Marco Rubio’s Ham-Handed Treatment of the Immigration Issue
With his ham-handed treatment of the immigration issue, Rubio has insulted those moderate Republicans who support comprehensive immigration reform — George W. Bush, Jeb Bush, Carlos Gutierrez, Norm Coleman, Jon Huntsman, et al. They all stuck their necks out on this issue and took heat for it.
The problem isn’t just that Rubio made all these missteps. It’s that, when the issue is immigration, he’s not in a position to make any. He’s not like most of his Republican colleagues in Washington. He has an additional burden, stemming from his own ethnic background. As a Cuban-American whose father and mother came to this country in the late 1950s — even before that unique form of “amnesty” called the 1966 Cuban Adjustment Act provided Cuban refugees myriad ways to enter the United States legally — Rubio needs to tread lightly on this issue. Not every immigrant from Latin America, or the Caribbean, or Africa, or Asia gets the red carpet treatment afforded to many Cubans — at least those who can reach the U.S. shoreline.
Above all, Marco Rubio forgot the “eight minute rule.”
There are Mexican-Americans in states like Arizona, Texas, and New Mexico who can trace their ancestry in this country back hundreds of years. Many of them are rightfully offended when they’re profiled by local police, or words like “amnesty” are thrown around, or the 14th Amendment is threatened, or when college students brought here by their parents are denied a shot at legal status. And so when you’re a junior senator, and you clumsily stomp into that morass, it doesn’t hurt to be humble — especially when your own family has only been in this country for the equivalent of eight minutes.
Ruben Navarrette is a one track record, Mexican’s this and Mexican’s that, why is it that he never says anything about another countries illegals like Chinese. We get illegal Mexican Nationals and they can’t speak or read English, they immediately go on welfare and they take jobs from Americans that can’t get jobs if they paid for them. If we must have illegals, lets have some Chinese, they will assimilate, most can already speak English and are degree’d, their children will be polite, educated and will have the work ethic given to them by their parents. The only reason Mexican’s are wanted is so they can vote Democrat for welfare, food stamps, free housing, money, health care and Social Security. Getting non educated dummies is a losing game for this country, no other country in the world would go for a deal like that, why should we for the Democrats, their intent isn’t honorable and we already have enough of Mexico’s criminals in prisons to last several life times.
ronnor you summed it up very VERY well. the writer of this post is just another one of the AMNESTY seekers. he can’t seem to understand the difference between legal and illegal immigration. you have those who truely want to come here to work. and you have those who truely come here for the wellfare. what realy pisses me and a lot of other people are the ones who come here and are immediately put on social security when they have never paid in one dime. thanks to that other IDIOT james earl carter. why are democrats sooo STUPID???
Senor Navarrette,
Please stop with your tribal cry baby act. Illegal immigrants deserve to be sent back to their home countries (aka deported). If they wish to immigrate to the U.S., they can apply for a VISA from their home country like everyone else. The so called dream act is nothing more than amnesty for those who were so unscrupulous that they illegally crossed the boarder with their minor children. Not my problem. Illegal is illegal. Go home!!
Mr. Navarrette attacks Rubio’s bold positions by attacking the more lenient components of it (exemptions for farm workers and household helpers)…. and calls him ham-handed. He offers no serious alternatives of his own other than, one must conclude from his psycho-logic, “blanket amnesty”. Such encapsulated thinking form a national correspondent is unacceptable. Reagan’s amnesty solution was a mistake. The effects of it are burdening our country beyond it’s capacity to bear. He and his ilk would have us make the same mistake twice.
Your are 100% correct, Steven! When in doubt….ship ‘em out…every last one of them. But don’t get my reasoning wrong…I love Hispanic people. Most of them are harder working and more self-reliant than much of our own population. Illegals simply DO NOT BELONG HERE!
If it’s any consolation, it sure looks like Ruben Navarrette is running out of steam whining:
he’s now trying to pit Americans of Mexican descent against those of Cuban descent.
Pathetic racism on Navarrette’s part.
We are Reconquering the Southwest…and you gringos can’t stop us. Our population is rapidly growing, and the gringo population is aging and declining. We are over 50 million and united. You are down to 63.7% and extremely divided…and will be a minority by 2041. We are already a majority of the population under 18 in California, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona… and are rapidly taking over Nevada, Colorado, and Florida.
We are young and vigorous. You gringos are old and tired. We are the future. Your time has passed. We have defeated you without firing a shot. It is too late for you gringos to stop us from taking over the country. Gringos are down to only 53.5% of the population under 18…and a minority of births since 2010. You will soon be a minority, and lose control of your own destiny. We will control who gets elected President. We will dominate California, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona…and will be the swing voters in Nevada, Colorado, and Florida. Whoever doesn’t do La Raza’s bidding will be thrown out of office.
We have Reconquered the Southwest from you gringos without firing a shot. Don’t you see that we have defeated you? You have no leaders, no hope, no future. You gringo will soon pay the price for you sins against us. The 21st century will undo and reverse the 19th century. It is only a matter of time. We are nearly there. In a few years it will all be over for you gringos. For The Race everything. Outside The Race nothing.
yeh laraza and then the U.S. will be like mexico. where will you go then??? to damned far to go to england to ruin them!!
