It’s Not Always About the Autism
Seldom does a week go by anymore without autism somehow making the news. Most recently, talk show host Michael Savage scoffed at the notion that autism is a health epidemic among the nation’s children saying, instead, “In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out.”
Not surprisingly, the autism community was outraged and immediately began petitioning WOR Radio to fire Savage. The online community responded similarly. Advertisers began pulling their ads and affiliate stations dropped Savage’s show.
But Savage chose to stand by his comments, explaining in a New York Times interview:
“My main point remains true,” Mr. Savage, whose radio audience ranks in size behind only those of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, said in the interview. “It is an overdiagnosed medical condition. In my readings, there is no definitive medical diagnosis for autism.”
While there’s no denying that Savage’s initial remarks were cruel and ignorant, this situation has made one thing perfectly clear: autism is big news. It’s the latest celebrity cause. It’s the new chipotle, the disorder du jour, and now it’s a plot line on NBC’s “Days of Our Lives.”
And when it comes to protecting autistic children from discrimination, everything else takes a backseat.
Consider, for instance, an incident last month involving a mother and her 2-year-old autistic child who were escorted off of an American Airlines flight after airline personnel declared the boy’s behavior “uncontrollable.” According to the airline, the child’s behavior simply compounded an unsafe situation stemming from the mother’s refusal to place her carry-on bag in the overhead compartment and the boy’s inability to remain in his seat.
Naturally, the mother’s story differs. In her telling it all comes down to the airline not understanding that, due to autism, the child had special needs to which the airline should have been more sensitive.
She claims, for instance, that the attendant repeatedly came by to tighten the child’s seatbelt because, in the mother’s own words, the child “was wiggling around and trying to get out of his seatbelt.” When the attendant reached over to tighten the child’s seatbelt again, the mother says she warned that the action would exacerbate her son’s autistic behavior. The child once again got out of his seat.
Later, the pilot himself came to tell the boy, “You have to stay in your seat, young man,” which the mother says prompted her to begin crying. That, too, she acknowledges, exacerbated the boy’s behavior, and again he got out of his seat. Eventually the pilot announced that the child was uncontrollable and the plane was going to return to the terminal where mother and child were escorted off.
The one aspect of the story upon which both sides agree: the child was, in the mother’s own words, “rolling around on the floor” after flight personnel had instructed passengers to fasten their seatbelts and the pilot prepared to take off.
While the pilot and the airline are being pummeled on blogs for their “cruelty” — and at the risk of sounding insensitive myself — I can’t help wonder when “special needs” became synonymous with disregarding the needs of others, or when the parent of a child with special needs was accorded special needs of their own.
Likewise, I can’t help wonder if the uproar would be more subdued if, say, the child on the American Airlines flight — or the children targeted on Michael Savage’s show — had ADD, depression, or oppositional defiant disorder. And where’s the uproar when a non-disabled child and her parents are ejected after the child refused to wear a seatbelt and wouldn’t get in her seat?
Answer: you can’t hear it above the applause of people who understand that safety rules require passengers to be in their seats wearing seatbelts before takeoff and that the airline owes a duty to all of its passengers to take off on time. Why, earlier this month HR 6355, the “Air Service Improvement Act of 2008,” was introduced to require airlines to address departure delays.
Listen to the news on any given day and you’ll realize just how little we do understand about autism. We have no idea what causes it: unstable genes, perhaps, or mental illness in the parents. Or maybe it’s high testosterone levels during fetal development or pesticide exposure or even — despite all the evidence to the contrary — caused by certain childhood vaccines.
As the phrase “autism spectrum” demonstrates, we’re not even sure how to define autism entirely. We know it’s a pervasive developmental disorder, but so are Asperger’s, Rett syndrome, childhood disintegrative disorder, and that catch-all, “pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified.” We know their symptoms overlap and vary in degree, but we don’t know if they’re all manifestations of autism or discrete syndromes in their own right.
One thing we do know about autism: it creates a different world for every child who has it, one in which they alone exist yet where neither they, nor visitors like parents and educators, speak the language. We know, in the words of one little girl who emerged from her world of silence, that for those with autism, “reality hurts.” Their condition is not merely “all in their heads”; one autistic girl who’s learned to use a laptop for communication describes it as “a million ants are crawling up my arms.”
We know, too, that autism can lead to behavior that neither the child nor the parent can control. And it’s a fact, whether we like to acknowledge it or not, that such “meltdowns” can evolve into frightening rages leading the child to harm himself or herself — as well as others.
But because of the media’s obsession with autism, it’s not politically correct to point out that other people’s safety is a concern, too.
- Earlier this month, a Roman Catholic church in Minnesota obtained a restraining order prohibiting an autistic boy from attending mass. The boy, age 13, is 6 feet tall and weighs over 225 pounds. While attending mass he has urinated and spit in the church, bolted from services, and knocked down other parishioners in the process. The mother is fighting the restraining order.
- Last year, a 9-year-old boy was injured after being hit in the head by an autistic classmate who’d previously bitten his teacher and injured other students as well. The 9-year-old was also autistic, and the class was for children with special needs. The school had previously felt unable to address the situation due to laws prohibiting administrators from punishing children for behavior stemming from a disability.
