Massive Voting Fraud Reported in Massachusetts
…General Law chapter 54, section 65 prohibits within 150 feet of a polling location, among other things, the posting, exhibition, circulation, or distribution of material — including pasters, stickers, posters, cards, handbills, placards, pictures or circulars — intended to influence the action of the voter. G. L. 54, 65 (2002 ed.). Consistent with the activities restricted by statute, the implementing regulations prohibit the solicitation of votes for or against, or any other form of promotion or opposition of, any person or political party or position on a ballot question, to be voted on at the current election. 950 C.M.R. 54.04(22)(d). Accordingly, a person standing within 150 feet of a polling location, including observers in the polling location, may not: hold any campaign sign; hand any person literature intended to influence the voter’s action at the polls; wear any campaign buttons or identifying signage; solicit a person’s vote for or against a candidate or question on the ballot; or, distribute stickers ….
– From “Election Day Legal Summary,” Massachusetts Secretary of State’s Office
The ballot box is one of American democracy’s secular sacred spaces, where the fact that you voted may be public, but whom you voted for is your own private business.
Unless, that is, you happen to be in one of the low-income communities targeted for “help” from the community organizers of Neighbor to Neighbor Massachusetts, where individuals may just need a little extra guidance to ensure they vote the correct way.
While conservatives in most of the rest of the country woke up to a celebration last Wednesday, those of us marooned in Massachusetts found ourselves left high and dry by a red wave that didn’t have quite enough oomph to overcome the leftist machine our home state is so infamous for. In spite of a number of good candidates and a palpable level of Republican voter enthusiasm, most of the races weren’t even close. Many pundits have ascribed this surprising finish in large part to the effectiveness of the organized get out the vote effort that the Democrat establishment, along with their community organizer and union allies, were able to bring to bear. Even the best and most well-funded candidates versus the most scandal-ridden incumbents are hard-pressed to overcome the extra percentage points this structure is able to set into gear on election day.
In general, this problem is a political one. As long as the requisite laws are obeyed, fair enough. We can debate the matter, try to bring a level of fairness to the system, and make an effort to expose the excesses while our side tries to do better next time.
But what if existing laws and mores were, in fact, violated? That’s where what went on at the polls on Tuesday comes in. I have heard from multiple poll watchers who noted apparent or possible irregularities at the voting places they were stationed, and Neighbor to Neighbor Massachusetts takes center stage.
A Neighbor to Neighbor interpreter “assists” a voter with a bilingual ballot.
Neighbor to Neighbor describes itself thusly:
Neighbor to Neighbor Massachusetts is a progressive organization of working class, multi-racial, and multi-ethnic people working together to build political and economic power to improve the quality of lives in our communities. As members, we lead the change ourselves through education & training, issue & electoral organizing, policy advocacy, alliance building, community-controlled economic development, and holding decision-makers accountable.
We seek to create a powerful movement for economic and social justice that builds a participatory and responsive democracy to transform people’s lives and the political and economic structures that impact them.
You get the drill. Needless to say, N2N declared VICTORY! following the election day’s results. What went into it? Let’s hear from some witnesses:
Attached is a photo I took when a Neighbor to Neighbor organizer escorted a voter into the booth as an “interpreter” [See above]. Funny; the ballots were bi-lingual so I didn’t see the need for an interpreter. She was coaching voters to vote all “D’s” and on a few occasions she actually had the pen in her hand.
I was almost kicked out by the police officer who was sitting in the room when I took this photo but I told him I’d be more cooperative and sat back down. Soon after this photo the Baker legal team [Charles Baker, Republican candidate for governor] was able to convince the warden and the officer that this woman was not allowed to escort any more voters to the booths. She quickly changed tactics and started sending people in with a sample ballot filled out so the voter would just copy it. Incredible!
If you look closely at the photo, the Neighbor to Neighbor logo is a big fish eating a little fish. The big fish is a collection of dozens of little fish. I asked one of the organizers who was poll watching as well (that’s another story), what the logo meant and she said it represented the “people” eating people like you. I responded that the logo to me more aptly represented all of us together as Americans eating the government. She did not respond; go figure.
This Neighbor to Neighbor team was a combination of a local leader who knew everybody and some out of state help to bang on doors and coordinate driving people to the polls. They are very good at what they do.








It’s possible that a lot of the Spanish-speakers and others simply can’t read and needed someone to read the ballots off to them. However, this just makes them more vulnerable to manipulation by the unscrupled, and I’m willing to bet that Neighbor to Neighbor is just a splinter group that’s made up of former ACORN workers pulling the same old scam.
The illiterate should vote? IIRC, I read several years back about the Demos busing in mentally retarded to vote. All with assistance, of course.
“Demos” and “mentally retarded?” Aren’t you being redundant here?
Busing in the retarded? You must have been on that bus. What a bunch of freaks here!
And you were in the seat in back right?
“It’s a boring day – I’ve got nothing to do
Except to get a load of retards and drive ‘em to the zoo.”
- “Takin’ Retards to the Zoo”, Dead Milkmen
Maybe we can get DM to do a version about going to the polls.
If you have to call names you don’t have anything to say.
Prisons, graveyards and mental health facilities are always the core of Democrat support.
Babe in the woods or part of the blame scream media?
@Gringo: uhhh seriously? last I checked, literacy tests for voting were still banned. You might not like it, and that’s ok, but it is the law.
If you need help you shouldnt vote. Sorry
Can’t wait till this “law” turns this country into another Mexico,….
but where are all you losers going to go,….??????
one of the election laws that needs to be changed
Brainerd Dispatch newspaper had an article in it of the mental handicap people being brought to vote at the court house. This is Minnesota.
Disenfranchising active duty soldiers, allowing questionable “helpers” to manipulate the mentally challenged, and permitting felons and illegals to vote?
What the hell is the matter with this country?
In a word: LEFTISTS!
The first & most obvious think the Republicans should do upon taking over is cut off all fed money to community activist organizations and legal aid groups.
Let them scream.
If those who needed help only speak Spanish and are illiterate then how could they even be qualified to vote. I believe you need to be literate to become a citizen and if they were born here they would speak English. Sounds like voter fraud using illegal aliens to vote which I believe is a felony in still in every state.
What?……Voter fraud in Mass? One of the most liberal states in the union?…….Naw! why they’re the most honest ones around!!! Right?
And what are we supposed to do about it?
In my book, voter fraud is a form of treason and I’d like to see the law treat it with appropriate seriousness. But the fact that Republican leaders don’t do much about it tells me one of two things. Either it is not as widespread as we fear or Republicans do it too on a broad enough scale that they tend to cancel each other out.
Neither changes my opinion that anyone convicted of voter fraud should be thrown in irons for decades, turning big rocks into little ones under the Arizona sun, but it does suggest that, in aggregate, it’s not undermining our election system.
Republicans do complain about it. When they do, that is of course presented as proof that they are bigots who don’t want Hispanics, blacks, the handicapped etc. to vote.
Riiigghht. Because equal treatment under the laws of the nation are
inherently racist. Jackass.
a) vote
b) get at least two or more people to vote to outnumber fraud
c) get involved
d) ask for Id requirement
e) no bilingual ballots
f) citizenship requirement
g) most important try to expose corruption and convince your friends
Everyone who cares about fair elections needs to join True the Vote (in Texas), a similar organization in a few other states, and help set one up in states such as Massachusetts. The founder of TTV (a Houstonian) set up training sessions in election law for approx 1,000 poll watchers. You would not believe what we caught in Houston, including Black Panthers intimidating us poll watchers. We carefully observed the law while seeing Presiding Judges and their paid poll watchers deliberately violate it (and accidentally in some cases because they weren’t as knowledgeable as we were). Quite a few lawsuits are pending.
The TTV founder is smart, well-spoken, energetic, and committed to save America for her children. She has already volunteered to train groups in other states such as AZ.
True the Vote is a fabulous organization helping us in Nevada and California. Highly recommend everyone check them out and bring them to your state. Do it! wwwtruethevote.org
DAMN GOOD QUESTION!!!..Unless we get heard by people in power, nothing will happen.
The cure for Treason is spelled out in the Constitution.
Everyone involved , even the guards at Auschwitz.
I call BS on this, especially considering how Republicans tend to “help” the voting process.
The most corrupt Democrat is still more honest than the average, standard issue Republican.
BC = “BS”, a democrat party operative troll.
BC needs to go back to eating his hot pockets and molesting stuffed animanls in his parents basement for some small sense of satisfaction. Because he sure isn’t getting it here with his flatulations.
Self-fulfillment’s on short supply with someone as conceptually handicapped as Butty.
Yeah, right. That’s why Vote Fraud is nest to Democrat in theDdictionary of Politics.
Evidence?
Evidence. The Democrats fanatically oppose any effort to improve ballot security. Here in Texas they have fought off a requirement for photo IDs every time it has been proposed on the obviously specious grounds that it might inconvenience someone who doesn’t have one, even if alternative means are allowed. The Democrats know that if they lost the fraudulent vote 5% of their tally would disappear in most districts. There is no other explanation for their attempts to weaken efforts to improve ballot security, especially in a state where there are millions of illegals.
Things might turn out
differently, this time.
Voter photo ID cards scare the heck out of democrats. They not only make it more likely to catch voter fraud but the democrats are most afraid of being caught defrauding the welfare system. 48% of welfare is fraudulant, i.e. most are getting two welfare/food stamp payments. Of course, the way they could get around that is to put democrats in charge of issuing photo ID cards.
I call BS on BC – show us documentation – photos of Republicans voting for other people, Republicans filling out bogus voter registration cards, Republicans denying absentee ballots from our military, etc.
What sort of documentation do you really need? You guys have been ranting and raving incessantly over a sub-minor issue involving couple of black dudes in 2008 watchguarding in an area with a troubled voting history, while your buds quietly try to much more seriously screw with voting rights.
If the people actually DO live at the address on file, it’s easy to prove and they vote.
Seems like a great way to keep down voter fraud. Exactly what is your problem with this?
