists of TSA agents at the airport concerned, and the results of a criminal background check for each. How many convicted sex offenders are fondling men, women, and children?
How much would a jury like that?
Subotai Bahadur
Council on American-Islamic Relations: “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.” – Omar Ahmad (CAIR co-founder).
Addressing a youth session at the 1999 Islamic Association for Palestine’s annual convention in Chicago, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) founder Omar Ahmad praised suicide bombers who “kill themselves for Islam,”
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52184
Health-destroying, cancer-causing, degrading naked body scanners or dirty sexual assaults needed for airport security? A LIE FROM the PIT of HELL.
Global Jihad advances greatly, not because of cruel Islamo Fascists, but because of weak, pro-Islam, Western enabler leaders. U.S. Airport Security is Deliberately and Shockingly DESTROYED for U.S. top favorite, ISLAM:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com
Controversial Muslim group
gets VIP airport security tour
Feds show CAIR latest screening steps,
sensitive counterterrorism procedures
August 18, 2006
The Department of Homeland Security
took a Muslim group with known past ties to terror organizations on a VIP tour of security operations at the nation’s busiest airport at the same time British authorities were working to break up a plot to blow up U.S. airlines.
On June 21, a senior DHS official from Washington personally guided Muslim officials from the Council on American-Islamic Relations on a behind-the-scenes tour of Customs screening operations at O’Hare International Airport in response to CAIR complaints that Muslim travelers were being unfairly delayed as they entered the U.S. from abroad.
CAIR is a spin-off of the Islamic Association for Palestine, identified by two former FBI counterterrorism chiefs as a “front group” for the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas.
Several CAIR leaders have been convicted on terror-related charges.
During the airport tour, CAIR was taken on a walk through the point-of-entry, Customs stations, secondary screening and interview rooms. In addition, U.S. Customs and Border Patrol agents were asked to describe for CAIR representatives various features of the high-risk passenger lookout system.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51573
’“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”
—Former Algerian President Houari Boumedienne’s prophetic warning to Europe in a speech at the U.N. In 1974.
In Sweden, many Muslim youth wear a t-shirt proclaiming: “2030-then we take over”
Sick, depraved and perverted.
U.S. government message to Americans and visiting tourists:
We own your bodies; and as the owners of your bodies, we have the right to expose your naked bodies; give you massive amounts of radiation, give you cancers and destroy your health. If you refuse our humiliating, degrading, health destroying body scanners, we will sexually assault you.
This has NOTHING to do with security. It’s all about power and control and destroying our health, basic human rights and our freedom. Ruling elites know the body scanners are useless:
“Full-body scanners are waste of money, Israeli expert says
A leading Israeli airport security expert says the Canadian government has wasted millions of dollars to install “useless” imaging machines at airports across the country.
“I don’t know why everybody is running to buy these expensive and useless machines. I can overcome the body scanners with enough explosives to bring down a Boeing 747,” Rafi Sela told parliamentarians probing the state of aviation safety in Canada.”
http://www.vancouversun.com/travel/Full+body+scanners+waste+money+Israeli+expert+says/2941610/story.html
What are we being protected from here? Cockpit doors are now secured making it highly unlikely that a terrorist can take over a plane and causing another 9/11 like attack. So the greatest risk is a bomb going off on a plane killing a few hundred people. Obviously that would be a terrible thing, however, a terrorist intent on blowing up lots of people wouldn’t need to get on the plane. They could easily cause just as much fear and damage by blowing themselves up IN the airport. Life is full of riskier things than terrorism. I’m not willing to give up my freedom and dignity for a dog and pony show.
“Cockpit doors are now secured making it highly unlikely that a terrorist can take over a plane and causing another 9/11 like attack.”
Heck, they body-search pilots too. How do you beat that?
I thought pilots were able to have guns in the cockpit now? How do they get them past security?
they put the gun in a box ..lock it (pilot keeps the key) then hand it to the security agent who gives it back to the pilot on the other side of the check point.
feel any safer now ?
