John McCain Has a Lot To Answer For on Libya
Senator John McCain’s description of the Libyan rebels as his “heroes” has raised numerous eyebrows. PJM editor David Steinberg has had the excellent idea of seeking comment from the senator’s office on the extensive video evidence of atrocities committed by some of the senator’s newfound “heroes.”
While one is at it, the senator should probably also be reminded about this: namely, his cordial handshake with Muammar al-Gaddafi in Tripoli in August 2009.
There is more here, including McCain’s allusion to the “spirit of mutual respect and friendship” that prevailed during his meeting with Gaddafi and other members of the Libyan leadership. In preparation for his 2009 visit to Tripoli, the senator received a U.S. State Department “scene setter.” The leaked briefing has been published by the Daily Telegraph. In it, the State Department identifies the Libyan government as “a critical ally in U.S. counterterrorism efforts” and notes, furthermore, that Libya “is considered one of our primary partners in combating the flow of foreign fighters.”
By the “flow of foreign fighters” is presumably meant the flow of foreign recruits to join al-Qaeda in Iraq. The senator’s new-found “heroes” will not have been particularly good allies or reliable partners in this respect. On the contrary, as I have discussed here, the eastern Libyan heartland of the rebellion was in per capita terms by far the largest supplier of foreign fighters to al-Qaeda in Iraq. One rebel military commander, Abdul Hakim al-Hasadi, has even admitted to having served as a recruiter of such fighters. Before that, al-Hasadi fought against American and coalition forces in Afghanistan. (See my PJM report here.)
On his own account at a press conference following his 2009 meeting with the Libyan leadership, one of the main topics of discussion was the sale to Libya of “non-lethal defense equipment” — whatever that is supposed to mean. The State Department “scene setter” speaks rather of the ordinary lethal variety. But the Senator did at least mention American concerns about the “status of human rights” in Libya. According to an AP report at the time, one particular area of American concern was the treatment of “ethnic minorities.”
Apropos this issue, once the senator has viewed the video clips of black Africans being lynched, beheaded, and otherwise abused by his “heroes,” he might want to tell the American public what kind of future he foresees for black Africans living in a Libya ruled by them. The five videos I presented in my PJM report on rebel atrocities only represent a fraction of the available evidence. I would be happy to provide the senator’s office additional examples.
It should be noted that to the degree that the black African victims of rebel atrocities are even acknowledged, they are typically described as “African mercenaries.” This is in keeping with rebel authorities’ own account of the conflict and the designation frequently serves as a sort of rationalization of the mistreatment that black Africans have suffered at the rebels’ hands.
But prior to the outbreak of the rebellion, an estimated two million immigrants from sub-Saharan African countries already lived and worked in Libya. As Chadian President Idriss Déby has pointed out, it is entirely possible that some of these immigrants ended up joining the regular Libyan army. As noted in my report, one of the victims of some of the most horrific abuse documented in the videos appears in fact to have been a Libyan citizen and a member of the regular army.
The rebels, in any case, make no secret of their disdain for Muammar al-Gaddafi’s well-known pan-Africanism and they have evident trouble hiding their racism toward black Africans in general. For example, one post on the “pro-revolution” website Feb17.info helpfully offers a selection of translated slogans to be chanted at solidarity protests around the world. The slogans include “oh Gaddafi king of the afro, you will now see the [real] Libyans” and “oh Living, oh Sustainer, the afro will die today.” (See the Google cache here.)
Perhaps the senator could also provide comment on these slogans.
Just another crappy clueless politician, par for the course.
The sad fact is that most politicians in the West (and I include my own country) as well as journalists, academics, assorted ”experts” are a pretty worthless bunch. We are governed by fools.
I forgot who said it, but the truth is that you could pick names at random from the phone book & get a better result than what we have now.
I agree – a politician being a politician and clueless to boot. His generation of politicians have turned America into one giant disaster instead of standing up for the values they grew up with and the tradition continues.
Jim Crow aside, was the year 1960 really so bad? Why have we strayed so far? They didn’t black folks beating down female impersonators trying to use a woman’s bathroom or people suing a company for failing to properly hold scalding coffee in a flimsy cup between their bare legs.
Jim Crow is a big aside! Most white people don’t and can’t know the depth of its depravity. Born and raised in Chicago, I was blissfully unaware of just how vile Jim Crow was. I started High School in 1960. You might find, Slavery by Another Name, by Douglas A. Blackmon, enlightening. I don’t know how I would react upon discovering there was a man in the restroom at the same time as my teen aged daughter or my wife.
Look up the incarceration rates for black Americans then and now; they are worlds apart. So take ’65 instead – no Jim Crow, at least legally. Crime rates for the entire nation are far above what they were then.
You wanna talk vile. You can’t even keep track of the horrendous murders in America. The casualty rates here are far worse than what was happening in Libya before we got involved.
