More ‘Reset’ Failure: Did Russian Nuclear Sub Travel Undetected in Gulf?
On August 14, the Washington Free Beacon reported that the U.S. had confirmed “a Russian nuclear-powered attack submarine armed with long-range cruise missiles operated undetected in the Gulf of Mexico for several weeks and its travel in U.S. strategic waters was only confirmed after it left the region.” Back in 2009, just months after Obama took office, the New York Times had reported the appearance of Russian attack subs off the U.S. coast for the first time in more than a decade.
The WFB report was sourced to anonymous “officials who are familiar with reports of the submarine patrol in the Gulf of Mexico,” and they pointed to “incursions into restricted U.S. airspace near Alaska and California in June and July by Russian strategic bombers.” The incursions had also been noted by WFB — when they allegedly occurred — as demonstrating a pattern of increasing Russian aggression. Then, too, the WFB relied on anonymous Pentagon sources.
Republican John Cornyn of the Senate Armed Services Committee was quoted by WFB confirming the sub report:
It’s a confounding situation arising from a lack of leadership in our dealings with Moscow. While the president is touting our supposed “reset” in relations with Russia, Vladimir Putin is actively working against American interests, whether it’s in Syria or here in our own backyard.
Cornyn has been active in opposing Russian support for the genocidal dictatorship in Syria that is one of Russia’s closest allies. However, the only major news organization to carry the WFB report was the Daily Mail, and two days later the Pentagon denied the report. The Moscow Times quoted submarine experts opining that the Russian sub could not have been stealthy enough to enter and remain in the Gulf for an extended period. The MT quoted other sources calling the WFB’s bona fides into question and suggesting the report was political propaganda from a website whose publisher worked on the McCain campaign in 2008.
The WFB stood by its story. The Kremlin refused to comment. The Kremlin’s English-language mouthpiece, Voice of Russia, said Russian military officials were congratulating themselves on a job well done. Then, it said maybe not.
So what do we have here? Is the Obama administration conspiring with the MSM to cover up a damaging series of events that seriously undermine Obama’s foreign policy agenda, or is a rogue conservative website ginning up false reports as the election cycle gets underway to help sink the Democrats’ reelection bid? Was Cornyn commenting based on his own independent knowledge of the events, or did he jump the gun and simply respond to the claims made by WFB? Was WFB lied to by anti-Obama figures within the U.S. military?
Nobody seems to know for sure. But here’s what we do know: On Obama’s watch, a proud KGB spy named Vladimir Putin was successful in pulling the neo-Soviet wool over America’s eyes. He was able to pretend, with Obama’s active assistance, that he had stepped down from power, when in fact he was preparing the way for his return as “president for life” in the manner of a banana republic. And immediately upon returning, that spy has launched a furious legislative crackdown on American values and has pursued a foreign policy that has made it very clear he is America’s foe, not its partner. He has created a repressive society within Russia that has seen the rebirth of both defectors and political prisoners, where even McDonald’s comes under attack and Madonna is branded a “whore” by high-ranking Russian diplomats.
Chess champion Garry Kasparov was arrested on the spot and roughed up when he simply appeared and tried to attend the public trial of the Pussy Riot collective in Moscow. Putin calls Obama a “crude blackmailer,” even though Obama is doing all he can to help. Meanwhile, Putin is almost certainly lining his personal pockets to an obscene extent.
Kremlin apologists have always argued that the saving grace for Russia was the internet. They claimed that the Kremlin would never be able to launch a successful attack on the internet, and it would remain a key bulwark against Russia slipping backwards into the neo-Soviet mire.
But this is precisely what is happening in Putin’s Russia today. Putin has just launched a major new push against the internet, blocking websites he doesn’t like and charging his key internet opponent, Alexei Navalny, with corruption allegations that could send him to prison for a decade. What’s more, we’ve seen the nascent protest movement organized primarily through internet resources fizzle and die out, even as Putin has consolidated his malignant KGB regime.
