It Wasn’t Just Four Americans Abandoned in Benghazi
The few media that are covering the abandonment of Americans in Benghazi have focused — and not without merit — on the four Americans that perished over the course of the seven-hour battle.
Ambassador Chris Stevens and diplomat Sean Smith were not the only Americans in the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, however, a fact some of us have lost sight of in our focus on the dead. Nor were Glen Doherty and Ty Woods the only casualties among the forces that disobeyed orders from the Obama administration not to rescue the consulate staff.
When terrorists surrounded the consulate at approximately 8:00 p.m. Benghazi time with 150 men and “technicals” — pickup trucks with heavy machine guns, bearing the logo of Ansar al-Shariah — Stevens and Smith were part of a larger American delegation numbering somewhere between 7-24.
We’re forced to say “approximately” because it has been difficult to determine through media accounts the exact number of Americans inside the consulate.
We do know that at least three other consulate staff members were seriously injured enough in the initial attack that they were treated at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany. Two more consulate staff members were apparently injured in the attack on the CIA safe house which also killed Glen Doherty and Ty Woods.
What we can be sure of is that as the consulate was under fire from a large terrorist force, the lives of a minimum of seven American diplomats were put at risk as President Barack Obama allegedly watched the attack live in the White House Situation Room via the satellite video link to an unarmed Predator drone circling overhead.
We now know that the small CIA force on a separate mission, occupying a safe house a mile away, called in to their superiors for reinforcements. We know that this force twice asked for permission to attempt a rescue mission. We know that they were twice told to “stand down.”
There is NO other way to spin this disaster, other than to say in a loud, clear voice – Barack HUSSEIN Obama purposefully allowed Americans to die!
Now, it is not as if he is the only one guilty of their murders, but the buck does stop with him. In no small measure, whatever punishment he receives, so too should his surrogates be taken to the woodshed. Starting with Jarrett, Clinton, Brennan, Panetta, Huma Abedin & so on, may they all get their comeuppance.
Much still isn’t known, but this much is – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/10/31/more-bengazigate-mysteries-meandering-into-shia-iranian-territory-irrespective-of-sunni-brotherhoodalqaeda-involvement-islamists-of-all-stripes-cooperate-when-necessary-commentary-by-adina/
Evil incarnate.
What I know and have confirmed twice on two separate links is that at least 20 youth were approached and asked to be hired to protest the video that was unknown in the mideast much less N. Africa and had to be advertised by axelrod to even be know at all.
The requests were turned down by the youth.there fore the pre-determined sotry of a mob protesting the video failed,they had to admit that later.
The rest are allegations unconfirmed but unbelievable in scope .
Goes like this Hillary had her terrorists and zero had his.zero had let his terror types run drugs so they would not attack us here in the states so the story goes.He thought his terror types were running the show at benghazi and thats why help never came for those there.
Zero though his terrorists were there and would capture Stevens an he hold him hostage.zero would then free the amabassador looking “big time” for the world or so the story goes.
Its long and complicated.
“CIA officials on the ground in Libya dispatched security forces to the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi within 25 minutes and made other key decisions about how to respond to the waves of attacks on U.S. installations on September 11, a senior American intelligence official said on Thursday.
Officials in Washington monitored events through message traffic and a hovering U.S. military drone but did not interfere with or reject requests for help from officials in the line of fire, the official said.
The information emerged as officials made available on Thursday a timeline chronicling the U.S. response to the Benghazi attacks in which Christopher Stevens, the U.S. ambassador to Libya, and three other American officials died. The material appears to refute claims by critics that officials in Washington delayed sending help to the besieged personnel.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/02/us-usa-libya-cia-idUSBRE8A102T20121102
All true Americans should call their state’s two US Senators and ask them to join the 4 already out there demanding answers. Americans should call their US Congressman and demand a congressional hearing on the president’s and president’s cabinet lie to the people about the video and the debacle of Benghazi. These are our representatives, and we should be forcefully requesting that they get the answers we need. It is their duty whether they are democrats or republicans!! Call them now!
