Joking with Morsi
Roberts did ask Morsi what he was doing to protect the religious freedom of Coptic Christians in Egypt, but made it perfectly clear that he was more interested in making friends with Morsi than he was in speaking prophetically about what is happening to Christians in Egypt. “I told him my focus isn’t on Christians in Egypt but connecting people of different faiths for the common good of the city,” Roberts wrote.
Judging from his account of his meeting with Morsi, it appears Roberts tried to glad-hand the Egyptian Islamist as if he were the LBJ of the Arab Spring — just another good ol’ boy from Texas.
And Morsi responded, taking full advantage of Roberts’ fawning attitude, telling him and the rest of the religious leaders in attendance that Egypt is a civil state, (not an Islamic one) and that his government is committed to democracy, civil rights, and the rule of law. He added that things really aren’t so bad for Christians in Egypt and that there was a difference between what was being reported and what was really happening in the country.
This is simply ridiculous.
To be fair, Morsi does not want people who practice their new faith in private to be executed, but if they start to share their faith publicly, well, that’s a danger to society that causes “the law and the shariah to intervene.”
Morsi is pretty circumspect, but if you follow the logic, it’s clear that, in his opinion, Muslim converts to Christianity who share their faith with their countrymen in Egypt risk being put to death. Under these conditions, it should come as no surprise that the Coptic Christians have been charged with blasphemy and that Morsi himself has called on the United States to do essentially the same thing to the Coptic Christian who made the movie Innocence of Muslims.
Morsi’s mendacity is lost on Roberts, who, before his meeting with Morsi, “unequivocally” denounced Innocence of Muslims. And in his denunciation, he tried to show good faith on the part of Muslim leaders by quoting Yusuf Qaradawi’s condemnation of the violence against the American embassy in Cairo on Sept. 11.
There’s just one problem. Qaradawi is a vicious anti-Semite who has called for a second Holocaust to be perpetrated against the Jews by Muslim leaders. He supports female genital mutilation, the fatwa against Salman Rushdie, and wants apostates from Islam killed. He’s supported attacks on U.S. soldiers in Iraq and has endorsed suicide bombings against Israel.
Because of ideas like this, Egypt is well on its way to becoming a totalitarian state with Morsi as its head and with Coptic Christians serving as the collective scapegoat for the frustrations of its Muslim majority.
Most people would regard this as a time for prophetic condemnation and warning.
Not Roberts. He tells us to watch and wait, stating, “Only time will tell what the future holds and what type of leader President Morsi will be.”
Morsi has made it clear through word and deed what type of leader he will be. Roberts just isn’t paying attention.
An awful lot of American Christians are blissfully ignorant of the beleaguered Copts’ plight.
Come to think of it, an awful lot of Americans — Christian and non-Christian — are blissfully ignorant of the Copts’ very existence. And they’re equally ignorant of the existence of other beleaguered indigenous Christian peoples across the Middle East (Syriac Orthodox, Assyrians, Maronites, Melkites, Nestorians, etc.).
Well, either that or they just don’t care.
Hmmmm. Here, let me fix that for you:
There – that’s better.
+++++!
ANYONE, most especially religious leaders, who seeks to ‘dialogue’ Islamists out of jihad are whistling past the west’s graveyard – theirs too.
Their ignorance is frightening, and mendacious too. What they know about the tenets of Islam can barely fill a thimble.
Therefore, as a public service, this blogger offers the following tutelage. The brain dead, multicultural obsessives better get with the program, otherwise the dead of many innocents will be on their hands!
http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/09/13/muslim-blood-lust-boundless-no-excuses-needed-yet-western-third-world-devoteesappeasers-supply-them-addendum-to-islam-and-blood-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/
Religious leaders must lose their mandate to lead, once they demonstrate an appalling lack of ignorance, regarding life and death issues. It is that simple.
Hi Adina, I DO NOT believe these vile religious leaders are ignorant. They are EVIL. Wolves in sheep’s clothing.
We must prevent the terrible agony, kidnappings and enormous suffering of non-Muslims in our countries that take place in Muslim countries! Centuries ago, Egypt was a Christian country that was conquered by Muslims. Egypt stands as a stark warning to the Free World. The video will make you weep.