And we know this: through it all, Barack Obama and Michael McFaul, his ambassador to Russia, have remained silent. They have turned a blind eye to neo-Soviet repression, and they have ignored neo-Soviet aggression. Doggedly focused on their reelection narrative, they have insisted that Russia is doing just fine, a stalwart American partner, because of Obama’s “reset.” They have demanded that U.S. legislation be adopted to reward Russia with trade privileges, and they have demanded that no U.S. legislation confront Russia over its egregious human rights record.
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I don’t think it would be smart for anyone who knew we could detect in this scenario, to bring that fact to the attention of persons not committed to American military supremacy, particularly if its public disclosure seemed a likely expedient for a struggling politician.
“A *submarine* WHERE? Gosh, we had NO idea! None whatsoever!”
Let Russia think what they like.
We DO know that the Radical-in-Chief is joined at the hip with a communist-bent adviser.
We DO know that ‘Uncle Frank’ was a communist spy.
So, you may want to read my blog commentary last week on this tangential subject – ‘Valerie Jarrett’s Communist Leanings & Why it Matters…Serving As Barack Hussein Obama’s Alter Ego…Cementing The Red/Green Alliance’ – http://www.adinakutnicki.com
My blog is rife with commentaries on the above issue, and what it portends if he gets re-elected-heaven forbid!!
That is my thinking also. U505 …
Last I checked Russia is one of the main logistics corridors to our troops in Afghanistan. The Pakis only recently re-allowed truck convoys to transit their territory. Until we secure transit to, or redeploy our troops, advocating for a policy of confrontation with the current Russian regime is detrimental to our interests to say the least. That is common sense, not partisan politics.
And one small point about “Russia’s egregious human rights record.”
Today’s Russia is not a functioning democracy in the Western sense, nor, by any means, is she the vast Stalinist Gulag Archipelago you portray her to be either.
Our friends and allies, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, have some pretty egregious human right records themselves. It doesn’t stop us from doing business with them.
Last I checked Russia is one of the main logistics corridors to our troops in Afghanistan. The Pakis only recently re-allowed truck convoys to transit their territory. Until we secure transit to, or redeploy our troops, advocating for a policy of confrontation with the current Russian regime is detrimental to our interests to say the least. That is common sense, not partisan politics.
And one small point about “Russia’s egregious human rights record.”
Today’s Russia is not a functioning democracy in the Western sense, nor, by any means, is she the vast Stalinist Gulag Archipelago you portray her to be either. The Cold War is over.
Our friends and allies, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, have some pretty egregious human right records themselves. It doesn’t stop us from doing business with them.
My apologies about the double comment
Putin is a communist enemy; Erdogan openly proclaims hatred for America (echoing MB beliefs)and the Saudi Kings are funding efforts at political Wahabbi (Sharia) Jihad from within the USA with the MB; and they’ve done a great job so far …. … all that aside of course; Russia has been aiding Syria with arms and personnel while simultaniously denouncing Syria at the U.N. Achmedimanutjob recently shook hands with the Saudi kings; in tandem with his call for the total annihilation of Israel AND America (thouigh he has to be careful not to expose thge Saudi efforts that run in tandem with his own. Turkey? Erdogan is clearly a follower of Islam along with his buddies Achmedimanutjob, the MB and the Saudi’s … what could possibly go wrong?
Let’s assume that the sub actually was undetected, so what? The main reason it would go undetected is that nobody was looking for it, and there is no reason to be looking for it. The Cold War is over. On the other hand, if we were still on a Cold War footing I can guarantee you it would not have gone undetected. By the way, I think it is safe to assume that our subs are still poking around in Soviet waters from time to time.
“….Madonna is branded a “whore” by high-ranking Russian diplomats.”
That’s it. No more Mr. Nice Guy relations with the Russians. That’s the last straw!
Yes how dare the dirty Ruskies tell the TRUTH.
That is really the truth. Here is one rare reason why Kim should not be a rusophobe (if she really is a conservative).
