It’s Not the Economy, Stupid
I am one of the last wave of immigrants who received a good, basic pro-American public education in elementary school. That was in the 1960s; today’s immigrant children, along with the poor and disenfranchised minority children, will not learn the skills and receive the knowledge they need to succeed. Their “urban school” teachers will shirk real lessons and fill up the school day with Marxist lessons on “social justice,” building up resentment and perpetuating a sense of victimhood and racial blame.
To see how the Obama machine appealed to them, take a look at a photo at TinaTrent.com of a 1911 United Super Pac bus that ominously says on the side: “Stop Disrespecting My President!” with a threatening giant photo of Obama — an insult to the dignity of the office of president. For these voters, it’s not the “economy.” They have no economy other than the public benefits they receive. They have no clue about the motives of their teachers and how they are being trained as foot soldiers in their Marxist revolution.
For the Left, it took “systematic persistent organizing and education,” as Howard Zinn advised back in 1969.
Are Republicans willing to do the same thing?
It’s not so much race, it’s gays and abortion.
Single women are a huge voting block. By and large, they like gay men. Frankly, most people under 40 (45?) don’t have any problem with gays, growing up in the 70s where gayness was briefly popular – David Bowie, Queen, The Village People, Mott the Hoople, and so on. It’s something people grew up and and didn’t think was a big deal, as opposed to the 50s and 60s where it is viewed as being sinister somehow (Watch Frank Sinatra’s The Detective for what I mean). Not wanting them to get married just looks mean at this point.
Abortion is a trickier subject, which is why the media constantly asks about the trickier things, like in the case of rape. Otherwise non-political I know were upset and mad over Akin and Mourdock’s statements. But again, if a woman happens to get raped, she really probably doesn’t want to have the kid, have some middle aged or elderly person telling her she has to have it, or it’s God’s will is like a slap in the face.
“Gays” are a tiny minority, and on that basis the issue of same-sex marriage should be an extremely minor issue, and even its implementation should be a matter of little importance. But that is not the case.
The gay-rights movement is a Communist-founded movement. The original invention of “homosexuality” as a separate identity was a pseudoscientific creation of the Fabian socialists in the late 19th century; the first organized gay-rights movement, in Germany, during the Weimar Republic, was a Communist creation; the first “homophile rights organizations” in this country were founded by Communists; the post-Stonewall gay-rights movement was created by Maoists and New Leftists, and had as one of its objectives (never forsworn) the destruction of traditional marriage.
The gay-rights movement is hostile to free speech, traditional religion, and the concept of objective truth. In furtherance of its hostility to free speech, it has created the concept of “hate speech,” which it has banned in schools and on college campuses, and thereby made open discussion of issues impossible even in the larger society. Dismiss your opponent’s countervailing opinion as “hate speech” and you need not only not answer your opponent, you have marginalized and dismissed him and his opinion. The movement did this initially by equating countervailing opinion with physical violence: “gay-baiting,” a term taken from “red-baiting,” became “gay-bashing” years ago. Gay-bashing—unprovoked physical attacks on those perceived, correctly or not, to be homosexual—was a real, if relatively rare, phenomenon; by referring to verbal political disagreement as physical violence, the movement made verbal disagreement difficult. In this, it was materially aided by the introduction of the pseudoscientific term “homophobia,” which implied that anyone who disagreed with the gay-rights lobby’s agenda of the moment was mentally ill.
The movement is hostile to traditional religion in that traditional religion “teaches hate speech” merely by quoting the Bible. It is a mistake to believe any guarantees whatsoever by same-sex marriage advocates that traditional religion will be untouched by the creation of same-sex marriage. Already there have been instances where private businesses have been sued on equal-protection grounds by same-sex marriage advocates when these private businesses have declined to rent facilities or perform services for same-sex nuptials. If these guarantees of freedom of association are swept away—and it is being done as we speak—then similar attacks on religious institutions which decline to perform same-sex marriages will not be far behind.
The movement is hostile to the concept of objective truth by pushing and supporting the cause of “transgenderism.” It is ironic that the Left, which touts itself as the champion of “science,” is pushing this notion, because “transgenderism” is the ultimate triumph of feelings over fact. If someone declares himself to be Napoleon, he is not, in fact, Napoleon—no matter how greatly he resembles Napoleon nor how good his French. Yet we are asked to believe that a person who declares him- or herself to be a member of the opposite sex actually is one, despite the objective testimony of the physical body and the DNA. This negation of fact by feelings spells the end of objective truth.
It is at first glance ironic that the gay-rights movement would be championing the cause of “transgenderism,” because “transgenderism” would seem the ultimate negation of the movement’s mantra of being “gay and proud”—what could be less “gay and proud” than someone willing to undergo extensive self-mutilation to bring their same-sex attraction into visual conformity with the more socially-acceptable appearance of being an opposite-sex attraction? But the gay-rights movement supports “transgenderism” as the shock troops for same-sex marriage. A married person who undergoes “transgender” alteration, and then retroactively alters his or her birth certificate—as has already happened in some cases—creates same-sex marriage as a fact on the ground regardless of whether or not same-sex marriage is legal in a given state.
That’s a bit _too_ cynical, Buzzsaw, even for me.
For most TGs that I’ve encountered, it’s not a cynical mutilation in order to “escape” homosexuality and undermine the battle against gay marriage. It’s that they have a severe image issue, hate how they look, and have been taught in the schools that being male/masculine is an evil thing and that all should aspire to be more feminine, more like women. That it’s time for the “male oppressors” to start to learn what it feels like to be on the other end of the paradigm.
They’re bombarded from birth that the worst, most evil thing to be (other than white) is to be male, and if they already had self-image problems on top of that (even MORESO if they were raised by a single parent), you’ve got a formula for exploiting (and possibly even growing) neuroses in children/teens, driving them in their despair to think the only way out is to “become” a woman, to “join” what they’ve been conditioned to see is the “winning team”.
Just another failing brought on by allowing the Progressive Fabians to take over the education system and the media.
You misunderstand me in part, I believe. Most “transgenders” are not mutilating themselves “cynically”—they truly believe they are born the wrong sex, just as the asylum inmate impersonating Napoleon truly believes himself to be Napoleon.
Likewise, the useful idiots, homosexual and heterosexual, who agitate for the invention of a new form of marriage under the false flag of “marriage equality” have, for the most part, no clue that they are being foot soldiers for a communist movement designed to destroy one of the country’s foundational liberties.
The beauty of these subversive movements is that they are designed to be hermit crabs. The hermit crab creeps into an empty shell, occupies it, and adopts it as his own—only to discard it for a new one when he has grown larger and the shell’s usefulness is at an end. The communist-founded gay-rights movement began as a small hermit crab; the “homophile movement.” It grew to become the “gay liberation movement”; now it is “marriage equality” campaign. At each stage, it discarded its old shell and occupied a new, larger one—a shell of more expansive “rights” demands and broader “equality” rhetoric.
Once begun, movements like the gay-rights lobby attract people through the prettiness of their language, the glory of their vision, the so-called “justice” of their cause. Thousands of well-meaning people fell for this line and joined communist front organizations in the ’30s and ’40s. The people who fall for the gay-rights movement are merely repeating that history, regardless of what their sexual preferences or practices may be.
I still believe that Political Gender Feminism (or more confrontationally, the female superiority movement) plays a bigger role in it than anybody wants to talk about.
Just look at how big an influence Gender Feminism was in this most recent election.
Oh, most certainly Kitsume.
The biggest dagger is the one aimed at dividing a tribes women from supporting the tribe. You can recover from most things, you cant recover from your tribe’s women turning against you.
This is an interesting, but not really helpful post. The problem faced here by conservatives is one of language. Transgender surgery is merely cosmetic. You can’t change your sex – you can only mask it. This needs to be pointed out repeatedly since public funds will be used, if they aren’t already, to pay for such surgery. In general, cosmetic surgery is not covered by insurance or the public health insurance programs. It also emphasizes the power of biology.
As for “gay marriage” – why not refer to it as genderless marriage and stop using the terminology of its backers. Genderless marriage means the end of the nomenclature of marriage – husband and wife, for example, and by and large the end of the blood relationship as the legal definition of parenthood.
Finally, my parents were Communists – of the card carrying kind, yet they were puritanical about sex and relationships. They did live together outside of marriage in the 30s, which was probably pretty uncommon, but my mother visited the Soviet Union during that time and explained to me once how the Soviets at first thought that divorce should be handled by postcard signature. They abandoned that, apparently, for the obvious reasons. As for demands by homosexuals, they would have viewed that as a distraction from the main event, sort of like an opiate for the masses for the non masses.
Excellent analysis, Buzzsawmonkey.
“It is ironic that the Left, which touts itself as the champion of ‘science,’ is pushing this notion.”
I’ve brought up this point a number of times. There are many humanities professors in academia who believe that truth is subjective and also seem to believe that anyone who believes that truth is objective is racist, sexist, and homophobic.
They represent a lost opportunity for conservatives because they should be asked whether they think that global warming is objectively true. If they answer yes, then conservatives should demand that they be fired because obviously they are teaching what they don’t really believe. If they answer no, then conservatives should “out” them on the global warming issue as deniers.
I can understand your thinking on this, Jeremy, but if you take a close look at the election numbers in the states that mattered, it doesn’t statistically bear out. This was essentially an election predicated on racial identity politics and won by depicting Romney as bad and untrustworthy because he is a prosperous, older white man and such people are innately hate-mongers if they don’t vote for Obama. Fixing the economy was not the motive of the 90% democrat voting blocs that showed up, as they always do, dragged, carried, delivered or invented at the polls.
And I think there are vast amounts of fraud operating in key districts. But we’re not looking for that fraud the right way. Poll watching is important, but it is absentee voting that is least accountable. Florida tried in several ways to clean up their voter rolls and were met with two powerful forces trying to prevent any consideration of the viability of registrations: the Soros legal machine and the media, which started screaming “racist, racist, racist” and repeating extraordinary bold lies the moment the governor’s office began to perform legal inquiries into the legitimacy of voter registrations.
Minority groups and their urban precincts are pawns in a huge election-fraud game.
It’s Chicago machine politics in every swing state.
But Romney had a majority of white women. (He also got 11% of Black men, as opposed to 3% of Black women.)
The MSM could just as well have asked McCaskill about abortion for sex selection. We have to force this narrative. Force the questions to be asked. First fo all there are conservative reporters, or at least conservative stations. Secondly, every pro-life candidate must refuse to answer a question about abortion for rape until his opponent is asked, and answers, a question about abortion for sex selection.
What it comes down to is this – what is more important, money or life. I pick life. If the Republican party is not pro-life, I’ll find a party that is. And no, I’m not a Christian.
Most of the black underclass live in cities controlled by overpaid, unaccountable unionized public employees and corrupt Democrat elected officials- many of them whom are black. If the problem is racism then why haven’t these people’s lives improved? Could it be the public employees and corrupt politicians know that ignorant and fearful people are quite easy to manipulate through demagoguery?
I am hopeful. For almost seven decades those blacks who could vote loyally supported the party of Lincoln even though little was being done to improve their situation, especially in the South. Around the time of FDR younger blacks started to tilt to FDR. By the early 1960s the black vote was owned by the Democrats. Between 2008 and 20012.Obama lost eight percentage points of support among blacks under age 30. I suspect that younger blacks are figuring out that the worst enemy of many black Americans is not the Republican party but rather the people they keep electing to office despite all the broken promises.
I agree. I am not a single issue voter, but this issue does carry weight. I have less concern about other women killing their unborn than the slippery slope towards forced abortions. I am willing to support a moderately pro-choice candidate who goes no further than safe, legal, early and rare. In the case of late term inductions, a requirement to at least attempt to save the child. Anything more extreme and pro-abortion than that and I would switch my vote.
Thank you. I am not a Christian either, but by and large, the values of the Judeo Christian tradition are embedded in our civil life. Until recently, this was accepted without question.
I hope that Republicans do not decide that the way to win elections is to become a carbon copy of the Democrats. First of all they would not be convincing and second of all we know appeasement doesn’t work. Churchill spent many years in the political wilderness and that is what Republicans must do. They must find candidates who can better articulate conservative principles and how they apply to life and work.
I think one reason the Republicans failed in this election is their refusal to discuss “social issues.” This may have been defensive on Romney’s part due to his religion, but any future candidates must face the fact that we can’t solve our economic problems without solving our social problems. Take the decline of marriage: nearly or actually half of all births in the US now are out of wedlock. Often there are multiple births by multiple fathers.
The left began attacking the only biologically sound marriage arrangement decades ago by redefining a “family” as basically any group of people that chooses to live together. This has been a disaster. Even the New York Times acknowledged in an article this year that as much as 40% of poverty in the US is due to single parenthood – that means largely women as heads of households.
The Democrats provide incentives for this through direct financial support that enables groups of related women to live together without working. Indirect support is provided by their allies in the media who invent “alternative lifestyles” and push their acceptance. Conservatives are exercised by the advance of genderless marriage, but it is only an additional nail in the coffin.
A family headed by a mother and a father is the acknowledged best environment for raising children. Within such a family children learn trust, how to related to others, and to accept limits. Fathers are particularly important in the process to both boys and girls. Rather than claiming a God-driven reason to support the “traditional family,” why can’t we point out that undermining the nuclear family (for lack of a better word) is bad social policy and has consequences that will iterate through generations? Rather than reaching out in this way, conservatives have made themselves the targets of humorists and others by using religious language.
Same-sex marriage is not “genderless marriage.” “Genderless marriage” is merely another euphemism, superficially less loaded than “marriage equality,” but, as a euphemism, designed to be just another different-colored sheep’s pelt to cloak the wolf.
It is interesting that with regard to marriage the Gay Agenda is insisting ‘equality’ yet heterosexuals have never and are not permitted to enter into marriage with a member of the same-sex while homosexuals are permitted to enter into marriage with a member of the opposite sex.
I do agree with your premise, the Gay Agenda is an artifical construct which has nothing to do with Marriage or Equality
Susan: You are, I think, missing the point. There is no such thing as a “homosexual behavior test” for participating in same-sex marriage. Rather, the issue is that:
a) One of the foundational objectives of the modern “homosexual rights movement” was the destruction of marriage—an objective it has never forsworn, and which has never been discussed in the course of the agitation for same-sex marriage;
b) Same-sex marriage is a new and unprecedented form of marriage. To create something new requires a justification over and above “we can make a lot of noise until we get what we want.” That justification has not been made—and the history of the movement demanding it mandates that it be made before such a step is taken.
c) Marriage is not a civil right; civil rights under our law are rights that we hold against government overstepping its powers.
d) There is no valid parallel between the abolition of anti-miscegenation laws, which voided otherwise-valid traditional marriages on the extraneous basis of race, and the creation of the new form of marriage which same-sex marriage would be.