Good question, Vagabond. And why is Mexico such a hellish craphole that its citizens would rather die in the desert than try to live there? Why are there 8 murders a day (per the excellent film) in Juarez, where the middle class has emigrated south and the rich have come north, and the only employment is running drugs, killing people, and general gang mayhem? Why do Mexicans have to leave Mexico to find a decent job with a decent future, or start a business that might provide jobs for dozens or hundreds of others?
Could it be that Mexico is a Marxist hellhole like Cuba or the failed Soviet Union? Is this what you mean, Vagabond, when you accuse illegal aliens of trying to make our country more like Mexico or whatever failed neo-Stalinist kakistocracy our chief executive was born to? It would seem so to me.
As to ruining England, we can leave that to the Muslims, who have made excellent progress in upending English law and replacing it with Sharia. For the Mexicans, corrupting England is a lost opportunity.
Where will they go indeed?
Then you will be living in the $h!t-hole you left.
You racist pendejo, you are counting too much on gov’t protection, when the real Americans have their way with you wetbacks you’ll wish the only raza you had to worry about was how to outrun a bullet.
We are CONQUERING the Southwest without firing a shot, you gringos aren’t even trying to stop us. La Raza is a majority of the population under 18 in California, Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona…which means very soon we will be an outright majority, and you gringos will be powerless. Both parties will do what we tell them, or they will suffer the consequences. We will soon DOMINATE the Southwest…and we already are the swing voters in the swing states: Colorado, Nevada, Florida etc. It is all over for you gringos. For The Race everything. Outside The Race nothing.
You are one arrogant SOB. Better have your running shoes on when the “gringos” have had enough. And MOST have! You won’t be able to get out of here fast enough. I would LOVE to have a video of all of you running for the boarders so fast that you’re tripping over each other to save your a**es! Think the day won’t come? People have had enough of idiots like you, as well as our own government sitting on their hands.
There will come a day, and it will come very soon, you won’t know whether the “gringo” next to you is friend or foe, because MOST have had it with attitudes like yours and people like you.
Good Luck with that!
You are deluded. We have CONQUERED you without firing a shot. La Raza is 50 million strong…and by 2050 we will be 135 million concentrated in the Southwest that borders Mexico. La Reconquista is almost comnplete. We are taking back the Southwest, the land that you gringos stole from us in the 19th century. Demographics Is Destiny. We are repopulating the country. It is all over for you gringos. By 2041 you gringos will be a minority. A minority that is aging, shrinking and dying. By 2050 we will be 135 million strong, about 30% of the population — and an even greater percentage of children. We will soon be an outright majority.
La Raza is different than you gringos. La Raza is extremely loyal. We all got each others back. When push comes to shove you will see how strong we are. La Raza is united…and you gringos are very divided. You are no match for us. You are suicidal. You have surrendered your country without firing a shot. We are taking over, and there is nothing you can do to stop us. It is too late for you gringos — unless you can invent a time machine and go back 50 years… Your situation is hopeless. We are the future. You gringos will wind up in the dustbin of history. For The Race everything. Outside The Race nothing.
This is the way the world ends.
This is the way the world ends.
This is the way the world ends.
Not with a bang but a whimper.
T.S Eliot – The Gringo Man
Thanks for being so honest. Most of us knew that was your goal but could not convince other Americans of your real intentions. Remember this, Jose, if you indeed take over the southwest, you can bet your taco that there will be a civil war and we will be coming for you.
Good luck trying to run two countries, with 400+ million people, when you can’t run one country with 100 million (otherwise, why are so many risking their lives to come here?).
My grandmother used to say “Be careful what you wish for, you might get it”.
La Raza, you are wrong. A movement based on hate cannot last. Throughout history all such empires have been terribly destroyed. Your anger, greed, envy, lust, false pride and sloth will combine to turn any country you steal into another Mexico. A “pais” controlled by druglords and nominally operated by incompetent whitecollar criminals. A land in which the national motto is not, “In God we trust”; but “La Mordida”.A land in which hate is praised and thievery admired. A land in which deception is acceptable and expected. A land whose people are starving and desperate. Why? Because they choose to be amoral and illogical. Incompetence and inefficiency are the orders of the day. Sloppy, slovenly work is the usual. Deceit is the accepted methodology. An hostile dependence pervades all. Y’all will not change. You will stubbornly self-destruct. Remember San Jacinto, and weep for your grandchildren.
Your attitude toward me, a white person and US citizen, is why I hope you decide to go back to Mexico. You don’t actually want to assimilate to American culture. You want to conquer me and rule me and punish me. Please go away and leave my country alone.
Though it’s unclear if you’re one of La Raza’s serious thinkers or a 12-yr old just having some fun while he’s out of school for the summer, you are quite the spectacle.
I thought that disciples of Black Liberation Theology had the self-victimization market cornered but I believe you could take ‘em hands down.
I’m from Texas and count many members of “La Raza” among friends. If you are serious, how devestating it must be to face the reality that most of those millions you count want nothing to do with your antagonistic, nonsensical point of view.