You LIKE voter fraud?
The “screw with” PDF shows Republicans how to check whether people are registering with a real, or phony, address. Pleas explain how this document shows that Republicans “screw with” voting rights.
Google “Voter Caging“.
I’m a pathetic case of a moron. Card-carrying communist.
Here in Fairfax, VA there were more votes cast on the touchscreen machines than registered voters. Tell me that isn’t fraud. When they find a box of ballots in the back of a car, *all* for Franken, in a nearly 50/50 race (statistics 101), tell me that isn’t fraud. When every recount in FL replaced more bush votes with spoiled ballots, tell me that isn’t fraud. (I’m not sure the SCOTUS had the authority to stop the shenanigans, but it was definitely voter fraud.)
I support http://verifiedvoting.org
They don’t address old fashioned “ballots in the back of the car” fraud, but they do address the huge problem of unauditable electronic voting.
Okay, BC, normally, I do not waste time with you, but I am going to challenge you here.
I read your first link. The article is from a group which states that its purpose is to oppose the other groups it charges of wrong-doing. I’m okay with groups like that, but I will remain skeptical of their data.
As to the charges, they are absolutely true. The thing is, none of what they charge is unlawful or even unethical.
It is private groups doing what the GOVERNMENT is supposed to be doing! The various governments are legally required to purge the voter roles. The standards are set by law. These groups are merely following the government standards.
“Oh, but they are getting voter registrations discarded based solely on returned mail. It’s voter-caging!” No, it’s the law, stupid! Your address is registered officially with the US Post Office. Your voting eligibility in a district is tied to that address. If you no longer live there, then you are no longer qualified. Why would you have a problem with that, stupid?
Do these groups tend to focus on certain areas, typically ones with lots of minorities? Yes, because that’s where the RENTERS are, stupid!
How does this opposition group react to these plain-sight things these they have uncovered? They file formal complaints. Lawfare. None of it is illegal, or even wrong, at all. Not one bit. But they are going to file complaints anyway. Why? Because the fraudulent voter is a Dem constituency, stupid.
Voter-caging is a non-issue, or rather, an AstroTurf-Issue.
After reading/watching your links, it seems that your definition of “voting rights” matches our definition of “voter fraud”. Hence, conflict is inevitable.
Your goal seems to be that anyone who manages to show up at a polling place should be able to vote – regardless of where they live, what country they are a citizen of, or whether they are actually registered (or eligible to register).
Our goal is the opposite – that only actual US citizens registered at their primary place of residence should be able to vote. I’m glad that you actually believe in something (contrary to the popular “everyone is right” meme), but sadly your choice of position make us sworn enemies.
This guy is an absolute clown. You make claims just to make them without any validation. Your statements alone prove your ignorance. Keep talking so the rest of the nation can see how bad it is to be a Democrat. I do believe it’s been posters like you that have helped sweep the Republicans into office in a historical fashion. You are doing more to help our cause than we could ever do. Keep spewing your nonsense. I love it. Vote conservatives and follow The Constitution. God Bless America.
Sorry guys, but voter caging is the real deal, and a form of abuse of process: systematically and deliberately exploiting poorly thought out or implemented regulations for ill-intentions. The poorer sections of the country, from urban DC to rural Louisiana, get the rawest deals, from crappy schools to nightmarish crime, from indifferent police enforcement to poorly run polling stations. And these supposed poll monitors target these poor areas because they are the most defensive and defenseless: take enough intrusive, paparazzi-type video and you’ll eventually get some nice, out of context footage of annoyed black folk; and add enough “gotcha!” BS to long lines and chronically broken down voting machines and you can disenfranchise a whole bunch of people regardless of their true eligibility. Voting is suppose to be a right of citizens, and *not* some bizarre form of tactical, political warfare.
This is why all the moronic, eye-rolling fuss that right wingers and Republicans have been making over the 2008 New Black Panther “incident” amounts to nothing more than just additional evidence of the craven immorality that seems omnipresent in the modern Republican party. Whatever happened to just being fiscally conservative and strong on defense?
All this chronic malicious nonsense is why Palin and the Tea Partiers don’t seem so bad in comparison to the current crop of mainstream Republicans: they may be a little bit on gullible and clueless side, but at least they are not acting like they would stomp on kittens if it would further their political careers and idiot ideology.
only to a parasite like you BC,
to democrats cheating is second nature …a lifestyle.
What does Soros pay you to troll from your parents’ basement, little boy?
“The most corrupt Democrat is still more honest than the average, standard issue Republican.”
Phew! I was afraid the the brainwashing just wasn’t going to last. BC here is part of the standard-issue Republican plan to make Democrats say the stupidest things imaginable. Looks like it’s still working. And so, on to 2012.
Typical leftist. For them, the way to get around the consequences of criminal corruption is to just project it onto their political opponents. Everyone of the people corrupting these elections should do long prison terms and every one of their apologists should be shamed for undermining our democracy.
No, no, no. Democrats are the good guys, see? Their perfidy is for a good cause, only Republicans do things for bad reasons. So even if Democrats commit worse crimes, they’re still better people than Republicans.
And don’t you forget it!
another BS, F******* Dem looser
Let me guess; you’re with the SEIU, ACORN or AFSCME. And which Democrats are more honest; the one’s that founded the KKK, enacted Jim Crow, imprisoned citizens for speaking out against government policies, interred US citizens in concentration camps, filibustered the Civil Rights Act and actively recruited Klansmen, covertly courted the Soviet Union to thwart our foreign policy, let a woman drown in a submerged automobile, serially molested and groped women, threatened to ruin them if they talked and lied to Congress, reneged on signed treaty obligations which led to millions murdered in the Killing Fields of Southeast Asia, lies about the solvency of Fannie and Freddie and refused to allow regulations which led to the housing and financial collapse of 2008, and on and on and on…
Yeah. Thought so.
And stole the 1960 presidential election with the help of the Chicago “dead” voters.
Not dead voters in 1960. The ballot boxes were lost and then found. Every vote counts.
You’re not saying anything new.
As you note such fraud, criminal or treasonous, has BEEN KNOWN to the powers that be at least since that “election” in Illinois/Chicago of 1960.
AND WHAT WAS DONE ABOUT IT. A half century. Where are the outcries ? Where are the criminal indictments ? Why have there been none?
Voting fraud is “acceptable” if the “correct” candidate is the benefactor, especially if that candidate is a darling of the propaganda media and the “best and brightest”.
The question is WHY IS … the “correct” candidate? And how easy is it to gull the voting, that is the legal voting, population. This question has been answered to the satisfaction of the power mongers in the USA since the population has been brainwashed / “educated” with the wizard’s wand called Television. In the control under government license of a small number of persons/groups. An administrative requirements in a complex organisation?
The controllers of the legal system in this Constititonal Republic the USA are lawyers. Lawyers are a collegiate of disparate persons who vow to support the collegiality. And THAT is one of the problems now apparent in actions of the Representative Body of that USA.
There is no true opposition to the behaviours of those in the highest offices of government. Despite one of the duties of each office of the three, Legislature, Judiciary and Executive, to assure that NONE of the offices/officers of the government oversteps the charter laid down in the fundamental law the Constitution. There has been little if any such endeavours within living memory. More collegiality ?
So complex is the entire system that all sorts of malfeasance can be AND IS hidden within the complexity.
A primary example is the socalled health care bill which goes far beyond health care in its restrictions, and which is reported to have been some thousands of pages long. So long, so complicated, so replete with legalese that the “representatives of the people” acquiesced to the restrictions on their constituents and by extension the entire population. AND THIS HEALTH CARE BILL is merely one of the frauds committed on the People by the “representatives” of the People.
Compare this, and others like them, and the behaviours of the congressmen/senators who agreed to these distortions /aberrations in law, to the people and documents which founded the legal/political system of this marvel of the modern age. This erstwhile most successful society, providing the greatest good to the greatest number, the USA. Now the primary, too often willing, prey of national and international vultures/hyenas.
1. The Declaration of Independence
2. The Articles of Confederation and of course
3. The Constititon of the USA.
All told in the language of the people, NOT legalese, and obtaining in 29 pages. Read it and weep at the people we now choose to guide our nation unto the nth generation.
That is a verifiable lie. On every question of morality- cheating on taxes, cheating on one’s spouse or lying, Dems are demonstrably worse than Republicans: http://pewresearch.org/pubs/307/a-barometer-of-modern-morals
That’s only one study. There are plenty more that confirm it. Liberals are dishonest because they do not believe in basic first principles, but rather that the ends justify the means.
Not really, Liberals just don’t lie on surveys.
So you’re saying both do bad things, but only conservatives feel guilty about it?
BC, I watched the video. If that’s the best you’ve got, then you need to rethink your partisanship. No eligible voter was denied his right to vote. The secret, nefarious, racist, evil Republican plan turns out to be 1) Identifying a group of registrations that likely have a higher percentage of ineligibles – because, as the GOTV groups themselves point out, they aren’t checking for that because they aren’t required to (How many times have we heard “registrations aren’t votes!”). 2) Running a simple and legal test that identifies possible illegal registrants, and 3) challenging those if and only if they happen to come to vote. That minority groups were targeted stems directly from the fact that minority groups were targeted in the initial registration.
If someone had reasonable evidence they were eligible, they voted and it counted. That it somehow seems or feels wrong to you is a measure of your feelings, not their actions.
BitChie But Crack –
Did enjoy going out with Goldstein and eating hotdogs?
BC
“… and having lunch there is like having lunch with talking research papers: no assertion or opinion is expressed without citing authoritative sources to justify it, and random blog sites don’t quite make the cut.”
“…ummm, I have to go now to put more mustard on my hot dog.”
November 8, 2010 – 1:18 pm
Goldstein is inside your head. And BitChie is helpless.
Indeed.
IF you change the dictionary definition of ‘honest’ to mean exactly opposite of what it currently lists.