There are words and there are words. The uprising and slaughter are right here and this culture being engulfed from the tropics. No one cares outside of America – they just say we’re depraved. Half of us don’t care – they say we’re racists for not wanting immigrants in their millions. Screw the rest of the world – we got a war right here were losing with a very high casualty rate and level of subversion.
it is all a direct result of the “no fault blame society” that the indoctrination system that people call education.
want poor people ….try to reduce poverty.
want stupid people ….send them to public school. still not stupid enough ..send them to an Ivy League school.
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Whoa! whoa! whoa!, buckeroo. Jim Crow? McD racist beatdowns? Get a grip. This is just McCain being McCain. He is a true American hero, every true patriot agrees, but he has a daft streak a mile wide. I just hope he retires after this term and takes up full-time gardening. His political usefulness as a Republican, at least, has expired. He’s just too, uh, eccentric, to be taken seriously. It’s sad, but I just can’t make out his basic values anymore. He’s living in his own little world now. Too bad the people of Arizona could not see this some months back. But they fell for the TV ads. Ah well. What matters now is 2012: getting Obama & his Marxist followers the hell out of positions of authority.
McCain may have been a POw, but he’s no friend to American Democracy..
He’s lost contact with what American’s want\ Yes, he WAS a hero who has fallen to the low depths of a Jimmy Carter.
We cannot be guided by a man who WAS a hero and now a pathetic ghost who has lost track of what he is spposed to be doing. He was down in the polls in AZ and changed his tune to agree with the polls….the dips elected him again..are they just stupid or what???? money sure does talk..
I think McCain planned to lose the election to Obama. He did not once fight back. I think he was surprised by the public super positive public reaction to Palin and didn’t know how to react….so they tried to humiliate her. He did not plan to win. Sounds like a conspiracy to bring America to her knees I suppose..
ARIZONA!!! QUIT SENDING THIS MAN TO WASHINGTON…
Arizona quit sending this man to Washington! He makes you all look like a bunch of idiots. Or his voting base is absolutely clueless. Or he has more money than anybody. Or Arizon has nothing else to offer. Or he is hanging on to be the casting vote for blanket amnesty. Pick one.
A hero? By what standard?
He cooperated with the enemy and gave them militarily significant information in order to get better treatment.
Was he mistreated? Yes. Others were, and kept silent.
Was he tortured? Yes. Others were, and kept silent.
Was needed medical treatment withheld from him? Yes. Others suffered the same, and kept silent.
Low-ranking POWs who cooperated with the enemy to a much lesser degree than John McCain were court-martialed and given dishonorable discharges, and rightly so.
But then, they didn’t have a Daddy who was an Admiral.
Yes, he DID refuse early release, and that was commendable. That doesn’t make him a hero.
Then, once back on U.S. soil, he consistently used his position in the Senate to block meaningful inquiry into our MIAs. His treatment of the families of MIAs was DISGRACEFUL, and his warm embrace of visiting high-ranking VCa was despicable.
A hero?
Not in this patriot’s world.
Everyone that thinks McCain is some kind of hero should check his background. If he had not come from a family of admirals he would not have made it through Round One. Dump John McCain.
“I forgot who said it, but the truth is that you could pick names at random from the phone book & get a better result than what we have now.”
William F. Buckley, Jr., who said he’d “rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University. ”
Prescient, eh?
Missing William F. Buckly Jr. right now. We are living in a time where we could use some strong language. RIP William, you are missed.
I have often suggested SAT type testing of those wishing to represent the citizen, but sadly nothing has come of it.
Obviously those designing the test cannot be from academia.
Unfortunately the average voter leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to discernment in politics and only seems capable of participating in reality shows.
It is being reported widely in the non-pinko press that some 40+ percent of the American electorate pays no taxes at all and receives some sort of tax-payer hand-out on a regular basis.
So, yeah, getting our elected representatives to uphold traditional American values has reached a tipping point.
Maybe we will climb out of this free fall; maybe we won’t. I’m an optimist at heart, and I think we can still turn it around, but I wouldn’t make any promises to people I care about. A lot of it will depend on how true to their slovenliness the “victims” of American exceptionalism will prove to be in the next big election. And, frankly, I’m expecting that they will not fail us. Serious, self-reliant Americans will widely out-mobilze the forces of decadence in 2012. I can’t substantiate this in logical, rational terms (which would be lost on half the country regardless), but I just have this nagging hope that won’t go away.
Those are confusing statistics based on oversimplifications. That 40% getting a government check includes social security recipients who did pay into the system and some of whom still do pay federal income taxes. It also includes most of those over 65 who are forced to use Medicare as their primary medical insurer. Any medical activity for which they are entitled to get reimbursement falls into that government payout category. The public would be better served if this material were more carefully analyzed before being presented.
