Meddling: White House Wants Britain To Stay in European Union
Staying in the EU would likely mean eventually joining the slow-motion car crash that is the eurozone, the group of countries that have adopted the euro. That’s unlikely to happen in the near future, and certainly won’t happen under a Conservative-led government — the wishes of the Tories’ current coalition partners, the left-leaning Liberal Democrats, notwithstanding.
It’s not just that much of Europe is an economic basket case — although the news that the unemployment rate in Greece has just hit 26.8%, the highest figure ever recorded by an EU member state, is a timely reminder of the way things are heading. Americans might want to mull some of the indignities Britain has suffered as the result of EU membership and will continue to suffer if it stays in.
Imagine that Brazilian trawlers were given the same rights to fish in U.S. waters off the coast of New England as boats from Gloucester and New Bedford, and you’ll have some understanding of the EU’s Common Fisheries Policy, which has led to the decline of the UK’s fishing industry and the collapse of fish stocks.
Or picture a court based in Ottawa on which sit judges from Venezuela, Bolivia, and Colombia, and which has the power to order those U.S. states who don’t currently do so to grant voting rights to convicted criminals. Or to prevent American courts from deporting criminals and extraditing terror suspects. Behold the European Court of Human Rights, which John Bolton has called “an infringement on British sovereignty.”
Or imagine that 29 million Mexicans were tomorrow given the right to live and work unrestricted in the U.S., and to take full advantage of Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, and schooling. That is the prospect facing Britain when the citizens of economically backward, high-unemployment Bulgaria and Romania gain the right to live and work unrestricted in Britain under the EU’s “freedom of movement” rules a little under a year from now.
Of course, none of those British complaints are going to cut much ice with the Obama administration. The president’s enthusiasm for the EU is largely ideological; on issues ranging from immigration to the treatment of prisoners, his instincts are those of the European left. The days when American leaders supported closer European integration out of genuine national interest when Western Europe was a bulwark against Soviet expansion are long gone.
For those who conceived it, the European project has from the outset been about concentrating power in the hands of a technocratic elite that has become increasingly unaccountable to national governments and their citizens. It is an impulse shared by Obama and his fellow statists. In some respects Britain’s relationship with the EU is analogous to that of the U.S. states’ relationship to the federal government.
Of course Obama wants this, because he wants see every single country in Europe ruin itself, like he is ruining the USA
And unfortunatelym us here in Israel also.
You betcha!
From this article: “the topic within Britain is not whether British membership in the EU is in America’s interest, but whether it is in their own”
Well, as has been reported by Jeff Goldberg: “In the weeks after the UN vote, Obama said privately and repeatedly, ‘Israel doesn’t know what its own best interests are.’”
So it would be natural to conclude that Obama best knows what is in Britain’s interest.
A hundred years ago, the Progressives began their long march to destroy this country by dismantling its institutions brick by brick. They have now achieved victory beyond their wildest dreams. What needs to happen next is for those who were left behind, who lament the loss of the Constitutional Republic of old, who refuse to become chattel slaves to the new Leviathan state, to begin the process of nullification and secession to rebuild what was stolen from us in those enclaves in the country where the Marxocrats have not yet reached full political dominance. We need to recognize that the USA that we knew and loved is gone for all time. We need to disabuse ourselves of any notion that we can somehow “fix” what can never be made right again. The differences between the “blue” states and the “red” states are to monumental to ever be reconciled. Breaking the country up into autonomous regions is the wave of the future. Embrace the concept! Work to make it happen! Secede!
Blackelkspeaks the truth. Let us couple his comments with the fact that USA is suffering from problems of scale. 330 million people managed down to their toilet tank size by the hegemony in DC has begun to reveal flaws in design. Whether the culprit is the loss of the frontier spirit, loss of a common language/culture, loss of exceptionalism the lumpen masses will not self regulate. Americans cannot be governed by the systems of a distant central authority too sluggish to respond effectively to the needs of the villagers. We need a nimble diffuse government; like those found in cities and states. Where redress is direct and every citizen feels involved. The federal government is only there to protect our liberty, provide common defense, coin money, handle interstate commerce.
Washington needs to reboot with only the bare bones federalism DOS running. That would be the Bill of Rights. However rebooting requires a complete shutdown which itself requires revolution.
“Washington needs to reboot with only the bare bones federalism DOS running.”