Demonstration-Protest on the CAPITOL STEPS this SUNDAY 11/4…1,000,000 AMERICAN PATRIOTS ON THE WASHINGTON MALL CANNOT BE IGNORED…even by the MSM. Who among our elected leaders will stand up to host the event?
I’m a Canadian and this story just makes my blood boil. The news networks here (and the population in general)are astounded by not only the way in which the President and the MSM have handled the story, but more so by the lack of intensity in the public’s reaction! Why aren’t more people demanding answers? This isn’t the only cover-up. Remember Fast & Furious?
What’s most saddening is not that this administration has consistently lied to the country, but the fact that there hasn’t been a unified national protest to reflect the outrage.
Shortly after 9/11/12 I posted “Where is the outrage?!” Along with the picture of our dead Ambassador Stevens. I have been outraged since then but the left wing American media has suppressed any mention of this occurrence in the papers, tv or internet. Only Fox News has been covering this with any sort of diligence! I remain an outraged American! If Mr. Obama is reelected I fear all this will be buried.
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-right/102912-631263-obama-has-conned-us-with-his-lies-about-benghazi.htm
The link is to an editorial by Dr. Sowell regarding the con job the president is doing.
I’m reading everything I can about this story because it doesn’t make sense, even a type of bad sense.
If this happens two more times, on the third incident the president will make a gutsy call….if Valarie is somewhere else at the time, and the rescue team has the bad guys outnumbered ten to one.
“Approximately” 8:00 pm”. The Benghazi delegation “somewhere between 7 and 24″. Two additional staff were “apparently” injured. “We cannot confirm…”. Etc. etc. When facts are in short supply, simply make them up. “Diplomats were abandoned”! Three times it is stated that the president “allegedly watched the attack live”. Who is alleging this (besides the author)? If any of my students put forward such a poorly written and sourced article, they would receive a failing grade.
Give it up, Brutus. ALL the facts will eventually come out. Your Messiah is going down. Sucks to be you.
Brutus: Would you believe any reporter who said 7:59? 7 reported injured, including the 4 dead, by the Libyans involved in the removal of survivors from the annex, and reports from these, after being told to expect 10 at the annex, surprise at finding up to 30. 7-24 sound pretty cautious under the circumstances. “We cannot confirm” is a pretty honest assessment of when you have one source, but do not have multiple sources. “Allegedly” is perfectable acceptable usage when there is an allegation, but not yet proof. For example, Nixon “allegedly” knew of the Watergate breakin…
As for your last comment, are we to believe you would ever allow your students to investigate Benghazi to begin with? Encourage them to question the ever shifting Party Lines set out by the White House and its covering squad, from NYT down? I do not doubt that if any of your students did so they would receive a failing grade.
use of the term “alledgedly” to describe actioins/inactionis of this administration is fitting. Remember two things: the kinyun promised his administration to be “the most transparent in history”; and that a moslem madman “alledgedly” shot some 32 soldiers at Fort Hood in an incident of “workplace violence”. Never mind there are somewhere near a hundred witnesses to the shooting, and that the perp shouted the classic, and obligatory, announcement of his intent to kill for his false god allah as he commenced his killing.
and you want to split hairs over this writer’s use of “alledgedly”,
These are alleged claims that need to be answered by the White House. It’s a given fact that resources were within 2 hours. It is probable that the situation room watched the events in real time via drone. If the questions don’t get answered then we are going into an election without the information needed to make an informed decision.
If Americans were in danger, and the President (either direct or through his staff/advisers) failed to attempt a rescue resulting in death and injury, that’s information I want available before I vote. Not after the fact.
If a target is being laser painted in the midst of Americans being attacked, I personally could give a rats ass about collateral damage. And if POTUS ordered a stand down, he’s guilty of treason in my opinion.
At this point, the questions have been asked, and America deserves answers prior to voting.