No, the 40+ percent figure does NOT include Social Security and Medicare payments (which are, indeed, earned benefits (although the FICA tax monies that those benefits are based on has long been spent). Rather, the figure includes Medicaid, unemployment compensation, unearned tax credits, and a plethora of welfare programs that were supposed to have been seriously scaled back during Clinton’s second term (thanks entirely to GOP control of the Congress in those years), but that under Bush, and especially Obama, have come back with a vengence.
Terry, so right.
McCain has always received a pass due to his POW status, as if being held hostage somehow makes one ‘enlightened’. Surely he contributed bravely during his Army service, but that was DECADES ago.
As a politician he has been mediocre at best, often making a mess of issues.Having him on the ticket GAVE Obama the Presidency, he was THAT bad a candidate.
In many ways he reminds me of our demented DM.As a soldier Barak was heroic, at least as far as we are told.HOWEVER, once he entered the realm of politics he has been an UNMITIGATED disaster. causing the nation grave harm.
In effect, a good soldier does NOT translate into a capable national leader!!
Although America honors John McCain for his time spent as a POW in Vietnam, his own honor is somewhat dubious. He took an oath to uphold the Constitution and then wrote a law, the McCain-Feingold-Bush law, that clearly violated the 1st Amendment and made it easier for the political class to rig elections. Thank you Arizona for giving us six more years of him, insult to the injury that is Obama.
Gadhafi is such a Saint !
The choices are; The Devil we know or The Devil we don’t! No saints have applied. Many of remember what came after the down fall of the Shah of Iran! If you don’t look it up.
…well I hope you like your results.
I think it was a big mistake for the west to get into the mess called Libya.
BB got it right …the muslims are turning France into a sh!thole.
Sadly, Mr McCain besmirches his own record of service to USA. His mindless support for all military misadventures and gross political opportunism(ie “amnestey” for illegals) put me in mind of Lindsey Grahamnestey, SC.
It’s sad but I think McCain has come to the end of the road. He has got to be senile. Heroes? A primary partner? Yep! He’s lost it. This was a leading country sending fighters to Iraq. Just what is he thinking about. Proof positive that they don’t get out of Washington enough. Politicians don’t have a clue what Americans care about much less what’s happening thousands of miles from here. File this under “DUH….”
“Politicians don’t have a clue as to what Americans care about.”
No, they don’t give a rat”s ass about what we care about or want. The latest example is the Republican Party using redistricting to eliminate Tea Party seats in favor of establishment Republicans. The GOP is part of the problem, not part of the answer.
Hey, McCain was beaten about the head and shoulders for six years on our behalf, at least he has an excuse.
Yes he has a excuse, and he plays it well…BUT ARIZONA DOESN’T HAVE AN EXCUSE FOR ELECTING HIM!!!
Would they elect Hitler to the presidency because he had a difficult childhood> wait, …AZ..yeah they would. America shold not
Also, I think McCain “NEVER” intended to win the presidential election.
He not once fought back..he’s a wienie.
McCain with his boots on the ground in Liby means we WILL be sending our boots over there very soon. Count on it. More bloodshed for Obama’s cause. He is out to break us economically and morally.
I look for something big to happen between now ad 2012 election to cause postponing election or some type of fraud in the whole election process to get Obama back in office.
McCain ..a war hero yes, a good American…I have my doubts.
I don’t think he understands how “average” Americans think or feel. Haven’t heard much from his flaky daughter lately..thank goodness.
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Trust me, no conservatives in AZ wanted him elected! I voted for the Independent and supported his lesser known Tea Party opponent, still could not get rid of him! JD Hayworth was the only one who looked like he had a chance to win the primary, but facing McCains 20 million campaign spending and that infomercial that Hayworth did on how to get government money, that was over!
To me this says AZ people have no morals nor ethics…
There is somethng not quite right with John. When he lost to W during the New Hampshire primary he remarked it was ‘like taking one in the gut’. And then there s ‘bomb, bomb, bomb Iran’. Something is wrong. HNe is a very bitter, angry man. The wounds have not healed.
I always thought his run for the presidency was based on his fury at losing out to Bush the first time. As the present incumbent shows, those who would be president have to want the job.
http://t.co/1S5ytNvModerate Libyan Sufis insist they’re not al-Qaeda- Gadhafi sees them as ‘a threat to his power’
We perfectly understand that it was your country – along with Cameron – which initiated the Libya adventure therefore you will stand with France out of patriotic solidarity.
We’d appreciate however your elucidation as to Why now want you and the Brits Qaddafi’s head?
The Brits had no problem with releasing the Lockerbie bomber and when Qaddafi paid compensation to the survivors he was back to the good graces of the West. The French didn’t say a bad word either.
Then all of a sudden the NATO ganged up on Libya under fake humanitarian pretext.
Do you have eyes?