Akin is an example of an Evangelitard Republican. If a smart Republican was asked a question about rape, he would talk about the Second Amendment, Concealed Carry licenses, and women’s right to use firearms in self-defense against a rapist. If a stupid Republican religious retard was asked that same question, he would speak of BS like “women’s vaginas magically blocking rapists”.
Don’t nominate nice guys or YEC Evangelitards to national office, nominate suave alphas that are mean, smart, and relentlessly aggressive.
Ok, what do you say about the millions of adult females who voted for McCaskill and Obama simply because post-menopausal women dressed in pink-va-jay-jay costumes insisted that Mitt Romney would ban birth control and tampons?
Akins one-word mishap is not a wacky as the Democrat’s entire platform yet for some strange reason most seem to ignore the multitude of moronic women screaming about the plight of their ladyparts.
I blogged recently about abortion and rape from a prolife perspective. [See my web site.] Conservatives need to be able to balance the rights of the unborn and the need not to amplify the consequences of rape. Concepts of legitimate self-defense and collateral damage in opposing crime come into play.While admiring women who would carry such children to term, we may want to defend their choice not to do so.
“Are Republicans willing to do the same thing?”
Come on. Republicans have been doing the same thing for decades now. The Republican party has wholeheartedly adopted identity politics, and has been pushing itself as the party of white Christian identity for years. That works great when people who identify strongly as white Christians are a large majority in the electorate, but that simply isn’t true anymore.
“Real America”, “taking away our country”, islamophobia, illegals hysteria, disparaging remarks about “urban” folks. Poo poo it if you want, but if you read the comments on PJM, or even some of the articles (did you know PJM thinks Obama isn’t qualified to be President because his name sounds non-Anglo?)…
http://pjmedia.com/blog/bho-whats-in-a-name/
When the R party captured the South, it didn’t realize that in the end the South was going to capture it, with all the nostalgia for the white culture that comes with the lost cause. In a changing America, the R’s big bet on identity politics is coming back to bite it…
This fellow is a hate filled bigot, who demonizes entire populations of white European-Americans that live in Southern States.
Notice how White European culture is a “lost cause.”
The real problem is that haters like General Tso arent ostracized from polite society, but rather represent mainstream Left-Democrat thinking. They teach this stuff in schools to children and bombard the country with it over the airwaves barely if ever challenged.
What’s next? The Final Solution for White European Americans?
Obama is preparing to take over the country and turn it into a black dominated dictatorship. If you have the army, it doesn’t require the support of lot of the general population (witness Assad’s alawites in Syria) to take over a country.
I hope you are wrong block. I can’t forget the day I helped a coworker move to San Francisco. Across the street as we walked by someone yelled “death to the white race” What was worse was my friend quietly exclaiming “Yeah this is my kind of neighborhood!” It seems some white liberals would welcome a free train ride. One of the greatest triumphs of Liberals or current democrat philosophy (whatever you call it) is to have painted Hitler as “right wing” and have it stick so even the History Channel will make that claim even though he was a National Socialist. Then they were able to have the rightwing label of their brand stick to Goldwater who didn’t want to nationalize much at all.
It may only interest students of history today, another of the species on the brink of extinction, but Hitler’s NSDAP aligned itself with bankers and industrialists, because he needed what they had. His brown shirts battled communists in the streets. Krupp wasn’t about to have his wealth “redistributed” by Marxists. Ulimately though the poison is statism, regardless of the popular label.
Socialism (and Communism) and Nazism (Fascism) are virtually identical in the only real distinction that counts: dictatorial control by the government of virtually everything people do. Both systems take control from individuals and place it in the hands of government. The USSR was a true “mature” socialist, i.e. Communist, state, while Nazi Germany was an “end game” Fascist state. Both were virtually identical in how they administered their states and how they treated their people. One had Gulags, the other Concentration Camps. One owned all means of production the other strictly controlled the corporations and stationed government overseers in board rooms and on shop floors. One outlawed private property, the other had such disregard for it as to render the term meaningless. Neither allowed freedom of movement of citizens (“your papers are not in order”). Both had ruthless national police forces and had extensive networks of spies, spying on their own people. Both could execute citizens (and did so routinely) without due process or trial. Both tightly controlled all freedom of association. Both instituted massive gun bans. Both made it a capital offense to speak out against the government.
So perhaps one can say Communism/Socialism and Nazism are from different ends of the spectrum, but for actual people living their lives any distinctions are meaningless.
Note to Paul S: Your post is spot on except for your stating Hitler’s Brown Shirts battled Communists in the street and therefore, the two ideologies are enemies and thus on opposite ends of the spectrum. That is like saying the countless wars of old between the Kings of England and France somehow meant that one was not a monarchy.
He is right in a way: Marxism, Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Fabianism, Eugenics, Nihilism, Existentialism, Deconstructionism, etc. are not African ideologies. Europe has been the cradle of loonie theories since the 1500′s. Americans have sent two generations of good men to die there and save Europeans from themselves. Now they finally managed to infect our youth and our political class. All this rotten stuff comes from Europe. They hate the US, Israel, and Christianity because those are the only things that separate them from world domination. They will fail, unexpectedly and I bet it is going to come very soon. This is not wishful thinking on my part. My prognostication is based on the proven fact that evil always defeats itself by internecine war.
“Marxism, Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Fabianism, Eugenics, Nihilism, Existentialism, Deconstructionism, etc. are not African ideologies.”
Rather obviously, you have never been to Africa.
Just because Africans didn’t sit down and assign labels to how they ordered their governing philosophies doesn’t mean that they did not, and do not, practice all of those, and more.
If Zimbabwe’s condition is not a result if Nihilism, then what would be?
They are starving themselves to death in the middle of a grocery store through racial despoliation labelled “Agrarian Reform”, and have effectively repeated the same mistake the Soviets made when they collectivized the farms from the Kulaks.
Or look at Kenya, Rwanda, or the Sudan, where “Eugenics” is practiced with the AK-47 and the machete.
Perhaps, but Mugabe is a Communist. There has been European involvement in Rwandan racism – not that racism isn’t an innate human sin – for a long time; the American Sepctator did a piece on this many years ago. Cambodia murdered people based on French philosophy (Stare, for example). Africa has been badly infected by Marxism.
BTW – also from AmSpec many years ago – the Ba’ath pgilosophy of Assad and Saddam Hussein is a sort of Nazism with the Arabs replacing the Aryans. It was invented by an Orthodox Christian.
Of course, Islam is almost native, if you don’t count the fact that it is a distortion of Jewish and Christian ideas.
I meant to say that all radical thought since the 1500′s comes from Europe. It is rather obvious that European radicalism has been exported to every continent … Machiavelli, Voltaire, Marx, Engels, Trotsky were all Europeans. If today there is a single successful radical ideology born outside Europe I honestly don’t know about it.
It depends on whether you want to consider Islamism as “a radical ideology.”
It didn’t come from Europe.
I’m surprised such a connoisseur of white identity politics doesn’t know what “the lost cause” is, but this link will help you in that regard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy
Ah those Racist Republicans. I guess that explains why the worst conditions among the black underclass are found in cities that have long been controlled by Democrats. Or why black public school teachers in these cities will often claim their black students are incapable of learning. Want to talk about vile stereotypes? The one group of inner city teachers in Chicago who consistently insist upon results from their black students are the basketball and football coaches. And according the a report by the Chicago Sun Times a few years back when Arne Duncan was in charge of the public school system they were not disciplined if they physically abuse their charges to get those results.
Really Tso you’re using wiki as a source? Even my grade ten 15 year old students know enough to never use that site a a reference for fear of a failing grade. Sources are Peer reviewed, hopefully primary sourced, and not open to revision by any nut with a computer and an internet feed.
I noticed that also. But, remember history about ‘slavery’ has been revised. Only a small percentage owned slaves and many slaves were given property and land to work. It was generally NOT the horrendous thing that the race-baiters claim it was to win ‘reparations’ via entitlements. There are a lot of lies about the south. Look at it. If it was so bad why did they return here after the auto companies laid them off in Detroit. I’m tired of having my homeland demonized by liars and entitlement deadbeats.
Wrong. I’m not promoting identity politics. That’s not what we should be educating for, but rather our American identity–before the Communists and New Left infiltrated our education system and destroyed it.
“Wrong. I’m not promoting identity politics. That’s not what we should be educating for, but rather our American identity–before the Communists and New Left infiltrated our education system and destroyed it.”
Our “American identity” is a White Judeo-Christian Western European identity, and always has been.
The Marxist and racial Left has always claimed this to be so, and because it is objectively true, it has resonated.
So embrace it as the Truth that it is.
I would think that the racial vote tallies in this election might have been enough to knock the fopundation out from under these fairy-tales that we have told ourselves.
The opposition doesn’t believe them…why should we still continue to?
Multi-culturalism and Tolerance and Diversity are all political tranquilizers that the Marxist Left have force-fed to White Christian people to put them to sleep.
Wake up!
No doubt Mary, you blame the insidious European influence on education for you having the lowest teacher ratings (Ratemy professors.com) that I have ever seen posted by a post secondary school instructor.
I’d be willing to bet that all conservative professors are scored poorly by their mush brained, indoctrinated, political correctness driven students. The site is hardly objective.
My 13 year old daughter and her classmates hate their English teacher, why? Because she actually makes them do some work and is a tough grader.
Albert, review logical fallacies (that is if you ever learned them).
Mary, thank you for an excellent post. Ignore Albert – he’s an obvious slacker and dimwit, typical of his failed generation of wanting something for nothing, knowing nothing of worth, and invariably when the bennies run out, being nothing.
I recently quit my Corporate job of 20 years to return to school to become a physician. You have a greater appreciation of teaching in your 40s than you do your late teens.
I just took a look at my professors ratings too. And in every case, the best but most difficult professors have received the lowest rating. I would take Albert’s insult as clear indicator you’re on the right path.
That is really sick. If you don’t like her writing, don’t read it.
Mary, you can do what you like, but White European People have to protect themselves from a hostile Establishment, schools, media, government, discrimninatory racist laws and judges, corporate policy and culture. The rewriting of our history by the new winners who loathe us, shouldnt be embraced…only a self hating White European would do such a thing.
Unfortunately, just as their are a bunch of self-hating Jews, White Europeans have masses of self-loathing European Christians. Im not embracing cultural suicide, when other groups are refusing assimilation.
Now Conservatives and Republicans can continue to promote color blind policies and equal opportunity as what appears to be a highly principled but ultimately a losing battle (fighting nature and current reality with a determined Leftwing foe and their gaggle of hostile minority tribalists), but White European Americans need to protect themselves whilst you do it. It’s as simple as that.
Mary, you may or may not agree with the identity politics practiced by the Republican party, but they are being practiced whole-heartedly and have been for decades now.
Yo mutt, give it a rest. Like the Demoncrats have not practiced identity politics as well???
White Americans gravitated to the GOP under the misbegotten idea that it was the party of freedom, small government and would protect the culture, history and traditions of America. It is not, as you lable it, identity politics as practiced by the marxists you support.
Grow up. If America is so terrible given that it is still dominated by white Americans, why don’t you move to africa or mexico?
You are an idiot. Only an idiot (or a “liberal” – i know, redundancy) would deduce that because the “liberal” party self-identifies as being for minorities (regardless of the harm they cause to those minorities), that the conservatives automatically self-identify as “Whitey’s Party”.
But then again, anyone alert and awake knows that thought and logic is frowned on by the left.
Mary Grabar is largely correct in her critique. I had a similar critique here: http://clarespark.com/2012/11/09/race-and-the-problem-of-inclusion/. Although I give great weight to the role of the Communists and New Leftists in sorting people out through “race,” we should look back at the progressive movement in the early 20th century, for it was they who sorted people out through “racial” or “ethnic” categories as a riposte to the specter of proletarian internationalism.
Hey General, are you really stupid, or just play one on the net?
“Are Republicans willing to do the same thing?”
No we aren’t. The self righteous meanness of the political left is simply beyond the bounds of civil discourse. We care about the country, we care about living in a civil society. There is no room in such a place for hatred and condescension as practiced by the progressives. So we aren’t going to do it, even if the press would allow us to engage in the same slanderous rhetoric.
The comment above is typical. Slander and ridicule without a minimal thought behind it. I’ve spent many hours reading commentary on the computer and in the press since the election, and I think it is fair to say the rhetoric of the left has not changed one iota since the election. Never a conciliatory word from the victors to try and unite the country behind their guy, rather they seem to simply want to continue their self righteous ridicule of traditional Americans to vent their continuing irrational hatred, when nothing political is really at stake at the moment.
This morning in Leonard Pitts’ column printed in the Houston Chronicle, among other baseless slanders he accuses Republicans of “… wanting to electrocute immigrants…” by building a fence along the border. I see this kind of systematic defamation of good people every day in the press. And no one, not the Democrats, not the Republicans, certainly not the editors and publishes of the newspapers, will even question it. It has driven most of us out of public debate and does have an effect come election day.
And White Europeans need to protect themselves from it. It’s as simple as that. Going quietly to the trains didnt work out so well for Jews.
Anybody who claims to be a bunch of fried chicken chunks on the internet shouldn’t be taken seriously.
What you wrote amounts to a lie. If you have an argument, make it. Why resort to fakery?
The problem is that our forms of education are not “fun” “easy” “comforting” or about getting something for nothing. That is what liberal education is mostly about, it is also largely about blaming anyone and everyone EXCEPT the left for the situation we’re in today. Their system is Santa handing out free things and comforting lies, how CAN you beat that?
I tried to do it recently. I spent days arguing with someone through a mutual friends livejournal about all sorts of issues related to this election and the presidential candidates. She would have none of that, and every “solution” she presented boiled down to “blame someone (always republicans) and throw money at it until it fixes.”
So, what do you do? How DO you beat liberal education? Its about the easy way out, even in arguments its about taking the easy way out, “if you aren’t winning, just call them a racist, bigot, sexist, or any other hate term until they shutup.” You can’t win against the already brainwashed masses, we’ve had four years of our nation floundering and they still won’t accept the errors they’ve made. In four years, mark my words, they’ll still be voting liberal even when Obama has driven unemployment over 10% nation wide and the U6 reads at constantly over 20-25%, and our national debt is over $20 trillion. So our only hope is to reach kids, to give up on this current generation and go after the next one and hope there is still a country for them by then. But how do you reach them? With extremely liberal parents brainwashing them at home, an education system teaching them liberal ideas, and just liberal ideas being “easier,” how do you get through to them?