Great metaphor. We have become exactly like a poorly managed, virus-laden laptop with an out-of date motherboard and too little main memory. Unnecessary or malicious processes running everywhere, registry errors, corrupted drivers, spyware, system processes hogging all of the cycles and memory, loss of user autonomy and privacy. Even control-alt-delete gets you nowhere. Time for selective back-up of certain information, erase all memory and storage, re-install original 1776 OS.
If is absolute folly to pursue the goal of a unified, centralized, over-arching Leviathan state in any form where the traditions, predilections, and cultures of the individual umembers are extremely different. There was never any possibility that the Europeans would become one superstate, given their differences. It is now the case that the USA can no longer continue to be unified for the same reasons.
There is a move afoot in both the EU and the UN to push the US and the EU countries to emulate the Nordic Model and become what is being called now Human Resource States instead of welfare states. Analyzing global education policies, tracking all these CAGW reports and Paul Ehrlich’s Millenium Alliance for Humanity and the Biosphere, following the Future Earth Alliance documents, and the 2012 UN World Happiness Reports ALL bring us to the same unworkable vision of a NEW kind of capitalism. Oh, and a positive view of government and the planning, partnering role it can play.
It may seem pie in the sky to us but it is quite real. We are being taken there by Big Business and these trillion dollar budgets being spent on creating a class determined to implement on this basis. In education, the UK is actually further along than the Continent or the US.
The future model that the EU is driving for is that futures can be envisioned, planned for, and implemented. We have the local and regional (usually based on watersheds) and the global. Countries are supposed to be falling away in the 21st century. With Obama’s fondness for the UN, he certainly got the memo.
He’s just trying to remind Cameron he did too.
Makes sense. As present leader of the multicultural international progressives he could do no less than “keep the faith” with erstwhile International Brigades.
ALL with the same aim to CHANGE the political culture into one controlled by a Central Committee/Commissariate of self-sppointed, self-propagating incestuous “elite”. With no need to apply to citizens – the rabble – for their “powers over the people”. All “for the good of those People” or is it the workers?
Extension of his open mike comments in Russia reported as “after the election I can be more flexible”?
That election – 2012 – has come and gone. Despite evidence that his use of the powers of the people lent to him as deliberately destructive, Americans elected him again. Giving him carte blanche to whatever CHANGES he HOPES to continue to make to further his “Dream From The Fathers” of an over-arching government control over life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of free Americans.
Thereby nurturing his developing megalomania. The belief that he is truly the Messiah?
Are there any of the “honourable” members of Legislature or Judiciary prepared to step up and do their contracted job to uphold and DEFEND the Constitution of the USA?
Remove him for the treatment he so clearly needs?
“…….Americans elected him again.”
Just some Americans, even though it was a little more than 50% of voters. The GOP refuses to cite that statistic in resisting Obama’s policies. But Obama acts as if he got 100% of the vote. That’s one of the problems with the GOP. They constantly need to remind the media and the voters that they represent the 48% that did not vote for Obama.
Of course you’re correct to emphasise that statistic.
All the more reason that the republicans who are supposed to represent their constituents actually represent them.
Too much to expect people chosen to an elite, very privileged and honourable job to do anything that would endanger their jobs? Make them unpopular with the big boys on the block, big men on campus?
Nevertheless it is their job to represent. In America, Not the Soviet Union or Europe, Africa, Asia or the United Nations. If they do not do that job but instead go along to get along, it is the responsibility of those who hired them – that’s you and me and others like us – to demand, to discipline them that they do the job or lose the job.
Make them understand their jobs are on the line every bit as much as those electors in the population whose jobs are either on the line or already lost because of their unwillingness to fight for them. Their abject willingness to go along to get along, not rock the boat, not make waves.
Only when those who elected them do their job – demand in voices loud and clear that they do the job they were hired to do or lose that job and all its perks – can we expect them to do that job. They have voluntarily contracted by freely taken oath to We The People. Nobody forced them to become Congressmen. We The People means ALL Americans not only the ravening gangs of the big boys on the block.
Americans have until recently been willng to fight for what they valued, including their freedoms from government interference in their life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Real politic be damned.
Actually, it was 49.4%
The US media went to town over Romney’s comments about the Olympics in London. Why is there no similar response to the White House comments about UK membership of the EU? I am no Romney fan but am sure there would have been a very different election outcome had the media eagerly sought to expose all the weaknesses and blunders of both candidates and parties.
