David # 4 – While you are correct that Andrew is a medical doctor, and is not a traditionally trained Islamic expert, I am certain that Robert Spencer, who is trained in the discipline, would not refute Andrew’s thesis, nor his findings.

Generally it is best to leave certain fields to experts. However, since 9/11/01 there has arisen a whole cadre of self taught experts in the field of Islamic history, politics and its intersection with their core religious doctrine.

I no longer hold much respect for soft science experts.
First: Because these disciplines tend to perverted by ideology.
Second: Because some of them (ag psychology) are more about regurgitating the guru’s rambling than about oberving reality.
Third: Because they tend to exmpthize with the subject of their study (eg: No, the Aztecs weren’t good guys and despite some achievements in some areas the fact is that globally they were lagging a couple millena behind the Europeans).

Also expertise in soft science is relatively easy to adquire respective to say mathematics so it is not unheard that self-learned people end doing better than people trained in the academia (and victims of the teaching of some Chomsky disciple). Victor Davs Hanson is an example. Also the best books about the Russian front in WWII I have ever read have been written by… a former captain of merchant ships.
@18 Keith said:

These infractions against Islam by Christians for the most part ended fifty years ago. However, Spain continues to hold the Canary Islands and two dirt lots in Morocco.

The Canary islands were never Muslim. There had been a little trade between the original inhabitants and Morocco but that it is all. When the Spanirds landed on them there was not a single mosque on the islands.

Christians committed the following against Muslims:

1. Held a small piece of land (considered Christian’s holiest) in Israel on and off for 150 years total?

2. Held Iraq between WWI and WWII.

3. Held modern-day Pakistan and the Suez Canal for 200 years?

4. Most of N. Africa for fifty years?

These infractions against Islam by Christians for the most part ended fifty years ago. However, Spain continues to hold the Canary Islands and two dirt lots in Morocco.

And now the infractions by Muslims against Christians:

1. Muslims invaded and then lorded over most of Christian Spain and Portugal for five centuries.

2. Until 1918, Ottoman Muslims ruled over most of the historically Christian Balkans for hundreds of years.

3. Four hundred years ago Muslims conquered and continue to hold Eastern Christendom’s holiest city: Constantinople (now named Istanbul). A city which sits on historically Christian European land.

4. For centuries, Muslims raided European coastal regions and–by piracy–terrorized the Mediterranean Sea up to the 20th Century.

5. Muslims enslaved an estimated FOUR MILLION European Christians while they had the ability.

Per Wikipedia:

According to Robert Davis between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates, who were vassals of the Ottoman Empire, and sold as slaves between the 16th and 19th centuries.[13][14] These slaves were captured mainly from seaside villages from Italy, Spain, Portugal and also from more distant places like France or England, the Netherlands, Ireland and even Iceland and North America. The impact of these attacks was devastating – France, England, and Spain each lost thousands of ships, and long stretches of the Spanish and Italian coasts were almost completely abandoned by their inhabitants. Pirate raids discouraged settlement along the coast until the 19th century.”

Add in the slavery of Eastern Europeans and the estimated number or Christian slaves soar to four million plus.

6. Starting in 1915, Muslim Turks killed an estimated one to 1.5 million Armenian Christians.

Per Wikipedia:

“. . . with the total number of Armenian deaths generally held to have been between one and one-and-a-half million.[2][3][4] Other ethnic groups were similarly attacked by the Empire during this period, including Assyrians and Greeks, and some scholars consider those events to be part of the same policy of extermination.[5]

“It is widely acknowledged to have been one of the first modern genocides,[6][7][8] as many Western sources point to the systematic, organized manner in which the killings were carried out to eliminate the Armenians.[9] Indeed, the word genocide was coined in order to describe these events.[10]

“The date of the genocide is conventionally held to be April 24, 1915, the day that Ottoman authorities arrested some 250 Armenian intellectuals and community leaders in Constantinople. Thereafter, the Ottoman military uprooted Armenians from their homes and forced them to march for hundreds of miles, depriving them of food and water, to the desert of what is now Syria. Massacres were indiscriminate of age or gender, with rape and other sexual abuse commonplace. The Armenian Genocide is the second most-studied case of genocide after the Holocaust.[11]”

Now, this is probably not an all-inclusive list (I’m sure many additional crimes on both sides of the religious spectrum could be added). Nor do I write this as a call of “Let’s get ‘em!” but rather to point out that the next time you hear someone talk about the horrible crusaders and “Islam-as-victim” prattle, these are a few points you may want to bring up.

In addition to the “regular” jihad with bombs, burkas, and broad swords, they are waging a soft war through their proxies (C.A.I.R. et all) to keep us afraid to criticize them. Remember, Islam is the only religion that CANNOT ALLOW OUTSIDERS TO EVEN QUOTE ITS OWN WORDS…. We cannot question it, for thats insulting, we cannot quote it, for that is blasphamy. We must submit not (yet) before swords, but (for now)lawyers as well.

Yes, those primitive cave people are pretty sophisticated at manipulating the “guilty liberal” west.

We have only ourselves to blame

This is my prediction of the near future. Hamas, Hizboallh, and Syria attack and/or invade Israel at the request of Iran. All the above are destroyed by Israel. This sets up a larger war with Russia, Iran, and a bunch of other moon god worshiping POS countries.

The USA gets involved. Russia, and Iran are defeated. The price of oil goes through the roof, and China gets involved. Setting up Armageddon.

That is how I understand the King James version of G-d’s word. I hope I am wrong, but in case I am correct, repent of your sins in Christ’s name.

Over.