I’ve Become an Enemy of the People for Speaking the Truth About Islam
When it comes to the right to speak one’s mind about Islam, the record of the last few years makes it clear which direction the West is moving in. In France and Italy, Oriana Fallaci is put on trial for disparaging Islam. In Canada, Mark Steyn and Ezra Levant are hauled before “human rights commission” tribunals for criticizing Islam in print. In Australia, an Islamic organization sues two pastors for “vilification of Muslims.” In Britain, a Daily Telegraph columnist is arrested on charges of hate speech for having written negatively about Islam, and the Archbishop of Canterbury proposes that Parliament pass stronger laws against such speech acts. And in the Netherlands, Geert Wilders, the head of the Freedom Party, which performed so well in the June 9 general elections that Wilders may end up in the governing coalition, still faces trial for having made a film about the Koranic foundations of terrorism.
Then there’s Norway, where I live, and where the last few days have seen yet another dark development. By way of background, permit me to begin by quoting myself. On pages 230-31 of my book Surrender: Appeasing Islam, Sacrificing Freedom I sum up the more alarming aspects of Norway’s Discrimination Law, passed in 2005:
It forbids “harassment on the grounds of ethnicity, national origin, ancestry, skin color, language, religion, or beliefs,” and, in turn, defines harassment as “actions, omissions, or utterances [my emphasis] that have the effect or are intended to have the effect of being insulting, intimidating, hostile, degrading, or humiliating.”
In other words, it’s illegal just to say certain things.
Defendants may be accused not only by the individuals whom they’ve supposedly offended but also by semiofficial organs such as the Anti-Racist Center and the Center against Ethnic Discrimination (both of which helped formulate the law, and both of which exist less to oppose real racism and discrimination than to oppose political incorrectness generally) or by the government’s Equality and Anti-Discrimination Ombud.
Which means that a handful of far-left organizations have been given enormous power to silence those they disagree with.
Violations of the law by individuals are punishable by fine; violations by individuals in concert with at least two other persons (such as a writer conspiring with an editor and publisher, perhaps?) can be punished by up to three years’ imprisonment — this in a country where murderers often get off with less. Moreover, the burden of proof is on the accused: you’re guilty until proven innocent.
And this in a supposedly free country.
Which brings us to the most recent developments. Over the years, I’ve had a close association with Human Rights Service (HRS), a small Oslo-based foundation that formulates and proposes government policies designed to combat the subjection and abuse of females in Muslim communities. I’ve translated materials for HRS and written pieces in Norwegian for the HRS website. Last fall, after suggesting that HRS expand its site to include articles in English by contributors from around Europe and elsewhere — so that writers from different countries could compare notes, as it were, about their experiences with Islam, immigration, and integration — I began working regularly for HRS, writing, soliciting, and translating pieces for their new international web pages.
Meanwhile HRS was going through a rough patch. Ever since its establishment in 2001, it has been despised by many people on the Norwegian left — the same folks who hate Israel and who feel warmly about Hamas. The two women who run HRS, Hege Storhaug and Rita Karlsen, have labored tirelessly against monstrous practices like honor killing, forced marriage, and female genital mutilation, and for doing so have won the lifelong gratitude of countless Muslim girls and women — but as far as their PC enemies are concerned, to condemn any aspect of Islam is to be an Islamophobe, pure and simple. Last summer, a couple of newspapers, the far-left Dagbladet and the Communist Klassekampen, waged a brutal and breathtakingly mendacious smear campaign against HRS, the obvious intent of which was to bring it down once and for all.
Now, HRS receives its funding from the Orwellian-sounding Royal Norwegian Ministry of Children, Equality, and Social Inclusion. Since last October, the ministry has been run by Audun Lysbakken, 32, a member of the Socialist Left Party (the furthest left of the three left-wing parties in the current governing coalition) and a former journalist at — where else? — Klassekampen. Lysbakken’s contempt for HRS is palpable — and that contempt is shared by a number of far-left organizations (including the above-mentioned Anti-Racist Center) which also receive funds from his ministry, and which plainly want to see HRS defunded and driven into bankruptcy. On June 10, the Anti-Racist Center (or, as it styles itself in English, the Norwegian Centre against Racism) issued something called the “NGO Shadow Report 2010.” Produced in collaboration with nine other groups — Amnesty International Norway; The MiRA Resource Center for Black, Immigrant and Refugee Women; The Norwegian Helsinki Committee; The Institution against Public Discrimination (OMOD), PMV (Primary Health Workshop); The Human Rights Committee of the Norwegian Bar Association; The Human Rights Committee of The Norwegian Psychological Association; The Union of Education in Norway; Norwegian People’s Aid; and The Tenant’s Association of Norway — and written in English (although, it must be said, not very good English), this document was commissioned and funded by Lysbakken’s ministry and purports to be a supplement to and commentary upon “Norway’s combined 19th/20th Periodic Report Submitted by Norway under Article 9 of the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination.” (Submitted, that is, to the UN’s Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination.) In short, this “shadow report” has official status.
The “shadow report” is 68 pages long, and is divided into five articles. Article 5 is entitled “Prohibit and Eliminate All Forms of Racial Discrimination and To Ensure All Equality before the Law.” The first item under this heading is “Islamophobia.” And the section about Islamophobia is entirely devoted to HRS and me. HRS, which has formulated laws that are now on the books in Denmark and Norway and that help to protect the rights of Muslim women and girls, is described as “a state funded advocate of anti-muslim prejudice. … HRS has a constant negative focus on Islam and muslims. … HRS is both a major actor in and of themselves and a major resource for anti-Islamists.” The report further denounces HRS for having posted articles on its website in support of Geert Wilders.
But HRS’s major offense, it would appear, is having employed me. I am the subject of no fewer than three items under the category “Islamophobia.” The first item notes that when my book While Europe Slept was named a finalist for the National Book Critics Circle Award for 2006, the president of the NBCC called the book an expression of “Islamophobia” and an NBCC board member (who, by the way, later turned out not to have even read the book, only the title and subtitle) called it “racism as criticism” (whatever that means).
The second item about me reads as follows:
Bawer himself states in the book that rising Muslim birth-rates and a “refusal” to integrate will allow them to dominate European society within 30 years, and that the only way to avoid such a disaster is to abolish the politically correct and multicultural doctrine that, according to him, is rife within the continent. He also suggests a physical solution for the problem he perceives: “European officials have a clear route out of this nightmare. They have armies. They have police. They have prisons. They’re in a position to deport planeloads of people everyday. They could start rescuing Europe tomorrow.”
Actually, that quotation doesn’t come from While Europe Slept. It’s from a blog entry dated January 26, 2007, in which I compared Europe’s situation vis-à-vis its enemies within — the Muslim imams and other radicals who condemn freedom and call for sharia law — to that of somebody with Stockholm syndrome: “Europe,” I wrote, ”is being held captive. Yet just as Shawn Hornbeck, who had a cell phone and computer, was in theory perfectly free to flee his captor or contact his parents, European officials have a clear route out of this nightmare. They have armies. They have police. They have prisons. They’re in a position to deport planeloads of people every day. They could start rescuing Europe tomorrow. Yet how have they responded to the gangsters who are holding it hostage? In precisely the same way Shawn Hornbeck apparently did: like prisoners under lock and key. They’ve been incredibly docile, compliant, submissive.”
As it happens — and this is just a parenthetical curiosity I feel compelled to share — I’ve seen those exact same lines from that blog entry cited several times by Norwegian reporters in the last year or two. In the Norwegian media, those few brief sentences from my blog have now come to define me. For months I wondered: why do the reporters here keep quoting that same old blog entry, instead of — say — actually cracking open one of my many books and finding out what’s inside? Also, how did they dig up those lines? Had some member of the Norwegian press corps — which is notorious for its laziness and lack of enterprise — actually read through several years’ worth of my blog entries, amounting to heaven knows how many hundreds of thousands of words, in order to find just the right quotation? Nope. It turned out that the blog quote was on my Wikipedia page. That’s where they’d all found it: on Wikipedia. In Norway, that counts as investigative journalism.
Anyway, back to the “shadow report.” The last of its three items about me returns to the subject of Geert Wilders, and quotes a single sentence I wrote at the HRS website about the court case against Wilders: “In fact, Wilders has only done one thing: he has made visible important truths about a very dangerous ideology.”
And that’s it. To sum up, two members of the NBCC think I’m a racist; I hold certain views about Islam; and I’ve deplored the fact that Geert Wilders is on trial for holding essentially the same views. These offenses on my part are sufficient, apparently, to qualify me officially as (to borrow the title of a play by Norway’s greatest playwright) an Enemy of the People.
Controversy is one thing. I’ve been a professional writer for three decades, and have long since become accustomed to controversy — accustomed to being criticized severely, to seeing my words misquoted and my views misrepresented, to being attacked in print and to answering back. But this is something entirely different. We’re talking about the government of a supposedly free country stepping in, tapping me on the shoulder, and telling me: You’re not supposed to say that. It’s a chilling development, and the more I think of it the more chilling it feels.
The question is: what comes next? I’ve now been singled out, in a report commissioned and funded by the government of the country in which I live, as a perpetrator of Islamophobia. The items about me appear under the heading “Prohibit and Eliminate All Forms of Racial Discrimination and To Ensure All Equality before the Law.” Exactly how does the Ministry of Children, Equality, and Social Inclusion propose to “eliminate” the supposed “racial discrimination” on my part? Will I be arrested and prosecuted under the Discrimination Law of 2005? Am I about to join the company of those who have been hauled into court for daring to speak the truth about Islam, Muhammed, and the Koran? What say you, Herr Lysbakken?






Horrifying.