Because regardless of whom the Republicans nominated, the media was out to push the narrative that he or she was a clueless dolt. The media is out to push the narrative that Obama is a brilliant leader. No matter that Obama has done worse, in terms of insulting our great ally Great Britain, than Romney’s observations on certain aspects of how the Olympics were being run (a subject on which he actually has experience). Remember Obama removing a treasured bust of Churchill, and giving the Queen some cheap, self-promoting gifts?
All together now: “Oh, THAT liberal media!”
Since Obama heartily dislikes the UK, any advice he gives them is suspect (even more than normal Obama advice).
We Americans [those who didn't vote for our chameleon-Obama] vastly underestimate the extent of Obama’s colonial African seething resentment against England. I single out England because it’s unlikely that Wales, Scotland or Ireland figured much on Obama’s father’s side of this continuous and rather nebulous story enhanced by our “affirmative action” influences. [cf: his schooling after that apparently Muslim childhood....] How superficially cosmopolitan Obama is; all facade over nourished hatred.
The advice Obama is proffering England is a form of twisting that old Lion’s tail, that old Lion now counting how many claws haven’t yet been pulled out.
Remember that his father was a Kenyan. [?]…that question mark is a reminder for all that so much of Obama’s family history and childhood remain pretty cloudy and have contributed to the American “gettin’-even” “romance” of electing a half-Black half-White person as our president. This romantic “attitude” is also characteristic of his constituency, which also has an entrenched entitlement/reparations attitude just itchin’ for benefits financed by others’ cash.
This will be read as pretty harsh stuff….of course it will….but we Americans need to be shaken from our refusal to recognize that our country as we’ve known it since the Great Depression and Post World War II is “over’.
So, we American have indeed “affirmative-actioned” ourselves into a big fat circular socialistic decline, and no body, nooo body can say what will happen when “other peoples’ money” runs out.
That “trillion dollar platinum coin” idea resuscitated?….a helluva mess, Dear Readers.
If, and that’s a big if, anyone is going to be doing any leaving… It’ll probably be Scotland… from the U.K.
This article makes me happy. Remember when that Brit comic begging us to vote during the Oscars in 2004 i think it was? Ha.Ha.Ha. Got what he wanted.
Th Eu is a SOVIET COLLECTIVE. Of course the Commie in the WH commands the British people do his bidding. Our 44th “president” is a man out of his true element. He should be a blood thirsty caudillo of some violent African “country”, ordering the hacking up of other tribe members and lighting tires to hand ’round the necks of his enemies. He truly is a type that belongs elsewhere in the world and not here. He really is a product of his upbringing and his GENES. Culture matters and we are seeing it in living color. He is a banana republic wannabe dictator, frustrated that we still have the remnants of a Constitution in America. He is more African than American. With the added bonus of all those black man grievances to rely upon.
“He is a banana republic wannabe dictator, frustrated that we still have the remnants of a Constitution in America.”
I think it is much simpler than that. He learned his politics in Chicago, Il, the most politically-corrupt city in the most politically-corrupt state in the U.S. The politics in Chicago have been dominated by Democrats since time immemorial. That’s what his plans are for the Federal Government of the United States.
The best thing the UK could do for itself , after outlawing Islam, is to quit the EU,
..can you explain why? and wouldn’t this be true for all states to “quit” the USA?
Maybe The Queen should send that Ipod back
best read of the week:
“Messing with the monarchy: the proposed reforms reflect politicians’ arrogance”
By Andrew Roberts
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/9797480/Messing-with-the-monarchy-the-proposed-reforms-reflect-politicians-arrogance.html
“…in the United Kingdom, the Government is proposing nothing less than the possibility that in time, Britain should no longer be a Protestant country, as judged by the criterion of the monarch’s religious observance. The British people have not been asked in any party’s general election manifesto about this massive and fundamental change. Mere opinion-polling has been deemed enough, along with Nick Clegg’s intoning in Parliament that the new Bill “is compatible with the European Convention on Human Rights”. …”
[it gets better]
My advicefor the UK, FWIW, is to distrust and ignore nearly everything Barack Obama has to say on the matter.
The American World State has spoken through its god president. no opposition is allowed. All must bow to the American Reich.
The EU has accomplished absolutely nothing of benefit for europeans. Since Obama believes in the bigger is better for government it comes as no surprise that he is in favor of the EU. Big, stupid, bureaucratic, monolithic, incompetent, inefficient and heavily in debt. Just the way he wants the USA to become.
