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	<title>Comments on: Lieberman: &#8220;I can forgive&#8230; but I probably won&#8217;t forget.&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: jose4</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/lieberman-i-can-forgive-but-i-probably-wont-forget/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>jose4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 23:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To whoever (Attica Girl, or something)  said Ruby Ridge happened under George HW Bush, you&#039;re wrong.  It happened during August &#039;92 under the command of the redoubtable Janet Reno, the Clinton administration having entered office in Feb 92 after winning the election in Nov 91.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To whoever (Attica Girl, or something)  said Ruby Ridge happened under George HW Bush, you&#8217;re wrong.  It happened during August &#8217;92 under the command of the redoubtable Janet Reno, the Clinton administration having entered office in Feb 92 after winning the election in Nov 91.</p>
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		<title>By: wallyboy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/lieberman-i-can-forgive-but-i-probably-wont-forget/#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>wallyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lieberman wants it all: the democratic vote, and the ability to ignore what they have already voted. Unfortunately, the republican party in New England is pathetic, and do not have a decent alternative. We will probably once again have to vote for the lesser of evils, and Joe will win.

In many ways we get what we deserve. We deserve the best, and are being led astray by a bunch of professional politicians and media who are making bad choice after bad choice for us.

We need to change OUR thinking first. Why do we let the press set the agenda for us? Why let these idiots in Congress sell us out. It takes Walmart to bring fairer drug prices to America? I want to scream.

My friends who are democrats and independents are not much different in thinking. We agree on most core issues, such as education and health care. We want intelligent people to try to come up with solutions. But that is not going to happen.

I personally would dump the republican party in a minute if we could come up with a third alternative that could address the real needs of this country.

We the people, need to wake up.

As far as the Iraq war, which had undermined Joe so badly, it was a bad idea based on a total misunderstanding of the people involved. We pull out or not, there will never be any Democracy. They are going to have to kill each other  as they have for years, until one group finally gains an upper hand.

Maybe the important point is, how do we deal with the final victor?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lieberman wants it all: the democratic vote, and the ability to ignore what they have already voted. Unfortunately, the republican party in New England is pathetic, and do not have a decent alternative. We will probably once again have to vote for the lesser of evils, and Joe will win.</p>
<p>In many ways we get what we deserve. We deserve the best, and are being led astray by a bunch of professional politicians and media who are making bad choice after bad choice for us.</p>
<p>We need to change OUR thinking first. Why do we let the press set the agenda for us? Why let these idiots in Congress sell us out. It takes Walmart to bring fairer drug prices to America? I want to scream.</p>
<p>My friends who are democrats and independents are not much different in thinking. We agree on most core issues, such as education and health care. We want intelligent people to try to come up with solutions. But that is not going to happen.</p>
<p>I personally would dump the republican party in a minute if we could come up with a third alternative that could address the real needs of this country.</p>
<p>We the people, need to wake up.</p>
<p>As far as the Iraq war, which had undermined Joe so badly, it was a bad idea based on a total misunderstanding of the people involved. We pull out or not, there will never be any Democracy. They are going to have to kill each other  as they have for years, until one group finally gains an upper hand.</p>
<p>Maybe the important point is, how do we deal with the final victor?</p>
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		<title>By: gringo</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/lieberman-i-can-forgive-but-i-probably-wont-forget/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>gringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 05:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Al Gore did NOT endorse Ned Lamont. Gore stayed out from the Connecticut race. He has nothing to do with it.

Besides, Al does not own anything to Joe just like Joe does not own anything to Al. They were never really close friends, anyway.
Joe was picked in 2000 simply because there was no better candidate available. That doesn&#039;t mean they were in love with each other.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Al Gore did NOT endorse Ned Lamont. Gore stayed out from the Connecticut race. He has nothing to do with it.</p>
<p>Besides, Al does not own anything to Joe just like Joe does not own anything to Al. They were never really close friends, anyway.<br />
Joe was picked in 2000 simply because there was no better candidate available. That doesn&#8217;t mean they were in love with each other.</p>
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		<title>By: CT Dem</title>
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		<dc:creator>CT Dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 02:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as with Joe, I came from a poor, but hard working democratic household. I didn&#039;t know that I was poor until I got to college and met the Lamont types where I saw through their insincerity. Joe is straightforward. I trust him to understand my concerns and those of my family. He will get my vote.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as with Joe, I came from a poor, but hard working democratic household. I didn&#8217;t know that I was poor until I got to college and met the Lamont types where I saw through their insincerity. Joe is straightforward. I trust him to understand my concerns and those of my family. He will get my vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff in Michigan</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/lieberman-i-can-forgive-but-i-probably-wont-forget/#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff in Michigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If more public leaders had Joe Lieberman&#039;s courage to step away from the two major parties, the highly politicized party platforms and the parties&#039; group positions, talking points, and selfish agendae, this country would be much better off as the &#039;right&#039; thing would occur more often than what is in the best interest of a political party.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If more public leaders had Joe Lieberman&#8217;s courage to step away from the two major parties, the highly politicized party platforms and the parties&#8217; group positions, talking points, and selfish agendae, this country would be much better off as the &#8216;right&#8217; thing would occur more often than what is in the best interest of a political party.</p>
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		<title>By: John M</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jalans:

Exactly what &quot;rights&quot; do terrorists have?