What can one say?
Totalitarianism advances by the day.
The West has become an insane asylum in the name of social justice which is a phrase I take to mean thievery by those who can’t or won’t from those who can and will. The liberal Left doesn’t understand it is in a fight for it’s very survival and so has come to a de facto interpretation of it’s own political constitutions as a suicide pact. The good ol’ thought police are no longer on the prowl only in the stupid minds of New World Order buffs but are now on full display for our enjoyment. The double standard between the way Islam is treated by the West and how its immigrants treat the West is tremendous. The West, as presently constituted is through and it is that simple. It will be overtaken by the population explosions in the middle east, Africa and Latin America until it is simply strangled to death and 800 years of painful and traumatic struggle towards enlightenment will be taken down by a permanent Third World baby boom that wouldn’t know the words, ‘greater good’ if it was tattooed backward on their foreheads. The ‘greater good’ will be taken down and destroyed in the name of the ‘greater good’.
Islam is a CULT, nothing more. Totalitarianism and political correctness the will be the death of the Western Civilization as we know it. Be prepared for www3 it’s on the horizon and it will be fought by native countrymen, in every city and town through out the world.
I am Islamophobic, Ku-Klux-Klanophobic, Naziphobic, Communistphobic, Racistophobic and I claim my God given right to oppose any ideology who doesn’t please me and those who profess this ideology.
I am also Cowardophobic and Quislingopobic
Bravo very well said.
Actually, VERY well said. People are going to have to start standing up and willingly flooding the jails in the name of a 21st century civil rights movement – the right to speak freely.
Me, too! Islam is feces. Filth, disease, horror, ugly, vicious, satanic.
There is no such entity as Allah; a mythical conception in the mind of Mohammed- a childmolesting thief, liar and murderer, who did not ascend to heaven, but has been burning in hell for fourteen hundred years, praise God!
Mohammed and pig shit are synonymous, as are Allah and snake vomit. His insane followers are not rewarded for homicide bombings, but are damned as murderers. Islam is our enemy. To defeat terrorism we must destroy Islam, the chosen tool of the International Bankers for world domination. Islam is evil, wicked, false, wrong, diabolical.It will threaten us unless and until we stamp it out.
Thank you for standing strong and speaking the truth. Whatever may happen, we will support you.
Well said, sir.
Being a prophet is tough work, but has great rewards (cf. Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount, Matthew chapter 5).
This organization sounds very much like C.S. Lewis’ National Institute of Coordinated Experiments (“N.I.C.E.”) in his space trilogy’s third volume, That Hideous Strength. If you don’t mind the science fiction genre, give it a read. It neatly pegs the corruption of government to perform banal but monstrously evil tasks under cover of nice-sounding “progressive” (i.e., hard left) government functionaries.
Yes, you will most likely be arrested, charged and tried in court. Best of luck. There’s nowhere for you to seek asylum anymore. The entire world seems to be cowering, buckling to the PC set and Islams demands. Best of luck to you.
“There’s nowhere for you to seek asylum anymore.” Yes there is, back in the USA where he was born.
Scary. This is Sharia Law being implemented already, without the need of Sharia Tribunals.
Presenting Islamophobia as racial discrimination is wrong. Islam is a religion, and religion is a lifestyle choice in almost every country in the world. You CHOOSE to be Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, etc. That is a concious decision made by grown adults at some point in their lives, and if we can’t judge people by the decisions they make, then what the hell can we judge them on.
Keep it up Mr. Bawer. Your books are fascinating, educational, and most important, scary. Hope fully scary enough to have an effect on Europeans, and to have it be a lesson to Americans to not take this path of rampant political correctness.
You don’t CHOOSE to be a muslim (unless you’re brain-damaged from birth) but if you’re born into it, you can’t leave (apostates must be killed, according to the Qur’an).
Islam is the religious Mafia – there’s no way out except death.
And that is just another crime against humanity that islam’s founder is guilty of.
Support from the Netherlands.
Keep fighting the good fight!
Sterkte,je hebt volledig gelijk.
Norway is yet another Western country intent on committing cultural suicide. At least, Bruce, you are in very good company (Steyn, Hirsi Ali et al). The title of Melanie Phillips’ new book has it the right way up: The World Turned Upside Down.
I hope you’ve started packing and are looking into political asylum in a safe country.
This is serious. You are in jeopardy from your government and from members of the Religion of Peace(TM).
I agree with Chris….don’t take it as a joke. Take it as a warning & move away while you can. You will still be able to work somewhere else, & keep up with whats going on Islam-wise, but not if you’re either 1) in prison; or 2) fatwa’ed against & either wind up like Theo or Pim. Take care brother & watch your back…good time to invest in a pistol or two
Islam is not a race.
Racism is stupid because judging people by features that are not under their control makes no sense. Discriminating on the basis of ideas people hold and the actions they choose to take is not racism, and makes perfect sense. We do it every day. We need to in order to survive.
If someone chooses a set of beleifs that promotes world domination through total war, submission of women and abuse of children, that is more than sufficient reason to despise them, oppose them, and impede their crimes whenever possible.
Islam is not a race.
There are people way worse than racists: racist-criers. You’ll find plenty of them in the left and the socialist/progressive/multicultural movement: always assuming there are racists in every corner and cry “racist” at whoever criticizes Islam or talk about preserving European (read: “white”) cultures and traditions.
A German who wanted to keep an old German tradition in his native village while the Muslim Turks and the Algerians are moving in and settling?
RAAACIST!!
A Frenchman who wanted to employ people for his winery company but cannot hire Muslims because their religion forbids consumption of alcoholics?
RAAAACIIISTT!!!
A Norwegian writer who wanted to alarm his people that Muslim immigrants are about to slowly implement sharia law in his country?
RAAAAAAAAKKKEEEEST!!!
You might not like actual racists but you should loathe and despise “racist-criers”, the adult-sized babies who won’t tolerate anyone offending their delusional ideas of social harmony and multiculturalism.
There are people way worse than racists: racist-criers. You’ll find plenty of them in the left and the socialist/progressive/multicultural movement: always assuming there are racists in every corner and cry “racist” at whoever criticizes Islam or talk about preserving European (read: “white”) cultures and traditions.
A German who wanted to keep an old German tradition in his native village while the Muslim Turks and the Algerians are moving in and settling?
RAAACIST!!
A Frenchman who wanted to employ people for his winery company but cannot hire Muslims because their religion forbids consumption of alcoholics?
RAAAACIIISTT!!!
A Norwegian writer who wanted to alarm his people that Muslim immigrants are about to slowly implement sharia law in his country?
RAAAAAAAAKKKEEEEST!!!
You might not like actual racists but you should loathe and despise “racist-criers”, the adult-sized babies who won’t tolerate anyone offending their delusional ideas of social harmony and multiculturalism.
(REPOST – I wasn’t sure clicking “submit comment” actually shown the posting result the first time as I didn’t see any, so I’m submitting for the second time. I’m already subscribed to the Daily Digest.)
Here’s the truth about Islam:
The Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims (Andrew Bostom)
and
The Suicide of Reason: Radical Islam’s Threat to the West (Lee Harris)
Islam is a serial murderer of entire cultures and peoples. This is what Islam has done throughout its entire history. Those whom it does not destroy, it enslaves and impoverishes. Islam IS the enemy.
“Racism is stupid because judging people by features that are not under their control makes no sense.”
Really? So, a university that bases acceptance on SAT scores is senseless?
What you describe is happening here in Australia as well as to the rest of the western nations, we are being taken over steadily by these Muslims who come here and actually demand that we change certain things for their benefit to suit their lifestyle.It’s made worse by the politically correct who, with the help of the left government we have in power at the moment. I’m afraid if the western world is going to sit back for too much longer and let them populate us out it will be our downfall as we will be under their rule, and it will be our fault for being so complacent, and weak.Try going to their country and demanding they change their ways to suit us!
Maybe I’m not disturbed enough to see it, but I do not understand how revealing and publicising the sociopathic or psychopathicly negative practices of this ideology referenced as Islam is anything but the truth. Being censured for writing the truth is so very Dark Ages, so pre-Enlightenment, so, let’s say, 7th Century. Ah, Islam is still a 7th century tribal political control ideology!
Somewhere, the authorities of Norway and most of Europe need to publicise their desire to turn back the clock to 7th Century practices so that those of us in the Third Estate or without an Estate will understand what our “lords” desire.
Does this mean we have to wait a few hundred years for the Crusades?
It might well, as if things keep going this way, we will return to that insanity, too.
But isn’t telling an unflattering truth about Islam and its founder actually a violation of the blasphemy laws under sharia? So we’re already functioning according to those rules. To a normal Westerner, the truth is just the truth, neutral fact that can be disclosed without illegality. But things are quite different in the Middle East.
Dear Mr. Bruce Bawer,
I read hyour comments about islam. Iagree all what you wrote. Unfortunately, this is only one drop of water in an ocean. Iam well prepared to talk about islam and moslems, which I describe in few words:
Tese people, with very very few exceptions, a folk of narcissists, paranoiacs, schizophrenics, psychopats, colericals. Sigmund Freud would have had mountains of materials to write. Be kind and let me have your personal email address, Ihave very interessing of my compilations about islam which will please you. I will be waiting for your contact.
Gabriel
I would say definitely yes. When the State writes laws to regulate speech and behavior they have every intention of punishing the individual.
Remember, the first impulse of every Utopian is , to make the people obey the government.
Good luck in your endeavor.
This is the MO of the totalitarian left. Subjugation by force. Our PC is in the beginning stages of what the author is witnessing.