A 9/11 style hijacking will never work again. Before 9/11, the prevailing wisdom was to go along with a hijacking because the hijackers would typically have demands they wanted met. It was seen as better to just wait and let them get what they wanted instead of fighting them and risk getting killed. Since 9/11, and especially because of the example set by Flight 93, no American will ever let a plane be hijacked again.
So yes, the greatest threat now seems to be bombs on board. Of course, our security has failed to catch these people before boarding, so we are lucky their attempts failed…
There is a startling absence of muslims complaining about being groped . Could it be that the TSA is not selecting them out of fear or orders from above?
These new “stroke and grope” techniques being implemented by the TSA have nothing to do with security and everything to do with power. The TSA has suddenly discovered that they have alot of power over your average American citizen, and that they can make Mr. or Mz. Traveler sing and dance to their tune any time they want. Muslims don’t seem to be “groped and grabbed” yet it was Muslims, terrorists to be sure but still Muslims, who started this whole uber security thing to begin with. Hello? Does anyone remember 9-11? It wasn’t your gray haired granny who flew planes into the WTC, it was Muslim terrorists. I just wonder if Aunt Nasty Pelosi will be “grabbed and groped” when she is forced to fly commercial next year.
Dodge? That isn’t a Jewish name.
what difference would it be if it was ??
that is pretty low form of debate. in fact it is not discussion at all it is an ignorant attempt demonize.
I’m going to try this at the night club tonight. I’m going to grope a few chicks, then when they object, I’m going to tell them I’m a volunteer with the TSA. And the Night Club hired me for Security.
Let’s see how that…..flies.
It is only a matter of time before the same procedures are applied to buses and trains and subways. This is not about air travel. This is about all travel. And it certainly is not about terrorists. If it were, they would be looking for terrorists. They are not looking for terrorists~~they’re trying to make us behave.
Someone mentioned earlier today on some radio program that one of the earmarks of totalitarian regimes over the centuries has been the restrictions placed on internal travel within a nation. That’s where we’re headed.
Lightbulbs. Health insurance. Illegals going to our universities on in-state tuition rates. Electric cars nobody wants. Being arrested at the airport because you won’t let them complete their procedures. Southern Arizona signs that warn citizens to stay away because noncitizens with guns have taken over. Sheriffs in Arizona who are warned by the feds to stop doing their jobs.
This theatre is getting very crowded and overheated….and I smell smoke. We are all going to yell “FIRE!” and we’re not going to quit until the unAmericans who are trampling our constitution and our rights are removed from office, put on trial and sent to prison.
This is NOT about TSA. TSA is just the latest example of the takeover from within (kind of like a cancer within the nation, now that I think of it). It’s from within. It is “us.” But it’s going to kill us, and it had better be cut out before it has all the power and it’s too late.
I agree. these are communists in currently in power, and they are doing what communists do. they are doing this to limit FREE movement of free citizens, just like they have in every other communist/fascist/dictatorship.
I blogged it at:
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2010/11/blow-up.html
About a month ago, I experienced first hand at the Albuquerque Airport how rude the TSA employees can be. If you dare to ask them any question that even hints that you don’t like what they’re doing, they make darn sure that by the time you walk away that you know who’s boss. They don’t take anything off anybody and take great delight in the knowledge that they can stop you from catching your flight if you cross them. They make you wait a lengthy period of time for a supervisor and there is nothing you can say or do to assert any right whatsoever to be treated like a human being.
They as much as say out loud: “We’re trying to stop terrorists so we can be rude, we can waste your time, we can humiliate you or do anything we please and if you don’t cooperate fully in every last thing we demand we can hold you for arrest, knowing that our side of the story is the only side that will be considered.”
Cavity searches will be next because how on earth do they “pat you” for something shoved up your anus or vagina?
And, of course, the very people we should be profiling will be able to get out of all of this nonsense scott free because of their “religious beliefs” (screw the nuns).
This is beyond ridiculous.
Mr.Dodge’s experience was simply unforgivable, as were those the other commenters described. I hope that you have consulted your physicians, preparatory to legal action.
This charade is not about catching terrorists.