- In 2006, an autistic boy in Issaquah, Washington, put his teacher in a headlock, hit her in the head and stomach, and threw her against a cabinet. He kicked two teaching assistants who tried to intervene. The teacher was left with neck and back injuries, and when the assistants said they were afraid to continue working with the boy the school district threatened to discipline them or terminate their employment.
- In San Jacinto today there sits a mother whose autistic child’s rages terrify her. Her son has jumped on her as she was driving, thrown his body into mirrored closet doors, busted through windows, hurled furniture, and attacked his younger siblings. When she’s called the police out of fear for her own safety, they’ve taken her son to a mental health facility. Mere hours later, she’s been told to pick him up. After explaining her fear of driving with him due to his rages, one of which led her to crash into a car, hospital personnel told her that if she’s not there within the hour they’ll report her to child services.
So when it comes to a toddler who refused to remain in his seat wearing a seatbelt and who was, as his mother described it, “rolling around on the floor,” if that child didn’t have autism he’d have been labeled a brat whose parent needed to tell him to, as Savage put it, “Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don’t sit there crying and screaming, you idiot.”
But this was a case involving an autistic child, and somehow that meant nothing else was important: not the safety of the child and his mother, the flight crew, or the other passengers. Nothing.
Because when autism is involved it’s all about the autism, our new sacred cow.
Oh, let Michael Savage call the Catholic Church “greedy pigs.” Let him say that illegal immigrants “come here to work the system, sell drugs, rape, and kill on contract.” Let him call the Koran a book of hate. Let him complain about feminists and their “she-ocracy.” Let him say that homosexuals “mean nothing to me. … They’re all sausages” he hopes will “get AIDS and die.”
He’s a “shock jock” who insults people for a living. That’s what he does.
And that’s something the autism community, with all of its focus on autism awareness, fighting discrimination, and promoting inclusiveness for autistic kids, just isn’t getting with respect to Michael Savage’s comments: inclusion is a two-way street.
Unfortunately, just like the case where the safety of other American Airline passengers and the flight crew got overlooked because the situation involved an autistic child, that disorder is once again stealing the focus when it comes to Michael Savage’s comments: this isn’t about whether Savage’s comments were right but, rather, that it’s his right to have made them.






My autistic son is 37. When he was a child we fought just to get him in school. Savage is a professional blowhard; his comments mean nothing. All parents have the obligation to teach their childern to live in this world. To the parents of autistic childern this means knowing what situations are going to be a problem. Unfair or not you can’t subject your child to situations he/she cannot handle.
Savage is right on – babies super-vaccinated with hazardous chemicals, kids diets of sugar, fats and artificial everything and raised by someone other than their parents, left to pretty much act out whatever behavior they want with no discipline…. by the time most children are ‘diagnosed’ with autism and drugged up, the patterns are set. I see a lot of research online that goes both ways – one side no one knows what causes it, the other has a good correlation to the issues stated above.Frank is right too – the lady knew what was going to happen and should have used more common sense in placing her child in that situation.
i know many people who work with autistic children and many autistic children
autistic kids suffer a greate deal – they cant even TALK to their parents
their world is very painful: it is a severe sickness
those wonderful people who can help these little ones are doing an exceptionally needed and important work
i had a chance to see BEFORE and AFTER cases of years of behavior therapy
God Bless them
by the way Savage’s obsession with `islamists` plays well in a hand of kremlin-beijin axes creating a smoke screen in front of the real problem
so Savage realy IS NOT smart enough
Tom alluded to a broader perspective on this issue in #2: There’s been an explosion of these so-called disorders. So why, exactly?
The answer lies in the fact that the psych industry and it’s enormous lobby would seek to control behavior to a significant degree for their own profit and ideology, and that they stand to profit most when they can engage government to do this for them, greatly increasing the centralization and federalization thereby.
This cabal has, for example, attempted to declare road rage a psychiatric disorder, and it’s consistently worked to make mandatory psych testing an element of public education. Add to that the fact that their recent attempts including making the psych testing of the pregnant also mandatory.
People don’t realize that “disorders” are simply declared into existence so as to drug against them, and yet there is zero correlation between these drugs and medical testability. The point is control, power, and profit, the antithesis to conservative values.
Conservatives need to understand that weak-willed legislators (is there any other kind) who value their own reelection will eventually pass anything and everything they are moved to by these huge lobbies in order to make your “mental health” government’s responsibility.
Savage engaged in a bit of hyperbole: 99% may be stretching it. But his main point is exactly right. I suggest interested persons research the backstory behind the psychiatric industry, the drug companies, and their vast special interest groups and lobby pressure.
Autism is a mental illness. Nothing more, nothing less. People with autism are definitely not faking it 95%+ of the time. However, having a name for your disorder does not give you the right to harm others. If you can’t be held responsible for your actions, then someone needs to be responsible.
Michael Savage, well, I’ll just say his last name is appropriate.
This is the single worst piece of writing I have seen on PJM.