What I have not seen though an answer to what does the left see as its endgame by siding with Islam? Does the left really think Islam will be grateful for their help in destroying western civilization? Does the effete, erudite and elite left really think Islam will not turn on them as soon as they get the power to do so? Since the pillars of power and information are dominated by the white left (here in America and around the world), it will come into conflict with Islam sooner or later.
The left is missing two character traits that Islam respects: respect for self and respect for individual strength. The left has neither and Islam knows that and will use the left to gain its seat of power and then destroy the left.
What I have not seen though an answer to what does the left see as its endgame by siding with Islam?
I see a convergence of purpose in the anti democratic Left and anti-democratic Islam, to wit…
…to weaken democratic institutions, to bring about Itself as all inclusive, with nothing opposing it, to use political correctness and the engendering of fear in a population as a means to bringing about that end.
You’re right, when Islam reigns supreme and its numbers have overwhelmed all other populations, its current compadres on “the Left”… in Norway, in America, everwhere and all their anti-Islamic, libertine ways…will be the first to go.
“…defines harassment as “actions, omissions, or utterances [my emphasis] that have the effect or are intended to have the effect of being insulting, intimidating, hostile, degrading, or humiliating.”
What about utterances that have the effect of being true?
“…to condemn any aspect of Islam is to be an Islamophobe, pure and simple.”
Intimidation enables Islam to effectively use the cudgel of political correctness against free peoples around the world, Norway being one of the most responsive countries.
“Last summer, a couple of newspapers, the far-left Dagbladet and the Communist Klassekampen, waged a brutal and breathtakingly mendacious smear campaign against HRS, the obvious intent of which was to bring it down once and for all.”
So utterances (libel) are verboten, but writing (slander) against HRS is OK ?
Norway has been opening a big hole by allowing itself to be intimidated by Islam and its agendists.
It will be a beacon for many more Mullah Krekars, Iraqi firebrand & radical (and bin laden devotee) who was even too hot for Norway, which ordered him expelled in 2003. (reportedly, that particularly crazy and unbalanced radical Islamist was still in the country in 2009)
Between absurd choices for Nobel prizes and all the coddling of individuals whose mission in your country is to destroy it, Norway is looking a little wacky these days.
So utterances (libel) are verboten, but writing (slander) against HRS is OK ?
Reverse those.
Bruce I read your book several years ago and it was eye opening. Please keep up the courageous work.
This should have been titled Quisling Nation.
Dear Bruce, Those who treat you as islamophobic, are like the germans say: Archlöcher, no matter who they are. I am snce nearly 5 years in controversy wth many high dignitaries of the catholic church, among them eminences, bischops, Monsignori, presidents, primeministers, ministers of all westrn countries, political partis. You know that nowadays, with all the modern mediatic facilities, no one can hide himself. So I menage no one who raise wrongly his voice.Even I attacked Amnesty International fortheir behavior relativ to the interdiction of the islamic veils. But the christian countries shuld remove the cross from the schols and even courts of justice. And no one raise the voice about all thebatrocities tyhat the different ethnical minorities suffering the worst persecutions in numerous islamic countries. That shows the indifference of our parlamenteries in our countries. I can write books and books about this subjects. I would be pleased if we remain in contact.
Gabriel
HRS’s major offense is showing the dirty underside of importing a Muslim minority. You’re embarrassing the self-righteous left by dealing with the human cost of multiculturalism. Norway if you are going to import a dark age culture your gonna get dark age problems.
It clearly shows the left does not value woman’s rights as much as having a multi-ethnic society. You are a hypocrite if you accept in one apartment a Norwegian woman has full modern rights and next door is a woman living in bondage.
Ever get the feeling that something very sinister has been let loose in the world? It descended on me about three months ago and I can’t seem to shake it. As for this excellent and important article – I’ve been a fan of yours for a very long time. You have my deep thanks for your very brave and public stance on the evils of shariah as a governing, political doctrine and now you will have my prayers, too.
Omar
I completely empathize. The world has gotten darker and more ominous somehow in the last 12 months, and I sometimes feel I’m living in a science fiction futuristic world going mad.
It’s not even Judge Dredd though, it’s Soylent Green, which really freaks me out.
There is a global NWO/Bilderberg/conspiracy something going on, and I’m scared it’s not paranoia.
We in America sent tens of thousands of our youth to die in Europe in WWI and WWII, wars where Europeans tried to extinguish themselves. And for what? To preseve what? There seems to be a inherent drive among many Europeans to extinguish themselves. The modern day act is to bow to the “ideas” of the east, all to the west’s destruction. The fools of Norway want to silence themselves from critizing Muslim fanatics? They wish to be governed by people who have problems with others who try to stop female genital mutilation? Fine, but we Americans should take great notice. When their “great” civilizations are on the brink once again, from whatever self-imposed threat (Islam, Russia), we should sit it out. In fact, pull our troops out of Germany now. Let the Euro start protecting themselves!
Chilling indeed – that the very target of these islamofacists are aiding and abetting the very forces about to overtake them.
islam (no caps for a minor religion) is a cancer that must be excised from the social body. There is nothing benign about it or the intent of their leaders.
“And this in a supposedly free country.”
Norway prides itself on being a free country? I would have thought ‘freedom’ wasn’t in the top 10 ideals valued in Norway. Maybe not the top 100.
“In other words, it’s illegal just to say certain things.”
Far more frightening is the criminalization of “insulting, hostile, degrading, or humiliating” acts or speech. Clearly this won’t be enforced except for favored groups. I doubt anyone goes through the day without witnessing acts which are “insulting, intimidating, hostile, degrading, or humiliating” to them and through the week without being the subject of acts or speech which are “insulting, intimidating, hostile, degrading, or humiliating.” How many people in Norway have been prosecuted for “insulting, intimidating, hostile, degrading, or humiliating” the USA or American, McDonald’s or Coca-Cola? That’s what I thought.
Otherwise, thanks for your work.
The ideologies and ideologists of which Bawer complains the culmination of over a century of European thought. It and they are the true Norway, the true EU. Let the EU be the EU. Let Norway be Norway. No sense trying to remake EUropeans into Anglo-Saxons; everything: leaders, propaganda, habit, culture, history is against it. It won’t work without a de-Nazification, de-Socialization, de-Communization, de-multiculturalization trials; a thorough and compleat lustration of nearly all EU intellectuals, academics, bureaucrats, politicians, and entertainers. Freedom for others is 100% alien to these people, who can imagine a world only in their own image, ruled by them.
Keep up the good fight Mr. Bawer. The leftist lunatics are being exposed for the weak minded control freaks they are. It’s a slow process… waking up the sleeping giant…. and the leftist intellectuals stand in the way. But there really is no other choice but to defeat these cooks. The alternative is to wake up some fine morning and see that women in our midst are being treated like slaves, and that mean faced old men are barking orders at those of us who shave. Humiliation is the least they deserve.
How do I go about getting my name on that list,Bruce?…sounds like you could use a little company there
I think the author should study the example of Ezra Levant and Mark Steyn (both are in Wikipedia) in Canada. Neither of these witty, brawling authors is afraid of a legal punch-up, and both are capable of putting up a well-funded defence. Steyn & Levant have been able to push the Canadian Human Rights dystopians into a corner, and now others are starting to join them in extremely aggressive debate. Facts alone aren’t enough. A huge amount of emotion has to be focused on the evil that human rights retards are pushing. Levant & Steyn have been masterful at pushing back.
Ezral Levant’s youtube clips where he chewed up and spit out the woman working for the HRC were classic.
I’m afraid the Steyn/Levant model, which reduced the Canadian Human Rights Commissions to the laughingstocks they always were, will not work in Europe. Raw emotion and violence are the hallmarks of how Europe responds to problems. Right now it is cowardice. Tomorrow it will be mass murder of entire Muslim populations, likely directed by the same people now conducting witch trials against critics of Islam. These people will not see the contradiction, just as they segued into support for Hitler to support for Stalin. This is a sad, dark continent populated by people who are either cowering or murdering.
You can overlay a map of the nations that cooperated the most with Hitler and you will find a pattern–the same countries are Muslim Quislings, too. Ironically, I suspect Europe, being Europe, will implement a Final Solution in the end against these same people they now claim to “protect.” Muslim arrogance will be replaced, in the end, by smoke stacks bellowing out their ashes. The European mind is beyond comprehension.
22. Gabriel Ange said,”But the christian countries shuld remove the cross from the schols and even courts of justice”
Gabriel, old chap, with all due respect, you’re not being helpful.
http://www.israelwhat.com/anti-semtic-cartoons-in-the-mainstream-media/
This is truly an ominous development – an assault on freedom so subjective, so Orwellian, that it must be fought with the hard truth:
THE ISLAMIC WORLD WAR
The planet is in the grips of THE ISLAMIC WORLD WAR – Islam against the Jews, the Catholics, the Hindus, the Sikhs, the Buddhists, the Copts, the Chaldeans, the Baha’i, the Zoroastrians, the pagans, the animists, the homosexuals, on every continent but Antarctica. It is Islam against anyone and anything, anywhere that is non-Islamic, and this is undeniable.
THE VICTIMS OF ISLAM
We must recognize that in spite of the centuries of Islamic savagery against the ‘infidel’ world, dar al-Harb, Muslims themselves are the single biggest victims of Muhammeds cult. They are denied the basic human rights of freedom of speech, freedom of concsience, but most importantly the freedom to love.
ISLAM’S DEADLY CATCH-22
Muslims must submit to Islam, which means the cannot question it and cannot leave it. When Muslims become enlightened and do question Islam, or decide to leave Islam, they become subject to the Sharia death fatwa for apostates. Submit and live or leave and die. This is Islam’s deadly catch-22, and a fundamental human rights violation.