The Left is founded on one giant lie, and naturally enough, all consequent superconstructions of the Left are lies. So honesty is as alien to the Left as air is to a fish. Indeed, if the Left tries even “single” honesty, it’s whole house would come crashing. For instance, in this instance, too, BC, has to lie about his kind being more honest. He can not possibly tell you the truth, “the dems are 100% dishonest from the core.” … forgive his metaphysical imperatives, folks, there ain’t nuthin’ he can do about it.
Selling a senate seat is more honest than? Insuring that Fannie Mac have zero oversight so your boyfriend can enrich himself is more honest than? Telling the taxpayers that a trillion dollar stimulus is necessary to save the economy then using that money to pay off union cronies is more honest than?
Feel free to jump in any time Baby Crook.
I will add that you can drum up whatever cause you wish but you’re still a thief.
Sorry, guys, but I pay attention to details — you know, that place where the devil hides. Putting a Republican in charge of a congressional committee, for instance, is like putting vandal in charge of a hardware store. The 9/11 investigations were all gummed up by Republicans until the Democrats were able to take over the committee chairs in 2007 (new Congress people don’t get sworn in until the following January, in case you didn’t know). Pat Roberts in particular held up the Phase II part of the investigation, which showed that Bush and his people indeed lied, until well after the 2004 elections. If a Democrat had done something even remotely similar, he/she would be crucified over and over again endlessly in the right wing media, which would have inevitably spilled over into the mainstream media. But since Roberts is a conservative Republican, his exposure as a conniving politician was limited to mostly a few arcane digests and a mention here and there on progressive websites, which tend in general to not endlessly accuse people of the same misdeed, however factual, and especially not to mount a crusade with other media sites.
On more recent matters, the right wing media, including PJM, has been relentless over charging the DOJ, and indirectly Obama, for all sorts of misbehavior of that 2008 business with the New Black Panthers. Despite the “incident” being 2 year old, and having never generated any voter complaints, and apparently not being any sort of real issue whatsoever, the right wing media has been treating this like it was 10x worse than the Federal response to Katrina. That is demented, malicious BS of the first order, especially when compared to much more recent, and much much more substantial reports of voter intimidation in Harris County, Texas.
You pay attention to any of the right wing/conservative media, from Hot Air to Fox News, and you see the same pattern of BS rumor spreading, playing up anything that smears Obama and the Democrats in general, and just laying out one idiot-baiting bit of disinfo after another to push confused and/or malicious agendas. And if you think that this only counterbalances the “liberal bias” in the mainstream media, you are basically equalizing car jackers to people who overstay their parking meters.
Good guys behave like good guys, bad guys like bad guys. Period.
‘progressive websites, which tend in general to not endlessly accuse people of the same misdeed, however factual, and especially not to mount a crusade with other media sites’
Don’t know why you bother. I doubt you have any idea what a complete and abysmal fool you come off as making that statement. Links to an endlessly self-referential system of progressive echo chambers beclown you every time. As always, just right clicking to identify your links is sufficient cause to dismiss the gist of any comment you make as BDS driven nonsense without wasting time following them.
BitChie But Crack in Its own oral flatulence Modern Liberal semi-language –
BC
“What I would like to see a little bit less is to ignore real problems to instead blow up minor/non-problems as much a possible to make the opposition look bad.”
October 30, 2010 – 5:58 pm
No need BitChie. You are Michael Jackson Bad. Just check out any other But Crack Butt Rap.
“What I would like to see” is a total suppression of differing viewpoints based in BitChie whims. Why mess around But Crack? Just kill everyone that disagrees.
Can BitChie But Crack clean away that bigotry from Its 2 minute hate? The depth of the stench of delusion may be due to only living in a Hate Cracked world.
BC
“I personally can’t have a serious political conversation with a conservative…”
“…ummm, I have to go now to put more mustard on my hot dog.”
November 8, 2010 – 1:18 pm
Again, why mess around But Crack? Just kill everyone that disagrees. No contradictions then!
This is BitChie But Crack Moan Season. The BitChie Hotdog and Mustard theory is fueled by an absolute Crack ridden worldview that has precipitated a surrendering of any idea of even considering any opposition as being anything other than deserving the self-inflected Butt Crack fate.
Butt Crack Fate – Goldstein is inside Bitchie’s head, and BitChie likes it. Crack.
I’m stupid and gullible.
Is that why about half the Dim Black Caucus is under investigation for everything from tax evasion, money laundering, to corrupt nepotism as we type?
The profound honesty of Dimocrats, led by the most honest serial adulterer former President we ever had?
Only one year, 358 days BC to stew about the butt kicking just imposed on your “profoundly honest” Dimocratic (snicker) party.
The idea that the US military, one of the most GOP friendly demographics out there had their votes suppressed by the GOP is just bizarre, but that’s what the NOW link says about 30 seconds in.
I did like the Barack Obama Neighbor to Neighbor program video. But the two neighbor to neighbor efforts aren’t necessarily related. Putting People First was the title of Bill Clinton’s manifesto. It was also a 501(c)3 anti-animal rights organization that I did IT work for. I assure you the two had nothing to do with each other. These little coincidences do happen.
A liberal profiling conservatives? What an unusual event? Got any facts or just blame scream media brainwashed mantra?
What a completely laughable statement…when in fact, the complete opposite is true.
I worked in a city owned nursing facility in MA and this went on every year. As I had young children and pregnant most of the time working there I was not strong enough to speak out. I wish I did.
Give me ONE example of voter fraud done by a conservative, just one. I have tons of them done by liberals/progressives (SEIU, ACORN, Democrat party, UFW, etc, etc). Lisa Murkowski, yes, but she is not a conservative.
So, nothing gets done to stop this crap. N OTHINg. It’s illegal,but no one in charge seems to care about laws, rules, regulations..
Winning/cheating at all costs is not the way to keep this republic together. AND nothing will come of this. We sink lower and lower with each election.
BC,
While you’re calling BS, a couple of specific examples to prove your point would be helpful.
Dave I am afraid you will be waiting for quite sometime because there isn’t any evidence of the kind!
It is silly to say that voter fraud is only/mostly perpetrated by democrats. Every year there are several examples of Robocalls and distribution of flyers giving misleading voting information (I saw the ones by Republicans distributed in Pennsylvania while helping out with GOTV efforts during the presidential election). In the most recent election, there were several reports about robocalls targeting Latino voters and telling them to vote on Nov. 3 instead of Nov. 2; there were flyers and robocalls in last presidential election targeting black and latino voters stating that the election was the next day; a third party group led by a GOP operative put out ads in Nevada urging Latinos not to vote (which isn’t fraud, but certainly not a good idea!). Julius Henson, notorious for dirty trips on behalf of both Republicans and Democrats, devoted his latest antics to Republicans by generating robocalls in Baltimore and Prince Georges County, MD (largest black middle class county) aimed at black democrats an hour and a half before polls closed falsely stating that the democratic candidate had already won so no need to go to the polls. Henson admitted that he was working on behalf of the Ehrlich campaign, but Ehrlich was not necessarily involved. I could go on and on. The point is, that we are deluding ourselves if we think that political operatives only exist on one side of the aisle. It is well known that Republican campaigns tend to benefit by suppressing the vote and these are just some of the examples that people asked for. I’m sure ppl could come up with Democratic scandals as well– just watch Street Fight about the first primary that Cory Booker lost when running for Mayor of Newark. And both sides could also come up with examples that are totally unfounded or overblown. What gives me comfort at least is that every organization or campaign I have volunteered for urges people to adhere to the rules strictly- whether it be poll watching, registering voters, or getting out the vote. It is far more harmful to any political campaign to have volunteers running around cheating than to simply play by the rules and uphold democracy. Frankly, we should be outraged at voter fraud whether it comes from democrats or republicans and stop pretending that republicans are well-known for taking the high road. Let’s face it, voter fraud only matters when your side loses.
ROBOCALLS are voter intimidation or voter FRAUD! You are Deluded!
No CK, voter fraud matters all the time because when we allow it to stand we all lose and our Constitutional Republic continues to die a slow painful death.
In the most recent election, there were several reports about robocalls targeting Latino voters and telling them to vote on Nov. 3 instead of Nov. 2; there were flyers and robocalls in last presidential election targeting black and latino voters stating that the election was the next day; a third party group led by a GOP operative put out ads in Nevada urging Latinos not to vote.
Where did you get your information?..make it up.
We’re talking ACORN types here.
Real arrests, convictions, no contest fraud.
You say “there were several reports”
Not exactly the same thing….eh?
This does not surprise me at all. In Jamaica Plain, at the polls found at the corner of LaMartine and Paul Gore, there are signs posted and people milling about covered in campaign buttons, handing out flyers, and reminding you to vote, all within about 20 feet of the door. I don’t happen to vote at this location – due to zoning, I vote about a mile away, even though this location is a block from my house – but I have to pass it on my way to and from work, and I am always appalled. When I have commented on this to others in the neighborhood, they just shrugged. No one plays by the rules anymore.
BC is a typical Democrat voter. Did you get to the polls early and often, BC ?
At least the libs didn’t shoot-up the voting hall as they are known to do.
Sign up to be one of the people to run the polling place. In Colorado, they are called “election judges”. You can then enforce the rules from a position of authority.
Much ado about nothing. Sore loser Republicans, teabagging idiots, etc.
Your name calling is a sure sign of your intellectual maturity.
So does this mean it’s ok for republicans to escort people to the both, pen in hand, show them who to vote for, hand them forms in the poling place with the “correct” check marks?
I mean if that’s how the game is played…
Much ado about nothing.
It’s a certainty that if it were Republicans doing such things, leftists like you would be screaming themselves hoarse.
How does dredging up Al Gore prove anything?
Pretty much explains how clowns like Barney Frank get elected.
Here in California we have $500 billion in underfunded pensions….the highest gas taxes in the country….the second worst K-12…..12.4% unemployment….and the highest percentage of the population on welfare….oh….and the worst bond rating in the country.
We voted in Jerry Brown…the same governor that allowed the unionization of public employees back in the 70s. We give you Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, Henry Waxman and Maxine Waters.
Can we have a bailout?
Promise it won’t happen again.