The world press is awash in a sea of pictures showing well armed rebels (poor civilians?) proudly firing rocket launchers.
So what provoked the true ire of the EU? – please don’t pontificate humanitarian pep talk for there are many intelligent people on this forum who would feel offended by that…
Europe is very dependent on Libyan oil. That simple. (Yet again you witness the true nature of the Western socialist. With this blood for oil war, it is silent. Why? For the moment is doesn’t see how opposition to the policy can be used to further their domestic political agenda. The opposition to Iraq, like Vietnam, had NOTHING to do with any concern for Iraqi’s or Vietnamese.)
The previous British (Blair-Brown – New Labour) did very little to prevent the Scottish Government (not British) from releasing the Lockerbie bomber, legally there was very little the British Government could have done to prevent his release. However our present PM all in favour of democracy and liberal interventionism was massively against releasing al-megrahi and demanded at the time that the UK national government did anything in it’s power to prevent his release. You seem to have missed there has been a change in the political masters at Westminster since al-megrahi was released.
You know I’m still puzzled as to why we’re involved in Libya…
Obama and Friends (along with many EU/NATO nations like France & Germany) criticized Bush for years over invading Iraq and overthrowing a murderous and brutal dictator. Suddenly they are doing the same thing and its ok. The big difference? Bush got the approval of Congress, Obama didn’t.
The Dems criticized Bush for getting us into two wars and all the “blood & treasure” we spent on those wars. I guess Obama felt “the third times the charm” and that an already in debt America could afford one more. The farce that “this is a NATO operation” is a mere smoke screen, America is providing the lion’s share of the funding and military might in Obama’s African Adventure. The EU doesn’t have the military capability because they have already depleated their national defense for social programs. When this SNAFU hit the “boots on the ground” stage it’ll be America providing the troops for that too.
I need to visit Viggo Mortensen and take his “No Blood for Oil” t-shirts and go protect in front of the White House. He and the other lefties aren’t using them.
Just to point out – France, Qatar, and Italy were the first three nations to recognize the rebels. The U. S. has not done so.
becuz that would definitly engage them !
Dispatch from Libya: the courage of ordinary people standing up to Gaddafi http://t.co/DGagu7t
I’m sure The Devils we don’t know really appreciate your support!
so your banksters !
Is McCain suffering from Stockholm Syndrome? Or just plain old McCain Syndrome?
It’s really hard to believe the U.S. dodged a bullet when this ignoramus was passed over for president.
How can someone this stupid, still be an operative in the U.S. Congress? (Actually, I know; The Democrat/Socialist Party and media love this dope).
I’ve seen totally disabled Vets, that get around in a wheel chair by blowing in a straw, with more common sense, and intelligence than this pathetic dufus.
Either give McCain a job he can handle, like janitor, or get him the hell out of Congress before he does some serious damage.
“It’s really hard to believe the U.S. dodged a bullet when this ignoramus was passed over for president.”
I’ve felt this way all along – and this latest display of stupidity by McCain reinforces that feeling. I could not bring myself to vote for McCain – and of course wouldn’t dream of voting for someone like Obama – convincing myself it would be in the better interests of the USA to experience 4 years of total incompetence than 4 years of random incompetence. Sometimes an alcoholic has to hit bottom HARD – and like an alcoholic America needed this current idiot in chief to drag us to the bottom.
With Obama we get a steep ride to the bottom – with McCain it would have been like a kiddie roller coaster – no big ups or downs – just a general sinking feeling and would have set us up for some other liberal/progressive/commie in 2012. This is a short quick 4 year plunge – McCain would have been a slow torturous 4 year woop-dee-do followed by a steep plunge.
I stand by that.
Anyone besides me see a lot of similarity between John McCain and Jimmy Carter?
I see Carter and Obama as twins under the skin. McCain, on the other hand, needs to hang up his spurs. He has lost his bearings and sadly is adrift.
He has the same bearings he always had. Easier to see things from a distance I guess. Arizona has given us Bruce Babbitt, John McCain, Janet Napolitano. But there’s no need to give Arizona back to Mexico, the current [federal] administration is doing a great job of that already.
MEA CULPA! My Apache friend tells me it was never Mexico’s to begin with! I stand corrected.
I was totally shocked by McCain’s remarks about his “heroes”. We have people in the Senate who don’t seem to have a clue, and we are ruled by an incompetent who appears to care more about getting reelected than saving his country from bankruptcy and to top it off, we have a media who gives all the far-left nuts a pass. When history is written, the media will be revealed in all its garbage. But, on the bright side, there is no one who can shut the Tea Party up, no matter what, and the reason for that is it is Us, the American people saying we are fed up!!
You see, this is the problem, McCain is only representative of the larger problem here. The U.S. will use whom ever it feels like it must to get what it needs and as the redistribution of wealth policy (which has been a long term policy) fits the agenda, playing both sides of the fence at once allows much more flexibility.