ISLAMO DELENDA EST – ISLAM MUST BE DESTROYED
The destruction of Islam is the greatest human rights imperative mankind has ever been called to. Islam must be destroyed to protect the life, liberty and property of the people of the free world, but also to emancipate the millions of decent Muslims who are trapped in this theo-fraudulent-decapitation cult.
HOW DO WE DEFEAT ISLAM?
We defeat Islam by tearing down its foundations of lies by exposing it to the truth.
We expose the ‘holy prophet’ of Islam, Muhammed, as a sadistic sociopath, a murderer, a slaver, a rapist, a torturer, a mutilator, an amputator, a decapitator, a child rapist, a looting thief, a perfidious liar, a human trafficker, a terrorist, a genocidist. We expose Muhammed not as a holy man, but as one of the most vile men in the annals of human history, consumed by unquenchable sexual lust, material greed and sociopathic violence.
We destroy the fallacy of the ‘religion of peace’ by exposing Islam’s universal jihad, THE ISLAMIC WORLD WAR, and its victims. THE ISLAMIC WORLD WAR – inspired by Allah, mandated by Muhammed, and commanded in the Koran.
We expose these things simply by using Islams very own words, from the Koran, the Ahadith, from the life of Muhammed, from the Imams and ayatollahs, and from Sharia law. When the truth about Muhammed, Islamic doctrine and Islamic history is well known and understood, Islam will collapse under the weight of the truth.
We must fight with the power of the truth, the power of the pen, not the sword. But we must be unrelenting, because Islam is unrelenting.
THE ISLAMIC WORLD WAR
ISLAMO DELENDE EST – WITH THE POWER OF THE TRUTH!!
~The Infidel Alliance
It is ironic, Mohammed, in my American history textbooks of yesteryear, and Mohammed as “lawgiver” carved into stone on a frieze of the American Supreme Court Bldg., had far more prestige and credibility on planet Earth before this crowd of Islamists began performing acts of carnage about the world in the name of the Prophet of Islam.
Although terrorist acts were well in evidence prior to 911, that, in particular, moved many of us to find out more about this all-inclusive political and social system (far more than a religion) called Islam.
The upshot of what we’ve learned is eye opening, to put it mildly.
Outstanding. Islam must indeed be destroyed, eradicated from the face of this Earth. Islam is a serial killer of entire peoples, cultures and history.
Everything you said is something that not only needs to be said, but needs to be said again and again. The sad thing is it is all more than obvious to anybody who will just take even a minimally honest look at Islam and the fruits it produces. It is well past time for the West to go on the offensive. No army or, for that matter football team, ever won a contest by playing only defense. No civilization can last without defending itself.
Don’t be too smug Euro-Americans. You are now officially cowards according to your Attorney General. The Democrats routinely evoke race as means to scapegoat whites and in particular white, heterosexual males. Don’t think it can’t happen here.
What I find odd is Norway is not undergoing the same treatment in the money markets that Greece, Spain, and Portugal are undergoing.
Plus, when I look at “How now shall we live” by Chuck Colson, his anecdote about prisoners only being mentally ill in the eyes of one who worked in a Scandinavian prison system (later on, she wound up raped and dead by a prisoner she was escorting), shows how far Antonio Gramsci has influenced swathes of the globe.
Finally, I guess Scandinavian solidarity to coalesce in defense of Kurt Westergaard and the ladies mentioned in the article, will not be as pervasive as I hoped.
North Sea oil. Norway can keep the Ponzi scheme going for a little longer.
The “liberal left” is unfortunately not bright enough to understand the repercussions of their folly.
Maybe this is how great societies implode.
I want to join the Infidel Alliance. Where do I sign.
For instance, this is from the Comments section by a person called “Nancy” referring to the New York Times article, Daring to Discuss Women in Science,” which defended Larry Summers:
“The belief in the genetic inferiority of GROUPS of people should be illegal in the work place under Title VII and Title IX of the Civil Rights Act.
One day it will be, and young women – like Jews and Blacks – will no longer have to be assaulted by bigotry in the work place and in their schools – not to mention in the NYTimes.”
Note the “should be illegal”. This comment received 464 approval recommendations, far more than those in support of the author.
Ignorant question: does “klassekampen” translate as “class warfare”?
I think it was American writer Dan Simmons who, in an anti-dhimmi piece on his website, came in for such similar vicious attacks from the SF community as a racist and the like, he had remarked on his self-admitted Islamophobia (literally a fear of Islam, and yes I fear Islam like any person who values his freedom and even his life) words to the effect of: ‘whatever next? Naziphobia, kidnapperphobia, peodophilephobia?’
This is all beyond satire, you cannot even parody it. As soon as you try or think of some kind of parody, reality crosses that barrier and keeps on pushing further down into a nightmare beyond the worst kind of bad LSD trip. We are in a madhouse and the lunatic liberals are in charge of the asylum. God help us indeed.
European states have had very different reactions to Islamism, though the same PC mentality prevails throughout most of the continent. Norwegians, as with most Scandinavians, are largely the product of one-idea states; there has been one officially sanctioned version of world events and deviating at all from mainstream thought is seen as a type of cultural heresy. At the heart of the matter is a larger problem. Scandinavian countries are largely monocultural and will likely have trouble developing a coherent response to immigration from outside Northern Europe. When you cut through all of the PC Gutmenschen rhetoric, Scandinavians, and I am certainly generalizing here, see themselves as a very distinct group and will allow Moslems to live there as long as what they do remains in their own communities. Being a group of people with a strong sense of belonging has created a culture where group rights trump individual rights i.e. it is acceptable for Moslems living in Norway to maintain a group identity that is at odds with the Norwegian group identity as long as it stays within their group. Any focus on the individual rights of Moslem women to westernize and live the same lifestyle as a Norwegian woman will be fiercely resisted in both groups. This will obviously inhibit integration when both groups view westernized Moslems as a type of aberrant mutation that endangers the “welfare” and “cohesion” of both groups.
Ironically, the outcome is that Moslem women who demand the right to live a lifestyle like their Norwegian counterparts will not be accepted and will be seen as a type of cultural traitor, even though they are just following mainstream Scandinavian views on the place of women in society. I don’t think Scandinavians or many of the immigrants they have accepted are prepared to live outside of monocultural bubbles. Until a response to Islamism that focuses on individual rights instead of group rights emerges in Norway, my guess is that you can expect more of the same for years to come.
What patronizing rubbish. Do Americans have a “coherent response to immigration?” Norwegians are as individualistic as Americans if not more so. They don’t like to whine but you wouldn’t understand that would you. They consider it uncool. They worry about being called racist (actually Nazi since there is some touchy stuff about collaboration all over formerly occupied countries in Europe) just like you do (if your white that is).
You seem to want to whine a bit but don’t really have that much to say. Are you Norwegian then?
Actually what I said is quite accurate. Norwegians have very little variety of opinion in their country. It is a monocultural state and has developed a Weltanschauung that fits their group ethos; that is the main reason that they see nothing wrong with the abuse that goes on in “immigrant communities” within their borders. People, in Norway, belong to their groups before they belong to themselves. Whereas in America it is fully accepted to be a citizen that was born somewhere else, in Norway you are not really allowed to become Norwegian. Keep in mind that when they say “new Norwegians”, they really just mean someone who has travel documents. While they all fear being called racists, it is clear that they will not be able to, oh what’s that phrase, develop a “coherent response to immigration.” America is a land of immigrants where many have come, settled, assimilated, and made their homes because the focus over there is more on individual rights and responsibilities. Monocultural cultures, like that of the Norwegians, will have much more trouble accepting westernized Moslems than Moslems who are still living in the East. They fear perfectly integrated immigrants who speak the language and want to compete with natives for jobs more than those who barely understand Norwegian and work in the toilets. Integration will not happen when a focus on maintaining group habits trumps individual rights.
And yes, I’ve met quite a few Norwegians, and I found quite a few of them whiney and unable to accept a non-Norwegian opinion.
Quislings.
i.e. it is acceptable for Moslems living in Norway to maintain a group identity that is at odds with the Norwegian group identity as long as it stays within their group.
Hasn’t there been some kind of mini-epidemic of Norwegian women being raped by Muslim men, men who assert their superiority that way by degrading the infidel, especially the western dressed woman who attracts and, in their worldview, “deserves” to be raped ?
You’d think even one or two of that kind of incident would bring anyone enmeshed in a respect for “group identity” to their senses.
(correction, above I mentioned Norway in the context of the Nobel prize which PC driven, addled choices in recent decades come from Norway’s neighbor, Sweden)
Actually, whereas the Swedes award the other categories, the peace prize, the most discredited and worthless of the Nobels, is awarded by a committee appointed by the Norwegian parliament. Which parliament has three parties: Left, Far-left, and Kook-left.
Bruce, Norway is a lost cause. Please come to America, where the resistance still has a chance of repulsing the Jihadist tide.
Jeg håper at vi i Norge er så pass våkne nå, at vi gjør motstand og jager denne mafiabanden med hodet ut av landet.Jeg bryr meg ikke om,hvis jeg fornærmer en muslim (det har blitt en del nå) jeg har ikke bedt de hit, men ber de med jevne mellomrom å pakke seg ut av Norge.Alle skulle gjøre det. Det heter jo at enighet gjør sterk.
Yes, your chances of losing your freedom because you spoke against islam are high.
But don’t be confused.
The important thing is that we understand what is happening here.
Freedom can be defended ONLY IF we know FROM WHAT we must defend it.
There are obscure (I mean hidden, I don’t mean “unknown”) forces at work to reshape the world.
These forces hate the Traditional Western civilization and to this goal they want to change the whole fabric of our societies.