Oh BC, I call BS on YOU. That report was done by quoting a guy who is a far left loon, and works for the far left BBC. Just one more “race card” being pulled.
Martin,
Every person who witnessed voter fraud, particularly if they have photos of people as they are committing the fraud, needs to file formal criminal complaints with local officials, and with the FBI (because local in Democratic precincts officials are hopelessly corrupt). They also need to contact conservative groups, who can push and publicize the criminal complaints, because the MSM are utterly corrupt pathological liars, and the FBI and the Justice Department will be pressured to cover this up, and go after the innocent people who reported these felonies, as long as Obama is in office.
Besides doing this, in future elections we need to have tens of thousands of conservative poll watchers in Democrat precincts all over the country with micro-miniature video cameras, quietly film people committing these felonies at voting sites, and film the Democrat poll watchers covering for and encouraging blatant voter fraud. Then these videos, including the offender’s names, the date, time, and location, need to be posted on YouTube. Nothing less is going to force the media, the Justice Department, or law enforcement to do anything about these hundreds of thousands of pathetic, depressing felonies.
Note how effective a handful of under cover video clips were at taking down ACORN.
I think you mean to write “Notice how effective a group of right wing liars and phonies were at deceptively doctoring video footage to smear an organization that did nothing wrong except assist minorities that I personally hate.”
Get off the talking points card long enough to actually do your own research on those videos. The unedited videos are available in full, their transcripts are available in full. If it were really as you had described it, you could give easy examples of it.
But, having watched said videos and read said transcripts, I can tell you that the ACORN workers at more than one location were all too happy to “help”… help someone commit several serious crimes, including underage sex slavery. It’s all in the unedited video – go, watch, and be ashamed that you ever defended that filth.
And the race card has been maxed out, ok? I find racism abhorrent and would like the word “racist” to have some bite, rather just being a generic word to mean “you don’t toe the Democrat party line”. Find some other insulting word to ruin with gratuitous overuse, please.
I believe FASCIST comes to mind!
Wil,
I agree with you 100%. The indivuduals responsible for catching and punishing these crimes are just as corrupt as the one perpetrating the crimes. They have no incentive to stop it. If you don’t shine the light of day on these problem, nothing will change. Using hidden cameras and publishing it on the internet is the only way to turn the tide.
CA has crossed the theshold of critical mass. They have no possibility of swinging more conservative. Only bankruptcy will change the culture as it did in NYC during the 80′s which broght in Rudy Guiliani.
MA still has time but is on the verge of crossing over. We must stop it. Although I am from NH, I think we have stopped the “transformation” of our state for the time being. Remember, no crime is too low for these individuals. The End always justify the MEANS.
Just send them to Breitbart. He can make a “Big Election” site with them!
In Texas, it is illegal to have a recording device (including a cell phone that can take a picture) in the polling place if you are a poll watcher. And I was one. The “Helping” was amazing, even with the helpers knowing there was a poll watcher.
Jake – you teabag idiots? And here I just thought you were filling out their ballots.
Also, I’m sure you said the same thing back during Bush v. Gore.
This is outrageous, although not particularly shocking — not for Massachusetts.
For what it’s worth, at my polling place (in Brookline) I saw no sign of N2N. I certainly would have said something had I seen the sort of antics described here.
BC: I call foul on you and your divisive comments. The author of this article has not pointed to Democrats as more corrupt than Republicans. Since you raised the subject, however, let me point out that, before the election, there were reports of voting fraud in Minnesota, Texas, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and other places — all of it slanted towards Democrats,, not Republicans.
So your accusation is on shaky ground, to put it mildly.
One of the saddest trends to come out of American politics in recent years has been the hyper-polarization of Left vs. Right. It’s often no longer possible for polite people to agree to disagree about politics. Your comment — “The most corrupt Democrat is still more honest than the average, standard issue Republican” — exemplifies this trend, and you should be ashamed of yourself.
DiB
1. Is this voter fraud worse than what US urban (Democratic) political machines routinely do? Is this voter fraud worse than what’s gone on in MA in the past? If so, what is the evidence?
2. ‘Massive’, as in Massive Voter Fraud, is an alarmist term. If you think the election results were affected, say so in plain English–and provide evidence, e.g. discrepancy between the certified votes and exit polls. What about the Scott Brown election?
3. When this post is considered together with the push for card check, one might speculate that the Democratic Party doesn’t like the secret ballot.
4. Were the NtN “activists” helping voters, or monitoring them? It’s only a step from offering “help” to voters to instructing your voters to “ask” for help.
5. “I was almost kicked out by the police officer who was sitting in the room when I took this photo…” But he was fine with “helping” people to vote? Sounds like this cop acted like a union enforcer rather than a law enforcement officer. Unfortunately, the post doesn’t say whether or not the photography is legal. If not, my first reaction is that it should be.
Martin, this is all well and good, but unless you filed some kind of report with the proper authorities and plan to follow up, you’re not doing anyone any good. We hear countless anecdotes like this from across the country on election day, and then nothing ever comes of it. After a while, it just becomes noise.
I’m sure we all appreciate you trying to shed some light on this, but unless you’re planning on doing something about it, it’s a waste of all our time.
but unless you filed some kind of report with the proper authorities
Who, Eric Holder at the DoJ?
While fraud can and does occur at multiple steps in the voting process, one of the most egregious is the gerrymandering of districts that ensure certain outcomes of elections. While I feel bad for conservatives in MA, how about us poor saps in Illinois. We don’t have a chance, even with a whole state of conservative working class people, against the Democrat machine in Chicago and the liberal block in the affluent suburbs.
The end of gerrymandering will be the way to return to fair elections.
#3, BC, it is people like you who have pretty much destroyed the political system in this country. Either you believe the BS you just spouted about “the most corrupt Democrat is still more honest than the average, standard issue Republican,” in which case you are a mentally deficient fool, or you don’t believe it, but enjoy spewing that sort of senseless, insane partisan just to antagonize the other side.
Either you are an idiot or an ass. And frankly it’s not clear to me which is worse. But you are joined by legions of your ilk on both sides of the aisle.
So where are the challenges by Pubs?? Where are the solutions? Would any races be changed by this fraud? It seems as if Dems do this every election cycle and yet the Election areas who supposedly deal with this, the FCC , the Election Commission itself, never never seem to penalize any of these scam artists. Whether it is black walking around monies, ACORN-NEA union thugs, or Black Panthers, or Dem registrars who count, do not count, lose ballots, this is a continuing problem that the MSM will never investigate though John Fund of the WSJ and Hugh Hewitt with his book, If it is not close, they can’t cheat prove that Dems do this routinely.
Start getting really good at doing the same thing!
The ultimate problem becomes the citizen who can’t read, or can’t understand the issues presented prior to entering a voting booth.
The IGNORANT are led like sheep by the socialist Democrats to the ballot box where the American System is “slaughtered”.
We are being overrun by Marxists.
Thank you Wil ~ this is a strategic thoughtful response to this appalling problem.
My 48 year old friend who is deemed mentally retarded & part of the DMR system in MA was told by a staff member of his respite house to vote all Democratic “or he’d lose his housing/benefits.” My friend is a registered Republican & very capable of voting for people who stand for his values, but he was “BULLIED” to vote Democratic. Where is the bully agenda here?
Your friend needs to file a complaint. Really, file a complaint…call a tv station, call Beck, call anyone. If no one stands up, we will fall to this sort of fraud.
Just get out of that stinkin state. Its a lost cause. Has been for decades. There’s plenty of great places to live still in this country where marxists are nearly non existent. Move.
An odd thing happened in the Results in Mass. The house picked up 15 Republicans, but they won no races at a higher level than that. I thought at the time it would be because it took far too many resources to fraud every district. I bet there are some interesting statistical phenomena precinct to precinct in that state.
Will anything be done? I don’t think so.
When the Takers out-number the Producers, then vote accordingly, Americas dies.
This state is a stinking corpse.
Time to take my assets and leave The Peoples Republic of Taxachusetts and move to New Hampshire.
“You are a slave to the degree you are dependent on Government” -Jefferson.
Not too long ago I bought a 8 gig spy pen that shoots video. Works pretty good. There are glasses and key chain fake remotes as well. Need to start stocking up on those for 2012.
Where do we get them? I’m considering a lipstick stun gun next time.
Has a formal complaint been submitted to the Massachusetts Secretary of State’s office?
There are certainly statistical anomalies here in California too.
For example, in some congressional districts in the Central Valley, absentee ballots submited on election day almost equal the actual live ballots cast that day in the booths.
Worst, at least some local voter resigstars (Santa Clara County, for one) are hiring SEIU workers to handle and count ballots. Some SEIU people have the nerve to wear their purple shirts during the counting.
Delegitimize the vote and you delegitimize our government. This is the first step towards civil war. Are the leftists ready for that?
I feel your pain. Having lived in CT. most of my life I now understand how these states stay democratic: First, the state hires a substantial number of the population as public employies. Second unionize them, third, with the right benefits they and their families are soon completely dependent on the state, voting always to protect their own interests. As CT. enters a new era of complete democratic control even Mass. is starting to look like a viable location to relocate to, at least you have Boston.
This is good. This explains why for so long there are disparities. If we keep on uncovering these things and setting up ways to detect them, you will begin to find that the liberals will be elected less and less in this country. I suspect that this has been going on for years and years. It will continue until it gets exposed. This is the first time I have heard that voter fraud has been this exposed in Massachusetts. It has always been suspected and hinted at. NOT EXPOSED.
All over the country, people are finding voter fraud. Massive numbers of voters who live at the same address. Duplicates, etc etc.
It gives me hope that people will find it, expose it and eliminate it.
If this sickens you, go out and get involved in poll watching. Become a voter judge. Don’t let this get you down. Do something to combat it!
That’s why we should have online voting. A “helper” could vote as many times as his fingers could type. So much faster, so much easier, no nosy fraud watchers to complain.