The education “reforms” and initiatives Obama and Arne Duncan are pushing in the US as Common Core and Race to the Top, and UNESCO has pushed globally, are ultimately grounded in Soviet psychology theories and practices and the work of Lev Vygotsky to create the perfect Socialist mentality via the schools. What I have described previously as an attack on the noetic system. None of this is news to the Russians. They were letting American profs access these materials in the height of the Cold War. They have always seen education as a the perfect weapon against the West.
http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/so-now-common-core-rejects-individual-thinking-to-embrace-soviet-psychology-ecology/ was the story I did about a month ago on our US National Research Council rejecting individual thinking as the basis for what educational reforms should be mandating. Instead we expressly adopted socio-cultural theory as the new basis for American education. Vygotsky and Lenin and John Dewey would all be so pleased at this turn of events. You think the Russians do not know this or its implications?
Finally Obama knows that many of the disappointed Marxists after the Berlin Wall came down and the USSR dissolved believed that the real problem was applying Communism to agrarian non-industrialized countries. These people are receiving TED speaking engagements and medals so there is clearly a maturing belief that the West remains prime targets to try again. Except this time keep nominal rights of private property and markets and use Big Business and Higher Ed and the non-taxed foundations as allies. It will still appear to the naive to be capitalism.
It’s a good plan. But it didn’t arise in the West. And it predated Gorbachev. And there’s no way Putin is unaware of what is happening in the US. He must just be wondering when the termite/noetic predations will have so weakened us that a slight push will do. He also knows what the West has agreed to with the Future Earth Alliance because of UN involvement and China being part of the Belmont Forum.
It’s the typical American voter, student, and parent who remain dangerously unaware.
Thank you for your perspective. There’s been a noticeable change in conventional thinking/wisdom over the last three decades, and it hardly seems by accident.
Not along ago another President looked into the eyes of Pooty Poot and said he saw his soul and could trust the man.
Now with the latest President in the White House to lead the nation off the cliff we have an idiot checkers player facing off with Putin,the consummate chess player.
Historically every culture,empire and nation that elevated the closet perverts to high social status and acceptance has shortly after been destroyed.The Russians know this and reject the queer American value.
I commend the Russians for understanding the risks of Sodom and Gomorrah values.
“American values”,the great empty rallying cry. What are they anymore ?
Greed,the deepest pocket$ money and liars ruling over us, corruption,out of control immorality and crime, Starbucks and WalMart ?
The values of a corrupt,bloated government that rule like gangsters Capone would envy ?
The values of a decadent, amoral society that has rejected it’s Judeo-Christian foundations and replaced them with a diversity of perversity agenda ?
The values of a greedy,corrupt government where greedy,corrupt big business line the pockets of do nothing senators and do nothing congressmen with millions for special favors ?
Or is it the Empire values of wasting trillions of dollars in worthless wars while bringing down the U.S. to third world status for the agenda of the globalists oligarchy now firmly in control in both parties as they push their evil NWO agenda here and across the world.
American Values,What a tired hypocritical old retread.
Amen to all that. To brag about American values has become the consummate joke of all jokes. To paraphrase Edmund Burke, Love of country is a good value but the country has to be lovable to be loved.
And I didn’t even touch on the American value of killing our 70 million plus babies before they are born,something that would have shocked even the Nazi’s!
We did learn from them how to give those marked for death the class of ‘sub human’(fetus) as Islam following in the Nazi’s footsteps do with the Jews today.
You have it backwards: American Progressives didn’t learn from the Nazis; they TAUGHT the Nazis. It’s just that it took the Progressives decades longer to implement their plans here than in Germany, but they were playing the long game the whole time.
“And we know this: through it all, Barack Obama and Michael McFaul, his ambassador to Russia, have remained silent. They have turned a blind eye to neo-Soviet repression, and they have ignored neo-Soviet aggression. Doggedly focused on their reelection narrative, they have insisted that Russia is doing just fine, a stalwart American partner, because of Obama’s “reset.”