Now the British want Obama to stay out of their politics?
They should have thought of that before they elected him.
Strange comment.
It was the Americans who voted for the man.
You can’t recognize sarcasm when you read it? Back in 2008 Obama was very popular in Britain, as in the rest of the EU.
They also jonesed for him in 12. Their papers ran one negative Romney story after another and anybody who critisized teh won was a racist.
“It’s inconceivable that Gordon’s remarks weren’t approved by President Obama, given the timing and Gordon’s seniority.”
No, it’s quite conceivable. Although I’m sure any smothering bureaucracy warms Mr. Obama’s cockles.
I’ve got an idea. Let’s mind our own business and put our own house in financial and regualtory order before we try telling others what they shoud do.
That sounds like a great idea.
Sorry, but I can’t work up any ire on behalf of our erstwhile allies over St. Barack the Magnificent’s meddling in British affairs. The Brits have spent decades telling us what dumb, parochial warmongers we benighted Americans are (anyone remember the nuclear freeze movement from the 1980s). Now they seem to be upset that their precious Barack is interfering in their sovereignty? As the kids say these days, “Tough, you bought it, now own it.”
What do you call U.S meddling in Northern Ireland? For over 30yrs the U.S financially and politically supported the IRA,a terrorist group who blew up British and Irish civilians.
America allowed known I.R.A terrorists to fund raise against the Governments request.Refused extradition for wanted/escaped convicted terrorist’s,giving them political status saying they wouldn’t/didn’t get a fair trial,even naming streets after them.
Carter even refused Thatcher’s request for guns to arm the RUC-the police force of N.Ireland by refusing to recognise them.
Peter King, one of the biggest supporter even recently he claimed his action’s were fine because the I.R.A didn’t kill American’s.
This is meddling.
1) Equating the actions of private citizens (whose actions in supporting the IRA I disagree with) with governmental action is comparing apples and oranges.
2) Perhaps if the British hadn’t terrorized Ireland for over four hundred years prior to the 20th century and starved / slaughtered its Catholic population like cattle, there might not have been an IRB/IRA to respond to British imperialism.
Just a thought.
What century are you in over there?
Even George Bush said said that there is no difference between the terrorist’s and those governments that allow or turn a blind eye to it.
It was the U.S government that issued visa’s ,it was them that took the IRA off the terrorist list to allow fund raising.It was the government that invited IRA/Sinnfein to the Whitehouse,it was the government that wouldn’t shut down NORAID…………….
Are you really saying that because of events 400yrs ago that justifies terrorism today.
By the way ,the IRA of hundreds of years ago bears no resemblance to what has been funded in the last 40yrs.
They don’t represent the Irish people in the Republic,you are condoning awful act’s that the Irish are condemning.
Members of the Irish government wouldn’t attend a St Patrick Day parade in New York because Peter King was leading it.
No matter what,it is still meddling in British and Irish domestic policy that has nothing to do with the U.S,the charge Larry accuses us of.
Careful Larry, your bigotry is showing….
Careful Larry, your bigotry is showing…..
Careful C H, your redundancy is showing.
That’s a filthy lie and you know it!
If it’s teddy kennedy (may he burn in hell forever) you’re talking about, he also committed treason and was in cahoots with the USSR (giving them material intelligence) during the Reagan presidency.
Point scored.
But, we must overlook, at least try to, these Anglo-familial differences since 1607 and remember that we yet again need to stand together…..this time against the encroaching, infiltrating, penetrating Muslims.
We’re involved in yet another literal World War, this time against the Muslims. Mali is just the latest eruption. That’s the French side of this old colonial problem surfacing in the form of a Muslim rebellion against all of Western Civilization. At long last the French are aroused. We need them also in their former Mandated protectorate of Syria….but that’s another subject.
The Brits have, it must be recognized, have however reluctantly sent a proportionally adjusted size of their armed men to help us Americans in that former colonial area of theirs divided up by the Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916. Look at that map via Captain Google.
Yes, indeed, it’s been a century ago since we Americans reluctantly entered World War I on the side of the Brits and French. Then came World War Two….again….then that Marshall Plan ….any one remember that? Remember deGaulle wanting all Americans out of France in the 1960′s?