The Passion of the Copts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FHvQXfGUBCs
Comment by Egyptian Christian Copt underneath video:
“OUR WOMEN ARE TO BE ENSLAVED IN ISLAM OUR MEN ARE TO BE KILLED AND AMERICA RECEIVES MILLIONS OF ISLAMISTS WITH OPEN ARM AND REFUSE TO GIVE US ASYLUM.”
The suffering of non-Muslims in Muslim countries is beyond bearing. God help our brother and sister non-Muslims! This and other terrible horrors will take place in our Western countries if Muslim immigration is not stopped immediately!
Abu Baseer in London: “One of the goals of immigration is the revival of the duty of jihad and enforcement of power over the infidels. Immigration and jihad go together.
PROTECT INNOCENTS! Permanently end ALL Muslim immigration-immigrant conquerors!
The results of massive Muslim immigration in Britain, is a once great nation plunged into terrible darkness; where rabidly pro-Islam, anti-infidel, FREEDOM-HATING ruling elites, police and other agencies bow down low to the dark god of Islam and Britain’s defenseless children are offered up as sacrifices to Islam’s god:
South Yorkshire Police and Rotherham Council Are Complicit in Child-Rape
http://britishfreedom.org/south-yorkshire-police-and-rotherham-council-are-complicit-in-child-rape/
…thousands of predominately Pakistani Muslim gang rapes of white English girls in the Rotherham area…
There are no words to describe the EVIL of British leaders in importing massive numbers of Muslims to prey upon, and physically attack the British and to gang-rape, sexually enslave, and force into prostitution Britain’s defenseless children in OBEDIENCE to Islamic teaching.
In importing massive numbers of the obedient soldiers of the dark god, Allah, UK leaders are fully aware of the suffering they are perpetrating on the British people. God’s future judgments on British and other Western leaders and cruel, filthy Muslim perpetrators will be terrifying. The Bible warns ‘It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the Living God’.
The dirty DECEIVERS and liars who call themselves the “Rotherham Safeguarding Children Board” call yourselves what you really are: The Rotherham Safeguarding Muslim Pedophile Gang Rapists Board.
Guilty police: Call yourselves what you really are: Police Defenders of Muslim Pedophile Gang Rapists of Defenseless British Children.
UK ruling elites: Call yourselves what you really are: Servants of the Dark god, Allah, and Protectors of Muslim Gang Rapists, Murderers and Terrorists.
Hey, look! It’s another religious zealot drunk with power!
British Freedom is Britain’s last great hope! Support/join British Freedom!
http://britishfreedom.org/
NON-MUSLIMS OF THE WORLD MUST UNITE to stop the Islamic conquest of our countries!
The tragic plight of the Copts is no laughing matter. Shame on Roberts.
People like pastor Roberts are enablers. He is willing to sell down the river an entire people, Coptic Christians, in order to satisfy his vanity of being a player with the big guys, in this case the President of Egypt. While he yuks it up with the President of Egypt, individual Egyptian Christians hide in their homes and shake with fear. Disgraceful.
“‘To us a Salafist would be a liberal!’ Morsi loved this. ‘He died laughing and started pointing to someone saying something in Arabic,’ Roberts reported.”
Amazing. If a psychologist wrote a book about this “joke,” I would read it.
We don’t need a psychologist to recognize sniveling.
Christians, by and large, are ignorant about Islam. They do not perceive it as a mortal threat to western civilization. Not knowing the history of Islam for the pat 1,400 years can lead to castatrophic results for America, and in very short order. Christianity should be leading the charge against Islam. Without the platform of freedom in the western world, Christianity will soon be crushed, and this without any warning from the pastorate.
You mean *Western* Christians are ignorant of Islam. Believe me the Copts are familiar enough with Islam. The Copts are are a sect of the Oriental Orthodox Catholic Church along with a few others like the Ethiopian Christians. Politically, they are hanging out in the wind, but then even the persecuted Roman Catholics and protestants in Iraq were ignored when that country was being “rebuilt” under Bush 43. In the coming years, I was recently told by a Copt friend that the Oriental and Eastern Orthodox Churches will soon be coming to a doctrinal accordance, bringing them much closer than they have been in almost a millennia. I hope this strengthened alliance makes them harder to persecute with the ruthless impunity shown by Egyptian Muslims so far.
