Media, Academia Destroying Themselves Over Israel
The irrational slander and hatred of Israel is not destroying Israel. It is destroying the institutions — media and academic, especially — being driven to madness by this obsessive irrationality and decline from their own proper standards.
Like an oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico, the number of lies, logical fallacies, concealments, and strategic misconceptions necessary to make Israel look bad has grown so large that it threatens the health of the media and intelligentsia.
For in their assaults on Israel, these particular news media — of course, not in all they do nor in the work of all who report for them — have left behind professional ethics, rationality, and their own credibility. Political correctness has eclipsed factual correctness, and the purpose of some newspapers has been redefined from reporting the news to merely reporting the news that furthers the political agenda of editors and journalists.
The above, of course, is strenuously denied by those who embody such behavior, though it is of no surprise to those who are reading these words. And in this growing gap, the former lose credibility and the latter lose respect for what should be one of the main pillars of Western democracy and defense against the ideologies of dictatorship.
There is no institution that is more clearly typical of this malady than the once-respected and now justly often-ridiculed New York Times. Only the Times could donate a huge space to Tony Judt, a man without qualification to discuss the Middle East, claiming that the idea Israel is being delegitimized was a propaganda myth created by the Netanyahu government … while Judt daily delegitimizes Israel.
The Times apparently views any statement made by Israel or its supporters to be false until proven true beyond its ability to think up some excuse for not accepting it. After Israel released several videos showing Israeli soldiers arriving on the deck of the Mavi Marmara and being beaten by a large mob, it dismissed the footage as … “lacking context. Were they [the images] shot before or after the boarding party started using force?”
Yet one can clearly see on the video that the militants on the ship’s deck are calmly standing there, obviously not being fired upon, and the soldiers are holding onto the rope, with their guns slung over their shoulders.
Forced to retreat a bit — but never acknowledging its error — the Times editorialized: “The Israelis claim that Insani Yardim Vakfi is a dangerous organization with terrorist links. They have yet to offer any evidence to support that charge.”
But, of course, a vast amount of evidence had been released, including: documents showing the organization had been declared to have such links by, among other entities, the Danish government, France’s leading counterterrorism magistrate, a previous Turkish government, and the U.S. government.
All documents are easily available on the internet, but beyond the reach of the Times, apparently.
There is, of course, one obvious point that proves the group has terrorist links: its open support for Hamas, a terrorist organization, in terms of financing, supplying, strategy (trying to break the blockade against it), and political aims. On virtually any other topic, this would have been sufficient to prove the point.
While governments of Israel, like all governments, have told lies, what is amazing is how good that government’s record is — especially compared to other Western democracies. Israel and its supporters know that their every word will be scrutinized and must be backed up by facts and documentation. Yet the Times and other mass media often treat Israel as less credible than dictatorships and terrorists whose record for veracity is minimal.
This phenomonon is derived from the Left/Progressive Marxist world-view. Isn’t this exactly the same thing we have in Israel? Look at our media, our universities. The New York Times is nothing compared to Haaretz.
The Left has embraced Islam, formed an alliance, this is the real Axis of Evil in the world today. And, both are liars, they are based on falsehood, misrepresentation, an Orwellian use of language, to spread their poison. All the rhetoric is just camouflage because the only goal is power. The best analogy is the alliance of Hitler & Stalin before WWII.
True. And the most interesting and ironic thing is that Islam and the Left are diametrically opposed to one another, e.g., Islam hates the hedonism of the Left and would destroy its adherents first if it ever got the upper hand in the latter’s domain.
The problem is that the Left doesn’t see it that way. They’ve deluded themselves into believing that Islam is a “religion of peace”, and that only a tiny handful of “extremists” are ruining it for everyone else.
Well, Islam is a religion of the Third World unsullied by the influence of the dreaded Dead White European Males. (We’ll ignore, as do leftists, its appropriation of Judaism’s prophets and Jesus.) So, even if it’s savage, it’s still a religion of the Noble Savage, the multiculti peaceful happy people of the world whose Eden was corrupted by the West, capitalism, Christianity, etc.
And its violence can be rationalized away as a legitimate “popular resistance” whose “root cause” is Zionist oppression. Resistance by multiculti peaceful happy people of the world whose Eden was corrupted by the West, capitalism, Christianity, etc.
(There’s a drinking game in here somewhere, I’m sure.)