Well, I’m of two opinions about this. The Russians throughout history have always been thugs and animals. They have never, ever, had a real and honest democratic form of government, being either run by a monarchy, Communism, or the brutal oligarchy that has taken hold since the fall of the Soviet Union. So wishing that these people would suddenly become a democracy was always wishful thinking. Russia loves despots and dictators, always has and always will. They admire the strength they have and in some strange way believe that dictators represent order in their pathetic view of the world. They were given a chance at real democracy after the fall of the Soviet Union and they blew it. Since there isn’t much we can do about that, we just have to admit it and move on.
But as far as Russian expansion is concerned, we can and should stop them over that. Russia’s meddling in Iran and Venezuela and possibly even eastern Europe not only goes against our foreign policy (such as it is), but it also represents a clear and present danger to the security of the United States. Obama doesn’t want to be bothered by “trivial” foreign policy matters such as this (he always saw foreign policy as a “distraction” from his domestic agenda), especially in an election year. But the longer we do nothing, the bolder the Russians will become. And the only thing the Russians, like the Iranians, respect is strength. That’s why we need to keep our military large and strong. A strong, credible, defense will intimidate the Russians from getting too bold and it will certainly slap down the Iranians if needed. If those major cuts in defense take place next year if there is no budget deal in Congress, Russia (and China) will eat us for breakfast and there will not be much we can do about it. I just think it’s ironic that while George W. Bush was president, the United States had few problems with Russia. Now that Obama is president, the Russians are beating Obama like a cheap drum. Shows you what a difference a president makes.
Well said Liberty
We’re morally,economically,militarily bankrupt,we’re broke,soon to be broken to pieces,but we’re still very cocky,arrogant and boast with galactic hubris as the naked emperor plays checkers and golfs.
A has been empire, breathing it’s last tank of oxygen, our enemies can see that but the proud fools headed for destruction don’t have a clue.
Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before a fall.
Proverbs 16:18
Well, for one, the Ruskies can never be trusted. Secondly, just because of bunch of sneering talking heads, who are so brilliant in their own minds, comment that American values don’t exist, and that we are a bunch of greedy perverts, doesn’t mean that we live without hope for the future. For 60 plus years it’s always been said that the Russsians are playing chess while the Americans play checkers. Russia can go pat itself on the back for sneaking into the Gulf of Mexico. Big deal.
‘doesn’t mean that we live without hope for the future’
What future ?
The wicked shall be turned into hell, And all the nations that forget God.
Psalm 9:17
Well, we best get praying and hope god hasn’t written us off for space debris, flying endlessly through the cosmos.
What a joke thsi article is! Dictator/Islamic Nazi Muslim Brotherhood (MB)-loving/Saudi-king bowing/War Criminal Obama and his evil REGIME love democracy so much – yeah right, by committing international War Crimes/Crimes against Humanity through ARMING savage Saudi/Qatar-kings sponsored Nazi MB-led Jihadist terrorists to rob, commit Genocide and Arabicizing-Islamicizing non-Arabs/non-Muslims in OIL/LAND/MINERAL RICH non-Arab African Libya, Algeria, Egypt, Mali & Tunisia and soon to be Mid-East Syria and Lebanon! Let’s compare and see the horrifying REALITY of similarities: At – http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/id9.html
HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST
By John J. Ray (M.A.; Ph.D.)
EPITOME:
Hitler was a fairly mainstream Leftist of his day. It must be remembered that he gained power by way of a democratic election, not by way of a revolution or a military coup. If any of that seems wrong to you, you need to keep reading
….Hitler and his criminal gang hated the rich, the capitalists, the Jews, the Christian Churches, and “the System”….
“Of what importance is all that, if I range men firmly within a discipline they cannot escape? Let them own land or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is that the State, through the Party, is supreme over them regardless of whether they are owners or workers. All that is unessential; our socialism goes far deeper. It establishes a relationship of the individual to the State, the national community. Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings.”