It is Savages right to tell a say “99%” of autistic children are just brats. It is everyone elses right to despise him for it.
I suppose it is your right, Katherine, to defend him. Just as it is your right to paint your face blue and stand in the Town Square and sing the entire Bon Jovi back-catalogue, but why do those things Katherine? WHY?
Savage’s statement about “99% of autistic children” and the fact that we can’t have him locked up, whipped, executed or fined for making it is an unfortunate side effect of our commitment to free speech not something that we should point to as a wonderful example. The MOST positive thing we could say about it is something like “America is so commited to free speech that even a horses arse like M Savage is allowed on the radio”, but to defend the actual content of such idiocy is just, well, idiotic.
I look forward to your defence of “99% of children in wheelchairs are just lazy”, “99% of children with cancer just want free trip to Disneyworld” and “99% of female victims deserved it.”
So anyway, I didn’t like that article very much.
I’ve made international flights with mine. It is by far the most difficult ‘transition’ we experience annually.
As with many things about autism, practice helps a great deal, as does preparing the child, way in advance of the change.
I can relate to each of the mother’s concerns as you have reported and getting het up oneself, doesn’t help but is completely understandable.
I also know that it is difficult to explain the relevant information to those ‘in charge’ in a meaningful manner.
As for Mr. Savage, I think it was just a rant to get his ratings up.
Cheers
I have a son with an autism spectrum disorder. (Meaning: it is on the same continuum as other autistic-like behaviors). I have, as a college teacher, taught students with autism and Asperger’s (another autism spectrum disorder). I fully agree with the article. This is not just about “rights,” it is about children learning to behave in a way that respects the rights and safety and all. The examples of autistic children causing harm to others are horrifying.
On Michael Savage: he is right that there is no single diagnosis for “autism”. It is not like, say, lung cancer, where a doctor can point out an x-ray and say, “see, there it is.” It is a mixture of activities and behaviors, which doctors have said, “let’s collect the behaviors that we think are connected, and we’ll give that collection of behaviors a name.” Now those behaviors may or may not be connected physically or neurologically; we simply do not have enough evidence. These syndromes are hypothetical constructions that scientists use to analyze and treat the behaviors.
Savage’s comments were over the top, to be sure. But on one thing he is absolutely correct: if you want to learn the cause of today’s “explosion” of autism (or ADD, or depression, or countless other “disorders”), all you need to do is follow the money. The trail leads directly to the drug companies.
from several similar cases with RADIO people on the right
it is possible that SAVAGE was somehow tricked into this:
well, given a wrong idea or may be drugged
or may be he is used by the enemey forces like that from time to time
SAVAGE is one of the most loud voices on the right- he MUST be targeted by the enemy. No doubt
so it is all can be like the case with congressman Weldon:
on the surface it was corruption of his aid but real thing was Weldons hearings on the subject of russian threat-
A VERY SENSITIVE HEARINGS and his very sober views on the matter
With Savage- he is russian by origin and very popular
what if he will start saying all the truth about real threats?
So they go and discredit him with autism story fed to him or ..i dont know
but talking this way on autism just kills his reputation
he can not be so suicidal there is something not clear
I believe autism is a real and serious problem.
I also think that the American Airlines crew acted correctly in removing the child and his mother from the flight. It would have be irresposible for the pilot to take off when a passenger was not securely belted in. Since the child could not be controlled at that time he could not remain on the flight.
When autism makes a child (or an adult) violent, I am in favor of protecting those he puts at risk even if that means not allowing him to participate in some activities. People should be undertanding and tolerant…but they also deserve to be safe.
One way to distill the information is to take it to extremes. For example:
My autistic brother-in-law just turned 15. Will the state allow him a learner’s permit, so he can drive? Absolutely not. He cannot yet understand basic laws of physics and their bearing on human anatomy.
In short, he would be a danger to himself and those around him.
I haven’t listened to Michael Wiener since 2001, and don’t care to, but he is spot-on w.r.t. the money behind autism’s over-diagnosis.
Autists *can* learn, albeit differently and with much more effort, to function in adult society; their condition can be worked around, just as blindness or paraplegia. Parents understand this, but the dunder-headed policy wonks think they can legislate (or dictate) an “acceptable level” of no self-control.
I do agree with Frank, the father of a 37 year old with Autism. My son is going to be 15 next month and has Autism as well as a slew of other disabilities. It is our duty as parents to expose our children to as much as we can and society does need to make exceptions to accept those that are considered “different”……….however, it is up to a parent to know what your child can and can not handle, what is going to set him into a meltdown and do their best to avoid it, not just for society’s sake but for the sake of the child. Setting your child up to fail teaches THEM and SOCIETY NOTHING! In the case of the airline passengers thrown off the flight, I would have contacted the airline in advance, let them know that your child is autistic and may have difficulty sitting in a seat with a seatbelt for such a long flight, then ask them how to accommodate your family. Perhaps it is allowing your son to board 15 minutes before the rest of the passengers so he can run around and check out his surroundings. Or maybe ask what is a good time to book your flight to avoid the most crowded plane. Etc.
