Let’s Have That Discussion About Race, Shall We?
The nomination of Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court has vaulted the president, the Senate, and the entire country into a discussion about race and the meaning of equal protection under the law. The president could have gone another route — choosing, for example, a distinguished justice like Diane Wood who did not have controversial decisions, speeches, and law review articles suggesting that there are different strains of jurisprudence depending on the ethnicity of the judge. But he did not. And now Eric Holder will have his wish — everyone is talking about race.
The much-discussed New Haven firefighter case encapsulates many of the arguments which rage today about “diversity,” race, and equal protection. And it suggests Sotomayor is not the sort of judge to enforce the colorblind conception of the Constitution which was the foundation of the civil rights movement and which is set out in the plain language of the 14th Amendment. (“No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”)
Frank Ricci, a dyslexic white firefighter, brought suit after the city of New Haven threw out the test scores on a promotion exam which none of the African American firefighters passed. Stuart Taylor explains:
A three-judge panel including Sotomayor upheld, and adopted as its own, a federal District judge’s ruling against the white firefighters. The panel set aside the anti-discrimination principle on the grounds that New Haven feared (among other things) that promoting the whites “would subject the city to public criticism” and would probably result in a disparate-impact lawsuit by blacks “that, for political reasons, the city did not want to defend.”
So much for the anti-discrimination principle — not to mention President Obama’s professed desire to find judges with “empathy” for, among others, wronged workers who sue employers and for people who invoke their “individual rights” against governments.
The other Clinton-appointed Hispanic judge, Jose Cabranes, was so disturbed when he learned of the panel’s curiously “perfunctory disposition” that he sought to have it reconsidered by the full 2nd Circuit. He lost by a 7-6 vote. In a dissent for the six, Cabranes suggested that the case might involve “an unconstitutional racial quota or set-aside.”
He added:
“At its core, this case presents a straightforward question: May a municipal employer disregard the results of a qualifying examination, which was carefully constructed to ensure race-neutrality, on the ground that the results of that examination yielded too many qualified applicants of one race and not enough of another?”
Sotomayor’s argument in support of the city is a strange one indeed. One wonders how we have gotten to the point at which city officials are cowed into abandoning equal treatment of its citizens for fear of “bad press” and of the “civil rights” lobby, which stands ready to pounce on any employer (private or public) whose “numbers” don’t look “right.” (The city didn’t say that its test was defective, only that it would have to go to the trouble of defending the exam against the sort of meritless claim that is all too popular these days.)
Did not Martin Luther King Jr say that he looked to the day when his children were NOT judged by the color of their skin, but by their abilities? Whattever happened to that, Liberals?
Or are you racists by demanding we judge people by their color?
The Dems have screamed, smeared and cried foul over EVERY Republican nominee to the bench- why do they assume we will meekly stand by and do nothing with their radical choices?
some races are more equal than others
“The much-discussed New Haven firefighter case…”
Frank Ricci is our poster child. Sonia Sotomayor treated him in a despicable manner—and most Americans agree that he was treated unfairly. The odds are against her. Judge Sotomayor will have to withdraw her name from consideration in the near future. She is too hot to handle for those U.S. senators who eventually will seek reelection. Why am I about the only one citing the results of the racial preference ballot proposal in the very left-wing state of Michigan? What more proof does anyone need to show that the majority of American voters are on our side?
Sotomayor’s supporters are making the phony claim that she is being taken out of context and often speaks in a nuanced manner that can be initially confusing. We only need, alas, to point out the case of Frank Ricci. Sotomayor’s own actions speak louder than her words. The Republican GOP establishment was also on the wrong side of the Michigan racial preferences ballot proposal! Why is it tempted to repeat the same mistake in this particular instance? It is a winning issue for Republicans. There is no logical reason for them to be afraid. The Democrats are instead the ones who should be terrified.
“With the nomination of Sonia Sotomayor, everyone is talking about race.”
Not everyone, just the repubs making a toothpick into a baseball bat. The economy got boring and health care is not here yet. Relax and enjoy your summer.
Haven’t you heard, “WEC #1″?
You hsouldn’t be listening to that King anymore.
You’re taking him out of context.
He meant just the opposite.
He was always fighting for The Black Man.
And so on.
I am NOT making the above up.
This, and more, has been told to me over the years in my hometown of Washington, DC.
And not just by blacks.
But certainly all by Leftist bigots.
TO: Jennifer Rubin, et al.
RE: Speaking of Sotomayor and Race….
….has anyone done a check on her ‘opinions’ as they relate to ‘race’?
Over on another thread, someone mentioned a minority opinion of hers that flies in the face of the 14th and 15th amendments as well as the state constitution of New York. Apparently over a matter relating TO race. And I’m wondering if there’s a body of evidence out there in her opinions that would further substantiate her being a ‘racist’ and ‘sexist’ at heart.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out....]
“Not everyone, just the repubs making a toothpick into a baseball bat. The economy got boring and health care is not here yet. Relax and enjoy your summer.”
it’s only the republicans because racism is ok for democrats. Look at the public lynching of Miguel estrada.
What do we get? Democraps are racists and hypocrites. Look at idiots like vivo (deadbrain)
Being a racist (or at least sounding like one) will not derail Judge Sotomayor’s nomination. Harry Reid has the votes. If she makes a passable appearance in her Senate hearings, she’ll be confirmed with ease. This is another example of a so-called “compelling personal story” plus “empathy” for members of the right constituencies trumping judicial intellect and judgment. Above the west side of the U.S. Supreme Court building is the motto “Equal justice under law.” When Justice Sotomayor is seated, we should replace this with a modified version of Orwell’s famous Animal Farm line: “All … are equal but some … are more equal than others.”
Race,gender,and class that is the lens through which liberals see everything in our society. Is anyone surprised that BO would chose such a candidate? His only problem was that he could not find a black Muslim woman with an Hispanic surname to nominate. And, facts don’t matter and Sonia will sail through the Senate hearings unscathed.
Shouldn’t a ‘wise latina woman’ know how repugnant it is to draw conclusions about character based on skin pigment? Or does she believe that virtue comes from blood?
Sotomeyer is a racist and is not fit to serve on the Supreme Court. Unfortunately, this will not derail her because she is only guilty of hating white people.
Barack and Michelle Obama are Black Liberationists which means that they are Marxists and racists. So what’s the big deal?
Sit back and watch them destroy our country in a few months.
“Here Come Da’ Judge, Here Come Da’ Judge!”
“Everybody Ready cause Here Come Da; Judgee!”
Seriously though,
She could save the country time and money.
This lady-
Sorry, your Honor-
is so smart she could be Judge, Jury, and Executioner.
millions of tax dollars saved for the green economy.
And having a perverted powerful smart woman in half a burqa ruling over us white boys is kind of kinky.
The problem with “equality” is that no one will use it equally….It’s not even race…it’s nationalism, disguised as such…I’ve been down in these hordes…an’ they’re mostly people who’s priorities are in screwin’, drinkin’, fightin’ an’ livin’ hand ta mouth…with all the contrivances an’ connivin’ that follows in footsteps…That’s why they want this welfare state…They want ta feed their hordes…get their numbers up into power…an’ then get “whitey”, the ones who did them all this goodwill an’ favor on welfare in their wake….An’ they ain’t gonna make the mistake that “whitey” made, that they’re exploitin’ when the get inta power…the goodwill bit….That’s the weakness ta them ..The GAYness…This ain’t no Steinbeck country…America , ain’t no place for fiction….Tom Joad, John Galt, or Oprah Winfrey…They don’t like people who get one up on them, that’s it, plain an’ simple…..It’s jest envy, pride, covetousness, jealousy, pettiness, fickle an’ fraudulent women hired out on lust….What do ya want ta say? All the things that make mankind fer the worse basically….Them warnin’ flares fer these kinds of behaviors went up inta the skies a long time ago…Now the glaciers are gone, an’ they’re not commin’ back…So yer gonna be left with them numbers fightin’ fer this planet’s last few breaths, when it comes down to it…An’ believe they’ll fight ta get in the offices ta fuzzy up them numbers to their advantages…Like it was a billboards chart…or a box-office receipt…Consensus?…I’m in China right now an’ you have a billions of people here a little too eager ta move into them offices of progress that’s already gone an killed half the planet off…An’ they’re seein’ this thugocracy as sumethin’ right up they’re alley…..fer every one pseudo educated representative person of “color” or “race” there’s about 50 -500 more of these brethren barbarians at the gate with one goal an’ that’s that main chance….Ta live like the Emperor…The King…the Effe…The Boss…They got tons of kids here in China…an’ they ain’t slowin’ down…Jest like them barrios in America… in LA…movin’ up the Mississippi now an’ into the Eastern ranges…They AIN’T slowin’ down…No matter what polite ways yer tellin’ ‘em…Or how much yer talkin’ on the level with ‘em…They have nuthin’ better to live for then what you’ve got, no matter how little you have left of it….They’ll grunt it out in any sty an’ filth you can imagine…You gotta fight ‘em. If they want ta call ya “white folks”, an’ regard you as their enemy…then fight ‘em as such, simple as that…You gotta start seein’ them yer own eyes again….stop seein’ through that Aryan prism bunk…Skip all the pageantry an’ punditry …no words…just deeds without excuses…There’s nuthin’ proud about that…but they’re drawin’ a line…they’re speakin’ the words…they’re makin’ the choice…an’ they are far more hostile towards America and it’s domestic security then the North Koreans are right now or have ever made any intentions of being. Far as I’m concerned North Koreans an’ the Japanese have a longstanding, legitimate grief against each other. Why, because the Japanese tried to wipe them out completely…a couple of times…An as far as South Korea is concerned it’s their own civil business…Jest because a bunch of GI’s had Japanese girlfriends who acted an awful lot like the wifey back home in the states did, doesn’t mean I’m about to give ‘em the VIP passes an’ put them on my “consider them Allies” list at the door. I hate ta tell ya but them Japanese interests, (especially on racial lines), are conspicuously alignin’ themselves more an’ more with China these days then with the US.