The U.S. backed Marcos, Noriega, Hussein and even Osama Bin Laden at one time. All for our own special interests. We have created many of the worlds monsters for our own needs. McCain is a product of that era. That philosophy is poison for relationships over time.
Let’s face it, McCain would of done the same thing Obama has done now, by going to war with Gaddafi.. The difference is the Liberal base bought what the democrats had to sell too them concerning President Bush, with Obama capitalizing on it by saying,” he was an anti war President…. This war is all about establishing a New World Government…. Oh by the way McCain wants it too..
We are headed in the direction of a complete Government take over here, some time in the near future… All in the name of National security sake…. That will be their slogan to get people to jump on board with them, after a Republican President doesn’t do anything for the economy…. Then once more the tide will come in with a whole new slew of Democrats at the helm, telling the American people how to live their lives again…
McCain is a “progressive” hiding out in the Republican Party. Juan is now in Libya telling the U.S. that we need to do more the help the rebels.
Now, consider that the Bamster has never clearly expained why the U.S. needs to be there, what our strategic interests are, or who the rebels are. And Juan McCain is telling us to send more resources to a group of people who they refuse to name.
And, just where is the Danged Fence that Juan McCain championed in his reelection campaign. Did he even try to get money in the budget to build it? I think not. He ran the old bait and switch; albeit with a boatload of money.
Just remember Arizonians, as your gas prices skyrocket, Juan McCain was the vote that kept us from drilling in ANWR while Bush was president. So I have to ask, has Juan taken money from the New World Order types?
Juan doesn’t need the money …he is just another stupid socialist. he thinks he knows better then you. he would have been jimminy carter II if he beat the clown barry or barrak or what ever it calls itself.
Forget what he said about the rebels. What the hell was he thinking going there in the first place!!!
When McCain advocated going in, it was a good idea. Even high level diplomats were abandoning Gaddhafi, and there was a good chance the military would have followed suit with a good show of intent by the West. But Obama dawdled for a month and G-man became seriously entrenched. This mess is not Mac’s fault, but due to Obama’s weak and incoherent leadership.
there are NO heroes in the Libya fiasco.
the support for an unknown group is scary …like electing an unvetted president. just plain stupid. STUPID.
did people see those videos …greusome and did you hear how so few women are on the boats of escaping refugees? they were thrown overboard …no doubt gang raped first.
both sides of this debacle are brutal people and they should be allowed to kill each other without outside help. (I do feel for the many inside Libya who truly just want to raise their families in peace)
We have involved ourselves in a civil war between two groups of thugs.
Good going 0.
McCain is just plain wrong. There is no reason why we should be helping either side in this mess. There is absolutely no proof that these “rebels” are any better than the people they are trying to overthrow. We also seem to have an uncanny knack for picking the losing side in civil wars (such as in Vietnam and Somalia). Wasn’t Obama the one in 2008 who said that going into Iraq was wrong because it took our attantion away from the real war that was being fought in Afghanistan? Where DID the guy who said that go? Oh, that’s right, to the White House. I know that politicians lie, but this guy can’t even do it right. He really needs to be voted out in 2012.
Remember, McCain got into the Academy because his father was a high ranking admiral, he graduated at the bottom of his class, He’s been in the Senate for years, showed his ignorance and disinterest in economics in his embarrassing debate with Obama, was a lousy, multi-crash pilot, and lived, as he still does, off his war record. In a word, he’s a jerk.
Hey johnt how about you making a run for elective office? Couldn’t do worse could you?
Robert, donations accepted, $500 minimum. How would you like to be Under-Secretary for Urban Affairs?
probably not McCain is pretty left of centre.
I agree that that McCain has a screw loose somewhere. Look, I voted for this guy, but I just can’t make any sense out of many of his positions these days, and especially of his support for these “rebels,” In fact, I don’t understand why we are involved in Libya at all, or the calls from the MSM, no less, for us to now get involved in Syria. Unless, of course, getting us involved simultaneously in several various “quagmires” in the Muslim world contributes to Obama’s apparent plan to weaken, further endanger, and to take the United States “down a peg or two.”
As between helping we unbelievers around the world in what–from the evidence– Muslims see as a “free fire zone,” that they call our “House of War,” and helping the Muslims of the the “House of Islam” who are trying to dominate, conquer, and then absorb our House of War, I vote for helping ourselves, for helping fellow unbelievers to survive the Muslim’s onslaught.
