VP Debate: Kid Wonk vs. The Gaffemeister
The real secret of the champ’s success is his ability to employ classic misdirection maneuvers to score points. His style, described by one sports writer as “a cross between a chameleon and a rattlesnake,” reflects his shiftiness as well as his ability to land powerful blows on occasion. Kid Wonk takes the champ lightly at his own peril.
And the Kid? No one knows much about him or his ability to perform in the pressure-cooker atmosphere of a nationally televised bout. Plucked from relative obscurity by Vanilla Lightning to be his Number Two, the Kid showed great promise on the Junior Circuit and made several splashy appearances in the lead up to his selection. One memorable event — “The All Star Health Care Hearing and Dog and Pony Show” — saw the Kid take on Chocolate Thunder and lay him low with a series of titanic blows, first to the solar plexus, then battering the heavyweight champ about the head. It was a beat-down that Chocolate Thunder is still trying to live down.
Thus proving he was ready for the Big Show, Kid Wonk was chosen to do battle with Gaffemeister. Will he freeze under the watchful eyes of tens of millions of Americans and a media waiting — wanting — to see him stumble? Can he avoid the mistakes of so many challengers in the past who either got lost on their way to the arena or perhaps should have?
Untested and untried as he is, Kid Wonk has one overarching advantage over the champ: he knows his stuff. Where the champ uses tricks and mud-wrestling tactics to score points, the Kid will employ grips and handholds that have stood the test of time and proven themselves winners when all is said and done. The sport’s First Principles — if defined and demonstrated correctly — will always outpoint the vain attempts to pull the wool over the eyes of the judges by using imported and alien maneuvers that don’t belong in an American arena.
The stakes may not be high, but glory goes to a clear winner who will, if circumstances hold, then be able to claim a belt that no one really wants to wear, and a title no one wants to own.
When you figure out what all the fuss is about, let me know.
Okay, that was funny, but one thing: some guys drink the Warm Bucket of Spit and some don’t. Cheney didn’t, Biden did — Ryan won’t.
Let’s hope that the question of healthcare reform comes up, as it likely will. Ryan will upend Biden. For a doctor’s view of rationing on the horizon if Obama is re-elected see http://clarespark.com/2012/10/10/obamacare-one-last-time-james-pagano-md/. Pagano has written three blogs for me now, all very accessible and describing the healthcare disaster we are facing with a second Obama administration: one that is already in place with the looting of Medicare.
” Raddatz has a connection with Barack Obama going all the way back to their days at Harvard. They worked on the Harvard Law Review together, and Obama attended her 1991 wedding. Fast forward to the present, and President Obama has appointed Raddatz’s husband, Julius Genachowski, to the Federal Communications Commission. Genachowski is also an Obama campaign bundler, meaning that he is a major fundraiser for the president’s re-election effort. ”
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/10/10/is-there-a-fix-in-for-the-vice-presidential-debate/
I worry about this one. Expectations are so low for Biden & off-the-charts for Ryan, it could backfire on us.
You’re concerned that Biden will pull of a won and rescue Obama at the polls.
No, that won’t happen. We don’t elect VP’s.
Obama will fail all by himself, Biden can only add to his hurt.
The election will be a blowout win for Romney.
Tonight’s debate is every bit as important; maybe more so than the remaining two between Romney and Obama.
First, the stakes are the total loss of our country and way of life versus the “start” of a long, arduous recovery.
Second, Romney has already proven to the world that Obama does not stand a chance against him in any sort of one on one venue.
That means that the simple, winner takes all truth of Election 2012 for Obama rests entirely on the shoulders of Biden along with as much help as the liberal media can give him.
Biden is a brutal, gutless, ruthless low-life that has savaged more careers and lives in Washington, DC than anyone that’s alive on the planet today. His sick mind enjoys destroying people.
If I hope anything it is that Paul Ryan has what it takes to put Biden down and out on the canvas quicker than Romney did Obama. From there Ryan needs to forget about his natural compassionate instincts by pounding Biden unmercifully non-stop until the debate is over.
At that time Conservatives, Republicans and Independents need to unleash torrent after torrent after torrent of counter punches against the garbage that is certain to gush out of the DNC and the liberal media.
At any other time in life I could, can and will appreciate a drop or two of humor into the mix Mr. Moran. But right now is not one of those times.
I hope and pray that Paul Ryan not only vanquishes Biden, but does a good enough job of it to turn Biden’s career and life into the political fish bait he deserves.
–”Biden is a brutal, gutless, ruthless low-life that has savaged more careers and lives in Washington, DC than anyone that’s alive on the planet today. His sick mind enjoys destroying people.”–
Absolutely correct! Unfortunately, even many informed people who follow political events on a daily basis haven’t seen the true depth of his nastiness. Don’t underestimate him. It doesn’t take brains to be an over-grown punk and Biden fits it to a T.