Considering the rules of engagement in Afghanistan doesn’t allow us to fire/bomb structures that might be occupied,even if they are shooting at us from the roof, I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the “logic ” used. I am sure that had we bombed a building packed knee deep with males between ages 15-60, the press would have been presented with dead women & children & didn’t want those optics. I wouldn’t be surprised if the tragic death of a few Americans was weighted against being accused of killing women & children & the loyal, brave Americans lost. Expendable
Thankfully, ascertaining the truth involving the murder of four Americans while our president sits and watches them die without doing anything to help them is not predicated upon your approval.
The president could certainly say whether he watched real-time or not, couldn’t he? All it would take is a simple yes or no. Does he really need an investigation to tell him what HIS actions were that night? The man is a piece of crap that let men better than him die.
4 Americans are dead, and Brutus’ big concern is how many allegedly’s occur in an article about it.
He should be as concerned about why his leader has lied about the incident for 6 weeks now. Beause if he hadn’t lied, there wouldn’t be any alledgedly.
What level of underwater basket weaving do you teach anyway?
Brutus you hit a nerve real well, as anyone can easily recognize by all the rightwing namecalling and impossible blaming. AS IF Obama personally manages the security of diplomats in Libya and everywhere else in the world, AS IF Obama knew and wanted this attack to happen, AS IF Obama has Godlike powers to reach through the telescope of a Predator that could have actually changed anything that happened on the ground, AS IF Obama could have known from such a viewpoint that events would ultimately transpire as they did. And somehow you intuitively know that none of these hypocrites had a negative word to say about any of the terrorist attacks that happened on Bush Jr’s watch, don’t you?
The ugly spin on this event simply smells of rightwing desperation to generate a last-minute issue they can lie about in typical Rovian/SwiftBoat fashion to sway the election.
“AS IF Obama could have known from such a viewpoint that events would ultimately transpire as they did.”
Anyone with a normally functioning brain would have seen the risk. Ambassador Stevens saw it. The British and the Red Cross saw it. But, yes, you Progressive Cultists do mirror your Dear Charismatic Leader’s lack of average intellect…perfectly: AS IF Communism’s Totalitarian State has ever produced anything other than a Master-Slave “Utopia”, yet another such risk.
Had President Bush been warned about the 9/11 attack and told US Forces to stand down, he probably would have received a little criticism. The fact that an attack occurred is not the issue that causes the concern but rather the lack of response once informed. Of course then trying to lay blame to an obscure YouTube video was less than transparent.
Scramble some eggs, wip up some guns, fake out the Goverments, body counts come easy, We Are Power, do not delay us, we got tax money to dole out.
Move out of the way or your in the frying pan too.
Obama is a coward. He feared that an intervention could go wrong ala Carter in 1980. The dead were sacraficed upon the alter of Obama’s reelection hopes. America has never before had a coward as president! A very dangerous situation for the nation. Hopefully November 6th will resolve the problem and teach the nation that cowards cannot be elected president in future.
Agreed.
Until we have a complete understanding of the facts, this appears to be one of the main motives behind such cowardice, though the web of intrigue for this one may be more complex. Obama’s picture should be in the dictionary next to coward once this is all sorted out – in the highest court of law.
Just looked in to PJM (part of a balanced mental diet) and its all Libya all the time, while millions of your fellow citizens are without food, water or power. Its true; you hate Obama more than you love America.
The only person who’s no longer my countryman is you.
Take your preconceived ideas and go back to your pseudo caring sites. Those that frequent this site are the demographic that gives more by an order of magnitude to those in need than do those on your favorite sites.
We love America and that results in us despising one who watched in real time as Americans came under assault and then refused to do what was easily in his power to do to protect them, all because of his personal political calculations.
Almost got it in one. We hate what Obama has done BECAUSE we love America.
millions of our fellow citizens will get their food, water and power back.
the benghazi four wont be getting their lives back.
Sorry we don’t bow down to the messiah like you obviously do! Since when is it wrong to object to an illegal pouts that turns his back on patriots willing to give their life for their country?
The rest of the media is covering the storm 24/7 so they can avoid this story. Seems like PJM is making up lost ground to me.
