Comments on: It’s Not Over: What About the Rest of the Hostages in Somalia? http://pjmedia.com/blog/its-not-over-what-about-the-rest-of-the-hostages-in-somalia/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:46:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ship Broking http://pjmedia.com/blog/its-not-over-what-about-the-rest-of-the-hostages-in-somalia/#comment-1292500 Ship Broking Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:45:45 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=52990#comment-1292500 InterManager, the international trade association for the ship management industry, is delighted to welcome Bibby Ship Management Ltd to its membership. InterManager, the international trade association for the ship management industry, is delighted to welcome Bibby Ship Management Ltd to its membership.

]]> By: Marie Claude http://pjmedia.com/blog/its-not-over-what-about-the-rest-of-the-hostages-in-somalia/#comment-242946 Marie Claude Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:45:26 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=52990#comment-242946 "No one is going to help us except maybe the UK and Russia." have you heard of them lately ? not me, any question ? “No one is going to help us except maybe the UK and Russia.”

have you heard of them lately ?

not me, any question ?

]]> By: Alex http://pjmedia.com/blog/its-not-over-what-about-the-rest-of-the-hostages-in-somalia/#comment-242003 Alex Wed, 15 Apr 2009 07:15:15 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=52990#comment-242003 They are freeking pirates...not underprivileged economically disadvantaged seaborne indigenous peoples. They are found with RPG's, etc on their ship, skiff, or raft, let them swim back to shore. They try to take a ship, blow them out of the water, end of story. Shipping companies need to arm ships and accept help from security forces; private of govt, whatever. Pacifism only works to embolden groups like this. When piracy is no longer profitable, it will cease. How much have shipping companies and govts already paid out in ransom.....all they have done is provide recruitment incentives as somali's see pirates retiring at age 20. It was incredibly shortsighted to pay ransom, there is a reason Nations dont negotiate with terrorists or pirates. They are freeking pirates…not underprivileged economically disadvantaged seaborne indigenous peoples.

They are found with RPG’s, etc on their ship, skiff, or raft, let them swim back to shore. They try to take a ship, blow them out of the water, end of story. Shipping companies need to arm ships and accept help from security forces; private of govt, whatever. Pacifism only works to embolden groups like this. When piracy is no longer profitable, it will cease.

How much have shipping companies and govts already paid out in ransom…..all they have done is provide recruitment incentives as somali’s see pirates retiring at age 20. It was incredibly shortsighted to pay ransom, there is a reason Nations dont negotiate with terrorists or pirates.

]]> By: Duane Phinney http://pjmedia.com/blog/its-not-over-what-about-the-rest-of-the-hostages-in-somalia/#comment-241668 Duane Phinney Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:45:19 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=52990#comment-241668 The only reason Thomas Jefferson started the US navy was to combat pirates. He must be turning over in his grave. Russia offered to go in with us and clean the rats nests out. No one is going to help us except maybe the UK and Russia. This is just the beginning, as the UN and international law experts have given the pirates a green light to go ahead. They have ruled pirates can only be arrested if they are caught in the act. Old Europe is worried about violating the human rights of the pirates, whatever that means. Muslims are using our own laws to defeat us. Political correctness and newspeak will destroy us all. The only reason Thomas Jefferson started the US navy was to combat pirates. He must be turning over in his grave. Russia offered to go in with us and clean the rats nests out. No one is going to help us except maybe the UK and Russia.

This is just the beginning, as the UN and international law experts have given the pirates a green light to go ahead. They have ruled pirates can only be arrested if they are caught in the act. Old Europe is worried about violating the human rights of the pirates, whatever that means. Muslims are using our own laws to defeat us. Political correctness and newspeak will destroy us all.

]]> By: Mark in Dayton http://pjmedia.com/blog/its-not-over-what-about-the-rest-of-the-hostages-in-somalia/#comment-241657 Mark in Dayton Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:29:47 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=52990#comment-241657 This has been an excellent thread. This has been an excellent thread.

]]> By: Paul -Indiana http://pjmedia.com/blog/its-not-over-what-about-the-rest-of-the-hostages-in-somalia/#comment-241653 Paul -Indiana Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:22:12 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=52990#comment-241653 Those countries which have their citizens [subjects?] held as hostages should lead the effort. Are those people worth enough to their governments? Those countries which have their citizens [subjects?] held as hostages should lead the effort. Are those people worth enough to their governments?

