Keeping Weapons Away from Mexican Drug Cartels
Kenneth Melson, acting director of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives, was in San Antonio, Texas, on August 12 for the signing of a new agreement with ranking Mexican counterparts to more effectively interdict gun smugglers moving weapons into the hands of Mexico’s drug cartels. The pact, which is designed to allow for a far greater number of serial number traces of captured weapons long kept off limits in Mexican military vaults, is part of President Barack Obama’s new push to address the problem. Controversy has erupted between Second Amendment rights advocates and gun ban advocates over exactly how many weapons captured in Mexico actually originate from U.S. firearms retailers — and thus whether the Democratic Congress and White House might deem more sales regulation to be necessary.
Earlier this year, the president ordered hundreds of ATF agents and support staff to the border, most of them to Texas, citing tracings of thousands of seized guns in Mexico to American stores. For nearly four months, ATF agents have been projecting an unprecedented show of force among these American dealers. Among their activities, ATF agents have been inspecting retail holders of federal firearms licenses to ensure they are not knowingly selling guns to “straw purchasers,” who turn around and hand them over to cartel operatives, who in turn smuggle them over for use in Mexico’s high body count civil drug war.
In an exclusive interview with me, Melson discussed his agency’s supercharged efforts in Texas, the nation’s top source state for weapons recovered from cartel gunmen and later traced to U.S. firearms dealers. I have written extensively about gun and ammunition smuggling to Mexico. I have also weighed in on the numbers controversy for PJ Media.
To date, nearly 23,000 handguns and assault-style firearms captured from drug trafficking organizations have been traced to licensed retail firearms dealers in Texas and elsewhere. But untold thousands more captured weapons remain untraced and inaccessible in Mexican military vaults, leading to fierce political squabbling over the total numbers. Adding fuel to the fire is the fact that Mexican military officers have refused to provide serial numbers or ATF access to the vaults. But all that is about to change with the pact Melson signed recently in San Antonio alongside Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.
Among the highlights of the interview with Melson is that he believes most of the untraced weapons still in Mexico’s vaults will almost certainly turn out to originate not from foreign countries, as Second Amendment rights advocates insist, but from U.S. gun dealers. He also revealed that gun smugglers are countering Obama’s ATF push along the border by simply moving to stores farther inland.
Also present was J. Dewey Webb, special agent in charge of the bureau’s Houston field division, who occasionally interjected.
TB: It’s my understanding that the Mexican military has been less than competent in helping with traces and also not providing access to military vaults containing seized weapons. What’s yours?
Kenneth Melson: Those issues will be resolved in the next couple of weeks when [Immigration and Customs Enforcement Secretary] John Morton and I, and a couple of other department officials and border patrol individuals, go down to Mexico to meet with the Mexican authorities on those very issues. I expect we’ll have a resolution to the access to those weapons at that time. That’s our hope.
TB: What kind of access are we talking about now?
Kenneth Melson: The access that the ATF is looking for is the ability to work with the Mexican authorities to examine the guns for the appropriate information, to take off the guns for purposes of tracing.
TB: You’d send ATF agents into these vaults?
Kenneth Melson: Yeah. If they invite us in, we’re ready to go to work with them on that. We’re working with them on that. That’s what this letter of intent is for. It is an expression of our intent to work on a set of protocols for sharing of information and sharing of access, both on the U.S. side and on the Mexican side, with respect to this evidence. On the Mexican side, for us to get access to information we can use to provide an intelligence base for us and for the Mexicans. And on the U.S. side, for purposes of making sure the cases we develop can be used in Mexico to help develop their cases against individuals in Mexico, who are not in the U.S.






umm AZ where Napoltano is FROM?
So, the myth that the ‘evil’ gun dealers in the U.S. are somehow exporting thousands of military grade weapons to Mexico is being perpetuated.
http://libertyboy.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/83-of-guns-in-mexico-drug-cartel-hands-are-not-from-the-us/
I welcome the opening of the vaults of seized weapons in Mexico to the ATF inspectors, but I hope they will produce a fair and unbiased assessment of the origin of those weapons.
The truth should be known and I have every confidence it will not lead back to the U.S..
Let’s set things straight right up front.
Yes, some guns are being smuggled into Mexico from the U.S. Most are handguns.
But, handguns are being illegally trafficked from state to state and from the U.S. to Canada.
It should come as no surprise that guns are smuggled into Mexico.
But, the problem being portrayed by the U.S. media and our government is not as it seems.
You see, Mexico doesn’t allow ownership of most firearms, so ordinary Mexican people seeking self-protection will find a way to get them into Mexico.
As for the drug cartels operating in the border towns along the U.S., they have other sources for their weapons and have become the prime supplier within Mexico.
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Reference:
http://www.gunnewsdaily.com/rw807.html
See also:
http://sand.miis.edu/research/documents/gnick-osce.pdf
Excerpt:
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In El Salvador, approximately 20% of the assault rifles turned in voluntarily for consumer goods were clearly marked “Property of United States Government”.
We know that these are not newly introduced weapons as there is evidence that the U.S. government introduced tens of thousands of M-16s and grenade launchers in the 1980′s.
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Yeah, how about that: “Property of United States Government”.
Gee, I wonder where THOSE came from?