Sacred ground this, go back to Europe that (never mind you probably have Spanish blood flowing through your viens) but no viable plans on how your motherland would be governed. Perhaps you dream of an expanded Mexico, eh? There’s a plan – enlarge the impoverished, failed narco state, it’s just you won’t have the good ol’ USA to leech off of anymore – Decapitations for all!
Excellent Post. Where do you stand on the immigration issue?
So what are your plans for after the takeover? Ethnic cleansing?
Well be prepared that if your scenario succeeds and there is no longer a legal government, we will shoot first and ask questions later.
La Raza? Oye estupido, your diatribe is based on tired old assumptions. As an American of Hispanic descent,(not Cuban-America), I resent being lumped with communist Mexican-Americans and Illegal aliens. Most Americans of hispanic origin will never accept a stupid Chicano political move like the one you dream of. Freedom, Democracy, and Capitalism made America great, and we will fight to keep it that way. Entiende?
Thank you Indio for your comment. It is people like you that give great hope for this country. I would be proud to stand next to you in this fight, brother!
Suits me La Raza…I’m pretty tired of being stereotyped and demonized as a “white racist oppressor” by the affirmative action sponsored overgrowth of bigots in America including the one in the Whitehouse. So come on over and take your turn at supporting America’s generations of welfare dependent “historical black victims.”
What…get carried away by your “historical Mexican victims” rant and forgot all about America’s “historical black victims.” Well, you can’t ALL be “historical victims” you know; somebody’s got to work and pay for the food stamps.
Hehheh…the trouble with your plan to vote in pro-Mexican political bigots to use stereotypes and history lessons to mandate racial favoritism, is that another set of bigots got there first. Will be far more interesting that you think to see what happens next, given that 99.9% of the global population is too stupid to tell the difference between a stereotype and a human being.
Ok, racista, why do all these Latino people who are supposedly taking over the US, still, despite multilingual and multicultural pathos, and despite welfare programs that make some of them dependent on the this country, STILL(!) assimilating at high rates?
It is because your tired ideas of being victims and losers just don’t sell very well. Most people prefer to raise a family and make a living. We don’t call this the land of opportunity for nothing.
Atzlan and greater Atzlan are no more than la-la land for Latino Marxists and other grievance merchants who should just get a job or get a better education.
La Raza. “The Race”. What a joke. The only “race” you clowns are interested in is the one to the border. Mexico is nearly as old as the United States, and you still can’t drink the water or support your own population even though you have the same advantages in climate and resources.
You think you’re going to reconquer the Southwest? Good luck on that. You couldn’t hold it then, and you can’t hold it now. Remember, Mexico City was set afire by an “old gringo” once before, and we can do it again if need be.
What you mistake for passivity may be, in fact, the last bit of patience Americans have. The leaders of many nations have miscalculated the will of the American people.
You’re making the same mistake.
I work with hispanic kids in Florida a lot and they are cute. I don’t want to have anything against hispanics, but enough is enough. We are being turned into a 3rd world left wing country. I take la raza’s warning seriously. Whites in the southwest will be raped, slaughtered, and enslaved. I don’t know what to do about it since Washington is paid off to turn us into a 3rd world country. The Constitution is not good folks. I promise I love the bill of rights and seperation of powers, but the make up of the constitution creates a small oligarchy that is corruptable. Six years is too long to give to a politician to destroy America. We need a States rights amendment where a majority of the States can vote legislation by a popular vote. THen we could vote out the Fed reserve, secure the borders, and ban immigration for 5 to 10 years.
Thanks,
JACK
Does it bother you that it took the Gringo to drag Aztlan out of the Paleolithic epoch? Now that the Gringo has brought modern medicine, infrastructure, and technology you want it back? After you’ve successfully “conquered” the Southwest back into the status of Third World sewer, where you will then go to parasitize the Gringo?
La Raza. LOL. A Cargo Cult in the making. No wonder your ancestors thought the Spaniards were gods when they waded ashore.
LaRaza,
Not the smartest bunch in town, but then mexico does not look like a collection of the brightest in town their either. Well, so you are going to turn a few states into versions of mexico, guess that means you will have to run some more borders as those you listed will become poor and filled with more starving mexicans.
Reuben – A sensible, reasoned approach is the answer, of course. Please explain how the people who think like the commenter above (“La Raza”) will come to the table. The person is filled with hatred for others who are unlike himself/herself, vitriol and fear. I hope it’s a plant to stir up the situation, but from my experience, I think it is not.
INVADERS. Sneaks and liars and rapists and murderers, stealing what they won’t work for, what they do not deserve, what they don’t appreciate when they do get it. Bad character, low intelligence, lazy. Try that on for size, Mehiko.