They use the leftists and they use the islamists, and they think they can control both.
They use the leftists and they use the islamists because both are totalitarians and both promise to keep the society at bay: therefore the true powers of the world would have only to control the controllers and they would have absolute power.
The sad thing is that is is the same logic that moved history in the last two centuries, but it has gone through a radical mutation. The hidden forces at work to these plans have decided to take complete control of history.
Yes, all this sounds delirious.
But the two last centuries have been abundantly delirious too, haven’t they ?
The real problem with Norway, if anyone’s interested, is that its more feminized than even the United States.
The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence… Boy is it ever, huh Mr. Bawer?
I’d be curious to know if Mr. Bawer is questioning his own radical secularism and strident multiculturalism in light of this development. I know he considers himself a critic of many of the far-left strands of multicultural Marxism which, without much question, invited 30,000,000 deadly Muslim insurgents into Europe’s interior. How can a basically conservative civilization like America be forced to make room “at the table” for a veritable carnival of never-satisfied grievance groups and hyphenated identity groups and not make room for Muslims too, just like Europe? I don’t believe the Mr. Bawers of the world can have it both ways. But after decades of progress on gay issues in a basically decent and tolerant America, the Mr. Bawers and Andrew Sullivans seem more pissed off and dissatisfied than ever.
I’d also like to hear Mr. Bawer’s more recent thoughts on his repudiation of America, (or was it “Amerikkka” back then?). For those who are unaware, Mr. Bawer felt that America had become such an intolerant (of gays) Fundamentalist Christian Hellhole (it was back in the late 90s – that heinous epoch of intolerance under Mr. Clinton – Mr. Bawer was living in the anti-gay gulag of NYC at the time too!), that he decided to head for those greener pastures of Europe. Apparently he met the green Saudi flag and the green Hamas headbands…
Dear ‘Morton Doodslag’,
It’s not important what Mr. Bawer used to think, but rather what he thinks now. He has clearly had his eyes opened wide and now sees the big picture.
We need people like Mr. Bawer, and Islamic apostates like Ayaan Hirsi Ali….hundreds of them…thousands of them…..because there are over a billion Islamists who must be exposed to the hard truth about their ‘prophet’ and their ‘religion’.
There is so much ignorance out there that we must create thousands of informed truth tellers to spread the word and educate ourselves and each other about the truth of Muhammed and Islam.
And I must stress….MUHAMMED IS THE KEY. He set the ‘moral’ foundation for Islam and was personally responsible for establishing violence and savagery as the foundation for Islamic canon, a morality which we all know is completely immoral.
The myth of Muhammed as a ‘holy prophet’ must be pounded to dust. He is the pillar that supports Islam as a ‘religion’, but he is an absolute fraud, nothing more than a successful Charles Manson. If the myth of Muhammed can be destroyed, the pillar cracks and the entire foundation of Islam collapses.
Muslims know this, and they know that his barbarity cannot be reconciled with ANY semblence of modern universal human values. They just cannot admit it under penalty of death. That is why they devolve into raging mobs whenever Muhammed is brought into the public eye. It is the only way they can defend their barbarian prince.
Don’t waste your time and energy criticizing Mr. Bawer, rather help spread the truth about Muhammed and Islam.
Best regards,
~The Infidel Alliance
So we can’t say “Murderous Nazis”?
I thank my lucky stars everyday that my great-grandparents left Norway in the late 1800′s.
Morton,
Try to stay on point. We’re having a discussion here. Make yourself clear.
So discuss. What part of my inquiry is too hard for you to understand?
Norway was occupied once before by a hostile power. It defended itself bravely,
if not well; Are the school children still taught this part of their history ?
Quisling is alive and working for the Jihadists!
You are accepting the official Norwegian line on their resistance to Nazi occupation. Like the French, they put the most positive spin possible on their capitulation. The Norwegians, like the Swedes, were quite content to watch the Germans conquer Europe as long as the Germans left them alone. Alas, Norway, unlike Sweden, turned out to be of too much strategic importance.
Who is the British Daily telegraph columnist arrested over hate speech?
Did I understand this correctly, that omission is a form of harassment. Ergo, if I do not saying anything I could be in trouble. And, if someone (of a protected group) is humiliated because I said nothing, I have broken the law.
Where it like a badge, Bruce! Mark Steyn and Ezra Levant have shown the way. Put them on trial.
Yeah well wear it too. Oops. Going too fast to edit.
You know, the problem is, you have offended the first Muslim POTUS in U.S. history. You also have offended the first modern Marxist POTUS in U.S. history. You have also offended the first social re constructionist supporting dictators around the world while ‘pissing’ on his own country. This movement has waited for decades and it won’t be slowed or it’s course changed without making a scene. And you can bet that people who have a different opinion won’t be tolerated.
This is why I give money to right wing causes.
Don’t whine or fret … give money or organize. Send money especially to the English Defense League. They are on the front lines.
you spoke the truth and people are now hurting you .yes that is how yhe world works but your conscience is clear and your at peace with your self that what matter. so dont get worked up the christian and the jew haters are a law to themselves.I have seen with my eyes what these people do to other nationalities and they make such a noise when we open our mouths .you did a good job.
Why not try to get a few of the islamonazis arrested for some of the racist things they say about Jews? I know, I know, you won’t succeed, but the attempt will at least embarass those Quisling SOB’s and highlight their hypocrisy.
I think some people have tried this approach, but to my knowledge, it hasn’t worked very well. Rioting Moslems have largely been given a pass from Scandinavian governments due to the idea that the elite think they have legitimate rights to be angry. Specifically when it comes to Moslem anti-semitism in Scandinavia, government figures have largely used the occasion to blame Jews and demand that they distance themselves from Israel. One of the most recent cases where this has become clear is in Malmö, Sweden. In response to a large spike in anti-Jewish attacks, the mayer Ilmar Reepalu essentially said it was all Israel’s fault; in other words, Jews are to blame for people hating them. Here is a good summary of the events.
Scandinavians being the typical Gutmenschen that they are refuse to see Moslems as anything other than an oppressed minority. They fail to understand that Moslems are often the oppressors, and that more often than not, when they are oppressed, they are oppressed by other Moslems. It is part of a complex web of socialist tinged ethnic victimology that the vast majority of Scandinavians I’ve met adheres to.
The “dark ages” came to western Europe not because of ‘the collapse of the Roman empire’, as is often thought. The empire continued on just fine in the east. It was the west that lost it all. The dark ages came because Muslim conquerors divide eastern Rome from western Rome, destroying much of western culture in its effort to stamp out ‘non-islamic knowledge’.
Imams are on record as saying “if it is in accordance with Quran it is redundant, and if not it is blasphemous” as part of their edicts to destroy western knowledge.
Muslims are also responsible for the broken-down look of the great Pyramids of Giza. People think the passage of time did it, but around the 13th century there was an edict to destroy them as symbols of ancient non-islamic barbarian culture. They chipped away on the external smooth stone coatings, but after a few decades they lost interest. The pyramids were too big and well built. But the casing stones are gone not because of local re-use or weathering, but because of Islamic decreed destruction.
Ironic and so sad for Bruce that he left America for Norway in search of an enlightened culture in which he could live freely as a gay man. The place to which he fled is now to be fled itself, because its culture has been overrun with the kind of repression that makes American good ole’ boys look like Aristotle and Plato by comparison.
I don’t understand why Norway, and all of Europe really, is so complicit in its own demise? As someone above stated, what do they have to gain by failing and making Islam triumphant?
It’s a fair question. I would say possible answers are:
1) Massive fear;
2) Post-Christian moral relativism; in other words discarding by the Lefties in power of all ‘Judeo-Christian’ ethics;
3) The feeling that by embracing Islam or ‘understanding’ it they score points against conservatives, American and Israel;
4) more fear;
5) Some sort of Nordic Jew-hatred that is pretty prevalent in both Norway and Sweden. Sympathy to Muslims (hopefully) counts as scoring points, an extension of pro-Palestinian sentiments.
For many Europeans, the animus to Jews runs quite deep.
David Lincoln, the country of Norway is wealthy enough in minerals to create a national trust fund worth about $80,000 per citizen. Countries like Greece, Spain and Portugal lack natural resources equivalent to Norway’s.
Seems the whole world has gone mad at once. Beware the Sharia Industrial Complex
” For in addition to their boobishness and their psychoses, the anti-Semites posses another quality that raises them out of their clown category. They have numbers; and where there are numbers there are politicians.
There is no cause so low, no slogan so vile but it will find leaders to champion it. And not necessarily leaders without brains, not necessarily leaders as oafish as the rag-tag they command. For in our Democracy there are men of talent and wit ready to pretend to unreason if it will get them anywhere. There are always egoists ready to shelve their honor and sanity for the sake of shining with any sort of leadership.
These beggars of politics who go pawing the city dumps in quest of riches are all of a piece, and as obvious as a paper hat. They are the raucous egos who lack the patience or talent to angle among the sane for their admirers. They come haunting the sand-box of the aberrated. Some of them, to be sure, are as goony and loony as any of their followers and are not to be distinguished by sound or look from the ninnies and invalids who caper their ranks. But many more of them are cynical rogues who devote themselves deliberately to the traffic in human passions. They set themselves shrewdly to aggravating the prejudice around them for no other reason than it is easier to lead people who have lost their heads than those who have kept them.”