As of this morning (and this tally will continue to increase throughout the day, and each and every day it mounts higher) there have been an estimated 17,105 violent Muslim terrorist attacks since 9/11(see http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/)in virtually every country in the world, against various “unbelievers”–Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Animists, etc., Muslim terrorist attacks that never get anywhere near the press that these incidents in the Muslim world are getting. Thus, the Catholic priest who is killed and whose throat is slashed in Italy, the Christians who are tortured and eviscerated in Turkey, the Christians who are burned alive in their church in Kenya, the Christian or Buddhist school children who are beheaded in Malaysia or Indonesia,the Jewish family who are slaughtered in their sleep in Israel, or the unbelievers who are beaten, tortured, raped, beheaded, or blown up by Muslims on virtually every single day of the year somewhere in the world, none of these daily events in the Muslim’s Jihad against all unbelievers is big news, like “the humanitarian crisis” in Libya is today. It is these fellow unbelievers who we should be concerned about and who we should be protecting and helping, not Muslims who attack them.
All of these Muslim states are our enemies–i.e. in the charming words of Sura 9, the Qur’an’s Verse of the Sword, “..kill the unbelievers wherever you find them–ambush and waylay them–and employ every stratagem of war against them,” and in the charming advice from the Hadiths on how Muslims should behave toward unbelievers in unbeliever’s societies, “We smile in some peoples faces, but in our hearts we curse them.”
We should not expend one American life or one American dollar to straighten out the results of Muslim’s violence, tyranny, and chaos in the Muslim world. We should abandon any hopeless schemes to “plant democracy” in the Umma, and should ask ourselves–after remembering how the “free and democratic vote” by Muslims in Gaza bought Hamas to power there–just exactly what “democracy” in a Muslim country dominated by Islam would consist of, and if such “democracy” would stop Muslims from trying to dominate, conquer, and kill us unbelievers.
We should not be helping Muslims in any way, but be trying to at least contain them, and to “let them stew in their own juice,” be trying to force them to use their immense wealth, to attend to their own problems, and to be very forcefully discouraging them from attacks against unbelievers in the Umma or in the House of War.
Thank you! Thank you! I could not have said it better!!
Excellent post!
Why? Were you completely unaware of his track record?
Well let’s see. What were the choices?
The first choice was a mature Senator who had long track record of public service—many year’s experience in Congress, who appeared to be a Conservative, whose proposals sounded somewhat realistic, and who had an honorable military career which included several years as a POW in Vietnam, during which time he more than paid his dues by enduring torture, survived, and continued his public service. A candidate who had the very exciting and strongly conservative Sarah Palin as his running mate.
And the alternative?
A candidate Obama who was an obvious flim flam man of no obvious experience or credentials, a man who had no birth certificate to show and no back trail—it had all been obliterated, or falsified, or locked away–a man who spent 20 years in the pews, listening to the anti-white, Anti-American, anti-Semitic, Black Liberation Theology/Marxist ravings of his pastor of 20 years, the ex-Muslim, the Rev. Jeremiah “God Damn America” Wright who–until his sermons appeared on the Internet and became known–Obama called his” close personal friend,” his “mentor,” and his “political and spiritual advisor,” A candidate Obama who—when the sermons leaked out–said with a straight face that in all those 20 years of what Obama admitted was regular attendance Obama had never heard any of it, and that “he could no more disown the Rev. Wright than he could disown his own blackness,” a candidate Obama who then, a few weeks later, dumped his “close personal friend,” “mentor,” “spiritual and political advisor” of 20 years. A candidate who traded on his blackness and on white guilt, and whose vapid campaign slogans were the meaningless “Hope” and “Change,” that seemingly had no price tag attached, and the idiotic “we are the people we have been waiting for”—Orwell would have been proud.
A candidate Obama whose long-term and close friends included unrepentant urban terrorist Bill Ayers and his even more bloodthirsty unrepentant terrorist wife Bernadine Dohrn—both suspects in the still open case of the bombing death of a New York City policeman. Ties with Ayers so close that it was in Ayer’s dining room that Obama launched his political career in Chicago, so close that the Obama and Ayers families reportedly babysat for each other, ties so close that Ayers–with the help of Obama’s future wife, lawyer Michelle—picked Obama to be the Executive Director of the failed $100 million (some say they actually spent and totally wasted $200 million) Annenberg Challenge of Chicago, in which Obama and Ayers worked closely together for four years, yet, Obama said that he hardly knew Ayers, that Ayers was “just a guy that lived in my neighborhood.” There was Saul Alinsky and “Rules for Radicals,” and Obama’s “community organizing” that produced no visible results for the inner city blacks he was supposed to be” empowering.” Then, there was Obama’s good friend, Palestinian, and supposed “ex PLO Operative,” Rashid Khalidi, whose going away party—chocked full of the Muslim elite of Chicago and elsewhere–was the occasion of a going away speech by Obama that, mysteriously, has never been released by the LA Times that taped it.
And these were just some of the troubling things one could learn on the Internet before the Election, and did not include things like the identity and unsavory political and sexual predilections of Frank Marshal Davis, the hard-drinking, dope smoking Communist Party member and hard core pornographer who was Obama’s cherished “mentor” from ages 12 or so through 17, etc. etc.