I will start by saying I’ve never listened to Mr. Savage, and I probably never will. I used to listen to Rush, but got tired of him. Autism is real, and can really be a problem for children. It’s not always a violent one, either: I used to know a couple who had an autistic daughter. She was a cute little girl, very trusting and friendly, but she never looked you in the eye much, and she was always talking to herself. Point is, I think Mr. Savage’s amateur diagnosis is just that: amateurish.
One thing disturbs me, though. Our society has adopted many measures for security, safety, and so forth, but seems obsessed at the same time with “fairness”. Various celebrities have told stories of being stopped by airport screeners who knew who they were. Michael Caine recently told a story on the Tonight Show about being stopped in an airport in Texas. The guy who stopped him knew who he was, told him he’d liked one of his movies, but they had to keep Mr. Caine for half an hour because he was flying without a return ticket or any luggage, and this is a terrorist profile that the screeners are allowed to use. George Clooney supposedly got culled from a line and frisked in the days after 9/11. What this does is reassure everyone that celebrities are being treated “like everyone else”, and this is somehow important to the rest of us.
The problem is that searches when you’re getting on an airplane aren’t to inconvenience people. They’re to catch terrorists. If we spend all of our time trying to spread the inconvenience out as evenly as possible, we miss the point: terrorists don’t look like everyone. When the TSA guys pull a blonde Swedish supermodel out of the line to search her, does anyone actually think they suspect her of being a terrorist? Similarly, the rule about putting your seatbelt on before takeoff isn’t a referendum about autism or making your child behave or anything. It’s for safety’s sake. If the child isn’t properly secured when the plane takes off, and something happens such that he flies around the cabin, you can be sure that his mother will sue the airline. Anyone hit by him in his flight will also sue, probably both the airline and the mother once they learn the circumstances of the incident. It’s just common sense. And, of course, in this instance she’ll probably sue because the airline wouldn’t let him fly while he was climbing out of the seatbelt. Given the circumstances, it’s hard to imagine a circumstance where she *wouldn’t* have sued.
One: lots of these “autistic” kids are what would have been diagnosed as “retarded” before 1980.
Two: The behavioral aspects need to be treated for what they are: behavior.
There are treatment plans to do this, but it is difficult, so parents put up with behavior because they feel sorry for the kids. Have you seen the movie “The Miracle Worker”? Similar problem. A high functioning autistic is easier to train than a child with retardation and autistic behavior, but it can be done, with patience.
Three: Yes, there are neurological causes of temper tantrums and acting out, and these can be treated with medicines: Not tranquillizers, but often anti convulsants, lithium, or even propranolol. Alas, few docs have the experience to use them.
Four: Michael Savage is an idiot.
“30% of the children labeled with autism are misdiagnosed. Of that 30%: In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out.”
I never thought I would witness so many consistently ignorant “conservatives” and “free thinkers”.
Every one of you sheep who have bought into the “quote” that was grossly taken out of context should be ashamed.
All you who scorned Savage bought hook, line and sinker into the MSM.
Imbeciles.
This is what he said on July 16th.
“…You know what autism is? I’ll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out. That’s what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they’re silent? They don’t have a father around to tell them, “Don’t act like a moron. You’ll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man….”
He made statements on the following days that sounded more like the one written by Chaos, after the trouble started. They were used by the radio company to claim that he had been taken out of context on the 16th! But you would have to be pretty stupid to be taken in by that.
Well, it is typical of the welfare queens who use “autism” to demand money, then demand more special privilidges. If you cannot control your autistic child, don’t bring him on a plane. I am sure if that kid was interrupting her soap opera, he would have gotten the backside of her hand. Quit whining and start disiplining your children, not stealing Social Security disability payments. Because it is the disability payments that this is really about. Follow the money. Any big lawsuits coming?
very strange story with Savage
but i just remembered a story with Art Bell:
sometime in 1998 or 1999 Art Bell unexpectedly left radio for about a month
Art, who always loved radio and was like number 2 after Rush Limbaugh and bigger then Howard Stern(yes, HS was VERY big in the 90s and very interesting, not just ENTERTAINING)!!
Just before he left he had Jeff Nyquist on for an hour or so.
Later THINGS started to happen to ART.
Here i found some links documenting my memory:
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Art Bell was not on the air last night. They say he is on vacation again but he just came off vacation a week or so ago. He said nothing about leaving when he was last on Tuesday night. He did say an awful lot though in the way of protesting the NATO action in Kosovo. The New World Order does not appreciate those who do not submit to their powers, especially when you broadcast your protests to 10 million people. Their intention in Kosovo is to convince the world that the World Army needs to be made stronger in order to quell such disturbances. It is my belief that they sent the black helicopters to get Art and take him to a concentration camp. They are probably brainwashing him or giving him a lobotomy as this very moment. He will have much different opinions when he is allowed to come back on the air. April 15, 1999
Nyquist was on the night before. Russia’s preps for war and imminent atttack on the U.S. uncovered. Skousen contends that Bell’s disappearance last fall had to do with his appearance on Bell’s show. For what its worth. Nyquist is absolutely worth the listen in Bell’s archives. April 16, 1999.
http://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000ixg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Bell
“And that’s something the autism community, with all of its focus on autism awareness, fighting discrimination, and promoting inclusiveness for autistic kids, just isn’t getting with respect to Michael Savage’s comments: inclusion is a two-way street.”
