“If it’s about privacy, why are we required to fund it?”

Medical decisions are always private. Is that news to you?

Also, you aren’t required to fund it – that’s 100% voluntary.

Peace.

DS

Huh? Not really. My wife is who raised the idea of kids at first. (It wasn’t on my list of plans when we got married.) We had two, timed for her convenience and wishes.

Another paragon of creepy observeillance, courtesy of our very own trunk sniper, Malvo.

If you had read what I wrote (instead of responding to the voices in your head), you would know that I don’t believe that it is a choice, at least not in the sense that “I would prefer strawberry, not chocolate.”

75% of the population thinks that a restriction or two *may* be reasonable, and this is a poll taken after frequent wild claims are being made about late term abortions mispresenting the frequency and the reasons AND further wild claims that these are things not regulated or restricted.

By the way, just tell the people the truth that late term abortions are in fact regulated and restricted and THEN take the poll. The numbers will change. You won’t like them. Your side requires lies and obfuscation and misrepresentation to make any headway at all. In the light of day, you lose.

You are the one that claims that abortion on demand enjoys widespread support–when 75% of Americans support restrictions of one sort or another. Exactly which ones enjoy support varies a good bit. But your claim is demonstrably false. There is great discomfort with abortion on demand even from those who call themselves pro-choice.

You claim that pro-lifers lie about this. I have seen some examples. But who has control of effectively all news media in this country? Your side. And you can’t get the abortion on demand percentage above 23%?
The truth must be ugly to you. This is why your side has lost every battle in the culture war. EVERY BATTLE. Your side has never won. Not once.

Currently: six states and counting legalising gay marriage; the numbers are going up. You’re going to lose yet again. Enjoy.

Except that several of those were imposed by the courts–and we’ve had some recent major victories.

Currently: six states and counting legalising gay marriage; the numbers are going up. You’re going to lose yet again. Enjoy.

Are you counting the one that you just lost–the most liberal, pro-gay state in the U.S.?

I’m done arguing with you.

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/06/americas-political-reformation-is.html

If it’s about privacy, why are we required to fund it?

Perhaps you didn’t understand. McCain believed and spoke as he did because some of what appears to be nonsense is the truth: we do affect our planet. (Not enough to dismantle civilisation, but that’s another story.) Unlike the left he advocated building nuke plants (less CO2) which is rational. Energy and properity are interlinked. Nothing and I mean NOTHING correlates to prosperity like energy.

His adding Palin was the worst possible blunder, refocusing the discussion from important and sane stuff (energy and foreign policy) he could win with to sheer irrelevancy (e.g. gay marriage) that is already a lost cause. Yeah it got a few extra votes from that so-called bible thumping “base” but wound up losing the swing vote, which is far bigger than the base wants to even think about.

You get your own; I’m not the one whipping up the troops claiming that homosexuality is a choice, you are. You ought to be able to prove it. I’ve been MORE than kind enough in giving you the name of a source who also cites the figure.

Even though 75% of the population of this country opposes abortion on demand?

Ahhh, you’re resorting to your laughable interpretation of statistics and validity. 75% of the population thinks that a restriction or two *may* be reasonable, and this is a poll taken after frequent wild claims are being made about late term abortions mispresenting the frequency and the reasons AND further wild claims that these are things not regulated or restricted.

This isn’t the same thing as saying 75% oppose abortion. It’s not even close.

By the way, just tell the people the truth that late term abortions are in fact regulated and restricted and THEN take the poll. The numbers will change. You won’t like them. Your side requires lies and obfuscation and misrepresentation to make any headway at all. In the light of day, you lose.

It’s not at all clear that we have lost the culture war, so much as that people like you want us to lose it.

It’s not clear? To all but diehard innumerate culture warriors it is. The original salvos in the culture war were about the pill. Your side lost. The fallback? Roe v Wade seems pretty clear. Schools handing out contraceptives seems pretty clear.

Yours is reminiscent of the claims regarding “abstinence education.” That turned out pretty much as those of us who oppose the culture war nonsense had predicted: it doesn’t work. Wow. Big surprise.

Look, only 40% of Americans support gay marriage…

There are always fluctuations when the culture warriors are raging about their nonsense. Big deal. This is no more significant than your claimed 75% blip. These aren’t meaningful. What has any meaning at all is the trend (linear regressions are your friend.)

Your entire anti-gay marriage screed requires that being gay is a choice, and you do not and will not listen to data suggesting otherwise. The truth must be ugly to you. This is why your side has lost every battle in the culture war. EVERY BATTLE. Your side has never won. Not once.

Currently: six states and counting legalising gay marriage; the numbers are going up. You’re going to lose yet again. Enjoy.

“If I spot you the 7% due to incest, rape, and medical necessity, can we talk about the remaining 93%?”

No. Because this is about privacy and dignity as well.

Peace.

DS