Lao Wai,
“Old Whitey”
Right?
I very much hope this conversation takes place and the uglier it gets, the better. Time to put an end to the soothing lullabies that the uberclass sings while they plunder us of our money, our rights and our country.
Perhaps others can advise, what is the right term for Obama–race hustler? Race baitor? Anti-white?
Of course he would choose someone with views like Sotomayor, they mirror his own. To them equal opportunity does not go far enough, they want equal outcomes. And when they are not achieved, they do not hesitate to trample on the rights of anyone preventing their preferred outcome.
When the Ricci decision is overturned–and it will be–I hope this wakes up a few of the Obamabots from their slumber. Surely not all of you are on the receiving end of the government’s largesse.
I expect we will hear from the ones who are still being paid by BHO to post comments here. Yet another “benefit” of a precedent in perpetual campaign mode.
I deplore the back channel effort by the Obama Administration to paint any and all opposition to Judge Sotomayors nomination as being an expression of bigotry. They’re playing the race card, and the ghost of Johnny Cochrane must be laughing his a$$ off. Were Sotomayor to espouse a more conservative worldview, I would support her nomination no matter her race.
It’s time to start Alinsky-izing the Obamabots and beat them at their own game. Isolate the comments emmanating from Gibbs, et al, and demand an explanation of them. Hammer them over the head with their own words! Demand an explanation as to why this woman prizes her Latina insights over those of a white man, make her admit to her prejudices.
Two can play at the Alinsky game …
It’s these kinds of decisions (the rationalia that drive them) and the arguments that arise because of them that really make the military look good. With few exceptions (Combat Arms positions, barred to women) promotion and authority are driven not by sex, political persuasion, or race, the reason we rise or fall is based on merit. Out here? The firemen in New Haven, the breathtaking comment from the Judge’s own lips (“Latina woman”) . . . It’s disgusting that we have a culture more and more wedded to process versus results, how something looks versus what it should be able to do . . .
It’s good to see the audience here is well read “More equal” . . . Animal Farm.
As I mentioned before in a comment to an earlier article, our first black TOTUS has taken race relations back 20 years at least. He had a great opportunity to transcend race and be what MLK dreamed but alas, he’s using his race to further his agenda.
I have to agree with previous posters, reverse racism and desperately trying to inject all of the US with a good dose of white guilt is not working. In fact quite the opposite. Should we thank or condemn our TOTUS for this? I’m guessing the Rainbow Coalition is quite pleased with this though. They were almost put out of business. Almost.
Maybe a Hispanic or a woman POTUS can finally be the one to rise above race in this country? What the hell, it might even be just another run of the mill white guy. Wouldn’t that piss off our liberal friends!
David Thompson aply elucidates Jennifers fundemental points. The question is whether GOP senators under Jeff Sessions will seize this confirmation process to full political advantage.
The Ricci case is poignant because Ricci constitutes ground zero for race hustle litigation; government employment. Be it Federal, State, or County, government employment in its vast environs represent the biggest and softest venue to exploit the numbers game Jennifer so concisely identifies.
Besides the political good will Obama is cultivating among Hispanics with this choice, all the usual suspects on the left (People f/American Way, NOW, American Bar ect) love Ms NewRican. So heading into this confirmation the liberals have a solid unified front behind a candidate they want badly.
But there are more vital reasons why conservatives need to put as much political firepower into contesting her confirmation as the Dems did with Bork & later with Thomas.
People forget that the Dems began their revitalization as a party with the Thomas hearings in ’92. It was the height of the state government takeover by conservatives – culminating with Gingrich & the Contract w/America and the ’94 congressional majority. That national rise in state governments began with a trickle under Carter, turning into a flood around Reagans 2nd term and only began receeding after ’96-’98 – accelarated first by the government shutdowns & later by the ill-concieved Clinton impeachment.
Conservatives began loosing steadily at the state level afterward – with only the brief interval of 9/11 steming the tide. Today we stand at a rough parity in statehouses across the nation – basically having lost half again the gains that came from an almost thirty year rise unitl 2006. The worst of those loses taking place during bushes 2nd term.
Obama could have chosen a real red meat off the chart flaming liberal like Kathleen Sullivan – openly gay and far more openly an advocate of liberal judical activism than Sonia. He has a majority on the Judical Committee and the biggest majority in the senate since FDR tried to pack the court.
Besides these advantages he is early in his first term and has, as much as I hate to admit it, a solid popular footing with the public. Yet he choose for his first pick a candidate that he believes should get minimal resistance – much like Ruth Ginsberg.
But guess what – he should get two (Stevens & Ginsberg)and maybe three (Bryer) more picks in the next year or two. And what if either Thomas or Scalia would shock the world and decide to step down in his first term?
That makes this confirmation the fight of the year – possibly the biggest fight of his 1st term. It’s his first pick, with others to follow a certainty, and it represents an oppertunity for conservatives to highlight what they stand for in the broadest terms. I belive Sessions, Kyle, Coburn, McConnell, and the rest of the GOP understands this.
It’s not about preventing her from a seat – it is – just as the Dems did with Thomas – getting in the trenches and muddying and blooding the waters to full political advantage. Any GOP milqtoast that goes bla bla bal about civility on this nomination deserves to get tossed into the mulch machine. That means a filibuster – no matter how symbolic – nor how short the numbers.
Jennifer has barely scratched the surface on the blemishes this woman’s lifes work presents as a target. I expect to see every single one an open bloody wound before she crawls into chambers on hands and knees. Not just for my own personal satisfaction – but for the good of the country – and to fully expose what this sitting president views as judical philosophy and ‘restraint.’
The the games begin! Maybe if conservatives are up to it that can help ensure Obama is a one term mistake.
President Obama, Judge Sonya Sotomayor, Attorney General Eric Holder, among others in Obama’s administration are no different than race vultures Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton: Demagogues to exploit race in their favor. In this case, they demagogue the white man since. in their distorted world, minorities cannot be racist. This is the Leftist group think on the subject; it is the reason the MSM will not talk about it accurately.
If we keep lowering the bar to the point that the bar is ground level for minorities but keep the bar high for whites, we truly will have a village of idiots instead of just one or two village idiots.
It’s pretty embarrassing and a little sad that ‘some’ people believe that the only way for a minority to ever have a chance in life is to use ‘lowered expectations’ tactics. Disgraceful.
It’s clearly racist to treat people of color other than white (or Asian) as morons who are incapable of being as ‘smart’ as those with less melanin in their complexions. This is an insult to people of ethnicities other than white (or Asian) who truly are brilliant and work hard and want to get ahead on their own .
By giving people ‘leg-ups’ who don’t deserve it and haven not earned it, we are just churning out more stupid rather than rewarding people who honestly strive and work to better themselves.
P.S. You have to love the race-hustling elitist lefties who almost always want to live in uber ‘white’ neighborhoods and enroll their children in private schools.
This is a good piece by a commenter on a blog, his name is Jason. He makes interesting points about the hypocrisy of the left
I notice that both Obama and Gibbs have now claimed that Sotomayor made a “poor choice of words.”
What this means is that they acknowledge the fact that her words were racist and offensive. Now that we have that established, the only question to ask them is: “so which words should she have chosen instead?”
The first response from the left when the news broke was to claim that her words were taken out of context. But clearly, neither Obama or Gibbs believe this – because if it were simply a case of a missing context then were that hypothetical context applied, the words would cease to be “unfortunate.”
So either they give us the correct context and retract their admission that her words were offensive, or they maintain the “unfortunate choice of words” excuse and tell us what words she should have used. It’s as simple as that.
Failure to provide either an adequate context or an alternative word choice leaves us with one conclusion and one conclusion only: Sotomayor is a proven racist and should never again be allowed anywhere near an American court of law.
Ah yes, but the left has tried to explain her remarks. Apparently the “context” is that she was speaking about the ability of a non-white judge to make better judgments in cases of discrimination. Yet taken in this context, the remarks are still racist for they make an offensive generalization about white men; that they are incapable of understanding or empathizing with any problem which isn’t drawn from their direct experience. Just what percentage of court cases involve situations taken from the “direct experience” of the judge in question? If the left wishes to stick to this logic, then are they happy with other conclusions derived from that same logic: that a female judge is less capable of making wise decisions in cases involving men, that a Latina judge is less capable of making a wise decision in cases involving whites, that a gay judge is less capable of making a wise decision in cases involving heterosexual marriage, for example?
Of course, the left would have none of this. They cherry pick their reasoning from a tree of logic that also contains fruit strictly forbidden to the left. This is why they are so wrong about almost everything – they have an innate inability to be logically, philosophically or morally consistent. They attempt to rationalize their own prejudices using logic which, when applied consistently, leads to conclusions they don’t want to have to deal with.
The funniest rationalization I’ve heard so far from the left is that her remarks were OK because they were made in a speech entitled “A Latina Judge’s Voice.” But let’s pick some forbidden fruit from that tree of logic. If a white judge made a remark that his skin color made him more qualified to pass judgment in certain cases, would the left be satisfied by the excuse that they were taken from a speech entitled “A White Judge’s Voice”?