Everyone talks about what we SHOULD do… well… how do we do it? At this point, I don’t even think it can be done.
This blogger has been beating the drums, about the left’s hegemony over the educational system, And in no small measure, this hegemony morphs neatly with racial identity politics, and its veer off into class warfare. In other words, anything, and everything, to stir the divide is kosher. The racier the better.
The Paradox and Pitfalls of Liberal Democracies spells it out – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/08/21/the-paradox-pitfalls-of-liberal-democracies-in-a-time-of-immoral-relativism-the-havoc-wrought-by-leftist-academia-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/
The point is not to whine about them, but to BEAT them back,but it can’t be done without taking hold of the schools – from grade school on up!
It is too late to wait for college, in order to capture their hearts and minds. They have even infiltrated the kindergartens too.
Right you are! The Dept. of Ed sends out multiple missives about Pre-K ed initiatives. We will get the word to the people.
I find it helpful to disparage their critical thinking skills. Most of the young people coming out of college, should receive a Bachelor of Regurgetation! It is what they have earned!
What the Republican Party should do, what American conservatives should do and what white people should do are 3 separate issues.
White Europeans most certainly move to organizing themselves to participate in the New Left created Zeitgeist of Identity Politics. To not do so, is to lose by default. If you dont play the game, you are sure to lose. Organizing for political action, community legal defense of their rights, lawfare to make those who would infringe upon those rights feel pain, also build community bonds and ties, develop programs to bolster White European pride in their culture, history and traditions in the face of demonization, ridicule, and denunciation by others and in the media/popular culture. To provide legal defense when other groups legally assault White Europeans with harassing lawsuits, lawfare. College scholarships to promote our groups welfare through education. Anti discrimination lawsuits. Demanding justice for White European victims of hate crimes. Documenting crimes perpetrated against white Europeans and the spreaders of hate against them, like the ADL should do, but doesnt. I can keep going on and on.
That is what White Europeans in the US should do, at minimum, to protect themselves, and promote their well being in this climate.
What Conservatives or Republicans should do is another matter.
White European Americans need to take practical measures to protect themselves and promote their well being in this hostile environment. We need our own NAAWP, our own United Caucasian College Fund, our own Anglo-European La Raza, our own Congressional White Caucus, and our own organizations within organizations like our own White Student Councils where white European students have a chance to feel safe from the demonizaiton on campus that surrounds them every day, and comfortable discussing issues without having to censor themselves or worry about offending anybody.
That is what needs to happen, and ASAP.
What you are proposing, is pretty much what “American Renaissance” is.
http://www.amren.com/news/2012/11/will-the-us-follow-south-africa-down-the-path-of-white-decline/
The stuff you posted is indistinguishable from what white supremacists have been writing for years. Except for their dislike of Jews.
“The stuff you posted is indistinguishable from what white supremacists have been writing for years. Except for their dislike of Jews.”
Yep. And but for their anti-semitism and love affair with Adolf hitler, it seems that they have been very perceptive…and vocal…about what was coming and what should be done about the Left’s Multi-Culti and Diversity marketing campaign to White voters.
I wouldn’t worry overmuch about “what must be done” because the thing about racial identity politics is that it makes the target population racially aware.
Obama and his allies will be doing our organizing of Whites for us.
There’s a reason why Stormfront endorsed Obama. From their standpoint, everything is progressing wonderfully.
When you posted this, I went to that wretched forum and I read their thread in reaction to Obama’s reelection. Every single post was anti-Obama. Stop lying.
Sinz, you can keep demonizing Whtie European Christians to your hearts content. It is the reason that they need to organize themselves.
I suggest Jews not making themselves the enemy of White European Christians. We are natural allies. They will come for you too, and already are as we can see with regards too the Left, Western Minority groups, and Israel. Delegitimization of Israel and Zionism as Racism is ugly. Delegitimization of European Christian nations is just as ugly.
When the Left says that the racist supremacist Jews of Israel, need to allow mass Muslim immigration and create a open multicultural democracy that welcomes everybody and celebrates diversity, by disempowering Jewish Supremacist Xenophobes, it’s ugly. When it’s done to European Christians, it’s just as ugly.
Jews need to defend themselves and Israel, and White Europeans likewise have not only that right, but a moral duty to do so.
I believe you are sincere.
But you’re going to find that many of those in America who agree with you, have some strange ideas about Jews as well.
There’s an old saying: You’re known by the company you keep.
Good thing I dont keep to that company.
Much of the new European Nationalist movements and parties are pro Israel and philo-Semitic, expressing concern for protecting Jews from Anti-Semitic violence of the Islamic immigrants.
You are still fighting battles of the past. The new White Pan-Europeanism is more mainstream and less tainted by the Anti-Semitic fringe. Anti-Semites are flocking to the Left, where it has become not ostracized like on the Center Right, but lauded and praised, dovetailing with their new favorite minority groups with which to bash ethnic European Christians with, Muslims.
One thing is certain, dark times are coming for us all.
No, that’s not the right approach. You’re playing into their hands. More importantly, it’s morally wrong. We are Americans. Period.
“No, that’s not the right approach. You’re playing into their hands. More importantly, it’s morally wrong. We are Americans. Period.”
You are using the wrong pronoun.
There is no “We” in “We are Americans” when roughly 50 million people do not wish to be “We” under what they perceive as a White-defined America.
Sorry, but that’s the way it is.
nice, separate yourself into the republican party and don’t let anyone in, you perceive to be not of your kind. we are Americans, some of us are actually first nation people. like i have said before… add some water to the soup we got company. i think you are unwilling to indoctrinate other people in Americanism. Hispanics are white people by the way, last time i checked Spanish is a white European language.
Correction: Organizing yourselves outside the Republican Party.
Just think of the power of a White European block vote. Pander to Whites and pick any other group and you win. The political landscape will change overnight.
What is morally wrong about self-preservation? Discuss.
Self preservation is racist, dont you now Social Engineer. Just look at Israeli Jews, dont ya know.
I want nothing to do with such nonsense.
Guess what? You may not have any choice. You don’t get to chose your race.
I agree in that I wish this train wreck never got started, but that was then, this is now. It may already be too late to avoid a major race war. They started it.
There will never be a race war in America. No one’s going to go out and start killing people who’s doing well for themselves. Those who don’t do well would be well advised to never challenge those who do well. The Left exaggerates racial animosity. Left to our own devices, there is no problem in this regard.
Yes the Left forms policy around their goofy ideas, but fantasy will only get you so far. You can make quotas til the cows come home and it won’t uplift a stupid culture. We could assign a tutor from America to every citizen in Egypt and it wouldn’t change a thing. Creativity is either there, or it is not.
Dude, you’re an optimist.
I think we need to start using some of their own weapons against them. Start calling the NAACP racist scum (maybe pictures of people in black hoods ala the KKK. Start calling the GLAAD people heterophobic and start some straight pride parades. Stuff like that. The point being to show the absurdity of the left.
Howard Zinn is dead? What a relief! Too bad birth control wasn’t available to his mother.
Howard Zinn lives on through his books, textbooks, movies, plays, and tributes. He is worshiped by the Left. Little children read his Marxist propaganda in class.
Perhaps something can be done about that at the local or state level in those places where Republicans still exert control. A history or social sciences teacher using Howard Zinn’s books should not expect to have their contract renewed next year.
That’s the strategy, Gilligan.
As a student at Berkeley in the 1980s more than once “educated” students told me I look like a Nazi. I was born in the US in the 1960s, my parents voted for Kennedy and have never been to a Neo-Nazi rally, I did study German though. My point is that there is an element in liberalism that wants to stifle speech. My High School English teacher told us that it was the Mohamedan civilization that taught Europeans to wipe their bottoms. I vote Republican because with Reagan my father went from a 60% tax bracket to 30%.
Forget where the current President was born, his father never worked in this country and it shows in his rhetoric. Where is forward? Don’t people forget that Utopia means “Nowhere”. I saw no ideas about business in the Democrat rhetoric. If the government knows what the next “Apple” will be it will not be very innovative. People think government should drive culture. I agree with the article that racial politics is a very big problem. I fear that many are following a very divisive tune. When a democrat says “hey you country club Republican” he is saying you are my brother. In the age of televised debates how can conservatives put up a (in the words of Dr. Savage) “street fighter”?
Not a street fighter, but gentlemanly resolve, which I think Romney could have done if his handlers didn’t make him be a yes man on Obama’s foreign policy. Watching the debate I could just see he wasn’t comfortable doing that. You don’t have to be an angry thug. But you don’t have to be milquetoast either.
In 2004, Bush won 44% of the Hispanic vote.
If Romney had done that well with Hispanics, he would have swept Florida and the Southwest. States like Nevada are now only 55% white, 45% minority (mostly Hispanic). Without the Hispanic vote, Nevada is lost to the GOP. Romney even lost the Florida Cuban vote.
Without the Florida and the Southwest, no GOP candidate can ever win 270 electoral votes again. All the GOP will have left is the South, and that’s nowhere near 270 EVs.
Ranting incessantly about illegal immigration as if it was exclusively a Hispanic misdeed has not done much to win the hearts of “legal” Hispanics, uh? Anecdote: I speak Spanish and I used to work for a company in Ohio. Sometimes they would transfer international calls to me (Spanish and other languages.) Well one day this gentleman from somewhere in New Mexico, his name was Andrew Salazar. He spoke perfect American English. He was in fact a very well educated man, born in Santa Fe as I learned later. The Spanish line lit up and I picked up and greeted the caller in Spanish, naturally. John was not looking for any of the services we provided to people in the Spanish world. He wanted to talk with a manager about something else. He was derived to the Spanish line ONLY because his last name was Spanish. Well, he was sent back to the receptionist and he took a few minutes to explain to that idiot that his grandpa was a Great War veteran, his father was a Guadalcanal hero, and even himself served in the Navy during the Vietnam era. My question to those who think I am imagining things is: “What does John has to do to finally become American in the eyes of all?” Note that the receptionist was the daughter of a German immigrant arrived in the US many CENTURIES after the ancestors of Mr. Salazar (1590′ settlers of New Mexico arrived from Spain.) Go back to all the ranting against illegal immigration from Mexico in the comments found in this very venue for the last four years. I have news for you: for many Hispanics that kind of rabid discourse says one thing: “If those people take power they are not going to bother asking for my green card or my birth certificate, they are going to shoot first.” Call me anything like that lady that wrote yesterday that I am “full of crap” (great argument), I am as Conservative as they come but just because I want the best for the Conservative movement in this country I am telling you to reexamine your conscience on this issue. Don’t tell me: just go to a quiet place and do the best to be fair (no pun intended) in your heart of hearts.
You are a perfect example. 90%+ illegal immigrants are Latino, because USA does not border Poland, Cambodia, or Zimbabwe. So for some reason the thought, in most normal peoples’ minds, that “hey we have 12 million + illegal immigrants in this country, we need to do something about this, because its illegal and who knows what these people are doing” is somehow translated in Latino minds into “OMG if the Republicans win they’re going to put us all in camps!”?
How are we to rebut such irrational, racialist thinking? By standing at podiums and saying We promise we’re not using illegal immigration as a pretext for exterminating you? Do bodega owners born in Brooklyn or Pasadena think someone’s going to for them if Newt Gingrich gets elected?
Honestly, then these people are being hysterical and tribalist, and they are extraordinarily weak-minded.
How does this situation even get contextual iced in this manner if not by manipulators to begin with? I don’t care if they’re pure blond blue-eyed Bavarian cleavagey beer wenches: illegal immigration is clearly a problem, and – since these people knew they were breaking the law prior to the act – the burden is on them, not us, just it would be on me, not the Austrian or Russian or Egyptian government if I jumped their border seeking “economic opportunity” and “escape from Amerika.”
This is self-evident. This whole conversation is stupid and – since you’re not stupid – disingenuous, conducted by manipulative assholes like yourself.
Well said, except the name calling makes you sound so, er, progressive. Perhaps you have been reading The Daily Kos recently.
Catina, maybe you saw a different campaign than I, but I really don’t recall much in the Romney campaign about illegal immigration. In these and other blogs, yes. We’re concerned about it because we fear it will change the country and not for the better. We already have Mexican food and Mariachis. The corrupt politics and tendency to elect leftist dictators is not so welcome. But, we fear, it comes as a package in those who will not assimilate to our culture.
Exit polling data I have seen indicates the immigration is not really that high on Hispanics political issues list, as opposed to the priorities of their leadership. Racial politics 101.
The Republican establishment is well aware of the efforts of the Democrats and progressives to equate concern about illegals with prejudice against Hispanics. And there is some of that. It’s part of the human condition. But racial identity politics is an art pretty much exclusively practiced by the left these days. Republicans and conservatives, regardless of their feelings deep down, realize that any remarks that can be interpreted as even vaguely racial in character will be used to tar and feather them until eternity.
Well said period. Ridicule is a powerful weapon. People avoid being ridiculed naturally and so avoid holding to precepts that are ridiculed. People want to be loved and accepted by larger society. More ridicule is what is needed. Incessant and virulent ridicule. It’s an effective strategy for ostracizing bad ideas from social acceptance.
Well I personally would like to make an exception for cleavigy beer wenches wherever they come from.
Catino, you’re no conservative. Your comments reek of ethnocentrism and are of no interest to me. Balls and strikes. It is what it is. That’s conservatism. Hispanics from the Third World ARE in fact largely the problem. Are they children they need to be excused? They must be since they cannot order their own societies, control their birth rate or feed their own children. The shanty towns throughout Latin America are a disgrace, and many of them are indistinguishable from a normal LA city.
You anecdote makes no sense. What this person was objecting to was disparate treatment based on perceived identity. What Mary recommends here is the opposite. So if you feel so weepy over the misapprehension by race this person experienced during a service call, take it up with the people who categorize us by racial identity, not the people who oppose doping so.
Is that clear enough for you? Because this sort of prattling on about how people should feel inside is offensive. Spend a little time with your logic before you presume to tell me anything about my heart, pal.
Interestingly, the replies to your comment have made your point even more vividly and concretely than your comment itself.
The Republican party has an “it’s their fault” problem with non-whites. Unfortunately it will be a mighty difficult one to address, because that attitude is not really being driven by the opinion-makers so much as it is bubbling up from the base and being mirrored back to them for monetary and political gain by those at the top.
As I said before, when the Republican party captured the South, they never realized that the South was also capturing them.
Read it again folks: what I am saying is IN POLITICS PERCEPTION IS REALITY. Your insults and your reading something else in my simple anecdote proves my point to a tee. Why do you insult? Strong reasonable arguments are much more useful. Keep it up, you see how nice it works on election day.