What an ignorant little witch you are, Katherine. You must be jealous (in a sick, pathetic, twisted way) of all the attention autism is getting. You must be afraid deep down that you and your children must be missing out on something.
Your comment doesn’t even make sense. Michael Savage’s comments were FACTUALLY INCORRECT and his opinions are distortions of medical realities. Therefore, legally, his words were SLANDER, and that’s not free speech, you B****.
m:
katherin is what u said, of course, you got it.
Savage- his case is strange
if he is THAT stupid- well he will lose his audience
but there is something suspicions about all this.
I have a 10 year old son with autism. He isn’t faking it. We don’t fly on planes for the very reasons stated above. Virtually every activity we engage in has to be modified to accommodate his autism. That is just a fact of life.
Michael Wiener is.
I am not a medical professional but have a cousin with 2 children both diagnosed as autistic and a close friend who has a child also diagnosed as autistic.
Only one of the children is autistic. One had a severe hearing problem which once found and corrected left him with speech defects (since greatly lessened) but no behavioural or intelligence ones. The other child is now a very intelligent, bright and normal 7 year old. My understanding that you cannot properly diagnose autism with any mathematical degree of certainty until the child is 7. All this early diagnosis can be very harmful, but comes from well meaning people responding to suggestions that the symptoms can lessen if “treated early” philosophy. So yes the child could have been a brat or could have been autistic. The behavior is exactly the same. 30% error rate is not good basis for treating substantial numbers of non autistic children as autistic. As of matter of common sense it is very bad.
As the father of an autistic son (16 yrs, 5’10″,150lbs and severely autistic), I find this to be a very disappointing article. Having been in similar situations as the mother on the airplane, I know what is like to have someone exacerbate a situation that could have been otherwise diffused. It may have been that if the airline personnel allowed the mother to handle the situation her way, the problem would not have escalated to the point that it did. Yes, other people’s safety is important. But this article, with it’s cherry picked stories, contributes little to the discussion.
“from several similar cases with RADIO people on the right
it is possible that SAVAGE was somehow tricked into this:
well, given a wrong idea or may be drugged
or may be he is used by the enemey forces like that from time to time”
I found this so funny.
Boris:
i find your name funny
when you have a level of influence that is much higher then anonymous commenting- you actually can make a difference and became a factor of politics hence a factor of big money flow
i wish you never to crosss paths of the people who killed Politkovskaya or Gongadze or Khlebnikovfor that matter
If you are ignorant and not informed – it is not an excuse to have fun out of other peole misery or God forbid death
Whatever happened to compassion, tolerance, live and let live or mind your own business?
The mom of a 2 year old with autism likely doesn’t know all the situations when her 2 year old can’t handle it. I have 2 kids with disabilities, one with autism and the other with cerebral palsy. It took us years to become aware of all the places we were going to face rejection or success.
Savage, Ms. Berry, and a few folks who replied here who are obviously not faced with raising a child with disabilities, all contribute to a climate of intolerance and even fear that sadly is damaging our social fabric in the US.
I know about autism from very long and close association with people who have autistic children and those who provide ABA therapy to them, also i know people who helped to create and finance Alpine Learning Group
Autism shows itself in a child usually between 2 and 3 years of age
there are definite signs and only lack of professionalism of educators or medics can misdiagnose it
well, may be somewhere in the bushes it happens for other reasons)))
If a child has it- his problems will continue to increase unless treatment is begun
treatment started earlier yeilds much better and much faster results and hence cost less
Parents are often in denial because for a parent the fact that his child is autistic somehow means that he/she is a BAD PARENT WITH BAD GENES
Which is a total bull.
yes, this could be genetically determined but also other conditions play the role
My advice to every young parent is: if your child demonstrates signs that you are not sure: do your best in consulting speech therapist, behaviour therapist, anyone you can get a hold of:
any additional effort you put in your child will bring much better results in his education process
THERE IS NO WASTE OF TIME OR MONEY- you will get all of it back like 10 times more: your child will be one of the brightest among others
If you catch this autism earlier- it may go away no trace left
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and for the AUTISM deniers :
i would force them to take their NORMAL child to stay in an autistic school with a bunch of autistic children AND NO SPECIALIST AROUND for a whole day and may be a night too if it is a boarding school:
NO OUTSIDE HELP, and if something GOES WRONG i would make this DENIER LIABLE AND TAKE AWAY HIS/HER PARENTAL RIGHTS because of the obvious neglect
My daughter is a speech and hearing professional at a regional health center. Being such, she works with numerous autistic children of differing ages and capabilities. One is an extremely violent, non-verbal, non-white, 270-pound teen-age boy. He has thrown heavy objects and smashed furniture during one-on-one sessions with my 105 lb daughter. Fearing for her safety, she requested a second-party be present during her her sessions with this man-child. Clinic managers initially refused, in the (apparent) interest of political correctness, to comply with her request. My daughter has since resigned her position (for multiple reasons) and accepted a job working with pre-schoolers. The clinic’s negligence in protecting my daughter from a potentially dangerous situation is (in my opinion) borderline criminal. Apparently the administrators of the medical center are more concerned with the potential for media outcry or legal recourse from the boy’s family than the safety of clinical professionals in their employ. Very sad, indeed, when our society has deteriorated to this point.