Btw, you could post pictures, you could complain, there could be more votes than voters, the One’s Justice Dept would treat them the way they treat the New Black Panthers. It’s the Republicans’ fault that they didn’t win more than the ACORN/CommunityHelper/Recount margin. That is why all close calls in blue/purple states are won by Dems.
I had the opportunity to Observe (all day!) at one of the Worcester polling stations. Frankly, I was shocked. Takeaway: The single most important thing that should be required is ID.
1. The workers (who get $100 for the day) didn’t seem to realize how serious their jobs are. If a person said they lived at “12 Main Street” and there was no listing on the registration list I heard them say things like “did you mean 14 Main Street?” while the person could clearly see the list of unchecked names. Nobody said yes, thankfully, or I would have objected. I did let the worker know it wasn’t appropriate.
2. A couple of votes were not counted due to poll worker ineptness. One name was mischecked, another was not properly processed out.
3. A van of mentally challenged people came in at one point. Clearly, they would have issues at the stations. The problem is that the helpers could be easily telling the voters where to fill in the ballot. There was plenty of pointing and talking.
4. At least 25 people lived at different addresses from where they were registered. Because no ID is required, who knows if they were telling the truth or not.
All in all, the day was mostly OK, no thanks to the system and poll workers. I objected to a couple of things and they rectified them. It was clear, though, that if someone wanted to game the system we certainly make it easy enough to do so.
Amen fellow poll watcher. A lot of it is lack of training for the paid workers and judges, and in certain districts, it’s completely and intentionally voter fraud.
I’ll tell you Massachusetts residents the same thing I’d tell Californians or New Yorkers:
Move to a red state while you still have something worth looting and watch them burn from a distance. I will not tolerate a bailout of your state’s obscene spending, nor will anyone else. When they can’t get it from me, they’ll coming looking for you to bail them out.
To Dan in Brookline:
I appreciate your reply to BC about the tone of his comments…it’s a reasonable critique. However, to critique his comments as part of the hyper polarization of politics, given the slew of replies he received that were hyper-partisan and hyper-toned is unfair and has a hint of hypocrisy.
A spade is a spade regardless of who holds it.
That said, if voter fraud occurred, it should be prosecuted. But lets not extrapolate more from this than should be extrapolated. Its not evidence of a liberal conspiracy. Its not evidence of a democratic agenda.
In fact, to be accurate, its not actually evidence. Its a blog post by someone relaying to us something he heard. Until people are quoted by name, and people file complaints and are investigated/prosecuted, I’m personally dismissing the relevance of this.
Where does the statute say that a voter can’t bring someone with them to the voting booth if they want to? I just looked at the law and yes, it does say that you can’t hand out flyers, wear buttons, etc. within 150 feet of the polls, but I don’t see anything there that says that a voter is not permitted to bring someone with them if they choose to. Also, voters can carry written materials into the polls with them. I believe that this language is relevant to the discussion: M.G.L. c. 54 sec. 65 says:
“Whoever posts, exhibits, circulates or distributes any poster, card, handbill, placard, picture or circular intended to influence the action of a voter, or any paster to be placed upon the official ballot, in violation of any provision of this section, shall be punished by a fine of not more than twenty dollars.”
It may be that these Neighbor to Neighbor workers are violating the spirit of the law, but it’s not clear that this violates the language of the law.
People shouldn’t vote if they for 1. can’t read either an English ballot and a bilingual ballot 2. need assistance from some group or organization-to solve this why not have a police officer or warden (used in the above article) translate the ballot? or how about this “research” people on the ballot! When you come into a polling place, the people at the registration table should in brief explain the ballot and how to use the ballot correctly. A professional interpreter should be a available and no advice on who to vote for should be advised. 3. Your not a citizen of the US, id required to vote. People should be sworn into the polling place unassisted by an aid etc. “I come competent, freely, willing and able to vote with out bribery or threat” I think it ridiculous that people can’t just vote according to their own beliefs that they need to be assisted and told how to vote left or right wing. Come on America get some common sense and competency…enable those to learn to read if they can’t then don’t let them vote because they only know what someone else has told them not what they have actually researched.
It’s good to know in this country we have a justice department that will investigate irregularities in voting and will enforce all applicable laws to make sure voter fraud can’t happen here. Oh, wait…
Thanks for this eye-opener. I spent hours volunteering for a US congressional candidate in MA and now I feel I wasted my time. I knew the Dems had a great GOTV machine in MA – especially in urban areas. But I had no idea it was this insidious or wide spread. This article certainly helps explain how an admitted Castro-loving pseudo-socialist got elected in the congressional district that includes Worcester. [Not to mention Bawney Fwank winning or the guy who's wife was convicted about 2 weeks before election of laundering millions of dollars for illegal gambling syndicate.] I read a story about how a Congressional candidate on the Cape got [I believe] several hundred thousand dollars of “walking around money” from DNC days before the election – when it was too late to prepare any mailings and all the ad time was bought up. Did this money go to pay folks to work the polls or could it have gone to voters directly? I wonder if the only reason Brown was elected in January’s special election was that the corrupt “machine” did not have time to power up. [Since Rasmussen poll showing him within striking distance did not happen until 3 weeks before election.] Moptop made a great point that the only real success for Republicans in MA was in the MA State House. And because of this some are saying the only way to change MA is from the ground up. So MAYBE in 2012 we could hope for a handful of of extra Republicans in the state Sentate . . .and then in 2014 MAYBE ONE US Congressman. It is hard to get excited about that. I have just forwarded this article to the over 1,000 members of Greater Boston Tea Party. {Which would not include 3 or 4 addditional Tea Party Groups in the state.} I think our only hope in 2012 is to suspend all Republican or Indepenent conservative candidate stand-outs, phone calls, door to door, etc. a few days before election and put 100% of our effort into poll watcher training and organizing a prepared “army” of poll watchers – especially in urban areas. [Several Republican candidates - including Barney's opponent - did very well in white-coller suburbs in their districts.] But when I think about how they can use OUR tax dollars to send out an “army” on their side of governent union workers [as well as very powerful private sector unions] . . . I think do we have a chance in hell? I have thought for awhile that the Dems in MA were competely incompetent but now I realize they have excelled at one thing – keeping themselves in power thanks to highly organized well planned GOTV corruption. And now that MA has elected ALL DEMS again – - including AG and Secretary of State . . . how can we go after this corruption? But I refuse to give up just yet. I may be moving to New Hampshire after November of 2012 though.
Should anybody wonder why people from Mass. are referred to as “Massholes”,and the state as Taxachusettes? The home of the liberal elite.
The next revolution certainly will not begin here, unless it can be taxed,zoned,permitted,regulated and blessed by a Kennedy or a Kerry.
Shawn, People are always being told how to vote – it’s the process of political campaigns. It’s one thing to buy somebody’s vote, but unless I missed something there’s no proof of that yet. You’re 100 percent right that people have a civic duty to make themselves into educated voters, but in the age of television and internet many, many people aren’t willing to spend the time and energy to actually educate themselves – we’re a population of lazy people (sloths). Maybe the founding fathers had the right idea when they limited the vote to people who owned land! Then again, those were the same people who drove the Native American off his land and didn’t give him a vote either.
Anyone hwrw who believes that the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts will actually enforce the laws they created, or to a greater degree, create more laws like Voter ID and citizensship requirement isliving in the land of Eleves and Fairies. And I don’t mean Barney Franks district either. They aren’t even enforcing the law cited at the beginning of this article. Not only were the Poll hustlers within 150 ft from the polling place I go to but one of the State Reps was holding his own sign.
The only thing the Democrat infested Legislature is very good at it’s Taxes. Ask anyone who live here and that is the biggest gripe, but oddly it seems to not affect the elections. They all cry for change and when they have the opportunity they vote for the same people who created the mess. We have freedom here and the people who should use it, actual Citizens, don’t, that makes me angry, not just here in MA but all over the country. There are people in Iran, Palestine, Venezuala, Cuba, China, Vietnam, North Korea. Add any country you like, that would love to be able to pick their own leaders in a fair election. They can’t and we don’t, not the we in this forum, but 60 to 70 percent of eligible voters who don’t vote. So we get not what we deserve, we get what the non voters deserve.
For what it’s worth: I voted in a Mass. suburban polling place, which, I believe went 55-45 or higher Democrat. I didn’t see any irregularities; people of all ages entering and leaving. I also have read NOTHING in the papers, heard nothing on the radio, nor seen anything on tv regarding voting scandals. The Dems won by big margins in almost all the races, which, I will admit (the margins) was surprising, but it’s hard to get a 5-10% swing by one on one voter fraud, or so I would think.
Regarding reading anything about voting irregularities in newspapers – - the Globe is the right arm of the MA Dem party and the Herald can afford few reporters. Most of the local papers are lib leaning as well. RE Dems wining by 10-15% in many areas – obviously there are many suburban towns where old school Catholic Kennedy loving Dems combined with the abundence of wealthy intellectual elite libs will always beat any Republican. But Scott Brown won state-wide by winning almost all suburban towns. [For his special election Urban turnout was very light - partly thanks to election being in January and partly because the machine at half capacity.] But I heard that Dem GOTV Machine went well beyind the fraud described in urban polling places in this article. This Herald article spells it out when it says: “Bay State Democrats literally door-knocked their way to victory in the midterm election by building a massive ground game that delivered 20,000 volunteers to 800,000 households in the span of 13 hours on Election Day, the party czar said yesterday.” Also keeping in mind the Dems made the smart move of pooling ALL their volunteers [including of course unions hacks and ACORN] on election day. So if the Dem AG was ahead by 20 points her people could help at Barney’s district’s polling places. [http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/view.bg?articleid=1293878]
The Republican candidate for Governor lost by about 150,000 votes. Barney’s challenger Bielat lost by about 24,500 – - could they have dragged enough voters out of heavily unionized and poverty stricken Fall River and New Bedford to win? I believe Bielat won half of his towns. And Perry on the Cape only lost by about 12,750 votes. His opponent is the one who got all that money from the DNC three days before the election. Coincidence? He was dead even [w/margin of error] in the polls days before the elecion. And OK it is only the auditor . . . but the Republican candidate for state wide auditor only lost by 3% to the admitted tax cheat Dem candidate. How easy is it to think that they got enough folks out to polling places to vote straight ticket Dem. for her to pick up the 3% extra? Admittedly this is completely legal. But I think we need to decide if our state is destined for one party rule forever. Or if the Republicans [based on my experience mostly useless] or MA Tea party needs to try to find a way to at least get one or two state wide Republican candidates in and maybe 1 or 2 US Congressmen and a few extra Republicans in MA Congress and Senate. I think we would have to count especially gerrymandered and/or urban districts lost and concentrate on only a few high quality candidates in winnable districts. [I say Richard Tisei for Congress in 2012. A lot of Dems like him already.]