Indeed, and because the perception of reality is created by the Leftwing MSM after years of indoctrination in the education system, there will be no other perception of reality, other than demonization of white European/Christian/Males.
That is why it is imperative as a practical matter for White Europeans to protect themselves via organizing and development of identity politics institutions….for defense of their rights and promotion of their culture, well being and interests.
“If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And when I am for myself, what am ‘I’? And if not now, when?” – Hillel
My own grandfather on my mother’s side was what we would today call an illegal alien.
He immigrated to America from Russia around 1925. His papers were never in order. On top of that, he was a Communist. After he got here, he quickly joined the Communist Party USA and began agitating for Communism. But if he had never come here, I would not be here today.
My conscience on this issue is clear.
And next time, don’t paint with such a broad brush.
Bush won that much for many reasons:
(1) He was denied a Hispanic justice
(2) He was pro-amnesty
(3) He knew the culture, spoke Spanish, etc.
(4) Elian Gonzolas
Hard to duplicate such a perfect storm.
“…I am one of the last wave of immigrants…”
Immigrants don’t just arrive uninvited. Who is welcome to America and who is not is decided by the same self-appointed elites who dominate our foreign policy, our universities and our media.
The browning of America is engineered. And supported enthusiastically by the Democratic Party.
@David: may be browning is the irreversible future now, engineered or not. Remember that the Marxist ideologues are mostly of European ancestry. That sh*t comes from Europe, not from Guadalajara, buddy. Deal with it: we are all brothers or we are all slaves. Your choice.
I do seem to recall lots of socialist rhetoric from south of the border, regardless of where it originated. There as well as here, free goodies paid for by taxing “the man” has never ending appeal to the underclass. Only when they are educated to realize that it kills the economy and with it their jobs and their chance to escape poverty and dependency, will they be receptive to free market arguments.
Catino: “Remember that the Marxist ideologues are mostly of European ancestry.”
So are the American concepts expressed in the Constitution, in most of our legal structure, and in our values and traditions, from England more precisely. (See the book: “Albion Seed”, wherein overwhelming evidence is presented.”)
And God bless them for that. Let me explain again:
Group European Ideas: composed of subgroup “good” (smaller) and subgroup “bad” (bigger)
Your task: separate “good” from “bad”
European radicalism is a sickness. The glorious and anomalous English tradition of liberty is not. The American application of that glorious tradition since 1776 is QUITE ORIGINAL and GOOD even when some elements of it borrowed some of their force from a few radicals (like Tomas Payne, or Jefferson.) Nothing is perfect but the American Model did a pretty good job for a century or two.
Notice that England is quite unique in that respect. Perhaps some Scandinavian countries could be compared but then of course their influence on the rest of the world has been minimal.
I talk to Hispanics regularly. They are far more ambitious and upward mobile than African Americans. African American Harlem is moribund; Spanish Harlem is a hive of commercial activity. Hispanics mainstream economically and socially in one or two generations; African Americans remain out in the cold and resentful.
But if they are enthusiastic capitalists, Hispanics not so embracing of American democracy. Hispanics don’t buy into the American narrative. The Founding Fathers were White guys. Slave owners.
I live in NYC not Coeur d’Alene, Idaho. But this last election makes the racist white argument more compelling. In Balkanized America, racism rules.
Exactly. Somewhere in hell, Bull Connor is smiling.
The Southern States were balkanized after the Civil War.
Forgot to sign my name. Another point:
Hispanics, in my experience, resent being associated with or confused for African Americans. But for conservative lip service for a FOX paycheck, Juan Williams is in lockstep with his liberal African American media counterparts. Not so the ordinary Hispanic on the street. An Hispanic musician will extoll the African roots of his music on PBS. On the street, sotto voce, Hispanics express shocking prejudice against African Americans.
So why was Hispanic support for Obama so enormous? In Hunts Point before the election, an otherwise intelligent and very savvy Puerto Rican ex-con assures me that Obama is Hispanic. Insists that Obama speaks Spanish. Insists moreover that the President and the First Lady rose from impoverished beginnings. Nothing I say shakes his certainty.
Why? Because he’s a true believer. He’s voting for an idol of color. Rational thinking does not apply. His opinion and his vote is driven by faith not politics.
I don’t speak Spanish and I don’t tune into Spanish language media. But I know Obama was sold to Hispanics and sold hard.
I live in Spokane, WA and that crap about the KKK pisses me off. The jerk that caused the perception of white supremacy has been gone for years and we have a new contingent of CA people screwing up our system the same as you.
In fact I am not the keeper of the entirety of Latin America. There are borders. I must respect those of Latin America while you must not respect mine. I say to hell with that.
Sorry, you are dumber than a bag of rocks. What our “white” elites want are slaves. Communism, socialism, marxism or any other color of the same coin is an old OLD ideology. In Europe it was called feudalism and they miss it. They are going to bring it back and they need stupid, illiterate slaves in order to complete it.
This whole American idea of a middle class where people have economic mobility and enough of their own stuff that they don’t covet their neighbors stuff just doesn’t wash with the “white” elite.
These people aren’t noble. Their motives can be boiled down to: What good is being rich if you can’t rub the peon’s faces in it?
I think this is exactly right. It explains why 8 of the 10 wealthiest counties in the country voted O. The Republicans are not the party of the rich. The Democrats are, and they’ve become the dominant party, by buying the votes of the poor.
And also David the Islamification of Israel is also inevitable, deal with it buddy! The nativist xenophobic Jews of Israel must come to terms with their future status as being ruled by Muslims, just as Anglo Americans must come to terms with their being ruled by Hispanic Latin Americans.
Hope that makes it clear what kind of person Catino is.
I won’t be there to rule you buddy. I am about 5,000 miles due south from New York. And I am smart enough not too see the world as a dominate or be dominated game. Can you present an argument without verbal violence? Apparently not. The votes went the wrong way because of the PERCEIVED animosity against Hispanics and other groups inside the GOP and Tea Party. FOR THE Nth TIME: I am not saying that it is true, sir. I am saying THAT IS THE PERCEPTION because one obnoxious or brainless person can impress thousands negatively. More so when the public they are “impressing” is simple minded or not well educated.
I propose that the US adopt a mirror image of Mexican immigration policy.
That way, all cries of racism and xenophobia can easily be passed onto the Mexican polity. Mexicans will be calling themselves racist supremacist xenophobic nativists….and it will be absolutely delicious.
Any Latin American countries up for 10s of millions of Norte Americano gringo colonists? Thought not.
I recall Obama pleading with Latinos to help him defeat his “enemies”. Who might they have been? However, pulling votes from any group is easy if you do a few things well, such as:
1. Don’t go anywhere near the uterus. When asked about abortion or contraception, lie.
2. Lie about your opponent. Convince every identity group that your opponent
wants to destroy them. Lie your ass off here for the best results.
3. Lie about everything else such as debt, the economy, jobs, etc.
4. Make certain no-one on your ‘side’ contradicts any of your claims (lies).
These are the ingredients for a successful campaign for President. We saw most of them used repeatedly this last election cycle. Many people are just stupid, so lying to them is not a crime. They may also be too lazy to discover the truth or are busy with bread and circuses and can’t be bothered. The Dream Act, Amnesty, the Border- lie,lie,lie. After you get their vote, lie some more when they ask why you haven’t kept your promises.
These “failed policies of the past” have built this country to be the dominant country in the world. Look around as you drive and you can be 98% confident everything you see was engineered and built by a man usually white. The exceptions are in the southwest with Mexican labor.
If we took the other easy path we would be hunting game, fishing, looking for low-hanging fruit or maybe we could even have a cow, pigs and chickens and work a small plot.
Just what is it are these residents in the Barrio and the Ghetto engineering and building these days? Counseling us to be more like them and currying their favor is a road to serfdom. Life is hard for everyone, we must take personal responsibility for ourselves and being skillful takes practice and sacrifice.
No – we built the southwest, too. There was nothing there when we bought the land from Mexico and the only reason they want it back is because there is infrastructure there now. Our infrastructure.
However, if you look at areas taken over by the mexicans it remsembles the slums they came from. They have no notion of upkeep or basic sanitary practices.
Once the white flight is complete the basic power to these new slums will fail for lack of maintenance.
Let it fail. This is over and I no longer care. I’m just going to find me a nice WHITE CHRISTIAN little town somewhere and go Galt. I’d rather spend my last days in fellowship with like minded people than watch the destruction I’m likely to see where I’m at now.
You know, lolly, you have the germ of a great idea there; only implementing it on a grand scale will take a little time.
Let me explain. If you look at the election results, state-by-state then county-by-county, you will find that even in Illinois and Iowa, for example, it was the major metropolitan areas that carried the blue candidate to the winner’s circle. Geographically, the majority of those states is red. These red voters need to consider moving to red states where their growing numbers will guarantee 100% Republican (and I do mean conservative Republican) electoral victories at the state and national level. For example, we have here in AZ a red-leaning majority but with just enough lefties to ensure the election of a Juan Grijalva, Ed Pastor, and Ron Barber. Lots of other red-leaning states have the same “problem.” In other words, we’re too diluted across the country, and we cannot compete against the end-justifies-the-means opponents we face: witness the rampant voter fraud in Philadelphia, Ohio, and specifically in the race in south Florida where Allen West’s district is reporting 141% voter turnout in some precincts!
I do believe that over time, if the leftward, totalitarian tilt of our Federal government continues, these red states will gradually begin to resist Federal mandates — eventually on a grand scale. It has become clear to many of us that the cards as they stand are stacked against us and that our only recourse is to begin a full-scale Galt against our post-Constitutional government. It’s possible, of course, that removing ourselves from the left’s dominion at the state level will give us enough leverage to push back the juggernaut, reverse course, and rebuild. But I doubt it.
“It’s racial politics. And you don’t beat them by adopting them.”
You don’t huh?
Lets look at the election voter tallies by race again.
91 million Whites voted in this election.
30 millions Blacks and “Hispanics” voted.
6.3 million “Others”,(whatever that means), voted.
9 out of 10 Black voters voted Obama, as did 7 out of 10 “Hispanics”, and 4 out of 10 Whites.
Obama’s margin of victory was 60 million to Romney’s 57 million ballots.
If White people had voted for Romney by the same margins that “Hispanics” voted for Obama, we would be loooking to Inaugurate Romney and Ryan.
If White people had voted for Romney by the same margin that B;acks voted for Obama, it would have been a landslide, and Romney would justifiably be claiming a mandate.
I would say that these numbers pretty decisively dismiss your assertion.
Not only CAN you beat them by playing their racial politics/race war game, you MUST overtly make the GOP the White people’s party to defeat them…and if you are White or Republican, you had better make sure that the word gets out and that the voters do too.
Don’t worry about “what THEY will say”, or “what they will call us”…they call us that already, and they act accordingly.
One last word about the Marxist Left’s effort to “grow” the underclass proletariat:
It’s peculiar that the radicalization only takes effect during Presidential elections. In the mid-terms, it appears that their foot-soliders mostly stay at home, and so the Congress and the State Capitals and Assemblies stay in White hands.
What we have here is simply a good old-fashioned Marxist “Cult of Personality”…but that only lasts as long as the Personality at its core is politically viable.
And Obama has just become a lame duck.
You may also note that there is a lack of viable candidates on the DemocRatic side being groomed to replace him, (although with the Marxist Corporate Media’s ability to market a candidate regardless of his flaws, God only knows what the DemocRats will excrete in 2016).
This is pretty much what I think. Raise the racial consciousness of white voters to the level of the other ethnic groups and the Republicans start winning elections again.
Whatever brings a decent government but I rather have the minorities voting intelligently and everyone getting along. E Pluribus Unum?
Uh-ah. Not any more. It’s now: A unam in multos / from one into many.
Three cheers. However, the electoral process is forever ruined. The left has so corrupted the voting process that we will never win the senate or WH again. And as long as Odummer and demoncrats continue to give away the store, we will never command either end of Pennsylvania Ave.
And forget at least 20% of the white vote. Like the examples here, they just don’t or will not get it. Either they are blissfully ignorant or galactically stupid but they will never vote for white conservatives.
There will be blood and agony in our future. The only way to get America back is to take her back. To borrow the lefty phrase: “By any means necessary.”
If that is your goal and you want to have a snowball’s chance in hell of accomplishing that in four short years the only way is to give Obama all the rope he wants. I suspect that might be behind Boehner’s offer to compromise. You will not turn those who are true believers, incorrigible takers or racist from the left. But you can easily peel off those who have unwittingly bought the leftist bill of goods.
All Republicans need to do to compromise on immigration is trade. Legalize the lawful, deport the criminals and pinch off the benes for those who don’t pass muster to become legal. Don’t come back with theFACT that we are addressing those who are already illegal. That piss went down the pipe.
“The middle class was the hurdle, a la Karl Marx — until Obama’s rhetorical appeals and after decades of reeducation in the schools. Changes in immigration and the War on Poverty that placed massive numbers on welfare roles finished the job. The educators made sure that the new immigrants received an education steeped in anti-Americanism. Today, Howard Zinn’s Marxist A People’s History of the United States is assigned in high schools and college classes, and is adapted for middle school and even elementary school. Bill Ayers’ books are widely used in colleges of education, and he often speaks on college campuses.”
It all comes down to socialism, what the government can do and GIVE you. Do you honestly think that all those blacks and hispanics voted for Obama because they thought a second Obama administration would give them a more robust economy that would help them find good jobs to support their ever-growing financial needs? Not a chance and you know it.
It was all about entitlements and what “free stuff” the government could hand out to every ethnic group out there. To the blacks and Hispanics, that meant just about “free” everything, from food stamps and endless unemployment and “disability” benefits to free education, housing, and government or government-subsidized jobs. Just keep the free stuff coming in and you’ll get the vote. That hideous cartoon “The Life of Julia,” so mocked when it came out, proved to be a real winner among single women, especially if you were a single woman with a child and no husband “hanging around” to help pay the bills. Who really needs a husband when you have Uncle Sam? THAT was the message the Democrats promoted and the sad fact of the matter is that it worked.
Rush Limbaugh is right. I really don’t know how you compete against Santa Claus. And when you have one party that promises to be Santa Claus to just about everybody out there and says that all we have to do to pay for all of it is to tax the “rich,” then it’s hard to fight an argument like that.