What does need physical inspection, no exception, is all cargo on passenger flights, provided by the airlines’ own private, properly trained, properly screened inspectors. Augment this with Israeli-type profiling for the human cargo, again done by the airlines’ own staff. This way the truly interested parties (airlines and their clients) will have a better level of protection.
Ain’t flying no mo till dey gets dis sheet better. Fug em, I drive my car, burn lots of gas, have reel gode tim.
Andrew, I really feel for you and I have to say reading your experience ( and the comments above) is giving me GREAT pause. Travelling is kind of a way of life for me.I’m in an international law lawyer, and do spend heaps of time in flights and hotels. Now, I am quite stumped by this new TSA development ( I just found out today about it!) because while I have spent quite a lot of time in the US in the pst 2 years, this new security measure is making me reconsider my plans for the year to come. I am currently in LA, and I am flying to NY in exactly 2 weeks ( I’ve arrived from overseas in Oct.20, and wasn’t subjected to anything upon arrival except a “Welcome back, how long are you sting this time? by the custom officer ) and I do not know how I am going to react to this padding or scanning. Does this concern all passengers including on domestic flights? I need to investigate.
I travel the world and I have to say the US has by far the worst so called “security measures” ( sorry fellow american readers but I’ve spent enough time in foreign airports to tell you not only all these measure are more of a waste of time creating useless delays than actually securing the country) and to be honest from a foreign point of view, when I see what americans do accept at airports, it actually makes me wonder how it is possible in a country where you can sue practically anyone on dubious grounds, there aren’t much more lawsuits about what goes on in your airports.
How is it that people actually accept this new form of rape without protesting ? ( and yes, it is rape )
In the name of fear of terrorism ? I simply can’t believe it.
As a lawyer, I don’t recall signing a waiver of my liberties upon buying a flight ticket ! As a woman, being groped by an unknown person is an assault, specially if I have no choice in the matter.
I just think this is the latest stunt to break the camel’s back. Paasengers are suffering, Airlines will suffers, Businesses will suffer and yet we will hear of another terror threat soon, then what will the goverment do? have a marshall behind every passenger from the moment they start packing to the moment they are in the plane ?
To the people who say you would have been sripped searched in Israel, I can tell, “no way” you would have gone through without a hitch, maybe profiled, but that’s it, and that semi sexua banter wouldn’t have happened either. Israelis are not the only ones profiling or simply using hand scans when suspicious of dubious characters, and let most people go about their business.
In the last 3 months I was on 4 different continents, and went through maybe 12 or 13 different airports in different countries, not once was I subjected to hands on probing or padding or whatever, and these are countries used to terrorism threats and bombings, like Spain, France, thailand or Indonesia, and even in Australia, they will not touch your body, a lady might use a scan paddle but that will be as far as it goes ! So to the ones saying “let us probe everyone or they can stay out” I say, think about the cost to this country if business people like myself simply stopped coming on the account of such disruption, you might think a few business closing doors is bad, but if foreign corporations and businesses simply stopped sending their employees here and therefore turned their business elsewhere, you might think about your comments twice.
It makes me wonder why americans are so afraid they would accept anything ( and yes, you are there) short of murder for the supposed protection the federal government offers?
As a foreigner, who happens to love this country and happenes to be in and out of it every 2 months or so, I am definitely reconsidering my future travel arrangements for the coming year due to this new development. What I won’t allow my own government to do, I certainly won’t accept from TSA employees, no matter what the motives are.
If the US federal government wanted to reduce passengers, well, congratulations, they found the right way to do it, but it will have financial consequences it may not have foreseen.
…. America has by far the worst so called security measures ….
Sure, if “security” was the point of the exercise.
But it’s not. Taking and exercising absolute Gangster Government power over an ever increasing percentage of us is.
With the secondary “benefit” of providing “employment” for the scores of thousands of otherwise deservedly unemployed savants that take the TSA’s dole.
This is well stated and I echo those sentiments. At least last year when I visited the USA I was not subjected to any of this crap… except for taking off my shoes.