Roberts’ joke astounds me. Isn’t a Christian, ESPECIALLY one who leads others, supposed to care about the situation of their kinsmen? Roberts’ behavior is disgustingly shallow, self-serving, and thoughtless. This man is not fit to lead or instruct anyone.
PEACEFUL EDL/BF (English Defence League/British Freedom) human rights activists who demonstrate against the treasonous Islamification of Britain and protest against the inhuman Muslim monsters who gang rape, sexually enslave and force into prostitution terrified, defenseless NON-Muslim British children, are viciously persecuted and even beaten by the police. COMING TO A COUNTRY OR CITY NEAR YOU SOON! DON’T LET IT HAPPEN IN AMERICA!
Walthamstow: A Lesson in Powerlessness
http://britishfreedom.org/walthamstow-a-lesson-in-powerlessness/
One of the dirty tactics of UK ruling elites/police on this occasion was to deliberately place into great danger, the EDL/BF human rights activist women who were left by the police in unfamiliar locations in dead of night.
UK ruling elites and police serve only one people in Britain: Muslims.
The treasonous goal: Islamic conquest of Britain by any and all means.
Well, that explains it.
I checked out his blog. Turns out that Bob Boberts is a Rick Warren devotee.
‘Nuff said.
There are Christians in name only, C.R.I.N.O . Roberts and Warren seem that way but there are many like them all to willing to compromise with evil. How about Obama who say’s he’s a Christian but his actions don’t show it. “You know them by their deeds”
Coptic Christians are one of the three great legs of Christianity and were so effective that Satan tried to wipe them out entirely. But like the Jews there is still a remnant left even in the midst of the Muslim hordes and they will not go away. CRINO’s only hurt the Coptic cause by making friends with their enemies.
“Bob Roberts” – my God! There’s even a movie by that name! Bob’s obviously only a self-promoting religions-salesman, not a truly religious man. He seems to be Hell-bent on putting the SHAM back in “shaman.”
Morsi’s only following the clearly-expressed tenets of his book (Sura 4:89 calls on moslems to murder apostates) while good ‘ol bobbity Bob’s IGNORING the tenets of his!
He’s a criminally-negligent traitor! What’s next for him – endorsing ‘Chrislam?’!
;-(
The pastor is a disgrace.
Call me a softie, but I think the US should grant preferred immigration rights to mid-eastern Christians and Jews who face persecution in Muslim nations.
There are 160 Coptic Orthodox churches in the US. The majority if those churches are less than 20 years old. The point is that many do leave. The problem isn’t that they can’t flee Egypt. The problem is that, ethnically, the Copts are of true Egyptian descent, they are not typically Arabs. Most no more want to leave Egypt than you would want to uproot and move to the other side of the world. Of course, some may simply be too poor to emigrate. I think history has shown us that evil proliferates if it is not confronted where it stands. Ethnic cleansing is ethnic cleansing. An accelerated visa channel for persecuted Copts would only encourage increased persecution to hasten Copt departure.
Kinda like the Egyptian Jews who were there even longer, and had to leave with nothing but the clothes on their backs. The Copts were no better than the rest of the Egyptians then. I feel sympathetic to their plight now but perhaps they should look back at recent history and leave while they can still sell their property and make decent arrangements. The pogroms are just the start. Then comes kristallnacht.
Keep spinning your drivel, Herr Spindoktor! Re: “The Copts were no better than the rest of the Egyptians then.” Nice try, but: NO. The Copts are the remnants of those Greeks who arrived with Alexander; history shows he embraced the Egyptian Jews at the time, and confirmed them in many posts in his government.
He did, but modern Copts participated right along with the Islamists in Egypt in persecution of the Jews. Pastor Roberts should be ashamed. The Islamists recognize his ignorance and naivete. The foxes are cackling right before swallowing the chickens-this means you pastor Roberts.