Janine Turner: It’s Time for TRUTH
“Time for TRUTH” seems like a cliché. Perhaps it is a cliché, at least in government. Lots of well-meaning men and women dedicate many hours of service to the United States government. Yet somewhere along the way TRUTH became a nice thought but an unattainable goal, and somehow America started a downhill spiral on a road with no return.
Entrenched in the gutters of “it simply can’t be done,” many representatives of the people insist that clarity, accountability, and accessibility (of bills, for example) are simply too hard to obtain. “Status quo with a minutia of meaningful exertion,” is the mentality that permeates the parliament.
Day upon day, year upon year turn into decade after decade with closets that have not been cleaned and habits that have not been honed. Instead of revitalization and renewal, the republic became the reciprocal for intrigue and IOUs. Instead of active involvement and interaction, deliberation and petition, democracy became the dungeon of denial and isolation, silence and apathy.
How can a Thomas Paine invoke common sense or a Patrick Henry inspire liberty when the people ignore the quest or call? How can a John Adams call for reason or a Thomas Jefferson repeal intrusion if the government resists the duty?
Hence, the troubled state of the shining city on a hill. Hence, the doom that awaits the hapless, hopeless occupants because TRUTH is a nuisance.
When the siege of debt tramples our rights and the lack of honest appraisal annihilates our independence, we the people will be to blame for allowing TRUTH to be an unreasonable goal and allowing our government to run with the wind of whims.
At one time, before the 17th Amendment and the seduction of federal money, the sovereign states were to be the protectors of the TRUTH. Alexander Hamilton, in Federalist 26, wrote that “the state legislatures, who will always be not only vigilant, but suspicious and jealous guardians of the rights of the citizens, against encroachments from the federal government, will constantly have their attention awake to the conduct of the national rulers, and will be ready enough, if anything improper appears, to sound the alarm to the people, and not only to be the VOICE, but if necessary, the ARM of their discontent.”
Beyond the states, the ultimate keepers of TRUTH were to be “we the people” – vigilant seekers of accountability in the bills and laws with votes and voice. Yet the indolent populace led to bloated bills producing the fatted laws upon which liberty has been sacrificed.
So as America, once the hope for all mankind, falls into oblivion, the lynchpin will be the acceptance of “TRUTH as a cliché” and “accountability as novice.”
Alexander Hamilton said, “A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”
I write these things as I trudge the lonely highway with my TRUTH ACT because, to once again quote Alexander Hamilton, “I have thought it my duty to exhibit things as they are, not as they ought to be” – though I still hope for things as they ought to be.
The TRUTH ACT
Having members of the legislative branch:
T- limit the bills from Thirty to Three-hundred pages
R- Read the bill
U-Understand the bill
T- Testify under oath that they understand the bill
H- read it in its entirety on ustream so that it may be Heard by the people
How about a requirement — unfortunately, it would have to be a Constitutional Amendment — that each and every bill cite the specific clause in Article I, Section 8 that gives Congress the power to legislate on its subject matter? (And no “general welfare” nonsense!)
Your suggestion only requires a new House rule, not a Constitutional Amendment. Unfortunately, that new rule would require the political will to pass it.
That rule has already been passed. It reads “We will require each bill moving through Congress to include a clause citing the specific constitutional authority upon which the bill is justified.” Search for that phrase and you’ll see that it’s been implemented and followed pretty well. It was sort of a big deal in the news back when it was proposed.
Start with something simple: A single title rule. Require that a bill have a single title and everything in the bill fit within the meaning of that title. Yeah, it can be gamed with paragraph length titles but it at least gives arguing room as to whether some of the presents under the Christmas Tree fit within the bill title, and it has the advantage of having no Constitutional implications that I can see.
How about a rule that forces Congress to live by the rules of any law that they pass like the rest of us?
That would be a refreshing thing for a change.
The first couple of Republican Congresses after the ’94 Revolution did some of that, don’t know how much of it has survived. I know they put Congress under the FLSA, though even under the FLSA most Congressional staff would be overtime exempt.
Ohio actually has such a rule, which gets violated all the time. The Ohio S. Ct. will invalidate such laws — if they come from the opposite political party from the majority of the Court. (and it’s done by both sides.)
Alaska has such a law, and I’ve written some hundred word sentences as bill titles, but ours also mandates a “single subject,” so you can get a law overturned if you violate it. I think, though, that it is universal that nothing is illegal if nobody complains, sues, or prosecutes.