And even when it all comes crashing down on them, like it is now in Europe and especially Greece, when they will be faced with massive unemployment and social unrest along with sky-high taxes, no economic growth, and little economic opportunity, the liberals will STILL blame the “rich” for not paying their “fair share.” “Social justice” (a.k.a. socialism) won last week and we’re sailing down the road to Greece and there isn’t much that can stop us. A Republican-controlled House of Representatives can slow it down a bit, but even if the government simply maintains current spending we’re still going to be bust by 2016.
The socialists and communists in America have done their job well. They’ve proven that the “long view” in politics is the correct one. That is, of course, until we go bankrupt and end up like Greece. Then who will they blame? Why those “evil” rich people and capitalism, that’s who. And their solution will be outright communism, not even socialism anymore. It’s happening in Europe, folks, especially in places like France, where they just passed a law to tax 75% of what those “evil” rich people make. Can’t happen here, you say? Talk to me in 2016 and then let’s see who is right.
“I really don’t know how you compete against Santa Claus.”
The trouble is, you cannot. The fact that 4 out of very 10 among white voters supporting Obama shows just how deeply entrenched our country has become into the pit of entitlements. Remember, even Tea Party goers could be heard shouting “Hands off my Medicare!” The Republican Party even does what it can to jump on the “Santa Claus” bandwagon with No Child Left Behind & drug benefits added to Medicare. That 4 out of 10 level of support for Obama resulted from those millions of potential Pub candidate supporters staying home. The thing to do, IMO, is let the left have its way & allow the whole thing to come crashing down, thereby destroying all vestiges of their credibility (Dems AND Pubs who go for all this entitlement spending). Perhaps then we can all start again from the proverbial square one & have a chance to do it up right.
Which is why White European Americans need to organize themselves, embracing identity politics for their own protection and well being, in this New Zeitgeist. You dont need 100% white support to build this support system and infrastructure, and when it inevitably starts producing positive results and benefits for White European Americans, then more will join, or at least become more and more sympathetic to these White Identity Politics instittuions….which stand up for Whtie European rights and interests.
I don’t know if we’re quite far down that road enough to pass ourselves off as an “oppressed minority” but that day is coming. Will we fight or wind up facing the same fate as the whites in South Africa?
I’m not sure I’d call Social Justice “Socialism”.
I see it as something else, what I call “Social Vengeance”.
Social Vengeance isn’t about lifting up the disadvantaged. It’s about punishing those who AREN’T disadvantaged (not just the fabulously well off, but quite literally anybody who isn’t living day-to-day on the absolute brink), all to soothe the anger of the ‘lower class’ with nothing but schadenfreude.
It’s about nothing but stoking the fires of Revenge in people’s hearts and minds so that they’ll never think about what it would take to actually improve things. And it encourages selfishness so that even if you think it COULD be improved, that it will only improve 3 or 4 generations down the road, and never for you.
Social Vengeance is little more than an emotional distraction, and as currently constructed, education is little more than factories to filter people further into their new caste system and instill the feelings of Social Vengeance into their being (This is why despite all the education talk, and talk of ‘forgiving student loans’, Progressives never actually make talk of DRAGGING DOWN THE COST of education to make it easier for people, especially adults a little later in their life, to be able to attend college. They’re more set in their ways and would only be there in order to acquire new job skills and the credential to put on their resume. They’re not interested in the Social Vengeance brainwashing, unless they were already hooked in their Primary/Secondary schools.)
Sadly, I have little to no idea what conservatives can do to extinguish the Progressive flame of Social Vengeance.
Sadly, I have little to no idea what conservatives can do to extinguish the Progressive flame of Social Vengeance. – K
Indeed. But what White European Americans can do is organize themselves for mutual protection and promotion of their groups interests….just as a practical matter.
Conservatives have lost, they arent the Establishment anymore, they are the counter culturalists opposition.
White people need to adjust to that reality, and organize.
Only problem with that is, despite being raised by a white family (and yes, they are my birth family, I’m not adopted), by your reckoning, I’m not white (white father, black mother).
You suggest that I should be disowned (for being half black) and tossed into the Progressive wilderness just by circumstance of birth, despite the fact that I reject Progressive Fabianism.
Just how are the multi-raced supposed to be squared? Back to the odious “one drop” rule?
You can identify as white and join those orgs and partake of their benefits if you want.
In South Africa Coloreds organize themselves, maybe go that route.
To say that white Europeans shouldnt organize themselves for protection and promotion, because you dont fit in, isnt a good argument for them not doing so.
I think that Conservatives and Republicans should continue to promote color blind policies and traditional values and equality before the law. That has nothing to do with White European Americans organizing for their own protection and well being.
“Just how are the multi-raced supposed to be squared? Back to the odious “one drop” rule?”
You have to answer that question for yourself.
Maybe you should ask Obama why he chose to identify himself as “Black” and trashed his White grandmother who had a lot more to do with his upbringing than his Black father EVER did as a “typical White person”, but in his personal life, he “acts White”,(married to the mother of his children, attends church, prizes formal education for himself and his family, etc).
You should also go off into the Liberal and Black blogosphere and demand the same question of them. They are the ones who voted for the “Black” candidate in greater percentages than Whites voted for the White guy.
And they are the ones who overtly pandered to minorities and played racial and ethnic politics.
So if you’re feeling written off, then realize that you’ve been written off by BOTH sides, not just those of us that you feel you can talk to,(ie: White Christian Conservatives).
I think you are misreading what we are saying. We, the right or conservatives, do not care what color you are. We care about whether you are American first, love America, believe in limited government, liberty, freedom, hard work, and being black second or third (whatever-no hyphens allowed). It is the left who puts people into groups for the purposes of identity politics, grievences, victimhood, etc…
Right blotto, but given the current situation of demonization, legal discrimination against, and hostile disempowerment of white Europeans….white Europeans need to organize themselves and participate in the current system of Identity Politics, which is a spoils system among other things. White Europeans need to pull together collectively and play the game that is the Established system, else we are railroaded by default.
That doesnt mean that we shouldnt support color blind policies, equality before the law, private property rights, individual rights, freedom and liberty, rule of law, limited government, etc. as conservatives.
Afraid you’re right about competing against Santa. Any better explanation for Allen West, incumbent, veteran, black, apparently losing in Florida?
I have the explanation.
After the 2010 Census, redistricting redrew the boundaries of his distrct so that the electorate was no longer as supportive of conservative Republicans.
americans will roll over
surrender to our enemies
and march to the slaughter
our cities walled ghettos
the landscape slave farms
a sub-human wasteland
concentration camps
Guess again ….
it’s a matter of time
don’t be surprised
when it happens
you were told
and it’s happening
already
The re-education camps are already flourishing in public schools (at least the ones that still function) and most colleges and universities. I have observed, though, that a lot of younger members of the professoriate (including a few I’ve helped recruit) are real scholars rather than propagandists. There may be hope. The text book I use in one class compares jihadism with communism and fascism as great examples of genocidal totalitarian regimes. Not all is lost.
“9 out of 10 Black voters voted Obama, as did 7 out of 10 “Hispanics”, and 4 out of 10 Whites.”
So who are the real racists?
“So who are the real racists?”
WE are.
And it will not matter one iota what Whites do or do not do or how many trillions we waste on “social justice” and “economic equality” boondoggles…we will STILL be the racists, and the Corporate MSM, Academia, and the Professional Minorities will be more than happy to label us so.
So f*ck it…you might as well “own” it if you’re going to be punished for it anyway.
I wonder if potus was on entitlements when he was community organizing. Could it be possible?
Excellent, on target article that identifies the enemy with lots of interesting comments. The culture that was built from the foundation is identifiable and much of the philosophy is a diversion unless it leads back quickly to restoring culture. You know it answer and it isn’t hate; it is love of children now and in the future. What is the single most feared enemy of Communism? Judeo-Christian biblical beliefs. Would that all the splinter groups of those respecting the Bible would recognize that they have a common enemy that has invaded America and slowly closing the noose.
Sorry Joseph, that isnt going to save the Europeans from being dhimmified under Islamic immigrant rule.
You cant love your way out of that.
“The diverse, creative, younger coalition that propelled the first black president — a guy whose middle name is Hussein — to the presidency, beat back what may well have been the last stand of Ronald Reagan’s coalition of plutocrats, white working-class men and religious conservatives.”
These guys in the Soros/AlterNet crowd don’t care that the first 1/2 black president is an incompetent, narcissistic, socialist moron.
Their entire agenda from the get-go has been destroying this nation as constituted and rebuilding it from their own ideas, killing once and for all those foul principles enunciated by that crowd of old white men in the 18th century.
Economic chaos is integral to the scheme, ask Frances Fox-Piven and Van Jones.
They’re well on track. And even have some Supreme Court justices in their pocket, with more to come.
It seems to me that the electorate voted to become a country-wide Detroit or Greece. I can no longer see any way out of the coming financial collapse.
Take over, form a new government, and disavow the debts of the old one. It’s standard practice after most revolutions. Heck, the Republicans could just nominate a candidate who promises to repudiate the US debt, watch the US credit rating tumble, and so checkmate the big-borrow and spend plans of the Democrats.
Secession would disavow any sovereign Federal Debt. Then the seceding states could form their own union, afresh….and ditch universal suffrage which helped get us into this mess (as our wise Founders foresaw).
Yeah but then the seceding states might have crappy Olympic teams. not to mention not being invited when the cool kids finally bomb the crap out of Iran. which as a peacenick i cant admit to looking forward to.
Well, you make the United States a less hostile place to do business. Use executive orders to remove EPA regulations that make it prohibitively expensive to convert gasoline vehicles to run on compressed natural gas or switch back to gasoline. Overnight garages would be working overtime to do the conversions and although the price of natural gas would go up leading to gas wells being uncapped and more gas drilling, the price of gasoline would drop as demand drops. The lower price of transportation would lead to lots of additional business as people have more money available. Double the numbers of employees required for government mandates and reporting. If the government regulations currently kick in for 50 employees, they now kick in at 100 and so on. Watch employment rise substantially.
Oh, yeah. We lost Tuesday. Nevermind.
And the price of oil deflate….disempowering our Islamic enemies. But we;re not allowed to call them our enemies are we, I mean that would be racist and xenophobic, supremacist even.
First principles. Until you identify them, you’re arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
Start with what it means to adopt, endorse and embrace individual freedom and personal liberty.
If you can’t do that, and apply the outcome to others, as well as to yourselves, you’re just blowing smoke. iow, lots of ‘Sound and fury, signifying nothing.’
If your olicies do not limit your ownfreedoms, how do they limit the fredoms and liberties of others? It’s a given that they do limit the freedoms of others. The factual evidence is overwhelming. (Which behavior on your part is no different than that of your opponents.)
For extra credit:
The last time the Republicans were in charge, they spent money like drunken saiors and enacted more laws than any previous congress. Government didn’t decrease in size and scope, it expanded almost exponentially. How is this behavior any different than that of your opponents? Yes, your opponents do the same or worse, but how is your behavior any different than theirs? Remember, they also claim that their motives are pure. Like you, they claim that their actions are only in the best interests of other Americans. (From an objective pov, both sides are liars.)
Define your differences using only individual freedom and liberty as your meterstick and constitutional constructionism as your guide.
First principles ?
How about the principle that your individual liberty has absolutely nothing to do with what government decides to grant or withhold ?
How about that each and every human being is free to rise or fall on his or her own merits and efforts, not limited by a caste system or some feudal arrangement or whether or not he/she comes from a connected family ?
How about that this federal government is constructed to be highly limited and circumscribed, with powers not specifically granted reserved to the states and to the people ? (10th amendment)
(well, that last one has become a joke)
At this point, the republican party is still (just barely) more in line with first principles than what has become of the democrat party.
If you don’t get that, Warren, you don’t get it.
The government has nothing to do with our liberties and freedom? Heh. That’s errant nonsense.
…until you arm American citizens and take the government’s standing army away from it. In case you hadn’t noticed, the government has bigger guns than you do. (A license to own a gun *is* defacto gun control, limiting your freedoms and liberites.)
The government has nothing to do with our liberties and freedom? Heh. That’s errant nonsense.
The fact that government has usurped and trammeled individual rights and a lazy and self-indulgent citizenry has allowed that to happen doesn’t negate a first principle, Warren.
Maybe you’d agree with Barack when he twice quoted the Declaration of Independence in the past 2 years and left out the phrase “endowed by our Creator” (with certain unalienable rights) as he pompously and self-righteously referenced that document?
This current crowd is supremely focused that anything good or positive in your existence comes from them, their generosity, their good offices.
As long as you behave yourself.
A complete perversion of “first principles”.
What you can’t see is that the right in America is as guilty as the left. Both sides want to limit, indeed, have already have limited – and continue to limit – the freedoms of other Americans. …all for our own good, of course…because you know what’s best for all of us. In this behavior, you are no better, and certainly less honest about it, than your opponents.
You preach small government and balanced budgets, but you endorse and fund huge bureaucracies (DHS, TSA, Medicaid Drugs, the War on Drugs, even endorsing and supporting the first TBTF bailouts, among others.) and otherwise spend money like drunken sailors when you’re in power. Yes, the left is almost exponentially worse, but that gives you no excuse.
The author is right: most people don’t care as much about economics as the right-wing pundits of a certain kind will have you think. It’s quite simple. Minorities who vote Democratic are motivated by fear and “revenge” (as Obama put it) against white folks. The whites who vote Democratic are in their own mind motivated by high-minded feelings toward minorities and foreigners, but actually by a need to feel superior to the (often less fortunate) people that are closest to them. The whites who vote Republican are motivated by an obsolescent ideology of anti-Communism, which worships “Capitalism” simply because Marx was against it. As Stanislaw Lem once observed, the two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.
The whites who vote Republican are motivated by an obsolescent ideology of anti-Communism, which worships “Capitalism” simply because Marx was against it.
That’s BS.
Having done a whole semester course in Marxism, I think I know why I’m opposed to Karl’s little scheme, why I favor a laissez-faire relationship between consumer and producer.
Not to mention that Marxist socialism, where and whenever it has been tried, has failed miserably, being antithetical to the human spirit.
You could use a little education in Milton Friedman
I’ll just stick to some quotations, so as not to stress your brain too much.
Suggesting that conservatives attempt to start their own “Long March” through the schools and media is a losing proposition.
By and large, conservatives tend to be far too trusting, and worse yet, oblivious, when it comes to the idea of Progressive infiltration and sabotage. Once Progressives got control of the schools, of the media, of Hollywood, they started demanding constant Tests of Loyalty.
No matter how good of a liar a conservative is (and they’re NEVER as good of a liar as a Progressive), they’re going to either slip up, get disgusted with having to spread the Progressive message to prove their loyalty, become overwhelmed with it PIPO (Progressivism In, Progressivism Out) style and become converted through conditioning.