Our Constitution is explicit on protection of our sovereignty. The Oaths of Office taken by our elected office holders have the words spilling out of their mouths from the fountain of lies in their hearts. Swear to protect the citizens of the USA, their lives, property, sovereignty AND to protect their borders from INVASION. They have slickly twisted words to keep citizens focused on Illegals, Illegal Aliens, all terms based on Immigration. NOT TRUE. We are being INVADED, and that FACT is even stated here by a commenter who tells us they are taking over this country, it was theirs before we arrived, blah blah stupidity of reason… however, fact again, is they are simply outnumbering citizens and laughing at us. Those gals who can’t wash their own dishes, and hire cheap labor like the sweet smiling pretty little Mexican, and give her a room in their home with tv, toilet, fridge, etc. and “hide” her from “Immigration” officials, is a TRAITOR to the USA. She is a TRAITOR who is worse than the slithering INVADERS. She is giving away our country so that she can look “good” socially. She is dangerous to the USA. So, back it up to the elected officials who want one world government which requires destruction of the sovereignty of the USA. Everybody knows the mentality of the whites who made this country the greatest in the world vs the low comprehension of the people of countries that are crumbling and horrible places for “middle class” people to live, most of those countries do not even have a “middle class” (and ours is being hit hard by the jealous destroyers). One thing needs to be recognized by the INVADERS and the politicians who want to destroy us, (politicians who have been in power more than 2 terms and the communist in the Oval Office): Americans are not what you think. Americans are going to destroy YOU. You keep digging us and we will bury you INVADERS and supporters. We will take no prisoners. Get your kids out of this country, out of our schools, run run run while you can. Grin and think you have “got” us. OUTNUMBERED and not sufficiently armed, a bunch of rag tag angry citizens fought and beat the crap out of the biggest strongest military power in the world a few years ago, and citizens will clean up this mess without the military homo’s who have pushed into our soldiers and want to keep wars going because of the field it gives them, and they pass military leadership around to their pals and get themselves advanced to protected positions like Betrayus skipped away from “leading” military to now head of CIA (rotten and must be cleaned up by citizens) and a new homo pushes his way into Betrayus’ job and politicians who are power hungry homo’s who want more power for more fun. BEWARE BEWARE BEWARE, run away now. Yes, calling them homo’s because they are self-everything which centers everything they think or do, on themselves.
Pardon me if I’m having just a bit of trouble understanding the author’s logic.
How can Arizona’t immigration law be unconstitutional when it mirrors Federal immigration law? You know, the ones that both the Bush and Obama administrations failed to enforce? Arizona is merely trying to enforce our immigration laws, which Obama is reluctant to do. It’s no secret that the Democrat Party would be the first ones to scream about securing our southern border if they thought for one second that the many illegals flooding our country might possibly vote Republican. That is the primary reason for the Dream Act, to expand the Democrats’ power base.
Also, why does the author seek to confuse those who came here legally with those who didn’t? This is a very common tactic by the “open borders” crowd. If you were to ask, you’d find that we are not hostile to those who want to become Americans. We welcome those who would contribute to our society by assimilating and embracing our rich culture. We have a problem with those who cross our border illegally, thereby ignoring our laws as their first official act inside our country. We have a problem with a large underground network of illegal immigrants who refuse to assimilate but have no problem taking advantage of programs intended for the use of American citizens.
The problem is compounded by the popular, but totally false, media meme that illegals need a “path to citizenship,” which curiously implies that we don’t have a Department of Immigration and Naturalization or established procedures for becoming a legal citizen. The path is simple: if you are here illegally, go home and get in line like everyone else. There is nothing at all unfair about it, since the process is fairly uniform for all seeking entry.
The author would have us think that Senator Rubio is on the wrong side of the issue, when he merely opposes Rubio’s stance on the issue.
Also, if you want to better understand those who wish to destroy our country and our way of life, and replace it with all the graft, corruption and third-world squalor that are the hallmarks of many Latin banana republics, read the above comment from “La Raza.” While I hope that comment is meant to be satire, I doubt that it is. Sadly, these are the people with whom the author apparantly agrees.
Hahaha… We march in the streets of the largest cities waving Mexican flags and shout and scream about how we are Reconquering the Southwest and taking over the country, and you stupid gringos still refuse to believe us.
We are CONQUERING the country thanks to your suicidal behavior. Because for you to give up your nation without firing a shot, is the sign of a suicidal people…and that’s the gringo today. The gringos loss, is La Raza’s gain. You have lost your country. We have defeated you — without firing a shot. It’s all over for the gringo.
Even right-wing gringos admit that they have lost, that they have been defeated by La Raza, that they no longer control their own destiny. Demographics Is Destiny. We are young and vigorous. You gringos are old and tired. We are the future. Your time has passed. We have CONQUERED you.
Goodbye, White America
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You can’t even admit that we have defeated you. You have no leaders, no hope, no future. We will soon undo and reverse the 19th century. It is only a matter of time. We are nearly there. In a few years it will all be over for you gringos. For The Race everything. Outside The Race nothing.
“The Race is everything.” Ah!Like the Aryan.
Your color is showing. In every way–it’s brown.
Um, I think he is being sarcastic. No one could so stupid as to actually believe that drivel.
You know Steve, I’m starting to think this guy’s a reverse Moby. You know, some Aryan Nations stooge trying to whip up the commenters around here. Either way, real La Raza or fake, he’s a pissant.
Hey, dick wad, how’s the master race doing in Mexico at the moment? Looks like paradise lost to me with all that homeboy brother love going down among the mestizos brawling over Mexican Brown and market share. I guess beheadings over heroine is an improvement over ripping hearts out for the sun god. A couple hundred white spaniards took you boys down five hundred years ago, we can do it again. Hey, stealing the southwest fair and square was child’s play, you ain’t seen nothing yet. Wait till we annex Mexico and provide you home boys with all those constitutional protections and a working economy you idiots secretly crave. We can do a little reformation south of the border, protestants kicking some catholic ass, hey? For the state everything; outside the state nothing!