Thats a bit of a stretch… the left has and will always be that of collectivism… religion is almost always heavily collectivist in nature…
Islam and leftwingers are very much the same expect they prefer different collectives on the top. In the end though other then what that collective is at the top their is no difference between them at all.
Collectivists have 1 over reaching goal.. destroy individualists. Then they move on to remove the collectives they they don’t like. A classic of this was when hitler worked with stalin… 2 collectivists working together to further their own goals… then hitler decided that his collective was strong enough to wipe out his competing collective in stalin… so he attacked. The same would have happened to japan once hitler or japan was big enough to destroy the other… it is the way collectivism works.
And the same would have happened if the Muslims (particularly Palestinians) who aligned themsleves with Hitler had succeeded in wiping out the Jews in the Middle East. Did the Muslims totally disregard the fact that in the eyes of the Nazis they were of impure blood? Were either aware that, if successful together in eliminating the Jews, they were going to have to duke it out between them in a final fight for power? ~JMilam
All the well-meaning criticism of the media only hints at the reality. The “liberal” American media and the European media are merely mouthpieces for economic forces. And those forces are, for obvious reasons, allied with oil money. Thus, “follow the money” and EXPOSE the media for the shills that they really are: The bankrupt NYT, paid-off US academic presses, the AP- Arabiated Press, CNN- Caliphate News Network, Riyeuters – all roll over for oil money. The most egregious example of all is the BBC, since it is the house organ of the “entity” most desperate for an oil money bailout. The same goes for the media of the “PIIGS” – they are all “over a barrel” (of oil).
Right Terry. It’s the Gramscian program which successfully captured the liberal arts faculties and MSM long ago. They aren’t going crazy. They went crazy long ago. They are just making it obvious, but any place that went postmodern went off the edge at that time.
Postmodernism is just the childish ability to doubt or misunderstand the meaning of anything coupled to an agenda which is basically Marxist.
It’s certainly true that the left and Islam are in alliance. It is the big lie in bed with the old lie. When they destroy all vestiges of anything founded on any form of old faith, like belief in God (Allah is a fake), country, family, decency, … they will fight it out. My money’s on Islam, because it has a hell of a lot more experience promoting the old lie.
Well, my money would be on Islam, except … the liars are going to lose.
Yep! We’re gonna whup them, but it won’t be easy.
The heart of the old values has two parts – the United States and Israel. The peripheral nations have been neutralized. The heart is in the fight now.
Prof. Rubin, just read the article by Bruce Bawer right here on Pajamas. It’s a great example of what I said in my comment. Radical Leftists enforcing Shari’a Law, eliminating freedom of expression. Both the Left & Islam are basically totalitarian movements, it’s George Orwell’s ”1984” coming to all Western democracies.
As a Christian American who grew up with neither Jewish or muslims friends I can honestly say I care less for Israel than for the American North during the Civil War a century and a half ago. However, if I were a Jew with a thousand years of European pogroms and murders behind me, I’d do the exact same thing as Israel and wouldn’t give a damn what the entire world said since the entire world doesn’t protect Jews when they are slaughtered in their millions. As far as Islam goes, 2 muslims killed by a Jew is bigger news than 200,000 non-muslims killed by other non-muslims. As far as I can tell, the words greater good mean nothing in Islam when it comes to non-muslims and the middle east’s sick obsession with Palestinian Arabs nothing more than childishly stubborn delusion.
If I may, I’ll add a further comment.
Even here in Israel, where one would assume given our circumstances we would encourage a realistic assessement of Islam, where we would take measures against Leftist lunatics in the media & academia, we are caught in the strait-jacket of political correctness.
Just this morning there appeared an article in Ynet about banning the burka in Barcelona. I’m sure you know the exact form the article took, the usual liberal, wishy-washy, ”tolerant” crap, a stereotyped article written by some hack journalist so typical of our media, that nauseating attempt at ”even-handedness” whenever Islam is concerned. So, I wrote a talkback, as I frequently do – knowing full well it would be censored. And, of course, it was censored. I’ll admit that my comment was a bit blunt & tactless. But, actually, it was quite accurate. I could very easily write a long essay with examples to justify my comment.
What did I write? BAN ISLAM BEFORE ISLAM BANS YOU.
My comment is demonstrably true, there is a mountain of evidence that supports this comment.
At the same time, the most extreme comments about Israel, Jews, Judaism, are routinely published. The majority of the comments are not in the realm of opinion – they are out-right lies, false accusations, & misrepresentations.