” There is no arguing with these unscrupulous day-dreamers, nor enlightening them. If killing Jews ( or grandmothers ) is the road to power they will take it and be proud of their progress. They do not care that their activities are capable of changing a fair country into a foul land. The land will not be foul to them if they sit high in it. ”
Ben Hecht , A Guide for the Bedevilled, 1944
It forbids “harassment on the grounds of ethnicity, national origin, ancestry, skin color, language, religion, or beliefs,” and, in turn, defines harassment as “actions, omissions, or utterances [my emphasis] that have the effect or are intended to have the effect of being insulting, intimidating, hostile, degrading, or humiliating.”
by these laws it should be very easy to entirely BANISH and persecute MUSLIMS- their enitire faith is built upon discrimination and persecution of any non MUSLIMS- by this law the KORAN is illegal as hate speech, it promotes violence on others by gender and faith. It advocates humiliation of any non Muslim. By this law every single IMAM should be arrested and every mosque closed down. Bt this law the gangs of Muslim youth who cat-call in the streets and make verbal threats should be arrested. The groups of Muslim who shout out the police and reporters from their enclaves can be prosecuted.
NORWAY————–FIGHT BACK using this very law meant to silence you..turnabout is FAIR PLAY (another concept of our world MUSLIMS do not know)
In Norway and the Netherlands, there is a backlash going on: the Progress Party in Norway, and Wilders’ Party in the Netherlands. As long as those parties are not banned, there is room for free speech. I think there is hope in France and Italy, as well: it seems to me that most French and Italian people don’t even know what relativism means, and those who know it, think it is funny. If people like Fallaci go on trial, at least it’s a trial by the rule of law, unlike in Canada. I don’t know about Australia, but it’s Britain and Canada that I most worry about; and Sweden too, but Sweden does not really matter, I guess.
Mr. Bawer, it seems like a good time to return to the US. At least here you won’t be hauled into court for telling the truth.
Not yet. If Obama has his way, the US will head down the same road.
Well, there are quite a few million of us who are mad as h*ll and won’t let Obooby have his way.
“The question is: what comes next? ”
A return to America, with you and your spouse settling in a state that recognizes gay marriage.
I have no doubt that it is not your perfect solution, but it’s sure preferable to being jailed in Norway — where I’m sure a lot of the inmates are Muslim.
Islam teaches that all Kufars (infidels, christians, jews) are not equal to muslims, if an islamic state, we would have to convert, accept their rule, pay tax and become dhimmies, or die.
And if we react, then WE are rasist?!
Bruce,
Just show the Marxist in Europe this web site, which as a few choice words for the religion of peace. Or, just show my posts for the last year on Islam, and watch them get their pink panties in a bunch.
What happen to you Vikings up there? Is everyone wearing pink dresses?
Who is the Daily Telegraph columnist referred to in this post (the one “arrested on charges of hate speech for having written negatively about Islam”)?
The answer is obvious, if you dont want to be hated and persecuted then get a scarf , preferably one with checkered background, wear a toga, grow a bear and then you will not only be NOT hated but treated as a protected species.
You will get preferential treatment, you can always yell hate crime, whenever you don’t get your way and you will get frequent breaks at work, just pretend to pray often, and carry a stick in case the women get out of line!
Didn’t Bruce move to Norway to escape from the less tolerant, in his eyes, US? How’s that working out?
Study the US Civil Rights movement of the 60′s. YOU CLEARLY HAVE THE MORAL HIGH GROUND – FREDOM OF SPEECH. You must over whelm the system with non-violent protests where the entire world sees your governments beating and arresting you for the “grave offense” of free speech. They will NOT be able to withstand the heat. Flood jail after jail in city after city with arrests. Refuse to pay the fines. Make them haul you into court and waste its resources on these frivilous attempts to silence you. Every time a murderer or rapists walks free publicize aggressively the waste of resources spent persecuting you that should have been spent keeping them in jail. The sick progressive political experiment must be resisted and stopped.
“When injustice becomes law; resistance becomes duty.” – Thomas Jefferson
If you do not have the courage to stand up against those who call you a bigot or a racist when will you have the courage to fight them in the streets when you wake up and find that you are no longer free?
What the self-appointed guardians of multicultural “harmony” in the West fail to understand is:
~the aim of Islam is fanatical anti-multiculturalism.
And the installation of an intolerant, misogynistic, anti-gay, anti-freedom, dogmatic,
theocratic totalitarian monocultural tyranny.
The ignorant leftist buffoons, swaddled in their unhistorical European delusion about Mohammadism, who see any opposition to a supposed “minority” (all 1.2 billion of them) as “racist” are selling their hard-won birthright of human rights and liberty and equality for a mess of political correct suicide.
Islam has contempt for them.
But will use their imbecilic idealism to gain power.
And will then relegate these witless idiots to well-deserved dhimmi ghettos.
Where they can bewail their studious blindness about Islam for degraded millennia.
#59 Carol . In answer to your question .IMHO the basic causes for European complicity are guilt, fear and cowardice. I have seen several comments pointing a finger at political correctness and without a doubt this phenomenon is based totally on those 3 basic behaviors.
There is apparently in modern Europe a complete lack of bravery , conviction and courage. It sounds sorta old fashioned and uncool to use such words but they convey real and genuine qualities . Qualities so essential that when they are missing, societies collapse and purposeless beliefs prevail. Alas Norway, alas Europe.
Umm… does that mean if I “attack” a convicted murderer I’m committing hate speech? *Shivers*
Damn. What is society coming to?!
Followers of the Mohammedan faith do not belong to a single race, just as those of the Christian faith belong to all races. The so-called anti-racial discrimination edicts bear oddly shaped ecumenical arms in their attacks against critics of Mohammedan practices.
Likewise, construed under the same non-discrimination theory, wouldn’t proponents of separation of church and state have to remain speechless in their criticism of religion, particularly when exposing its nefarious effect on government? Wouldn’t the term “theocrats” used disparagingly meet their test of “harassment”?
Ought the thought police compel everyone to remain silent about the Islamic republics constitutionally founded upon shari’a?
What comes next is the mustering of a crusade in which we need not travel beyond our own borders.
Whatever passes for a conservative or centrist party in Norway ought to start demanding passage of a new law similar to the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
Better yet, parties for free speech should start publicly and vociferously demanding new legislation making it a serious crime to threaten freedom of speech (except for shouting “fire” in crowded theaters, etc.). Those who do threaten free speech should be subject to jail terms and substantial fines. The penalties should be designed to put at risk any political parties, including the leftists described by Bawer, abusing their positions and using their powers to try to kill free speech. Let’s see if their own medicine tastes good to those leftists trying to make others drink it. Such penalties should also include any imam who makes even implied threats against those who speak freely.
In addition, the Norwegian and European publics should demand that their governments issue international arrest warrants for any clerics or imams who issue death fatwas against writers, artists, politicians, feminists, intellectuals, etc. Those imams should be locked up until they publicly retract the fatwa, apologize, and denounce as criminals and immoral any imams passing such fatwas, and any Muslims trying to carry them out. Of course Europe is still a distance, shall we say, from pursuing any such suggestions as these.
Non-Muslims in Europe and elsewhere must become unapologetic in their determination to pass legislation that punishes all persons and dissolves all organizations that seek to further Islam’s political ambitions. Islam can remain as a private faith, but non-Muslims must make it illegal to support or act on Islamic doctrine’s political elements that seek to spread Islamic law.
And until Islamic countries show reciprocity by permitting the building of churches, synagogues, temples, etc., non-Muslims should be unapologetic in demanding of non-Muslim governments the end of immigration from Muslim countries to the West.
The same for the apostasy laws of Islam: until Muslim nations guarantee and enforce the right to leave Islam, Muslims must not be permitted to immigrate to the West. Until there is religious freedom in Muslim nations, Muslims who are in the West and are not citizens must be shipped home within a few months’ deadline. To the extent that breaks promises made to them under earlier immigration laws, legislatures can arrange to compensate them, within reason, financially.
“…the basic causes for European complicity are guilt, fear and cowardice. I have seen several comments pointing a finger at political correctness and without a doubt this phenomenon is based totally on those 3 basic behaviors.
There is apparently in modern Europe a complete lack of bravery , conviction and courage. It sounds sorta old fashioned and uncool to use such words but they convey real and genuine qualities . Qualities so essential that when they are missing, societies collapse and purposeless beliefs prevail. Alas Norway, alas Europe.”
And into this breach you see nationalist movements step, and they do somewhat okay at conveying a sense of legitimacy, and then they, ultimately, end up in uneasy coalitions with others.
Scandanavian nationalism is a relatively rare phenomenon, but what could trigger a resurgence of it in Norway is decline in the standard of living coupled with a rise in immigrants. From what I’ve seen, Europe isn’t ready to be a diverse melting pot yet, but diverse it is getting, and fast. Something about an aging population that eschewed having children in the 1970s and 1980s perhaps?
“It forbids “harassment on the grounds of ethnicity, national origin, ancestry, skin color, language, religion, or beliefs,” and, in turn, defines harassment as “actions, omissions, or utterances [my emphasis] that have the effect or are intended to have the effect of being insulting, intimidating, hostile, degrading, or humiliating.””
Well, this would make calling someone an “infidel” illegal, wouldn’t it?
What worries me a lot about the paragraph above is how the word “ommissions” could be interpreted…
Not looking quite so tolerant over there is it Bruce?
What I don’t understand about Norway: They are leaders in feminism. They’re in the top 4 countries for women’s rights!
How can a country with this level of consciousness about women allow the worst destroyers of women’s rights to rot Norway’s priorities from within?
It is time to employ the same methods that all these leftist movements.
First, include people who are fighting against the Islamization of the West within our NGOs.
Then, create a system of financial resources that will support concerted action.
Finally, make systematic reference to hate speech and freedom-of Islam and bring charges against their perpetrators.