This from an administration that tried its best to ignore obamas failed domestic record in favor of trying to make trivil distractions like a possible romney teenage bullying incident, how he transported his dog, bigbird, and binders, into vital national issues.
In the meantime we try to find the truth about the death of 4 brave patriotic americans, likely by gross administration negligence, followed by a Nixon like coverup, and you have the gaul to accuse US of pursuing a minor political distraction.
someday these pitiful excuses for reporters will have to explain to their grandchildren why they were such sorry excuses for human beings. refusing to report how they helped a commie (fraud) weasel to try to overthrow our great republic. either that or try to make excuses as to how amerika became a third world country, virtually overnight. probably blame bush.
maybe if everybody starts alleging all over the net that the reason the kenyan didn’t try to rescue our ambassador was because he was gay. that might cross their radar screens, ya think? at least it might make the oh so intellegent ones aware that something actually happened that night. it must be heck to be so smart you can’t be bothered with the truth.
Only time Way Big Commie leaves a tax payer funded redistribution area is when the golden goose has no more eggs left to scramble.
Just an observation. Nixon was impeached and cronies imprisoned for lies and cover-up activities associated with Watergate. But no one died. Looks like America may need to apologize to them if we turn a blind eye on this.
Watch as Obama AND the MSM get taken out over Benghazi….a two-fer.
Damn I love it when a plan comes together.
I thought 8 pm was the time the area had been closed off by Al-Sharia and the attack happened 90 min. later. A Turkish diplomat left Stevens around 8 pm, apparently with little difficulty. I’m going by memory here.
Also, there’s something strange about using pick-ups with one’s logo on them. Why would they do that?
Because they’re almost as dumb as you Treasonocrats?
Why does any street gang wear ‘colors’ ?
To avoid friendly fire i.e. getting shot by their own people.
To state that they are the real power on the streets of Benghazi.
Real military forces follow the Geneva Convention rules;
Personnel and vehicles marked to avoid attacks on civilians.
Yo,
TWANLOC
How can that be, King Ofraud has his food redistrubution centers full, his water power climate frindly electric grid, no way, all must love King Ofraud, we all love King Ofraud cause he makes it work with just a simple shell game.
Want to see Al Gore, gored and wackedamole big time.
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Thank you for mentioning the fact that more lives were left hanging in the balance than just the four courageous souls who were lost. The point being, just how many American lives were acceptable loss to those who were making the decisions. Woods and Doherty who courageously bought time for others to escape, were told to stand down. Their unwillingness to obey that callous command is the reason more lives were not allowed to be sacrificed….by them. But they were by our leadership.
Woods and Doherty died in the annex a mile away from the consulate. The first attack was at the consulate, the people at the annex heard and knew about the attack they defy the order to stand down, a group of Americans and Libyan went to the consulate, there they were able to save several embassy staff and recovered Smith’s body but wasn’t able to find the ambassador, the security cannot hold off the attackers and they drove everyone to the annex and was shot at on their way there. The annex was attacked later on and this is where the 2 heroes died. The best timeline is fox news Brett Baier documentary because Greg Polcot(not sure of the spelling)was able to go to Benghazi and filmed it where it happen.
There is a theory out there that this incident was staged, the plan was to kidnap the ambassador, hold him for awhile and set him free before the election. Newt Gingrich mentioned that there are emails where it ordered the anti-terrorism reaction unit to stand down because this is not a terror attack. To me this kind of explain the misinformation and disinformation of the administration, they cannot define the situation honestly. However, the thing that put holes in this theory is why did they put the consulate on fire if kidnapping was the goal.
Where are the embassy staff now?
We don’t need a conspiracy theory. Here’s what Occam’s razor says:
Somehow, the narrative of “the movie” became accepted above the calls for help. Everybody in the chain of command thought it was a bunch of youts all upset over a movie. With that in mind, nobody wants to open fire on a crowd of youts. They were cocksure that it would just blow over.