With the current intelectual level of legislators, they don’t seem to be able to read even that much of a bill. The 800 pound gorilla in the bureaucracy is the devious manipulation in the wording of, inclusion of off record documentation by reference, and best of all the WH directions to staff to radically enforce, or totally ignore the precise wording of individual select portions of the proposed legislation. Even worse is the fact of selective enforcement or subjugation based on class, race, economic status, or political party.
A lot of Republicans would have a hard time going for something like that. Because that would lead to things like the federal government not being able to distort the commerce clause into banning marijuana federally instead of letting the states decide.
Because Republicans are all about states rights, they say.
Part of the problem is that many states are afraid of angering the federal parent and thus lose their allowance. Not every governor is willing to risk
Part of the problem is that many states are afraid of angering the federal parent and thus lose their allowance.
Not every state is willing to risk the federal lawsuit or loss of funding the way Arizona and Mississippi have in order to protect their 10th Amendment rights, although the tide may be turning.
Thirty to Three Hundred? How about Three to Thirty?
Jesus declared that He is the truth. The more we distance ourselves from God the less likely we will ever see anything remotely close to the truth. Psychosis is loosely defined as creating a pseudo-reality and then behaving as if that synthetic pretender were the real thing. We as a society have created the pseudo reality that there is no God, that we are the result of randomness within nature and that there is no ultimate accountability for our behavior. Thus we have entered into a kind of corporate psychosis which explains why so many people respond to the behavior of others, not excluding the congressional thousand page, unread documents voted blindly into law, as CRAZY. It is in fact, actually crazy. Until we return to the most important third of Dennis Prager’s American trinity, i.e. our trust in God, we should continue to expect nothing more than this corporate psychosis, and give up our pretense of a return to Truth.
We tend to romanticize our past, but the fact is all large entities have inherent corruption since people working within them corrupt.
The US government is no exception, from the start there were scandals, graft, bribery, corruption in government and military, in state governments, as much or worse than we see today.
The scale of corruption appears larger because the numbers are larger…but it has always been a battle to control and frame truth by Party trying to gain power.
We are sacrificing Liberty because we have forgotten what freedom is. We bought the marketing concept of America hook line and sinker. We don’t want to make the tough decisions, we elect people to make them for us and spare us the details.
Cut our taxes, but increase entitlements, invade foreign nations but don’t show us our war dead or bother us with their rehabilitation….we will be happy…. Unfortunately this is America’s reality today.
We certainly don’t want to know the truth…it is ugly and forces us to recognize mistakes, and fix them. And nobody wants that.
I agree with you that we have come to a point that people in general don’t want to know the truth and simply elect corrupt individuals to ‘do the business’ of government. I, however, respectfully disagree that it has always been this way.
The reason it has changed is because of a culture change. Yes, evil in the form of corruption and greed has always been around and it is a matter of degree and scale; but not simply money and power party politics.
There were days not too many decades ago when evil had to be done in secret which limited its activity. The audacity of lies and corruption has lost its shock today. When men were truly afraid of facing their Creator with their deeds or were truly ashamed of being caught in a lie or taking a bribe for what it would do to their reputation; there was less of it. Being ‘of sound character’ and ‘of sound mind’ is no longer aspired to; being cool or relevant is. People were shunned for being liars and cheats. They were shunned in business and socially. They were even shunned by their families in order to save the family’s reputation. Until this becomes the norm again, things will not change.
On a side note, please notice, the feign shock progressives have when someone says something that they consider politically incorrect. They are almost Victorian in their reaction to a breaking of one of their ‘rules’ of politically correct polite society. Until conservatives are willing to clean up their own families and then shun and shock on behalf of good character and moral uprightness in the community we will not begin to win the day. Maybe I’m just old and remember the days when this was true in the mainstream of society. But, I promise you, it wasn’t always the way you see things today.
Liberals only “feign” shock when one of “the enemy” steps on their sacred cows. Then they unleash the full force of their goon squads and that person is sacrificed to the PC gods in appeasement by our side. When one of THEIR people strays they are the first to circle wagons and come to that person’s defense. You rarely see these people pay for their real sins.
Our house may not be spotless, but we are the first to demand they leave their post in shame and slink out of town never to be heard of again. They left cleanse, repackage and recycle their rascals right back into the game with no hint of shame.