We should adopt Mexico’s immigration laws.
Hey troll, you sound like Baghdad Bob.
La Raza is a joker. But he encapsulates the MeCha / La Raza viewpoint better than they do themselves. That IS how they look at us! And they are aided and abetted by an unholy alliance of country club conservatives out to outflank the minimum wage and ethnic grievance leftists. We had better get ourselves ready.
So Rubio thinks that he knows immigration as well as anyone? If that’s true, then why is the Republican’s approach to the issue so simplistic, shallow, flawed, and utterly predictable?
The answer, Ruby? It’s not. You just don’t like his position on the issue. You also lack the intellectual honesty to admit that not everybody sees this issue the way that Left-wing Chicanos do.
Actually it is a simple issue. If you immigrated to this country legally your are an immigrant. If you sneak across the border or overstay a visa and are not here legally you are NOT an immigrant, you are an illegal alien criminal. You deserve to be treated as the criminal that you are. If you are here legally you deserve the respect of that accomplishment and should not have it denigrated by being classed in with illegal aliens by calling them immigrants.
The usual lies from Navarette. Probably looking for another guest spot with Medved.
Senor LaRaza – Screw you and the Spanish horse you rode in on in the 17th century! All hail John Locke!
We have already RECONQUERED the entire Southwest — California, Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona. We will soon have control of Nevada, Colorado, Florida, and Utah. After that, we will proceed to invade, conquer, and colonize the entire country. We are repopulating the country. We will eventually drive all you gringos out of the country, to Canada, back to Europe, whatever, just get out of this country because we’re taking over, and we don’t want you racist gringos here. We will drive you out of here as sure as I’m standing here. For The Race everything. Outside The Race nothing.
Does that mean anyone of you with Spanish DNA will also have to go back to Europe? What kind of government do you plan on establishing if you “conquer” this country? Are you advocating a “one race” country? Seriously, what exactly is your purpose and why? Why do you hate US citizens so much (none of whom were alive during any of the US/Mexican war, many of whom are probably related to you or have mixed ancestry). There is not a single “race” of Mexicans either. You sound like Hitler.
Yeah yeah. Just finish sweeping off my sidewalk, Paco. There ya go.
Exactly Dr. Frank…I can’t speak for everybody, but I will speak for Texas. Hey, Paco – remember the Alamo.
La Raza–
Your “talking points” are showing, and you are repetitively boring.
Does someone just push a button and the canned speech comes out?
“The Race,” and their brown uniforms were booted out of AZ during our SN-1070 trial, bussed-in from CA.
Where were your supporters when some of you were jailed here for breaking the law? Who bailed you out, and paid the fines?
You were USED by unions from CA and will continue being USED, but you haven’t figured that out yet.
So your going to take over America hum?
Would that be before, or after you drop-out of school?
The race, as call yourself, has the highest school drop-out rate of all ethnic groups. Your arrest records also the highest, as gang memebers, rape, murder, child abuse, spousal abuse and the highest sexual abuse warrants in the S/W.
Did you learn this behavior in the cesspools of MX or South America that’s OK to beat- up woman and children and also sexually abuse them?
In English or Spanish, your rants: a slimy example to all decent hispantics ethnic cultures that have settled the South West. They learned how to improve society, with the cultural talents they brought with them. What are yours?
There are Mexican-Americans in states like Arizona, Texas, and New Mexico who can trace their ancestry in this country back hundreds of years.
Excellent point. It’s also true that they are not the ones agitating for amnesty for illegals (unless like Eva Longoria they are given an opportunity for self-aggrandizement by a pandering POTUS).
Note that even those in the SW who can trace their ancestry in the geographic territory of the US back hundreds of years are still Mexican-Americans. They have not assimilated.
Man oh man, Pajama Media who is your pendejo or pendeja? This author is on the wrong side of border to be shooting his piehole off on this subject. Fair & balanced is okay but this article may as well have been written by one of those la raza butt holes. Obviously you don’t know squat about the constitution or federal law nor states rights. I’d like to see you & those like you in the unemployment line. Just curious, did you vote for that phony phuck bozObama?
Rubio, you’re my kind of guy. RUBIO FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!
He’s got my vote if/when he runs!
You don’t understand Senator Rubio’s position on immigration because he is an American and you are a Mexican. Simple as that.
It’s one of the reasons that Rubio’s stock has dropped with
Latino votersLeft-wing Chicanos outside Florida’s Cuban-American community, which represents just 3 percent of the U.S. Latino population.FIFY
Rubio’s main selling point to fellow Republicans — in Congress and the presidential campaign trail — had been that he might be able to help the GOP make peace with disaffected Latinos in the Southwest who are tired of being treated like piñatas by opportunistic Republican politicians.
Gee, that’s funny. Ruby, aren’t you the one who has been accusing the Obama administration and his Democrat allies of treating “disaffected Latinos in the Southwest” as piñatas? So, which is it? Democrats, Republicans…other non-Mexican Latinos? Or is it that you are the blindfolded one swinging a stick wildly and inaccurately?