It just gets worse. Apparently we’re supposed to embrace the idea that a Latina woman is better qualified than a white man to make judgments on cases involving discrimination against non-whites, yet to date we’ve yet to hear Sotomayor admit that she was less qualified than a white judge to pass judgment on the case of Frank Ricci, the white firefighter denied a promotion because of his skin color.
In fact, that case just highlights how inconsistent and contradictory the entire defense of Sotomayor is. Liberals are now saying that we should applaud her judgment in the Ricci case because she was just enforcing the letter of the law dispassionately – yet this kind of dispassion is exactly what Sotomayor, an activist judge who claims that race can influence a case and that policy is shaped from the bench – denies is possible.
The conclusion from all this – a conclusion which liberals are twisting themselves into pretzels trying to deny – is that Sotomayor is a racist judge who cares less about whites than she does about non-whites. It doesn’t matter what combination or permutation of twisted reasoning and strained excuses the left churns out in their disgraceful and shameful attempts to get a racist appointed to the bench – the truth is laid out as plain as a pikestaff and she should be blocked with every means at our disposal. Once again I find myself sickened and disgusted by the shamelessly offensive mentality flaunted by the left wing of the Democrat Party and their supporters.
he’s right on the money
18. AThinkingPerson:
“As I mentioned before in a comment to an earlier article, our first black TOTUS has taken race relations back 20 years at least. He had a great opportunity to transcend race and be what MLK dreamed but alas, he’s using his race to further his agenda.”
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I think you’re missing the bigger picture, ATP. They don’t want good “race relations”, they want to be the racists now. Turn about is fair play, Wright?
Hello people I read all the blogs and agree. The way to get our country back is to vote the dems out in 2010 and in the mean time is to have and support more tea parties and also tell our miss informed people who voted for the acorn elected potus that they are in the same bucket headed to no where real quick.
So apparently Sotomayor DOES believe that blacks are NOT able to compete straight on with whites, therefore she uses her power to clear the road for them.
Interesting.
The blacks are the racists in this situation. But, as others have observed, it ain’t racism when they do it.
So, white folks, you can forget about that crap from MLK about being judged by the content of your character instead of the color of your skin. MLK’s comments did not apply to whites.
Apparently.
This has been around a long time, it’s just becoming more and more obvious. Close to 20 years ago, our was in the opening years of his career with the Portland OR police department. Any “officer of color” who was tested for promotion was automatically given a 20% boost in test scores (because he wasn’t white). So those poor white suckers who studied hard for the tests and outscored the nonwhites could just take a hike and keep their mouths shut when the nonwhites with lower scores were promoted into limited #s of spots.
Racism indeed. Idiots.
that was our “SON” who was in the Portland police department….!:)
Well Educated Cad: Lets get one thing straight. Martin Luther King Jr. was far too conservative for today’s liberals. His dream of a color blind America does not serve their purposes and so they play lip service to his memory while doing whatever it takes to advance their political agendas. It will do no good to invoke his name in defense of equal rights because the left simply ignores his ideas. It is the same with JFK. They invoke his name, but he’s an irrelavant, far too conservative politician when it comes to public policy. Cut taxes across the board? You’ve got to be kidding. Look at people for their character rather than their skin color? Have you never heard of cultural pluralism and politically correct speech codes? We do not live with the same liberals as we once did, or for that matter with the same conservatives. Alot of things have changed for the better in race relations in this country, so in order to keep the power and money flowing -you have to change the rules. The rules have been changed since the Sixties. The rules will always change and you will always be on the defense. To Obama and his like-thinkers, justice has to do with getting even for past and present real and perceived grievances. Most of them are perceived, urban myths. Global warming advances an agenda, the science must be settled. White executives rape their employees and customers while flying high on their pain. White firefighters come from white biased educations which don’t work for people of color. It is the epitomy of racism – but it is not racism because it is spoken by a minority member who comes from the disadvantage of a white european biased America. Solutions? They have them and you don’t. The conversation is always one way only with these liberal bigots. They don’t want your point of view – they want a conversation to state their points of view and to “expose” your ingrained hate. Can they be beaten back? Only if people have the guts to learn about them and debate them publically and privately. Keep confronting. Let the “conversations” begin.
#10 Broadsword:
“Or does she believe that virtue comes from blood?”
And with that sentence, i think you’ve captured the essemce at the heart of what calls itself today’s civil rights movement.
What you did not say is that since they accept that virtue is genetic, then vice is likewise hereditary.
These are very dark times we are living in.
Want to quit feeling bad about being accused of being a racist? Simply just become one. Avoid minorities in all facets of your life as much as you can and you will discover a peaceful and stress free life.
Which has yet another facet: under the “empathy” theory, a diabetic should be sensitive to people with disabilities. In this case, I think she revealed a lot about her “empathy”, by showing that it only works if the person with a disability isn’t a white male.
It kind of makes me wonder how Sotomayor would have ruled if Ricci were gay. Given the Calvinball justice that she hands out, my guess is that he’d be Lieutenant by now.
The Messiah got 96% of the black vote, how often do you hear about that certainly being a racist voting block ? Had McCain gotten 96% of the white vote screams of racism would have been heard around the world…. Allah Akbar !!!
I just sent this to Glenn Beck.
I have been living overseas for awhile and I am an old school type person that understands your chalk board methods.I am used to companies that I work for having a organization charts for all their employees. Please put one up for me and others to see where is all the missing Geither people. And updated if he fills the slots. And you should run this daily if he has done nothing. It is our Treasury Department not his.
26. Meryl:
“The blacks are the racists in this situation. But, as others have observed, it ain’t racism when they do it.”
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Meryl, I’ve been harping on that very issue practically since I first started posting here and guess what I got/get called when I call people of an ethnicity other than mine racists?
Yep. A raaaaaaaaaaaaaaacistttttttt.
LOL! Being called a ‘racist’ has really lost its intended barbs with me, especially when it comes from blind hypocrites.
This is a new game:
“Who is the bigger racist!”
Let’s take a test shall we?
1). Do you believe some people deserve more than others based solely on ethnicity?
2). Do you think people of a certain ethnicity are smarter and more capable than people of another ethnicity?
3). Do you adhere to the belief that giving extra benefits to someone based on their ethnicity is a way of being ‘fair’?
4). Would you and your family willingly live in a predominantly black or Mexican neighborhood?
5). Do you believe black on black crime is a result of ‘unfairness’?
6). Do you believe that giving people of a certain ethnicity an unfair advantage makes the world a better place even though ‘dumbing’ down the system proves otherwise and gives said people less ambition to reach within themselves and become better for it?
7). Do you believe that voting for a President based on the mocha color of his skin makes you feel good about yourself or uplifts you in some way, regardless of who he is and whom he associates with?
8). Do you think that black people who have not been slaves since 1865 when slavery was abolished, should still receive reparations from ‘white’ people (many who had no history of owning slaves-EVER) based solely on the lack of melanin in their skin?
9). Do you concur that giving welfare to people who are happy to never work a hard day in their life is a good thing just so long as their vote goes your way?
10).Do you honestly, in your heart of hearts, think that racism only exists amongst white people and that people of any other shade of the rainbow are exempt from racism based solely on the shade of their skin?
Why do Sharpton/Jackson always get a light judgement ?
Now that Obama is back from his gathering of narcissist in L.A., and his saturday night date in NYC, it may be the appropriate time for another race relations speech. That is, if Chris Matthew’s leg can handle it.
“You’re taking him out of context.
He meant just the opposite.”
Martin Luther King, Jr. is most assuredly being taken out of context. He was adamantly for affirmative action programs by the end of his life. Find a copy of The Autobiography of Martin Luther King, Jr. , edited by Clayborne Carson. It’s all in there—in MLK’s own words! You don’t have to take my word for anything. The Rev, King was a flaming left-wing nutcase by the time of his murder. His popularity was in a steep decline. So much so, that I’m convinced he was more valuable to the leftist establishment as a assassinated martyr than a live has-been.
According to ethnic studies orthodoxy, one of the first things that you learn in XXX studies 101 is that only whites can be racist, because only whites have power. While this argument is just plain stupid on multiple levels, with a “black” president, and a Princeton/Yale Hispanic woman nominated for SCOTUS, that argument doesn’t even have a shadow of merit.
And as an aside, I am one white male who would love nothing more than to see the gaggle of sorry Northeastern privileged white liberal males such as the senators from Massachusetts thrown out on their butts, and one of them belongs in prison. Those sorry bastards may be white and male, but they have nothing to do with me. So connecting us by gender and race not only tar-brushes minorities; it also associates white males with some pretty sordid and obnoxious characters.
Please, get rid of all of the [liberal] white males in positions of power.
TO: All
RE: Senator Graham (R-SC) Is….
….another useful fool.
In an article at Fox News, this character appears to lack the necessary cognition to recognize the truth of a matter.
Why? Because if he were smart enough to review her opinions, he would likely realize that she IS a ‘racist’.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out.....and Senator Graham is likely to be VERY embarrassed....and removed from office at the next opportunity.]
RE #23/susan: [...] This is a good piece by a commenter on a blog, his name is Jason. He makes interesting points about the hypocrisy of the left: “I notice that both Obama and Gibbs have now claimed that Sotomayor made a “poor choice of words.” What this means is that they acknowledge [...]
“Poor choice of words”… remember other Soetoro tumbles?
1) … perhaps an unartful choice of words…
2) … it’s my staff that made me believe…
then, at: Yes or no, senator?
PRESENT!
Slippery, holographic, yet persistent -
#10 Broadsword:
“Or does she believe that virtue comes from blood?”