And besides the GOTV related fraud, there’s this CATVC (count and transmit the vote count) fraud too, albeit much harder to see and document.
Deborah Sampson wrote: “Admittedly this is completely legal.” …er, therefore, hardly “massive voting fraud.” Talk about rumors and exaggerations!
Ah Dwight . . . I suspected from your first posting that you were one of the group of apathetic, uninvolved, unmotivated MA Republicans [perhaps demoralized as well] with corresponding poor attitude. [Not all MA Republicans of course but a sadly large group nonetheless.] If I had a dime for all those types I met while working for 2 MA Republican candidates in 2010 election . . . I could take a trip to the UK. [Not that I would b/c of the student rioting going on. Maybe CA and MA will be next.] (a)I was not talking about voting fraud in my response to your “Oh well, what can we do, I did not see anything, I did not read anything [in the Globe?!], MY suburban town voted Dem by large margin, we can never make up the difference (anywhere?)” post. I was using the PJM article as a jumping off point to discuss the primary reason for SOME of the losses in MA – - the incredibly powerful and successful Dem Party Machine partially paid with our tax dollars. [Would it not be nice to have a State Auditor that has experience as a public sector auditor as opposed to a Dem Deval hack with no auditing experience who cheated on her taxes? The difference was 3% brought to you courtesy of the machine. Do you know ANYBODY that voted for Bump!?] (b)If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Silly me, I thought because you lived in MA you might give a hoot. Luckily for you and your ilk, there are several highly motivated Tea Party groups throughout the state with great leadership. The MA Tea Party members worked tirelessly for a number of candidates including Sean Bielat – losing by 11% in that Gerrymandered monstrosity of a district is no mean feat and I do not think any other Republican has come that close. Members of these Tea Party groups are taking the time to go to poll watcher training classes [one featured ACORN whistle blower] . . . are they overmatched and inexperienced? Undoubtedly they were a week ago. But I for one am not ready to give up yet. MA Tea Party members are trying to learn as much as they can about voter fraud and the MA Dem Party machine before 2012, because speaking from personal experience, the MA Republican party is more trouble than it is worth. I think it will be up to the Tea Party and hopefully some sympathetic Independents and Republicans [who are not part of MA Republican leadership] to come up with some kind of a GOTV organization to at least compete in a few races and districts. MA Tea Party groups have also been working on voter reg issues including mandatory IDs. An uphill battle with Marsha and Deval to be sure . . . but you cannot win if you do not play.
On the other end of the spectrum I want to applaud Danny M. He got involved with Bielat’s campaign instead of throwing up his hands and complaining the district is too gerrymandered. Maybe with redistricting Bielat will have a better shot in 2012. Please don’t give up Danny!
As I point out in a post below, Stalin Castro Mao and a bunch of Asian and African dictators were (and are) winning rigged “elections” as democrats do with similar margins from the inner cities of this country. Margins above 80%, when tens of thousands of voters are “registered” to vote, are inherently fishy. This is a national disgrace.
Liberals fear muslims because an angry muslim may cut their head off. They don’t fear conservatives because we sit back and complain about it.
If you see fraud, be loud and be a problem for them.
Bad news folks – I just looked at the Code of Mass. Regulations Mr. Solomon was kind enough to mention, 950 CMR 54:04(9)(c) and it there’s a whole paragraph about voter assistance – but it doesn’t say that a voter can’t bring in someone to help:
Assistance to Voter. If a voter asks for assistance in casting his ballot due to blindness, physical disability or inability to read or to read English, he maybe assisted by a person of his own choice or if he desires instead by two election officers of different parties.
Looks like your proof of fraud just went down the crapper since there’s no way to prove that the voters didn’t bring the “community organizer” folks along to help them read the ballots. Time to get some real laws mate.
The rest of the law instead of selective omissions: poll watchers have the right to stand right behind “asissters” of voters to keep everything legal and honest.
This type of Marxist Treason is found with race politics, and the government plantation. Holder will do nothing. Because, you already know why.
I’ve said it before and say it again: any counts out of minority precincts, anywhere in the US and especially in heavily populated by minorities States, probably aren’t worth the paper written on. That’s how the democRATS systematically steal elections, especially in the North East, North Central and West. The (virtually unchecked) electronic transmission of precinct tallies to County or State Boards/Commissions of Elections or various States’ Secretaries of State (all democRATS in those Regions) provides the icing on the cake.
The mere fact that precinct totals favor Democrats with percentages strongly resembling soviet style returns, or Third World dictatorship election totals (ie, in the 90% or above range for Democrats) does give a hint as to what is going on there. On top, as in certain instances the total number of reported “precinct actual votes” exceeds the number of “registered voters” in that precinct also is telling.
Political correctness and inaccessibility to detailed records inhibits all efforts to systematically study and expose this problem, which has been really a scandal in American politics for decades. People have become cynical about it, while some have made this issue a matter of sarcasm and fine humor. Unfortunately it isn’t.
Stalin’s dictum (it only matters who counts the vote) is here and today in America expanded to include that it also matters WHERE you vote as to how much your vote counts – from a fraction to a multiple.
We’ll need True the Vote out there in ’12.
However, let’s be honest – we’re talking the People’s Socialist Republic of Massachusetts; I doubt that any elections were stolen from the Republicans.
Eric R.,
And just how many people do you think would “freely” vote for the Communist Party in any central Moscow precinct in the USSR of, say, 1988? Would that be 90% you think? And is Massachusetts (and not only), which is turning such figures from inner city precincts, anywhere near the 1989 USSR? Can it be that the USSR number of true commies are as high, percentage-wise, as the Massachusetts share of democrats/liberals/progressives/communists? I seriously doubt it. Unless…
I hear Democrats are spending $200million, no, $200 billion per day to stop Republicans from voting in Boston. No lie, I heard it on Fox.
One word of advice..get your ears cleaned and quit making things up.
But I heard it on Fox. Are you saying they made it up? Why would they do that?
Wow!, provide some links proving your assertion, otherwise GTFU.
everyone in america should be concerned about voter fraud. it undermines our democracy. the voter registration process in america is a farce. since the 1960′s voter registration advocates have fought to make it easier to register to vote. supposedly this is to increase voter participation. the real reason for making it easier to register was to facilitate voter fraud. look at how many voting districts have more registered voters than there are people eligible to vote. everyone should contact their elected representatives and demand that they reform the registation process. everyone should keep after them until they do. if we don’t we will never get rid of the machine politicans. we will keep having elections like this with rampant voter fraud. everyone should be opposed to voter fraud no matter who does it.
The “fraud” being described in this article is standard operating procedure in most low income neighborhood precincts. I was a poll watcher for True the Vote this past election and an overwelming majority of the electorate voting that day needed assistance of some sort and the poll clerks provided whatever was needed. However, most were registered in the book and also had ID proving their identity. All wanted to vote Democrat (they announced their vote to all concerned) so no coaching was necessary. While not strictly by the book, it is hardly fraud. Fraud is ballot stuffing, machine hacking and poll judges voting for people who did not actually show up. I saw none of this BS so I consider the result legitimate even though the result was 300 votes for Democrats and 3 for Republicans.
As my good comrade Stalin says, not even in the good ol’ soviet days, eh?
Tell me again why illiterates and illegals are voting. Is this Constitutional? You dont’t read English: you do not vote at all. If we must, we need to resort to Jim Crow laws. Somehow I fear that those laws may have stricken down in error.
Annie -Did you really mean to say that? Because if you did, that’s very scary! The Jim Crow laws were the segregation laws. You probably are referring to the Voting Rights Act, and maybe you ought to remember that women didn’t even get to vote until the 20th century.
Annie – you just flunked civics 101 – if people had to pass a civics test in order to vote, you wouldn’t be voting.
Ya gotta look on the bright side.
At least the Dems don’t lynch people to rig elections anymore, so we are making some progress.
True they have changed.. now they just “vote early and vote often”, even if they’re dead or not a citizen..
Right! Now if we can just get conservatives to stop tying gay kids to barb-wire fences an dragging black guys behind pickup trucks, we’ll really be on the road to somewhere.
“Right! Now if we can just get conservatives to stop tying gay kids to barb-wire fences…”
Yeah, meth-heads that cruise bars looking for people to beat and rob are almost always rock-ribbed Republicans.
Not.
It’s not whether you’re a Republican or not. Did I say Republican? I said conservative. Unless, of course, you think meth heads who cruise bars looking to beat innocents (and drag black people behind pickups, which you conveniently left out of your obfuscation) are Hollywood liberal types who just happened to be vacationing in Wyoming and Texas, where these two incidents took place.
But why quibble amongst ourselves? Let’s turn to the expert:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/29/virginia-foxx-story-of-ma_n_192971.html
That’s what I’m talking about.
I noticed that here in South Hadley MA they have combined all the voting precincts in to one place, the high school and had a big teachers meeting at the same time. I have had many tell me they could not vote because the traffic jam was two miles in one direction and three miles in the other, they simply did not have the hour and a half it took to vote. I got in to vote but I suspect thousands did not, guesstamation. At the entrance, the only entrance it was the typical gauntlet of posters, cards and circulars for the incumbent democrats. As usual, I send in my complaint and as usual, they tell me they did not see any wrongdoing according to the laws.