So this emphasizes (again) why we don’t need our petty-half-Kenyan-Obama returning that bust of Winston Churchill and twisting the rather frayed tail of the old British lion. We need each other, and we need to bury our very real frictions to fight our Muslim enemy of the 21st Cent.
As mentioned above, we’re in a helluva mess.
Just plain weird
Anyone with any degree of awareness and/or the ability to think things through about the likely consequences of such a “union” saw this coming.As many, many, many people commeted on PRIOR to joining.
Naturally the Left was caught utterly unaware/with thier pants down when realty failed to conform to their pre-conceived notions of how the EU “should” work.
It is not a question of “if” the EU is going to fragment–its only a question of “when” and how much damage is going to be done until that point.
Also not all that surprising that President Obama is in favor of another system that really does not work, is rife with abuse of its members, is transferring massive amounts of money from productive members to “takers”, is eroding the individual soverntry (sp) of its members, is uninterested in individual “rights” in the face of a third-part determined “greater good,” with a poor grasp of basic economics ie. pushes the Keyensian model to the “Nth” degree.
I really don’t see the USA breaking up in the same fashion–its more likely that the States that practice “little EU” style management will contiune to decline while the States that don’t will keep growing–eventually the “little EU’s” will collapse under their own weight. They will of course keep taking money from the pockets of the successful States until the successful States turn off the tap.
Lets face it CA could not survive without massive transfers of wealth from other States–sooner or later, the other States are going to simply say “no.” Then what are going to do?
Just like what is currently happing in the EU.
Oh, I expect the freeloaders will self-deport. Barely half of California’s population was born here. All those locusts from the other 57 states who moved to California when times were good are the cousins of the Texans, Coloradans, Georgians, etc. who fear a post-crash invasion of moochers from California.
I am not sure if CA is net positive or net negative in the Federal game of “give me your money so I can control you with it”. We seem to have no problem just borrowing to paper over our profligate spending. However, we do have over 33% of the nations welfare recipients (versus 10% of the population)and I doubt that we grew them all here. Not saying it isn’t our fault since we seem to approach entitlement programs like the private sector does business development – complete with advertising and marketing campaigns. We also have better weather and more comfortable park benches.
Cameron is being as disingenuous as Obama is. He wants the benefits of being in the EU; he just doesn’t want Brussels telling him, or his cronies, how to run the UK.
By the same token, he isn’t about to let the British people have an “up/down” vote on it, either. That might mean them telling him, “Kiss the EU goodbye”, and that wouldn’t sit well with his allies on the left, as stated above.
My guess is that Obama is trying to give Cameron cover for what he intends to do anyway. Namely, get a few functionally-meaningless “concessions” from Brussels, and agree to full participation. After which he tells the British people, “It was the best deal I could get.”
Which keeps him and his set in power. Which is all any of them really care about, anyway.
The biggest losers will be the PIIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, and Spain). They’re anticipating Brussels announcing that an “equitable redistribution of assets” will give them a license to loot the British treasury along with a few others.
They forget that Britain set out on its quest for a socialist “Great Society” over sixty years ago, right after World War Two. With both major parties participating no matter which one was in No. 10 Downing Street at any given time. Rather like the MacDonald/Baldwin/Chamberlain game of “musical PMs” played there in the years before the Second World War. Policies remained the same, only the “justifications” differed.
Which means that when they open the British treasury, instead of what they dream of, they’re apt to find an IOU signed Harold MacMillan, and cosigned by Harold Wilson, James Callaghan, and Tony Blair.
Along with a used cigar butt. Cuban, of course.
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You have given some examples of what an American version of the EU would be like… But I think we already have had a taste… I am sure the founding fathers never intended the federal to have so much power over things like abortion, marriage, education, guns, etc. These were all meant to be left to each state to decide individually.
I believe Obama’s dream is to have the United State run by an “executive council” rather like the EU council in Brussels, with the power to hand down mandates unilaterally. Said council would of course consist of the “smart, sophisticated people”, like himself, and it leader would be … well, himself.
In fact, this is a fair definition of Obama and his “tsars”, except to date, they have not had the absolute power he apparently craves.
But they’re working on it.
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It would seem that the British are getting a taste of what they were serving to colonial America and they don’t like it. Bully for the Brits. Is it possible that liberals have over reached and people the world over are getting fed up with being told how to live by people who have no idea real life is about?
I often told supporters of the E.U.;” Take out a map of Europe. See all those lines on it showing borders? They’re there for a reason”. Too many cultural differences exist for Europe to have a centralized government.