Once upon a time in merry ol’ England/France/Spain et al this was exactly what the aristocracy believed: they were the rulers by virtue of their birthright (blood).
How is that any different from someone who believes they are superior because of their ethnicity?
In response to Sotomayor’s ill-chosen wording: “We are not amused.”
3. David Thompson:
“Frank Ricci is our poster child. Sonia Sotomayor treated him in a despicable manner—and most Americans agree that he was treated unfairly. The odds are against her. Judge Sotomayor will have to withdraw her name from consideration in the near future. She is too hot to handle for those U.S. senators who eventually will seek reelection.”
–I usually agree with much of what you have to say, but historically senators seeking re-election are shoe-ins no matter what damaging policy they have created/supported. With a nice majority in Congress, Democrats (with some Republican support) will confirm this idiot pretty swiftly. And, most Americans are too busy watching American Idol and MSNBC to deal with or care about the rape of Frank Ricci. Priorities, right ?
This article is simply another veiled racist attack on our new President. It is long past time that people realise that the white man’s day is past. The bill is now due for four centuries of oppression and exploitation. The white man will pay the bill or suffer the consequences of his actions.
“Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging. Justice O’Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases. I am not so sure Justice O’Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes that line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am also not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, as Professor Martha Minnow has noted, there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”–Sotomayor
Eevryone’s talking about race because Sonia Sotomayor is an unabashed racist (hence her association with the party of Jim Crow).
Of course, the hilarious thing about Ms. Sotomayor’s racism is that she thinks being a Latino somehow makes her superior in wisdom to whitey, even though the only things her superior “race” and “culture” have ever produced are utterly corrupt, poverty-stricken dictatorships, and people that are good at swimming across the Rio Grande to escape those dictatorships.
Tell you what Sonia, if we’re going to pick judges based on inherent racial (physiological) or cultural characteristics, Latinos are going to be all the way down the list, because your “race” and “culture” ain’t produced doodly squat of value.
The only wisdom folks like yourself have ever shown is when you wisely packed your bags and left a dysfunctional Latino built nation and came to a hugely successful northern European/WASP built nation.
“And, most Americans are too busy watching American Idol and MSNBC to deal with or care about the rape of Frank Ricci.”
Most people are unaware of Frank Ricci. That’s why we must constantly repeat his name. He must become our poster child. And once this occurs—Sonya Sotomayor’s goose is cooked. Once again, most Americans are on our side regarding this issue
43. Yes We Did:
“This article is simply another veiled racist attack on our new President. It is long past time that people realise that the white man’s day is past. The bill is now due for four centuries of oppression and exploitation. The white man will pay the bill or suffer the consequences of his actions.”
That was some of the funniest satire I’ve read in weeks! Thank you for having a sense of humor. Sometimes, we need more guffaws and gallows giggles in the face of our dire sitch.
TO: All
RE: Yes We Did: Racist
Right from the horses ‘mouth’….or the other end.
The point is, it’s a blatant statement by this character that THEY are the REAL ‘racist’.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out....and 'Yes We Did' is going to have to do a LOT of 'tap-dancing' at the Judgment Seat.]
@6. Chuck Pelto:
In general, it is bad form to declare your conclusions before you have gathered any evidence. You keep braying about sexism and racism, but all you have accomplished is a demonstration that you don’t understand either. Guilty until proven innocent seems to be okay with you. Not cool.
@39. Chuck Pelto:
I agree that Graham is likely to be embarrassed – but not for denying that Sotomayor is a racist. He will be embarrassed to be seen demanding an apology for her statements, which require none. I also agree that Graham is likely to be removed from office – but you may find your aren’t any happier with his replacement.
Calling Judge Sotomayor a racist is just empty hyperbole. There is nothing in her record to suggest that this charge has merit, and much to suggest that it is baseless. Focus on her opinions, and demonstrate her faults there if you hope to retain any credibility. She is more experienced, and by objective measures a better judge than the last two to join the court.
Peace.
DS
“This article is simply another veiled racist attack on our new President. It is long past time that people realise that the white man’s day is past. The bill is now due for four centuries of oppression and exploitation. The white man will pay the bill or suffer the consequences of his actions.”
in true racist fashion
misanthropicus, I like your posts a lot
please would you take care of the trash at post 43?
I read #43 as satire – BUT – with some of the Obots running around eating Oshrooms, you can never be sure. In case it was serious, just remember, you can’t aim a gun stoned on shrooms. If you try, you’re in for a really bum trip.
A redneck wasted on moonshine will outshoot an Obot stoned on hopenchange any day of the week.
TO: All
RE: More from David S[tupid]
This from someone who doesn’t recognize prima facia evidence when presented to him.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out....and David S is going to be 'exposed'.]
How to keep a la raza member out of the supreme court:
Demand Obama to release his birth certificate!
HEROS of the Constitution:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
This is a blatant case of appearance trumping everything else. The nominee selection looks like the inevitable outcome of a political calculus based on the long worn argument that surely nobody will have the gumption to oppose a member of a supposedly mistreated minority.
What about the heft of her judicial mettle? Well, that’s just a technical problem, not a political one, so it can stay in the back seat, behind the tinted windows, as it were…
So the whole story is not really about whether the lady is qualified or not, it’s whether the Reps will muster the courage to prosecute the real argument, about whether the nominee is qualified to arbitrate constitutional matters, on the basis of her record, not her electoral ramifications. The reps can either fold in the face of intimidation or jump at the chance to uncover one of the most damaging fallacies of our times, the one that led the presumption of “absolute moral authority” to Cindy Sheenan because she had lost a son in war, whereas the president had not.
They may well lose the vote, but why should they lose the moral argument on top of it? If it comes down to that, America is already a lost cause.
When introduced by the president, she was clearly uncomfortable.
My impression was that she is smart enough to realize that the proposed promotion is beyond her real merit, and she rightfully dreads the prospect of being thrown into the arena for to the service of some political maneuvering.
Watch out, here’s some rare good news. Students in this Oakland Charter school might not need any of Barry’s and Sonia’s “empathy”* to tweak law (or anything else) in their favor.
Spitting in the eye of mainstream education
*In a speech a week after September 11, Obama bemoaned the 911 assassins’lack of “empathy”. Presumably, in his upcoming appearances in Riyadh and Cairo, Mr. Empathy will extol the virtues of Muslims.
@52. Chuck Pelto:
Your “prima facia” evidence is not. When examined in context, it is clear that your evidence of racism and sexism has no merit.
Peace.
DS
PS – The correct term is “prima facie” – and your resort to ad hominem attacks is prima facie evidence that you lack any further evidence for your position that Sotomayor is a racist or sexist. Have a nice day.
I believe Sotomayor will add value to the Supreme Court because I think diversity improves the effectiveness of institutions.
Seems to me that if the city did not wish to defend their hiring of a white, then they had already decided to hire a non-white before the test was administered.
End of June the Supreme Court may well reverse the Second Circuit.
A Sotomayor Ruling Gets Scrutiny
Should the Supreme Court reverse the Second Circuit, the complaining firefighters would have a chance to prove their claim at trial.
(also, there is (at least) a chance that Ahmadinejhad will go down in Iran’s June 12 election, keep your fingers crossed)
1. Well Educated Cad:
[Did not Martin Luther King Jr say that he looked to the day when his children were NOT judged by the color of their skin, but by their abilities? Whattever happened to that, Liberals?]
You are totally right. But I guess that Dr. King is only popular for liberals when they want to, selectively. The same happens to, in my opinion, the 2nd greatest African-American, a proponent of self-help: Frederic Douglass. As per Malcolm X, the fascist Islamic “brothers” got rid of him when he drew closer to the philosophy of the great Martin Luther King.
The most bizarre part of this story is that if anyone is entitled to empathy (yet never asked for it), it’s the firefighter in question, Frank Ricci. Here’s a guy that was a poor student in HS, realized he suffered from significant learning disabilities, and fought his way up the ladder (so to speak). “When his department announced exams for promotions, he spent $1,000 on books, quit his second job so he could study eight to 13 hours a day, and, because of his dyslexia, hired someone to read him the material.” (Charles Krauthammer: read the whole story at http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2009/05/29/2009-05-29_the_case_sotomayor_vs_ricci_gop_must_use.html ). He never said “Hey, I’m disadvantaged here, I deserve special consideration”; he just took the hand he was dealt, and played through that. The guy should be considered a hero, and maybe those firefighters who failed should learn his lesson.
#57 ProudLiberal wrote:
“I believe Sotomayor will add value to the Supreme Court because I think diversity improves the effectiveness of institutions.”
Cigar, cupcake, and medal from the People’s Congress.
What I fear is that one day we will all be compelled to speak like that, in pre-digested formulas for a pre-shrunk brain.
Intelligence and wisdom, culture and good-heart, good will and honesty:
THESE IMPROVE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE INSTITUTIONS.
THIS REVERSE RACISM IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING:
AND THE PSEUDO-CONCEPTUAL FRAME THAT SUPPORTS IT IS SHEER IDIOCY: how can “diversity” be a positive IN AND BY ITSELF ?
IN SUCH RACIST PHILOSOPHY IT IS IMPLIED THAT THE BEST JUDGE SHOULD COME FROM ANOTHER GALAXY.
How is all that different from the KKK saying that
whiteness will improve the effectiveness of the institutions ????
The homo sovieticus is already in our middle.
The adapted, formula chewer, yes man for every totalitarianism is already here.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
#61 HalifaxCB
Thank you for posting that.
I didn’t know the details about the man.
A true fighter.
