Comments on: Islam and the Evolution of Europe’s Far Right http://pjmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/ Thu, 16 Feb 2012 03:26:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Open Season on EUSSR Christians « Take Your Cross http://pjmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-123636 Open Season on EUSSR Christians « Take Your Cross Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:44:30 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-123636 [...] scheme, known as The Project). Those who care about countering this should support Far Right parties such as the Flemish Vlaams Belang, the superb Sweden Democrats, and the splendid Swiss [...] [...] scheme, known as The Project). Those who care about countering this should support Far Right parties such as the Flemish Vlaams Belang, the superb Sweden Democrats, and the splendid Swiss [...]

]]> By: Desert Sienna http://pjmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-35369 Desert Sienna Sun, 04 May 2008 02:15:12 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-35369 Islamic immigration and multiculturalism should never have been forced on Europe's native population. There is an automatic clash. It is much easier for Muslims to practice their religion in their own countries. It is fine to bring over moderate numbers of immigrants if they wish to follow the culture and adapt to the country they have chosen. Since it is a choice to come over, it is illogical to complain about the state of that country. It would have to be hurrendous and there is always the choice to go home available. The problem here isn't Europeans, it is the alienation of immigrants by their own attitudes and choices, which they choose to blame Europeans for. Islamic immigration and multiculturalism should never have been forced on Europe’s native population. There is an automatic clash. It is much easier for Muslims to practice their religion in their own countries. It is fine to bring over moderate numbers of immigrants if they wish to follow the culture and adapt to the country they have chosen. Since it is a choice to come over, it is illogical to complain about the state of that country. It would have to be hurrendous and there is always the choice to go home available. The problem here isn’t Europeans, it is the alienation of immigrants by their own attitudes and choices, which they choose to blame Europeans for.

]]> By: Henrik Ræder Clausen http://pjmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30664 Henrik Ræder Clausen Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:52:27 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30664 "Read Liberal Fascism." Wolf, I second that unconditional endorsement. As Daniel Pipes said: "It changed the way I understand politics". Same for me, by a mile. A lot of things makes much more sense now, and I'm able to point out totalitarian intiatives at a miles' distance. An extremely worthwhile book. But bad for Hillary :) “Read Liberal Fascism.”

Wolf, I second that unconditional endorsement. As Daniel Pipes said: “It changed the way I understand politics”.

Same for me, by a mile. A lot of things makes much more sense now, and I’m able to point out totalitarian intiatives at a miles’ distance.

An extremely worthwhile book. But bad for Hillary :)

]]> By: Henrik Ræder Clausen http://pjmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30660 Henrik Ræder Clausen Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:31:16 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30660 This is, by any measure, one of the worst articles on European politics I've ever read. I've written an 8 page reponse to it, pointing out the libellious nature of the logic, assertions and comparisons presented here, seen from a European perspective. We are a lot of Europeans that are pretty pissed off by the Nazi analogies and Young Turks (CUPS) analogies here. Anyone's welcome to drop me an email, and I'll return it. In particular, I encourage John Matthies to get in touch with me over this piece. This is, by any measure, one of the worst articles on European politics I’ve ever read. I’ve written an 8 page reponse to it, pointing out the libellious nature of the logic, assertions and comparisons presented here, seen from a European perspective. We are a lot of Europeans that are pretty pissed off by the Nazi analogies and Young Turks (CUPS) analogies here.

Anyone’s welcome to drop me an email, and I’ll return it. In particular, I encourage John Matthies to get in touch with me over this piece.

]]> By: rvastar http://pjmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30646 rvastar Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:39:10 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30646 <i>Has anyone considered that these are precisely the fears and sentiments that have driven the resurgence of the Right Wing in the Italian general election? </i> Who knows? Could be. But then again, the Italians change governments almost as frequently as the US news media change the excuses they use to explain away Obama's latest gaffe. <i>In particular, the near eradication of the Communist party?</i> ♫ Not a single seat, I hear, Sounds music to my ear ♫ Has anyone considered that these are precisely the fears and sentiments that have driven the resurgence of the Right Wing in the Italian general election?

Who knows? Could be.

But then again, the Italians change governments almost as frequently as the US news media change the excuses they use to explain away Obama’s latest gaffe.

In particular, the near eradication of the Communist party?

♫ Not a single seat, I hear,
Sounds music to my ear ♫

]]> By: DWMF http://pjmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30606 DWMF Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:32:12 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30606 Good article. Has anyone considered that these are precisely the fears and sentiments that have driven the resurgence of the Right Wing in the Italian general election? In particular, the near eradication of the Communist party? Good article. Has anyone considered that these are precisely the fears and sentiments that have driven the resurgence of the Right Wing in the Italian general election? In particular, the near eradication of the Communist party?