(Both quotes above are from Hermann Rauschning in Hitler Speaks, London, T. Butterworth, 1940, also called The Voice of Destruction. See e.g. here. ……
There are important bases strung along the coast of the Gulf, especially in Florida. I wonder how much intel the subs got.
Looking at Russia’s foreign policy behavior since Putin, it appears that the leadership there isn’t acting in the nation’s best interests, but is instead stuck in an obsolescent cycle. The country was faking it when the took on the West with it’s world takeover program starting in 1917, and, after a brief respite in 1989, they’re back at it, trying to restart the Cold War for no good reason.
But, in terms of power, weapons have immense leverage, and the Russians are very good at weapons. If military is all a country has going for itself, what better horse to ride than Islam, which has been in a constant state of war since it’s inception? Trouble is, the Moslems are unreliable and Russians are Infidels:
Allah has already sanctioned for Moslems the dissolution of your vows.
- Holy Ko-Ran 66:2
How man religions have a god-command that convenient for aggression? Maybe Islam ain’t just a religion, maybe it’s something bigger. Whatever it is, it’s working.
Russia is dying, and only in Putin’s dreams is there any hope of restoring Mother Russia’s former glory. They’re a bit richer now than in Soviet days, but that’s a temporary boost from oil/gas drilling, soon to be eclipsed by the fact that their fertility rate is about 1. Were it not for the fact that alcoholism is killing people before they can retire, Russia would be no less an economic basket case than Greece.
Worse, they’re as stupid as we are. The fertility rate collapse has caused them to let a certain gene pool into the country for back fill. The streets of Moscow now have the flavor of Dearborn. But there is no Ford Motor Company in Moscow. Too bad, cuz Russia has great scientists and engineers. But, give them credit, they’re well ahead of us in pursuit of the dream of socialism, so they’ve been broke for decades. We’re playing catch up on that, gaining fast heading into the home stretch.
Prez Dubya said he looked into Vlad’s blue eyes and saw his soul. He was wrong again, of course, cuz Vlad (straight from a career in the KGB) no longer has a soul.
They were just responding to those BP ads to come visit the Gulf.
Josh,
just wondering,
I wonder how hard it would have been for them to drop off a nuclear device on a fault line(New Madrid) with remote timer to cause a major Gulf Tsunami and set off the big one splitting US down the almost dry Mississippi?
That would do it,don’t you think ?
I wouldn’t worry, I’ll bet a close inspection of the French Quarter even today would show about half their crew stayed behind.
It’s always good sport to speculate about mega disasters… until one happens. So your post here reeks of rationality.
A couple of years ago over in Persia, Prez Mahmoud proposed an even better plan: explode an EMP warhead a few hundred miles inland from the East Coast. He noted that this would take only one such warhead, a used freighter for transport, and an intermediate range missile to put half of the U.S. back into the Dark Ages. Literally dark, as no electric lights and needing candle light after dark, no cars or stoplights, no airplanes, no computers, no home heaters or AC, no TVs or radios, no elevators… no nothing except what existed back before Benjamin Franklin, one of our Founding Fathers.
The enormous progress made each year in electronics applications makes us that much more susceptible. The wires, switches, processors and any other electronic device is ruined in seconds after an EMP detonation.
This is real, not so-called “Internet garbage.” EMP bombs (aka neutron bombs) have been built and tested. Sadly, no countermeasure exists for such a weapon, except lead shielding every wire, switch, processor and other electronic item on a device that uses electronics. This has presumably already been done on critical military equipment such as USAF aircraft, and no doubt on Air Force One, too, so our great leaders Barack Hussein and Michelle are gonna be ok.
Any nuclear or thermonuclear device can be used as an EMP device and the threat is as great as you say. You don’t have to go so far as lead shielding on everything for protection and there are some pretty good sources on relatively economical shielding methods so that one could preserve some vital electronics. Many survivalists and not a few just regular people are building a shielded room or cabinet where they can keep radio gear and other electronics, a generator, spare ignition parts for vehicles, etc. The standard for SHTF vehicles has long been anything before the late ’70s which still had a conventional points type ignition, which would not be vulnerable to EMP.