Moreover, there was also the thoroughly uninspiring so called “experience,” “credentials,” and “expertise” of our own “Miles Gloriosus,” idiotic, motor-mouthed, bumbling Joe Biden as Obama’s VP.
So, gee, it was a really hard choice but, I finally pulled the lever for McCain and Palin.
McCain is addicted to publicity. Sadly, he will fly to be infront of any camera
At anytime, on any crisis, to say anything that
Will get him attention so he can be relevant to
Anyone who will listen.
If he would have been a true representative
Of the American people, he could have been president
Years ago. Go Away Quickly, and Be Quiet John.
McCain apparently never recovered from the treatment he received at the hands of the North Vietnamese. His political positions have been irrational in many instances.
I strongly suspect that McVain was turned by the North Vietnamese while he was a POW, with that kind of “care” it wouldn’t be a surprise. I have also heard (but NOT been able to verify) that he made more propaganda films for the them than Hanoi jane did.
None the less, he should have never been allowed into any political office. As he certainly appears to have been carrying socialist water ever since he was released.
I held my nose and my lunch and voted for him, but it was pure desperation and, sadly, to no avail.
The GOP is dead and stinking in the sun. After reading Palin’s first book I am also convinced that Steele(sp) threw the election for his “Bro”.
Only hope I see is Palin and she has been so attacked and vilified by everyone who is totally terrified of her that I fear she has no chance.
As for the muzzies, we need a whole lot more of us to understand just what their goals and methods are in one hell of a hurry.
I think we are going to have to hit rock bottom and dig for a while before anything improves.
Nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the GOP offerings inspires me at all.
I am sure that 0 would institute another stimulus program if he could – but not “shovel-ready” projects. Just shovels.
As much as I think Obama is a nightmare of a President and I can’t wait for him to leave office (preferably in January 2013), I think this provides more evidence that McCain wasn’t fit for the office, either. In some ways, I think this shows that conservatives may have dodged a bullet (or perhaps a bomb) when McCain lost to Obama. Had McCain won, we’d have had four years of this sort of idiocy, and then we’d likely have been doomed to eight years of Obama afterward. At least this way, there’s no McCain for the voting public to react against, and at least now many voters are able to see Obama for the collectivist that he is, and (I hope) come to their senses enough to vote him out of office in 2012.
You may be right. An traitor is usually more dangerous than an obvious enemy.
McCain scares me with these remarks. To say that they are not Al Queda is crazy. We need term limits and mandatory retirement from our senators and reps. Some times age does not make you wiser.
Obama should have worn the pants in the run up to this “war” because clearly Hillary and those other women wanted this, we do not belong in a civil war in Libya. We can’t fight in every middle east country that has uprisings.
“Two million immigrants from sub-Saharan African countries”. McCain just can’t give up on his support for amnesty.
It is well-known that Al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood are the most powerful force within the Libyan rebels. The U.S. government is eager to support them.
Just days ago, the UK Daily Mail described America’s extremely dire financial situation as a “financial Chernobyl”. The Obama administration is going out of their way to support the most radical Islamic elements in Libya and other countries. G-D, help and protect all innocents.
washingtontimes: Libya rebels will receive $25M from U.S.
Dismissing concerns over possible links between Libyan rebels and al Qaeda, the Obama administration has notified Congress it is providing $25 million in nonlethal aid to the rebels’ effort to drive Col. Moammar Gadhafi’s regime from power.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/19/libya-rebels-will-receive-25-million-from-us/
Racism, contempt and violent hate for blacks has to stop. The U.S. administration, France and the UN have blood on their hands. With very strong U.S. backing, French military and UN troops went to war against black Christian innocents in order to conquer the Ivory Coast for Islam. Another huge victory for global jihad.
frontpagemag.com
A Plea for the Cote D’Ivoire:
Faith J. H. McDonnell on Apr 15th, 2011
Senator Jim Inhofe warned the UN and the State Department “that they would have blood on their hands.”
Ouattara’s troops were using machetes. “They were slitting people’s throats, anyone — men, women, children…
Ouattara’s men circle Simone Gbagbo. Inhofe said that the thugs had pulled out her hair by the roots and then went to the streets, displaying her hair to mobs of cheering Ouattara supporters. Again Inhofe repeated his warning to other Sub-Saharan African leaders, saying, “This could happen to you. This could happen to your wife.”
http://frontpagemag.com/2011/04/15/a-cri-de-coeur-for-the-cote-d%E2%80%99ivoire/
UN Peacekeepers? Give them their proper name: UN Soldiers for Global Islamic Conquest.
Ruthless and cruel French military handed over Christian President Gbagbo, his wife and son to their enemies in order for this family to be horribly abused. What terrible things are Quattara and his followers perpetrating against them in private? The Koran commands to show no mercy to non-Muslims. The UN, French military and their U.S. backers are fully responsible. They are allowing it.