It says something worthy of reflection that, when Biden departed the 1988 Democratic presidential nomination contest after his plagiarizing ways were revealed, Dan Rather (!!) defended him staunchly, lamenting his departure from the race and lambasting “the dirty guys that got you.”
Go figure.
WELL SAID ZERO T! Your comment is commanding and eloquent. [And I applaud your note that with the existence of our Republic at stake, Moran's "humor" is misplaced.]
PAUL RYAN DOES NOT STAND ALONE AT THE PODIUM TONIGHT. Let our prayers to Deity summon legions of unseen angels to help him.
Then we continue our labors: We contribute; we make supportive comments on these blogs; we “talk up” R & R with family, friends, co-workers, etc; and THEN WE VOTE BO & JOE OUT OF OFFICE.
Biden has the same kind of Everyman folksiness that Bill Clinton has. Both of them can appeal to blue-collar folks in Middle America despite the weaknesses in their policies or background.
Biden can’t match Ryan’s command of numbers. But Biden may be viewed by ordinary folks as the one they would rather have a beer with at their local tavern. And that observation can be important. It certainly helped Bush.
It is a darn shame, but the outcome will depend largely on the moderators. There is no way the left wing cabal will let Ryan set the direction as did poor old Jim Lehrer. If they talk policy, Ryan mops up the floor with the Gaffemeister. If personal attack and one-liners are the agenda, not so much.
Biden doesn’t do bad in his debates. I hope Ryan is on his game. I hope he is well prepared on Medicare and the disaster of Obamacare. I hope he points out that fewer doctors working fewer hours with more people claiming a right to their time isn’t good health care policy..
“The real secret of the champ’s success is his ability to employ classic misdirection maneuvers to score points. … Kid Wonk takes the champ lightly at his own peril.”
Having watched Biden for the past few centuries pommeling Conservative judges on the judiciary committee, I’m pretty sure I know what to expect.
Whatever Ryan says about responsible spending, Biden will twist into war on women and then throw in something about coat hangers and back allies. And with a willing sidekick in the moderator the debate will devolve into scornful questions about why Ryan hates women and poor people and old people and only thinks rich people should be permitted to breathe.
I pray Ryan is prepared for the near certainty that this will not be so much a debate as an attempted character assassination.
After last week, Biden will think it his duty to demolish Ryan, now more than ever. He will twist every question into social-issue smear.
Ryan must nut underestimate what he will face tonight. I believe there are many excellent ways to deflect the excrement flung at him, but he had better be prepared for what is coming.
At this moment CNN.com has the following headlines related to the election:
CNN exclusive: Ryan’s debate prep as meticulous as he is
[pro-Obama: it is in the interest of each campaign to lower the expectations for their candidate]
Obama on debate: ‘I had a bad night’
[pro-Obama: portrays Obama as a "likable down-to-earth human being willing to admit his mistakes"]
Bennett: Romney is not a liar Amtrak in crosshairs for VP debate
[pretending to be pro-Romney but actually pro-Obama, since it keeps the attention strictly on the charges against Romney]
Romney’s changing talk on abortion
[plainly pro-Obama, suggesting Romney can't be trusted]
Google: ‘Completely wrong’ = Romney
[again plainly pro-Obama]
Opinion: Romney’s 0% black support
[pro-Obama, suggesting it is somehow Romney's fault that the blacks express their racial solidarity by voting for one of their own]
Actress vilified for backing Romney
[neutral, for once!]
Photos: President’s intimate
[pro-Obama -- more from the "likable down-to earth human being" department]
moments Ex-SEAL’s mom: ‘I don’t trust Romney’
[once again plainly pro-Obama]
One guy is gonna lie. One guy is gonna tell the truth.
All the rest is window dressing.
If America can’t get it right after 4 years of this, maybe another 4 will really drive the message home. If ya still have a home by then…
If the debate is focused on accomplishments and presenting a credible plan for the future, Biden stands no chance of winning. The facts are simply not on his side. It will be no surprise if Raddatz tries to throw Biden a life preserver. When the debate begins to devolve into personal invective rather than substance, Ryan must rise above it – in a firm, but statesmanlike manner. He can’t allow the debate to go down a dirt road.
Politics is a contact sport and the stakes are too high to pull any punches. Ryan needs to parry the dirt and allow Biden to make a complete idiot of himself, which Joe, as he has demonstrated over and over again, is perfectly capable of doing.
Have a beer with Biden? I like beer too much to stoop that low.
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While a win for Ryan will gain the ticket little, a loss could be devastating.
It will taint Romney by association, and give the media another “look at the squirrel” moment by which to divert attention from the disaster that is Barack Obama.