Evidently, someone who “deserves” the full HATRED of the subversives, who know perfectly that Freedom is BUILT on such true fighters.
All this is profoundly disgusting.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
Aww, the Supreme Court is going to be less white. Cry about it.
TO: All
RE: More on How ‘Stupid’ David S Is
It’s a proven fact that Sotomayor is a racist, based on several items:
[1] That 3 of the 5 opinions she wrote in her position on the 2d Circuit Court of Appeals were overturned by the Supremes. See this.
[2] Her blatantly ‘racist’ and ‘sexist’ from her pre-written and rehearsed speech from 2001. See THIS!
[3] Her ‘opinion’ that Black and Hispanic convicted felons should be allowed to vote. See this.
[4] Her ‘opinion’ that white firefighters should not be promoted over blacks….just because their promotion ‘test scores’ were ‘higher’. See THIS!
[5] Her association with La Raza, on their ‘National Committee’. See THIS!
Nope! No ‘prima facia’ evidence HERE people. Move along….Move along….
It is my honestly held opinion that David S is an (1) idiot and (2) an outrageous liar. Probably BOTH….
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out....and David S will be 'exposed'.]
Then it’s the job of the GOP to make sure that she does not make a good appearance. They need to keep their cool while making her indict herself. This will not be easy; she is a lawyer and a judge, and she’s seen it all. But she does have a record, and she can be asked how her record comports with the Constitution and with her oath as a judge to do equal justice to all.
If this gets bad enough, it may peel off some Democratic votes. In particular, if the stink reaches the voting public these senators may see it peeling off some of their votes. Of course, the ones just elected are probably immune. But the ones who have to stand for election next year, or in three years, may be vulnerable.
The key is that it has to Sotomayor’s own words and judgements that damn her. And her actions, too, in being associated with La Raza. How does membership in a seccessionist organization comport with the Constitution, for which Lincoln fought one of the bloodiest wars in the history of civilization.
proudliberalretard
“I believe Sotomayor will add value to the Supreme Court because I think diversity improves the effectiveness of institutions.”
the man you love to fellate the most, obama denied miguel estrada (a real latino with poor background with outstanding curriculum) a seat on the supreme court to let his diversity improve the effectiveness of your institution on the basis that he was not from his political area.
Do you know where you can shove your nonsensical babble?
thanks again for proving leftism is a mental disease for which there is no cure
Aww, the Supreme Court is going to be less white. Cry about it.
Sorry, sweet pea, I’m too busy crying over this, a judge who doesn’t appear to have much regard for impartiality.
Still, Judge Sotomayor questioned whether achieving impartiality “is possible in all, or even, in most, cases.” She added, “And I wonder whether by ignoring our differences as women or men of color we do a disservice both to the law and society.”
I’m also crying over the notion, completely antithetical to the concept of the judiciary spelled out in the Constitution, that…
This month, for example, a video surfaced of Judge Sotomayor asserting in 2005 that a “court of appeals is where policy is made.”
Anyway, for your edification, “Hispanic” isn’t a racial designation but pertains to place of origin. Some Hispanics are very much people of PalloUr as opposed to people of ColoUr.
La Raza
Wasn’t Barack Obama away giving a speech to La Raza when Reverend JWright gave his GodDamn America speech ? (so…how could O know what his preacherman had spewed, right ?)
John McCain also speechified at La Raza during the campaign. That would be the John McCain who described individuals in this country illegally as “children of God”
Everybody’s pandering to Hispanics, with upcoming Amnesty under Barack they will be an even HUGER voting block.
Obama needed support for amnesty for all the illegals in this country. That’s why he nominated the La Raza member. More votes for the party destroying America. Being a minority is good being white is bad.
Modern day diversity is ruining this country.
Wake up America otherwise your days are numbered.
“I believe Sotomayor will add value to the Supreme Court because I think diversity improves the effectiveness of institutions.”
The U.S. is screwed because we let idiots like this vote.
La Raza – CAIR for Hispanics.
Whites used to have racist groups too claiming to represent them too, but they weren’t quite treated as legitimate representatives of all whites by the media for some odd reason.
Wonder why that is?
Would somebody please explain the term “reverse recism” to me. This implies that only whites can be racist, as when racism is applied to them it is in “reverse”.
Racism is racism period.
Someone tell me…why would blacks ever want true “equality”? Why would they want a level playing field and equal opportunities? They know they cant make it under such conditions. They need the give aways, the set aside non performance contracts, the subsidized housing the college degrees they didnt earn, the federal jobs they cant perform. Only white liberals believe they are building in some distant future a non racial impartial society. A future which however, never seems to arrive no matter how many programs or how much money is spent to make it happen. Blacks know better. Blacks want what they have now.. a elaborate game where via empty speeches, race baiting, bogus posturing you can rise to the very top…you can even become President someday.
64. proudliberal:
“Aww, the Supreme Court is going to be less white. Cry about it.”
~
So, you don’t want justice to be blind? How pithy of you to wind that little twisted turd of a comment into the mental diarrhea you so obviously espouse. I hope your brain fails. Nevermind, spoke too soon.
Why would they (blacks) want a level playing field and equal opportunities? They know they cant make it under such conditions. They need the give aways, the set aside non performance contracts, the subsidized housing the college degrees they didnt earn…
Sorry, there are many accomplished blacks who have a real, fundamental disdain for entitlements, affirmative action, etc.
To name just one, Clarence Thomas is on record as being enormously opposed to affirmative action measures/laws/programs.
Ever heard a Bill Cosby speech or read a Thomas Sowell essay or listened to Larry Elder or Ken Hamblin ?
Other individuals of African American descent (I’ve heard them) have caught on to the lifelong shtick of the Jesse Jacksons & Al Sharptons of the planet, the “my people need special treatment” line (from which both Jesse & Al have personally profited)
It doesn’t serve you well to make such egregious generalizations, whether about blacks, whites, pinks, browns, yellows or even greens. …know any green people ?
Seems the senate minority leader isn’t buying the “she’s a racist” line being pushed here.
Must be a RINO, right?
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/31/mcconnell-better-things-to-do-than-play-speech-police/#more-54192
@65. Chuck Pelto:
Quick quiz on myths about Sonia Sotomayor. The following statements are True evidence of racism or sexism or False statements intended to mislead:
[1] That 3 of the 5 opinions she wrote in her position on the 2d Circuit Court of Appeals were overturned by the Supremes.
False.
“Three of the five majority opinions written by Judge Sotomayor for the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals and reviewed by the Supreme Court were reversed.” In case your reading comprehension has failed you, most of her opinions were not reviewed by the Supremes – and her reversal rate was better than average. “…the Supreme Court typically reverses about 75 percent of circuit court decisions that it chooses to rule upon.
[2] Her blatantly ‘racist’ and ’sexist’ from her pre-written and rehearsed speech from 2001.
False.
Read on… “…to understand takes time and effort, something that not all people are willing to give. For others, their experiences limit their ability to understand the experiences of others. Other simply do not care. Hence, one must accept the proposition that a difference there will be by the presence of women and people of color on the bench. Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see.”
[3] Her ‘opinion’ that Black and Hispanic convicted felons should be allowed to vote.
False.
Convicted felons in New York already are allowed to vote. It helps if you read the article, Chuck.
[4] Her ‘opinion’ that white firefighters should not be promoted over blacks….just because their promotion ‘test scores’ were ‘higher’.
False.
Her opinion was nothing of the sort. She ruled that the city had the right to declare the test results void – she did not rule on who should be promoted or why, because her opinion was appropriately narrow and focused on the issues at hand. You could learn a lot from her if you would stop yelling “racist” and listen.
[5] Her association with La Raza, on their ‘National Committee’.
False.
There is no reason to believe La Raza is racist. Their values are not racist.
Unless you think equality is racist?
Peace.
DS
Racism is racism period.
Seems right. I think that (primarily) black gangs looking down on and attacking the business places of Koreans in Los Angeles definitely qualifies as “racist”.
Based on her widely publicized comments (and her opinion in the firefighter case), Sotomayor qualifies as prejudiced against non-Hispanic “white” people.
Reverend JWright and black liberation theologists in general are racist.
Louis Farrakhan is one of the most disgustingly & flagrantly biased individuals on the planet, since his Muslim Brotherhood is practically founded on anti-Semitism.
73. Metz:
“Would somebody please explain the term “reverse recism” to me. This implies that only whites can be racist, as when racism is applied to them it is in “reverse”.
Racism is racism period.”
~
You just emoted something I’ve felt too and you nailed it in much simpler and easier to understand terms. THANK YOU for making putting the ‘OBVIOUS’ into laymen terms.
Bless your heart! -And, no, there is no explanation or validity for reverse racism. YOU ARE SO RIGHT. Racism is racism. PERIOD.
*phew*
74. ehunter,
Until we stop playing who is smarter or who is the biggest victim, our world will continue to churn out racists from all shades of the ethnic spectrum.
We brand each other with labels and judge each other accordingly and then us that i.d. to reward via ‘quotas’. Is this not racism in its purest form?
Black people are superior at man sports and they have pretty much taken over MANY of them. Do you hear white people decrying the fact that blacks are better than them and that it’s not ‘fair’?
Pathetic.
gah. correction: ‘many’ not ‘man’
ehunter, I’m not sure what you’re trying to say with: They know they cant [sic] make it under such conditions., but if you’re positing that they’re inherently inferior, take it to Stormfront and stay out of here. If, OTOH, you’re trying to say that many are so irreparably uneducated that they can’t compete, that’s very different, and a righteous damnation of our schools and broader policies and racial politics.
Please be clear about these things; there’s a world of difference between those two interpretations.