We are being buried in an avalanche of BS, from media, from academics, from politicians.
Haaretz is crazy but its influence is limited to those who already think like it. Regarding the universities, it depends what you study – the craziness is mostly in Social Sciences. And here also, the influence is limited – students are not that stupid and don’t buy the non-sense. Anyway, the flow of students is now diverting from universities to the much less politicized “colleges”.
I have often wonder why none of the major Jewish organizations have established a “Guide” or a “Rating System” of some sort for each of the major colleges which looks at institutional attitudes toward Jewish students, Israel and other issues related to true tolerance. On the negative side the rating must include tolerance to pro-terrorism, Antisemitism and violence by groups that so profess.
In the long run, moving students to comfortable milieu ultimately moves alumni money and academic excellence. It will not directly affect the self hating Jews of the left, but ultimately they will figure out they have become tokens.
That’s a DAMN good idea!
Historically, looking at Israel one can know that if you attack Israel, you will have to answer to God. Look at the financial condition of the New York Times, LA Times and any other left wing, radical anti-Israel medium. They are failing fast. The New York Times is in big trouble and over the past year has layed off more than 1400 employees. With every attack on Israel, they lose even more credibility and their paper has less value than the day before. Their lies and deceptions concerning Israel will be their final undoing. They just don’t seem to catch on.
Somehow I feel that we are back in 1948, when Israel was starting her fight for independence. Anti-Semitism was rampant all over the world, including here in the United States and especially in Europe, and the Jewish people stood alone. Only a few brave westerners stood by the new Jewish state, but it was enough to win the day. But today, given all of the history over the past sixty-plus years, I cannot understand why the West is still determined to throw in its lot with a bunch of Muslim religious fanatics, dictators, and thugs rather than standing by the only true democracy in the Middle East. If the West thinks the Muslims will “love” the West because of this betrayal of Israel, think again. Al Qaeda still hates us, the Taliban still hates us, the Iranians still hate us, Hamas and Hezbollah still hate us, and all of the Sunni regligious fundamentalists really, really, hate us (and they are spread out throughout the Muslim world, espcially in places like Syria and Egypt). So none of this Israel-bashing is helping us, so why do it? We need to stand by friendly democracies, whatever it takes. If we do not, we will fall individually to these Muslim thugs.
Alas, I think it speaks to the depth of hatred for Jews.
…the depth of hatred for Jews, AND for the post-Christian West.
… and the still Christian west
… and the non-Christian east
… and muslims who aren’t their brand of muslims
… and women who have minds of their own
… and just about everyone and everything
Because the people who do this are not in favor of democracies to begin with.
When you consider that our USA based propaganda media is into more pure propaganda than even the European propaganda media, who admit their biases for the most part, why does this surprise anyone.
I think our media is far more delusional than anything else, a love for themselves and anointed position, that bears no resemblance to reality. Days gone by.
Take Helen Thomas, an age old wretch of a reporter, who should have been thrown out on her head long ago for her agenda journalism. Not given a place of honor in the White House Press Corpse.
What Terry, Eilat – Israel said!
“Media, Academia Destroying Themselves Over Israel”
Works for me.
and defense against the ideologies of dictatorship.
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Would this be the same media, many of whose leading lights have recently wished that Obama could be declared dictator so that he could get things done?
Terry: Correct and at some point in the future the left and Islam will come into conflict as did Hitler and Stalin.
(I said the same things as you on the Bawer-no free speech-article regarding the relationship between the left and Islam.)
I have read that, shortly after the Islamic Revolution in Iran in 1979, the government arrested and executed members of the secular left who had supported the revolution and believed they would be a part of the new government. The precedent is there. Totalitarian governments don’t share power.
Correct — I am currently reading Reza Khalili’s book “A Time To Betray” which is excellent and I highly recommend it.
Interestingly enough, before he wrote it he gave his first interviews here on PJM. The very first one was done by Roger Simon. Anyway, it was a very good article and interview. But what was AMAZING was that a mere 2 years ago, the comments section … it was literally unrecognizable to what it is today! Half the comments were saying, no screaming, that “this Reza Khalili” is “curveball v2.0″ (?) and that he was just some guy the CIA coughed up — or that he didn’t even work for the CIA and that his whole purpose was to get us into war with Iran — and this was AFTER the “intelligence Report” effectively neutered Bush’s ability to do *anything* with Iran. It was at the end of his presidency and the hate spewing froth even in a place like PJM against huim was… unrecognizable!