So the only way the Dims can win an election is to cheat, divide people into tribes, hate monger and lie with misanthrope billionairs like Soros and Gates
Win at any cost. The rules are irrelevant. The end justifies the means. Honor is irrelevant.
These statements represent the mindset of the 20% minority of Americans who self-identify as liberal or “progressive” (socialist/Marxist). This is the minority that would impose their policies and agenda on all Americans against their will.
I am a strong advocate for choice. If these folks want to live under socialism, or even a Marxist Dictatorship, they are free to re-locate to Venezuela, North Korea, or even Iran. They do not, however, have any right to impose their radical leftist beliefs on me, or my friends and family. We have laws and rules regulating free and fair elections for a reason, and there is no excuse for allowing these blatant violations to go un-punished. The corrupt Holder DOJ will clearly not prosecute violations which favor their proffered party, so our only recourse is to take our cases through state courts, and work to remove this corrupt administration.
Folks, we cannot allow our system to be corrupted and perverted by these “community organizers” as we preport to teach nations like Iraq Democracy. We cannot allow unscrupulous partisans to steal votes, and thus cheapening our legitimate votes. These election fraud artists need to be fully prosecuted for their crimes, and we can’t just let it go. We need to demand investigations and prosecutions, and if those responsible for doing it drag their feet or balk, we need to raise h3ll about it! They will push the envelope as far as we allow them to. We shouldn’t allow any leeway, and strongly demand that they uphold the law to the letter in this matter.
I’m actually a voter in Bwahney Fwank’s district. Ugh. I donated hundreds to Sean, went to a rally, urged my friends to vote for him, and even made calls for GOTV. It’s frustrating as hell to see that lying tub of arrogant s..t “win”, if it was under circumstances like these. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not surprised. This area is a working-class (for the most part, Sean is right that it’s a very gerrymandered, friggin weirdly shaped district) area, highly Portuguese (I’m not). Half of the calls I made … they barely spoke English … Fall River, or as we say here Fah Reevah. Sean’s vote totals were very respectable for a political newcomer, who had to fight a 20+ year entrenched Democrat in this area. My town actually went Red … just as it did in 2008. One of the few in Mass.
As far as the “Taxachusetts” thing, I used to live in New York, and it’s wayy worse there. Our income taxes, sales taxes, school taxes, property taxes … all lower. Not as low as Iowa, where I also lived for a while, but not as bad as New York.
It’s probably safe to say that if republicans were out in mass helping people figure out their ballot to vote republican, the democrats would be storming the walls to put a stop to it. But in Ma. if you have a D next to your name than the skies the limit and you do what you want. I’ve held signs on election day and was repeatedly told to keep 100 feet from the entrance to the polling place, but Kitty Dukakis ends up in Hingham, Ma standing by the door to a particular polling place encourageing people to vote democrat. There are rules and then there are deocratic rules.
As I have said before, civil war is coming, and soon. The putrid stench of evil that is passed off as “Law Enforcement” continues to ignore their oath of office to “…preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution…” and instead bow and scrape before their Masters and do WHATEVER they’re told.
I thank God every time he sends another of them to rot where they belong.
Where are the police? In White Plains, NY, if any of that happened from ANY party/group/whatever, they’d be in lock up fast should they fail to cease and desist immediately and move away to 100 feet (NY rules)!! In fact, there’d probably be a shoving match because the poll watchers/sitters for the $225 for the day would start the shoving out the door and calling for police backup. Too, occasional runners from the parties bringing back the “hot sheets” for more phone caller action and analysis by party committee heads for % of voters actually voting would get involved and call the lawyers’ committees and police.
CALL THE POLICE – THE STATE POLICE OR THE LOCAL MUNICIPAL – GO FOR THE ARREST NEXT TIME!!!!
I had to show my license to buy friggin Mucinex at CVS yesterday. Why shouldn’t I have to show my license to vote? Which rights “weigh” more: the alleged rights of those who might be inconvenienced by having to obtain a legitimate picture ID to insure that the most important civic function that they will participate in isn’t fraudulent; or the rights of all citizens who expect legal and legitimate voting practices?
I go with the latter, not the former…and I reject the notion that the tyranny of the minority (i.e. the minority of voters who are perpetually aggrieved and whose contrariness is cultivated by the Corruptocrats) can rule the day for this subject for much longer.
The policeman and poll watchers who allowed these crooks to go into the voting booth with voters should be arrested and fined and never allowed to work at the polls again. Any “interpretation” for bilinguals should be done openly and away from the voting booth and in front of the poll watchers. And what is wrong with the idiots who vote? Can’t they say get away from me? Why do they come to America and behave like subjects of a Communist dictator – they should be ashamed of themselves for undermining our system.
We should press Congress now to get basic requirement and appropriate punishments written into law – you do not get bilingual ballots – you either understand them or you do not – if you do not understand the most basic thing on a voting ballot you should not be voting – that makes absolutely no sense. You can vote, but you do not get interpreters nor bilingual ballots. You must be a citizen and you must show ID. Anyone who does not want basic integrity at a polling place is a crook.
Stand together people, fight back on this nonsense. We must not let progressives take us over. Be strong and fight this bs.
So, the people of Mass. have two years to organize. That is what obama does! Organize a group to go to the polling places and stand watch at the next election, and all elections after that. When they get out of line video it and call the police. If they refuse to do anything call the media, when they refuse to expose it call Fox News, they will help you!
My co-worker lives near Wocester. He told me he was shocked that no one asked for any identification when he went to vote. He said it was easy to see the list of possible voters and which were not crossed off. He felt it would be very easy to come back again and just use a different name since no one seemed interested in verifying identity.
Still waiting for evidence of that massive voter fraud. If there’s proof that more people voted in a precinct than are registered that ought to get the attention of the Secretary of the Commonwealth. Otherwise, the rest of the complaints here really don’t add up to anything folks but examples of highly organized grassroots work.
Two can play at that game, and I bet conservatives prove themselves better at grass roots organizing even though we’re new at it. Things like rain don’t keep us from voting.
GO for it! Nothings stopping anybody from organizing and pounding the pavement. Organize and get out the vote – drive seniors to the polls, go door to door and canvass homes – it isn’t exactly rocket science.
We already ARE going for it and it scares the hell out of the cheating-for-years left. “Nothing’s stopping anybody from organizing and pounding the pavement,” eh? You got that one thing right: even the Black Panthers and their despicable, illegal actions being ignored by the police will not stop us. Nor will the liberal media ignoring Dems Election Day illegalities and dishonestly shouting up poll watchers’ legal actions as illegal. Ready or not, here we come! And we are going to win. For a while, the Might of the intolerant anti-conservative left has pervailed, but wait til you see Might plus Right. You’re goners.
If you watch the blame scream media, you’ll never hear about Black Panthers at voting places (no, not 2 years ago, 8 days ago) even though abundant video exists. You’ll hear the unverified, not videoed allegations of whites’ intimidation of minority voters.Balderdash.
I was one of the poll watchers quoted in this article. I can not over stress how offend I was by the actions these people took and the crimes against society and our constitution. Please take a look at my complete text on this and other subjects at http://jefftoria.blogspot.com/
The liberties of our country, the freedoms of our civil Constitution are worth defending at all hazards; it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors. They purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood. It will bring a mark of everlasting infamy on the present generation – enlightened as it is – if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of designing men.” -Samuel Adams
The sad part is it is the entire DEMOCRAT party.
Anyone who votes democrat KNOWS they steal votes like this YET
they support the Party. By doing so they support stealing your vote.
Since we now know that the WHOLE DEMOCRAT Platform sanctifies stealing your vote, what else does every Democrat Sanctify stealing?
My guess is, that the Fish eating the little fish says it all.
We must convince our reasonable neighbors that this is a Psrty that MUST be stopped NOW before they are allowed to steal EVERYTHING.
Unfortunately, we may be too late.
Uh…how does this constitute “Massive Voting Fraud”? How did the author managed to hear so much amidst a room that he said was noisy and disorganized?
Where did these “outraged observers” write their comments? Was there a blog in the room?
Before anyone blasts me, I’m a conservative. I’m also for finding out the truth and not taking what someone in “pajamas” says as truth without questioning.
Gee. democRATS cheating? Talk about redundant.
Progressives don’t like to keep score. Until they win. Any soccer mom will be proof enough of that.
Although quite possible, as this person described the incidents at the voting place, I really doubt the probability as well as the veracity of the statements made. The one largest thing that makes me doubt most of the story is that when the picture was taken of the N2N shirt, why wasn’t it taken while the so called interpreter was actually in the booth with the voter? I’m surprised that PJM would post this story when the holes in it are so easy to punch.
Why would there be bilingual ballots? I thought everyone had to know English before becoming a citizen?
Now that all these irregularities are being reported, what happens? What action will be taken to punish the wrong doers and get a new election?
If you cannot read you shouldn’t vote. You are unqualified. Your opinions on any matter shall reflect only what you have heard and from whom you heard it. How do you like me now? I also feel if you own no property you are unqualified to vote. You have no investment in the Land. Go away.
Only property owning adults should be allowed to vote. Yes. I said that.
I’m with ya Odins, and I think that’s what the U.S. Constitution first said – cept too bad the only real land owners were the Native Americans so none of ya should be voting! hahaha, yep I said it too. Get off my land.
Take it if you can.
Why weren’t these elections challenged by the conservatives? Are there not enough of them with big enough gonads that they could have demanded the ballots be thrown out and force another election? See,this is the problem with conservatives….. we have allowed the “Big Fish”,which is a very small minority,to chow down on the huge majority of “little fish”. We outnumber them by more than 2-1 but they always seem to have the bigger and more vocal voice,and they are willing to do anything to win…. and we let them do it.
These things happened while workers were not sleeping but working. Unions and ACORN type organizations organized non-workers against workers. If we workers organize, we can move back up the food chain.
This would explain how Bawney Fwank was looking like an endangered species in the polls, but won in a landslide. This is obvious fraud by the description of the activities. I am sure Eric Holders DOJ will look the other way though.