I hope my typo riddled rants were legible.
-But, in closing…
How many times do we hear white men lamenting that black men have an unfair advantage when it comes to sports?
How many times has the bar been lowered to allow more white men who can’t ‘jump’ into sports?
If you excel, you excel, if you fail, you fail.
Get it? Got it? GOOD.
#73 Metz: “Would somebody please explain the term “reverse recism” to me. This implies that only whites can be racist, as when racism is applied to them it is in “reverse”.
Racism is racism period.”
Good point! I am guilty of using the term reverse racism in the past. Will not in the future!
Racism IS racism. Plain and simple. Again, good point.
Last night I watched a black woman commentator on CNN laugh at the idea that white people were getting discriminated against. That she should be so ignorant is testament to the habit of most white people not making a fuss about it. Time for a change our boy in the big house wasn’t counting on. Those who don’t actively oppose this idiot judge in the Senate may rue the day come their next election. People are beginning to pay attention like never before. RINOs ignore the Tea Party at their peril. “We’re mad as hell and…”
I never quite figured out that “Latino” tag…I mean, I’m half Italian,(the other half’s mostly Irish, which makes me pretty much American in the mix of it)an’ from what I gather, history’s told me I would have more entitlements towards a claim of “Latino” (In regards to the root word being “Latin”)than any person whose origins commence on the “Western” side of the globe,(Of course I’m speakin’ of the world, after it divided itself into the hemispheres). Granted the migration seems to have occurred through Asia to the Mid-east, to the Mediterranean, an’ then with the conquistadors sailed off across the Atlantic an’ forced bred themselves with the natives there. So basically they’re all half Spanish or Portuguese under those terms, with a lot of bitterness in the batter…But to identify yourself as Spanish or Portuguese, is jest to be off-shoot Italian, which is off-shoot Turkish, which is off-shoot Arabian, which is off-shoot, (it is my contention), Asian to some extent….In the end, we were all some kind of fish I imagine….Yet the La Raza crowd would call me “whitey”…even with my Italian origins (even considering the heaps of adulations they pour upon the fictions of Tony Soprano or Don Corleone…They still consider those characters “whitey” because of their status in American culture.)…..so like I said, it’s got nuthin’ ta do with “race” really, it’s more about power, nationalism…and conartistry.
Aww the poor widdle white male has it off so bad.
After you guys are done crying that the world is changing to include — gasp — a female minority Supreme Court candidate, you might want to take my advice and cool your jets regarding claims of “racism” or “reverse racism” coming from Justice Sotomayor.
Had Latinos been ruling the world for the last 2,000 years, you might have had a point. Now you’re just suffering from Old White Guy Derangement Syndrome. A common affliction among aging white men seeing the world pass them by.
PL
Proud Liberal (#57), Where is Sontomayor’s diversity when she is herself a demagogue & racist? All you’re doing is blithely looking at her skin color & nothing more. The content of her character is where it counts. And the content of Sontomayor’s character is corrupt with racism against Caucasians.
Meh, that’s a strawman.
She will be confirmed 100-0, unless the GOP is suicidal.
Justice Sotomayor is an excellent public servant who possesses the most important trait of a judge and effective public servant: empathy.
I’m already doing my victory dance. 100 for progress, 0 for old and tired strawmen.
A “whitey” is a kind of T-shirt….prone ta showin’ how dirty the wearer can get.
Wonder if Bush ever took his wife on a $24,000 taxpayer-paid date night in New York like Obama did over the weekend. See the New York Post story below
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05312009/news/nationalnews/obama_keeps_his_big_apple_pledge_171810.htm
This is so much fun I can hardly contain myself. Who would have thought that our “Dear Leader” so much smarter, better prepared, way more intellectual then anyone else ever, would make so many choices to fill positions in his cabinet or wherever that would cause so much controversy. This is just a hoot. I’m really beginning to like the standard Obambi response to the dumb things that one of his choices may have said…they misspoke…heh heh heh…yeah sure they did. And I’ll bet old Patrick Henry didn’t really mean it when he said “Give me liberty or give me death”. He just misspoke, right…Funnneeeeeeyyyyy
TO: Sebastian Shaw
RE: proudliberal
Don’t sweat the small-fry.
The fit is going to hit the shan. Probably within the next 18 months.
Just be prepared…..
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[By rendering the labor of one, the property of the other, they cherish pride, luxury, and vanity on one side; on the other, vice and servility, or hatred and revolt. -- James Madison]
Proud Liberal (#90), you sound like a brainwashed person or robot. Her rulings have been overturned 80% of the time. What does that say about her? Her anti-white bias is well known. If she was a white male, she would be a member of the Ku Klux Klan or some other offshoot of the Aryan Nation; however, she backs La Raza, a Mexican racist group looking to subvert America.
Where is my Straw Man? Point it out & explain why it’s a Straw Man. I believe I am discussing the content of her corrupt character.
Not surprisingly, your whole argument is based on a false premise. The judgement was collective and anonymous. That is it is attributable to several judges. You could no more lay this at the feet specifically of Sotomayor, than you could any of the individual judges who collectively wrote the judgement.
Trying to hide your racism behind some kind of illusory process of reason, only makes it look worse in the light of fact. What is your opposition to Sotomayor ostensibly based on:
–one sentence in a half hour speech from years past
–a joint and anonymous judgement, which you characteristically mischaracterize [or misunderstand]
–anonymous smears and lies about her comportment and intelligence
There is nothing else. Yes, America is having that talk about race. The only people afraid of having it honestly and openly are the writers and subscribers of this pig wallow. Unfortunately for you, mainstream media is being far more open about the provenance and motive of the kind of crap you’re peddling here, and the only people who will be smeared by it are its adherents.
My pantries (yes, plural lol) are loaded for bear. Any pansy assed liberal who comes begging me for food is going to have a lot of ‘splainin’ to do before I ration out ‘charity’ to people who expected to subside on ‘dohbama bux’. We shall see. Hopefully nothing so dire in circumstance shall befall us but I’m staying prepared just the same.
“There is no reason to believe La Raza is racist.”
Nah, no reason to suspect that a group that calls itself “National Council of the Race” is racist.
That would be silly.
The Republicans should make the biggest stink about this possible, at least to be on the record.
But it won’t happen, because they have gonads the size of a flea.
Good grief, this woman is a flaming nut job who has about as much business being on the bench anywhere as I do performing brain surgery.
God help us.
…the most important trait of a judge and effective public servant: empathy.
Cough, gag.
No mention of empathy as a trait to be sought in any judge (let alone a Supreme Court judge appointed for life) anywhere in the Federalist papers or Article III (the judiciary) or anywhere else in the Constitution.
Why do you think Lady Justice is blindfolded ? Her job isn’t to empathize with one party or the other, but to administer the law impartially and evenhandedly.
In her opinion in the New Haven case, Judge Sotomayer empathized with the black firefighters who were unable to pass the exam.
This is a flagrant miscarriage of justice.
proud liberal.”Justice Sotomayor is an excellent public servant who possesses the most important trait of a judge and effective public servant: empathy.”
from that statement i doubt you’re a liberal much less a proud one…you’re just pulling our collective leg.because if you honestly believe that there is NO hope for you.
why would a supreme court judge need empathy,are you working from a premise that people at heart are sociopaths,and you must constantly remind them to be human?
seriously flawed logic.use the brain..that what it is there for.
Sotomayer
Sotomayor
Empathy for one party over another in a contested action is tantamount to prejudice.
You liberals, proud and otherwise, are happy to trash the law when it goes in a direction you ideologically favor.
You don’t seem to understand that such kinds of prejudicial rulings can cut both ways.
The Democrats are obsessed with race. They supported slavery, opposed anti-lynching laws and on while acting like superiors. Their last trick was to elect a “black” man form a white liberal mother who supports targeting minority mothers for abortions. These libs have issues.
96. Jo Mama,
Hey, C-word, what say you about Rev. Wright? What say you about the current lawsuit involving four white firement? What say you about O.J. Simpson?
What say YOU about black and hispanic racists who want to breed out ‘whitey’?
Aztlan Rising
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajkAP_M4ZAM
“After you guys are done crying that the world is changing…”
The Democrats have always been racists. Nothing’s changing.
David S:
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: There is no reasoning with Chuck Pelto. He’s childish and resorts to petty attacks (e.g. David S[tupid]) and he’s immune to logic.
You can go back and forth with him all day, but I promise you that there is absolutely nothing you can say that is correct and nothing he can say that is false. In essence, that’s why you’re arguing with a 5-year old.
This is probably why he’s been banned on so many online forums. Literally, there is nothing he won’t disagree with.
It’s sad really.
I think Republicans have the moral highground on the issue of bigotry and it’s the left that needs to reform their policies. Republicans advocate a color-blind society that treats people as individuals rather than victims who belong to some identity group. It’s the left that has thrived off of idenity based politics and has used is shamelessly to score political points and win votes. And it’s simply heartbreaking and disgusting when you see a lot of these reverse discrimination policies of the left played out in real life. Like for example when a college applicant applies to a university and they’ve been dreaming about joining that college almost all of their life and have worked their butt off to accomplish it. Only to get rejected because they were white and had the “wrong” skin color or had male genitals instead of female genitals. It’s almost like being told to go to the back of the bus.
And leftists and “minorities” know it isn’t right deep down. Taking the chains off of black people only to place them on white people is evil and wrong and has no place being legal policies in the 21st century. Especially when considering that most of this “white male” privilege myth is mostly made up. As if all white people or all males had a free ticket in life and just coasted to where they are today. It also ignores the backgrounds of people like my family who were enslaved and grossly abused by muslim turks in the Balkans which happened after slavery was abolished in this country. My great grandfather finally escaped to America with my great grandmother only to be abused and discrimated against by black Americans here in America ironically enough. But you won’t find my family asking for special treatment.