You should look it up — it’s really a comment on how far
1) we PJM’ers have matured / grown
2) the affect of Obama on the entire country (or possibly just the Conservatives)
3) and the utter viciousness of even supposedly right wing folk against Reza — who saw his childhood friend tortured and killed, his friend’s sister raped repeatedly and then executed. the list goes on and on. And to think these people said the most vile things about this incredibly admirable man — it turns out Reza was our ONLY source for something like 10 – 15 years WITHIN the Revolutionary Guards. Everything the CIA thought they knew about Iran was wrong wrong wrong. He joined the IRG right after the Shah left thinking that Democracy would come to all. And he was quickly disabused of this as he describes in his book. Then he had the phenomenal courage — a courage I know I wouldn’t have — to lead a double life, putting his family at risk, lying constantly to his wife, being able to confide in no one… the list just goes on and on. And even now he cannot reveal his identity or location or visage or voice as there are Iranian agents out hunting him down. The man is really incredible. But to read his early articles here on PJM and the reaction is even more incredible.
I think I bring this up in small part because like we are discussing now, there was a “prevailing wisdom” which all the commenters had — and which was flat out wrong. Luckily it only took 2 years for them, in Reza’s case, to see the error of their ways. But perhaps, in a similar way, a preponderance of facts and well written books (like Reza’s) will also change some current prevailing wisdom. But… I’m probably being too optimistic. Sigh. It will take the sight of thousand of Israelis lying bloodied in the street to change things for a while — just like there was a small uptick after the images of Gulf War I. But the next imagines will be far more bloody. Israel will have to pay in blood for any good will they might receive, if they receive anything other than, “it serves them right.”
Bible thumper I am not, student of history I am! Every year archiological evidence supports historic events depicted in the pages of the Bible, both old a new testiments. One thing is very clear in regards to events surrounding the people of Israel………..when they are about to face anialation something super-natural occurs to preserve them. Being on the wrong side of the people of Israel is not a wise option. Just speaking from a historical back drop.
Smitty, Archeology is only one of several sciences that have supported the truth of the Torah.
Oceanography -
http://www.doronnof.net/downloads/ny-times1.pdf
Biology -
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/israel/familylemba.html
Astronomy -
http://hubblesite.org/hubble_discoveries/dark_energy/
If our eyes are open we can truly see.
I recently watched a documentary that outlined the science behind the miraculous events that helped Moses free his people. Some might say a scientific explanation of the bloody water, the pestilences, etc. is proof that there was no God behind it. A series of natural events that occurred at the exact time Moses was struggling to free his people is way too much coincidence for me…!
Strictly speaking, YHWH permitted ancient Israel to get stomped regularly because they kept disobeying and wanting to follow the religions of this world. And YHWH used other tribes and nations to do the stomping. So keep that in mind — there is nothing magical about Israel as a country today. Israel has plenty of Leftists infesting it today, and politically Israel today is mainly a secular state.
Flying universities, as written about in “The Keys of this blood” by Malachi Martin is a good place to start to replace the post High School centres of indoctrination and propaganda.
Terry @ 1
Yes, it’s the same in Israel as it is in the US, and the trouble is, they’re out to kill.
There are Jewish dupes on the Left who truly don’t harbor murderous intent in their hearts and would be genuinely offended by such a charge. But some Jews on the Left aren’t that stupid. They side with genocidal maniacs and know full well what they’re doing. It’s sick.
The dupes or the ”useful idiots” are the Liberal centre, the wishful thinkers, the bleeding hearts, the people who are afraid of being thought of as ”extremists” – you know, the respectable, head-in-the-sand, isn’t denial wonderful crowd.
The far left is indeed sick, mentally deranged, our universities are just chock full of them, just like universities all over the West.
As a number of people above remarked, all these fools will be the first eliminated by Islam. Totalitarians don’t like power-sharing.
I have long argued that a softer discipline credential from any major university should initially be treated with contempt. It is very fair and just to consider their graduates as idiots until proven otherwise. Decades of politically correct indoctrination have resulted in the awarding of degrees to second-rate mediocrities. Please note that I am not including hard science credentials in my criticism. Those are usually legitimately earned.