Naturalized Mexicans and Mexican-Americans — who together make up 67 percent of Latinos…
Ahh! At long last Ruby himself admits what we all know: It’s not an immigrant thing or even a Latino thing. Nope, it’s a Mexican thing. I’m actually glad that Ruby wrote this piece because it perfectly highlights two realities.
One, that the premise of a monolithic “Latino vote” is largely fictional. As Ruby has demonstrated, disaffected Chicanos aren’t interested nor respectful of non-Chicano Latinos. And the Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican and South American communities (except a few Lefty political hacks and koolaid drinkers like Bob Menendez and his daughter) are not at all interested in being sock puppets for disaffected Chicanos in East LA. So it’s best to stop referring to “the Latino vote” and recognize that the issue here is Mexicans, period. Well, Mexicans and the Central American refugees who have been driven out of their country of origin and Mexico, which has far more stringent immigration laws than the United States.
And two, the Left-wing Chicano community has now begun it’s war of words against Senator Marco Rubio who, although he is the son of immigrants from Cuba, apparently is not a “real Latino” or something because he is not out there shilling for undocumented, illegal Mexicans the way they and their fellow travelers demand that he should. There is undoubtedly fear among the Left-wing agitators that Senator Rubio could be influential in educating Americans that amnesty for illegals is NOT a Latino issue per se but rather a wedge issue by the Left. They are also afraid that he will be, sooner or later, a very serious presidential candidate.
Yep, it’s way past time we use the same sort of laws as MEXICO uses on their illegal aliens. That would be fair. I mean, HEY! if it’s good enough for Mexico is should be good enough for the U.S. Right?
Rubio took his campaign positions on immigration bewcause IT WAS THE ONLY WAY HE COULD CONVINCE FLORIDA TO VOTE FOR HIM!
What Republicans (and Democrats) won’t admit is that the MAJORITY of Americans don’t want comprehensive immigration reform because they believe it’s code for amnesty. The shakers and movers in both parties want it. The people don’t.
If that were not true how come Bush’s efforts to pass it went down in flames? As I remember it shut down the Senate switchboard for a time with protests. Actually, anti-immigration reform is perhaps the ONLY issue, along with anti-NAFTA and so-called “free” trade, that the majority of Americans of BOTH parties agree.
I say just those two issues would be a credible basis for a 3d party since neither major party GETS IT — comprehensive immigration reform propsed by either party cannot pass.
What amazes me is in the search for a winner, NO Republican has stepped forward to run as the Repeal NAFTA/No Amnesty candidate. I credit that curious situation to the fact that the Republican Party is OWNED by the multi-national corporations, and a good portion is owned by them (and leftist wing of globalism) as well.
Ruben, you treat the immigration issue in the Ham-Handed manner of a one issue ideolog. You equate dealing with illegal aliens as though they were legal and they are NOT!
Just imagine if you were to treat a burglar in your home the way you want to treat the law breaking illegal aliens… You’d invite them to stay in your house, eat your food, sleep in your bed, use your bank account and cars, control your thermostat, use your healthcare insurance etc.
Why can’t you see that these are morally identical situations?
Talk about hamfisted. Sr. Navarrette managed to hit every Democrat talking point, without ever even having to open a brain cell.
Viva La Raze! Pero por favor viva en ultro lugar, como pues, Mexico, por favor. Los Latinos que viven en Los EEUU sin paples viven como esclavas, y El Sr. Navarrette y los demacratos son los seniors.
I notice Navarrette doesn’t even bother typing his lies about guns here – just the immigration talking points.
On either subject it has to be incredibly easy to write a column. He just takes the latest Democrat talking points as truths, and puts them into an essay. It’s fun to watch him debunked and surprised when he’s not believed.
Rubén, Mexicans illegals in the southwest more nearly mirror Haitian illegals in Florida.
Cuban immigrants in Florida more nearly mirror our ancestors (all races) that fled tyrannies for the freedom and safety of what ONCE WAS an America that people like you have destroyed.
Navarrette like a lot of liberals has a problem with the definition of “legal” and “illegal”. Those that break our laws should not be rewarded. A nation that does not secure its borders ceases to be a nation.
IMO “La Raza” and “USA Constitution” are the same troll. Ignore them, PJmedia readers. And you could also stop reading the author’s columns. They are all the same: Poor illegal immigrants, blah blah blah, its not as easy as they say it is, blah blah blah, think of the complicated issues. I’ve heard it before.
Perhaps Ruben resents the fact that Sen Rubio is white rather than brown- Cubans are white, black, or sometimes mulatto- but *not* mestizos. The native population of Cuba was- er- disappeared early on by the Spaniards.
I’m not sure why they let the racist Ruben post here, except on the “keep your enemies closer” strategy, so you know how they think.
SGT TED: They let him spew his bilge because though talentless,envious of better-educated,more successful Cubans,and anti US,he’s PJM’s own affirmative action house latino.He probably got hired at the insistence of some RINO greedhead who hires (and exploits) illegal immigrants,and uses some of the profit to donate to PJM.As a pundit he’s boring;when compared to Rubio, he’s a mental and moral midget.