I live in an upper middle class and very diverse area in Northern Virginia where the family down the street from us is asian, the family up the street from us is hispanic, the family next to them is asian, the family next to them is white, the family next to them is mixed race with a white father and asian mother, the family next to them is white, the family next to them is from Iran, the family next to them is white, the family next to them is from India, the family next to them is white, the family next to them is mixed race with a white father and native American mother and the family behind me fled from Taliban controlled Afghanistan beleive it or not, etc.
And I honestly think we pretty much all share the same concerns politically, economically and socially. That’s why I’ve never been comfortable with the existance and promotion of identity based activist groups that only support the advancement of their own “kind” at all costs. There shouldn’t be hispanic only organizations, or asian only organizations, or black only organizations, or arab only only organizations, etc, anymore than there should be white only organizations. When I see these types of “tribal” political organizations it makes me uncomfortable. And it makes me angry and disgusted sometimes when I see how blatanly they’re trying to get an advantage over everyone else legally without regard for anyone outside of their group.
It makes me think “Uh, where’s my white only actvist organization that’s out there doing everything they can at whatever the cost to promote me and my family in the job and college market?” I don’t want to be handicapped when I’m trying to get a job or applying to a college simply because of my skin color or gender. That’s immoral and indefensible in my opinion. I fully support legal framework for people that feel they’ve been discriminated against but reverse discrimination activism like implementing quotas, placing racist and sexist judges on the Supreme Court and generally demonizing and belittling white males (or anyone for that matter) needs to end. It’s common sense and is one of the reasons why I respected the Republicans and became a Republican. We should stand firm on these policies and not budge an inch because we’re on the right side of history.
I like this part:
“One wonders how we have gotten to the point at which city officials are cowed into abandoning equal treatment of its citizens for fear of “bad press” and of the “civil rights” lobby, which stands ready to pounce on any employer (private or public) whose “numbers” don’t look “right.””
One, i don’t know what you’re quoting when you say “bad press” or “civil rights” but I know it’s not from the actual ruling. The ruling points out that the city had a legitimate cause to dismiss the test because they could be sued under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. That’s a hell of a lot more significant than “bad press.”
It’s sort of funny though. Conservatives have to tip toe around saying they want to overturn a portion of the freakin CIVIL RIGHTS ACT, so they make these little intellectually dishonest comments. As though New Haven just randomly decided not to promote Ricci. It’s also pretty slick making Ricci the face of the case. Ricci isn’t the only person in the suit, but Ricci is white. We have to keep quiet about the fact that allowing the test to be thrown out means Sotomayor ruled against the hispanic guy that passed the test too, because we have to make up things about her being racist and hating whites.
Welcome the New World man- Homo Obamus.
88. proudliberal writes:
“Had Latinos been ruling the world for the last 2,000 years, you might have had a point.”
Maybe not the last two millenia, but surely Spain was one of the more influential contributors to the character of the New World; probably the reason for characterizing everything below the Rio Grande as “Latin America”.
So, how did that work out, old son? Let’s ask the Aztecs and the Incas how they liked the Conquistadors. How did the Mexicans like Spanish rule? How about the indian tribes of the South West and early California? Did they have have enough empathy for you, comrade?
~Voska PVO
95. Sebastian Shaw: . . .”Her rulings have been overturned 80% of the time.”
Better check that. I’ll hold off.
For a definitive examination of American racial realities I recommend the American Renaissance web site. It’s one of the few places where these racial issues are presented in an educated and civil forum.
97. Delia:
HAHAHA! You have no choice in the matter. pay your taxes, at risk of seizure and/or imprisonment and be quiet.
Can a latina woman understand US Constitution?
http://hyphenatedamericans.blogspot.com/2009/05/can-latina-woman-understand-us.html
i maybe wrong but Spanish are white too.
her wise Latina speech brings into question her judgement, which this argument is all about. racism is racism no matter who it is applied to. lets face it everyone has been discriminated against at one time or another. it sucks and race and color is the easiest handle for the ignorant to grasp.
You conservatives are going to go crazy when the GOP senators vote unanimously to confirm Justice Sotomayor.
The GOP values its political future over the cranky rantings of irrelevant old white male blog commenters. And they know that you’ll always vote for them as long as they throw you a bone every now and then.
lets not make that handle the biggest thing about us
“Had Latinos been ruling the world for the last 2,000 years, you might have had a point.”
Proudliberal: did you not know that ‘Latino’ means ‘Latin’ which means Roman? Have they not been ruling the world, in some form or another, for the last 2000 years?
demented proud liberal
(all liberals are affected by uncurable mental disease and you are evidence of it)
the latinos controls the whole south america. South american countries are de facto third world countries (some of them second world countries).
If you are latino, there is no wonder that you feel ashamed and have an inferiority complex. It must suck to be in your situation.
If you are only a white liberal, well, you are merely underdeveloped mentally, no matter what is your ethnicity/country of origin.
#117, #90, and #88, PL, hey, what do you have against old people? Or is it old white folk just in general? You must really hate the older white liberal population that’s currently in office. So what’s the deal? You’ve shared your wisdom on other subjects.
Let’s face it, to barack Obama, and people like Sonja Sotomayor, the first ten amendments are simply something to talk your way around if they’re stated meanings get in the way of your stated goals, sociological, economic or political.
To put it another way, the progressive/socialist, marxist left doesn’t care what happened before, they just care what should be done now.
If state, federal laws or the highest law of the land, the constitution, differs with their goals, their job is to find a way around them.
These incurable leftists have left the law of the land behind and are out to change American into their image and likeness; a social state where African Americans are given what’s needed to put them in positions of power. In metaphorical terms, Barack and his clan want to put the whips of power into the hands of black people who never before handled them.
Should whites be hurt in the process, it’s unfortunate, but necessary.
Big corporations were the last bastion of white power and leadership. Which is why Barack and his buddies, wiht the help of ethically dorment people like Barney Frank, intentionally created the economic sub-prime mess that was to seriously damage the economic backbone of this country. In other words, nothing was left to chance. It was all intentional.
One of the intended results; uhe breakup of big corporations meant a chance to throw out the white bosses, and replace them with bosses of color, or, at least, members of those in the progressive/socialist camp.
The price of all this reorganization of power may very well be the destruction of the U.S. as a super power. Which is fine with the leftists who are setting fuses every day attached to time bombs that figuratively will eventually blow up the old America where self reliance, independence, the American Dream, all Horatio Alger stories will be either done away with or colored black.
To these malicious, misfit miscreants, Red White and Blue, old glory, no longer represents this country symbolically in their minds. The new symbol might very well be the black thugs standing with billy bats on the steps of a voter regisration site in Philadelphia, ready to beat to a pulp anyone who looks like they won’t vote the black/socialist line.
Consequently, those of us who still believe in freedom for all are organizing in every way we can.
First with tremendous caches of weaponry, small and large, and second with patriots who know how to create a political, economic and social chain of command that’s obviously needed to fight the malignant menace in Washington that seeks to destroy our constitution and country.
So far, we’re in the process of taking over, though democratic means, school boards who support the re-education of America which, for example, taught that the Enola Gay was sent on its mission, not to end WWII, but, rather to demontrate to the non-white world that the United States would essentially vaporize anyone who disagreed with them. Incidentally, these lies and liars who taught this tripe, are teaching no more. At least, not around here.
Consequenty, in the name of all is good about America, we’re putting our foot down because our backs are to the wall. Drawing a geographical line in the sand where the pollutors of our ideals, among them, life, liberty and the persuit of happiness, had better not cross. Personally, while I believe domestic American-haters have the words to threaten and revile, I don’t think they have the will to carry them out. No guts. No glory.
Those in Washington out to destroy America will themselves be delt with by the kinds of Americans who will defend freedom, liberty and our constitution just as long as we have a breathing and a metabolizing.
The “game” now is to get the numbers right — that is boost the numbers of some but not all “disadvantaged minorities.>>
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I don’t agree.
The short term strategy is to get the numbers right.
The long term goal is get “The Power” and turn America into a apartheid country run by a coalition of
1. Non-Whites, exluding Native Americas because the liberals could care less about them. Even though ironically almost all of the Hispanics living is America today are at least 50% Indian, just not American Indian.
2. White liberal women
3. Gays and Lesbians
The ruling points out that the city had a legitimate cause to dismiss the test because they could be sued under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.
So the city of New Haven threw out the results of the test (reportedly, a test that had been vetted as objective and mainly relating to things like making emergency firefighter decisions under duress and the like) because it was afraid of being sued ?
And the 3 judge second circuit panel upheld the city ? (the larger 2nd circuit panel was barred from re-hearing the case after the 3-judge decision)
Man, I sure hope the SC overturns the Ricci ruling later this month, else it’s time for me to move to someplace more user friendly, maybe Cuba.
It seems the only ones making this a race issue are Republicans. I may not agree with Sotomayor’s rulings, but her background and the odds she had to overcome make her qualified in my opinion.
Typically when it comes to liberals they talk about how they are for diversity, but then fill the important roles with other liberal white people then leave a couple token spots for minorities. Now they’ve actually changed their ways to their benefit.
Meanwhile the Republican plan of attack seems to be pulling the ‘I thought it was about equality’ anytime a white person isn’t appointed to a position. Ridiculous. Considering Hispanics make up some 20% of the population, it was only a matter of time.