They’ll never have the opportunity to subvert Progressive/Fabian brainwashing.
Yep. Conservatives were held to their principles to gain access by Leftwingers. Leftwingers have no principles, except gaining power and retaining it.
You arent going to be hired or promoted largely if you are conservative in media and academia.
Hell if you posit Intelligent Design you will be persecuted, if not run out, and you certainly arent going to be granted access to Science Journals to publish.
Figure it out already. The Establishment is the Left. It’s time to start acting like outsiders and counter culturalists, building our own parrallel organizations, entryism, relentless discrimination against Leftwingers by any Conservatives with any hiring or promotion power inside the instittutions. Good enough and Conservative should trump, brilliant and Leftwing in any hire.
But alas…
Playing by the Marquis de Queensbury rules, and sticking to your principles, will only continue to produce failure.
Which is why White Europeans need to organize themselves for their own protection and well being in the New Zeitgeist.
“By and large, conservatives tend to be far too trusting, and worse yet, oblivious, when it comes to the idea of Progressive infiltration and sabotage.”
Outstanding point. Our pundits in and around the Beltway and NY always give the benefit of doubt regarding the machinations and evil ways of the left. I heard John Fund of AS this morning agian showing deference to the WH about the Libyan murders and CIA chief…
WE need new blood reporting on and investigating the left who will not be afraid to call the left marxists or African-Americans blacks…
An excellent article which hits the nail right on the head.
Unfortunately the only cure is to stop all immigration and kick out all illegals, the two things that will never be done.
Apparently not only is there some imagined shortage of people in America, but a shortage of the worst dreck from the Third World. The Third World is basically one giant slum with a thin smear of technology spread over it by someone else.
If you disagree, I assume you’ve never visited shanties in Rio de Janeiro, been to Guatemala City, Mumbai, Jakarta, Cairo, New Delhi, Agra, Lima, Belize City, Denpensar, or La Paz. They are a last place team. Why? I don’t know, I only know that they are. And it is consistent right across the Third World to a greater or lesser extent.
When it comes to non-white, for reasons best known to the insane mind of a liberal, every pitch shoulda, coulda, woulda been a home run. But the reality is a strike out, almost every time – at least by American standards.
Agreed, Fail, and we are not going to do anything soon to stop it, at least not that I can see. I have spent much of career in the State Dept. as a consular officer, and the majority of it in the 3rd world. I have people everyday stand before me, under oath, and lie their heads off so that they can get to the US, live illegally, get amnesty and eventually vote for Sharia law and/or free goodies from Big Daddy. I have told my Amcit friends back in the US that when we open our borders to the 3rd world we are opening them to the dregs of the world. These places are sh@th*les for a reason, and that reason is largely cultural. They have no cultural founding in liberty or actual individualism.
I asked an empty-headed (though nice enough), compassionate pro-immigration (legal or not) friend in NC once if she thought the US would be a place she’d like to live with 2 billion people in it, and every city pock-marked with real Burundi-level slums. Of course she was horrified (why, the environment would suffer!), and said no. I told her that, from my personal experience, if we implemented what she proposed that is what the US would end up looking like. And you know what was really the saddest? She believed me, but still wouldn’t change her opinion, and still voted for Obama twice. That’s what we’re up against.
While I am opposed to abortion on demand it does have the benefit of culling the liberal herd.
Which is merely replaced with mass Third World immigration and open borders, colonization. Really and even worse proposition.
Permit a different perspective.
I’ll tell you why I refuse to change my message for the possibility of enhancing the chances of winning an election. Because I speak truth and truth always wins out. As do most here on this board. I have not yet begun to fight either because I most certainly have not used all the tools at my disposal.
The Republican Party is neither racist nor the party of the rich. It is overwhelmingly white to be sure, but so were our forefathers and mothers, and this culture we all enjoy was the accomplishment of their works. I’m not apologizing for being born as part of that legacy. While we obviously have our own set of scoundrels, some with loud voice that need to be shut, Mitt Romney was not the problem. He was the solution and we rejected it because we are a majority nation of imbeciles.
To fix the nation, we don’t need more imbeciles.
Asking what are the core principles of the Democratic Party are like asking what is Obama’s economic plan. There are none, besides some loose fracturing of abortion rights and a nanny state.
Take no counsel of your fear when there is still much to be hopeful. But this idea is premised on each of you needing to be smart enough to protect you and your loved ones, and to have the strength to hold on for a very bumpy ride. That includes a steadfastness to our Constitution, protection of your assets, and yes, even protecting yourself against the mob – because sure as day, the mob is coming.
These progressives, liberals, whatever they call themselves today are a long-term losing proposition, both financially and politically. The Democratic Party is the Wall of Jericho, with thousands of microscopic cracks not easily seen, but when the earthquake hits, will bring the entire structure tumbling down.
The wall collapsing is imminent even as the Democrats begin to gain temporary power. And they will fail. Let’s review, as the results are already in. 2009-2012 was a disaster and even they realize it. They didn’t run on Obama’s record – they ran from it. To the best of my knowledge, Obama campaigned for no one but himself. Popular? Not with the people that count. The fact they were once again able to fool the uneducated, the helpless, the disenfranchised, and yes the stupid may be cause for concern, but it is certainly not a call to surrender.
When the earthquake hits, it is not the Republican Party that will collapse. And we should be ready to take charge when that day comes. Because the collapse is imminent.
Economic collapse is essential to the success of the socialist enterprise.
When the collapse comes, however, progressives/democrats won’t admit that they are responsible.
It will be George Bush’s fault, the fault of those greedy republicans in general.
Maybe the Asian tsunami, another Japanese earthquake.
No doubt. But they will also be forced to return to their masters who provided them crumbs. They can blame who they wish, but there will be no crumbs for their bellies because what little bread remains will remain with their masters. After time and like truth, the instinct for survival wills out. Then and only then, do I believe these blind fools will see the error of their own ways. Because I have found as a rule, no matter the nice words, the leaders of the liberal party are very generous with money – as long as it is not their own. Personal sacrifice I don’t believe in Barack Obama’s makeup.
And when the pain becomes unbearable, they will break and it will be ugly. They will be slaves without a home.
My only question is, will I be forgiving of the prodigal son and will I live long enough to see it.
Yes, it all must eventually come full circle.
But I’m dismayed, despondent even, that we have to go through the stupid learning curve again.
So even if you know some history, it seems you’re condemned to repeat it, as our emergent socialist cabal tells us (once again), “it” just hasn’t been done right and they are The Ones™ who will bring it correctly.
(Forgiveness is way over-rated. Jesus wouldn’t have put up with these idiots anyway, would have recognized progressives to be as corrupt as “scribes and pharisees” & the moneylenders.)
Don’t forget the all-time favorite: the Jews.
It is about race but since conservatives are ignoring the deeper messages about race they are giving liberals a free hand. Here is the thing that we forget. Marxism, Socialism, etc. are European philosophies ultimately and openly meant to benefit Europeans. When you accept the ideology you will eventually accept the dominance of those who have the biggest benefit to espousing it. America was always the last stand. You couldn’t beat ‘em, you couldn’t join ‘em and then suddenly there was an outlet. Finns for instance don’t hate America because we’re America they hate it because at some point there was a downtrodden Finn who came here and thrived. They were underfoot and then they were free. That is true for every America hating country worldwide. The University system is a European anachronism and ultimately of course walks in lockstep with the interest of the European trying to regain world dominance.
If you are Jewish you have seen this first hand. Liberals Jews always defer to their European betters. Being a second class citizen works for them if they know there are third and fourth class citizens. The same is now happening to Blacks, Asians, Hispanics and so forth. The person bringing the threatening bus is not working for his race (this is where we sigh and give up) he is working to set himself up for a fiefdom at his race’s expense. We must be the counterforce against these people. We must let them know the tyrant and traitor always lurks. He looks for the cracks and he despises those who get out from under the boot. He talks sugary words and hope when is not in control but yearns for greater power. The race traitor is now everywhere, looking for a strong man to secure his own position. The little Stalinist is the Democratic operative and Stalin is waiting for his time. There can only be one Stalin. He can only represent one dominant race (in Socialism there is always THE master race not even A master race). We are the guard against them and though we can not seduce we can do better. We can educate and arm. True nations and true races are not physical attributes but ideas and melded souls. That is what we are and what they are really fighting against. Do you think they can win if we fight the real war?
One of the reasons a majority of Europeans wanted Obama re-elected was so an arrogant America could continue to be brought down to their level, the European decline, being strangled by big government socialism as we speak.
Putin and the little creep in Venezuela “endorsed” Obama as well, although each has beeen known to disparage him in the past when it suited an agenda of the moment.
But the love of a weak America thrills the hell out of them.
Arachnidjihad, too. Shot at an American drone recently, information concealed from the American public before the election.
No consequences. No consequences for murder in Benghazi, either.
Isn’t now, this moment after the election, the time for all right thinking people to push for Voter ID laws? Isn’t it also the time for serious investigation of voter fraud?
No and yes. The best time to push for voter id in the US was before the election, but, of course, the democrats in the DoJ stymied that and will continue to do so. Pushing for voter integrity in the USA and in any other democracy is unendingly vital. I probably didn’t make many friends, around here, when I said that Honduras has a better electoral system than the United States, but I believe it’s true. It was no disrespect to Honduras, certainly a country with problems, but one whose democratic Constitution was upheld, a few years ago, in defiance of a disgraceful intervention from one Barack Hussain Obama. Obama wanted Honduras to re-instate a president whose term had expired, in a country whose constitution forbids consecutive presidencies. In Nicaragua, Daniel Ortega did the same thing, without a peep from Obama. Venezuela’s Chavez, stricken with cancer, has probably stretched his presidency out to about 2550, by now. Given Obama’s often displayed contempt for the US Constitution, are you really sure he’s there for only four more years?
Voter ID is important, if you live in a state where it is possible volunteer work can probably get it implemented. http://www.truethevote.org/ might be a good start . Blatantly blue states will be much more difficult, but if 80% of the country has voter ID and the states that don’t are the pits they will become, they might be shamed into it.
Burn the whole F**king thing down. Let the Bush tax break expire, let ObamaCare screw businesses and force layoffs. Let him impose more regulations, kill the coal industry. No deal on tax increases. No immigration deal. Obama, you own this ecomomy, no more GWB to blame, no more wheeling out Clinton to speak for you, you coward.
Let me be perfectly clear, do you think for a minute that Conservatives would get credit for Immigration Reform without control of the Senate or White House, are you kidding me? Do you think a deal with the Devils will tranlate into more votes for our side? Here is a perfect example, Conservatives were on the forefront for Civil Rights, each time shot down by DemocRATS, LBJ several times hammered the death spike into the GOP. When LBJ took control of the WH, he pushed for Civil Rights, yes the former Bigot was making this demand because he knew it would only help his party get credit and a shift the black vote to their side forever. Let’s not forget that MLK was a GOP conservative. You think down deep that LBJ cared about Blacks, based on his racist past? He couldn’t pass it on party lines, the biggest opposer was our one and only Climate Change pal, Al Gore’s father, a Democrat Senator from Tennesee, look it up. LBJ got it passed only with the GOP’s help. Without the votes of the GOP, civil rights would never have been passed in the 60′s on his watch. LBJ got the credit, what did the GOP get? Nothing, Blacks left the GOP rakes in droves, some thanks. The party that freed the slaves, was on the forefront of Civil rights, sponsoring 10′s of Civil Rights Bills, got screwed and received no credit for their efforts. Do you really think it would change if the GOP makes a deal for Immigration Reform? Get a grip. Imigration reform and free pass to citizenship will be the death null for this country and the GOP party. Here is the solution, Control the boarder, build a fence, deport illegals, fine companies employing illegals. With 20 MIL plus unemployed America’s why do people who break the law, coddled in sanctuary city’s, get free benifits, free college tuition, get to get to the front of the line with preferencial treatment before law abiding, tax paying US citizens. Is this fairness. I object and resist.
Vote out these moderate Conservatives.
On point! Well said.
No longer “It’s the Economy stupid” – here comes the new motto: “It’s the FRAUD stupid” ala Hugo Chavez “re-election.” A communistlight version of “it only matters who counts the votes.”
Long Live the new Third World USSA.
Oh, btw, take a look:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/10/florida-vote-twist-more-ballots-voters/
Just in case anyone had any doubts.
Good to see Allen West doing what Romney, Mia Love and a host of other Republicans should have done.
The LEFT cannot prevail in an intelligent, well-informed society. People like Bill Ayers require a dumbed-down elector, which is precisely what they have created through our universities, the MSM and Unholywood.
Been working at the dumbing down, conscientiously and assiduously.
For decades.
We’re here.
When 99% of any race votes b/c of the color of skin and not content of character it is obvious it is racism. Call me stupid I really thought we were over racism in America, but the proof is in Philadelphia, in Anne Maria Burekle race and all across this country. This was a coalition of Moochers, racist, and bullies. No more no less.
This creepy guy whose election to the presidency was going to put racism to bed once and for all (“they” claimed) has absolutely relied on divisiveness and identity politics for his political survival.
And we’re so dumb and lazy now, as a people, it has worked.
I’m happy I was born Caucasian. I didn’t earn it but there you are. I am happy to be White and would support almost anything that would lobby for White Rights and Entitlements. We are overdue after all these years supporting dead beats and welfare queens.
Elections in Florida is a good example of how the third-world democracy operates. Congratulations, America!
Col. West isn’t taking it sitting down. Fight on, Colonel!
Yeah, West has a spine. Go West!
West/Palin or Palin/West 2016
The world has repudiated virtue.
Is there more to say?
It would probably help the GOP if their base didn’t sound so much like a Klan rally in these comment sections.
Sure Suzanne, we’ll temporize comments in the name of political correctness, the doctrine that espouses you can “pick up a turd by the clean end”.
By the way, the Christian Copt living in California who made the infamous video (The Innocence of Muslims), has just (post-election) been sentenced to a year in prison for parole violation.
Since Barack was far and away the candidate of choice for Muslims voting in America, they must be mightily pleased at this imposition of “justice”.
Obama’s frequent White House visitors from CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood (“destroy the miserable house of the unbeliever from within”) are also pleased as punch.
“parole violation”
Probation violation, not even parole.
Gotta be correct, albeit not politically correct, with these here words.
How do you know what a Klan rally “sounds” like? Been to many?
More to the point, can you distinguish between “sound” and reality? Are you capable of recognizing the flagrant and virulent racism in the utterances of Barack Obama, Eric Holder, Chris Matthews, Ben Jealous, Toure, and a host of others?