I ask THAT question because machine guns of new manufacture have been OUTLAWED for sale in the U.S. to private citizens since 1986.
See:
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/gan/press/2006/11-08-06c.pdf
Excerpt:
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Ms. McLemore noted that while individuals may possess and transfer machine guns lawfully registered prior to May 19, 1986, federal law prohibits the manufacture of new machine guns unless they are intended for distribution to local, state or federal agencies.
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Drug cartels flourish because of a corrupt Mexican Government.
To think that any US law is going to prevent these drug cartels from acquiring weapons on the international black market is delusional.
Besides, the guns in Mexico that came from the US are there because laws have already been broken. It’s hard do see how another law is going to change anything – except for law abiding citizens, that is.
Mr. Bensman’s crusade is naive and misguided.
This is yet another ‘thin end of the wedge’ process for introducing yet another unconstitutional, paramilitary operation into American society.
It works so well in the illegal ‘war on drugs’, doesn’t it? I can’t find pot or coke anywhere…
…wait a minute…
“Duh…. gee, Tennessee, where did all those bad guys in the drug market come from?”
“We made them with Prohibition, Chumley!”
Talking about gun smuggling is a secondary problem caused by the primary problem: prohibition. Its time to give up on this failed policy, which has never worked wherever its been tried. Prisons. Communist Russia. Communist China. All these places have much stronger penalties for drug posession/use than a free citizen faces in the USA and they still have as bad or worse a drug problem.
Prohibition: POLICY FAIL
The BS from this child run administration is never ending. Case and point, many of you have seen the medias coverage showing the weapons seized supposedly from the US. Any half wit could see that fully auto M4′s,M-16′S, and gernade lauchers that were displayed didn’t come from the local gun shop or gun shows. Just another attack on our constitutional rights. Don’t forget to check out HR45 (I believe that’s the correct #)of the new senate bill,VERY SCARY! Fellow citizens,they want our guns,our healthcare,and our freedom.I can’t let this happen,I hope you feel the same way!Oh yeah,trust info from the Mexican government? A Chicago pre-schooler knows better than that!Vote all these brain dead politians out in 2010 and 2012!
The fact is that the number one supplier of arms to the Mexcan drug cartels is the Mexican military. The machine guns, grenade launchers and the like being confiscated are simply not available on the open matket here in the US.
The Mexican government is systematically rubbing out it’s drug market competitors. The Mexican governmrnt is CORRUPT to the core. This is not an effort to eradicate drug trafficking, but rather to eradicate any competition. Obama has found a willing partner in an insidious attempt to curtail 2nd amendment right that Americans enjoy. The ATF is a willing partner in this gambit.
Keeping Weapons Away from Mexican Drug Cartels
Aint’t gonna happen.
Well Todd, just what on earth is an “assault type firearm,”?….Considering that “assault” is a behaviour, not an object, your definition could apply to anything that goes “bang”….To imply that, 1) Mexican politicians/military/police are honest people, fighting those evil firearms coming in from the U.S., and 2) Drug cartels are buying thousands of full auto rifles (the true definition of an assault rifle), hand grenades, RPG`s and hundred`s of thousand`s of rounds of 5.56mm from Texas and other U.S. points, is, at best, a lie….
The best way to keep U.S. guns out of the Mexican drug cartels is to shut down the border and arrest and deport anyone trying to cross in illegally. These cartels couldn’t exist if they didn’t have easy access to the largest drug market in the world. It would also stop the self-induced human suffering in our own country as well. And we shouldn’t change a single damn thing about our 2nd ammendment rights. If anything we should expand them in order to protect ourselves from these Mexican low lifes.
I seriously doubt if all those guns in the Mexican vaults are purchased in the U.S. If they were, the Mexicans would have trumpeted that. As they haven’t, it is unlikely. What is likely is that all those guns are from elsewhere and prove Obama and the ATFE as a bunch of liars and anti-gun zealots.
Blackwater,
Somebody would take over – I think thats the payoff or endgame. In fact, I wouldnt doubt if some of Obama’s old BLACK gangster benefactors from Chicago were orchestrating this fascination with confiscating guns from the Mexicans. Problems associated witht the drug trade are not new, but when it was a white conservative problem, no one gave a spit.
I have a good idea. Make drugs legal. Thats right. You go to the drug store and buy anything you desire, from the stuff sold on the street to that the doctors prescribe. If you want to know how to use it, go to the doctor. Eliminate the DEA and the war on drugs. Now am I a hardcore dope fiend. No I am a doctor with over 30 years in practice and sick of seeing terrorism funded by our governments idiotic policies and the gangs getting rich the same way. Where does the government get the right to tell us what to do with our bodies and prevent easy access to pain and stress relieving meds. Everything from AIDS to high hospital cost to gangs proliferating to terror funding can be traced to the stupid drug policies we have. Will this easy access to drugs make more addicts? No, they get the stuff if they want it. It is only those that uphold the law that don’t receive medications in a timely manner and are denied their freedom of choice and persuit of happiness.
So I can just go to my gun shop and buy those fully automatic assault type weapons there?
I’ve been looking for some so I can be a straw buyer for when them druggies come over the wall.
I can sell them then.
Or maybe I ship them to mejico to the drug guys I know well.
The ignorance they foist on us is boggling.