Domestic Enemies of the Constitution every one of them along with their traitorous supporters and gunmen.

Rebels in government positions have undermined the peoples trust in government.

Paul 212. Great point, I should have mentioned it before. Also, I think all law schools should be closed for 10 years and 50% of lawyers be disbarred.

Great. Now be a good little troll and go tell your messiah. Neither he nor the rest of the attorneys in Congress seem to be interested in Tort Reform at all. In fact, BHO seems to be developing a serious disconnect with his political base.

Instead of spending your time spewing nonsense here, you might want to work on setting him straight.

So to speak.

“Death panels is a morbid lie.”

“The Left claims 57 million uninsured. Current population estimates for the USA are around 310 million. So that means the health care available now covers 253 million, give or take a small village or two. So you expect the current health care system to expand to handle another 20% or so.
Do the resources for this 20% increase come out of thin air?”

The current health system is handling the uninsured through emergency rooms.

212. Paul -Indiana:

“Start with Tort Reform and you get reduced doctor’s expenses.”

I’m all for it.

213. william:

“Vivo 210. This can all be done without the government by allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines.”

That would just make the insurers bigger, more bureaucratic and greedy for profits. Maybe you know something I don’t.

I imagine things have changed in that area enormously over the past 40 years. When I lived in Skokie, Evanston was a largely minority/black township (e.g., 80% or so of the above-mentioned g-team was black). That has apparently changed since then. Interestingly, the largely Hasidic area of Chicago we lived in, prior to Skokie, is now inhabited primarily by Korean immigrants (e.g., Lawrence Ave. was renamed “Seoul Blvd.” last time I visited). Obviously, my handle has a history.

- You do realize that it was American money – particularly money from the Union Bank (as in money from Prescott Bush) – that created the Saudi Thugdom of Arabia.
Actually, no, I don’t. It’s not at all that simple. The thugdoms in both Saudi and Iran were made possible through the development of oil production infrastructure by the U.S. and Great Britain, respectively. Iran (then Persia) reneged on their treaty with Britain at the hands of its first thug (ironically, a largely secular communist) and the Saudis have done pretty much the same albeit over a much longer period of time and in a much more slimy manner, by manipulating other governments – including the U.S. – through the manipulation of oil.

As far as the resistance to the Soviet invasion, it’s a tad unrealistic to hold contemporary American interests accountable for the behavior and/or the lack of loyalty on the part of the islamist resistance. Unless you’re going to assert that their American supporters could somehow see into the future, and knew what they would do, this entire line of reasoning is pretty pointless.

- Groups like al-Qaeda would not have even existed, in other words, without the mother’s milk of American support …
Uh-huh. And the Iraqi national security forces now fall into the same category. When Iraq rises up against some country in some future decade, will it once again be time to hold America responsible for their actions as well? Israel, in fact, would likely not exist in its present form if it hadn’t been for U.S. support following the fiasco created by the failed League of Nations, Balfour and Britain’s meddling in the Middle East in pursuit of oil. If Israel is ever forced to nuke Iran, will that be America’s fault?

In all this, I think we can comfortably agree on the character of GHWB.

In my opinion this shady character is personally responsible for more conflict, pain and human suffering on this planet than the last dozen U.S. Presidents combined. That includes FDR, who did his level best to corrupt and bankrupt America and turn it into a totalitarian state – just like BHO is doing now – and Truman, who authorized the devastation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Where FDR failed, as much of his unconstitutional policies were repealed, GHWB has manipulated the CIA and the federal government for decades, and never been held accountable for the direct result of his actions – including his betrayal of the Kurds and anti-Ba’athist Iraqis, which ultimately led to OIF. If memory serves, he was the first to use the term New World Order in public oratory, and it’s clear to me, looking back, as well as seeing his all-too-chummy relationship with the Clintons, that he’s just as big a part of the globalist putsch for the centralization of power as anyone. That, as I see it, is his motivation for cozying up to the oil barons in Saudi, which is just a small part of a much larger picture. Had it not been for 9/11, GWB would have been more of the same – but events forced his hand.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2005-03-02-doctor-shortage_x.htm

http://www.who.int/whosis/en/

Interesting data in that WHO data base. Not sure I believe it all, since GIGO has a permanent home at the UN.

Semantics. It is NOT physically possible under current staffing to provide everyone with health care.

Lets try a little logic. Little because most liberals are not equipped to handle a lot of logic.

The Left claims 57 million uninsured. Current population estimates for the USA are around 310 million. So that means the health care available now covers 253 million, give or take a small village or two. So you expect the current health care system to expand to handle another 20% or so.
Do the resources for this 20% increase come out of thin air? Pixie dust? Carbon credits? Left-over cell phone minutes?
The Demonrats are saying that resources will just appear because Congress passes a law…. The voters aren’t buying it.

So we are back to supply and demand, that natural law that liberals don’t believe exists. The cost of medical care is high because there isn’t enough to go around. Making it stretch even farther isn’t going to make it cheaper. Having the government pay for it won’t lower the price either. So to save money, the government will HAVE to decide which patients are worth spending money on and which ones should be allowed to die.
Hence “Death Panels”.
I would prefer to call them ‘Triage Committees’ and have them staffed by Doctors, but with a 20% increase in workload, doctors won’t have the time.