As a practical matter, I don’t know why the Iranians or any other rogue moslem regime would nuke Israel. The Israelis would undoubtedly respond by unleashing all their nuclear weapons on the attacker even if it were only their dying gasp before destruction. The US is another matter altogether; all you need is a missle with a few hundred miles range and a rusty old tanker or bulk carrier set up to hide it in transit and launch it. One EMP detonation over the Middle West and most of the US and Canada is in the dark ages for a LONG time. Two missles, one over the Middle West and one over the West Coast and the whole US and much of Canada is in the dark ages for a long time.
With the current regime, there is almost no likelihood of a retaliatory strike. There’d be lots of talk about presumed innocense and due process and then a commission to investigate and determine the true attacker. Most of the Left will believe it is some corporatist or racist conspiracy to bring down The Won and put The People back into feudal serfdom to corporate masters or some such drivel. It’s the stuff of nightmares.
Oh, a neutron bomb is a different critter. I don’t know if the Soviets ever developed one, but somebody probably stole the technology for them so they could have. We were the Evil One of the World when we were developing the neutron bomb because it was designed to do only minimal damage to structures while emitting a massive pulse of neutrons that would extinguish all life in the target area. I suspect the Chinese might have or be working on the neutron bomb for their conquest of Taiwan. While under current circumstances, the US wouldn’t come to Taiwan’s aid, the Taiwanese wouldn’t go gently and it would be a shame to wreck all that nice stuff they’ve built with conventional or nuclear weapons; neutron bomb would be just the trick for eliminating any opposition while still getting all the good stuff.
“As a practical matter, I don’t know why the Iranians or any other rogue moslem regime would nuke Israel.”
It is not a practical matter. If it were there would be no reason for the Iranians to go through all of the trouble and economic devastation they are undergoing to get nukes in the first place.
How many times do they have to say it before people take them seriously? This is their mission from Allah. It is destiny. This is not some propaganda they use to control the masses.
My point is, there is less of a price to pay for nuking the US than Israel and with the US off the board, Israel is a much easier matter.
With the current regime, there is almost no likelihood of a retaliatory strike.
Call me paranoid (please), but at the time I thought it quite notable when BHO slashed funding for ABM development and deployment. That action, I think, had a fundamental effect on hegemonic thinking from the military standpoint.
You don’t have to go so far as lead shielding on everything for protection and there are some pretty good sources on relatively economical shielding methods so that one could preserve some vital electronics.
I didn’t know that; what less expensive and more easily applied materials shield EMP? I’m not being a smart ass here, I’d really like to know (without spending hours searching the Internet to find out).
EMP is literally the Achilles Heel of modern civilization. EMP bombs are relatively easy and cheap to make; destruction of all electronics in a broad region would wreak a devastating effect that would last for at least a decade.
En masse shielding would lessen this nightmarish risk, and it’s a very real risk, that’s why Prez Mahmoud brought it up, to spare terror. But the substitute material would have to be cheap, light and easily deployed. In fact, in these days of oil-enriched Moslems and resurgent communists, such a material should be integrated into the manufacturing processes of everything electronic.
But gubmints would never acknowledge this risk. Too bad Benjamin Franklin ain’t president now, he would.
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It’s odd how calm everybody is about Iran threatening to nuke Israel. Even if one’s a closet Jew hater (and most people are), do they think everything would cool down and return to normal after the Moslems wipe Israel off the map? And, has any elite ever given serious consideration of that possibility?
I for one know that companies like Intel would hate it if that happened. I just saw an ad in the WSJ Investing section from the Israel Ministry of Finance (www.financeisrael.mof.gov.il) touting the country as a great place to put a business. I disagree, although it is the best place in the world to locate a business. But I wouldn’t, say, build a chip fabrication plant there, only to lose it when Prez Mahmoud and his Persian Army friends blast it off the map. It’d be bad for a business to lose a $2 billion plant in a matter of two minutes.