“when you have a level of influence that is much higher then anonymous commenting- you actually can make a difference and became a factor of politics hence a factor of big money flow”
The reason I found your comment so funny is because I am behind the Michael Savage controversy. I slipped him the drug–a little known drug of German manufacture (extracted from Anethum graveolens), but it sounds like you already know these things and perhaps I’ve spoken too much, but you;ll never find it out anyway, as Savage is very particular about where and when he urinates (and what he drinks, so slipping the drug was difficult, but I have a few tricks left) Anyway I know some will doubt my story, but we also have operatives within Bill O’Reilly’s radio program (but our operative was found out on the TV show just before an operaiton, which cost us many hours and not to say money, oh yes and the operative’s life. But then the full plan was not discovered, so maybe in the future). But anway, listen to M.r O’reilly within the next month he will say something as equal to what Savage said, but not about autism.
Fine, don’t believe me, but when O’Reilly says something stupid and hateful you will know the depth and breadth of our reach and YOU WILL BE WORRIED.
“One is an extremely violent, non-verbal, non-white, 270-pound teen-age boy.”
Why the hell would you mention that he’s non-white? Oh, yeah, because those non whites are much more violent and dangerous. I forgot. Sorry.
Sorry folks, you don’t “control” autism with drugs.
And so the misinformation, and thus interwoven stigma and discrimination, continues forth.
boris:
this is more convincing then your fantasms:-)
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Savage’s primary purpose, just like any other major talk show host/commentator is to sell his product to the target audience. “The product” is not only his political views, but also the way the are packaged and delivered. “Savage” is a brand and a brand that sells well, otherwise “Savage Nation” would not be carried by the major broadcasters.
A fair amount of his intended target audience also happens to more or less agree with his autism comments (just read threads like these) Whether his comments are “right” or “wrong” makes no difference, what matters is they have appeal to a large constituency of his listeners.
His “diatribe” style is what sells and it is very calculated, it is designed to provoke and stir the pot (the same views could be delivered without all that, but then it would be boring.) He just slightly miscalculated in this case and stepped on a few more toes than usual.
Or maybe he didn’t. Maybe it was “black PR” approach. The network won’t fire him because the potential profit from the “Savage” brand still outweighs potential liability.
This is all there is to it.
When these little autism angels really hurts someone, we excuse them, join Jennie McCarthy singing “Kumbi y’all” (sp). Keep your little monsters out of my space, until you learn to control them, or I will speak up, and have you removed. Planes, trains and automobiles don’t share your concern for your darling with a “disability” which is usually just the absence of a firm hand applied liberally and often to a misbehaving backside.
@Kabud, having read more comments of yours than my gastrointerologist says is good for me, I finally realized just why you come across as such an ignorant twit so often.
It’s because — despite being a “Live Journal” (read: cheap ass) blogger, you don’t have a freaking clue how to read. Witness, for instance, the way you hastened to thrash me over this article as if I’d somehow agreed with Savage.
Had you realized that the “Next” button means, in fact, that you should remove your finger from your nose to click that link (but, alas, it’s apparently impacted along with the rest of your facial anatomy), you’d have seen that I do not in any way agree with Savage a/k/a Weiner.
Ergo, since reading and navigating around the interwebs beyond your own self-absorbed little Live Journal “blog” (or whatever it is you think you’ve got going on there), I decided to provide you with visual clues.
I am the mother of two kids with Asperger’s Syndrome, on the autism spectrum. I was so relieved when we got their diagnosis. All their lives I just thought I wasn’t a good enough mom– I quit my job even, to stay home and work with them full-time. We tried every parenting technique in every book. If you think my kids were just brats because I didn’t discipline them, you have no idea. The older of my sons was disciplined to the verge of child abuse and it had no effect whatsoever except to make him feel like crap because there was nothing he could do to stop the “bad behavior”.
Michael Savage has every right to say whatever the hell he wants and be as ignorant as he cares to be, but I would like to invite him (and any of you who agree with him) to engage in sexual congress with himself. Dolts like him make life harder for me and my family, because we end up being stuck in our house unable to go out for fear we’ll “contaminate” the “normal” people’s existence with our autism cooties.
Yeah Kate, I think you’re right. Most of these folks commenting never read the second page.
I’ve never heard Savage and probably never will. I’ve had friends with kids with autism. From severe to one where I kind of went, “Really?” because the kid seemed normal until someone told him, “No.” I guess that could have been some sort of ailment but…it just reminded me of how I acted at that age rigt before my Mom would reach for her hairbrush.