They apparently followed this narrative, even when they got quite explicit calls for help. They assumed the SEALs were lying. IOW, they assumed that everybody was as low and disgusting as they were.
The only question this leaves on the table is who peddled this movie fable? We never did get a straight answer to that.
The man that will shave his mustache on live tv.
FATHER OF SLAIN BENGHAZI SEAL: THE WHITE HOUSE ORDER WAS “DON’T HELP THEM, LET THEM DIE”. Tonight on Hannity, Charles Woods, the father of murdered Benghazi SEAL Tyrone Woods, accused the White House of watching his son die. Woods said White House officials watched the attack for seven hours and did nothing. “I can’t imagine anyone with any heart that would watch a battle rage for … READ MORE:
http://bwcentral.org/2012/10/father-of-slain-benghazi-seal-the-white-house-order-was-dont-help-them-let-them-die/
At this point in the story, and at this point in the race, isn’t it now safe to assume the worst. Can’t we safely say that, in their silence, those responsible have confessed to all of those things we would have never imagined our leaders capable of. They watched and did nothing. Let’s vote
Vote, and remember. These POS’s will be out with books, memoirs etc. for years to come, and will be on television and other Legacy media to try and cement their version of the story.
Make sure you are always there to keep asking “why didn’t you do anything” and drag their names and reputations through the mud. This is the perfect opportunity to discredit Obama, his Administration and the Democrat Party and erase them from history and into the oblivion they richly deserve.
Where are those other people?? Can we talk to them? Can they tell us what they saw that night?
On lock down no doubt…whistleblowers don’t get too far with this admin.
Thank you for bringing up the other Americans, as well as the Libyans who were helping to defend. I read this earlier in the day and your words kept flashing in my head. Thank you.
REMEMBER BENGHAZI!
“we can be sure of is that… Obama allegedly watched the attack live”
We ‘can be sure’ even though it was only an allegation? Is that what passes for evidence in right media? Still wonder why mainstream media haven’t picked it up other than ‘facts optional’ Fox News?
ABCNNBCBS is giving Papa Doc more protection than he gave the ambassador and his staff in Benghazi.
Once the truth about Benghazi comes out, Obama’s expected 2nd term is likely to become one of many terms in a federal penitentiary.
The earth that Obama is starting to feel shake under his feet is the landslide that’s just beginning.
The Obama administration used surrogates like Bernadine Dorhn and NGO’s to stage angry protests across the middle east with the YouTube video as a prop. The idea was to create conditions that obama would use to excuse an executive order to control the internet. Remember, Napolitano said she had the executive order about ready for him to sign. Remember, Mubarik said that the arab uprising (arab spring) led back to the “White House”, NOT The “USA”… Instead of playing along with the charade, Al Qaida in Libya saw it as an opportunity and attacked the consolate. As usual with these idiotic leftists… their plan(like a weatherman bomb) blew up in their face. They were caught up in their own devious mess, betrayed by those they thought to be their lapdogs. They’ve been scrambling to hide and cover up everything since.
There is a reason why Bill Clinton lawyered up for Hillary! They know that there was criminal negligence in not responding to the calls from help at the Consulate and CIA safe house. Tightening down the hatches to cover for Obama assures only one thing….when it blows wide open it will be far worse then a firestorm!
There are four scandals in the Benghazi busines:
1) In the weeks before the attack the diplomats asked for more security, warning that their safety was at risk. Either the security could have been arranged or the diplomats could have been flown away from the risk of harm. The people under Obama’s span of control could have saved lives. They refused.
2) During the attack itself the CIA and diplomats asked for help. If the help had been attempted then it is very likely that the men would still be alive today. The request for help was made at least three times, and refused at least three times, by people under Obama’s supervision, in the White House.
3) After the attack Obama, Clinton and others dishonestly tried to distract the public with a scapegoat – some low-budget video. A man is in jail today because he made a boring video about how a religion started and put that video on the internet.
4) The US diplomats were up to no good in Libya in the first place. They were busy trying to buy weapons in Libya and ship them to Al Queda in Syria. Al Queda in Libya got jealous – they wanted those weapons. So they decided to stop the shipments with extreme prejudice.