Hopefully that’s true and all the corrupt committee members in places like the Athens, GA and St. Charles, MO and Oklahoma caucuses will get thrown out of the party or worse for ignoring and violating the rules. Heck, a couple of them even admitted to it later. Just like the Chair of St. Charles did in 2008 when he tried to get all the delegates thrown out because he didn’t like who they supported.
I’m not naive enough to think that the past was nothing but pureness and light (and I’m not insinuating that you are Ione) but from my personal perpective we turned a corner with the election of Bill Clinton in ’92. Much of the media campaign in his favor was built on the premise that ‘character doesn’t matter’. I remember being outraged by that assertion, knowing that since no one has the ability to see the future and predict every eventuality, that character IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS. Harumph. But many of my fellow citizens thought differently. And I equally believe that society sends messages, even when they’re not verbalized, and this implicit sanctioning sent a clear message, in my humble opinion – the message being, do anything you want as long as you talk a good game. So it does not surprise me that people in general – both politicians and businessmen – have lower standards when it comes to ethics and integrity. That which you subsidize…you get more of.
’92 was also the time I tuned out the MSM. They’re brazen cheerleading turned me off and was a foreshadowing of what was to come. And where we are now. I just wanted to get ahead of the curve.
But the Boomer president was part of the 60s generation, and that marked a turning point in our history, as telling the truth became a sometime, rather odd value. I tried to describe the road to perdition here: http://clarespark.com/2012/05/15/progressive-uplift-vs-new-left-nihilism/. I wrote this not because the Progressives were my ideal, but because by comparison with the New Left and its offspring, they were rational and orderly. In the passage I quoted, note how upward mobility is emphasized. Now misanthropy rules the day and may be getting more popular.
I understand it may have been the 90′s when you realized what was going on. Bill Clinton was pretty obvious in the anti-character counts department. But, it does go back further. The reason it was not as obvious is it still did not ‘sell’ well with the general public. Now, after three or four generations it is considered the norm. The argument is between objectivism and subjectivism. Is there objective truth; right and wrong or are there only shades of gray?
Now it has gone so far as to say ‘society has always been this bad’ and if you know that isn’t true you are just ‘romanticizing the past’. There has always been wickedness, pick your poison. Sometimes it ran wild and sometimes it didn’t. Sometimes it took a puritanical form sometimes it looked like a Roman orgy.
Unfortunately, what you have now is something, I’m not sure has existed before (maybe a real historian could enlighten me). You have people who believed in all truth being gray and a Roman orgy lifestyle turning into Puritans in favor of that lifestyle (no I’m not just talking about the gay issue). You have a society that thinks that having a man and woman marry once with the man working and the woman staying home to raise the children and the children not doing drugs or getting pregnant out of wedlock is an insulting, threatening thing and surely can’t be true. A person who does business in an orderly, ethical manner, pays his way (as hard as that is today), lives within a budget is just the most strange and unusual thing there can be and he must be hiding something. And if anyone dares to say that this might be the right or ideal way to live (even if we all can’t get there) you should be burned at the stake or at least reeducated in a camp somewhere far, far away. Puritanical-ism in the name of debauchery; not sure we have had that before. ‘One truth in the name of subjectivism.’ Philosophers throughout history would have their brains explode over that one, no matter which side they were on.
Not quite true, i speak out daily on the problems of a corrupt society here and at home. Although i am now more used to getting the crazy guy look. But about twenty percent of people listen and some of them have now started to speak out. The individual is the building block of society. I care and i hope more will care and not fear the crazy guy look for promoting truth not occupy wall street BS.
Read and understand the bill…doesn’t seem to much to ask, does it? Many of us were shocked in these recent years to realize they didn’t always do this, or at least have staff helping them wade through it.
Common Sense, Janine — real Thomas Paine-ish.
“Lots of well-meaning men and women dedicate many hours of service to the United States government”, on the other hand, is pure balderdash, a filler sentence with which you hope to neutralize a hostile reader.
In fact, anyone purposely seeking government employ below the appointment level — that is in the Sniviling Service grades 1-15, is a LEECH with poor preparation for any job, fine arts, political science (oxymoron), gender science (just a moron) and so on graduate. Don’t give the slackers an inch.