]]> By: Bilgeman http://pjmedia.com/blog/its-not-over-what-about-the-rest-of-the-hostages-in-somalia/#comment-241540 Bilgeman Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:36:13 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=52990#comment-241540 #48:PatriotUSA: "Bilgeman, any comments on reports that I have heard about the Alabama asking for help days before this incident really blew up and Captain Phillips was taken hostage?" I kinda doubt it, frankly, our intelligence resources among the pirate community of Puntland can't be all that and a bag of chips. And if these boys were operating from a mothership, then it's likely they were analogous, (roughly), to the whaling ships of an earlier century...all about getting into the migration routes and then keeping a lookout for targets of opportunity. If Maersk Alabama asked for any kind of assistance, it's likely that it was far too late, help was too far away, and that they were already being chased. They were between 200 and 300 nautical miles off the coast, so they were already "sailing prudently". "Again, arming you all would certainly put a serious tactic in your hands that would well put a stop to much of this piracy that has gone on for far too long. I have contacted my legislators about your suggestion." Hey, I really appreciate that. The Somali boys have been in it for the dough, but over in the Straits of Mallacca, those lads get NASTY, and it gets pretty lonely out there in constricted waters. #48:PatriotUSA:
“Bilgeman, any comments on reports that I have heard about the Alabama asking for help days before this incident really blew up and Captain Phillips was taken hostage?”

I kinda doubt it, frankly, our intelligence resources among the pirate community of Puntland can’t be all that and a bag of chips.
And if these boys were operating from a mothership, then it’s likely they were analogous, (roughly), to the whaling ships of an earlier century…all about getting into the migration routes and then keeping a lookout for targets of opportunity.
If Maersk Alabama asked for any kind of assistance, it’s likely that it was far too late, help was too far away, and that they were already being chased.
They were between 200 and 300 nautical miles off the coast, so they were already “sailing prudently”.

“Again, arming you all would certainly put a serious tactic in your hands that would well put a stop to much of this piracy that has gone on for far too long. I have contacted my legislators about your suggestion.”

Hey, I really appreciate that. The Somali boys have been in it for the dough, but over in the Straits of Mallacca, those lads get NASTY, and it gets pretty lonely out there in constricted waters.

]]> By: N1P http://pjmedia.com/blog/its-not-over-what-about-the-rest-of-the-hostages-in-somalia/#comment-241493 N1P Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:23:46 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=52990#comment-241493 So why don't these shipping companies just quietly hire Blackwater or another private security company to go rescue their crews and ships? Has to be cheaper than the lost cargo or ransomes. So why don’t these shipping companies just quietly hire Blackwater or another private security company to go rescue their crews and ships? Has to be cheaper than the lost cargo or ransomes.

]]> By: Meryl http://pjmedia.com/blog/its-not-over-what-about-the-rest-of-the-hostages-in-somalia/#comment-241478 Meryl Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:02:35 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=52990#comment-241478 The Speaker of our House of Representatives has publicly stated that she doesn't think it is legitimate for Americans to enforce their own laws combatting illegal immigration. Where on EARTH would the motivation come from to take care of all the hostages in Somalia! If indeed there was a sudden source of integrity to apply justice to the Somali pirate community, I certainly would hope that 10-15% of could be brought the US to be applied to ACORN and our SOVEREIGN (or not?)borders. The Speaker of our House of Representatives has publicly stated that she doesn’t think it is legitimate for Americans to enforce their own laws combatting illegal immigration.

Where on EARTH would the motivation come from to take care of all the hostages in Somalia!

If indeed there was a sudden source of integrity to apply justice to the Somali pirate community, I certainly would hope that 10-15% of could be brought the US to be applied to ACORN and our SOVEREIGN (or not?)borders.

]]> By: Barry 0351 http://pjmedia.com/blog/its-not-over-what-about-the-rest-of-the-hostages-in-somalia/#comment-241447 Barry 0351 Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:18:07 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=52990#comment-241447 "FOK THAT!" let each nation protect or pay for it's own maritime defense against pirates, HELL arm the crews of merchant ships and let them protect their ass'ets in a region well known for the danger of piracy. "It ain't our job to protect those who condemn us for doing the job they won't, can't or don't care to do." “FOK THAT!” let each nation protect or pay for it’s own maritime defense against pirates, HELL arm the crews of merchant ships and let them protect their ass’ets in a region well known for the danger of piracy.
“It ain’t our job to protect those who condemn us for doing the job they won’t, can’t or don’t care to do.”

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