So in the first two scandals Team Obama betrayed their fellow citizens lives and health. In the third scandal they tried to undermine a freedom all Americans are supposed to be granted by their Creator, an inalienable right put into the Constitution by the 1st Amendment. In the fourth scandal the Obama Administration is seen to be allied with evil people and outsmarted by other evil people.
These scandals show that the Obama Administration, by its coldness of heart and slowness of mind, is a threat to employees of the US government, and to the freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution. If the diplomats and CIA employees were put at risk on Sep 11 so every American will be put at risk some time in the future. Your turn is coming.
Last but not least is the fact that the US government should never have sent employees to Libya in the first place. Gaddafi should have been left alone. Who cares which barbarian rules the Barbary coast? Its none of our business! The USA does not benefit if one barbarian is replaced by another. Obama borrows money from the Peoples Bank of China to mess around in Libya. What a foolish, extravagant foreighn policy.
Let’s tell it like it is for once.
Since elected, Obama has abandoned half the nation. The working half.
Not only that, he’s looted our treasury, embarrassed our citizenry, screwed up our military, sacked our best generals, stalled our economy, insisted the surge in Iraq would never word, ruined the best healthcare system in the world.
In short, lied about everything under the sun.
Worse, he’s gotten thousands of our military killed with idiotic rules of engagement. Not to mention the fact that he’s lied about Benghazi like there was no tomorrow and gotten four American heroes killed in the process.
If there ever was a President who needed to resign, it wasn’t Nixon by a long shot.
It’s President Barack Hussein Obama, a worthless, socialist puke who deserves to be led out of the White House, with his frowning ugly wife waddling behind him, in hand cuffs.
I say, give him six or seven consecutive terms.
In a Federal Penitentiary.
Question: What type of executive edict can Obama and crew have issued that stops all communication from the W/H, State, Pentagon, CIA, FBI, major commands and all their spokespeople, plus the MSM?
That’s scary!
This will be brushed under the table now that Colon Powell is going to speak out for Obama.
And how shameful this all is just continues to grow.
Geraldo Rivera is furious over the GOP claims about Benghazi and was tweeting, article from AP in part: “To suggest the four U.S. consulate workers killed in Benghazi “could have been saved,” Rivera added, is a “cruel myth.”
I don’t know why he would say this, when there is so much information to suggest the complete opposite.
The ambassador and the 2nd casualty died in the initial embassy assault, and its possible they could not have been saved by more prompt aid. Their fate might have been sealed before the attack started, when the administration decided to deny the ambassador the site security team his security chief wanted, that the admin negligently ended up wiithdrawing from the area, over his and the ambassadors objections.
But the other 2 deaths, at the cia annex, died from mortar attack in a 7 hr firefight. Dispatch of prompt air assets, to take out that mortar position, plus landing more ground reinforcements at the relitively safe bengazzi airport, could definitely have saved them, but the adminintratin played craven politicised cowards, and condemned those 2 heroes to die far from help, and then tried to cover up their negligence with that pathetic blame the video lie.
Due to admin stonewalling and lies for over 6 weeks, and willing media connivance, except for the great reporting at fox, and a few isolated examples elsewhere, we probably will not know the truth before the election. But we will definitely know the truth afterwards. Do you dems really want to be saddled with another Nixon, as the scandal crippled pathetic leader of your party for 4 long years, probably marred by yet another impeachment trial, or is it better to cut your losses now, and run somebody decent in 2016.
Herr-aldo is an ambulance chasing pimp liberal that jumped on the Fox News ratings bandwagon. He is the scummiest of the scum. I hope everybody remembers his “outrage” when the facts are revealed. He has a long history as a liberal activist that he attempted to shroud during his military imbeds during the wars – wrapped in the flag supporting the troops – but his true colors are exposed when there is a legitimate chance to damage his commie-marxist hero.
Che Guevara commie wannabe
REMEMBER BENGHAZI!!