Aluminum foil and bubble wrap are the most economical means of protecting small electronics from EMP. The trick is using multiple layers. The foil will attenuate the signal or pulse, the bubble wrap will insulate each layer of foil from the next. Each layer of foil will further attenuate the EM pulse or wave. A good test is to take a pair of GRMS radios, turn both on, volume on high, and start wrapping starting with bubble wrap. With each layer key the mike on the one and listen to see if the signal gets through. When the radio signal stops you have reached a point of moderate EMP protection. Since there will be no “do overs” in this, I recommend over engineering and go with at least two more layers then pack the whole thing is some sort of metal can that has little or no gap between the lid then seal that with metalize tape like they sell for use on ridged insulation. If you do it right with no connection between the layers of foil you will end up with 7 or 8 layers.
When it comes to autos even the older (pre 76) cars & trucks have components susceptible to EMP, points, condenser, starter coil, and possibly more depending on the vehicle. What can/will fail in newer vehicles are the various computer chips. But even those will not necessarily be destroyed; it will depend upon the strength of the pulse and the distance between you and the origin of the pulse. IF this ever occurs you can try one thing. First disconnect your battery cables and wait about 15 minutes. Reconnect the battery, get in the car, firmly press the gas pedal all the way to the floor and release – only do this once. Then see if the car will start. If by chance it does you will need to let it idle for about 20 minutes while the computers reset and go through their self-adjustments. Again depending on the strength of the pulse some of the chips may be ruined, some may not.
@ Alarmed Pig Farmer – As I understand it, conductive metal screening and a good earth will protect anything inside said screen from EMP. Obviously, anything connected to anything outside the screen will be fried, so you have to have SHTF and backup stuff stored in a protected area.
I’m thinking anybody serious about their future should have a backup computer, a multi-band radio, personal communication radios, a generator, maybe some cell phones for when the grid starts to come back up, and such stored in a a shielded compartment – and soon. I also think that if you have nearby neighbors and friends that you have SHTF plans with, you should think about learning Morse and stocking away a bunch of wire and keys. Not all of us have to go back to a world lit only by fire, but if we’re not prepared we will.
Respectfully to the author of the article, nowhere does it indicate that Putin called OBAMA a “crude blackmailer.” What was said, exactly in the article is this :
Russia, which has long opposed sanctions beyond those approved by the U.N. Security Council to pressure Tehran over its nuclear programme, called the measures “overt blackmail” and a “crude contradiction of international law.”
Respectfully to the author of this piece, nowhere does your referenced article quote Putin calling Obama a “crude blackmailer.” What was said exactly in the article is this :
‘…Russia, which has long opposed sanctions beyond those approved by the U.N. Security Council to pressure Tehran over its nuclear programme, called the measures “overt blackmail” and a “crude contradiction of international law.” ‘
Thank neptune’s grace the Russian’s did not have a Kursk event.
I am much more worried about Iranian subs than Russian ones. Iran has 3 Russian built Kilo class subs and a large number of mini subs capable of acting in the shallow Persian Gulf. These could cause a great deal of trouble for our navy.
I am convinced that an attack on Iran most likely by Israel is inevitable. While a US led attack could do serious damage to Iranian navy bases in the first few hours, Israel could not do that and it’s navy would likely be intact after an Israeli strike.
I think a lot of people underestimate Iran’s resolve to get the U.S. out of their Persian Gulf neighborhood. We are the primary target before Israel.
It’s like US wanting to get Iranian warships out of the Gulf of Mexico permanently.
All the talk about Israel planning a strike ,maybe in the fall or maybe waiting for the US in the spring to hit Iran (as debka reports today) is one sided.
I think it was in 2003 that I first read Iran warning that they would not wait to be attacked but attack first. they haven’t said it in a while because that is their plan,another Pearl Harbor X’s 100.