La Raza, you represent blatant racism.
— Junior asks: “Why is the Florida senator’s approach to the issue so simplistic, shallow, flawed, and utterly predictable?”
What a stupid sentence. Why is something utterly predictable? I dunno, why do you base everything you write about on false premises? I guess it just is what it is.
I check the info on the author firt. CNN affiliation says enough to know the purpoe is to rehash an emotional issue to distract from what the “left” hand is doing.
I don’t even read Navarrettes articles anymore. The reader comments are much better.
I have long since grown weary of Mr. Navarette and his insistence that he represents reasoned conservative thought. As others have noted, never have we been treated to such a broken record, a dud at that what with all the illegal immigration apologist speak.
It may be that most illegals in the forsaken state of CA are employed in homes but that is not the case in TX. We have been over-run and we are consequently broke as a result. In case you haven’t noticed Rueben, such is the case at all levels of government throughout the land. In a world where we are finally coming to understand that government can no longer afford all the services guaranteed to it’s citizenry there is absolutely no justification, NONE, to provide the first dime in services for illegal squatters. Where they’re from and what they look like is utterly irrelevant.
Further, the intent of the 14th Amendment has been bastardized and I have seen no lucid argument that effectively dispels this harsh reality.
Until we effectively secure the border, you know, that inconvenient little constitutional mandate thing, immigration reform of any sort is not possible.
Ruben un imbécil estúpido….Ruben, Frotado chupa pollos muertos y es un racista mugriento.
Ruben…vete al diablo.
La Raza que patearemos sus asnos cafés atrás en una zanja mugrienta de su hacer…Mexico
Rule of Law: remember that quaint notion? ILLEGAL ALIENS should be sent back to wherever it is they came from.
You’re a liberal. Go away.
Seems simple to me. STOP reading (opening)Naverette’s column.
Does anyone actually read his columns. I mean end to end? I just read his opening paragraph, where he lays out his premise, and that is as far as I need go with it. As his premises are always half-truths, at best, I seen no need to read any further. One cannot build a cogent argument on a weak premise, or set of premises. I learned that in high school.
HAHA the 3 reasons you dislike RUBIO are the exact 3 reasons to support him- he is making decisions like a Republican not a “Hispanic” – not pandering to Mexicans and liberals who want to throw the doors wide open to poor, uneducated and undeserving.
Navarrette once again shows that he is incapable of writing an article that has nothing to do with his guilt over the fact that his mother is an illegal immigrant.
Get over it, Ruben. Then get a real job, instead of being a professional whiner.
I have no problem granting citizenship to an alien who join the armed forces. If they risk their life for the USA, they are deserving. But because an illegal enrolls in a junior college, probably subsidized be the tax payer and think they are entitled to amnesty, please. Naverette, you may want my country to be a third world flophouse. I don’t!
Hey Ruben,
Isn’t it about time for you to knock of the “moderate Republican”
charadebit and get to shilling for Obama? The campaign is less than 16 months away and you don’t want to let time slip up on you.The One needs your vote (and your money).
I detest most illegal aliens because they bring their socialist expectations to my country. I have enough problems dealing with home grown progressives. So I find Sen. Marco Rubio alright with me. I would go further and change the Cuban adjustment act, because most right thinking Cubans left the communist Island many years ago. What we get in South Florida today is just as bad as the leftist Europeans, or anti-American Muslims we are getting as immigrants. I oppose immigration for national security, and our slumped economy.
Amen – your stand on the Cuban Adjustment Act is a stand I can concur with. At least Mexicans have to fight well-armed narcos plus their government and (our present government vis a vis Fast and Furious) to take back their country as opposed to two octogenarian brothers with little popular support on a small island.
Yeah, it’s pretty complex, isn’t it, Ruben? Deep. Probably needs a lot of nuance, doesn’t it? Why can’t Marco understand the whole LaRaza, Mexifornia, this is still Mexico, or Spain thing? Doesn’t Rubio understand thatillegal aliens aren’t illegal just because some stupid law says so? How, shallow of Rubio! You go, Navarrette. Let’s get ‘em some more SS bennies, and daycare, and health care, see this is deep when we’re drowning in a sea of debt, in large part because of nuancers like you.
Here we go again! Another slimy,deceitful,and manipulative column by this author. Why does this web site allow this kind of ‘journalism.’ This author trashes Rubio? He does not even deserve to kiss Rubios feet. Ruben..you are a fraud. Rubio is a REAL American. Yes, I would support automatic citizenship for Cubans fleeing Cuba..they at least value this country for more than just a handout.
This issue IS simple. Follow the bouncing ball and execute the official steps to become a citizen or go home. Period. If you are here illegally then you need to be deported. Why are we even debating this? If I want to go to Mexico and work I have to jump through tall hoops to get the visa for that, and then after I get it I can only me there for a finite number of months then I have to come home. If I am caught working there without the proper paper I go to jail. And, jail in Mexico is most likely a death sentence. So, again, until there is a quid pro quo I say this is simple. Enforce the current law.
oh boo hoo. The American people are waking up and you know it
Sounds like Rubio is doing everything right. May God bless Rep Rubio!