Of course, Indy-boy offered no response, as his statements were nothing more than bs red-herrings, just like much of what the left-wing spews.

It&#039;s a little old, isn&#039;t it?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jalans:</p>
<p>Exactly what &#8220;rights&#8221; do terrorists have?</p>
<p>Of course, Indy-boy offered no response, as his statements were nothing more than bs red-herrings, just like much of what the left-wing spews.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a little old, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: epaminondas</title>
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		<dc:creator>epaminondas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now wouldn&#039;t it be some halal cold gefilte fish, the senate was 49 repub-50 dem and if Joe decided to caucus with the repubs, keeping the majority in the red.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now wouldn&#8217;t it be some halal cold gefilte fish, the senate was 49 repub-50 dem and if Joe decided to caucus with the repubs, keeping the majority in the red.</p>
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		<title>By: Lem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anything clarifies the divergent party control btwg republicans and democrats these days is by what they do with dissidents.

Take Lincoln Chafee. If anybody can be said to be a maverick is this guy. Chafee enjoys the full faith and credit of the GOP but hardly can be counted on when the chips are down with almost every issue crucial to the base.

While Liberman in other hand, gets out of step on one issue and is sayonara, we hardly knew ye. Unless done in by scandal or indictment, I can&#039;t think of anyone getting thrown under the bus by one of the majors on account of a single issue like this.

If republican retain control (and Joe wins) we should lobby for a chairmanship for Joe.

Start your pencils :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anything clarifies the divergent party control btwg republicans and democrats these days is by what they do with dissidents.</p>
<p>Take Lincoln Chafee. If anybody can be said to be a maverick is this guy. Chafee enjoys the full faith and credit of the GOP but hardly can be counted on when the chips are down with almost every issue crucial to the base.</p>
<p>While Liberman in other hand, gets out of step on one issue and is sayonara, we hardly knew ye. Unless done in by scandal or indictment, I can&#8217;t think of anyone getting thrown under the bus by one of the majors on account of a single issue like this.</p>
<p>If republican retain control (and Joe wins) we should lobby for a chairmanship for Joe.</p>
<p>Start your pencils <img src='http://pjmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anything clarifies the divergent party control btwg republicans and democrats these days is by what they do with dissidents.

Take Lincoln Chafee. If anybody can be said to be a maverick is this guy. Chafee enjoys the full faith and credit of the GOP but hardly can be counted on when the chips are down with almost every issue crucial to the base.

While Liberman in other hand, gets out of step on one issue and is sayonara, we hardly knew ye. Unless done in by scandal or indictment, I can&#039;t think of anyone getting thrown under the bus by one of the majors on account of a single issue like this.

If republican retain control (and Joe wins) we should lobby for a chairmanship for Joe.

Start your pencils :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anything clarifies the divergent party control btwg republicans and democrats these days is by what they do with dissidents.</p>
<p>Take Lincoln Chafee. If anybody can be said to be a maverick is this guy. Chafee enjoys the full faith and credit of the GOP but hardly can be counted on when the chips are down with almost every issue crucial to the base.</p>
<p>While Liberman in other hand, gets out of step on one issue and is sayonara, we hardly knew ye. Unless done in by scandal or indictment, I can&#8217;t think of anyone getting thrown under the bus by one of the majors on account of a single issue like this.</p>
<p>If republican retain control (and Joe wins) we should lobby for a chairmanship for Joe.</p>
<p>Start your pencils <img src='http://pjmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dougf</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;LIEberman followed this administration as they clamped down on our rights by rigging elections, caging peaceful prtoestors, banning books like &quot;America Decevied&quot; from Amazon, conducting warrantless wire-taps and starting 2 illegal wars based on lies.&lt;/i&gt;--Indyreader

Umm,Indy, as a public service I think I should warn you that ANYONE logging into the IndyMedia Site is automatically tracked and immediately entered into the &#039;secret&#039; database of &#039;suspicious persons&#039;. Well I guess it&#039;s not a secret now, but I really felt you should know.

You didn&#039;t think that the evil Bushitler would be content with just a few &quot; banned books &quot;, and a handful of &quot;caged protestors&quot;, did you ?

Just FYI dude.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>LIEberman followed this administration as they clamped down on our rights by rigging elections, caging peaceful prtoestors, banning books like &#8220;America Decevied&#8221; from Amazon, conducting warrantless wire-taps and starting 2 illegal wars based on lies.</i>&#8211;Indyreader</p>
<p>Umm,Indy, as a public service I think I should warn you that ANYONE logging into the IndyMedia Site is automatically tracked and immediately entered into the &#8216;secret&#8217; database of &#8216;suspicious persons&#8217;. Well I guess it&#8217;s not a secret now, but I really felt you should know.</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t think that the evil Bushitler would be content with just a few &#8221; banned books &#8220;, and a handful of &#8220;caged protestors&#8221;, did you ?</p>
<p>Just FYI dude.</p>
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