I think in our arrogance of loose lips, making plans that Iran will beat us to the punch.They’ve been planning to for a long time.
http://youtu.be/5CMd2_XaCLU
Who says a submarine was undetected? And how do they know? If they think they are undetected, while we tie tin cans to their tail, do you think we’ll be putting it in the paper? There’s probably three people in the Pentagon who really know if we missed one. They ain’t telling me, and if they did, I wouldn’t be telling you.
To be frank, how y’all expect to eclipse the Islamic threat without the Russians on board is beyond me.
#20 Mannie #21 jgets (also #2). Good comments.
This whole article seems like nothing more than election year hype. What’s overlooked is that if the submarine was in international waters, it has every right to be there. No different from our ships being in international waters in the Persian Gulf or Arabian Sea.
Well, there is one entertaining thing in this post, I guess. This has got to be the biggest load of crap since Pussy Riot.
Russia Gives No Comments on Submarine Detected off USA
http://rusnavy.com/news/navy/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=15680
Russian nuclear submarine visits Gulf of Mexico undetected 14 August 2012
http://www.naval-technology.com/news/newsrussian-nuclear-submarine-sails-in-gulf-of-mexico-undetected
May I point out that if the Obama administration were to be forthright about what they knew about this alleged Russian submarine, you people would spend the next fifty years screaming about his “leaking national security secrets.”
Nice try. But we would only be mad if he told us how we detected the sub which of course he would and it would cripple out ASW abilities.
Another useful idiot heard from. It is evident that someone in the military not yet compromised or bullied by Comrade Obama’s Junta leaked this. It isn’t that the sub was there; they have the right, it was that it was there and it was only detected as it was leaving weeks later. Had it been detected, there’d have been a Los Angeles class on its tail and nobody would ever have heard of this matter. The fact that it wasn’t detected scared Hell out of somebody in the military and they leaked it. US and Soviet/Russian subs have been playing this game in each other’s territorial waters for half a century and the only time you heard about it was when something went wrong. Something went wrong here.
I think anyone who expects Obama and his media whores to tell us the truth is beyond any hope of returning to the real world… and that is possibly why your eagle has turned (pale) green ?
We threaten to put missiles on their border in Poland………and take umbrage at this?
Scott, what we proposed is a defensive missile battery. There is a HUGE difference between that and a nation destroying boomer.
Then again, this wasn’t a boomer. Attack subs are the submarine equivalent of fighter planes. They are used for conventional attacks against naval assets, launching conventional missiles at land and sea-based targets, escorting boomers and intercepting enemy boomers.
There is no Russian/Poland border.
Technically there is, Kaliningrad Oblast. That’s where the Russians plan,(hypothetically), to place their SSM’s to neutralize the effect of our (hypothetical)SAM’s in Poland.
Undetected attack submarines in the gulf is not Obama’s fault.
It’s “the pentagon’s” fault. That is the place where Next Waritis is not a fault but an obligation. The politicians and the people too perhaps have overlook the big picture in an understandable focus on killing medieval thugs.
May G-d bless Russia for resisting the homosexual and pedophiles
(http://www.wnd.com/2011/08/336741/) and for prosecuting the perverts such as Pussy Riots and Madonna.
I would not worry about Russian submarines being undetected, that will take them a few decades to get there and it could only happen if Russia stays Christian and US continues its transformation into Sodom and Gomorrah as it does now under the first homosexual president Barack Obama. G-d gives nations military strength for their righteousness. At this time, the surplus is on our side. But, it could turn the other way around if the Obamination of US continues beyond 2012.
Here’s what bothers me about this story. If the sub was undetected, how did we know it was in the Gulf almost a month?
Can’t you stop your ridiculous campaign against Russia and Putin ?
Don’t you realise that your enemy is your own administration and those who control your country ?
One day, sooner than you think, we may have to seriously think of applying for political refugee status there !
Putin may not be perfect but he has the support of an overwhelming portion of the Russian population; and that population is not as brainwashed as we are.
OPEN YOUR EYES!!!