“Why is the Florida senator’s approach to the issue so simplistic, shallow, flawed, and utterly predictable?”
Well, Mr. Navarette, that same question could be asked of you and your argument for amnesty. Americans are fair people and they recognize that what you want is inherently unfair. Why should a group of people (illegal aliens) be exempt from laws that citizens and immigrants (the proper term for those who enter the U.S. legally) are obliged to follow? Why do illegal aliens from Mexico (and their apologists) think America should treat them like welcome guests when their own government treats illegals entering Mexico from its southern border as criminals? What is fair about turning lawbreakers into a protected class?
You bemoan the fact that illegal aliens are cynically exploited by politicians for votes and by businesses for cheap labor. If you truly believe this is wrong why don’t you use your forum to encourage them to stay home and turn their labors and talents to the improvement of their own country, or if they must come here urge them to do what hundreds of thousands of immigrants before them have done: Follow the law, learn English, embrace citizenship and our culture and become true Americans? Why don’t you tell them not to sneak across the border with their children and put the children at risk of deportation years later when deportation would be devastating to them? If you won’t do this then how are you different from those very exploiters, using identity politics and phony arguments with lawbreakers and their apologists for your own gain?
why do pele constantly refuse todo what is needed this isnt rocket science. ruben needs to keep track as we have done anesty or comprehensivereform or whatevr the new term for rewarding criminals is now. we dd it 8 times. it does notwork. ilegals haveno busines here period. it has no bearng on if they are nice or not. the fact is they broke the law and needto go. we cant keep tiptoing around this afraid t hurt their feelings. how many people have to di oneither side for peple to do what is needed? do citzens need to start arming themselvesand stoppin illegas thmselves? none here wants o thinkof it,butthat WILL happen relly soon and especially if commie libs and weak rinos atempt to reward thse criinals.keep upthe good work ruben nav. withpeoplelike you wewll havce a civil war in no time
I think it is unfair to clasify ANY group of people that bypass legal imigration into the United States of America as immigrants. Laws exist for a legal process of immigration and a legal process to obtain citizenship. If any one sneaks in the back door and bypasses the legal process that makes them a criminal and not an immigrant. Sorry!!!! If I was to sneak into another country and bypass their immigration laws that would make me a criminal there!
“Why is Ruben’s approach to the issue so simplistic, shallow, flawed, and utterly predictable?”
Deport all Hispanics!
STFU you stupid moby.
Ruben, you’ve got it all wrong. YOUR approach to the issue is “simplistic, shallow, flawed, and utterly predictable.”
You really need to stop projecting.
First of all, illegal immigration is not an ‘issue’ it is a crime. Start from there and the answer is easy: secure the southern border. Next, and I expect to draw some heat for this, it is impractical to think law enforcement (federal, state, and local combined) could ever track down and deport the 12-20 million illegals residing in the USA. And even if this was remotely possible it would be extremely expensive. So what do we do to rectify this situation?
I favor requiring all employers to verify the status of their employees, with stiff penalties for employers who hire illegals. Secondly, allow all illegals to come forward for a thorough background check with the promise that they will receive a 5 year work visa and the opportunity to form up in the back of the line of those waiting to legally immigrate. Those who are found to have committed crimes should be handed over to the appropriate jurisdiction for prosecution and anyone caught without a work visa after the program begins should be swiftly deported.
BTW, it has been my experience that the overwhelming majority of Chicanos are hardworking people with conservative social values.
“Chicanos are hardworking people with conservative social values.”
Bovine excrement. They’re hard at work trying to vote for the socialist pukes that keep the gravy train going. Don’t kid yourself friend. They’re not the least bit altruistic or conservative when it comes to sustaining the freebies and thereby making this country fit their failed image.
Deport them all.
Is this guy really considered a conservative worthy of blog space?
I am sure there are several facts in this that are true, and maybe even in context, as for the rest. Just read his last name and wonder no more why.
Mr Navarrette is a traitor to Mexico and a traitor to the USA. This is typical of border men. They are double minded. They represent only themselves.
Charles, lil’ Rubenitito is a Puerto Rican; not a Mexican. Yes, he is a traitor to the USA; but not to Mexico. He makes his living by playing the race card, and probably writes the blogs signed by La Raza. He will end up in Hell for lying and sowing discord, but to him that is better than honest work. Besides, “honest” hold no meaning for him. Be charitable, and don’t tell the Zetas that he has been informing on them, will you?
As a naturalized citizen, I feel that I am qualified, or at least experienced in this issue.
First of all, to call illegal aliens as immigrants is to lie and shows the bias of the author. Immigrants by definition have followed the proper legal steps.
I support a guest worker program with the following requirement: Employers of guest workers must be responsible for their guests and should post a bond to cover medical expenses and to guarantee a return ticket to country of origin. A guest worker should be limited to a short term stay, like 2 years for example.
Employers who hire illegals should be severely fined. All levels of government should check on the legality of any person arrested for any crime. This is no different than local police checking for the passing of counterfeit currency, which is a federal crime.
Citizenship by birth should be limited to children of legal residents and legal visitors only.
It is an honor and privileged to legally come to America. It should not be diluted just because illegals can sneak into the voting process (the real reason for backing illegal presence).