It would be fun to write a manifesto, repeating word for word, some verses of the Quran by interchanging the words … Christians, Jews, Muslims. Just for laugh
Norway is doomed anyway. I suggest to all Europeans who still want any measure of freedom to find a nice spot somewhere off the continent, settle it and impose very harsh immigration policies. This may help for a few years.
So – I take it you all were horrified at the Thomas lynching?
The things said about Muslims on this thread are far worse than anything uttered by Thomas – with whom I agree.
The BBC correspondent on FOX said it best “it appears Thomas would have fared better had she shot 9 Turks in the head at close range”.
Oh – that’s right Turks don’t count. And, Jews don’t control the government and economy of Germany, Poland and the USA….
what a bunch of loons….. can you say LOONIE TOONS??
How can you confuse a business’s right to fire an employee with a government’s right to prosecute? If I work in an ice cream parlor and tell an obese customer she should stick to yogurt I can get fired. Free speech doesn’t protect me from that, it protects me from jail time for saying someone’s fat. Helen Thomas can be as offensive as she wants, and has been for many years, without fear her government will lynch her. That cannot be said of many Sharia governed countries. And if Thomas had shot anyone in the head that were beating her with pipes or stabbing her with knives then yes, she would have been ok.
Well, how is that moving to be in a “more liberal” country working out for you…perhaps now people are starting to see how “liberalism” really works.
But in the past, didn’t you Mr. Bawer treat any Conservative stance on homosexuals as homophobic and therefore “evil”? Please correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that why you originally moved to Europe?
So now it appears that your chickens are coming home to roost. You hurled nothing but invective towards traditionalist Christians and other Conservatives, but now that the same progressive mindlessness has you squarely between its sights, you suddenly oppose totalitarian political correctness. How does it feel? More importantly, is it logical, does it make any sense? Will you ever admit to the insanity inherent in your own position? Since lies, double standards, and cognitive dissonance are inherent to and the basis of progressivism, I would hazard a guess that the answer is “No, never”.
How can a country (Norway) with this level of consciousness about women allow the worst destroyers of women’s rights to rot Norway’s priorities from within?
Because just as in Canada and England (and to a growing extent, America) ideological positioning trumps values.
Setting themselves up to be perceived as good “multiculturalists”, feminists are barred from condemning the horrific treatment of women in Islam and are forced to remain mute on topics like female genital mutilation, honor killings, and forced marriage.
Cultural practices (apparently no matter how horrific) must be respected at all costs, n’est-ce pas ?
It’s a style thing, if you will. They’re caught behind a rock and a hard place and the hard place wins.
In the 19th century (hell, throughout most of the 20th) people weren’t afflicted by all this profoundly ignorant political correctness.
“When I…examine the Koran, I know that beyond any question every Mohammedan is insane, not in all things, but in religious matters. I cannot prove to him that he is insane, because you never can prove anything to a lunatic — for that is a part of his insanity and the evidence of it.”
~Mark Twain
Bruce, you are joining the club. I am also one of those persecuted by those fighting the right to Freedom of Speech. My charge is “Speaking the truth about Islam” (inciting to hatred, according to this wonderful law), and one cannot do that in Austria. You can bash Christians all you want, but Islam is above the law. The world has become a mad place with mad inhabitants.
Europe is doomed and is entering a new dark age that will rival the Middle Ages and the Third Reich. In the dark ages, to be called a “heretic” or “witch” was a charge for which you were guilty until proven innocent, and for which you would be tortured then burned at the stake. The 21st century equivalent in Europe is to be called a racist or Islamophobe. Now you are hauled before a human rights commission then stripped of your job or jailed. It is only a matter of time before offense to Islam in Europe will get you hauled before a Shariah court then slowly decapitated for blasphemy. The US is headed down this road. The only hope for our children to live in freedom is to somehow separate from the jihadists and their leftist enablers.
You can’t have it both ways Mr. Bawer. We are either free to speak our minds about things we disagree with (such as homosexuality, Islam…etc) or we aren’t. It’s that simple.
Know this: Islam is not a religion; it is a political ideology pretending to be a religion. It is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Beware.
Yes, yes, this has been going on for some time now and will continue until either Islam is the protected supremacist ideology mandated by law which everyone must submit to or people revolt. It’s that simple. The only news I’m interested in hearing about from Europe any more regarding matters like this is that the leftist political commissars were found hanging from the nearest lamp pole after they tried to drag Dagmar in for his “racism trial”. If Euros don’t have the stomach for it, then they should just get their wives and daughters fitted for their burkhas and be done with it.
Bruce, you have my utmost sympathy. I have to say though that this is exactly what the gay rights lobby have done to suppress their critics: use the concept of supposed “hate speech” to criminalise those who speak the truth. It’s awful when the boot is on the other foot, and the solution has to be scrap all of these laws and let any lifestyle or religion be manifest for what it is – good or bad.
Quisling ain’t dead, evidently.
Please keep up the good work Mr. Bawer
I think we need more clarification about the legal aspects. The law uses the word “utterances” which I thought was verbal speech. Perhaps the prohibition applies only to people who say things out loud. What are the Norwegian laws protecting written speech–if any? Does it differentiate between verbal and written? Maybe the author is worrying prematurely. In any case, I do agree with his alarm.
Use the same laws against the Islam. File a case of hateful lessons that mullahs are giving to young muslim children to hate kuffar, pagans, jews and christians. it would be worth a fight.
You rarely hear the world’s PC crowd condemning things like the brainwashing being done on 3 year old children in Gaza. The cartoons subtly (and not so subtly) grooming them for suicide missions or teaching them how to throw stones at Jews, preparing for life’s later tasks, like lobbing missiles and rockets into Israel.
You don’t hear much of the PC crowd complaining about what is being done to young boys in Pakistan, making them sit in rows day after day, memorizing the Koran in a language they don’t even speak, Arabic. The alleged sexual abuse these boys are subjected to by their Muslim “teachers” is swept under the rug.
You don’t hear a lot of objections from the PC crowd about how young boys are exploited by their older handlers, drawn into committing violent acts with promises of having sex in Paradise.
The UN, famously or infamously pretending to be engaged in “the rights of the child”, is one of the more egregiously hypocritical bodies on matters like this. The Islamic lobby is now, reportedly, that organization’s largest voting bloc and they’ve pretty much succeeded in turning the place into one giant anti-Israel rally.
The double standards thrown down by people who are self=-righteously in our faces with political correctness are staggering.
David W. Lincoln has trouble reading and interpreting texts: he has conflated individuals with opposite ideologies, both mentioned in Coulson’s book.
A Norwegian prison psychologist made the statement to Coulson that “Anyone who commits a violent crime is obviously mentally unbalanced.” Whereas the guard who was murdered a few days later, actually praised Coulson, saying to him while referring to his visit that she “… prayed for this day, when these men would be confronted with a solid message of sin and salvation.” Two different people, in other words.
Although Lincoln’s distorted version makes for a good story, he should not diddle with the facts, if only out of respect for the guard. She, by the way, decidedly did not want to go out on her errand alone with her murderer-to-be – she was afraid of him, and was forced to take on the escort job alone by prison officials, who insisted that she needed to “confront her fears”. Needless to say, that ridiculous policy was reexamined – all too late to save the poor woman.
How could such a state of affairs develop, one might ask? Norwegian prisons policy over the past several decades has been heavily influenced by a coterie of radical sociologists and criminologists centered at the University of Oslo. Their intellectual spawn have proliferated and spread out: one even taught for years at the police training school. Generally, they take the view that criminals have no personal responsibility for their own actions – crime is seen as a function of the class struggle. Therefore, society is to blame for crime, and the convicted (actually victims of the system in this analysis) should be treated as leniently as public opinion will allow. With such thinking, one is liable to spend more time in prison for crimes against the state (embezzling public funds – 7½ years – to name a recent example) than for murder.
You could justifiably say that the views of Norwegian rulers and most of what passes for an intellectual class in Norway are informed by a deadly mix of Marx and Disney. And thus the mess that Mr Bawer describes here.
And what of David Irving, Germar Rudolph and Mr. Zundel?
I don’t hear any of you complaining that Jews in Europe have criminalized speech that questions the number of dead Jews in WWII.
What’s it called “defaming the dead”???
hypocrites…. as usual.
And, um, if you really want some hate speech – read the TALMUD!
It’s positively bursting with ways to screw the GENTILES… I mean, it’s your DUTY to lie cheat and steal from them…. what fun!
This seems almost as a culmination of Europe’s environment since the end of WWII, where countries have tried to regulate actual hate speech, for instance the illegality of Nazi memorabilia. Inevitably, such restrictions end up becoming broader. This is an issue where I think the slippery slope is a real risk (it often is not), because speech is so subjective and difficult to categorize. Yesterday it was Nazi memorability ans swastikas you couldn’t have, today you cannot write critically about Islam.
It’s also an issue I am glad to live in America, where the burden is very high for restricting speech, at least legally. Sure, there is political correctness about, but it mostly stays in the private sphere where it belongs. In this country we can have both Revolution Muslim espousing their nonsense and others free to condemn them for it. The benefit is that we get to know who the crazies are relatively easily when they don’t regulate their own speech.
Lots of room for more Norskis up here in SE Alaska. No restrictions on carry, either. Bring plenty of tangoes, open season on undesirable exotics.
Perhaps they should take a leaf out of your blog (if not book) and simply deport you back to the US where you are quite free to express these views without the threat of prosecution
Dear Bruce,
Please don’t be saddened too much over your country denouncing you: “even one just voice is a moral majority”.
In case you feel, like many in the 1930s in Europe felt, that darkness is about to take over and that there’s nothing you can do about it in Norway – you can always seek political asylum in ISRAEL, a solid democracy with an amazing level of freedom of speech, that even subsidizes a variety of opinions, including anti-Israeli opinions!