There are pictures of terrified captured black Christians on the internet. They are deeply aware of Muslim barbarism. 1,000 Christians were hacked to death or burnt alive in recent days. There is no one to rescue them and Gbagbo’s family. No one to help.
A photo on the internet shows an Ivory Coast black Christian man and woman holding identical signs – a desperate plea to the world for help. This is how America and France are now seen by victims of Islam.
UN-USA-FRANCE=ASSASSINS
yes ..it doesn’t look good for anyone. islam is the problem
Senator McCain has many fine qualities but brains aren’t among them. Were he not the son and grandson of admirals he’d have never gotten into the Academy let alone graduate.
It puts me to tears to admit I voted for this a$$ that the GOP put up as their best hope in the election. The GOP now wonders what the heck is wrong with the base? Could it possibly be the base? The base of the GOP needs a good cleaning and it’s coming up in the next election and all the tears and screaming is going to fall on the deaf ears of the public this time and the wonderful part of it all is the base hasn’t got a clue.
Old (Silly Billy)soldiers should just fade away. I admire and respect McCain’s military service but sadly he is just another out of touch member of the DC ruling elite.
When you hold hands with liberals like McCain has for so long you become as hypocritical and two faced as they are.Its a contagious and degenerative disease
Why attack McCain for uttering lies, speaking out of both sides of his mouth and/or contradictions ? Republicans seem to adore Donald Trump who is incapable of telling the truth. Are there different standards for a man who is essentially a true war hero?
In what way is he a “war hero”?
Have you not read his book?
How does that make him a “hero”?
McCain is a…nah…. I won’t say it.
To think the wise pundits in DC – the Rove and Krauthammer gurus wanted this dart-throwing philosopher to be our president.
Say what would want about Marxist like our present left – they know what team they’re on and it’s not Americas. JMC is on his own team – and like his friends the Lybian rebels, know one can tell whose side he’s on on any given day. And they said that Bush shot from the hip. This guy shoots while the gun’s still in the holster.
Thanks again AZ….
Endless war in Libya! Just perfect for progressives and their useful idiots like McCain. Nobody ever wins, nobody ever loses, and varying levels of conflict continue forever, allowing the UN to pontificate without doing anything realistically worthwhile to stop it. We have finally arrived at ’1984′. I guess it’s like being a victim of rape… progressives-as-perpetrator tell us to simply relax, maybe we’ll even enjoy it.
Senator-I respect you for your service-but-it is time to hang them up.You have done enough for your country.
MsCain is a doddering old fool, probably already into dementia. He should be forced out of office.
If anyone thinks that mccain has a clue or has ever had a clue, they are easily fooled, that idiot never had nor ever will, he is part of the useful idiot crowd.
McCain served this country bravely. For that I give him his due.
As a Senator? Not so much, and if he keeps up with this kind of lunacy he’ll be lumped into the same useless yet harmful category as Jimmy Carter.
The war-mongering, interventionist old fraud, is out to involve the US into yet another war.Mcain really has only 2 political goals :To start wars,and to destroy the first amendment.He needs to be ridiculed into oblivion.
John’s probably in Libya because his good friend Obama and his promoter for President the New York Times asked him go. Takes a little pressure off the Dufuss in Chief when the head RINO sings his hosannahs and pals it up with al-Queida operatives.
Look nobody, especially on the Right wants to be percieved as dishonoring a veteran, but I never put much stock in his service and PoW status when he ran. Whatever he had as a patriot I feel was used up long ago. You just have to look at his record since.
John McCain reminds me of that song “Glory Days” or Al Bundy talking about his high school football career. Maybe he was great once, but no more, and he and his most avid supporters are trading on days long gone. If you think McCain is just a flake just look at his daughter Stacy, by his fruit ye shall know him, she’s a product of his true views.
Bingo.
John has always been a hot head, renegade and more recently a vindictive loser to Bush and in fact shunned by the Bush family…..once allies! Throught his long tenure in congress, John has always played tick-for-tack if he didn’t get his way on the GOP side. He simply walked across the aisle and scratched “Teddy’s” back until the GOP side gave in to some of his flip floppying interests to gain his vote on critical legislation. He remains a master of vindictiveness and playing both ends from the middle.
General Douglas MacArthur said, “Old soldiers never die; they just fade away.” (He should have heeded the Generals wisdom years ago!)
Lindsey is another one!
In Mccain’s case, he just rotted away.
Those who were not from Libya, and held elected office, and referred to Gaddafi as friend are as credible as those who peddle “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”.
There will be a lot of rubble to clear, but that’s life.
I’ve always thought of ccain as the Manchurian candidate. He has never done anything heroic but has capitalized on his former POW status for years.