Having one person go into the voting booth to “assist” a voter, for whatever reason, is blatantly fraudulent. When my children were young, I would work the polls on election day. In Ohio, each precinct has 2 republican and 2 democratic poll workers. If someone needs assistance they are assisted by 2 people (1 republican and 1 democrat).
I would like to hear the logic of letting anyone vote if they don’t speak English and/or so disoriented appearing that they obviously cannot make a cogent decision even about where they are.
AND, DEFINITELY….NO BUSES ALLOWED. I DON’T KNOW ANYONE THAT NEEDS A BUS TO GO TO VOTE UNLESS ITS A REGULARLY SCHEDULED, CITY/METRO BUS. ALL THESE BUSSES COME FROM SOUP KITCHENS OR BARS WHERE N2N OR ACORN TYPE GROUPS HAVE SPENT TAXPAYER MONEY OR NOT, TO DELIVER “PAID FOR” VOTES.
Let’s get real about this thing we Americans call the VOTE. It’s something sacred and protected by the sacrifice and blood of our best and brightest….our military.
If you can’t show BELIEVABLE ID OR YOU DON’T KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE OR YOU REPRESENT A DEAD PERSON, OR YOU ARRIVE IN A CHARTERED BUS, YOU DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE,PERIOD….AND YOUR SHEPHERDS SHOULD BE ARRESTED.
ITS A PRIVILEGE AND A DUTY……NOT SOMETHING YOU GET PAID FOR. THAT’S ALREADY BEEN DONE BY OUR BRAVE MILITARY, GET IT??
Deke, this isn’t Ohio: if you read the law and the Code of Mass. Regulations you’ll see that you’re wrong. Voters are allowed to bring someone in to assist them if they need help reading or are disabled, see my earlier posts.
This is like the proverb of trying to lead the horse to water but not being able to make it drink, except in this case you can try to lead the posters here to information but you can’t make them THINK.
People – just saying it’s fraud doesn’t make it so.
IT’S LEGAL – GET OVER IT OR PETITION YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES TO CHANGE THE LAW.
And see my earlier post. Poll workers really are allowed to assist the disabled and even the just plain stupid. However–and listen closely–poll watchers are allowed to observe within close hearing and seeing distance because the voter has already willingly surrendered his right to a secret ballot.
Selective legal expertise again. Liberals are good at that.
Yes, poll workers are allowed to assist or, and here’s the part you just don’t like, the voter is allowed, under MASSACHUSETTS law (remember this isn’t Texas) to bring a person of their choosing in with them. Plain, simple and very clear. This has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative – it’s called reading the law. Try it – makes it easier to articulate a rational argument.
Yes, even here in good old stupid but somehow wealthy as all git out Texas, we have the same law. And poll watchers ignore the voter who is so stupid he/she has to bring in someone to remind them to pull the D lever instead of the R. Can’t do nothin’ about stupid. We ignore those. It’s the same as talking at home and then dragging an ignoramus in. What has been in the news (if you care to make a rational argument) is that the paid PJ (Presiding Judge if you aren’t familiar with the term) and the paid poll workers the PJ selected are not allowed to assist without the AJ (Alternate Judge from the other party) and the non-paid poll watchers. This is where the PJ and workers got a little excited and tried to intimidate the poll watchers from exercising their legal rights. This is where the voter has surrendered his right to a secret ballot, when he/she asks for help from the PJ and his/her workers because they are politically affiliated. Learn anything?
And that has exactly what connection to the topic of voter fraud in Massachusetts? Answer: nothing. The issue here is whether there was a violation of state law – Massachusetts state law. Whether the same conduct is permissible in Texas is irrelevant.
Ok, fine then, no helping old and handicapped people at the polls, and while we’re at it, lets do away with those mail-in ballots, half of those are filled out by people who need assistance as well.
Did you ever stop to think that perhaps the person voting was BLIND? And that’s why the helper needed to fill in the ovals for them? Remember, I said I did just that for my own grandmother, I guess someone could have taken a picture of me and said “look at this democrat voting for this republican woman”.
The title of this thread shows how cons spin…there was ZERO voter fraud proven in this case, but the title says ‘massive’, but the team didn’t stop to ask why this woman was asking for assistance with her ballot, now did they? They just assumed that this woman helping because she was with that group MUST have been voting for them.
If democrats can no longer assist people getting to the polls, remember, that…because since most elderly people vote republican- you might have a much harder time winning any election from here on out. I would think that it would be their right to have help if they request it, but cons won’t let that happen. Maybe this should go to SCOTUS so that we can have a ruling on the way cons are trying to remove handicapped people’s right to have assistance in the voting booth?
My buddy kidded with me that he had his autistic step-son with him when he voted and he thought of taking him into the polls with him as the kid is registered to vote. Of course, he didn’t, because he said he wouldn’t feel right about doing it. Also, of course, he’s a conservative.
Voter Fraud…check
Democrat Elected…check
This does not surprise me. I am qyite sure my Union SEIU was one of the “little fish” making up the big fish. Even so, I reported on potential voter registration fraud to both the Republican State Committee and to Fox News. I work for the Mass.
Department of Mental Health. I used to on the area Multi-Cultural Committtee. Douring one meeting there was a discussion regarding illegal immigrants. One of the people at the meeting reported problems that some of his clients (both illegal of which there me have been 1 or 2 and legal who were not yet American Citizens) had when they went to the Registry of Motor Vehicles to apply for their driver’s licences. In Lynn, Lawrence, and Lowell they were told that they had to go to a table to sign some forms before they left. Thjey went to the table and all of the forms were in English. They were told what boxes to check off and where to sign. Only several weeks afterwards did they learn that they had registered to vote! They were afraid to tell anyone beciase they might get deported. So there you have it. (Due to confidentiality laws, the DMH personell are fobidden to report the names of clients and their illegal actions).
Starting to think New Zealand is looking better and better…..
“Voter Mobilization
We ask every voter to fill out a “pledge” to vote in the upcoming elections. On election day, volunteers at the polling stations check off who has voted. Then, we get in touch with people who haven’t voted and make sure they can get to the polls.”
The above quote is directly for Neighbor to Neighbor MA website – boasts of 93,000 brought to the polls this past election….I saw the fraud first hand – had heard about this and decided I needed to see for myself – Well, it is not just “getting out the vote”when wardens and poll workers turn a blind eye as these blindly led about “voters” who sneak a peak at their neighbor’s ballot ( like a child cheating in on a test), or instruct them in Spanish when the ballot is in Spanish! Now why haven’t we spent tax dollars to translate for all nationalities?
What is so pathetic is these people don’t even realize they are being used. I strongly urge all of you readers to take the plunge – sign up to be a poll observer in just about any major city in New England and see for yourself – but don’t expect much cooperation should you challenge a ballot. These folks believe everyone has the right to vote – gee, and I thought it was a responsibility!
Dems frown upon laws requiring photo ID to vote….while Republicans believe it’s fundamental.
all you need to know right there
They are ACORN renamed… dig, you will find the same people..
And they’re the ones who try to lie and kick legitimate poll watchers out. Nothing drives them crazier than standing between them and fraudulent voting. Legit precincts don’t mind poll watchers; crooked PJs and crooked poll workers in crooked precincts mind very much.
There seems to be more than enough evidence in most of the reported cases to prosecute and convict these individuals of voter fraud. If we dont do it then we are contributing to the demise of our Country. We must prosecute these indivudals and organizations to restablish the rule of law and ethical behaviour.
I agree. You’d almost think it’d be a goot idea to take some of these photos and witnesses and drive them to the FBI or police to get an investigation under way.
But writing a story about it with unattributed quotes on a blog site is a lot easier, I agree. It’s also a lot harder to disprove if nobody actually checks the claims being made.
I saw an alien in my backyard last night. One of my neighbours reckons they saw it too. If I could attach images I could show you a drawing I made. I think there should be an investigation, do you agree?
You can’t prosecute unless it’s a crime. It isn’t a crime unless the law makes it a crime and provides a criminal punishment. The punishment for the law cited by the author is a $20 fine. You really think the FBI is going to investigate this? Even if they did the voters who were accompanied would in all likelihood say that they wanted these people to go with them to help them for some lawful reason so then where are you? Answer: no place.
Wow. It took a while for somebody to come up with a reason why “massive voter fraud” needn’t be investigated by anybody with the power to do so.
I’m with Arapaho below. I could have written this article from australia. I didn’t even need to be there. A couple of photos of perfectly legitimate activity – or even illegimate activity somewhere in the world at some time, and a bunch of unattributed claims and I’d have my story. The only way that story can be made credible is if the evidence is given to somebody who can check it out. This story is just rumor.
Individual offenses might only get a 20$ file, but an organized effort to skew votes would, I’m pretty sure, attract something a bit more significant.
Check out this thread:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-day-after/#comment-682405
I tried to get some posters to explain what they meant when they claimed that voter fraud was rampant in the US. They came up with two stories that were utterly bogus, and refused to even explain what they meant for the rest of their claims. The concept of “evidence” was completely missing.
If this is what conservatives mean when they say there is massive voter fraud in the US then I’m sorry, but I’m just not buying it.
Massachusetts citizens and elected representatives opposed to the union run gangster government should refuse to recognize the legitimacy of the results. Perhaps a plague of conservative lawyers donating court time and filing legal challenges, coupled with a well orchestrated campaign of civil disobedience and tax protests / revolts and whatever other tactics conservatives can utilize to make the state impossible to run should be employed.
Look we can commesearate all we want. But it does no good. We need to take action.
So what are you prepared to do to fight progressives?
Massachusetts is the last place on earth where Dems would need to cheat at the polls. Soooo hopelessly deep, dark blue !!
As far as investigative journalism goes, this article is a huge disappointment and it’s really all opinion and no fact. This should be an editorial or it should be prefaced with the statement that this is nothing more than the writers personal opinion because the facts are sadly absent. I expected to read that folks who are not lawfully registered to vote or that dead people were voting. Instead the evidence of “fraud” is that volunteers were accompanying voters.
Where’s the beef? No crime in that folks.