When it comes to the shoes I do believe it is unnecessary. Richard Reid was caught. The technique proved to be a bit of a “bomb” if you know what I mean….
Why are they only getting this unhinged a decade after 9/11? Why only now? Most of the threats seem to be originating elsewhere.
Are Matthew, Robin and Mr. Lucky talking in code? Like dyslexia perhaps?
Just returned from California where my wife went through the circular X ray and after she went through a woman felt around her breasts. Did I tell you she is blond with blue eyes. To top that off the TSA dud looking at ID at the front of the line was handed pieces of folded up papers by several latino looking gentleman. These had no photo that I could see from my vantage point a few feet away. He looked at them and looked at their boarding pass and let them through. HUH! WHAT!
Might I recommend wearing a shirt that tells TSA “I will not submit.”
In Arabic.
http://www.conalscorner.com/cafepress/product/239558336
Airplanes take me to lots of interesting, faraway places. Flying is cool!
Those who sacrifice freedom for security, will have neither freedom nor security.
SHOCKING AIRPORT VIDEO
Send this to everyone you know. This video is absolutely shocking. It’s frightening. How can peaceful, patriotic, America-loving, law-abiding citizens protect themselves from the government? Unless this is stopped now, even worse terror will be perpetrated against us by our own government. Who will protect us from the government?
The TSA is out of control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhkQoiaf7Uc&feature=player_embedded
Don’t you think getting inspected like an animal is patriotic? Perhaps we could offer a urine sample at the same time.
OMG! I never considered my abundance of scars! I raced dirtbikes in our SoCal deserts for 20+ years off and on. An abundance of biking related scars, had ligament graft in a knee, and more.
Back in ’91 my doc sent me to hospital for some exam work, they found an abscess on my pancreas to correct, and tried to, after 2.5 months in comma they decided to do one more ‘exploratory’ on my gut, found problem, and when released from Holy Cross Hospital I was their longest surviving comma patient. It was some rather serious and critical stuff. Should have been initially a simple procedure, but not when doctor was imbibing.
These days, without shirt, looks like my belly has been filleted ’3 ways from Sunday’.
More than sure I’d grab TSA interest real quick over that.
And as I am NOT a patient person with pure IDIOTS (TSA), if I had travel plans I’d definitely consider scrapping them.
But what is Obama/Napolitano really up to with this crap? Are they trying to flatly put airlines out of business so they can do a Fed takeover like they did with GM and ‘save them’ (at taxpayers expense)?
Thanksgiving, right around the corner now, is the biggest traveled holiday we have, and all of a sudden TSA wants to do 100% Strip/Gropes, maybe both, unless you’re a CongressCritter.
TSA = Terrorist Support Agency
I feel sorry for normal employees, because people in charge of this agency have ulterior motives for what we now see.
I want to see on cable TV Obama and Napolitano go thru a TSA Strip/Grope and then tell us how pleasant is was, and that it’s proper thing for them to do. (though I’d probably be afraid to look as Janet goes thru this)
1. I actually beat the TSA at their own game. It’s easy,
First of all I don’t wear underwear and haven’t for years. So when I’m told I have to go for an “instrusive” inspection, I very loudly proclaim this fact and advise the inspector to wear plastic gloves, especially since I’ve just recently “gone to the bathroom”.
If they don’t, God knows what their hands are going to look like when they retract their hands from my private parts. I’ve actually had inspectors recoil in utter disgust as I smile sweetly at them, especially when I advise them that I think I have some kind of yeast infection “down there”.
2. I also sweat a lot in my feet. That means when I take my shoes off, this horrible bacteria-laden stench from my shoes quickly fills the room. I put them on the “tray” with a sweet smile as the TSA personnel almost gag.
Bottom line….look as dirty as possible and try to stink. You’ll get thru the line real quick. It’s worked fom me every time.
By advised that the same people who are groping you at the airport will soon be looking after your medical care. Good luck!