]]> By: David http://pjmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30487 David Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:52:07 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30487 R John Matthies. I think you are right, with the arrival of Islam and its push into everyday life and the nation destroying EU that wants to belittle all of the past acheivements of European countries so that it can arrise from their ashes, a new breed of politician is at hand, Wilders is one of them, they are difficult for the established politicians to deal with because they are close to what people think and over use of the racist insult has weakened it to such a degree that as soon as some one uses teh racist word, we laugh... I am a Brit and I have seen the UK having got its pride back lose it again in 10 years of Labour. I see signs of a awakening, but I am not sure it is enough. One thing is for sure, for Europe to shake off Islam we will need to see the end of the EU first... R John Matthies. I think you are right, with the arrival of Islam and its push into everyday life and the nation destroying EU that wants to belittle all of the past acheivements of European countries so that it can arrise from their ashes, a new breed of politician is at hand, Wilders is one of them, they are difficult for the established politicians to deal with because they are close to what people think and over use of the racist insult has weakened it to such a degree that as soon as some one uses teh racist word, we laugh…

I am a Brit and I have seen the UK having got its pride back lose it again in 10 years of Labour. I see signs of a awakening, but I am not sure it is enough. One thing is for sure, for Europe to shake off Islam we will need to see the end of the EU first…

]]> By: rvastar http://pjmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30456 rvastar Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:25:16 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30456 <i>Good post rvastar ! As a Brit, I hope you are right and there is hope after all.</i> Don't worry, Anna...you Brits are made of stern stuff. Even though alot of you have forgotten that fact for a while, you'll remember it again when you really need to. Keep the faith! Good post rvastar ! As a Brit, I hope you are right and there is hope after all.

Don’t worry, Anna…you Brits are made of stern stuff. Even though alot of you have forgotten that fact for a while, you’ll remember it again when you really need to.

Keep the faith!

]]> By: Anna http://pjmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30452 Anna Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:48:14 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30452 Good post rvastar ! As a Brit, I hope you are right and there is hope after all. Hotpatch6..The US did not win the war single handed and were loathe to help until pearl harbour by the way- we could not have defeated Hitler without you, but also not without the Russians which I am sure you must be aware of. No Repayment? Sorry, thats really funny. if only you knew ! Good post rvastar ! As a Brit, I hope you are right and there is hope after all.
Hotpatch6..The US did not win the war single handed and were loathe to help until pearl harbour by the way- we could not have defeated Hitler without you, but also not without the Russians which I am sure you must be aware of.
No Repayment? Sorry, thats really funny. if only you knew !

]]> By: rvastar http://pjmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30411 rvastar Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:40:12 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/islam-and-the-evolution-of-europe%e2%80%99s-far-right/#comment-30411 <i>Europe WILL become an Islamic entity simply because we cannot afford to keep it otherwise.</i> Nah, that won't happen. To be sure, there will be some rough patches along the way, but in the end, the current multi-culti silliness you see infecting Europe will be discarded when the cold-hard reality sets in that they have allowed the Leftists <i>way too much</i> leeway in setting the cultural tone since the end of WW2. Prior to WW1 and WW2, Europe exhibited the standard racial, cultural, and nationalist thinking that all of humanity had exhibited throughout history. The utter devastation unleased by the Great Wars shook the European psyche to its foundations and scared the West into giving the opposite a try - namely, the cultural nihilism of the Left. But mark my words: the reason Westerners - especially Europeans - are so loathe to wake from the slumber of the past 60 years has very little to do with high-minded Leftist BS about multi-culti and "understanding"...and has <i>everything</i> to do with simply wanting to "let the good times roll!"...to continue enjoying the nice little "holiday from history" that we've enjoyed. But the Islamists will overreach because they can't help themselves - their incessant violence...their incessant threats of violence will eventually serve to thaw Western identity out of its deep freeze and people will realize that a choice has to made: deal with the problem or die as a civilization. And trust me: they'll decide to deal it...in the form of a <b>big swing towards the political Right. Some Islamists skulls will get cracked as the Europeans reassert control over their own countries, but then, seeing that the pity party is over, the vast majority of their Muslims will quiet down and fall in line. You'll see alot of the multi-culti silliness currently infecting the West start to disappear, and as it does so, <i>honest</i> dialogue can return as people will start losing their fear of being attacked with the Left's favorite thumbscrews of "Racist!", "Sexist!", "Christian!". And when that happens, the scales will <i>finally</i> start to fall from their eyes and the Western Revival can begin. Europe WILL become an Islamic entity simply because we cannot afford to keep it otherwise.

Nah, that won’t happen. To be sure, there will be some rough patches along the way, but in the end, the current multi-culti silliness you see infecting Europe will be discarded when the cold-hard reality sets in that they have allowed the Leftists way too much leeway in setting the cultural tone since the end of WW2.

Prior to WW1 and WW2, Europe exhibited the standard racial, cultural, and nationalist thinking that all of humanity had exhibited throughout history. The utter devastation unleased by the Great Wars shook the European psyche to its foundations and scared the West into giving the opposite a try – namely, the cultural nihilism of the Left.

But mark my words: the reason Westerners – especially Europeans – are so loathe to wake from the slumber of the past 60 years has very little to do with high-minded Leftist BS about multi-culti and “understanding”…and has everything to do with simply wanting to “let the good times roll!”…to continue enjoying the nice little “holiday from history” that we’ve enjoyed.

But the Islamists will overreach because they can’t help themselves – their incessant violence…their incessant threats of violence will eventually serve to thaw Western identity out of its deep freeze and people will realize that a choice has to made: deal with the problem or die as a civilization. And trust me: they’ll decide to deal it…in the form of a big swing towards the political Right. Some Islamists skulls will get cracked as the Europeans reassert control over their own countries, but then, seeing that the pity party is over, the vast majority of their Muslims will quiet down and fall in line.

You’ll see alot of the multi-culti silliness currently infecting the West start to disappear, and as it does so, honest dialogue can return as people will start losing their fear of being attacked with the Left’s favorite thumbscrews of “Racist!”, “Sexist!”, “Christian!”. And when that happens, the scales will finally start to fall from their eyes and the Western Revival can begin.

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