Can you even recognize that the schoolyard politics of these fourth-grade intellects should be consistently subjected to the “rubber/glue rule?”
Watch the President’s 2007 speech at Hampton U in 2007, or visit the NAACP website or Congressional Black Caucus website or MSNBC or the HuffPo and you’ll hear much worse.
Get used to it.
Speaking of racists, why does the LEFT think of Barry as black? He’s our first half-white President.
Finally! Someone posts the truth. potus is a mulatto. his claiming to be black is just a social construct. hahaha
If people are inwardly racist, who cares.
Dont you all ever get sick of this crap???
Can’t afford to get “sick of this crap” when the attorney general of the United States starts out his tenure lecturing as to how Americans are “cowards” on race.
And uses his justice department appointments to reinforce his agenda and point of view, not to mention giving the New Black Panthers (“kill white cracker babies”) a pass on violating the Voting Rights act at a Philadelphia polling place in 2008.
Can’t afford to ignore all all this crap when a US President, early in his administration, ignorantly leaps to a racist conclusion about how the “Cambridge police acted stupidly” in the Henry Louis Gates affair.
Sorry.
just as mary grabar says
and that means it’s obama
the worst rotten filthy
bigot of them all today
Most of the comments here saddened me to no end. May be that great idea, the American idea, is really dead in the hearts of all Americans. I can’t believe we will stoop to the level of the Democratic Party and renounce to most basic principles of Americanism just because we can’t see past each others skin. Now go ahead and insult. Of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
“I can’t believe we will stoop to the level of the Democratic Party and renounce to most basic principles of Americanism just because we can’t see past each others skin.”
Here is the answer to your cri-de-cour:
http://youtu.be/6ZHMsivjr04
“Don’t boo…vote…vote voting is the best revenge.”
- US President Barack H. Obama, November 2012.
“Revenge”…against WHOM?
Us.
For WHAT?
It DOESN’T MATTER.
It isn’t rational, it isn’t logical, and it’s not meant to be.
This is the Politics of the Gut.
The Politics of Hate, the Politics of the Tribe/Class/Race. This is an exhortation to strike a blow against “Them”
And to this President and his patrons, YOU and I are “Them”.
And now they will take their “revenge”.
I am not Jesus, you’re at the foot of the wrong cross, pal, I’m just another thief, so don’t try to preach forgiveness of my enemies to me.
I expect none from them., and nor should you.
Revenge against the “enemies” Obama identified to his Hispanic Univision audience about one week before the November 2010 election.
He told his listeners they needed to get out and vote to “punish your enemies”.
Revenge against anyone who thinks immigration law should be enforced. Revenge against any individual or state (cf Arizona) that tries to enforce federal immigration law.
Revenge against anyone who is arrogant enough to assume of their own business, of their own achievement, that “they built that” without the nanny state enabling them.
Revenge against a country that this arrogant prétendeur, born 1961, has no clue about or understanding of. Nor cares to.
Revenge against we the people.
We were doing a pretty good job seeing past each others’ skin (and each others’ X and Y chromosomes) before Obama and cohorts came along and, in the interests of self-promotion and personal power, riled up the useful idiots.
The useful idiots just “won” an election for them.
It isn’t healthy to turn the other cheek when those who would “fundamentally transform” your country are on the prowl.
You’re a troll, and not a particularly clever one.
This is exactly what libs have been doing. Why not to fight them with their weapon?
Here’s the giant politically correct gorilla the Left despises, ignores, and which stings the pride of people in the Third World.
If you’re sitting in a restaurant in America next to a big window, subtract every thing you see that was innovated in its current form outside the West. The composition of the forks and tables, the cookers, the road outside, the cars, the architecture, it’s all gone. Your smartphone, the net you can access. Massive salt mining machines may be under your feet and there are jets in the sky.
Multiply this by an absurd amount: 10,000, 20,000. This is reality.
The Left lives in a land of unreality, and it’s sad racial pandering is eagerly lapped up by those who’ve been second class through out the last few hundred years.
Failure is not a victim, it’s just failure. Success does not prey on people, it’s just success. This is simple arithmetic: add millions from the Third World, you enhance failure. That is not racism or wishful thinking, it is a simple fact.
I wanted “the Occupiers” to give up their ipods, their tents, their sleeping bags, their backpacks, their clothes (well, some did that)…in short, every manufactured item they were using that was produced by nasty capitalists and corporatists.
Even give up their trips to the bathroom at McDonald’s in lower Manhattan which was allowing them a place to pee.
I want Noam Chomsky to give up his big house & his yacht, his jetsetting about the planet to give lectures bashing “capitalism”. Al Gore can stop wasting the planet’s resources, too, as can every Hollywood so called celeb constantly flying about on private jets.
Then we’ll talk about their gripes, their “demands”.
If liberals were banished together with their families to the polities whose citizens they so ardently defend, they’d start crying like babies. Liberals most cherished areas are in fact no-go zones no liberal will actually live in. The people who do live in America’s inner cities and the Third World can’t wait to leave.
And where do they go? They huddle up as close as they can to the people who liberals say are racists who have ruined their lives: European ethnic groups.
I’d love to tell a liberal they and their families had to live in Jakarta, Cairo or Mumbai, or Gary or Compton – forever.
Obama’s cherished pastor of 20+ years (tho’ Obama was eventually forced to officially “repudiate” him) retired to an elaborate million+ home in a gated community.
Obama and his idiotic partner in crime at the energy dept. (Nobel prize winning physicist Steven Chu) want our gasoline and home heating prices to “skyrocket”.
Hey, it’s working.
While this community organizer in chief has done little for the duration of his 4 years but travel around (at $180,000/hour to operate Air Force 1) telling absolute lies to the faithful.
I think he’s now on a trip to Asia, or soon will be. Reverting to type after the “win”.
Failure is not a victim, it’s just failure. Success does not prey on people, it’s just success. This is simple arithmetic: add millions from the Third World, you enhance failure. That is not racism or wishful thinking, it is a simple fact. — Fail Burton
Bingo!
A large number of blacks, hispanics and asians are conservative. One report states that blacks are the most church going group in the entire country. We’ve always had a strong sense of family, christian faith, and patriotism, in spite of concerted efforts by their fellow countrymen to oppress and disenfranchise.
The problem is the republican party is home to white supremacist groups (just go over to stormfront and pay a visit), government hating militias, KKK, racist tea party folks, etc. Also republicans across the country are notorious for making racist comments and spewing ugly language to describe blacks and latinos, and other immigrants. Now seriously folks, would any conservative black, latino or asian want to vote for these modern day republicans? I am very conservative in many areas, I agree with many GOP ideas and proposals, but I can’t vote for them because of the scary people they associate with. And I will never again even consider voting republican as long as I hear the types of things I’m hearing from them these days.
The other day fox news and their conservative pundits went ape over the minority turnout. Then proceeded to degrade them, call them takers not makers, claiming that whites are the minority now, that they vote for Obama because he gives them stuff. That type of talk will only turn people off and even higher numbers of them will vote against the GOP next time.
Wouldn’t it be more prudent to talk to them, to listen to their concerns? You’ll find that many of those concerns are just like yours. You guys could peel off 20 or 25%, that would make a big difference. But I doubt it well ever happen because the white supremacists in your party will not allow it, will not even attempt to reach out because they hate blacks, jews, latinos, muslims, etc. That is way too scary for us, so we’ll continue to support candidates who listen to us, who include us, who do not degrade or use foul language against us.
We’ll have to wait till 2016 and beyond to see how this plays out. Obama is such an overwhelming figure, we will not see another like him for some time. His persona is very powerful, he’s very likable, he’s thoughtful and caring. People respond to that, they feel he is sincere and is doing his best. He’s also a tough s.o.b. to boot. He’s taking out al qaeda like ducks in a shooting gallery, we like that. But most of all we feel like he understands us, the regular people, the middle class, working class, family people. He talks alot about a country where every one is treated fairly, where everyone has a chance at greatness through hard work and responsibility. Romney doesn’t talk like that, he thinks that 47% of americans don’t take responsibility for their lives, that they just want free stuff. Well, we sent him home real fast, thank God.
Here is my son’s observation: “When Obama is speaking I arrogance and hatred in his eyes.”
Concerned Black Citizen must have done really well in his/her high school “business skills” course, to be able to stereotype so many worthless wpm.
In a word, Concerned Black Citizen has chosen tribal loyalty over ideas and principles. And then he excoriates White Europeans who talk about making the same choice.
Pretty much sums up the situation.
When I do it, it is self defense and preservation, when you do it, it is because you are a racist hater, and lynch mad Klansman, and a crypto-Nazi.
Cant you just feel the love from Concerned Black Citizen?
But let me ask you this Concerned Black Citizen, when I look at various minority Identity group organizations on the Left, I see racist haters, militant radicals, gentrified Black Supremacist Panther lite, Reconquista colonists, misandrists, and Marxists who wish to bring the Great Satan to it’s knees. Apparently, just the sorts of people you can ally with, with no problem. It’s whitey that is the demon.
Thanks for proving the central truth. Tribalism it is, bro. You had the chance to support equality before the law and color blind policies and chose instead racial preferences and legal racial discrimination.
America is the constitution, the bill of rights, the federalist papers and a lot of English law and common law . Tribalism would have been death for the colonists and it would be death for any party seeking to restore or retake America too. If you have lost and are trying to survive then perhaps it is not a bad strategy . But racism isn’t rational , and it isn’t noble either. Perhaps we have to become our enemy in order to fight successfully, but I don’t think it is time to do so yet . Besides conservatives don’t fight, they don’t even insult . We need a Curtis LeMay, then we could do things like fund a drive in California, Philadelphia and NYC to ban vaccination. In some islamic countries they boycotted vaccination because it supposedly caused AIDS and sterilization (as well as making penises vanish). Spice that up for the truly moronic and add the childhood autism nonsense for the merely stupid and voila, a public health catastrophe for the descendants of those the sabre-tooth tigers forgot to cull . Drugs should be legalized , alcohol subsidized, and all should be available free during election week. The justice department is performing outreach to hire the mentally challenged, this should be encouraged , perhaps mandated, and we demand drooling idiocy at the highe4st levels, not token low level appointments. Act with natural food zealots to outlaw vitamin supplementation of milk and bread and we can restore the wonders of deficiency diseases to our housing projects . Why doesn’t the endangered species act apply to bacteria ? How dare a unique life form like whooping cough be eradicated from it’s natural habitat ? Sneak significant restrictions on dihydrogen monoxide into the next 2000 page law to come along and see what the EPA can do with that.
Your words, your thinking, depress the hell out of me.
I responded to you @ #40, intended to put it under your post.
I’d write in more detail but have the feeling I’d be spitting into the wind.
Maybe you haven’t noticed it,
but after Obama’s election in 2008 and now especially in the last few days after his re-election, I’m seeing some genuine triumphalist hate coming from your fellow black Americans and from others in Obama’s coalition:
“You senile old white folks…”
“Filled your Depends yet?”
The constant repetition of the refrain “senile old white folks” as if they can’t wait to pee on our graves, shows that many of your fellow blacks are salivating at the thought of vengeance for all the oppression their ancestors suffered at the hands of their white countrymen.
There’s too much bitterness. On both sides. A sad commentary for a President–Obama–who had campaigned on bringing different peoples together.
A sad commentary for a President–Obama–who had campaigned on bringing different peoples together.
And he’s kept that promise. Obama has ramped up the anger and hatred and brought all manner of different peoples together in a boiling, reeking, poisonous stew of rancor. He has brought different peoples together to the point where they want to join each other—in the embrace of battle fueled by race hatred.
The man whom, we are told, takes such joy in killing that he personally chooses the drone targets and follows them in their paths, who has done his best for four years to cover for Iran’s nuclear development program with a gossamer fraud of “sanctions,” is intent on bringing as many people different from himself together in the peaceful embrace of death.
Obama is the symptom, the hatred and demonization of White Europeans/Christians/Males has been promoted for decades inside minority identity political organizations, ethnic and women’s studies departments, the media and Hollywood, rewritten history and history textbooks…and so on and so forth. All prompted and supported by Anti-Western Civilization Marxists and Marxist groups. Obama is the embodiment of minority Identity Politics REVENGE.
Obama is a revanchist, as are his followers:
re·vanche (r-vänch, -väsh)
n.
1. The act of retaliating; revenge.
2. A usually political policy, as of a nation or an ethnic group, intended to regain lost territory or standing.
[French, from Old French revancher, to revenge : re-, re- + vengier, vencher, to avenge; see revenge.]
re·vanchism (-vänchz-m, -väshz-) n.
re·vanchist adj. & n.
re·vanch·istic adj.
White supremists? You’re either a troll or a liar.
I didn’t used to not worry about black folks not being Christians because they all went to church. Now that I know that what they teach is actually that black liberation theology garbage I seriously doubt any are Christians. Teaching race hatred and division isn’t exactly what Jesus was all about.
OK, many of the responses to your comments are snarky because people think you may be a concern troll. I want to address you seriously on the off chance that you are not.
If you look at the history of the Republican Party, you will see that it is NOT the party of the KKK or white racists. That’s the Democrats. For over a century, Republicans fought against slavery and fought to extend the full breadth and scope of civil rights to the black community. Yet, when LBJ, a virulent racist, saw that he could gain a permanent majority by appeasing and buying the black vote through Great Society programs, he cynically began to re-fashion the Democratic Party as the civil rights party, even though he and many in his party never gave up their racist views. It’s this history that makes Republicans bitter because Republicans never were the party of racism, and despite some of the blatherings on this thread which are just expressions of frustration, Republicans still are not the racist party.
If you’re interested in more on Republican history in matters of race, see flipside’s comment no. 26 above.
I know that minority groups sometimes take a realpolitik view of things. The attitude is “Well, even if you prove to me that Democrats are exploiting us for our votes, at least we get something (i.e., government programs and benefits) out of it. Republicans are going to take away all that.” The sad truth is that bennies, when used as a long-term solution to poverty, fosters dependency by eroding self-confidence, self-respect and entrepreneurial initiative. Those bennies will always keep minority communities down, and they were designed to be that way.
This was something Romney was trying to address when he said that he was going to downsize welfare — NOT by cutting programs, but by providing lots of good jobs. Because really, a booming economy with good jobs is the only real chance to uplift minorities stuck at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder.
Concerned, you’re referring to a racial narrative invented completely by leftist media and left-wing ethnic identity groups. The Republicans tried to run a clean election based on the economy and issues and got beaten senseless by false racial accusations from the NAACP, MALDEF, La Raza (a Hispanic hate group parading around Congress) Hispanic ethnic coalitions, black activists, gay and feminist militants, and the Democratic party.
