Take note that this is further evidence of my point re: proglodytes’ tendency to appeal to authority and argue based on emotion/assertions. Also note that he still fails to prove that 0bama is NOT following in the footsteps of Hoover’s and FDR’s failed policies. Plus, look how invested he is in his manichean, binary view of politics. Inconceivable, isn’t it, that someone can criticize FDR and Messiah-Boy and simultaneously be disgusted by Republicans’ fiscal indiscipline (which I am). Hence, the rambling about the GOP towards the end is sheer stupidity. Looks like David’s enamored of Negro-Jeebus because his administration promises to make the same mistakes as the GOP even faster, and at a greater order of magnitude.

“”[W]e might have done nothing. That would have been utter ruin. Instead we met the situation with proposals to private business and to Congress of the most gigantic program of economic defense and counterattack ever evolved in the history of the Republic. We put it into action. . . . We determined that we would not follow the advice of the bitter-end liquidationists and see the whole body of debtors of the United States brought to bankruptcy and the savings of our people brought to destruction.”

FDR? Truman? Bzzzt-wrong! Herbert Hoover, following the failure of his 0bama-esque attempts to stimulate the economy in 1932. Take note, boys & girls – this is an example of supporting your assertions with historical quotes, rather than using them to appeal to authority.

If I were the (Democrat) CEO of Citi, I’d be happy with the Congressional _Democrat passed_ TARP, and _All Democrat_ passed “Stimulus” too. The sticky fingered slime in the Democrat party used 45 billion bucks appropriated from all those workers you claim to care about, guaranteed another 301 billion in Citi’s bad paper, and today started talking about taking _40_ percent or so ownership of Citi in trade for all that.

Great math, morons. Citi’s market cap at the bell today was all of ten billion. 45 billion plus 301 billion in guarantees is a bargain for a share worth 4 billion, But what the hey, it wasn’t their money they were throwing at their merchantilist bedmates. And fools who believe the Dumbocrat party line will defend this larceny, then pinch off the usual brain-dead “Peace” loaf to impress everybody with how ’60′s cool they are.

Imbecile.

Nice. David fails to address any of the points about Hoover, whines about revisionism, smears people as “avowed partisans” lacking in intelligence, and then lectures us peasants on civility.

Typical. I hadn’t even responded to your post yet, and you claim I failed! Read the quote below from President Truman for a little insight into what the Depression looked like to those who lived it.

PRESIDENT TRUMAN’s SPEECH of 1948, sums up the Great Depression and its aftermath quite nicely—

“….You have a choice between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. Within the memory of most of us here, a clear record has been written that shows how much difference that choice can make. The Republicans wrote part of their record from 1921 to 1933. They led the country to depression, poverty, and despair. It is easy to forget what the black days of the depression were like. Let us recall a few, just a few of the bitter facts.

In 1932, after 12 years of Republican bungling, more than 12 million men and women were unemployed. In 1932 the average worker in manufacturing industries was making 45 cents an hour – if he was lucky enough to have a job…. The working men and women in this country could not do much to help themselves, because the strength of their unions had been broken by the reactionary labor policies of the Republican administration.

The Republican bubble burst in 1929, and when it burst: There was no minimum wage to cushion the blow. There was no unemployment compensation to carry the working man’s family along. There was no work relief program to help people through the crisis. But the party of privilege was ready to carry big business through the crisis. It created the Reconstruction Finance Corporation for that purpose. The banks, the railways, the insurance companies – they got relief, but not the American people. For the unemployed, it was Hoovervilles and soup kitchens. Veterans were encouraged to go into business for themselves – selling apples. That is the Republican record.

[T]he Democratic Party began to build prosperity for business, labor, and agriculture. We wrote into law the right of the working men and women to organize in unions of their own choice, and to bargain collectively. We put a floor under wages. We outlawed child labor. We created a great insurance system to protect working men and women against the hazards of unemployment and old age. We wrote into law a system of price supports for farm products, so that the bottom would not drop from under the farmer’s income the way it did in the 1920′s. We put a curb on Wall Street speculation, and stopped the money changers from gambling with people’s savings.

With these reforms and many others, the Democratic Party brought the country to the greatest period of prosperity ever known in the history of the world…. And business hasn’t suffered too much under the New Deal! Corporations had a loss of $4 billion in 1932. But in 1947 they had a profit of $17 billion, after taxes. These same corporations – these same corporations now claim the Democrats are hostile to business. If I were in their shoes, I would want some more of that kind of hostility….”

Really, the record of the GOP is hard to argue with. If you favor tax cuts, unemployment, poverty, recession and depression, the GOP is your party.

Peace.

DS

I have no time to read all of the comments, I must work to pay for my lazy comrades.

One question: Do the people like Steve P and David S really believe what they are saying? If so, wow, stupidity is alive and well!

Once again, a personal attack instead of a rebuttal. You’d do yourself and your comrades a favor if you’d keep such inane thoughts to yourself.

Peace.

DS

And Ms. Attitude, quite a few of the David’s out there know exactly what they are doing. Remember that to Marxists, economic failure is a feature, not a bug. In country after country they have manufactured crises, destroyed the middle class, and then posed as “saviors” with their statist solutions.

One question: Do the people like Steve P and David S really believe what they are saying? If so, wow, stupidity is alive and well!

…your numbers are from where? For instance, if I create a table stating that FDR created no jobs( not the point, and he probably created some jobs, but every Prof I had tended to belittle FDR’s efforts and congratulated the beginning of the war), and that Reagan created 100% full employment( no one ever has)and post it on line, that makes the info true?

Perhaps you have not heard of the http://www.stats.bls.gov” rel=”nofollow”>Bureau of Labor Statistics? They are the authoritative source for employment data. You can create your own table full of lies, but the BLS backs up the data I referenced.

I want lots of data on these figures, like who crunched these numbers? What was the author trying to prove? Who is behind this report? Where are the numbers from?

Try visiting the site I linked to. Ben Waggoner created these charts straight from the BLS data. He is trying to prove that there is a correlation between the political party of our President and job creation, which is of course undeniable. The US government is the ultimate source of the info. It’s not really complicated.

You are constantly calling everyone liars and uneducated, I can NOT believe that you would dare to post a link that unsupported, but wait, that would mean all these other people are right about you, you’re clueless! lol on the working thing…oh did you check out the links of #172?

I am not constantly calling everyone liars and uneducated. I do call out folks that lie, and I will critique an argument that lacks veracity. If you don’t want to be called a liar, the best solution is to stick to the facts. Most of the people here who don’t agree with me make personal attacks on my intelligence, not realizing that it demonstrates the weakness of their own arguments.

Peace.

DS

PS – I checked out the links. More revisionist history by avowed partisans. Thanks for demonstrating the veracity I have come to expect.