Yet, I have a hard time believing that Ryan has much of a chance losing to Joseph Biden — the man is after all, something of a lightweight.
When Ryan makes his opening comments, what would the debate look like afterwards if he were to use the following for his opening.
“Madame Moderator, Mr. Vice-President,
Mr. Vice-President,
We all know your ability to turn a phrase, use a witty reply to deflect giving a direct answer, and break out into a wide smile at opportune times. You use your ability to play a child’s game by literally kicking the can down the road for future generations to pay for programs that do not nor will have funding available due to the dire economic situation this country and the world is facing today.
So, up front, I will concede this part of the debate to you without question. You can have the catchy, witty, and snark retorts that are the substance of your arguments. You can have the honor of “kicking the can” down the road by refusing to acknowledge the problems we have by employing the use of senseless witticisms.
In 20 years or so when the college graduates of today who are facing unemployment figures in the 20% range come upon the can you so willingly kicked down the road, who will provide the answers for their dilemma? Who will they look to in history to find answers?
I guess it will be to you and Mr. Obama who decided at a critical time for America when the financial markets were crashing and unemployment was at an all time high, all they received from you is wit, a smile, and catchy retorts and a healthcare package that did not answer our most pressing and immediate problem. As a result of playing childish games, millions are no longer seeking jobs and have dropped off the rolls of job seekers.
Millions and millions are drawing unemployment and due to your childish game playing, benefits have had to be extended several times until they could no longer be extended. The true unemployment and underemployed numbers are closer to 20% than the 7.8% recently reported. You and Mr. Obama along with Big Bird can have that legacy; the one Mr. Romney and I want is the one that left behind an attempt to find answers that are the tenor of truth for the American people. We offer proposal and solutions with the understanding that they are just that, proposals and solutions to our pressing and urgent problems.
So, if the moderator and audience prefer wit over substance, you win, hands down. If they want the truth about what we are facing and where we are headed, we win, hands down. Which is more important to the family facing financial ruin and hardship, the opportunity for employment and earning a living via the private sector by listening to the cold,hard facts or to charm, wit, and one-upmanship games by a failed administration? The choices are very clear.”
– be professional and cordial. When Biden wags his finger and acts as if he were back on the Judiciary Committee Chair, you know what to do. As for the moderator(s), when thrown a curve, just twist it right back at them. Just engage the audience.
What Ryan needs to do is what he’s been doing since getting to the Senate. He needs to be calm, be collected, be truthful and be respectful. If he give Biden enough rope he’ll hang himself and Radach will hand him the rope.
According to a report in the Daily Rash, during an interview with Gayle King on CBS This Morning Joe Biden said the Department of Homeland Security is crawling with lesbians. http://www.thedailyrash.com/biden-says-department-of-homeland-security-crawling-with-lesbians I do hope this is brought up in the debate tonight!
Just saw on Drudge that these five – WI, MI, NH, PA, OH – are now considered tossups. Ryan has the potential to be a huge asset in at least four of those. No doubt the Obama campaign and the media know it. Ryan needs to go into this knowing that they will come at him with everything they can. I hope he is properly prepared. My prayers are with him.
Ryan should show up to the debate shirtless [imho]. Saggy sack, daffy gaffy ‘Big effin’ deal Biden’ could never compete with that! I’ll volunteer as the chest-oiling girl (as a patriotic duty to my country, of course)! ;p~
Or, Ryan could just aim those dreamy, hypnotic, bright blue, laser-beam eyes directly at the camera and hypnotize everyone no matter what he said.
Wait. Did I type that out loud?
Yeah you did, LOL.
I’m feeling more maternal about Paul Ryan. I know the bullies are coming after him. I know he can take care of himself. But still…
The ugliness of the Left in full-on panic-mode are indeed bullies as their true colors come to full disclosure. Their pettiness, petulance and vileness are being shown the light of day now. Oh dat troof hurts!
Ryan will come to the clown fight armed with a genius brain [trump!]. I have no doubt that he will come fully prepared for anything and everything Biden & Lefturds have in store for him.
The classic drunken Biden vid…Short and sweet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkCZQ
Oh sweet lawd! Bwahahahahahaha!
Great pre-game warm up!
“The stakes may not be high, but glory goes to a clear winner who will, if circumstances hold, then be able to claim a belt that no one really wants to wear, and a title no one wants to own.”
“The most insignificant office devised by man,” or words to that effect, as its first occupant complained: Perhaps it’s a measure of my own eccentricity that I’d accept this position without thinking twice. But I don’t think I’d be crazy enough to conventionally campaign for it; nothing on earth, to me, would be worth such an ordeal.
P.S. Papa Juliet just gave me this response: You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.
The Helsinki I am!
And again–Liar! How dare I try at 17:00 Eastern, right?
Three strikes & you’re out. Trying to post later.