Surely you can work here freely, in the Jewish “land of the free and home of the brave”, and save yourself from dark regimes like the extreme-left radicals / Islamo-Fascist governments of many European countries!
Bizarre?
Not as much as the virtual reality Europe (and some in the US) live in…
I’m also wonder who the Daily Telegraph columnist is? I think Rod Liddle was accused for Islamophobic hate speech… or? I don’t remember it very well, and he’s at Spectator, not Daily Telegraph…
Free speech is definitely on decline. People in academics in e g Netherlands and France are attacked, and e g artist like Swedish Lars Vilks and Dutch Gregorius Neckshot. Many artists claim they are now more or less self-censored.
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Btw, a few years ago I was accused of being an Islamophobic blogger in a Magazine runned by a Swedish anti-racist and anti-semitic organization. It made me depressed, since I thought I supported Expo (and I still think I do in many ways). The organization, Expo, seems to have too many leftist people now, but they are supported by all political parties. What they did against me is scary! They don’t care that I assure them I think all their major tasks in their organization is good and that I’ve supported them (but also that I think they have a flawed and dangerous strategy) and that don’t even support the party Sverigedemokraterna (which I think is too far right and racist). They don’t answer mails with this information and my ask for explanation and apology. Shall I take them to court?! Give a lawyer the opportunity to charge an anti-racist organization as totalitarians in a libel trial… Is that possible? The accusation by Expo, and their strategy to accuse critics of immigration, is plain stupidity!
A problem is that real racists and hate mongering towards Muslims, on one hand, and those with wise notes about the current situation, on the other hand, are not divided. I think both fundamentalist Muslims and real racists benefits from this. Fundamentalist Muslims can enter the political spere and establishment, since not positive words about even fundamentalist Islam is Islamophobia. Far right racists are legitimized as ordinary critics of immigration policy. This lack of division two former Expo members has in a new book, “Ut ur skuggan”. Muslims fundamentalists will enter Parliament this year as members of Sweden’s currently largest political party. A center-right party. Sound criticism of radical Islam is most often depicted Islamophobia and racism, no matter how balanced it is, and I’m described as almost a Nazi collaborator by Expo, despite I’ve always been and will continue to be an anti-racist pro-Semite. I think the problem at least partly is caused by modern social science dialectics, and thus relativism (but one has to be aware that also intellectuals in the far right movement has similar criticism, from their far right positions).
Conclusion: Society must start to divide critics of the religion Islam, and real racists who are very aggressive against Muslims. One reason that it isn’t — besides reasonable scare that far right successfully profits from anti-Muslim propaganda — may be (a hypothesis) a discourse based dialectical progress of reason in academics, as well as in the public political sphere. It started with sociology? Now intertwined with an abundance of fields where majority judgment beats skepticism and real knowledge.
(I’m sure we soon will have the scientific branch of Islamophobia, with its social construction = BS. Gah!)
Btw, In the book “Ut ur skuggan”, by two recently Expo members, Islamophobia is explained as more or less a social disorder. They mix this with comments about e g the very intolerant Swedish immigration policy (which happens too be the most generous in the West), and other erroneous statements that doesn’t need correction — the important thing is that there is consensus about the (wrong) “facts” within the discourse of theirs, which happens to be the discourse of the political establishment, media etc.
But I think this has its origin at Universities with post-modern methodology, Marxism etc.
As a Swede and familiar with Norway it was quite disturbing to read this piece. But, it seems to me that Bawers reactions are a little bit over the edge.
After visiting the HRS web site (http://www.rights.no/publisher/publisher.asp?id=1), it is easy to understand why the leftist Norwegian government try to find excuses to stop funding them. No one in Norway will stop Bawer to express his opinions (and I can assure you, neither put him in jail), but they may stop sponsoring them. To be sponsored is by the way, not a democratic right, especially if it is contradictory to the intentions of the democratically elected government.
You may think that the intentions of the Norwegian government are crazy (in which I do comply with Bawer), but that is a completely different issue which should be decided by the Norwegian voters..
Oh mr. Bawer, please please please feel freee to stop accepting my governments money and go back to the states where you belong. Then you can don the mantle of the martyr and tewll all the sad story about how you got discriminated for suggesting that the european armies should be turned on their own citizens in a religious civil war. How you were cruely cheated out of norwegian taxmoney (while of course refusing to get norwegian citizenship) just because the damn lefties didnt like you spreading hatespeech about a religious minority. And we are finaly rid of you. Everybody wins!
“My governments money”???
I pay taxes to this leftist government (Do you, by the way?), only to see the money systematicaly being put into ANTI-DEMOCRATIC leftist schemes, like for instance the Norwegian press-support (tax-payer funded support for not interesting, not market-viable, mostly left-wing newspapers), and huge amounts paid for left-wing pro-immigration NGOs like ARS, OMOD, SOS-rasisme, NOAS, and so on.
We are also blessed with a 400 USD annual obligatory payment for NRK, the norwegian public broadcasting, that has an overwhelmingly leftist representation among journarlists.
So, “Norwegian”: It is not your governments money.
It is the TAX PAYING MANS GOD DAMN MONEY.
That Mr.Bawer/HRS can get some few pennies of it, is only just starting to make sense in a totally unbalanced, elite-ridden, left wing, non-democratic system.
My fellow countryman, you may have your own opinion about the norwgian tax-system, since you like me pay money into it. But dont you find it ironic that mr. Bawer is an employee of the very same state that he so roundly condemns? That he, and his fellow HRS members pretend to work in cooperation with the socialists while at the same time trying to subvert the policies of the chosen government wich pays them? Their position would be much more honest if they were not playing the double game of leeching of the state while condemning it. (A government wich has won two elections, mind you Laura.)
And seriously, if you live in my country as well, can you buy mr. Bawers fantasy tales from Norway about a muslim infested dhimmi country? I live in Tøyen, the most muslim-heavy part of Oslo, and while there is certainly some youthcrime it is in no way dangeroous to walk there at any time of the night. Im sick and tired of this fat f**k sitting in my country, living on my taxdollars, slandering my country.
Thank you for speaking up for more than yourself
The question is why has the left-wing fascist minority been allowed to take control and place a stranglehold on western society’s. The fascist left needs to be stripped of its power everywhere throughout western nations.
Norwegian:
“Oh mr. Bawer, please please please feel freee to stop accepting my governments money and go back to the states where you belong. Then you can don the mantle of the martyr and tewll all the sad story about how you got discriminated for suggesting that the european armies should be turned on their own citizens in a religious civil war . . .”
Wow, that’s some red herring you’ve got there! On the other hand, maybe Bawer’s just sick of being expected to stand by in abject silence while you elitist idiots kowtow to a theofascist honor culture that tramples on the rights of women and gays.
That should have read “societies”.
Within my lifetime, or certainly my son’s, the people of Western Europe are gong to face a very hard decision. Submit to Sharia, or extirpate Islam from their lands. Will the effete sitzpinklers of Northern Europe, in particular, have the guts?
I don’t think it will ever come to that in the US. Before it does, the likes of Mullah Krekar will be found with their severed heads on pikes outside their own mosques, with pork sausages stuffed in their mouths.
I am a citizen of Norway. I think we should ban all muslims from the coming into this country. We have enough already. The ones that are here should be deported. Just as Germany outlaws Nazis because they are violent, so should we outlaw Islam…..it is violent wherever it goes.
They get along with no one, be it Jew, Christian, Jain, Hindu, Buddhist, Animist, Atheist or whatever. I say go home.
Dear #112 ‘manno’,
You have hit the nail squarely on the head. Islam gets along with no one, because the prime directive of Islam is to exterminate or extinguish all non-Islamic cultures and religions. It says so right here:
Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle Muhammed said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’
Koran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”
Koran (61:4) – “Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way”
Koran (9:5) – “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.”
Koran (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle Muhammed said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”
Fighting…killing….subjugating….everyone, anything, everywhere that is non-Islamic.
~ The Infidel Alliance
Hitchens fighting cancer. Bawer facing charges? What’s next?
My wife and I just returned from Europe (i.e., London, Paris, vicinity of Switzerland, and Brussels. Our friend in London (an Italian) and several people in Paris confirmed the problems discussed by Mr. Bawer and then some. I have many friends who call themselves Muslims (our friends from Brussels are from Turkey but I suspect they are nonbelievers — the subject has never come up) but only some of whom could be called Muslims by an reasonable definition of the word. These people are more like many Americans who call themselves Christian by default, because that is the majority religion that has informed their culture and their concept of God. They are all essentially “freelance monotheist.” who celebrate Eid like we celebrate Thanksgiving. The fact is that the majority of the people on this planet, including such freelance monotheists have no real appreciation for those that take their religion seriously. The truth is that many moderates who claim to speak for Islam refuse to discuss the dark side of this belief system. They painfully attempt to obscure plain truths. Where they cannot, they remain silent. However, they cannot condemn the dark parts of Islam, because to do so would be to deny the perfection of Islam. Judaism and Christianity, due to the fact that they derive from multiple, sometimes contradictory scriptures that were at best inspired by God, have done a better job at developing sophisticated theological arguments to allow believers to disavow the dark stuff. Due to the fact that Islam is a single scripture representing a single revelation to one prophet by God himself (via an angelic conduit), it seems unlikely that Muslims will be able to develop more humanist interpretations of the dark scriptures. In short, it seems impossible to deny Islam in part without a significant degree of cognitive dissonance.
Bruce, you have done your part. Time to return home where the dream is still alive.
You just may want to return home to what’s left of the Land of the Free…..while we still have a few freedoms left.