Yes, we have to give some consideration for special needs folks and yes, their parents and caregivers have to understand that sometimes those needs conflict with the needs and safety of others and the special needs can’t always be met.
In politics its seemingly not required to study an issue before making flaming pronouncements.
I have a daughter with autism. It has been a very hard, expensive road with her. From the initial days when she was diagnosed at the university of washington and the prognosis was that she would never speak. Till now with a young human being that can to some extent speak and write but can’t even (yet) dream of marriage or working.
Michael Savage and a lot of so called conservatives are fools. To condemn someone out of hand as an idiot probably rots your own soul far far more than the object of your mean spirited rantings.
Its one of those issues that make me re examine my own reflexive ‘conservatism’.
My granddaughter has been diagnosed with autism; she is high functioning and is responding to treatments. Her mother uses it as an excuse for behavior and to get government money. I also have a normal son, who was “diagnosed” at age 5 with ADD, etc, and it was outright BS.
Autism is indeed become a “sacred cow” diagnosis. Note that Savage didn’t say autism was a fraud; he merely points out that there will be folks who take advantage of such sacred cows for a variety of reasons. But, the universal response was to burn him at the stake for daring to contradict their opinions, which are no better than anyone elses. Having an autistic child doesn’t make anyone an expert. That takes years of medical school and study in the field. Absolute Moral Authority isn’t an adequate substitute for science, nor should it confer Priviledged Opinion Status to the families of the afflicted.
Folks who’s loved ones have autism should always beware of this and always look out for over/misdiagnosis. The misdiagnosed use resources that should go to the genuinely affected. Medical conditions which are sketchy in diagnosis should ALWAYS be questioned; lots of groups try to use medical scares to raise money, regardless of need.
“How dare you!” isn’t an adequate response to skepticism of anything science related.
What if Savage is right and good people are being gamed out of money and resources by medical hucksters at the expense of the truly ill?
to the author:
your writings are so poor, don’t even dream that i was reading your piece:
i was replying to peoples comments.
So if u feel like it u can narcissistically re-read your own article
and do as many NEXT and BACK as u like
just don’t bother about WHAT I READ
peace sister))
I have an autistic son. I receive no welfare money for his support, nor have I ever been offered any.
Autism “treatments”, such as they are, are limited to behavior training, and the controversial diet treatment. Neither one of these involve drugs. So there is no money trail leading back to “Big Pharma”, sorry to disappoint all your true believers.
I am beginning to wonder, however, at all this sudden outpouring of hatred for autistic kids, and their parents, now that the whole issue is finally beginning to surface into the mainstream (the epidemic is becoming too big to ignore?) I’ve never been a conspiracy theorist, and I never believed that autism was caused by vaccines—but now I’m beginning to wonder about what seems to be an ongoing hate-campaign: “THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AUTISM! THE BRATS JUST NEED A GOOD BEATING, THAT’S ALL! THEIR PARENTS ARE JUST A BUNCH OF WELFARE QUEENS, THEY’RE TAKING MONEY FROM THE REST OF US AND THEY’RE ENDANGERING US BY NOT GETTING THEIR KIDS VACCINATED! THEY’RE A MENACE TO SOCIETY!”
In darker moments, I sometimes wonder if somebody, somewhere, isn’t trying to cover their A****s. “DON’T ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT VACCINES, OR POSSIBLE TOXINS! AUTISTIC KIDS ARE FAKERS, AND THEIR PARENTS ARE WELFARE CHEATS!” Blah, blah, blah.
In less darker moments, I think that autism, and any other kind of mental/neurological disorder, is scary, and most people just find it hard to think about, and even harder to face. Blaming the parents though, isn’t going to help. Blaming the afflicted kids helps even less.
Oh yes, and this is the worst article to ever appear on PJM, Michael Savage is a vile blow-hard, and the author of this article is another.
BE AFRAID! BE VERY AFRAID OF THE VIOLENT,AUTISTIC CHILDREN! TODAY THEY’RE TAKING OVER OUR AIRLINES, TOMORROW THE WORLD! RUN FOR HILLS! NEXT, THEY’LL TAKE AWAY OUR VACCINES! THEN THEY’LL TAKE OUR TAX DOLLARS! NEXT, THEY’LL BE LURKING UNDER OUR BEDS, AND FRIGHTENING THE HORSES!
/I don’t need a tag.
(PJM is well on the way to becoming sillier, and less readable than US NEWS. Congrats on a job badly done, guys.)
to all:
since i have first hand knowledge of the problem and methods successfully used to HELP victims of
AUTISM:
please feel free to email or contact and i will share info with anyone
There are several approaches including ABA, DIETS, also allergy treatment
I can share also some my contacts in the industry if there is a need.
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Yes, how dare anyone question the relatives of autism victims Absolute Moral Authority in this matter? We’re all out to get them because we ask hard questions! Talk about paranoia.
No one is “out to get” anyone. It’s that too many of us have seen and smelled this “crisis” rat before and people legitimate questions and concerns. ALL science claims should be ALWAYS questioned.