Israelies lefties share the arab agenda and are aware of it meaning, Israel destruction and her population exterminated.
Western lefties erroneously belive they can cooperate with muslems destroying west society for their own agenda but are not aware of the final result which is a muslim reality Soud Arabian or Iranian style.
Mark Steyn also addressed this issue in a recent NRO column. He makes the very persuasive point that the Muslim world has perceptively recognized that both academia and the media are far more invested in promoting “victimhood” and “diversity” than they are in recognizing such trivial matters as the existential threat to Israel. Writing about the Turkish-sponsored “relief flotillas” Steyn notes:
“(A) couple of readers wrote to me to ask why the British and European media were always so eager to be led up the garden path. Because, when it comes to Israeli “atrocities,” they want to believe. Because, even in an age of sentimental one-worldism, the Jews remain “the other.” If old-school Euro-Judenhass derived from racism and nationalism, the new Judenhass has advanced under the cover of anti-racism and multiculturalism. The oldest hatred didn’t get that way without an ability to adapt.”
I don’t think that anyone could say it better than that.
The Europeans want to believe it because it justifies in retrospect their past treatment of Jews.
It is the flip side of Holocaust denial. If history tells us that Jews were innocent victims, the Holocaust denier claims they were no victims. The anti-Israeli fantasist claims that, even if victims, in retrospect they were not innocent.
Journalism began the process of destroying itself many moons ago.People will sell their souls.This isn’t anything new.
In the first paragraph, the article nails the obsessive-compulsive disorder at play.Fear is driving it.Fear is always the driver for any obsessive behaviour.People of reason are simply afraid of irrational(deadly)conduct and will do anything, even if it means groveling, even if it means lying to themselves and others,to placate-to stave off the pain and suffering being threatened.Our planet is sick with this fear.The GUT (crazy central)is evidence of this mania.
I don’t believe there is any sincere bias toward Islam. No one has shown why there would be unless you were born into it. Euroweenies are suffering from a Stolkholm syndrome of their own making and they have to show some explanation for this weakness and inability to resolve the problems they have created for themselves, so they glom onto the old ready, and convenient in this case, scapegoat.This is typical of people coming from a position of weakness and it has always been thus.
Although I agree with you in part, I would nonetheless point out a larger issue that drives the corrupt Old Left Media, as missionaries for the secular faith of progressivism (my apologies if I’m starting to be trite in this response)…
Equality of results is the primary article of faith in the progressive religion. Equality of results can be pursued only by treating people, cultures, races, religions and societies unequally. Progressives must drag down anything deemed “unfairly” successful, and elevate that which is viewed as “oppressed”. Such double standards are not an aberration, they are the essence of progressivism.
By now, we should realize that the OLM is corrupt, and that it is never going to change. Why do we keep writing ‘double-standard’ articles and thinking otherwise? It is time to get past all that. Instead, call out the OLM, confront them, tell them they belong to a different incompatible religion than those of us who believe in a traditional Judeo-Christian ethos; then finally tell them that their religion is evil, that their opposition has finally awakened, that they are now in a real fight, and that they should be afraid, very, very afraid.
All of this reminds me of that scene in the movie “Jaws” where the town mayor objects to any suggestion that the killer shark might still be off shore, waiting to strike again. The oceanographer responds “I’m not going to waste time talking to someone who’s lining up to be a hot lunch.” At what point do people finally admit to themselves that facing reality is a lot less dangerous than denying it?
Thanks for your reply.
The point you make is certainly true-I can’t quibble with it. Obviously,there are notable people who have invested careers(lifetimes) in the belief they are instrumental in guiding the great unwashed to the light for a better tomorrow-even though they have no plans for participating in this equality of results.
Still,were many of these folks actually aware of the incompatibility of Islam with Western Civilization when they made this commitment to progressivism back in the day ? My guess is that it wasn’t factured into the equation by most of these self-appointed elitists,here or in Europe,even after the Iranian Revolution. Islam was considered contained in the back waters of the world.
No, I don’t believe they anticipated the march of Islam, Sharia law- all the implications and what impact it would have. IOW, a spanner was thrown into the works and they are all scrambling now to fit their square peg into this circle they constructed. Yeah,I think they are fearful-on several levels.
Israel is their tool in the negotiation box. Right now, it looks like their only out in the mess they have/are creating.