Who DOESN’T have a TSA nightmare? A year ago, My 4-month old grandson (Yes, four months old), along with my two-year-old granddaughter and their mother were ALL detained at the airport because they were on a “terrorist watch list” — all three, not just my beautiful daughter. The agent detaining them was on the phone a long time, trying to convince his superiors that two of the detainees were infants, but they didn’t listen to him. This is absolute, unconstitutional tyranny! How much more do we have to put up with? Agents breaking into our houses and arresting us in the middle of the night to “keep the terrorists off balance”? We HAVEN’T EVEN IDENTIFIED THE ENEMY in our war on “terrorism”, and the American people are supposed to stand by while the government treats THE AMERICAN PEOPLE — infants, grandchildren, US Senators and airline pilots — as the mysterious “unseen enemy”. This country is led by absolute imbeciles, who can’t tell a 4-month-old baby from a terrorist. I am absolutely disgusted with my President and my government.
I have served this country in both Iraq and Afghanistan for totalying almost 5 years since the 9/11 attacks both as a US Army Solder, and government contractor because I believed in the cause. I was intenting to have my wife fly home through PDX for the holidays since I am currently in Afghanistan. I am now departing this deployment ahead of schedule and have cancelled the purchased ticket because i refuse to support this countries morose activities. Its getting rediculous. I will not have my loved ones fly with this kind of demoralizing activity going on. I refuse scanners and body searches for me and my family. I am cancelling this ticket and will fly no longer from this point on. We will drive!
Yes, Yes. TSA is a drag. And yes all of us who have traveled extensively at home and abroad (including the ever so sophisticated BWI-PWM run) have to put up with a lot of crap. Air travel sucked before and after 9/11. So, let’s stop whining.
PS Israel has been on the US payroll for ages. They get $4-6 billion gratis from the US with a population of 4 million people in their little strip of existence. They should defer to Obama or whomever the Pres. happens to be.
That is what he gets for being such a stupid sheeple and getting into the x-ray machine in the first place.
Obviously, the woman who refused the sexual assault and x-ray was smarter than him. Wouldn’t it be nice if the majority of people in this country were familiar with the Constitution. You know, people like the president and legislators.
So now the airlines are a tiny bit safer, but the determined terrorists will move on to “softer” targets, like Times Square, Xmas tree lighting ceremonies and cargo bombs.
Next attack – shopping centers, schools, cruise ships, sports events, subways, tunnels, buses, airport security lines to name but a few.
We cannot possibly catch every attempt by screening, but we can humiliate millions of people and help bankrupt already hurting commercial aviation companies.
Fire 25,000 TSA clerks, dump the scanners and pat-downs, bring in dogs, and give the saved money to the FBI & CIA, who can actually catch terrorists (maybe).
My family and I won’t fly until this travesty is lifted.
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And when the next would be bomber has a device in a body cavity will we have to submit to a body cavity search? I will not subject myself nor my family to needless radiation exposure nor TSA molestation. I will not be flying until the TSA changes these procedures.
“They say the risk is minimal, but statistically someone is going to get skin cancer from these X-rays,” Dr Michael Love, who runs an X-ray lab at the department of biophysics and biophysical chemistry at Johns Hopkins University school of medicine, told AFP.”No exposure to X-ray is considered beneficial. We know X-rays are hazardous but we have a situation at the airports where people are so eager to fly that they will risk their lives in this manner,” he said
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/body-scanners-dangerous-scientists
http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/20/aol-investigation-no-proof-tsa-scanners-are-safe/
You know our government told us that cigarettes were good for us. Asbestos wont hurt you. Lead pant is the best pant there is. Agent orange saves lives. The underwear bomber was for real. There are some BAD people out there that want to hurt us. WE need to walk thought then Scanners. It’s just a little radiation. Scanners don’t cause Cancer.
Just saying that sounds like a lot of them Weapons Of Mass Destruction to me.
The American Cancer Society says Radiation has a vary small but real effect, and the fact that radiation exposure from all sources can add up over one’s lifetime, imaging tests that use radiation should only be done for a good reason
TSA workers stand next to the machine. They don’t know better they get as much radiation as you do. BUT they stand there all day long. Day after day It’s not about IF they are going to get Cancer but when. As for me I just don’t need no more Radiation