Simply put- Obama is overreaching in all matters British. Obama has also asked Germany’s Merkel (Chancellor) to put in forcefully. Eurozone should be a five alarm fire danger – GB luckily is not in Eurozone monetary policy. When Brussels tells all the members what they are allowed to do- i.e. fishing rights, Schengen,how to label goods for sale, how to conduct their own laws and statutes to align with EU- how to make sure they abide by EU/Brussels dicta that is not in any national interest one gets the underlying problems. Obama thinks also (and Secr. of State HRC) forcefully are trying to get Turkey into EU (Obama’s Trojan Horse). Obama’s interests are not Great Britain’s interest-period,
Is there a way out?
What recourse do citizens really have?
If we want our country back by force if necessary; how do you do it?
Do we have someone go to the SCOTUS; the Joint Chiefs?
I am totally serious. In a couple of decades if we just can’t take it anymore-what do we do?
Seems pretty bleak if it is true we have already rounded the bend.
The process of nullification and secession is not some impossible fantasy. The key is to elect representatives that have the courage to refuse to implement the unlawful and illegitimate rules, regulations, and edicts forced on the states by a criminal federal government that has been allowed to operate beyond any proscribed constitutional limits for far too long.
Read: “Nullification” by Thomas E. Woods, Jr.
Armchair freedom fighting is easy and fun. Real civil disobedience is hard. And since those of us who object to this direction are by and large still pretty comfortable, revolution of any kind has a snowball’s chance in hell. Perhaps “virtual revolt” might work. Oops – I think that’s what the Tea Party was and we saw how well that worked.
Well, armchair revolution sure as hell worked for the Marxocrats, didn’t it? They’ve wiped out every vestige of freedom and liberty left in this country without firing a shot. How’s about we stop whining about their victory and start a serious pushback of our own. If you don’t think it can be done, then stay the hell out of it. You probably will anyway.
So what happens if the UK does extricate themselves out of the EU, will Obama authorize an invasion?
They just laugh at him. Europe thinks of B.H.O.D as the joke of the month.
Brilliant post Mike!
My father’s mother immigrated from England, I am a retired Submariner and an unabashed Anglophile. While I like most Brits I’ve met, and appreciate both our cultural similarities (which have been crucial to our success over time) and our differences . . .
plain fact is that British foreign policy needs to be made by and for Brits.
We Yanks have made it clear a(t least a) couple times that we insist that others do not control our destiny . . . it is *very* poor form to suggest to others that we (or any individual in our gov’t) better understand British interests than Brits.
Very Best Regards,
There are some good articles about the EU at ecofascism.com
I don’t think this US President’s opinion carries much weight in the UK, or the EU, or anywhere else any more.
Kinda sad really.
If Brits had a sense of humor, Cameron would leak at a high level that the plebiscite may have to involve more than one vote as the first vote may call for later votes. For example, if leaving the EU is supported, then what would be the next step?
Then leak at a lower and peripheral level that subsequent plebiscite questions would be such as: Leave the EU and join NAFTA; leave the EU and become a Category IV US Territory; or just leave the EU.
The USURPER’s aim is a Socialist World Government with HIM of course as its leader. He sees the Socialist EU as a convenient step along that road which of course is why he wants UK to remain part of it.
That other European Socialist Leader Adolph Hitler and his National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party (AKA the NAZIs) also had a plan for a post war Europe. It was to be a Union of Socialist Nation States controlled both FINANCIALLY and POLITICALLY by Germany.
And that Ladies and Gentlemen is the EU in a nutshell.
If obama wants the UK to stay in the EU it’s because he wants her destroyed.
Obama hates England and her people and would do anything to undermine her. I actually think obama hates England (and the English) worse than he hates us (the US and Americans) and THAT is saying something!
You have that right, Lolly.
my suggestion to mr. cameron is that he tell both obama and the european union to bugger off.
I wonder what Nigel Farage (the leader of UKIP) has to say about these arrogant Americans?
He has a habit of being very outspoken on the subject of Britain leaving the EU.
Obama doesn’t know how to govern his own Country, and now he wants to meddle in the affairs of other countries ? Just shows his arrogance. America is a laughing stock because of his Socialistic so-called governing. Pravda even wrote an article about him. He was put into office a second time by a brain dead electorate. Most of them on the dole. May Heaven protect us from this man and all his czars.