So does your diatribe actually include our fine men and women in the Armed Forces? The FBI? I would include the Secret Service but that flew out the hotel window recently. Blanket statements should be omitted from most if not all rhetoric.
Don’t include the FBI in that. They are good fellas, but they will kill you in an instant if they are ordered to do so. No independant thought, there.
Someone has been watching too many James Bond movies. FBI agents are law enforcement officers just like your local cop. They don’t have a License To Kill.
Really? Does the “militarization” of Federal LE agencies count? “Rules of engagement” so muddied that we have a Lon Horiuchi, FBI sniper, taking out a guy’s wife and child in Idaho, or HRT in Waco demolishing a church compound using an armored vehicle with a battering ram and injecting flammable CS gas into an ISO 1 wood frame structure?
Pelaut wrote: “In fact, anyone purposely seeking government employ below the appointment level — that is in the Sniviling Service grades 1-15, is a LEECH with poor preparation for any job, fine arts, political science (oxymoron), gender science (just a moron) and so on graduate.”
You are in a Catch 22 here. If you insist that all of these people are incompetent, leeches etc., then who will do the job?
It’s like teaching; someone has to do it. Is the answer to define whoever does it as a dolt, give them a dolt’s half pay, and then have your child educated exactly how? The implementation of standards is a never-ending battle, but then, what isn’t? I understand the frustration as teaching and government salaries and the related retirements, creep ever upward, but what we need is someone who can propose a reasonable way to control said positions and salaries. But alas, we are fated to lurch from one human failing to another. It is endlessly debated what is sustainable or not; we respond only to disasters, and then only for as short a time as possible.
Society evolves and various qualities get rewarded differently as things change. Some people sound as if they want to turn the clock back 100-250 years. Ain’t happening.
Interesting side comment on the teaching profession. State of Florida has a statewide educational assessment achievement testing program, FCAT. The concept is noble, the truth is not. Testing is in age and grade appropriate subjects i.e. a grade will test two or three subjects this year, a different set next year, etc. The individual, class, grade, school and school district results then go into a grading system for schools and districts and a carrot vs stick ($ awarded /withheld) program.
From personal observation, there are more than a few faults showing up. First, there is ‘teaching to the test’ virtually ignoring the basics of the subject.
Then, for those who cannot teach, buy a ‘proof copy’ of the test, fill in correct answers, and distribute to your students. And/or fudge the scores, pad them just enough to get the required improvements that result in monetary rewards for the teacher, school and district
Finally, the worst intelectual insult, the results of the current year writing section of the test had 80% of the individuals taking the test failing. The remedy, lower the passing grade level.
Summary .. Reduce everything to the lowest common denominator!
This just might be indicative of a tidal wave of watering down any kind of standard of acceptability, to reward mediocrity to the same degree as excellence!
There is no way this can be rectified until we demand a higher level of integrity from individuals, organizations and institutions.
You could not prove this statement, it is not true you could say that some of the public employes fall into your categories, This would more likely be true. However i applaud you keep up the good work.
There seems to have been an error in the data-stream. The “T” in “Truth”–at least on my monitor–reads “T- limit the bills from Thirty to Three-hundred pages”.
I feel certain it was meant to read “limit the bills from Three to Thirty pages”.
If a legislative proposal can’t be sufficiently delineated in less than thirty pages of type, it likely is MEANT to be ambiguous and designed with malicious intent.
Personally, I would like to see the bills limited to 1 page, single spaced 12 point type. That’s about all most of our congress critters seem to be willing to glance at and we end up with the opinions of a bunch of staffers with their own personal agendas attached to ever piece of garbage legislation passed thru congress.
Tom, that was my first reaction, too.
Put your mind to it and you can explain very complex ideas in 3 pages. Anything longer than 30 pages becomes a big scoop that broadens the scope, impact and number of cronies who benefit.
This is not happening by chance. This is a plot, a strategy to “change” America. Collapse the dollar and America is forever a different place. When nothing else make sense, you must consider everything. The Cloward-Piven Strategy is in play. The propgressives are out to re-shape the world unfortunately for them, Americans are wakeing up to their plot.
Yes, you are so right on Janine. It is time for the Truth. I agree – Thank you kindly.
I would like truth restored to a lot of things, not only bills in Congress. A friend and I were astonished when attending a workshop at a meeting of either state or national Republican women that we were the only two (out of about 75-100 women) to think honesty should be a requirement for a president of the US>…..and this was before the day of Obama.