Actaully, most of the scorn I see here is directed at parents who have nailed themselves to their autistic kids cross as martyrs for their children. “Look at me, I’m so giving.” Like there are no other parents of non-autistic disabled kids or those who deal with mentally disabled adults. Give me a break. Life is hard. Demanding that no one question the science of autism is arrogant and anti-science.
Actually, Ted, most of the scorn I see here is directed at parents of autistic kids, and the kids themselves, not those who are over-indulging in martyrdom.
As for Savage, he said that autism is 99% of autism cases are fake, which is practically all autism cases, which seems to indicate autism itself is pretty much a fake. (Those )()(*&&&^ kids are doing it all for big welfare bucks!)
He also goes on to propose a ludicrous “cure”; scream at the kid, and order him to be a man! (What if said kid is a girl?), something that won’t work with an autistic kid (and probably wouldn’t work with most non-autistic ones either.)
Quit trying to cover up for Savage. He said what he said, and he meant it. If he’s really worried about misdiagnosis in autism cases, he could have said that, in plain and simple language, without insulting anybody, or recommending screaming at a kid as a good way of dealing with autism (or anything else.) If he’s backtracking now, it’s because he’s scared of losing the big advertising bucks. His field of expertise—aside from being a radio shock-jock—is in some strange Berkeley nutritional health field, not neurological disabilties, or autism.
SGT Ted:
autism awareness is a good thing:
it is serving well for any problem in child development:
if a parent is concerned and starts paying MORE attention to his child upbringing-
IT ALWAYS YIELDS EXCELLENT RESULTS for a kid
in a way Savage idiotic remark served good purpose after all by attracting attention to the lack of responsibility lots of parents have:
no school or society will do a parent’s job. Thats a fact.
Here’s a good science based article on the claims of skyrocketing autism.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/116/1/e120
Here’s a taste: The USDE data suggest that the prevalence of autism is rising, but is this attributable to an actual increase in prevalence or to a broader definition of autism and greater public awareness? A number of studies have suggested that the diagnosis of autism, even by medical practitioners, has experienced significant drift over time.1,4,5 A review by Wing and Potter13 provides an excellent overview of this problem. A recent study of autism incidence between 1976 and 1997 concluded that the timing of the increase in autism diagnoses suggests that it was attributable to increased awareness and changes in diagnostic criteria.14
Despite the specific diagnostic criteria provided by the DSM-IV, the diagnosis of autism is completely subjective. There are no objective findings, radiologic studies, or laboratory tests that are diagnostic for autism. Even the presence of disorders such as fragile X15,16 or tuberous sclerosis,17,18 which are often associated with autism, are not diagnostic of autism, because only a fraction of patients with these conditions have autism.
Finally, at least 2 studies have suggested that autistic traits are not a discrete feature seen only in the presence of autism but rather are a continuum. As such, a certain degree of “autistic” behaviors can be expected in many “typical” individuals.19,20 This further complicates the diagnosis of autism, because there is no distinct “cutoff” point between typical and autistic. There are indications that the increasing awareness of autism in the medical and educational communities may have led to a gradual shift in diagnosis to include less disabled individuals who would not previously have been described as autistic13 or would have received a different diagnosis.5
the diagnosis of autism is completely subjective. There are no objective findings, radiologic studies, or laboratory tests that are diagnostic for autism.
by the way schizophrenia is also a subjective disease: would you trust a mad person when he tells you that he is a Caesar and is hearing voices:)
You should go to the nearest special ed facility where they have autistic kids and USE YOUR EYES in YOUR HEAD.
You will make lots of subjective observations and will share with us
I already have autistic relatives; I don’t doubt it exists. But, I see you ignore what I posted, trying to make it as if questioning certain “sacred cow” aspects of what advocates claim is denial of autism itself. Have fun argueing with that strawman. I’m done.
SGT Ted:
i read your post. There are wrong diagnosis all over the medical field, of course.
Practical measures and treatments used by specialists in autism are directed at specific manifestations of problems that the child has.
There are thousands of scientific researches articles published, of course.
But from the practical point,
if you need to help your child-
you go to the specialist who CAN DO IT
u don’t really think if it is autism, asperger, speech delay or anything else
Behavioral therapy and other methods will benefit your child, if you have one of course, even if there is no autism or even if autism was never discovered.
As a parent you need your child to develop and to develop brilliantly, get it?
A few observations:
1. Arguing over imperfect interpretations of hastily chosen words can be counterproductive.
2. Indeed, as the body of knowledge regarding autism and its bedfellows has grown, so too has grown the diagnosis rate. In the past, kids with autism were diagnosed with things like “unspecified dementia”.
3. When one member of a family has a disability (regardless of its form), then the whole family must make lifestyle choices that take the disability into account.
4. Someone will always misunderstand you and your disabled child. Accept it and move forward.
5. We as parents of kids with disabilities sometimes make poor choices as we adjust to our kids’ behaviors. Accept it and move forward.
6. What works for one kid with autism often doesn’t work for the next one.
7. If you take offense at another writer’s opinions about your posts, then perhaps blogging isn’t for you.
I blame Bush and Global Warming… and rascism.