It looks like we might be getting, if our betters allow it, a Fox-type news channel, in Canada. This morning, CTV had, scrolling across the Newsworld screen, a little blurb about an investigation into Israels “attack” upon a Turkish “aid” convoy bound for Gaza. They wonder why people are fed up with the leftward tilt?
Interestingly enough, last weeek, CBC held a poll on their website asking if people would watch such a channel. 74% of people said “Yes”. Comments from so-called liberals didn’t stop at “No, I wouldn’t watch it” but always went to no one shouldn’t be able to watch it. It shouldn’t be allowed. Frightening.
They are destroying themselves, but Israel has nothing to do with it. Political correctness, the false prophet Al Gore and his religion of Glo-bull warming, combined with Progressive, Marxist, Socialist agenda… has killed them… and as they say down South… they (the Leftist media) needed killing.
It’s about time… they’re propagandists not journalists.
Being born in the 30s, I think the biggest mistake the Germans made in their rise to power was the persecution of the Jews. Had they used the talents of their Jewish citizens, they would have easily conquered the world. Just imagine Einstein giving the Nazi salute.
Had they even established a reputation for Jewish forbearance, the Ukraine might have gone over with no German in the fight. Not Poland without Germans in the fight, but not all that long a shot for the Ukraine.
Then again, keep in mind that the overwhelming support for the rapid re-militarization of Germany was driven by the sense of betrayal many Germans and Austrians felt over their losing WWI. They never accepted that they lost WWI at the truly visceral level they felt at the end of WWII. Without the polarizing effects of the Jewish persecution and the subsequent transferal of culpability for the WWI betrayal to Jewish influence it allowed, National Socialism might have died on the vine in Germany. WWII might have started five years earlier or later with a Russian drive through Poland into a democratic Wiemar Republic, rather than the other way around.
It wasn’t a mistake, it was a feature. Germany didn’t lose the war because it failed to harness Jewish talent; it went to war as the only way to get its people to commit to the total war against the Jews. This was Hitler’s deepest obsession: he could never have imagined a “1000 year Reich” with a successful Jewish presence.
I keep on hearing from Arabists that they have their own sources that leave them to believe otherwise concerning the Mavi Marmara. I have not seen these sources yet. Perhaps they were referring to the doctored Reuters photos? What is the argument? I’m sure they will come up with one… I’m still waiting. They did it to the WTC on 911… I’m sure they have experts working on a revision right now.
You are probably right, but it also may be seen the opposite way:
post modern society which lost reality sence, feed with fictional researches not connected to facts or logics, become ignorant mob middle age style, accessible to antisemitic excitement.
Are the media really destroying themselves, or are they succeeding in brainwashing the public with a frightening efficiency? Sure, the anti-Israel propaganda machine has no credibility with those few of us who know better, ourselves, as supporters of Israel, targets of the same propaganda machine. I don’t see any silver linings in the increasing shamelessness with which these obscene lies about Israel are being propagated by the likes of CNN, BBC, Reuters. We in the West have to speak up in Israel’s defense loudly and unrelentingly-while it is still legal. This is no joke. As the Muslim world continues to turn up the heat in its murderous anti-Israel Jihad, and the atmosphere in the “civilized” West becomes more frankly judaeophobic, Jews living in the diaspora will find it useful to recall the advise given to the hunted and pogromed Jews of Russia by that great leader of Zionism, Vladimir Ze’ev Jabotinsky: learn to shoot!
European antagonism toward the Jews is a product of hundreds of years of indoctrination-to regard Jews as the ultimate evil, as _the enemy_. This hatred is wide and deep, and its surface manifestations can only temporarily be supressed; it always lurks within the Western subconscious. And the West, having been over the past 500 years the greatest and most influential civilization in world history, has done much to spread its most ingrained prejudices beyond its borders, to the rest of the world. Hence the antisemitism of places such as Japan and Latin America. If Israel were to disappear today, tomorrow Jews would be attacked for having it too good economically, for not doing enough to improve the condition of the needy. There would be demands for laws against hiring too many Jews. It has no end.
Stan- I’m not sure what planet you have been on- but Jew hatred has roots in REAL LIVE events.
ethnocentric activism.
over representation in all power slots
crypsis – to advance ethnocentric concentration of power.
there are more Mormons than Jews in America. If every Jew in the US Government and media were self evident Mormons – there would be round the clock antagonism between the Later Day Saints and the rest of us.
Nobody would allow such power to be concentrated in the hands of one sliver of Americana. Why is it so hard for you to understand the anger of gentiles who just want a fair shake?