I think personal informarion about people running for any office should be available for all to see. A minimum requirement should be a birth certificate showning the date and place of birth. I am not a ‘birther’; Obama’s birth information is long overdue and should have been required BEFORE he was allowed to run for office.
I am terribly disgusted with politics right now and think our current system should be given a good cleaning with Lysol. There are a lot of crooks in government and not all are democrats. I would also include cmpaign workers in the cleansing routine.and would severely limit the money spent and duration of all political campaigns
Congress needs to specifically define once and for all what a “natural-born citizen” is. There is actually a Supreme Court case on record that points out that people born in the U.S. to non-citizen parents have different citizenship than those born with citizen parents. But going further on that was not the point of that case so they didn’t.
The guy who wrote the 14th Amendment said in front of Congress twice that a natural-born citizen has both parents as citizens.
A lot of people still don’t even understand the Obama birther stuff. Whether he was born in Hawaii or what’s on his birth certificate is rather immaterial to the known fact that his father was British and his mom (far as I know) didn’t officially qualify as a U.S. citizen until after he was born.
Under current “interpretation,” (that seems to defy past case law and evidence…), evil dictator #1 of a country can have a kid with evil dictator #2 of another country, sneak the mom past the U.S. border, have the kid, and that kid can grow up to be President of the U.S. That’s not supposed to happen, and that’s why the natural-born clause exists in the first place.
Truth is inconvenient (thanks Al baby) to the self-important, lifelong legislator.
It’s too simple, he/she might become irrelevant or maybe even revert to the status of citizen legislator, a part time gig where they were home the rest of the time, working at a real job, which was (I think) the original intent of those who crafted our Constitution.
Common Sense is also held in low regard.
In the shadows of political correctness with the media carrying the water for the left’s lies and misrepresentations…
Thomas Sowell is a lovely thorn in their side
Great commentary-
I’m a fan of your days on Northern Exposure.
For too long, we’ve been begging our representatives to be honest with us. We even stooped so low as to allow another liar to take control of the White House. We must not allow this too ever happen again.
Until reality returns to our educational system from the bottom up, neither the voters nor the politicians will even know what the truth is.
I would add a rule that states that all bills will be written in plain, 8th grade level English. I am reasonably ejikated and I find it impossible to understand even mundane things like the 3 pages of 4 font type that accompany most credit card statments, let alone the tortured grammatical gymnastics one has to perform to understand any law. And laws that are too complex to understand are fertile ground for abuse and malfeasance. And if it’s too complex to explain in these terms then perhaps that should be a warning that it’s bad law. Either way…it’s back to the drawing board until the politicians can get it right.
That was funny when Obama and some in Congress were all big on passing “easier to read” credit card bill fine-print. …have they read their own fine-print they put out in everything from Obamacare to NDAA to the IRS!?
Repeal the 17th amendment. Give back the senate to the states.
I think the first step in getting our federal government under control is to repeal the 17th amendment. When the states lost control of their federal representatives to the popular vote, the states lost their representatives to special interests…look no further that Chris Dodd who got most of his campaign cash from OUT OF STATE interests! I am certain that is the case for most of our entrenched Senators from both sides of the aisle. Give the states back control of their federal representatives and let the special interests dance before 50 different states to get their way!
Thank you. I am a firm believer in all lobbying being done in/at the state level where the objects influence is to be felt. It would have to be approved in each and every state in the “effected” list. The Federal level is not where this sort of behavior belongs.
Does she get paid to write this overwrought mass of bad metaphors and dead cliches?
Suits from private individuals intending to obtain a court ruling compelling legislators to do their jobs legally will almost always be dismissed for lack of standing. As a taxpaying citizen, your vote on election day is the only force you can exert.
Outstanding, Janine. You did something that 95% of our national leaders have never done….read the Federalist Papers. Someone suggested that we write a law stating that if our congress doesn’t have a budget within five days after the deadline, all of them will be automatically impeached and may never run for any office again. Likewise, if the budget they produce is more than 3% over the debt limit, the punishment would be the same. I can just about guarantee that we would see them able to do what they claim they cannot, immediately!
You always do really well in getting the point across. So very true what you have written here and it is time for “Truth” just as you so intelligently have stated in this artice. God bless you Janine Turner.