You and your colleagues injected race into ever corner of this election: we did not. A Republican message of race-blindness was deemed incalculably racist by people who profit off racial politics and fomenting race hatred. Take your repulsive accusations elsewhere.
Also, grow a spine if you choose to issue such extremist claims: use your real name.
CBC said:
One report states that blacks are the most church going group in the entire country. We’ve always had a strong sense of family
Would you please explain to me why, if the black population is so church going and family oriented, that the out of wedlock birth rate for blacks is the highest in the nation at a staggering 76%? You are destroying yourselves and unfortunately, I have to pay for it fiscally and culturally.
There were more abortions by black women in NYC in 2010 than live births. I find that very upsetting. This is your race and your culture. It is not my fault but somehow, your political spokespersons want to make it that way.
Every once in a while a black politician will point out the self destructive nature of the black culture like the mayor of Phillie. In one ear and out the other. Apparently it just doesn’t fit the story line… I can’t help you with this, only the black culture can make changes to itself no matter how much I am silenced or forced to pay for your culture’s lifestyle and its repercussions.
BTW, hispanics come in second with the most outrageous out of wedlock birth rate at 60%. I am also constantly told that Hispanics are mostly conservative, family oriented and church goers. I am bombarded with white guilt that we do not “reach out” and “understand” their “concerns.” You said that if “whites” would do that we would find that their concerns are similar to ours/mine.
I am sorry to have to tell you this but no, they are not.
Wow! And you claim to be a conservative while drinking the Liberal Purple Drank. I think you’re basically a fraud.
“Wouldn’t it be more prudent to talk to them, to listen to their concerns?”
Why? Just more race baiting and false accusations of so-called ‘white privilege’.
Here is my son’s observation: “When Obama is speaking I see arrogance and hatred in his eyes.”
I now understood why you like Obama.
And I will never again even consider voting republican as long as I hear the types of things I’m hearing from them these days.
Would that be Allen West, Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, Martin Luther King’s daughter, Mia Love, some black radio commentators, the very bright conservative black women who show up on Fox News ?
…went ape over the minority turnout. Then proceeded to degrade them, call them takers not makers, claiming that whites are the minority now, that they vote for Obama because he gives them stuff.
97% of black women in America voted for Obama. 87% of black men. Why ? Because their lives have improved so much over the past 4 years ?
Obama is such an overwhelming figure, we will not see another like him for some time. His persona is very powerful, he’s very likable, he’s thoughtful and caring.
Obama is an unaccomplished moron, a guy who has never done anything personally in the way of achievement. He has you all fooled.
How has all that alleged “caring” worked out (for anyone) these past 4 years?
15 million more Americans on food stamps. Unemployment in the black community egregious, among black youth, beyond egregious. Oh yeah, slaughtering in the streets of Chicago at, heretofore, unimagined levels.
Romney doesn’t talk like that, he thinks that 47% of americans don’t take responsibility for their lives, that they just want free stuff. Well, we sent him home real fast, thank God.
The 47% number is that is the percentage of Americans that doesn’t pay federal income taxes.
A simple fact.
You have drunk, drank and continue to drink the Kool Aid.
Hopeless.
Conservatives should stop regarding the collective left as if it is just another form of political ‘opposition’—how can one take its adherents seriously when they completely ignore the record of leftist failure all over the planet? The left could care less about good government by anyone’s objective definition of the term. What gets them up in the morning is their shared urge to control people and their quaintly misplaced faith in themselves.
At this time in the nation’s history the American electorate is a fairly easy target for them. Their victims misidentify them as a hyper version of liberal when in fact these people are working tirelessly in the name of a foreign and very fascist ideology to control their lives.
Their victims misidentify them as a hyper version of liberal when in fact these people are working tirelessly in the name of a foreign and very fascist ideology to control their lives.
That is the only operative point. Completely missed by people like CBC just above.
Compulsion. Control.
“It has been well said that modern up to date liberals don’t care what people do as long as it is compulsory.”
You people have gone insane.
Do you even read the shit you’re spewing?
I’d tell you to be ashamed of yourselves, but I doubt you retain the capacity.
I doubt you have the capacity to make a decent point.
Based on your comment, what that point might be is completely unknown.
Yes the far right lacks Irony Detection Mode. A complaint from another thread here seemed to underscore this where the commenter whinged that the left ‘falsely’ attacked the R’s (good guys) as the party of hate, and America is lost because of the complete morons buying into it.
So here I am, incredulously observing: this guy hates the left and all of the idiots who vote for the left, who tricks them into presuming the R’s are the party of hate.
Apparently if the left is tricking people it’s wasting bandwidth.
Mary Grabar made a good point. The conversation is going very lively. There is nothing wrong with it.
Obama and his faithful friends are corrupt idiots.
Chicago thugs, like “closest adviser” and Chicago slumlord Valerie Jarrett.
Tony Rezko, now in prison, who helped the Obamas buy land adjacent to their Chicago house.
Rashid Khalidi. Billy Ayers.
Surrogates like David Axelrod, who lie as easily as they breathe.
That’s the America you want, that’s the America you’ve got.
Hans plays with Lotte, Lotte plays with Jane
Jane plays with Willi, Willi is happy again
Suki plays with Leo, Sacha plays with Britt
Adolf builts a bonfire, Enrico plays with it
-Whistling tunes we hid in the dunes by the seaside
-Whistling tunes we’re kissing baboons in the jungle
It’s a knockout
If looks could kill, they probably will
In games without frontiers-war without tears
Games without frontiers-war without tears
Jeux sans frontieres
Andre has a red flag, Chiang Ching’s is blue
They all have hills to fly them on except for Lin Tai Yu
Dressing up in costumes, playing silly games
Hiding out in tree-tops shouting out rude names
-Whistling tunes we hide in the dunes by the seaside
-Whistling tunes we piss on the goons in the jungle
It’s a knockout
If looks could kill they probably will
In games without frontiers-wars without tears
If looks could kill they probably will
In games without frontiers-war without tears
Games without frontiers-war without tears
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKb9XQ39-zc
That one goes out to you Congressman Lewis, race baiter extrordinaire. Still waiting for the video proof with regards to your unsubstantiated accusations and your march through the Tea Partiers during the ObamaCare finale. No doubt Concerned Black Citizen is a big fan of yours.
The ironies in this thread are rich indeed. A white nationalist is by definition not an American conservative, because ethnic nationalism is a European disease, first theorized by sullen Germans who were smarting at being whupped by Napoleon (we owe SO MUCH to sullen Germans, don’t you think?) So those of you who are going the white nationalist route, you may win some goodies for your self-defined group, but you’ll contribute to destroying America, spatting with the other hyenas over who gets what bites of the corpse. American nationalism is civic nationalism, not ethnic; it’s loyalty to a particular regime of ordered liberty, based on natural right. That’s what we’re losing, not some bogus “white power.”
Of course, we’ve seen all this before. I’m a proud Southerner, but the truth of the matter is that white Southerners were the Democratic Party’s first special-interest victim group, who were coddled and allowed to ignore the Constitution for decades because, ya know, they’ve suffered so much. White nationalists are ex-Americans who’ve decided that getting their nose in the trough is more important than liberty.
First of all, it’s 2012. The failure to fully realize that leads to the dual implications you bring up: payback and racial culling.
I am not responsible for what people did who happened to be white decades and decades ago. And paring down the percentage of whites by way of diversity and multiculturalism based on the idea whites are endemic racists is not compelling.
A race-game is being put on me, not the other way around. La Raza, the Congressional Black Caucus and NAACP are certainly not advocating for me, far from it. In fact, they tirelessly work against me.
“So those of you who are going the white nationalist route, you may win some goodies for your self-defined group, but you’ll contribute to destroying America, spatting with the other hyenas over who gets what bites of the corpse. American nationalism is civic nationalism, not ethnic; it’s loyalty to a particular regime of ordered liberty, based on natural right. That’s what we’re losing, not some bogus “white power.””
It was a White Christian nation, steeped in Western European values that gave rise to civic nationalism and ordered liberty…not vice-versa.
Remember that “Demography is destiny”…the Left will be telling you that triumphantly, the Right ruefully, and therefore both sides will have tacitly agreed that race is culture and culture trumps government.
” I’m a proud Southerner, but the truth of the matter is that white Southerners were the Democratic Party’s first special-interest victim group, who were coddled and allowed to ignore the Constitution for decades because, ya know, they’ve suffered so much. White nationalists are ex-Americans who’ve decided that getting their nose in the trough is more important than liberty.”
I think you have that last bit backwards. White nationalists just may be those who realize that to secure Liberty, we must speak with one voice for it, and that playing the Identity politics that we have been “Revenged” with is preferable to pandering to minorities who have been inculcated to see EVERYTHING in terms of racial grievance.
Once again, I paraphrase a celebrated “Man of God”:
“I don’t know what kind of Honkie doesn’t vote for him when a White man is running for President.”
Now go and upbraid the Left for selling out Liberty in favor of racial and ethnic spoils, you reverse Copperhead
Ordered Liberty was INvented by WHites.
Yes, and the sidewalks, and the phones…..
But now it has served it’s purpose as it’s bout to be TAken over and USed by parasitic white haters.
Escape Velocity has the picture CLEARLY.
Obam is a hater and his “white” mother intent on one/race one/world solutions. She did not care a hoot about her Irish traditions(which include btw legal tradition, scholar monks,rich artand music).
I agree there is a need for political defense for WHites, I think the way to start is a European American AntiDefamation Legal group. This is cerebral enough not to scare the indoctrinated whites away. We can’t win them back by getting obviously militant, but this is a step. Such a group will politely but forcefully fight the quotas, the crime, everything, and collect money to do so.
The second step is a CUltural “fun” program where music, literature, etc. is taught to children, travelling shows and promotion of cultural heritage music, etc. is done entirely apolitically.
That will be the answer to the reeducation camps in Academia.
I have thought bout this for a LONG time and I believe these two things are the way to start.
Please respond. I am serious about this, have had ENOUgh ……………………
I don’t think I was clear enough.
Ordered liberty INvented by whites. That does not mean anybody non white cares either about giving credit, or continuing it. Only Using it until it wears out.
Communism and black racism are a natural mix. Its th only way to get Rid ow White civilization while still enjoying its fruits (by the govt workers, elite, quotas groups,e tc.)
They don’t want to discuss ideas. Don’t care about economy.
If the economy crashes, strong will survive….means THEM, bc they have more violent urges and hatred and will have govt drones of whatever color backing them up.
This is afull scale revolution people.
Wake up please.
The Anti Defamation is necessary to exist as a beacon of hope. I spoke to the JEWISh Anti Defamation League about if they would help out in cases of outright anti White discrimination. They said yes but to hav sufficient Proof.
What marxist non whites want is for All whites, guilty or not, if you are not Actively involved in spitting on your own culture and helping them persecute innocent Christians, etc, then you wlil have to march, and protest for rights THE SAME WAY THEY DID. Its about REVENGE, stupid. They want this to be EVEN WORSE for whites than it was for “them” (I say “them” bc they are sitting in Starbucks but inside they are fantasizing themselves to be the opressed and downtrodden).
The Victims have become the Opressors.
Please don’t talk about economic systems, etc.
When it all crashes, the govt will be there with a new currency and as someone here said, if you helped, you will be rewarded.
This O man says LOUd and clear what his intentions are. EVerything since day One has been a subliminatl code Signal if you have been listening.
Beer Summit/setup
Revenge
Corpseman/ General not Admiral
bitter clingers
Churchill bust
you didn’t build it(slaves did)
Now he JUST SAID, artists/musicians SHOULD BE MORE POLITICAL. Socialist Realism will be promoted !! It’s SOviet/Chinese tactic !! in the OPEN now !!!!
WHY do black liberals and white brainwashed support Arabs?answere; they are non white and their goal is to end Western Civ.
Religion, all else can be handled after they take over poliltically. Favorite groups will be rewarded, Christians pushed underground forever.Lovely indigenous people will rule (but what about European indigenous…nobody remembers them since history and culture are not taught)
I’m just stating the obvious wish lists. Just watch Avatar.I’m not saying everybody should not have a chance.
As I said, 1. AntiDefamation group 2.Cultural group promoting European American various cultural activities/classical music,crafts, poetry, Lord knows there is Plently to constantly celebrate.
I am tired of seeing ONLY third world culture. It started as a good way to include some of everything but now it is EXCLUSIVE everywhere. ONLY they get the grants, etc.
Parents need to do a better job instilling their values/beliefs in their children. It is simple to run rings around the views presented in schools. Parents need to make the effort. With that fortification, it is easy for the children to get through secondary school and college without being seduced by the academic left.
Where are ya’ll at? I went to Republican primary for my precinct. There were three white guys. Their Korean wives were at home, and would have come, but they wanted the guy to speak clearly. The meeting was run by a well-dressed Hispanic guy. There was one couple: the guy was white, his wife was bilingual- Spanish and English- Mexican naturalized citizen. There was one old white lady, and one middle white lady and one white teenage girl. The teenage girl was in a tank-top with her bra-straps hanging out, and her tats showing. Her dad was sitting there saying the meeting had to be prompt b/c he needed to get back to work filling gas at a truck-stop.
WHERE? ARE THE RICH, PRIVILEGED COUNTRY CLUB REPUBLICANS? I haven’t ever in my life met any.
The richest people I’ve ever met are Democrats.
Small business, low- regulation, “we like babies”, – it’s attractive.
My husband went to the next step up meeting, with the Congress-critter from our district. The meeting was set up by a public-school teacher. ( Texas is awesome, what can I say?)
Any party that is for babies is basically for lots of young people. Any party that likes low- regulation, likes goofy small busineses- like, you know, nail enamels, posh line dryers, cable tv shows, talk radio, pimp my ride garages, trendy teen shoes, fancy diapers.
Any party that pushes freedom, and success and cute married couple and babies holds the future.
The Democratic Party is a bunch of carrion-crow old women who need expensive blow-outs and face-lifts and essays about cougars to make themselves feel, ever so fakely, young. Republicans ARE young.
Ultimately it’s not about white, black, Hispanic, oriental, whatever. It’s about the values that Western civilization sweated and bled for for over 2000 years. These values wrt politics reached their apex with the US constitution and the bill of rights. The technical advances continued until recently. These advances allowed more people to live longer and better than EVER before in the entire history of human kind. Thank a grumpy old German (Haber) for the fact we can eat today. Etc
Ladies and gentlemen, the ravaging horde are at the gates of Vienna, but where is our Nicholas?
The ravaging Hordes are inside the gates.