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		<title>By: Richard Saunders</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/morale-at-cia-plummets-as-panetta-makes-a-bad-situation-worse/#comment-385028</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mingus: Was that supposed to be responsive to me or to Fred Phillips?  Because the first three paragraphs, including the one you quoted from, were his.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mingus: Was that supposed to be responsive to me or to Fred Phillips?  Because the first three paragraphs, including the one you quoted from, were his.</p>
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		<title>By: mingus</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/morale-at-cia-plummets-as-panetta-makes-a-bad-situation-worse/#comment-384372</link>
		<dc:creator>mingus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RICHARD SAUNDERS:

I&#039;ve thought over what you said. I&#039;m for &#039;complete lawlessness so long as whatever gets done is done with good intentions and with the intention of protecting the USA&#039;. 


Good job, Richard, good job. And thanks for the advice, poofy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RICHARD SAUNDERS:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought over what you said. I&#8217;m for &#8216;complete lawlessness so long as whatever gets done is done with good intentions and with the intention of protecting the USA&#8217;. </p>
<p>Good job, Richard, good job. And thanks for the advice, poofy.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Saunders</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/morale-at-cia-plummets-as-panetta-makes-a-bad-situation-worse/#comment-384237</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred Phillips:  &quot;We did shove sticks up their ass. We also killed quite a lot of them. People were killed while in custody in Iraq. Tough enough for ya? How about suspending people form their arms until their shoulders dislocated? OK with you? How about putting them in small boxes and covering them with insects? Threatening to harm children? Even if these things weren’t illegal, aren’t they immoral? Maybe you don’t care whether the CIA does things that are illegal and/or immoral, I don’t know.

&quot;Is there anything the CIA could do that would not be tolerable to you? Anything at all? Because if KILLING PEOPLE who are in US custody is acceptable to you, then just come right out and admit you are happy with complete lawlessness so long as whatever gets done is done with good intentions and with the intention of protecting the USA.

&quot;And what’s with “assuming the worst”? The “worst” is all a matter of public record. No assumptions required. Read about it for yourself.&quot;

Well, Fred, if that&#039;s all in the public record, there should be no problem for the special prosecutor to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.  Just like there was not going to be a problem convicting Tom DeLay.  BTW, haven&#039;t heard anything about that in a long time.  Wasn&#039;t he indicted in 2005?  How&#039;s that working out, anyway, Fred?  Bueller?  Anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred Phillips:  &#8220;We did shove sticks up their ass. We also killed quite a lot of them. People were killed while in custody in Iraq. Tough enough for ya? How about suspending people form their arms until their shoulders dislocated? OK with you? How about putting them in small boxes and covering them with insects? Threatening to harm children? Even if these things weren’t illegal, aren’t they immoral? Maybe you don’t care whether the CIA does things that are illegal and/or immoral, I don’t know.</p>
<p>&#8220;Is there anything the CIA could do that would not be tolerable to you? Anything at all? Because if KILLING PEOPLE who are in US custody is acceptable to you, then just come right out and admit you are happy with complete lawlessness so long as whatever gets done is done with good intentions and with the intention of protecting the USA.</p>
<p>&#8220;And what’s with “assuming the worst”? The “worst” is all a matter of public record. No assumptions required. Read about it for yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, Fred, if that&#8217;s all in the public record, there should be no problem for the special prosecutor to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.  Just like there was not going to be a problem convicting Tom DeLay.  BTW, haven&#8217;t heard anything about that in a long time.  Wasn&#8217;t he indicted in 2005?  How&#8217;s that working out, anyway, Fred?  Bueller?  Anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MARC: But you also mentioned &#039;cheesed off&#039;. So you think a panetta is a soft cheese? Am I misreading you here? But, but it fits. When you make a fritata in a skillet one of the components is cheese. But did you mean panetta as cheese or fry pan? Clearly not bacon or fruit, right?
I would definitely look into Feteke if you already haven&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MARC: But you also mentioned &#8216;cheesed off&#8217;. So you think a panetta is a soft cheese? Am I misreading you here? But, but it fits. When you make a fritata in a skillet one of the components is cheese. But did you mean panetta as cheese or fry pan? Clearly not bacon or fruit, right?<br />
I would definitely look into Feteke if you already haven&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MARC: Did you mean skillets or skillsets? See, skillets would make sense, if, as I suggested, a panetta was a utensil for making fritatas, and not, as some dimwits have suggested tropical fruit, soft cheese or bacon. Are you sith me on this. This could be important. I don&#039;t know how to work skillsets into this dialogue. Do you know Feteke?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MARC: Did you mean skillets or skillsets? See, skillets would make sense, if, as I suggested, a panetta was a utensil for making fritatas, and not, as some dimwits have suggested tropical fruit, soft cheese or bacon. Are you sith me on this. This could be important. I don&#8217;t know how to work skillsets into this dialogue. Do you know Feteke?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone at the CIA with serious skillsets may just get cheesed off by this.  Most would just quit, but someone may decide enough is enough.  This could turn out very, very badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone at the CIA with serious skillsets may just get cheesed off by this.  Most would just quit, but someone may decide enough is enough.  This could turn out very, very badly.</p>
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		<title>By: goy</title>
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		<dc:creator>goy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;@106. The Toad:&lt;/b&gt; - Does our esteemed president really want to get into a urinating contest with these people?&lt;/i&gt;

This would probably be why he&#039;s playing &quot;Good Cop - Bad Cop&quot; on this with Holder.