I don’t want laws to limit the number of Jews in power – but I think the over representation of Jews in power should not be a secret – or politically incorrect to address.
Jews want it both ways. You want concentration of power for your own – without any discussion of how you achieved such a stranglehold on these power slots.
sorry… it don’t work that way.
THAT is why Jew hatred is underground… and looking for any and all reasons to surface.
And so I agree with you.
But this isn’t confined to the left. The Perotistas and Buchanan wing of the old GOP – now known as the Tea Party is extremely anti semitic – if only in the privacy of their own homes and families.
ethnocentric activism?
Marks, why don’t you can the b.s. and recognize that Jewish success reflects the suitability of Jewish culture for success in the modern world? Why don’t you start talking about how antisemitism is a recipe for failure, and look a little harder at yourself? If you really cared about those on the outside of centers of power you wouldn’t be blaming the generally liberal Jews for some non-existent conspiracy but asking how can we do the very difficult: getting people to see the limits of less successful cultures and adopting the traits of those that work in the modern economy. One should be proud of what works; what kind of nut isn’t?
Don’t agree. First of all your premise is wrong — on what basis do the Juice have over-representation of power in the USA? Count noses — and you will find this is a myth. But it is true that the Joos have been fairly successful — and this is CULTURAL! Why are, by and large, inner city blacks not successful? Culture. Why are Mormons and Jews fairly successful? Culture. Same thing is true of most of the Asians that come over to the USA — and that includes the Indians. Culture.
GM finally admits it. He hates Jews because they are more successful than he is.
No “qualifications” are needed to discuss The Middle East. Agree or disagree with Tony Judt, Barry Rubin, whomever. Calling for credentials means you don’t have much faith in your argument.
Ok Helen and Rosie, lets have the Israelis with German ancestry go back to Germany, and those with Polish ancestry to Poland. But what about those from Iran, Syria, Iraq, Libya,Palestine?
And while we are at it. Let’s have those Americans, Australians, Argentinians, Brazilians, South Africans, whose ancestors came from Europe go back there as well. Heck, since we are all out of Africa, let’s all go back! Helen and Rosie first.
I am convinced that this play is nearing the final scene and the author is near to walking to the front of the stage as the curtain comes down. Not to take a bow however. The Last Days are here obviously. Man’s sin has reached full bloom and the harvest of compliant souls is ripe. The earth shall be cleansed.
It is also abundantly clear that evil on this earth has a conductor driving the orchestra. It is interesting that the Jews are always in peril when the darkness threatens to swallow up the light. As it is critically important that now … in the year 2010 a tiny country along the eastern shore of the Mediterranean is once again central in all the worlds politics.
If you believe this is simply coincidental you probably have no soul.
To truepeers…
#1 – I am self employed, college educated and never considered my self a victim of Jewish conspiracies.
That said, I did sit on the planning and zoning board in a Ski town and watched Jews collude with other Jews to increase the value of their holdings, while destroying the holdings of their gentile neighbors.
The only real estate scams I ever witnessed were in that same over heated ski town market – wherein a pair of Jews would approach a seller – purchase a home for cash – the only requirement being that one of the Jews collect a real estate commission for the sale.. and the other be paid for drawing up the papers.
Immediately upon closing, said Jews hired contractors to begin filing reports on substandard construction, hidden problems… bottom line? — said Jews played this scam on a half dozen unsuspecting homeowners.. half of whom just let em keep the commission [which in that market was sometimes 30 40 thousand dollars]… and the other half had to hire attorneys to defend against the charge of defrauding the buyer. [Oh, this is where the talents of the Jewish lawyer on this tag team earned his keep]
Now this pair hit 3 towns in my state and were quite notorious by the time they came on my radar screen… and the disappeared to Lake Tahoe last time I heard of them… the scam only works until buyers find out about the previous purchases and subsequent law suits.
Now I know this a limited pool of information from which to indict an ‘entire culture’ — not unlike what we see done to Muslims every day in our news cycles..
But it was enough for me to see the ethnocentric bonds… and the subsequent sympathetic Jewish judges… and or newspaper owners… to get the drift of the game being played on the rest of us.
Add this to all the Cohens whose name changed to Connor… Goldmans to Green… and, without the benefit of yellow stars… the public pretty much victim to an ethnocentric war pretty much spelled out in the Talmud.