“What is TRUTH? asked Jesting Pilate, pausing not for an answer?
Janine,
Alexander Hamilton also was Washington’s banker. After designing the first central bank where the taxes would be collected and distributed Hamilton sold 80% to investors. Jefferson cried fowl that is unconstitutional.Hamilton was a Federalist and monarchist. This action was a conflict of interest to the American people. The investors were and always will be the enemy of the people. They have the power to use our tax dollars to fund our enemies. How can we possibly be sovereign states or country when our banking/federal reserve controls us; we were never sovereign and we never won the war. The Federal Reserve and central banking keep us in the spin cycle. This is a continuation not something that is new.
http://abolishthefederalreserve.org/
Janine, thanks for caring. I see your point but, I have the feeling that you are preaching to the choir, here’s why. The people that read these political posts or blogs already participate in the democratic process and yes the more information the more intelligent the vote.
However; IMHO, information is not really a problem, technical innovation has connected the population with any and all information needed in fact, and one could argue that an information overload exists.
From my perspective no one has correctly identified the real problem with our current political process little-lone addressed it.
A democracy only functions effectively IF a large percentage of LEGAL CITIZENS accepts their responsibility and participates in the process. The current low level of participation makes voter fraud a real problem. Election fraud is rampant because so many legal citizens no longer participate and are not going to the polls.
When we talk about transparency and accountability we simply must start with, “We the People” because when we stop passing the buck it’s the people that have allowed the waste, abuse, fraud and corruption we’ve experienced since 1776.
Somehow, we must address the correct problem and attempt to make voting a fun, responsible activity that people accept, own and take pride in just like they do their guns, religion, property and other things they cherish. Your country, state, county and community must also be cherished if a free and just society is to exist anywhere in the world including in America.
Thanks for listening,
Howdy, Janine! This was a great piece, and I see that you’ve followed the wisdom of many counselors, as the Bible says! HALLELUJAH! Definitely, HE has opened the door of this debate, with many articulate voices raised! Keep up the good work, as we go from “Hope and Change”, to “Change for Hope”! As a Viet Nam Veteran from the 60′s, serving three West-Pacs on the Heavy Cruiser Flagship, U.S.S. Saint Paul (CA-73), I’m more proud than ever to be called an American! We were “Top Gun of the Navy” back in 1968; but, now, our weapons are not carnal, being Mighty through Prayer, as we put on the Full Armor of our FATHER GOD in HEAVEN, from CHRIST JESUS our LORD and SAVIOUR, by the Power of the HOLY SPIRIT! AMEN! and AMEN! All Praise to HIM, Forever! AGAPE!
If an individual does not value speaking the truth in their own life as top priority, they will not care less whether politicians speak truth, and in fact will expect them to lie. Worse, they will suspect politicians (there are a few) of lying even when they speak the truth. Whatever Rev. Frank Bersch is on-we could ALL do with some!!(Amen! and Hallelujah!)
If we limit the federal governments access to the individual or corproate pocketbooks, the fed will have to be a bit more responsive to the states and the taxpayers. Let the states raise their share of the federal budget like the US Constitution calls for in Article 1 Section 2. Apportionment according to census. The XVI amendment is not a mandate to tax income, just gives congress the power. A power they can choose not to use. Limit the total state apportionment to 2007 tax level. The federal governement can still borrow but must be able to cash flow the payments from their limited state collections. A form of balanced budget. Let each state legislature decide on how to raise their share of the federal taxes. Georgia can have a 9-9-9 plan. Texas a sales tax. etc. If a state gets too regressive on its taxes it’s businesses can move to a state with a more business friendly tax code. Competition. It is still the best solution for business. Our US Constitution is still the best solution for government. Rever it.
Dear Janine, You said it all so well. God bless you dear Lady!
Great article and post Jeanine. A worthy goal but so many can’t find it within themselves now to uphold and defend the Constitution per their oaths. Perhaps we start there and work our way up to TRUTH? As BillÒ would say…. What say you?
Since comments are not allowed on her own site I figure I need to say something here. SO… As far as Janine Turner is concerned and her views on The Presidents Citizenship… Well let’s just say that I never really believed all those blond jokes but if its true that she believes this well… then there is something about the shoe fitting…
I also think it tells a lot about a person that doesn’t allow comments on a page they own until they are “moderated” or should I maybe instead say censored.