I&#039;m sure the people at the CIA - only some of the most intelligent people on the planet - are buying it.

Not.

.

Trent - your analysis is exactly right, IMHO. All part of the new-and-improved Brown Shirts dynamic being tested by our new national socialist overlords.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>@106. The Toad:</b> &#8211; Does our esteemed president really want to get into a urinating contest with these people?</i></p>
<p>This would probably be why he&#8217;s playing &#8220;Good Cop &#8211; Bad Cop&#8221; on this with Holder.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the people at the CIA &#8211; only some of the most intelligent people on the planet &#8211; are buying it.</p>
<p>Not.</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Trent &#8211; your analysis is exactly right, IMHO. All part of the new-and-improved Brown Shirts dynamic being tested by our new national socialist overlords.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Telenko</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/morale-at-cia-plummets-as-panetta-makes-a-bad-situation-worse/#comment-383176</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Telenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate,
.
You may recall the instance years ago in which one of “spontaneous jihad” types in the Maryland area sat at an intersection leading to Langley until a car with a CIA officer going to work came by, killed him, and took off for Waziristan.
.
We now have photos of CIA intelligence officers involved with Gitmo interrogations of Al-Qaeda terrorists, and their families, &lt;b&gt;with home addresses&lt;/b&gt; that are going up on lefty web sites thanks to the American Civil Liberties Union’s “John Adams Project.”
.
See:
.
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/26/aclus-spying-project-operation-cia-paparazzi/
.
and
.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=335749201347962
.
From there it will make it to all the “spontaneous jihad” types in the Maryland/NVA area from the various Saudi funded Madras’s.
.
I expect these intelligence officers, and their families, will be subjected to additional “spontaneous jihad” attacks like that dead CIA officer. 
.
Only it will include attacks on these people in their homes.
.
In the worse case, these CIA officer’s kids may be targeted on the way to or in school. Think in terms of a snatch-torture-murder, in the USA, of a CIA interrogation officer’s kid(s), complete with internet snuff video released before the body is found.
.
Holder &amp; Obama’s failure to publically enforce laws which protect the community invites private violence to protect the community.
.
There are zero, zip, nada indications that Holder will enforce the criminal laws on intelligence officer identification confidentiality (See Valerie Plame) on the “John Adams Project” lawyers, prior to any attacks on intelligence personnel &amp; their families that would head off subsequent right wing nut vigilante action.
.
AG Holder is far too busy placating the Leftie base of the Democratic Party with the CIA interrogation witch hunt those “John Adams Project” lawyers are leading.
.
That is the road to hell for an American version of the Spanish Civil War.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate,<br />
.<br />
You may recall the instance years ago in which one of “spontaneous jihad” types in the Maryland area sat at an intersection leading to Langley until a car with a CIA officer going to work came by, killed him, and took off for Waziristan.<br />
.<br />
We now have photos of CIA intelligence officers involved with Gitmo interrogations of Al-Qaeda terrorists, and their families, <b>with home addresses</b> that are going up on lefty web sites thanks to the American Civil Liberties Union’s “John Adams Project.”<br />
.<br />
See:<br />
.<br />
<a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/26/aclus-spying-project-operation-cia-paparazzi/" rel="nofollow">http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/26/aclus-spying-project-operation-cia-paparazzi/</a><br />
.<br />
and<br />
.<br />
<a href="http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=335749201347962" rel="nofollow">http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=335749201347962</a><br />
.<br />
From there it will make it to all the “spontaneous jihad” types in the Maryland/NVA area from the various Saudi funded Madras’s.<br />
.<br />
I expect these intelligence officers, and their families, will be subjected to additional “spontaneous jihad” attacks like that dead CIA officer.<br />
.<br />
Only it will include attacks on these people in their homes.<br />
.<br />
In the worse case, these CIA officer’s kids may be targeted on the way to or in school. Think in terms of a snatch-torture-murder, in the USA, of a CIA interrogation officer’s kid(s), complete with internet snuff video released before the body is found.<br />
.<br />
Holder &amp; Obama’s failure to publically enforce laws which protect the community invites private violence to protect the community.<br />
.<br />
There are zero, zip, nada indications that Holder will enforce the criminal laws on intelligence officer identification confidentiality (See Valerie Plame) on the “John Adams Project” lawyers, prior to any attacks on intelligence personnel &amp; their families that would head off subsequent right wing nut vigilante action.<br />
.<br />
AG Holder is far too busy placating the Leftie base of the Democratic Party with the CIA interrogation witch hunt those “John Adams Project” lawyers are leading.<br />
.<br />
That is the road to hell for an American version of the Spanish Civil War.</p>
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		<title>By: Genghis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genghis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what this cheese stuff has anything to do with anything.  Cheese, bacon, frying pans, ...what the 
F**k are you talking about?????? FETEKE, FETEKE is the path to victory. do want to win or lose?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what this cheese stuff has anything to do with anything.  Cheese, bacon, frying pans, &#8230;what the<br />
F**k are you talking about?????? FETEKE, FETEKE is the path to victory. do want to win or lose?????</p>
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		<title>By: Kuntakata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kuntakata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRUCE: Guido is absolutely correct. Panetta is a soft cheese. Pancetta is Italian bacon. I never heard of a cooking utensil called pancetta. Porsche is coming out with a Panamerica. Could this be it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRUCE: Guido is absolutely correct. Panetta is a soft cheese. Pancetta is Italian bacon. I never heard of a cooking utensil called pancetta. Porsche is coming out with a Panamerica. Could this be it?</p>
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