You know the Talmud – no? — If I quote it, the quote will be censored… THAT is how controversial the instruction is.. and always has been.
So THIS goy… is just operating without blinders. That’s my crime?
I’m not making excuses for Ayn Rand’s “savages of Africa, who resent the fact that we have produced it while they have not!”
I’m saying the game is fixed lots of times… and by ethnocentric schemes.
IT’s a given in Hollywood. And what are the chances that all our ball clubs and race tracks are pretty much owned by 2% of the population???
Basketball teams, baseball teams, football – not to mention [is it?] 30 US senators??? and who knows how many congressmen… all gleaned from 2% of the population….
but I digress…
let’s get back to if those senators and congressmen and ball club owners, TV and radio station owners were all Mormons??? — Jews never address that initial comparison before they start slinging the scarlet A around.
Address the question… would America stand for that many Mormons in government, media and hollywood? — you know we would not.
stuff and nonsense. If every Mormon in the country decided to suddenly go into public service, it wouldn’t bother me a bit. I am impressed, though; you managed to find two Jewish men who were dishonest… I reckon that proves your point. :-\
Jews tend to be scholars, and pursue careers that involve getting a higher education. Our highest status comes from wisdom and learning, not athletic achievement and accumulation of wealth — so is it any wonder that we tend to end up as executives (but not necessarily owners) of banks, as vice-presidents of corporations, as attorneys and doctors? (I am sure you can find some kind of evil intent in our over-representation in the medical field too, right?) If you want to find out where we developed that pathway to scholarship, one of the places you can look is medeival European law, where we were banned from so many jobs we kind of had to work in the few fields that were left.
And of course, it is always easier to blame the Jews who loaned you money or did work for you and are owed wages than to actually pay what you owe, eh?
So much paranoia, so little brain power.
“#1 – I am self employed, college educated and never considered my self a victim of Jewish conspiracies.
That said, I did sit on the planning and zoning board in a Ski town and watched Jews collude with other Jews to increase the value of their holdings, while destroying the holdings of their gentile neighbors.”
You contradict yourself right here in the first paragraph – you “never considered yourself a victim” and then go on to describe how da Joooos screwed all the gentiles, of which you are one.
That is why Jews have lasted for 4000 years. It’s not that we’re so great, it’s just that antisemites always turn out to be morons and losers.
“If, for example, negative things are reported about Muslims, third-world countries, or enemies of the United States — the reasoning goes — Americans might go into the streets and massacre Muslims or advocate wars.”
OMG! Finally a fact! Best not to stoke the folks with facts according to our MSM minders. “Radicals”, “insurgents” and “rebels” are to blame but their religions are never revealed. Never mind the fact 95% of violence is inflicted by Muslims, worldwide.
The melding of marxism and mohammedanism.
Blending the godless with the ungodly.
Aided and abetted by those morally challenged
Useful Idiots like: Galloway, Ryan, Finkelstein,
O’Keefe, Chomsky, Klein, Briemberger, Colbourne, etc.
Do you know that Audrey Bomse (rhymes with momser)
is spitting mad at the IHH pit-bull attactivists
for helping destroy the illusion of an ‘aid’ convoy.
Who needs 600 ‘volunteers’ (human shields?)on a ship without cargo?
Don’t you think there is something Biblical about all this? Attack the people of God and you shall reap the whirlwind. I love it.
The liberal leftists who inhabit the academic and media worlds, those morally superior beings, are so intoxicated with their own wonderfulness they believe they can, with impunity, side with those whose goal is the destruction of Israel.
Despite the declared aims of Hamas, Iran and many other state actors to eliminate Israel our leftist idiot friends think it is all quite benign to support for example, the Free Gaza peace activists.
A new Jewish hatred has morphed from the old and is loose in the streets.
We are living in complicated times and trying to find complicated solutions…to no avail. Socialists will crumble when “income,redistributed” is reported the same as REAL income. 1099-GOV. Freedom wil reign when we REQUIRE all those that suck U.S. tax dollars to embrace the First Amendment, Second Amendment, and Article I, section 2 [ http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A1Sec2 ] (so the tax man NEVER stays past two (2) years if he’s corrupt). Spending $2 Billion on Egypt’s crushing the Copts and bashing the Israelies is $2 Billion toooooo much. $900 Miilion to Gaza for…suicide bombs? Sometimes the best solutions are the simplest.