John Galt,
It sounds like “git whitey” nightmare. Return to your gated community and pet your gun.
proudliberal,
you are an imbecile.
Middleman, the Democrats & the MSM are playing the race card talking about Sotomayor’s Latino heritage; they are daring the Republicans to talk about it. However, the Republicans should talk about the substance of her character in her 80% overturned rulings & the current ruling she had in the US Supreme Court. Sotomayor can literally be cut down with her own words. By rights, she should not be confirmed given she is a racist demagogue.
Sebastian,
Fair enough. Republicans SHOULD go after her based on rulings, instead of bitching about how she’s had an easy ride in. Climbing out of a ghetto hell hole into law school isn’t an easy ride and I’ll at least give her credit for doing so.
Middleman;
Just remember- we are the ones with the guns. Care to try to take them away?
Back in 2003, 118 firefighters took tests for promotion to captain and lieutenant. The city paid $100,000 to I/O Solutions, a testing company from Illinois, which observed and interviewed New Haven firefighters — two-thirds of whom were white — to see which parts of their jobs were relevant and important.
Out of 27 African Americans who took the test, not one scored high enough to be promoted — and city officials feared that opened them to lawsuits.
I/O Solutions…created a 100-question test and a detailed study guide…The test was divided into a written exam, worth 60 percent of the total score and an oral exam worth 40 percent. For the oral part, I/O Solutions brought in assessors from across the country, two-thirds of whom were minorities, to listen to and judge the firefighters’ answers.
118 firefighters took the test in 2003, 20 passed, 19 whites, one Hispanic, 27 blacks failed.
That means 71 non-black firefighters failed the test as well.
Trial By Fire
Climbing out of a ghetto hell hole into law school isn’t an easy ride and I’ll at least give her credit for doing so.
She had an involved mother who put “great stress on the value of education”, according to the infamous Wiki) Her brother is is a physician.
Her dad died when she was 9
Ghetto hell hole, different places in the Bronx, is a bit of hyperbole, but what else is offered from you True Believers but emotionally charged hyperbole ?
@ 124
Title VII automatically makes any employment method that results in disparate racial impact automatically suspect. Therefore the company can be sued and the burden placed upon them to not only show that the test is objective, but that it is also absolutely instrumental to employment. The latter is generally really hard to prove. Especially with regard to tests.
This used to be a standard that was made by court precedent, but it ended up written in law.
So New Haven acted to just throw out the test rather then go through with all that.
Which is a hell of a lot different from avoiding “bad press” as Ms. Rubin dishonestly states.
Title VII automatically makes any employment method that results in disparate racial impact automatically suspect.
It wasn’t an employment test, it was a promotion test.
The disparate impact wasn’t racial but seems to be a function of who studied the detailed study guide put out beforehand by the company hired by the city to create the test.
And those 71 non-black individuals who failed the test better get busy with their own lawsuit before any limitations statute kicks in, eh wot ?
114.HAHAHA! You have no choice in the matter. pay your taxes, at risk of seizure and/or imprisonment and be quiet”
sarcasm?if not,you are in for a rude awakening,tax revenues across the board are way down, and critical services are among the first being cut.(you know,the stuff the most in need depend on).ever taken a moment to ponder how this will aso affect vital charity organizations,chuckles?the whole economic system is on the verge of collapse and you’re laughing…what up with that,more “gallows humor?”
“It wasn’t an employment test, it was a promotion test. ”
And the person receiving the promotion would have a different job than they previously had… IT’S AN EMPLOYMENT TEST.
“The disparate impact wasn’t racial”
If no black people passed the test then the impact was racial disparity. This isn’t rocket science.
“And those 71 non-black individuals who failed the test better get busy with their own lawsuit before any limitations statute kicks in, eh wot ?”
Why would they do that if the test already got thrown out?
I don’t really understand the point of your post. This is where conservatives are screwing up. Trying to dance around the law rather then addressing the law head on. If the law is the problem then SAY SO. Don’t try to reinterpret it to fit what you want to happen.
This is the federal government’s position on the issue (which is essentially the same as New Haven’s):
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/argument-preview-ricci-v-destefano/
“…the government argues that Congress intended for employers to voluntarily comply with Title VII’s demands. Similarly, Congress could not have provided remedies for disparate treatment and disparate impact if it did not intend, following racially biased test results, for employers to act to prevent that disparate impact. Consequently, under Title VII, an employer can reject such results as long as it has a “good faith” belief that its test produced disparate impact.”
I was going to comment, but I think #44 said pretty much everything I wanted to say(and better than I could possibly hope to say it) except this:
Racial equality is nonsense because it’s based on the assumption that all races are equal, and they most certainly are not.
If no black people passed the test then the impact was racial disparity. This isn’t rocket science.
Was it “racial disparity” for the 71 non-black persons who didn’t pass the test ?
(this isn’t rocket science, either)
Why would they do that if the test already got thrown out?
The suggestion that the 71 failing non-blacks file suit was sarcasm.
It seems that Leftist diehards don’t do sarcasm, irony or humoUr. Apparently, there isn’t room inside…
The Socialist Brain of a Liberal Democrat
Cad,
I’m not interested in taking people’s guns away, but if I were, I’d just leave the ATF up to it. You’d soil yourself and give up with the first tear gas canister.
Okay, let’s all calm down and give Sonia Sotomayor some cred for resisting the sharpie eye-browed, brown lip-linered ‘chola’ look.
@107. Someone75:
There is no reasoning with Chuck Pelto. He’s childish and resorts to petty attacks and he’s immune to logic.
While it is true that there is no reasoning with CP, it is certainly entertaining to watch his twisted attempts at logic. I can’t help but provoke the old coot – it’s just too much fun.
It’s sad really.
I know it’s quite tragic, but I tend to look for the silver lining. At least he can be quite fun to observe as he crusades against logic, decency and common sense. He’s a war horse in his own Quixotic mind.
Peace.
DS
“If no black people passed the test then the impact was racial disparity. This isn’t rocket science.”
So what? Had the people who passed the test been all black and the results thrown out, do you think Sotomayor and her like minded social engineers would have ruled the same? If you do, your a fool. The point of this is that she and the other leftist judges attempted to bury the equal protection issues in this case so as to limit the ability of Rici and the other litigants to appeal. They did this because they favor specific policies that cannot withstand constitutional scrutiny from honest, fair justices. They simply did all they could to put their finger on the scale for their preferred identity group.
If you lefties want to live in a banana republic where the rules get made at the whim of a few at the top, or worse, unelected little dictators in robes, you should probably move to Venezuela or Cuba and see the reality of your world view.
Sotomayor is an absurd nomination based completely on her bizarre lack of respect for our constitution. It has nothing to do with her “life story” and you left wingers can spare us the race nonsense. We see how far that goes for you clowns when the nominee is to the right of Sean Penn. (See Clarence Thomas.)
“A three-judge panel including Sotomayor upheld, and adopted as its own, a federal District judge’s ruling against the white firefighters.”
Well, that’s because Sotomayer is a racist who from her position in the courts is helping to uphold government enforced racism in violation of the law.
Naturally, the Democrats love her, because their party has been doing that ever since the civil war, so she fits right in with their governing philosophy and their proud Jim Crow tradition.
So; White men create the circumstances for these parasites to discriminate and “outlaw” the creators; Why doesn’t the white man just eliminate himself from the human race to make things fair?
#40 Middlefinge…err..LittleHead-
One of your other Communist leaders ( Clinton) did try to send the FBI to tear gas and take away the guns of some Texans- Remember Waco?
How did that go for the FBI and Janet Reno?
NOT TOO GOOD!
But they did manage to come back and kill a lotta children with tanks. Makes ya proud to be a Democrat, doesn’t it ?
Still haven’t seen your DD 214 yet……
Remember Tawana Brawley?
Funny, if Clinton was one of my communist leaders I would imagine he’d still be in power. Maybe I’d be lucky enough to be a commissar making your children good little Stalinists and Trotskites. Then again, I’m not a Democrat.
yes, I remember Waco. I only live 90 miles from the town. I visited the smoldering wreckage, smoking a cigarette.
Everyone knows the Davidians lit that fire themselves and only are poster children for people as crazy as they were. When you have subdivision with normal everyday people not even 50 yards from a doomsday cult armed to the teeth, it’s only a matter of time for the Feds to come knocking. They aren’t exactly a matter for the Homeowners Association.
“I know it’s quite tragic, but I tend to look for the silver lining. At least he can be quite fun to observe as he crusades against logic, decency and common sense. He’s a war horse in his own Quixotic mind.
Peace.
”
PIECE.
The only thing both tragic and comic is your website. Are you uneployed on a welfare (like all liberals) ? that would explain why you spend 24/7 here.
#36 That is, if Chris Matthew’s leg can handle it.
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I’ll send him a ‘sham-wow’ so he can mop up after he tingles on his leg.
The National Identity Sanity Test
Mexico
1. A white woman is nominated to head the Mexican judiciary after she tells Mexican men that white women know better than they do how to run their country.
Japan
2. An American white liberal arrives in Japan and demands to be elected to the most influential postin the country after telling Japanese men that they, their traditional culture and their way of life are bigoted, and must be erased in the name of progress. And that white American liberals know how to run Japan best.
USA
3, After a career of promoting racial quotas, and demonstrating a complete inability to
see anything outside of ideological compartmentalization a latina woman is supported by a black Affirmative Action President and white men are told that not to confirm her is to is to give into racism and bigotry.
151. ehunter:
You’ll never get a job with the Obamamedia with this acute journalism.